ahhhh no.... Japan attacked the US with Zero's, Kates, and other monoplanes. Germany had Stuka's, ME-109's, the US had lots of P-40 Warhawks to start no clue where you get your info
Interesting history, thanks for the video and commentary! It blew my mind reading his book, that Galland started out as a dive bomber pilot flying bi-planes in Spain and Poland! Gallad started the war with bi-planes and ended it on the last day with jets.
Galland did a dodgy, one of many dodgies in his career after figuring out that open air cockpits sucked got a doctors note saying he was too delicate for open air cockpits. He had already dodged out of being an elite (bombers) by failing multi engine conversion course so he had to by default go to fighters... which is what he wanted in the first place.
The primary virtues of the Hs-123 were difficult to utilize because production ended so soon. Being simple to build and maintain. Being able to provide air cover in the coldest weather. Being able to operate from air fields close to the frontlines. None could be utilized more than marginally because so few were built.
Another excellent presentation, sir. I commend you. The 123 teaches us some lessons. Keep high performance fighters away from your ground attack planes, stats don't always equate to effectiveness, if speed isnt top priority biplanes did OK by themselves in WWII, and dependable planes with experienced pilots can eventually find a use regardless of performance. The first point has a caveat. Other than being surprised i would be willing to bet the 123 was actually more survivable than the Stuka or Il-2. It, like the Swordfish, was highly maneuverable and well behaved and, lets face it, none of these planes is outrunning anyone so you might as well take your chances trying to make the fighter pilot make a fatal mistake. It happened a lot and to some of the greatest aces ever. I also just have a hunch that, if the 123 was a little bigger and had a rear gunner with power to carry him, it would have outlasted the Ju-87 much like the Swordfish outlasted the Albacore but we'll never know. Cheers!
considering pilots had good clothes and warm machine parts in front of them, probably it wasn't too bad. At least compared to folks who froze in trenches
My favourite 2nd WW biplanes? The Gloster Gladiator/Sea Gladiator (fully enclosed cockpit, radio, and possibly oxygen bottles too. The first two are simply vital, and the last feature is a must-have for nearly all military planes, especially combat planes). And the Fiat CR-42, for its Italian origins and its use by the Belgian Air Force.
The importance of phycological warfare is underestimated. The 123 rattling was probably thought to be a massive number of mgs on the attackers. Imagine the stories from solders saying they had seen the attacker had at least 10 mgs. The scary noise of the Stuka diving was due to an air driven siren. That noise is still the sound put in movies for planes in a power dive.
As a Brit, I should say that the best WWII biplane was the Gloster Gladiator... but it wasn't, because the Fiat CR.42 was. Neither was a match for the monoplanes that came into production just a few short years after, but they were the best of the last biplanes.
Americans and British also never had large numbers of dedicated ground attack aircraft. They used the P-38, P-47, Hurricane II, Typhoon and Tempest. The 190 was an excellent ground attack plane.
By the middle of 1943 the allies had air superiority throughout Europe. Barbarossa needed Re-up expediency to pull off but the Luftwaffe lost it's cargo capability in the Mediterranean.
We had planes in Afghanistan specifically the EMB 314 Super Tucano which were no doubt inspired by this plane , the fact that these soldiered on clear into 1944 is a testament to their ruggedness and more importantly their simplicity of design. With a few upgrades we could have used these in today's close support roles. Excellent video Thank You !!
Nonsense, the EMB 314 / A-29 Super Tucano is an evolution of the British Short Tucano basic trainer and was built by Brazil as a COIN platform. COIN from Cuban over Vietnam to Iraq saw countless improvements, look up the OV-10 Bronco and the development of targeting pods with the Martin B-57G Tropic Moon III. Neither the A-10 nor the Super Tucano are inspired by anything German, and to claim so is sheer misguided Wehraboo nostalgia and Reformer historical revisionism. Greetings from Germany.
@@FirstDagger you are correct - there were no ground attack variants in service in the Luftwaffe during WW2 certainly not the HS123 , hello from Anhalt , Bernburg. BTW boy genius the builders of the A-10 hired Hans Ulrich Rudel as a consultant. Get off your self righteous virtue signalling pompous ass - don't always assume that you can bluff your way past the ignorance of you audience. Who is Bazil?
@@antonfarquar8799 ; "BTW boy genius the builders of the A-10 hired Hans Ulrich Rudel as a consultant" Pft you really believe this Reformer non-sense? Buddy you are way behind the times, you literally don't understand anything about combat aviation if you think this non-sense is true, and don't get me started on your other Freudian comments, cannot fathom that somebody has valid info you might not have or that invalidates yours eh? You should look up the Reformers and how their misguided perspective on combat has muddled the narrative especially in regards to the development of the A-10, F-15, F-16. And again look up US COIN aircraft, you will find that guided weapons and targeting equipment are much more important that anything else, especially the lessons from Vietnam. Thanks for correcting my mistake though, should have read "Brazil".
@@FirstDagger sorry to butt into this discussion however, Farquar is correct according to an article published by the Daily Beast Rudel did consult on the A-10 project. "Engineer Pierre Sprey, a former Pentagon procurement official who helped design the A-10, confirmed to The Daily Beast that none other than legendary Luftwaffe Colonel Hans-Ulrich Rudel was consulted to develop the Warthog." “While we were readying the airplane and gun for full scale production, the 30mm gun program manager, Col. Robert Dilger, invited Rudel to lead a symposium in DC attended by several hundred engineers, analysts, tacticians and intel types on all aspects of CAS [close air support] operations in combat,” Sprey told the Daily Beast. “For lots of them it was eye-opening. I translated for Rudel who spoke very little English.” I suspect that Rudel may have known a thing or two about combat aviation that you Dagger may not .
@@myronfrobisher ; Pierre Sprey literally is a Reformer, he did none of the things he claimed credit for. The entire story about the A-10s creation they proclaim is fabricated.
Thanks for this detailed look at one of the more unlikely success stories in WWII aviation. I often think that the Hs 123, had it been produced in larger numbers, could have been the ground attack equivalent of the Fokker D.XXI - that you have previously covered - for the Finns, variously in the Winter and Continuation Wars, as a superficially obsolete type with a fixed undercarriage.
Finnish airforce use Blackburn Ribons and Fokker C.X and Closter Cladiators almost entire WW II. Ribons flew some of most daring rescue and resupply mission for long range patrols but also bomming missions agaist soviets. Fokker was used as main divebomber and photorecon plane with cameras developed our famous artillery general Nenonen and Gladiators are used as recon plane.
A prime example of K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid tough, simple and easily maintained. The mid 20's to the late 40's is such an interesting time for aircraft
At the very start I thought the video was about the Heinkel 51, another biplane that the Legion Condor used at Spain. Although He-51 was designed as a fighter, in Spain their pilots didn't like it. It was too slow for the Soviet I-16 and not so manoeuverable as the I-15. So, Sperrle decided to use the He-51 in the same way the HS-123 was used at Spain, to straffe and bomb enemy positions. Soon it was replaced by the first production Messerschmidt 109 B's, which could counter the fast I-16. But I don't remember if the Me-109 B could chase the SB-2 Katiusha, a Soviet bomber so fast that in Spain flew without scort for some time.
Favourite WW2 biplane would probably be the Henschel 123, but I also like the Fiat CR 42 (which was not as handsome as his predecessor the Fiat CR 32). the British Hawker Fury was indeed a beautiful airplane, and the Bristol Bulldog and the Gloster Gladiator were not disgusting. The Fairey Swordfish was also quite good looking.
Reminds me of the US currently looking into a slow stable turboprop like the old OV10 Bronco for ground attack in modern conflicts where air supremacy is total and AA defense minimal.
Thanks for a great video featuring the HS 123, I appreciate that you cover not just the Bf 109, Spitfire and Mustang and instead cover a mix of wellknown planes and planes not getting a lot of cover on youtube and in books. Can´t wait for a video covering French bombers of ww2 like the Amiot 143, Bloch MB 200/210, Farman F220 and Potez 540. Keep up the great work.
Your videos are brilliant. I subscribed halfway through this video an instanstly searched for more. Truly great content I guarentee this channel will grow at a rapid rate. Best of luck to you from Ireland
Back in the mid-late 1990's, I managed to pick-up a 1/48th scale Esci kit of the Henschel Hs.123. Bought it off some old-boy who was giving up modelling & by late 90's was a rare kit back then. Am wondering "if" that kit ever got re-released (?), as I also have a 'newer' (but still old), Fiat Cr.42 It all started for me, with the older (1/72) AIRFIX kit with the old "bag & staples" (white plastic !) Utterly SUPERB = Roy Cross artwork, on the old 'Paper' folded instruction sheet header..... Does ANYONE here know of an Hs.123 kit (latterday), available in 1/48th scale please ? ( 1/48th, not 1/72 )
The 123 was an unsung hero of the Luftwaffe. It was always overshadowed by the more modern Ju-87 and later Fw-190 _Jabos._ I rate it as _the_ most under appreciated aircraft from WWII. Anyone who wants to truly understand how Close Air Support works should look at the way the 123 was operated. Yes they lost a lot but that is the nature of the mission.
Faith, Hope, and Charity? I grew up reading about them. (1960's in the UK). You are right, they don't seem to be mentioned much by the usual sites here on TH-cam. As I got older, I started to realise that there was a lot of propaganda going on - Malta had Spitfires! (eventually). However, it is definitely a tale worth telling. I wonder if Mark Felton has covered it? Probably! ;-)
Great video. But I have to disagree with your comment about the Hs 129. At least Martin Pegg gives him a very good description in his book 'Hs129 Panzerjäger' Regards Emilio
I'm actually very curious what the legacy of the Hs-123 would be if it had stayed in production through WWII. I suspect production would have shifted from Ju-87s to Hs-123s as the war progressed. The poor power output could have been fixed with methanol injection. I wish a direct comparison could be more thoroughly analyzed.
The mission was subtly different. And the subtlety was not appreciated until the aircraft went out of production. The Stuka was a bit of a one trick pony by comparison with the 123. Once the dive was done it was time to go home. The 123, with its lower speed and better maeuvrability, could hang around and harry enemy troop formations. It's not the the Stuka couldn't do it: it's just that it couldn't do it as well. Close Air Support is arguably the _least_ well understood mission of all.
@@kittyhawk9707 still could've been made til at least 39..... Kinda like how the Grumman duck came back out of retirement since it's replacement actually sucked. Engine problems galore.
@@dillonpierce7869 true ..bit like the Albacore and the Swordfish ... You mean the SO2 Seagull replacement .. The SO3 Seamew ..yeah that sucked so they had to bring the Seagull back into service ..
@@kittyhawk9707 except I actually love the seamew as well it's just adorable looking. 😂. P40 comes to mind as well except it was produced the whole war but the higher ups in the govt didn't really want them after mid 43 or so.
@@dillonpierce7869 Except the P40 was technically obsolete as a fighter early 42 ..but went on as a ground attacker ( even though it could still hold it's own against other fighters ).. bit different .. We are talking .. Say P26 Peashooter.. can you imagine keeping that in production , when more modern aircraft for the time ie the P40 where being developed. Why waste resources .. it would have been massacred .. Germany in full swing in 1939 with Stuka production .. so lots of Hs123 simply where not needed , as the Stuka was far more suited to role then the Hs123 was.
Didn’t the Germans commandeer some Italian Fiat CR-42 Falco biplane fighters, to be used as night raiders late in the war? If I’m not mistaken, I think they used some of those to attack partisans in Yugoslavia.
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WWII began with bi-planes and ended with jets. Amazing!
Jets flew in 1939 and 1941...
@@loveofmangos001 None of them were anything but prototypes.
Began with tiny 10-16 Ton Tanks up to 30-60 Ton tanks by the end as well.
ahhhh no.... Japan attacked the US with Zero's, Kates, and other monoplanes. Germany had Stuka's, ME-109's, the US had lots of P-40 Warhawks to start no clue where you get your info
The pace of technology from the interwar years and through WWII is mind boggling.
Excellent research and presentation! I’ve often wondered why HS 123 lasted so long. Your comparison with the swordfish is right on target.
The Swordfish later variants used in northern France in 1944 had Radar and Rockets, plain weird!
Interesting history, thanks for the video and commentary! It blew my mind reading his book, that Galland started out as a dive bomber pilot flying bi-planes in Spain and Poland! Gallad started the war with bi-planes and ended it on the last day with jets.
Galland did a dodgy, one of many dodgies in his career after figuring out that open air cockpits sucked got a doctors note saying he was too delicate for open air cockpits. He had already dodged out of being an elite (bombers) by failing multi engine conversion course so he had to by default go to fighters... which is what he wanted in the first place.
First and the last. Book by galland
The primary virtues of the Hs-123 were difficult to utilize because production ended so soon. Being simple to build and maintain. Being able to provide air cover in the coldest weather. Being able to operate from air fields close to the frontlines. None could be utilized more than marginally because so few were built.
Another excellent presentation, sir. I commend you. The 123 teaches us some lessons. Keep high performance fighters away from your ground attack planes, stats don't always equate to effectiveness, if speed isnt top priority biplanes did OK by themselves in WWII, and dependable planes with experienced pilots can eventually find a use regardless of performance.
The first point has a caveat. Other than being surprised i would be willing to bet the 123 was actually more survivable than the Stuka or Il-2. It, like the Swordfish, was highly maneuverable and well behaved and, lets face it, none of these planes is outrunning anyone so you might as well take your chances trying to make the fighter pilot make a fatal mistake. It happened a lot and to some of the greatest aces ever.
I also just have a hunch that, if the 123 was a little bigger and had a rear gunner with power to carry him, it would have outlasted the Ju-87 much like the Swordfish outlasted the Albacore but we'll never know.
Cheers!
1:47 - Hugo Sperrle ... such a friendly looking guy!
"Is that a dueling scar, Commander ?"
I love biplanes and the He 123 is a great example of the last of its type. Thank you for this very good presentation.
Very cool video. Never heard of the 123s especially good reliability before.
Can you imagine flying this plane in the winter, in Russia, with an open cockpit? I wonder how many pilots got frost bite?
considering pilots had good clothes and warm machine parts in front of them, probably it wasn't too bad. At least compared to folks who froze in trenches
Soviet pilots did the same thing flying their Ratas.
Excellent video. I have always had a soft spot for the 123. I wasn't aware of its operational history, learned something new.
same
Love the Fiat CR-32 & 42. Hawker Fury, Fairy Flycatcher (!!!) and the Grumman F3F series. Thanks!
The 123 calls also Obergefreiter by the german infantry. I love this simple moth....
Obergefreiter = Privat first Class!
My favourite 2nd WW biplanes?
The Gloster Gladiator/Sea Gladiator (fully enclosed cockpit, radio, and possibly oxygen bottles too. The first two are simply vital, and the last feature is a must-have for nearly all military planes, especially combat planes).
And the Fiat CR-42, for its Italian origins and its use by the Belgian Air Force.
One of my favorite aircraft along with the FW-189.
Favorite WWII biplane, the Gloster Gladiator a much underrated and forgotten fighter. After that the Fiat CR42 Falco another forgotten fighter.
Oh, I have a favorite one, and you spoke of it with much kindness.
The importance of phycological warfare is underestimated. The 123 rattling was probably thought to be a massive number of mgs on the attackers. Imagine the stories from solders saying they had seen the attacker had at least 10 mgs. The scary noise of the Stuka diving was due to an air driven siren. That noise is still the sound put in movies for planes in a power dive.
Thank you. I love the hs 123. Reminds me of the sky raider. Wonderful video
As a Brit, I should say that the best WWII biplane was the Gloster Gladiator... but it wasn't, because the Fiat CR.42 was. Neither was a match for the monoplanes that came into production just a few short years after, but they were the best of the last biplanes.
They were fighters. This was a Close Air Support aircraft. It just looks similar.
Americans and British also never had large numbers of dedicated ground attack aircraft. They used the P-38, P-47, Hurricane II, Typhoon and Tempest. The 190 was an excellent ground attack plane.
Revell made a very excellent model of the HS 123. I own two. One I built the other is going to stay in the box... For now at least.
By the middle of 1943 the allies had air superiority throughout Europe. Barbarossa needed Re-up expediency to pull off but the Luftwaffe lost it's cargo capability in the Mediterranean.
The Herschel 123 is of course one of my favorites as is the famous Gloster Gladiator .
I found this channel through this vid and immediately subscribed. This information is going to be great for my novels eventually.
As usual another well researched presentation with lots of interesting information! Thanks!
The father of the Stuka - served until there were none left. On time, on target - what grunts want and need!
The pic of the He-111’s at 5:10 are the first variant pre glass house nose variant
Again, excellent video about one of my favorites.Loved the swordfish comparison and the Jäbo connection with the fw190
Regards, Keep up
We had planes in Afghanistan specifically the EMB 314 Super Tucano which were no doubt inspired by this plane , the fact that these soldiered on clear into 1944 is a testament to their ruggedness and more importantly their simplicity of design. With a few upgrades we could have used these in today's close support roles. Excellent video Thank You !!
Nonsense, the EMB 314 / A-29 Super Tucano is an evolution of the British Short Tucano basic trainer and was built by Brazil as a COIN platform.
COIN from Cuban over Vietnam to Iraq saw countless improvements, look up the OV-10 Bronco and the development of targeting pods with the Martin B-57G Tropic Moon III.
Neither the A-10 nor the Super Tucano are inspired by anything German, and to claim so is sheer misguided Wehraboo nostalgia and Reformer historical revisionism.
Greetings from Germany.
@@FirstDagger you are correct - there were no ground attack variants in service in the Luftwaffe during WW2 certainly not the HS123 , hello from Anhalt , Bernburg. BTW boy genius the builders of the A-10 hired Hans Ulrich Rudel as a consultant. Get off your self righteous virtue signalling pompous ass - don't always assume that you can bluff your way past the ignorance of you audience. Who is Bazil?
@@antonfarquar8799 ; "BTW boy genius the builders of the A-10 hired Hans Ulrich Rudel as a consultant" Pft you really believe this Reformer non-sense? Buddy you are way behind the times, you literally don't understand anything about combat aviation if you think this non-sense is true, and don't get me started on your other Freudian comments, cannot fathom that somebody has valid info you might not have or that invalidates yours eh? You should look up the Reformers and how their misguided perspective on combat has muddled the narrative especially in regards to the development of the A-10, F-15, F-16. And again look up US COIN aircraft, you will find that guided weapons and targeting equipment are much more important that anything else, especially the lessons from Vietnam. Thanks for correcting my mistake though, should have read "Brazil".
@@FirstDagger sorry to butt into this discussion however, Farquar is correct according to an article published by the Daily Beast Rudel did consult on the A-10 project.
"Engineer Pierre Sprey, a former Pentagon procurement official who helped design the A-10, confirmed to The Daily Beast that none other than legendary Luftwaffe Colonel Hans-Ulrich Rudel was consulted to develop the Warthog."
“While we were readying the airplane and gun for full scale production, the 30mm gun program manager, Col. Robert Dilger, invited Rudel to lead a symposium in DC attended by several hundred engineers, analysts, tacticians and intel types on all aspects of CAS [close air support] operations in combat,” Sprey told the Daily Beast. “For lots of them it was eye-opening. I translated for Rudel who spoke very little English.”
I suspect that Rudel may have known a thing or two about combat aviation that you Dagger may not .
@@myronfrobisher ; Pierre Sprey literally is a Reformer, he did none of the things he claimed credit for. The entire story about the A-10s creation they proclaim is fabricated.
Thanks for this detailed look at one of the more unlikely success stories in WWII aviation. I often think that the Hs 123, had it been produced in larger numbers, could have been the ground attack equivalent of the Fokker D.XXI - that you have previously covered - for the Finns, variously in the Winter and Continuation Wars, as a superficially obsolete type with a fixed undercarriage.
Good enough and easy to maintain are key qualities in war.
G4m Betty bomber. At it's intended role it was awesome.
I tend to think of the G4M 'Betty' as the very antithesis of the Hs 123, as one was big and soft and the other little and hard.
Excellent video, i never knew how useful the 123 was.
Finnish airforce use Blackburn Ribons and Fokker C.X and Closter Cladiators almost entire WW II. Ribons flew some of most daring rescue and resupply mission for long range patrols but also bomming missions agaist soviets. Fokker was used as main divebomber and photorecon plane with cameras developed our famous artillery general Nenonen and Gladiators are used as recon plane.
Fave WW2 biplane, let's see. Gladiator, I-153, Cr 42, Swordfish, and....HS123. Love em all.
A prime example of K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid tough, simple and easily maintained. The mid 20's to the late 40's is such an interesting time for aircraft
Insane how many wars fought by brave men with ingenious machines and just pissing contest between people who had more in common by their deeds.
I learnt something new! Good video, as was your Mosquito video. Subscribed.
Thank you , we'll done .
You have the most researched show i have seen on u tube. Please keep going
I have a flying model of the Hs 123 . Flies nice but the wheel fairings can catch on grass runways.
At the very start I thought the video was about the Heinkel 51, another biplane that the Legion Condor used at Spain. Although He-51 was designed as a fighter, in Spain their pilots didn't like it. It was too slow for the Soviet I-16 and not so manoeuverable as the I-15. So, Sperrle decided to use the He-51 in the same way the HS-123 was used at Spain, to straffe and bomb enemy positions. Soon it was replaced by the first production Messerschmidt 109 B's, which could counter the fast I-16. But I don't remember if the Me-109 B could chase the SB-2 Katiusha, a Soviet bomber so fast that in Spain flew without scort for some time.
Another great video. Ty!
As usual a great video! Thank you!
Thank you for your great video on the HS.123..The 123 was a surprisingly effective aircraft that went against the normal and achieved beyond.!
I like the I-153 and the Gloster Gladiator. Though the Stearman PT-13 was the most important by training thousands of pilots the basics of flying.
What a rugged/handsome-looking biplane.
Thank you for this video.
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Another supposedly obsolete biplane used in WW2 was the Gloster Gladiator which famously defended Malta against Germany and Italy.
A great little & very informative programme. Will be watching more & subscribing for sure.
I like the Walrus, the flying boat biplane.
Awesome aircraft.
Another great episode thank you!
Favourite WW2 biplane would probably be the Henschel 123, but I also like the Fiat CR 42 (which was not as handsome as his predecessor the Fiat CR 32). the British Hawker Fury was indeed a beautiful airplane, and the Bristol Bulldog and the Gloster Gladiator were not disgusting. The Fairey Swordfish was also quite good looking.
Lots of great photos
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Reminds me of the US currently looking into a slow stable turboprop like the old OV10 Bronco for ground attack in modern conflicts where air supremacy is total and AA defense minimal.
Very informative as usual. Thanks.
Awesome video, happy to have discovered your channel!
Thank you. Luv your channel.
Thanks for a great video featuring the HS 123, I appreciate that you cover not just the Bf 109, Spitfire and Mustang and instead cover a mix of wellknown planes and planes not getting a lot of cover on youtube and in books. Can´t wait for a video covering French bombers of ww2 like the Amiot 143, Bloch MB 200/210, Farman F220 and Potez 540. Keep up the great work.
Ruggedness, durability, simplicity, and ability to run in adverse conditions go a long way.
I always had a soft spot for this plane. Thank you for all the detailed Info you provided me with!
Your videos are brilliant. I subscribed halfway through this video an instanstly searched for more. Truly great content I guarentee this channel will grow at a rapid rate. Best of luck to you from Ireland
Well done!
Another excellent video. And yes, please cover the Hs 129.
Your good at colourising. Keep it up!
Big fan of the PO-2 / U-2
Back in the mid-late 1990's, I managed to pick-up a 1/48th scale Esci kit of the Henschel Hs.123.
Bought it off some old-boy who was giving up modelling & by late 90's was a rare kit back then.
Am wondering "if" that kit ever got re-released (?), as I also have a 'newer' (but still old), Fiat Cr.42
It all started for me, with the older (1/72) AIRFIX kit with the old "bag & staples" (white plastic !)
Utterly SUPERB = Roy Cross artwork, on the old 'Paper' folded instruction sheet header.....
Does ANYONE here know of an Hs.123 kit (latterday), available in 1/48th scale please ?
( 1/48th, not 1/72 )
Wonderful video.
Excellent channel.
The 123 was an unsung hero of the Luftwaffe. It was always overshadowed by the more modern Ju-87 and later Fw-190 _Jabos._ I rate it as _the_ most under appreciated aircraft from WWII. Anyone who wants to truly understand how Close Air Support works should look at the way the 123 was operated. Yes they lost a lot but that is the nature of the mission.
good video, thank you 👍
Thank you, vey informative
Excelente
Clouster Gladiator was a hot rod in close quarter fighting
I didn't know it ever performed it.
Gladiator would be my choice if I had to go up and fight in one, followed by the last FIAT bi plane
Well done.
The Malta Gladiators would be a subject
Faith, Hope, and Charity? I grew up reading about them. (1960's in the UK).
You are right, they don't seem to be mentioned much by the usual sites here on TH-cam. As I got older, I started to realise that there was a lot of propaganda going on - Malta had Spitfires! (eventually). However, it is definitely a tale worth telling. I wonder if Mark Felton has covered it? Probably! ;-)
I was wondering if the Fairly "Stringbag" Swordfish would be mentioned.
Nice looking little airplane. Bit like the cr42 👍
Great video. But I have to disagree with your comment about the Hs 129. At least Martin Pegg gives him a very good description in his book 'Hs129 Panzerjäger'
Regards
Emilio
Nice work.
North Korea still fielded a few bi-planes in combat into the 50s
Awesome thanks
I'm actually very curious what the legacy of the Hs-123 would be if it had stayed in production through WWII. I suspect production would have shifted from Ju-87s to Hs-123s as the war progressed. The poor power output could have been fixed with methanol injection. I wish a direct comparison could be more thoroughly analyzed.
The mission was subtly different. And the subtlety was not appreciated until the aircraft went out of production. The Stuka was a bit of a one trick pony by comparison with the 123. Once the dive was done it was time to go home. The 123, with its lower speed and better maeuvrability, could hang around and harry enemy troop formations. It's not the the Stuka couldn't do it: it's just that it couldn't do it as well.
Close Air Support is arguably the _least_ well understood mission of all.
Some car brands and their service centers DISCOURAGE D.I.Y. to owners in repairing cars.
The Hs 123 is clear proof of the old adage"IF it ain't broke, Don't fix it."
Thanks!
When I built model airplanes from kits like Airfix and others, my favourites were the biplanes of WW2. Do any HS 123s exist today?
None exist today .. possible wrecks in Soviet lakes ..
As hard as the Royal Navy tried (and they honestly tried real hard) they could not retire the Fairy Swordfish, also a Bi-Plane.
Nice vid, i always wonder why german still using this plane in ww2
They were cheap?
Good stuff.
Those wheel pants!
I-152 and I-153, Great at dog fights down low
So it was basically Germanys Fairey Swordfish......
And oh shit, I've just got to that part in the video lol.
No, it wasn't a torpedo bomber.
I'm a big fan of the He 51. It really looks like it could do stuff. But something must have gone wrong on the inside.
Liked that little plane since I heard of it. Shame they shut down production so early really.
That is the pace of war .. Monoplanes where coming in .. so naturally focus shifted to the modern stuff
@@kittyhawk9707 still could've been made til at least 39..... Kinda like how the Grumman duck came back out of retirement since it's replacement actually sucked. Engine problems galore.
@@dillonpierce7869 true ..bit like the Albacore and the Swordfish ... You mean the SO2 Seagull replacement .. The SO3 Seamew ..yeah that sucked so they had to bring the Seagull back into service ..
@@kittyhawk9707 except I actually love the seamew as well it's just adorable looking. 😂. P40 comes to mind as well except it was produced the whole war but the higher ups in the govt didn't really want them after mid 43 or so.
@@dillonpierce7869 Except the P40 was technically obsolete as a fighter early 42 ..but went on as a ground attacker ( even though it could still hold it's own against other fighters ).. bit different .. We are talking .. Say P26 Peashooter.. can you imagine keeping that in production , when more modern aircraft for the time ie the P40 where being developed. Why waste resources .. it would have been massacred .. Germany in full swing in 1939 with Stuka production .. so lots of Hs123 simply where not needed , as the Stuka was far more suited to role then the Hs123 was.
Didn’t the Germans commandeer some Italian Fiat CR-42 Falco biplane fighters, to be used as night raiders late in the war? If I’m not mistaken, I think they used some of those to attack partisans in Yugoslavia.
check your swordfish history, it was not a old design and for lifting a huge torpedo of a carrier, the high lift of a biplane was desirable
Simple, durable and resisting retirement...call me HS 123 😶
The Italians had some Biplanes too.
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