The Universal Carrier / Bren Gun Carrier
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- An overview of the Universal Carrier featuring some movies and video games where it turns up.
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Movies/Video Games Featured:
The Longest Day 1962
20 Million Miles to earth 1957
World Gone Wild 1987
A Bridge Too Far 1977
Company of Heroes 2
The Best of Enemies 1961
Post Scriptum
Battlefield V
#ww2 #army #guns
Farmers in NZ sometimes bought surplus carriers after the war. Very useful for carrying fence posts over rough country. 🙂
my family had a bren gun carrier for the farm
I've heard stories of ANZAC Day Bren carrier races back in the day.
Same in Canada. You would regularly see them for sale at heavy equipment auctions up until the 80, but I haven't seen one in decades.
Yep, down Dunedin way, my father went hunting with a Farmer who used a Bren Carrier - he also had a BREN for it as well. I was told of a story that while out hunting the BREN opened up on a group of Fallow deer while on the move. Because of the suspension, the carrier took a sudden dip then lurched and the BREN shot up the internals. I think they gave up hunting the rest of the day, preferring a cool beer.
Aussies got all the grants and lees left behind and took the turrets of and used them as tractors
My dad was in the home guard and thought highly of them better than a roller coaster.
Why didn't the yanks use them? Kind regards Roy Bennett from Wollongong
4:24 historically accurate use of the universal carrier, which could also function as a paratrooping vehicle when needed. Which also secondarily functions as a one use artillery
My father had one of the army surplus he cut of all excess armer and used it in the bush to snig logs int the dump to become railway sleepers it was hand for pushing trees over up to 8 to 10 inches it would ride up the tree and the weight would cause them to fall
1:27 Well, we’ll soon see them again on the battlefield once Russia runs out of T-55 and T-34 …
A bit late but keep up the good content johnny :)
Very interesting
A Canadian Veteran told about using the Wasp version to attack German columns.
I’ve driven a Bren carrier. It can be squirrelly, but it is fun to drive…In peacetime
What is a wasp variant? And how effective was it?
@@okobongdinko Flamethrower version. It was devastating when used correctly and the fates smiled upon them
@@Blitz9H ah right, sounds deadly
@@okobongdinko Definitely. He said one of his friends was attacking a German column and the engine cut out on his Bren gun carrier. The Germans “shot them like fish in a barrel”
@@Blitz9H that sounds awful, the carrier didn't offer much protection so they didn't have much of a chance but it just sounds awful
The clip at the beginning from Longest Day was my favorite scene in the entire movie I’m so happy you included it
It was the inspiration for the whole video lol
That was Kenneth More, as Captain Colin Maud. He also played Captain Shepard on the classic movie Sink the Bismarck.😮. (Also in Sink the Bismarck was the extraordinarily lovely Dana Wynter. 😊)
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Denis Healey...ex Chancellor of the exchequer, was a beach master at Anzio...
“Give it a good BASH!!” I often say it myself. TLD is a favorite movie in our house. Many a line has made it into our daily vernacular
In this scene we saw James Bond as a Army corporal before he joined the Royal Navy as an intelligent officer for the MI6. 😆
The Universal Carrier is an adorable little machine. She may be small, but she's fierce.
CV/33: "Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!"
i've seen one up close before, it's kinda cute
@@thekhoifish0146very cute
@@ThatWelshGuy. indeed
@@thekhoifish0146 where did you see it?
I saw one at bovington
I'm sure the CV/33 would still manage to loose.
Wait my country built tanks wow I thought we would've duct taped metal to horses 😂...cheers Johnny have an excellent day
Have mum strap the bathtub to the tractor
If you're from New Zealand, mate, the Bob Semple tank was considerably worse than metal duct taped to horses. It basically was a metal bathtub strapped to a Caterpillar tractor. 🤣🤣🤣🫣
@@User_Un_Friendly hahaha now that's a real weapon of mass destruction
@@User_Un_Friendly ok but:
* japan never invaded new zealand
* no bob semple tanks were ever lost
* easily produced
👍
Thumbs up from Alabama
2:23 A friend just shared me your video. I was surprised to see a almost 8 year old video of mine here :D
I#ve watched a few of videos in the past but I think this is the first time I left a comment.
Glad you popped in! Thanks for the clip. Hope you didn't mind 👍🙏
Just an additional fact: The Universal Carrier suspension (also developed from the Carden Loyd tankette) was so sucessful, that the Germans took it literally, though it was the American produced carrier, and apply it to their trucks replacing the rear wheels as a measure to overcome the rasputitsa on the Eastern Front. They called it the Maultier, meaning mule.
Sorry, but the tracked part of the Maultier had nothing to do with the UC, it was literally the track assembly from Pz-Is mounted on trucks.
As in, not copied but taken directly from actual Pz-Is.
Also, heavier Maultiers instead used the suspension parts from Pz-IIs instead.
@@DIREWOLFx75 There are various variants of the Maultier - and yes, one of them used the carrier Tracks. One of such vehicles is on display at the Technik Museum Sinsheim/ Germany
A step up from this was the Canadian developed Kangaroo, a Sherman without the turret and it's basket, but with ladder rungs welded to sides for quick ingress/egress. Arguably the first APC able to carry a number of troops in relative safety from most attacks other than from above.
Schneider-Brillié model 1909 was the first ever apc.
My great grandfather, Edward Rotan helped develop some of the prototype vehicles for the universal carrier in the old Somerville mass ford plant
As a side note they were fantastic during the pacific war in which being very small and very light allowed the Australians to outflank or bypass most areas which were impassable for the Japanese as well as being a great way of getting around if not to and from places in which tires or wheeled vehicles would typically get stuck or bog down and some versions of the UC were amphibious which meant that things like river crossings wasn’t that big of an issue considering that the three alternatives were to build a bridge which took time and resources, look for an alternative route or simply swim across a crocodile infested river, vs driving along in a UC, and again they really are underrated, yes it was weakly armored and it wasn’t the most comfortable thing to be bouncing around in and the thing was very exposed but apart from that, it was just there and it just did it’s job.
Hey, you forgot these: ...,,,:!
@@waynebimmel6784 ?
@@hadesdogs4366 nice comment but some punctuation would have been helpful
@@waynebimmel6784 NEVER
I read it just fine, hades.
Great roundup on the history and characteristics of the Universal carrier. Two extra things worth noting, 1) among the weapons fitted was a formidable flamethrower versions called the Wasp, much feared by Germans in defensive positions in Belgium and the Netherlands in 1944-45. 2) The universal carrier appears in an amusing 1942 film called "If Day" depicting an imagined German occupation of Winnipeg. Universal carriers stand in for German armour: th-cam.com/video/8scLEt70yIE/w-d-xo.html
We had an old Bren Carrier on the playground at my junior school, It came from a local RAF airfield after the war. The engine and various bits and pieces had been removed but we had hours of fun playing war games. I do believe it was sold by the school in the mid-70s to a collector.
I could see this in the Ukraine, ferrying supplies to the front, x-country
Wow, i didn't know NZ (my home country) made these thing!
fun fact: the NZ designed, but never made Schofield Tank did also use the suspension from a Universal Carrier.
Although a first prototype design that performed badly in trials was made along with a improved one, unfortunately the whole tank never saw the light of day again and was stored away, then scrapped as the project was advised to stop.
I have also seen this military vehicle in "The one that got away" (1957) and "Operation Dunkirk" (2017) . My grandpa used to call this thing rocking horses in the second world war.
If given the choice between a UC and a Jeep, I think I would take a UC, unless were were looking at long cross country travel.
Interesting Fact:
The Germans and the Italians captured dozens of Universal Carriers and really liked the qualities of the vehicle. The Germans mounted several types of anti-tank guns and even Panzerschrecks! The Italians tried to copy the Universal Carrier but lost the competition to the L 40 Cingoletta (based on the Semovente L 40 da 47/32 tank destroyer).
Krag Jorgensen?
No it's the Universal Carrier, colloquially known as "Bren Carrier"
One thing that was noted in an article for a war game. The Carrier section was Organic at Battalion level in a British Infantry division. Since Tanks and TD's were only attached on an "as needed" basis (unlike an American Division, which post-Normandy had about 100 tanks and TDs (60/40 mix) more-or-less organic to the division). The carriers were the one trump card a battalion commander could depend on having "on call" whether to scout, haul ammo or wounded, or cover a retreat. Occasionally they would haul troops (riding on the sides), if you needed to get a company somewhere quickly, though they really weren't APCs.
Ive been fortunate enough to get an up close and personal look at an australian bren gun carrier, such a cool and neat little vehicle.
Well done. I would have recommended the differences between the Loyd Carrier and the Universal Carrier.
I meant commenting on the differences between the Loyd Carrier and the Universal Carrier.
4:32 didn’t mention that they could fly
I KNEW you were going to start this one with "The Longest Day."
How could you pick anything else?
Love your stuff, this vid looks great!
Equally good for fighting the Axis and monsters from outer space!
Honestly the true work horse of the British army and by British army that includes everyone such as the Indians, Africans, Australians ect where the two biggest and heaviest vehicles at the time doing most of the work loads was the Bedford truck and the universal carrier, be it used as a reconnaissance vehicle, a mortar platform, a mobile flame thrower, troop transport, a command or communications vehicle with added radio equipment, an ambulance, mobile artillery, even a light tank, anything and everything the British needed or wanted was through the universal carrier, add a machine gun to the front and you’ve got a mobile pillbox, add a few Besa machine guns to a rotating mount and a Bren gun on the front and you’ve got an anti infantry fighting vehicle and again, the UC truly is the unsung hero which tends to be over shadowed by its much larger counterparts like the tigers, Sherman’s and t34’s and funnily enough despite britian fight the war from start to finish, we don’t really hear much about the British during ww2 outside of a few small but major events but they tend to be forgotten especially on the big screen and the last British war film was 1917, other than that the British and again British includes colonial forces as well tend to be forgotten about despite contributing the most during the war.
And Canada had nothing to do in WW2 they used us for shock troupes they put us in first.The Germans feared the Canadians and Hitler respect us .
One of the fascinating things about the Universal Carrier is just how beloved it was. Many tankettes and field tractors either didn't leave enough of an impact to be memorable, or were poorly received by those who used them. The carrier on the other hand, despite being known for being finicky to operate, became quite popular among Allied forces who used it and would continue to be exported for both military and civilian use long after the war.
"Give it a good bash!" 😂
Quaint, too lightly armored and not much better than a 4-wheel drive truck.
I spent a lot of time on Sable Island off the coast of Nova Scotia. On the island was a rusted out old shell of a Bren Gun Carrier. I asked around and found out that it was purchased through Crown Assets in the 1950s, brought to the island and became the first motorized vehicle there. It was used for everything from hauling groceries to building materials to injured people. Where it rests today is where it broke down. They stripped it of anything useful and repurposed it all. The transmission was shot, but the engine was still ok, so it was welded to the shaft of a generator. This provided electricity to the staff buildings for years until replaced with a diesel one. Decades of salt air has taken its toll on the frame, but it’s still recognizable as a Bren Gun Carrier.
Red Orchestra - Ostfront is the only game I can think of where you could use a land-leased Universal Carrier armed with a DT machine gun.
Forgotten Hope 2 has lend leased UCs even armed with DTs as well.
thanks for showing how the steering worked....I have always wondered....
A lightly armoured fully tracked jeep, what's not to like (other than the rocking motion when moving). The Germans adopted the track system for the SdKfz.3 Maultier half track truck (although that was closer to the Dragon artillery tractor, a forerunner of the Universal, with 4 road wheels).
My father (Royal Hamilton Light Infantry, went to England in 1940, came home in 1946 via Caen, Belgium and Holland) disliked them as they had, he said, a tendency to flip.
I like to think that the German Wiesel is the spiritual sucsessor to the bren carrier. Looks like they use same suspension too.
I feel like you could buy a dozen of these and use them as go karts
4:23 ah yes the British strategy of no clipping and flinging their vehicle to paradrop their infantrymen
it's vehicles like this and the deuce and a half that won the war for the allies
Love all those goofy moments of game bugs in the video LMAO
Goofy clips are the heart and soul of the channel!
A favorit for australian farmers.after ww2.
I'm still waiting for the Jeep.
A friend of mine's dad in high school had one in Fawnskin near Big Bear Lake. Used it do drive around the back roads in winter.
0:00 till 0:10 heard it first when i was just a we little boy. still use it today
Where in the heck did you manage to find a clip of The Best of Enemies with the english dub? I wanna see that movie in english too!
That thing belongs to every war game, just like the "VW Kübelwagen" of Germany or the US' "Willy's Jeep" which appears in the video, too :)
You’re legendary for using that legendary scene from The Longest Day as the intro!
That "Praying Mantis" prototype looks like something out of Star Wars haha.
I think a new variant as drone would be very efective !
I've driven this thing in BF5. Great for zipping to an objective quickly ...if you can manage to not flip it over
Be me an Australian with an LS V8 in my shed. Learns these were built in Australia. Manically uses my 3 beer soaked braincells.
30mph? Half of Africa can outrun the durn thing. But we love ‘er.
Its British version of Jeep
Thanks for the reminder, I still laugh at the “floating Shermans” in A Bridge Too Far.”
You didn’t talk about the wasp variant
My grandad used these and loved them in Korea and Malaya (he's still alive)
Company of Heroes 2 is a really cinematic game but you always use the most boring nonsensical gameplay footage, weird.
Another great video! A video on the katyusha artillery piece would be cool@
What the Americans used - was the M3 Halftrack.
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It’s honestly a simple yet rugged little vehicle being both highly mobile and to some extent even amphibious and personally I’d choose a universal carrier over a jeep any day
Give It a 57mm and you got youself a tier 3 british TD.
The Jeep was a little more useful as a post war surplus vehicle. I’m so old I remember my father had one when I was a little kid. He welded an old pickup truck cab to it to make it a four season vehicle in Colorado.
That sounds more "4 seasons" for the Front Range than the mountains. I've spent nights that were -30° up there.
good show!, was the wasp based on a bren carrier?, also I think some were armed with vickers machine guns and some with 2 pounder cannons, also many were shipped to the soviets.
Can you start listing torque figures with the vehicle drivetrains? That is the far more important number than horsepower when talking about pretty much any military vehicle.
I love it, but I'm sad that the wasp flamethrower wasn't mentioned.
Or the British tank equipped with a flamethrower. 😮
@@User_Un_Friendly a Churchill variant ,I think....perhaps one General Hobart,s funnies..?...
That clip is in bfv in Australia I recognise some of those names hahaha😅
My Farther was a Bren gunner on a carrier, 1st Welsh Gaurds WWII
They are surprisingly quiet and zippy, you don't realise just how fast they are. They were never to be used as armoured vehicles, this point had to be explained to more than one officer who sent them into combat thinking they were like mini tanks.
On a more sober note, my neighbour, who was a desert war veteran (artilleryman), told a tale of 'defective' men being taught how to drive them. The men were of below a certain level of intelligence.
After they were taught and got used to the carriers, the vehicles would be loaded up with sandbags and sent into minefields to clear them.
The impression I got was this not common army practice, the men and vehicles were saved for a major attack.
Before anyone gets their knickers in a twist saying "But but that's not on any official records!" or "But but that is a waste of vehicles!" or "But but Why didn't you take photographs or video it on your phone!" Remember:
1) This was told to me by a WW2 veteran of the desert war. I *personally* did not witness it, I was not even born in WW2.
2) Do you think anyone, even then, would have written that down?
3) It was considered better to risk and use up a single man and his machine rather than a tank with crew or the lives of the sappers etc who would have to carefully clear a path under fire.
4) The man may survive and the vehicle stood a chance of being repaired.
5) Photos may exist of the men, my neighbour showed me a picture of a group of men with their carriers (No I don't have it, its was 40+ years ago)
6) Mobile phones hadn't been invented then, no I can't go back in time to take pictures (You would be surprised how often someone suggests something along those lines)
7) You don't have to believe me, it's not going to affect your life or those of you around you. If you think I'm full of crock, just nod to yourself and have a nice weekend.
I love this tank since i was a kid, i want it in warthunder, the one with a boys rifle, or AA variant, or maybe both.
The Septics wouldn't touch these on principal .
With lovely V8 Flathead engine great on the M25 .
My father loved his carrier , he served in the KSLI and held the unauthorised record for the circuit around Shrewsbury Town back in the 1950,s cheer
My Dad used to tell me they'd whack the governor with a hammer and used the extra power to jump ditches and have a bit of fun in training in England. 😆
That's how you get a busted engine working.
These things never worked well for me in battlefield V
the tracked pimp-mobile
If I see someone get idea & attach flamethrower on this carrier...
I call it *mobile warcrime*
*cough* Wasp *cough*
I wonder if there was ever a variant that's a tankette..
Just a brilliant piece of kit.
I watched A Bridge Too Far
Nice use of historical and movie footage.
I fear that when you will talk about the jagdpanzer IV, you will no longer talk about appearances, but rather it's history, although there is not many movies featuring it.
Yes
Geez buddy say universal carrier one more time
The most produced armoured vechicle of the world war 2
A shipment of Bren Gun Carriers meant for the defense of Hong Kong was stuck in the Port of Manila and was commandsered by Fil American forces defending Bataan
Willy Jeep and Kubeleagen in the movies?
The SAS in France post D Day wreaked havoc, with heavy machine guns....try anything written by Damien Lewis...
PS...extensively used on Jeeps...
My grandfather's dad was a bren gun carrier driver when he was in Burama fighting the Japanese. I sadly didn't get to meet him as he died in the early 80s about 10 years before i was born
Lucas?
Ha ha ha
Charge of the Bren carriers
Britans jeep prob more capable also?
The "Japanese tank" in "The Fighting Seabees" is an ex-Canadian Army carrier with a dummy superstructure.
Surprised you didn’t talk about the British 2 pounder or flamethrower variants.
The Americans had the Jeep, the Germans the Kettenkrad, we had the Carrier.
If I had to pick one it would be the Kettenkrad, but this looks fun to own too. Heck, so does a WWII Jeep or a Kubelwagon for that matter.
@@gratefulguy4130 Kubelwagen is 2 wheel drive so the jeep is probably best option. The Jeep and Kubelwagen are not directly comparable with the UC in any case.
It looks like fun to operate. Love to ride in one someday.
I'm kind of wondering when you're going to cover the mat 49 SMG, that was used by the French paratroopers. Because I have seen that you have put them on your other channel, of the French paratroopers in the indo-china war. And knowing one thing that type of subject very little talk about. If you need any help with the video of that let me know, because this does need to be remembered in history.
Forgotten weapons has a good video on it.
Cool little thing in a cool little vid'!
1:25 thought he was vaping 😂