Digging Into 'The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover'

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  • Peter Greenaway is not an easy filmmaker to get into and, one suspects, that’s just the way he likes it. Given that his films are filled to the corners of every frame with detailed references to paintings, literature, theatre, natural history, and a plethora of inside jokes, his work has often attracted the charge of elitism. And that’s all before you get to his disapproval, sometimes even outright contempt, for cinema focused around narrative, text, and script. “All screenwriters should be shot,” he proclaimed his 2016 BAFTA interview ‘Peter Greenaway: A Life in Pictures’. He smiled as he said it, but he would clearly rather to shoot a phone book than someone else’s screenplay.
    His 1989 film The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover is savage and sadistic, beautiful and brilliant. Whether or not it functions as a metaphor for Thatcher’s Britain, as some claim, it certainly works as an expression of Greenaway’s style, and love, of art - fine art, to be precise. The framing tableaux, shifting swathes of colour, exhibition-style set decoration, and the wall-sized Frans Hals portrait looming over all proceedings all harks back to his lifelong desire to see “paintings with soundtracks”. And while Michael Nyman’s relentless score accompanies vast sections of the film, so too do the fearless performances of actors like Helen Mirren and Michael Gambon (anyone who knows him as gentle Albus Dumbledore from Harry Potter is in for a severe shock at a villain to rival Voldemort himself), and the gruesome, Jacobean-like revenge drama they enact... all while outfitted in costumes by Jean Paul Gaultier.
    It’s arguably this fusion of narrative alongside Greenaway’s image-based cinema that has made it - perhaps alongside The Draughtsman’s Contract - his most accessible and acclaimed feature. A filmmaker as uncompromising as Greenaway would doubtless claim that this proves his point, that audiences flounder without the safety net of story, and that’s why this film (and not, say, his multi-part, multimedia experience The Tulse Luper Suitcases) is his most popular work. But there’s an opposing argument: that image-based cinema needn’t dismiss narrative entirely. And surely a lover of symmetry like Greenaway might find something valid in such a counterbalancing claim.
    Watch Now: Greenaway’s The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover is now available for streaming through October 31, and Fandor has plenty of other favorites streaming 24/7 on our Greenaway Playlist!

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  • @CuShorts
    @CuShorts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Gambons performance here is so amazingly stunning. And, honestly, in my opinion, one of the greatest performances of all time.

  • @davidc5191
    @davidc5191 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yes, Zed and Two Noughts is an obsession with symmetry. As close to a completely abstract film as possible.

  • @nebojsasavic6262
    @nebojsasavic6262 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Most memorable moments in cinema are those in which a picture (shot) matches the sound (music) perfectly

  • @mournblade1066
    @mournblade1066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This is one of the most haunting films I have ever seen. Only David Lynch's _Blue Velvet_ and _Mulholland Drive_ come anywhere close. It sticks with me for days--sometimes weeks--after I watch it.

    • @fire.walk.with.me.430
      @fire.walk.with.me.430 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i feel like he and lynch are in a very unique category of filmmakers who are uncompromisingly themselves, they're totally different but have a similar sensibility for striking imagery and "moving paintings"

    • @davidc5191
      @davidc5191 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And more recently Coppola's Megalopolis, which was panned by critics, but if viewed as a Greenaway hommage it begins to make sense.

  • @timothythompson6343
    @timothythompson6343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    There is a reason why we refer to movies, cinema, film as the "motion pictures," sometimes. I find myself surprised that I agree with him...or that statement does not seem so bold to me that we needn't a "text-based cinema." I love me a good script and good acting, and they are elements that do contribute to some of my favorite films! But I think the medium of film is what is captured in the picture; that seems to be the most important thing. Great analysis of this film, too!

  • @jonahmad7237
    @jonahmad7237 6 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    If you haven't seen this wonderful masterpiece in film-making, you haven't lived. Simple as that.

    • @Vytautas4Xfiles
      @Vytautas4Xfiles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I saw this movie as a smal child (5-6?), the end scene where the lover is cooked and eaten is still stuck in my brain more than 25 years later (I'm 31 now). But I also recall the sadness and despair of the wife. Feelings in this move are presented in such pore and understandible way that even children are able to see and feel them.
      A very interesting movie indeed. An art, in moving pictures.

    • @hyrocoaster
      @hyrocoaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Vytautas4Xfiles puh, I think I would not have survived watching this movie at that age. I am 28 and I found it pretty hard to watch because of its brutality.

    • @cjeeeeee
      @cjeeeeee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was born today then

    • @darklp2703
      @darklp2703 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

    • @jonahmad7237
      @jonahmad7237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darklp2703 You okay hun?

  • @Preeno
    @Preeno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Michael Gambon's finest performance ever IMO

  • @Horror-Man
    @Horror-Man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of my favorite films of all time and one horror directors could learn a lot from.

  • @adarshjose3891
    @adarshjose3891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A movie which I will never forget probably as any other viewer

    • @Thesortvokter
      @Thesortvokter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People left the cinema in disgust at the first screening I went to, lol

  • @michelangelo713
    @michelangelo713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Kubrick echoes in his shot are clear; this is a masterpiece

    • @stewartbloomfield8035
      @stewartbloomfield8035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So agree.

    • @MrDarrylR
      @MrDarrylR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The lineage is really to Alain Resnais. Cinematographer Sasha Vierny, who shot most of Resnais's features from 1959 to 1984, notably Greenaway's favorite film Last Year at Marienbad, (1961), went on to shoot all of Greenaway's narrative features from A Zed & Two Noughts (1985) to 8 ½ Women (1999).

  • @Oldag75
    @Oldag75 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gambon absolutely dominated his every scene. I know it's sick to suggest this, but it must have been enjoyable for an actor to go wild and be such an evil loud villain.

  • @l0ok5ko0l
    @l0ok5ko0l ปีที่แล้ว +7

    R.I.P. Michael. You are much loved.

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    spoilers... i think I'm still gonna watch this movie. I feel like it's one of those movies good enough to not get ruined by spoilers

    • @CraigJClark
      @CraigJClark 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You are correct.

  • @GoreVidalComicbooks
    @GoreVidalComicbooks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I saw the film in Austin, Texas when it was released in the U.S. It was given a non-rating which was the equivalent of Rated X and most chain movie theaters couldn't show it. Art theaters or independent ones could if they chose to which where I saw this masterpiece of film making. I'd never seen a Greenway film before nor had head Nyman's music. From the opening credits with Nyman's score at full volume sitting in that movie theater was initially arresting and soon mesmerizing as the images appeared. I saw it multiple times, thinking I'd never see it ever again once it was gone from the theater. It remains one of my favorite films of all time.

    • @matildah7374
      @matildah7374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wonderful comment. I feel exactly the same. Greetings from Germany.

    • @GoreVidalComicbooks
      @GoreVidalComicbooks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@matildah7374 Thank you and best to you from Texas.

  • @pepsipimpin6010
    @pepsipimpin6010 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dumbledore had kind of a wild life before getting his tenure innit?

  • @DavidJSullivan8
    @DavidJSullivan8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done. One of the best ever made. Thank you.

  • @2FRESH-4U
    @2FRESH-4U ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was nine years old when my mom rented this movie and was like no censorship in my house

  • @Sean-wq5fg
    @Sean-wq5fg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely love this film. Unfortunately, I’ve never shown it to a friend or lover who appreciated it.

  • @bhedgepig9653
    @bhedgepig9653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch this film and see how people are often perfectly composed in threes. Along with the soundtrack, Then even twos and then back to threes again.
    Nyman and Greenaway are constantly working perfectly together.

    • @Stratmanable
      @Stratmanable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They haven't worked together for years. They had a falling out.

    • @bhedgepig9653
      @bhedgepig9653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Stratmanable Bit of a shame learning that. They were a good pair.

  • @rosemarycalogero7017
    @rosemarycalogero7017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I saw this movie when it came out and people were leaving ...I stayed a submitted myself to the torture! Loved the ending!

    • @deraykrause4517
      @deraykrause4517 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      haha same, I saw it twice and both times an older couple got up and left during the opening scene. Not sure what they were expecting as it was rated NC-17, but whatever.

  • @lrinconrubio
    @lrinconrubio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An absolute masterpiece.

  • @Numenor76
    @Numenor76 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "..paintings didn't had soundtracks" ...I was actually mesmerized almost by the soundtrack of "Taboo" TV Series. The music is always on spot, it has an a momentum and it always give you the sense of urgency when it needs to. It has this Sicario-like almost feel. Love it!

    • @vishalrana1552
      @vishalrana1552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought of correcting you but as a proceeded with reading a lot of them came up

  • @shellyboggs9093
    @shellyboggs9093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my top favorites

  • @cielodennis9204
    @cielodennis9204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love Peter Greenaway very deeply. He is a mad genious. Can anyone recomend me more filmakers like him? I love film masterpieces!

    • @cielodennis9204
      @cielodennis9204 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @apostolic Ive seen only two of these! Thank you so much for the list. I will watch the rest.

    • @robinllevine
      @robinllevine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cielodennis9204 Derek Jarman, Kenneth Anger, Jan Svankmajer, Guy Maddin, Masaki Kobayashi's Kwaidan, Bernardo Bertolucci's The Conformist. But there is nobody like Greenaway.

    • @codytierson845
      @codytierson845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ken Russell's The Devils gives me similar vibes.

    • @rodrigovalerosancho2234
      @rodrigovalerosancho2234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alexei German’s Hard To Be A God. And if you can handle it, try also Krustalyov My. Car.

    • @MrDarrylR
      @MrDarrylR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Greenaway is singular. Nobody else plays as many visual games.
      The modern director I see the most affinity in is Peter Strickland (The Duke of Burgundy, Berberian Sound Studio, In Fabric), who write similar arch dialogue, and whose films are all hermetic universes that don't really converse with most cinema. And Strickland too, is playing a game, though a still stranger one, of inventing the sort of background that could explain the behavior of characters in 70s exploitation and genre film.

  • @paulstein4164
    @paulstein4164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant..!!

  • @BrazyBlazer
    @BrazyBlazer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Masterpiece

  • @paulaharrisbaca4851
    @paulaharrisbaca4851 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Greenaway's films and Michael Nyman's soundtracks are a match made in heaven. Truly. And quintessentially British. And why the British are allowing their culture to be subsumed by morons who claim that British people and culture are not even a thing. Overwhelming the greatest country in the world for centuries with a people that have done very little but destructive and viciously jealous behavior in a country they claim to want to seek sanctuary from while promptly destroy everything they claim they fled here for, Christian goodwill, civil justice, open sharing of thoughts only to promptly create "no-go zones" and set up their own judicial system having nothing whatsoever to the British culture is ridiculous. That's why even liberal John Cleese abandoned his native land because it's not his anymore....

  • @lizzy1974
    @lizzy1974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Masterpiece!

  • @connorjh49
    @connorjh49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am i the only one that balled watching this movie, contrasting the horrific with the beautiful are the most effected films I’ve ever seen

    • @Stratmanable
      @Stratmanable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Bawled".
      "Affected"
      Or. "Effective".

  • @annabarr1304
    @annabarr1304 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw him speak once and he also said paintings show you a perspective you might not have imagined when you read the description

  • @boombang5750
    @boombang5750 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am normal boy of 21 century, I see Professor Dumbledore in the video thumbnail I click.

  • @boombang5750
    @boombang5750 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am an ordinary boy of 21 Century, I see Professor Dumbledore, I click.

    • @NSCretzu
      @NSCretzu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Holy shit, never connected the dots!

    • @Thesortvokter
      @Thesortvokter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NSCretzu lol

  • @JD-KMbr
    @JD-KMbr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hroooooooo THANK YOU! MASTER!

  • @knutkatastrophe2722
    @knutkatastrophe2722 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brillant

  • @Thesortvokter
    @Thesortvokter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This movie is just a fucking EXPLOSION!!!!!

  • @5hiv4Hulk
    @5hiv4Hulk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic. Love to see a video on 'Hiroshima Mon Amour'

  • @deadlegs187
    @deadlegs187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this.

  • @RubenVuittonet
    @RubenVuittonet 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have always thought this motion juxtaposes those who consider themselves "elevated" (read noble, high-minded, lofty) versus they way they deem to have got themselves that way.
    Modern history, especially, documents a fair number of thugs who deemed themselves holding (or having earned) niches in high society, without the inconvenience of distancing themselves from the means of their ascension.

    • @Stratmanable
      @Stratmanable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gosh. If it hadn't been for you I never would've been able to figure out what "elevated" means.
      You condescending, pseudointellelectual ballbag.

  • @liamsbackyard2635
    @liamsbackyard2635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Feel like Wes Anderson watched this

  • @dorissorana
    @dorissorana ปีที่แล้ว

    Ari Aster's inspiration for Hereditary

  • @aby110
    @aby110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very frustrating to watch but very cathartic ending (could've been a bit more brutal though)

  • @CuShorts
    @CuShorts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please Criterion PLEASE

  • @FredSmith110
    @FredSmith110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "In the beginning was the Word" is actually from St John's Gospel, which is the New Testament.

    • @Stratmanable
      @Stratmanable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everybody knows that.
      Idiot.

  • @sirlordhenrymortimer6620
    @sirlordhenrymortimer6620 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do a vedio on holy motors

  • @61Savagee
    @61Savagee 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you must add subtitle

  • @carolleenkelmann3829
    @carolleenkelmann3829 ปีที่แล้ว

    Different. Can't say I agree with him (Peter Greenaway.) but I like the ideas of "Art" and experimenting with canvases and colours he presents. Never saw this in the '80's and now Gambon has passed away, not that makes any difference to the film or filmmaking.

  • @jimmy66406
    @jimmy66406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fricassied mummies

  • @stewartbloomfield8035
    @stewartbloomfield8035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only director close to Stanley Kubrick.....there are no others...look at the tracking shots....everything like a painting. Stew fmj crew.

  • @harrygiles1779
    @harrygiles1779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where can i fine this movie?

    • @ernestoalmada2127
      @ernestoalmada2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peacock, it’s free. I downloaded it from TH-cam ads and found some hidden gems.

  • @weird_cds8206
    @weird_cds8206 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This movie ruined Albus Dumbledore for me forever, I can never watch Harry Potter 3--7 with the same eyes again.

  • @studywithmir1994
    @studywithmir1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    **SPOILERS**

  • @FilmThePoliceFTP
    @FilmThePoliceFTP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a strange movie

  • @mgmom1694
    @mgmom1694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad he will be spending eternity regretting every bit of it. In the beginning was the Word. Not an image.

    • @DeidreL9
      @DeidreL9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh?