Managed to resist the temptation to make an entire video about the B-21 and the processes around its development and instead opted to do a wider look at the next generation bomber race and the main competitors. One element that I gloss over here (because details are so scant) but which can't be ignored is the question of how wide the capability gap between these aircraft would likely be. Yes, all three are likely to be subsonic aircraft incorporating LO or VLO features for example - but stealth aircraft can be vastly different from each other in terms of just how hard they are to detect. It seems very unlikely, for example, that Russia's bomber would have the same stealth performance as the B-21. For now, the scale of those differences remains speculatory, but they may have a significant impact on just how useful these aircraft might be if actually built and fielded. Hope you all enjoyed, and I'll see you again next week.
@@voidtempering8700 idk but i'm going to call out boeng for that one. their rep for screwing whistleblowers is definitely first-rate ofc, that one famous boeing whistleblower who died mysteriously (ahem, clearly committed suicide days before giving evidence in a major investigation, honest) is totally NOT suspicious at all.
dilemma: on one hand, i really want Perun to become even more successful and reach more people, because his subscriber count is criminally low for the quality of content he produces. on the other hand, i like that the community here seems very sensible and generally wholesome… and i would hate for brain rot weirdos to take over the comments 😭
This is the honeymoon period for channels like this. Good size, good body of work, established schedule and production style / quality. Let's appreciate it while it lasts!
I'm so glad we opened trade with China in the 1970s and gave them a chance to create their own strategic bomber fleet. Now the U.S. Navy is going to be solely focused on China for the next century...
I'm trying to figure out what the reference is ... maybe the USS United States (TBF not their fault) or the Tomcats? Or ... wait it's the zumwalts or LCSs innit...
"At the risk of alienating some of the audience by nerding out over contracting and program management for a moment..." No Perun, that IS your audience :)
Keep in mind it’s always easier to do the second generation of something than the first gen. When developing something totally new from scratch you don’t know what you don’t know, and thus delays happen. Once you’ve done it once you have experience to draw upon and have worked out a lot of the difficulties so they don’t bite you a second time. This is why R&D contracts should NEVER be Firm Fixed Price - there’s no guarantee it will EVER work, and no way to know what problems will rear their ugly head. You try to account for risks, you try to manage the risks, but in the end they ARE risks.
Second thing to keep in account is that the B21 doesn't need to worry about maintaining the RAM coating for supersonic flight or high g loads. The rumors I've heard for why the B21 is much more painless compared to F-35 is because of the lack of supersonic flight.
US DoD: "oh no, they might have a bunch of bombers" - builds enough Buffs to level the planet US DoD: "oh no, that Foxbat seems dangerous" - builds a jet that is 104:0 to this day US DoD: "oh no, they have good air to air missiles and radars now" - builds the F-22 I think I see a pattern there.
Russia needs to stop exaggerating their capabilities. You would think they would catch on by now. Whatever it is the Russians claim their capabilities are, the US will throw money at the military-industrial complex until they have something whose publicly released understated capabilities beats that.
@@davidgoodnow269 IfUSāSō → Play with the algorithm and see if your conjecture plays out. My experiments suggest that it is just the opposite, if you click on it and downvote it (& not watch it) on a regular basis, the next in the series will be at the top of the “important” column. One channel mostly runs repeats of old videos EVERYDAY (with youtube ADs) and I do my usual routine, and it appears that the determining factor is basically “you get shoved in your face what you have clicked on the most” irrespective if you didn’t watch it or downvoted it (AND IF IT HAS TH-cam ADs). Why interesting channels that are subscribed to seem to get “forgotten” seems to be a different aspect of the “master algorithm”. If anyone knows more, please add your thoughts as youtube algorithm is generally an enigma. It seems to me to be mostly ruled by “potential advertising impressions clicks”!! If the video is not “youtube monetized (meaning that it has youtube ADs)”, it seems to be ranked lower as far as “serving up importance”.
Play with the algorithm and see if your conjecture plays out. My experiments suggest that it is just the opposite, if you click on it and downvote it (& not watch it) on a regular basis, the next in the series will be at the top of the “important” column. One channel mostly runs repeats of old videos EVERYDAY (with youtube ADs) and I do my usual routine, and it appears that the determining factor is basically “you get shoved in your face what you have clicked on the most” irrespective if you didn’t watch it or downvoted it (AND IF IT HAS TH-cam ADs). Why interesting channels that are subscribed to seem to get “forgotten” seems to be a different aspect of the “master algorithm”. If anyone knows more, please add your thoughts as youtube algorithm is generally an enigma. It seems to me to be mostly ruled by “potential advertising impressions clicks”!! If the video is not “youtube monetized (meaning that it has youtube ADs, or in this case does not have youtube ads)”, it seems to be ranked lower as far as “serving up importance”.
Sometimes I listen to these while doing other stuff, but then I hear the line "at the risk of alienating the audience by nerding out over..."and immediately tab back over to the video to see exactly how deep we're going.
@pRahvi0 I'm planning a trip this summer to the National Airforce Museum in Dayton, Ohio to see (among many other things) the surviving XB-70. There is a whole bunch of NASA kit there as well, including the hypersonic X-15 and the lifting body X-24.
Ah yes, Clan omnimechs, expensive US Navy maneuvers, and troops spending enlistment bonuses on Mustangs and Chargers. That's the kind of insightful pop culture commentary that brightens my week. :D This layman thanks you for yet another easily digestible survey of a topic I read only bits and pieces of.
"Congratulations, Cadet! You have successfully demonstrated the ability to do what I tell you to. I like that. My dog does what I tell her to. I like my dog. I should introduce you to each other. Remind me to do that." -Mechwarrior 2, Training Instructor
Perun was so careful to "count all the woolies" at the start, he missed one amusing fact: The USAF is currently operating a jet bomber of EVERY development generation: B-52 (40's-50's), B-1 (60's-70's), B2 (80's-90's), B21 (21st-century)
I wonder if a person from the B-21 team sees this video and goes "Finally, some recognition!" and has a nice afternoon with a cookie and a smile on their face
What’s depressing is that this is NOT how companies want to do business. You don’t get rich by selling things under budget. You don’t even stay in business. Meanwhile Lockheed and Raytheon execs get rich off of delays and overruns. The world needs more Northrop Grumman style endeavors, but the system incentivizes Boeing/Lockheed-style ones.
@@martinertlschweiger8218 Right but you don't see the layers of contractors working for such company. Mine is one that produces the test facilities, cells, and data systems for testing the bloody engines. So not only are we contractors on development and production lines but we must now contract out our productions too. It's a consequence of 100s of non centralized design and development efforts. The higher costs come from always seeking out the under seller instead of a credible well planned out project.
B-58 Hustler - the high maintenance supermodel of bombers. Love the looks, love the performance, hate the amount of money, time, and men that she consumed.
One of my grandfathers was on the development team. Apparently it has oddities never disclosed to this day. He also worked on the first supersonic cruise missile. They had to abort that because it out-ran the non-supersonic chase planes. The design team told the Air Force, "See? Told ya."
Well, no nuclear wars on her watch, so Mission Accomplished is one way to look at it. Let's enjoy her for her looks and moves, don't begrudge the paint and powder, imagine steering one of those through the sky with any excuse whatsoever.
@@marcogenovesi8570 USAF didn't believe the design team when told it would be that fast . . . 1955, I think it was? Not sure if they had supersonic jets, yet.
Bless your heart for trusting us to understand exactly what you mean with very descriptive (but slightly obscure) references like "...a clan omnimech...". Thank you for treating us like adults!
To get an idea of just how expensive the B2 was, I am pretty sure there was a time when the B2 was worth more per pound than Gold. And it weighs 160,000 pounds.
As they were preparing to disassemble the line, they offered congress the option to buy more at a mere $600,000,000 each. Surprisingly, they didn't bite.
Hold up. You are telling me Russia didn’t lie about their capabilities for once? We just didn’t know what we were looking at so it is our fault for once that we over-engineered a solution to a non-existent Russian threat? Damn
I don't know that we "didn't know what we were looking at" so much as "we know how to play the military procurement game to get the funding we want". Nothing makes the money printer spool up faster than a doom-and-gloom projection of how we are behind an adversary in something.
Non Existent Rushn' threat is completely true. Their army, air force, and (what's left) of their Navy is a complete and total joke. If they can't even take 10% of the second poorest country in Europe after losing 500,000 men and mobilizing their entire country, they aint fit to fight _anybody_ much less any "western" country.
Perun, you deserve massive success for the incredible corpus of work you have built. You should have four times the subscribers, if not more! Kudos for a job excellently done.
@@r2020E Sure, you could make a wildly speculative statement like that, based entirely on your feelings and unbacked by any sort of actual data. Or you could just check socialblade and discover that his sub count has been consistently growing by a minimum of 5-6k per month for the past six months, long after the initial inrush when All Bling No Basics dropped.
@@andersjjensen You're not wrong! Looking at aviation over the last fifty years show some interesting trends, planes are more reliable and fuel efficient but raw performance-wise things haven't changed enormously. The fastest plane ever built was apparently the X-15. It came out in 1959. So yeah, if you were to build a solid, cost-efficient bomb truck tomorrow it would look like a B-52 anyway.
@@TheStephaneAdam Pretty much. Perhaps 10% better carrying capacity and 15-20% better range. Probably also a bit more maintainable as they've probably figured out how to make stuff like landing gear components more directly accessible and such. But all-in-all it will be a B-52 with a shine job.
I can't wait for the 2050 American defense budget to include warp drive upgrades for the B-52, because apparently it is striving to become the living embodiment of the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Well, the first thing you're going to see is an impulse drive upgrade. So before Grandpa Buff receives his commission under the designation NCC-52 "Godbomber", the last thing bad little man-children will experience is the sight of Santa Buff on the approach pulled along by eight tiny tic-tacs 😁
"You know, we had unmanned bombers in WW2, comrade? The 588th Night Bomber Regiment flew entirely unmanned. Once again you follow where Mother Russia has already led!" "Yeah, I hear the dawns were quiet there as well."
Seriously, Perun, between your data, analysis of that data, extrapolation from that analysis, and sense of humour, this is some of the best material on TH-cam.
We hear the phrase "moving the goalposts" so much that, you know, we may as well make the goalposts movable in American Football. That would add some more entertainment.
They should be able to move them into the parking lot ao the teams have to fight their way through the arena and smash into cars like in pro wrestling ppvs.
Perun is the Tom Clancy of the 21st century: Interesting, well informed, and with a spot-on dry sense of humour. (Better late than never, I'm now finally a subscriber!)
O.K., I have wondered since I was a kid why the _Fighter_ -111 was parallel to the F-14 and the F-15, and the A-7 and A-8. I know the F-14 only existed because the Shah of Iran gave it financial support, and the Navy wanted it because the F-15 is incompatible with aircraft carriers. But an F-111 doesn't carry air-to-air missiles, so why is it a Fighter instead of an Attack or a Bomber? It can't operate from carriers, and F-15s obviously can carry bombs, so why does it exist? Was it just a jobs-creation program? Did it have any advantages?
@@davidgoodnow269originally it was developed as a fighter that would be used by all branches. Unfortunately it's fighter prowess was underwhelming, fortunately enough of them existed so they couldn't just scrap them. However it did excel at strike, reconnissance and electronic warfare so they kept the aircraft. Why they didn't change the name, who knows.
As a regular listener, I can't express how interesting I find your work. Many, many thanks for all the effort you put in it! Please, take care of yourself and if you ever have to choose between time for a well-deserved rest and working on the channel, please sit back and relax!
I really like your format starting with a brief historical context, a substantive analysis of the current situation, and a short comment on what is known for the future. I feel more fully informed when I have all three of these.
arent timeframe and budget kinda subjective anyway? like if i set a 99 year dev cycle and a 99 trillion dollar budget i'll always be on time and under budget (this is a shitpost)
It's partly because terms don't translate 1:1. If you were to use a similar naming scheme for US, it would be something like National Defence Force's Naval Aviation. So while the translation is "technically" correct, it doesn't read as insane in Mandarin.
@@lucidnonsense942 I want to trust your knowledge of Mandarin (because I have none), but isn't "People's Liberation Army" a thing? I mean, they are commies and that name seems historically grounded, so why would it translate to National Defense Force out of all things? I know Chinese is often weird that way, but that's a bit of a stretch, no?
Thought in first 10min. Overestimating an opponent helps the military talk up its requirements, and helps industry sell things to meet those. I see every reason for this to continue, and when budget is accommodating, this can happen extensively.
Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this video Perun! I’ve been following these videos since you started posting your power point presentation on war and defense. I couldn’t help but get a huge smile and rush to comment when I heard you make a Battletech reference! Thank you for that!
A note on the XB-70: Only one prototype survived the cancelled program. The other crashed spectacularly in a mid-air collision with one of the chase planes.
That graphic about the operating costs of aircraft was wild to me. I worked on uh-60's and it's no wonder they were all beat to hell. Literally the cheapest aircraft the US military operates per flight hour
@@davidelliott5843 I wouldn't call them sunk cost when the current result is "This grand old lady is so physically bug-fixed now, and the training programs are so institutionalised now, that any attempt to build a new gigantic flying bomb truck is patently insane". The Buff even got it's mission profile extended as a transport plane, with the invention of BOCS containers that mount to the bomb bay hard points. Being able to carry 10k lbs worth of stuff a very long way is never not useful. I hope I live to see it's 100th year of service.
@@davidelliott5843 It helps that the B-52H was built after the DEW lines of radar were in place. It no longer was necessary to have them on airborne alert, so they spent their nuclear deterrence life sitting instead of flying around like the early models did.
Bruhhh… I dunno how I stumbled across this. I don’t fish, I grew up skateboarding and to see anyone being gracious and humble about their sponsors resonates. We’re all keeping each other in business at the end. Keep being gracious.
When I was playing Harpoon on the computer back in the day, Blackjack bombers were always top priority before they turned into a cloud of annoying missiles.
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Managed to resist the temptation to make an entire video about the B-21 and the processes around its development and instead opted to do a wider look at the next generation bomber race and the main competitors.
One element that I gloss over here (because details are so scant) but which can't be ignored is the question of how wide the capability gap between these aircraft would likely be. Yes, all three are likely to be subsonic aircraft incorporating LO or VLO features for example - but stealth aircraft can be vastly different from each other in terms of just how hard they are to detect. It seems very unlikely, for example, that Russia's bomber would have the same stealth performance as the B-21.
For now, the scale of those differences remains speculatory, but they may have a significant impact on just how useful these aircraft might be if actually built and fielded.
Hope you all enjoyed, and I'll see you again next week.
I'm just glad to have another good Sunday listening to ur stuff. Might have a sneaky mimosa and some pancakes. Love u Perun.
Do you think a future video dedicated to the B-21 is on the cards for the future?
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Hey Perun, you’re probably a major effing weeb as well being australian and all. Have you heard the new Babymetal song?
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The extent to which this is an integral part of my Sunday cannot be overstated
Ditto, nothing happens in my house till the briefing is complete!
Usually my Monday as well. I tend to watch it twice.
@@SpookyEng1IDK, these are usually pretty handy to listen to whilst cleaning or cooking.
Awesome content.
Surely you mean "overstated".
"The absolute finest in whistleblower detection technology" made my day
Perun's humor is dryer than the Atacama desert and I'm here for all of it
Yeh, cane to the comments for this, what a line
I genuinely laughed out loud 😂
Perun is a finer whistleblower and journalist than most of the famous ones I know of.
"If you're only casually into bombing people then bombers might not be for you" I love your phrasing xD
👍 Best line so far, at 21 min in.
Okay, then, "the absolute finest in whistleblower detection technology." 🤣
This is actually literally true. Look at Sudanese or Syrians rolling barrel bombs off the tail-ramps of their transport aircraft.
@@nickcharles1284 Your comment has no relation to what the OP said. Also, source?
@@nickcharles1284You misspelled “Muscovy,” kacap.
@@voidtempering8700 idk but i'm going to call out boeng for that one. their rep for screwing whistleblowers is definitely first-rate
ofc, that one famous boeing whistleblower who died mysteriously (ahem, clearly committed suicide days before giving evidence in a major investigation, honest) is totally NOT suspicious at all.
dilemma: on one hand, i really want Perun to become even more successful and reach more people, because his subscriber count is criminally low for the quality of content he produces. on the other hand, i like that the community here seems very sensible and generally wholesome… and i would hate for brain rot weirdos to take over the comments 😭
This is the honeymoon period for channels like this. Good size, good body of work, established schedule and production style / quality. Let's appreciate it while it lasts!
The Aussie sense of humour has something to do with it 😂
I am shocked that I might be called "Sensible and Wholesome" not sure how to react.
@@GrigoriZhukov Tell me about it...
@@GrigoriZhukovlook at your comment history friend, you’re pretty sensible , also
The other dude that commented below you
“Building expensive things and throwing them away is more of a US Navy move”- you sneak some of the best comedy into here I swear
I'm so glad we opened trade with China in the 1970s and gave them a chance to create their own strategic bomber fleet. Now the U.S. Navy is going to be solely focused on China for the next century...
I'm trying to figure out what the reference is ... maybe the USS United States (TBF not their fault) or the Tomcats?
Or ... wait it's the zumwalts or LCSs innit...
@@LuckyFlanker13 railgun?
@@LuckyFlanker13LCS, Zumwalts, and now the FFGX also, if reports are to be believed
The signature move for Russia and china is : arrest the guy later for corruption charges
"At the risk of alienating some of the audience by nerding out over contracting and program management for a moment..." No Perun, that IS your audience :)
Yes! We want more pedantic, esoteric, and nerdy shit, Mr. Powerpoint man!
The dry joke delivery in this episode is on an entirely new level.
Is it just me, or is the entire military based around someone else building something scary?
Hehe it’s great
Sheev "The Senate" Palpatine "...on time and under budget", Lockheed-Martin: "Is it possible to learn this power?"
This is the best comment…
"Not only that.
I can make it llegal."
Not from the fighter (producers)
Keep in mind it’s always easier to do the second generation of something than the first gen. When developing something totally new from scratch you don’t know what you don’t know, and thus delays happen. Once you’ve done it once you have experience to draw upon and have worked out a lot of the difficulties so they don’t bite you a second time.
This is why R&D contracts should NEVER be Firm Fixed Price - there’s no guarantee it will EVER work, and no way to know what problems will rear their ugly head. You try to account for risks, you try to manage the risks, but in the end they ARE risks.
Second thing to keep in account is that the B21 doesn't need to worry about maintaining the RAM coating for supersonic flight or high g loads. The rumors I've heard for why the B21 is much more painless compared to F-35 is because of the lack of supersonic flight.
US DoD: "oh no, they might have a bunch of bombers" - builds enough Buffs to level the planet
US DoD: "oh no, that Foxbat seems dangerous" - builds a jet that is 104:0 to this day
US DoD: "oh no, they have good air to air missiles and radars now" - builds the F-22
I think I see a pattern there.
Russia needs to stop exaggerating their capabilities. You would think they would catch on by now. Whatever it is the Russians claim their capabilities are, the US will throw money at the military-industrial complex until they have something whose publicly released understated capabilities beats that.
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Fighting fair is unacceptable.
At least the first two examples fall under "overreacting to bad intel", which the USA is quite good at.
Like the burger, it is always a struggle to built it bigger and with more toppings than everybody else in the business.
This video is so much into stealth that the algorithm forget to show it to me
Why would an algorithm bother showing you something that traffic analysis shows you are going to consistently head to on your own?
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IfUSāSō → Play with the algorithm and see if your conjecture plays out. My experiments suggest that it is just the opposite, if you click on it and downvote it (& not watch it) on a regular basis, the next in the series will be at the top of the “important” column. One channel mostly runs repeats of old videos EVERYDAY (with youtube ADs) and I do my usual routine, and it appears that the determining factor is basically “you get shoved in your face what you have clicked on the most” irrespective if you didn’t watch it or downvoted it (AND IF IT HAS TH-cam ADs). Why interesting channels that are subscribed to seem to get “forgotten” seems to be a different aspect of the “master algorithm”. If anyone knows more, please add your thoughts as youtube algorithm is generally an enigma. It seems to me to be mostly ruled by “potential advertising impressions clicks”!! If the video is not “youtube monetized (meaning that it has youtube ADs)”, it seems to be ranked lower as far as “serving up importance”.
Same here, had to go find it, it wasn’t up top on Home
Play with the algorithm and see if your conjecture plays out. My experiments suggest that it is just the opposite, if you click on it and downvote it (& not watch it) on a regular basis, the next in the series will be at the top of the “important” column. One channel mostly runs repeats of old videos EVERYDAY (with youtube ADs) and I do my usual routine, and it appears that the determining factor is basically “you get shoved in your face what you have clicked on the most” irrespective if you didn’t watch it or downvoted it (AND IF IT HAS TH-cam ADs). Why interesting channels that are subscribed to seem to get “forgotten” seems to be a different aspect of the “master algorithm”. If anyone knows more, please add your thoughts as youtube algorithm is generally an enigma. It seems to me to be mostly ruled by “potential advertising impressions clicks”!! If the video is not “youtube monetized (meaning that it has youtube ADs, or in this case does not have youtube ads)”, it seems to be ranked lower as far as “serving up importance”.
It's hard to sell stealth toys to consumers.
Sometimes I listen to these while doing other stuff, but then I hear the line "at the risk of alienating the audience by nerding out over..."and immediately tab back over to the video to see exactly how deep we're going.
Totally relatable 😂
I wish he had gone into more depth. As a Canadian, I want to know what an on time and under budget military procurement program is like
@@martins.2502those are the projects that the government wants to cancel and jail the Admiral that was making sure it stayed on track.
Love anytime the XB-70 Valkyrie gets a mention. One of the coolest piece of Cold War experimental kit.
My first question: does it have powerful exterior speakers to play my "Ho-yo-to-ho"?
@@chezmoi42 You can hear faintly it under the sonic boom.
I find it very fitting that it was given to NASA.
@pRahvi0 I'm planning a trip this summer to the National Airforce Museum in Dayton, Ohio to see (among many other things) the surviving XB-70. There is a whole bunch of NASA kit there as well, including the hypersonic X-15 and the lifting body X-24.
Better Wagner's "Die Walkyrie"
Granpa buff never dies.
Granpa BUFF is forever and getting warp engines for our war against the Jupiter colony on Titan :P
Yeah the idea Buff will be replaced BEFORE warp drive is laughable.
@@AnAngryRedGummyBear The Buff will instead be the first platform to be equipped with warp drive.
@@Tomatnaufmaugn Already a proven time traveler, so maybe Gramps has already got them.
The Roman Legion, the British Man O' War, the American B-52.
"Clan Omni Mech" I see you friend.
seyla!
The warriors may do the fighting, but it is the technician caste that keeps the machines running, quiaff?
@@stgjr , aff, trothkin. It is a foolish warrior indeed that discounts their contribution to the Clan.
Laughs in Tukayyid
I cheered out loud at that line lmao
With the B-52 staying in service for so long, they'll need to add a third digit to avoid confusion if a new bomber is released in 2052....
Why? It's not like the B-1 came out in 2001, or the B-2 in 2002 . . .
"B-52" will remain as iconic as Coca-Cola or Mickey Mouse.
They will start adding warp drives to it eventually.
@@scottgray3945An anime should do that!
@@scottgray3945and then keep upgrading it for the next 300 years
I did not know that's where the "52" comes from. How interesting!
Ah yes, Clan omnimechs, expensive US Navy maneuvers, and troops spending enlistment bonuses on Mustangs and Chargers. That's the kind of insightful pop culture commentary that brightens my week. :D This layman thanks you for yet another easily digestible survey of a topic I read only bits and pieces of.
"Congratulations, Cadet! You have successfully demonstrated the ability to do what I tell you to. I like that. My dog does what I tell her to. I like my dog. I should introduce you to each other. Remind me to do that." -Mechwarrior 2, Training Instructor
Perun was so careful to "count all the woolies" at the start, he missed one amusing fact: The USAF is currently operating a jet bomber of EVERY development generation:
B-52 (40's-50's), B-1 (60's-70's), B2 (80's-90's), B21 (21st-century)
Well those numbers are wrong, but it does go to show how calling B-21 a "sixth gen" bomber is nonsense.
Leave B2 in the 80's and add the Nighthawk for the 90's. Which is still in service. It's is a bomber and not a fighter.
@SlavicCelery I thought all the Nighthawks were retired.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Final retirement is still a ways off. Not very many are used, but there are a handful still in use.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Technically, though a couple seem to be still flying, and not in a "air show" way.
I love it as an adult I look forward to a new Perun video as I did when I was a kid on Friday for Disney show.
I wonder if a person from the B-21 team sees this video and goes "Finally, some recognition!" and has a nice afternoon with a cookie and a smile on their face
MOST likely. Perun has made it higher up the recognition ladder than what the comment section suggests.
Pretty sure these people will be too busy and nerdy to surf on TH-cam lol
@@thomaszhang3101 it's a massive problem I guarantee at least some of them have seen this
What’s depressing is that this is NOT how companies want to do business. You don’t get rich by selling things under budget. You don’t even stay in business. Meanwhile Lockheed and Raytheon execs get rich off of delays and overruns.
The world needs more Northrop Grumman style endeavors, but the system incentivizes Boeing/Lockheed-style ones.
@@martinertlschweiger8218 Right but you don't see the layers of contractors working for such company. Mine is one that produces the test facilities, cells, and data systems for testing the bloody engines. So not only are we contractors on development and production lines but we must now contract out our productions too. It's a consequence of 100s of non centralized design and development efforts. The higher costs come from always seeking out the under seller instead of a credible well planned out project.
Indy Neidell provides my Saturday morning cartoons, and Perun manages Sunday morning. Life is good at 30
eh, weekend warfare gang!
Same!
B-58 Hustler - the high maintenance supermodel of bombers. Love the looks, love the performance, hate the amount of money, time, and men that she consumed.
One of my grandfathers was on the development team. Apparently it has oddities never disclosed to this day. He also worked on the first supersonic cruise missile.
They had to abort that because it out-ran the non-supersonic chase planes. The design team told the Air Force, "See? Told ya."
Meanwhile, the 1000 Ukrainian soldiers being killed or wounded per day are not laughing.
Well, no nuclear wars on her watch, so Mission Accomplished is one way to look at it. Let's enjoy her for her looks and moves, don't begrudge the paint and powder, imagine steering one of those through the sky with any excuse whatsoever.
@@davidgoodnow269 Who thought of assigning non-supersonic chase planes to a supersonic missile? Classic Chair Force
@@marcogenovesi8570 USAF didn't believe the design team when told it would be that fast . . . 1955, I think it was? Not sure if they had supersonic jets, yet.
"Dial a JDAM"
You're not wrong.
"And remember boys: When the USAF is around you can always just dial 0-800-delete-this-grid to solve all your most pressing problems".
"Nice argument, unfortunately: ↑→↓↓↓"
Bless your heart for trusting us to understand exactly what you mean with very descriptive (but slightly obscure) references like "...a clan omnimech...".
Thank you for treating us like adults!
XD if only clan omni mechs were designed to be cheaper then the previous generation of their mechs 😂
To get an idea of just how expensive the B2 was, I am pretty sure there was a time when the B2 was worth more per pound than Gold. And it weighs 160,000 pounds.
As a US taxpayer, I feel that.
Most media reporting failed to separate per-unit costs with non-recurring engineering (development) costs.
As they were preparing to disassemble the line, they offered congress the option to buy more at a mere $600,000,000 each. Surprisingly, they didn't bite.
@@garrettkajmowiczAdmittedly when you have a single customer there's not that much difference in the grand scheme of things.
I think that claim was first made about the B-58. I've not been able to find confirmation though.
The B-52: "What's a photon torpedo?" Echoes for eternity.
Hold up. You are telling me Russia didn’t lie about their capabilities for once? We just didn’t know what we were looking at so it is our fault for once that we over-engineered a solution to a non-existent Russian threat?
Damn
I don't know that we "didn't know what we were looking at" so much as "we know how to play the military procurement game to get the funding we want". Nothing makes the money printer spool up faster than a doom-and-gloom projection of how we are behind an adversary in something.
The lions share of DoD developmental budget is geared at hypothetical /imagined future threats
Non Existent Rushn' threat is completely true. Their army, air force, and (what's left) of their Navy is a complete and total joke. If they can't even take 10% of the second poorest country in Europe after losing 500,000 men and mobilizing their entire country, they aint fit to fight _anybody_ much less any "western" country.
@@robcanisto8635hypothetical or not, it did make for good tech
The same is the case with the Mig-25. It did achieve the published figures, it just wasn't a multi-role fighter jet achieving them.
"If you're only casually into bombing" was not a phrase that I knew I needed.
BRO
we are all in a list after all
Perun, you deserve massive success for the incredible corpus of work you have built. You should have four times the subscribers, if not more! Kudos for a job excellently done.
😂😂
I agree you have a repository of information and well researched conjecture for the entire world to utilize
The problem is there is probably not that many more intelligent people left on the internet who are interested in the military industrial complex
@@r2020E Sure, you could make a wildly speculative statement like that, based entirely on your feelings and unbacked by any sort of actual data. Or you could just check socialblade and discover that his sub count has been consistently growing by a minimum of 5-6k per month for the past six months, long after the initial inrush when All Bling No Basics dropped.
The fact that the B-52 and Tu-95 are still the workhorse bomb trucks really says something about the old cold war designs.
And the price of new aircraft to develop and operate.
I think it says more about how fast we "completed standard physics".
@@andersjjensen You're not wrong! Looking at aviation over the last fifty years show some interesting trends, planes are more reliable and fuel efficient but raw performance-wise things haven't changed enormously.
The fastest plane ever built was apparently the X-15. It came out in 1959.
So yeah, if you were to build a solid, cost-efficient bomb truck tomorrow it would look like a B-52 anyway.
@@TheStephaneAdam Pretty much. Perhaps 10% better carrying capacity and 15-20% better range. Probably also a bit more maintainable as they've probably figured out how to make stuff like landing gear components more directly accessible and such. But all-in-all it will be a B-52 with a shine job.
@@andersjjensen And why gamble on whether Lockheed or Boeing would deliver a good product when we have perfectly good B52's already?
“As easy to modify as a Clan OmniMech.”
Saylah Honored Loremaster. However, please continue the Remembrance of ancient militaries.
I can't wait for the 2050 American defense budget to include warp drive upgrades for the B-52, because apparently it is striving to become the living embodiment of the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Well, the first thing you're going to see is an impulse drive upgrade.
So before Grandpa Buff receives his commission under the designation NCC-52 "Godbomber", the last thing bad little man-children will experience is the sight of Santa Buff on the approach pulled along by eight tiny tic-tacs 😁
Along with the pylon mount force field emitters and cloaking device generator it would be unstoppable.
"You know, we had unmanned bombers in WW2, comrade? The 588th Night Bomber Regiment flew entirely unmanned. Once again you follow where Mother Russia has already led!"
"Yeah, I hear the dawns were quiet there as well."
End of ww1 Kettering bug
Interstate TDR
@@everypitchcounts4875 this is more of a cruise missile (aerial torpedo in those days)
Why are people trying to correct this comment?
"Unmanned". Well he's no wrong.
As easy to upgrade as a clan omnimech. 😍
Perun you make my day with every release.
Another great Sunday!
Cant sleep, its 8am and ive been waiting all night for this, power point man guide me into my dreams
Sorry you can't sleep, don't let the depressive thoughts prevail today
Dude not the only one who use perun’s video as sleeping pills 💀
@@mrj4990 i try brother i try
Seriously, Perun, between your data, analysis of that data, extrapolation from that analysis, and sense of humour, this is some of the best material on TH-cam.
I think Perun has never had so many gaming references in one video before.
TRUE
I must've missed it...
We hear the phrase "moving the goalposts" so much that, you know, we may as well make the goalposts movable in American Football. That would add some more entertainment.
They should be able to move them into the parking lot ao the teams have to fight their way through the arena and smash into cars like in pro wrestling ppvs.
Love the occasional battle tech reference
Perun is the Tom Clancy of the 21st century: Interesting, well informed, and with a spot-on dry sense of humour. (Better late than never, I'm now finally a subscriber!)
Upgradable easier than a Clan Omni-Mech... Perun the Mech-Jock at heart...
Dropping PowerPoints is much more effective than dropping bombs
Its Perunday ! :D
The B-52 has such long legs that I am half expecting it to actually get *equipped* with a warp drive, to be honest
When Kirk and Co flew the Enterprise A into retirement, it was escorted by a B-52
28:07 Battletech reference hooray!
I miss the f-111 aardvarks, damn you strike eagles!
O.K., I have wondered since I was a kid why the _Fighter_ -111 was parallel to the F-14 and the F-15, and the A-7 and A-8.
I know the F-14 only existed because the Shah of Iran gave it financial support, and the Navy wanted it because the F-15 is incompatible with aircraft carriers.
But an F-111 doesn't carry air-to-air missiles, so why is it a Fighter instead of an Attack or a Bomber? It can't operate from carriers, and F-15s obviously can carry bombs, so why does it exist? Was it just a jobs-creation program?
Did it have any advantages?
@@davidgoodnow269originally it was developed as a fighter that would be used by all branches. Unfortunately it's fighter prowess was underwhelming, fortunately enough of them existed so they couldn't just scrap them. However it did excel at strike, reconnissance and electronic warfare so they kept the aircraft. Why they didn't change the name, who knows.
@@joeclaridy just think of the paperwork!
@joeclaridy I'd put my money on F-111 just sounding cooler.
As a regular listener, I can't express how interesting I find your work. Many, many thanks for all the effort you put in it! Please, take care of yourself and if you ever have to choose between time for a well-deserved rest and working on the channel, please sit back and relax!
I really like your format starting with a brief historical context, a substantive analysis of the current situation, and a short comment on what is known for the future. I feel more fully informed when I have all three of these.
"Designed to be about as easy to upgrade as a Clan Omnimech." I see what you did there, and I like it sir.
But does the People’s Liberation Army Naval Air Force have a Marine aviation unit? That performs a coast guard role?
Tch.
Yes
"On time and on, or under, budget?"
*DOUBT*
arent timeframe and budget kinda subjective anyway? like if i set a 99 year dev cycle and a 99 trillion dollar budget i'll always be on time and under budget (this is a shitpost)
Super Hornet enters the chat, despite US Navy moves.
@13:00 Perun, you crack me up! 'Just load some AMRAMs on the thing and declare MIG season open!' HAHAAhahaa
Channel update section is so stealthy even my super advanced optical sensors can't detect it.
I thought YT was still playing while my phone screen locked
"The P. L. Army Naval Airforce"
I'm feeling sick
Must be the sewer oil.
It's partly because terms don't translate 1:1. If you were to use a similar naming scheme for US, it would be something like National Defence Force's Naval Aviation.
So while the translation is "technically" correct, it doesn't read as insane in Mandarin.
When I heard that name, I was like "That's it, I'm having a stroke. Right here, right now."
@@lucidnonsense942 I want to trust your knowledge of Mandarin (because I have none), but isn't "People's Liberation Army" a thing? I mean, they are commies and that name seems historically grounded, so why would it translate to National Defense Force out of all things? I know Chinese is often weird that way, but that's a bit of a stretch, no?
@@lucidnonsense942 that thing you said would be a more english thing to label something was also something to feel sick over.
28:12 That Battletech reference caught me off guard. Well played XD
I liked the Battletech reference, its like getting sprinkles on top of your ice cream.😃
Thought in first 10min. Overestimating an opponent helps the military talk up its requirements, and helps industry sell things to meet those.
I see every reason for this to continue, and when budget is accommodating, this can happen extensively.
Thumbs up for the BattleTech reference! ;)
Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this video Perun! I’ve been following these videos since you started posting your power point presentation on war and defense. I couldn’t help but get a huge smile and rush to comment when I heard you make a Battletech reference! Thank you for that!
"As upgradable as a Clan Omnimech" Battletech mentioned! :D
Today I learned there is a precise pay chart just in case the IRS needs to borrow a B-2 from the Air Force... I'm going to go file my taxes.
"Taxation Rates enforced by Laser-Guided Bomb."
the buff is eternal
23:06: Missed opportunity to have the right-side picture cut to John Cleese at the desk in a "and now for something completely different" cutaway.
A note on the XB-70: Only one prototype survived the cancelled program. The other crashed spectacularly in a mid-air collision with one of the chase planes.
Thank you so much for putting out such solid content so consistently. Your production rate is crazy, just don't burn yourself out!
Sunday run with Perun! My favorite recharge activity!
So early that Perun was still a gamer
That stealth buff never fails.
Unless your bomb bay door is open and your an F-117
Damn those Serbs got lucky
Serbs will never be able to shut up about the ONE thing they shot down in the war that they got crushed in lmao
@ohitsrusher842 True The F-117 still hit its target which was a command post before it was shot down.
"More than a year ago...." Stares in disbelieve. Checks. Suddenly ages an entire year.
The rumor is that the first stealth bomber where so expensive that only 20 where built. So the next bomber series stealth bomber got the name B21.
Good morning Perun! - Love your voice and everything about your program. I hope you live a wonderful long life.
3K views in 7 minutes, JFC Perun you've made it
It's that time of the week again, cup of tea in hand.
That graphic about the operating costs of aircraft was wild to me. I worked on uh-60's and it's no wonder they were all beat to hell. Literally the cheapest aircraft the US military operates per flight hour
28:09 I never thought I’d hear a MechWarrior/Battletech reference in (relatively) normal media
Love that Perun!
Dearest Perun, the Buff is forever. That's why it's being modernized.
Buff is a well-understood platform with huge sunk costs that’s not even close to being worn out. Makes 100% sense to keep it going.
@@davidelliott5843 I wouldn't call them sunk cost when the current result is "This grand old lady is so physically bug-fixed now, and the training programs are so institutionalised now, that any attempt to build a new gigantic flying bomb truck is patently insane". The Buff even got it's mission profile extended as a transport plane, with the invention of BOCS containers that mount to the bomb bay hard points. Being able to carry 10k lbs worth of stuff a very long way is never not useful. I hope I live to see it's 100th year of service.
@@davidelliott5843 It helps that the B-52H was built after the DEW lines of radar were in place. It no longer was necessary to have them on airborne alert, so they spent their nuclear deterrence life sitting instead of flying around like the early models did.
G'day lads
G'day ladies.
G'day lads and ladies.
For the first time in years I'm working on Sundays and this is upsetting 😮💨
"...dial a JDAM whenever a bush looked at them funny..."😂🤣😅
Don't worry, there are MANY governments who have contracted for the Advanced Whistleblower Detection System, in fact it might be part of AUKUS.......
Bruhhh… I dunno how I stumbled across this. I don’t fish, I grew up skateboarding and to see anyone being gracious and humble about their sponsors resonates. We’re all keeping each other in business at the end. Keep being gracious.
Leroyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Jenkins!!!
I Love it. #StandWithKiwiland #StopEmuAggression
I love when Perun says "you gest it, B232" no Mr Australian man, I did not guess it
I literally pushed an hour long drive from last night to this morning so I'd have perun to accompany me
When I was playing Harpoon on the computer back in the day, Blackjack bombers were always top priority before they turned into a cloud of annoying missiles.
Notification gang!!
Always a great day when a Perun presentation drops
Mike Sparks is disapointed there still isn't a video about putting wings on tanks
Happy Sunday
Ahhhhh! Perun and my Sunday morning coffee. My day is complete!
I don't even get out of bed anymore until I've had Perunfast on Perunday...!! Great job as always.
If this keeps up, the B-52 production line is gonna be remade and restarted.
Thanks, Perun.
Litterally did a spit take when you said the B-21 was under budget.
When i was a kid i used to look forward to watching 20/20 on Friday. Now i look forward to PERUN uploads 👍
DAMN!!! Never been this early! My powerpoint senses were tingling!
+100 points for the Omni-Mech reference!
Grandpa Buff will never die
Would you glass me? I'd glass me
So pleased to have found this dude, happy PowerPoint Sunday