Friday Freakout: Sketchy Parachute Opening, Skydiving Student Forgets Training
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A freefall-qualified military jumper was transitioning to civilian skydiving through the MFF Transition Program. Having prior training on ripcord-equipped gear, the student forgot his new training (throw and let go of the pilot chute) and reverted to his old training instead (hold on to the ripcord through the deployment process). The outcome was a cutaway and reserve deployment while still holding the ripc-, err, pilot chute in his hand.
When it comes to transitioning to new systems and gear, practicing pilot chute pulls on the ground is critical for a successful and safe transition.
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I know you can become attached to your gear but sometimes you just have to let go
😂😂😂😂😂
Well played dude 👌
Ahahahahahah belter
Devon Holmes dude, funny story you just reminded me of.
When we first bought this Japanese Mitsubishi 4x4 for our gliding school it came with all Japanese settings on the radio, and the Frozen CD stuck inside of the player.
Our courses run for ten days, and for the first two courses until one of our students somehow got the cd out I had ten guys singing ‘let it go, let it gooo’ for 20 fucking days straight haha
I almost forgot about that hahaha
Epic =)))))))))))))
Now I’ve seen everything, this occurrence never even entered my mind.
He was prior military freefall and was conditioned to hold the ripcord
@@bigblue207 I've done quite a few military-to-civilian transition trainings. It IS a big problem, one that requires a lot of retraining.
Would love to have seen the debrief on this one
Start of the debrief: First:You had a realy fast reaction for your reserve because you main wasent deploing. "Thank you what was the secound"
Secoundly: you d**** F**** havent you fn thought about f*** release the da** main chute
😅🤙🏼
Cringe
Bwaahahahaa, it would be like " this is a throw out, not a hold out"..lol
I bet the debrief started with those immortal words "FFS".
Bro! 😳 Whatching that reserve pilot chute dance in the burble with the bridle of the main in slow motion sent chills up my spine!
Jordan Tehero I have ZERO jumps under my belt but that will soon change as I'm a licensed professional pilot that is about to become Aerobatic certified as it's been a childhood dream of mine. When doing Aero you are REQUIRED to wear a chute so I will be jumping often. That way if that day actually comes there is zero hesitation and 100 percent concentration. And that scared the shit out of ME lol
DutchGreen Gaming Uhhhh, not like that. People have done parachuteless jumps with some sort of rigging system to hook into with plenty of altitude. There's noway the instructor could do that.
There's a recorded incident of a skydiver jumping without his rig on accidentally. No one else noticed it on the plane...once they all noticed in freefall, they tracked like their lives depended on it, because they did. I was told if he was able to grab a hold of someone they both would have died. I heard that story from a respected instructor. Moral, check your gears THREE times before jumping. Complacency KILLS!
Blue Skies!
@@KeepinYouUp07 So they discarded him or what?
That’s legit my ultimate fear in this, so far so good tho 👍🏻
Legend has it... he’s still hasn’t let go of the pilot chute.
l0l
this made my day
LMAO!!!!!!!!!
😂😂😂 lmao
😂😂😂
He's like "dafuq why am I still free falling?"
punkypine lol 😂
Hhaahahahhaah
Yea while looking at the instructor smiling 😂😂
This happens when you leave your rig with your ex wife and she puts super bonder glue on the hackey
Alvarezgen omg 😂
:))) u are nuts:)))))))))
Thats fucked up, man.
I read The coment and i laugh like a idiot :)))))))
True!
You would think someone that’s on coach jumps and can track, dock, roll and turn would know that he has to let go of his pilot chute for it to work.
The lesson here: old habits die hard!
Except for the forgotten throw-away, there is nothing to complain about. The jump and the reserve procedure looks good, especially for a 6th-jumps-student. Hell, he is even stable when both cutting the main and pulling the reserve. Shit, I've got 500+ jumps and I don't know if I would pull my reserve calm and stable like that.
I agree! Horrible situation but the EP sequence is spot on.
He’s probably military. That’s what I’m assuming.
Read the description,military free fall conversion to sport jumping. To me the really issue is ok he thinks it's a ripcord and keeps it but where does he think the main is after all that time.
@@antipropo461 maybe he thought he was container locked
Wow, his aerial form seemed very controlled for a student who couldn't remember to let go of his pilot chute. The description below the video made sense of that discrepancy.
He might have to do that AFF jump over again
Frank Aguanno 😂
Omg 😂 just maybe 🤔
I hope not :)
Gotta love the number of people who don’t read the damn description for these videos. The whole point is to learn from other people’s mistakes. How the hell can you learn if you have no idea what actually happened...
We had the same shit with a student at our drop zone. After a while he let the rip cord go, cuted away and pulled the reserve. 🤦🏻♂️😂
And on the evening: Beer, beer, beer, lovely lovely beer... 😂
@@MisterIvyMike at a dz I use to stay at as a kid there was a white board with who owes a carton. I remember seeing someone up to like 30 cartons. I wonder what they did.
Dozens of malfunction videos and injuries that I've seen, I think this beats them all. The last option was teetering on hopelessness. How do you not notice that pilot chute flapping around in your peripheral? I held on to every one of my rip cords and shoved them into a pocket (my instructor said I could trash the rip cords if I wanted), I was so psyched when I was able to pull the big boy throw out. Coaches should emphasize new info as best they can, for they might get a little lax with bro - to - bro interaction, to not come off as insulting their bro student's intelligence. Know when to get serious, know when to help your student relax.
Ripcord? My first tandem and Duanesburg New York, had a ripcord. When did you skydive? In the 80s?
This is what happens when you've been jumping on a ripcord and dont want to get a beer fine for loosing it...... just let go.... I kept saying to myself
I could see this happening to an old school jumper. Someone who was trained to pull a main ripcord. Forgetting throw out and let go.
I can only imagine that this is the very reason. This video imo shows that students should not train on one system and then swop to another. It's actually drilled into you to hold onto he ripcord. Student reacted well in pulling the reserve but it looked like the two pilot chutes almost got entangled. That's game over
Thank you for your service
Been jumping for 16 years and seen a lot of crazy shit but damn, that ranks WAY up there on the "What the hell were you thinking about!!??" list
I got a trick for you.
Always play the Disney Frozen song to a Military sky diver in transition before their jump.
Yes that song.
Underrated comment 😂
I thought for a second his reserve pilot chute was going to get tangled with the main one! That slow-mo was terrifying. Glad this guy was okay in the end. Did he hold onto the main pilot chute all the way down?
Probably still holding onto it
My guess is he trained with a ripcord… Never really thought there was a downside to that, but I guess this is one of them.
It's hilarious because if people in the comments section read the description, it actually makes perfect sense XD
Completely right haha
Hanging on to it for dear life. Lucky he didn't have a major tangle on the reserve pilot.
PDK O'Dude ya that would have been deadly
I was watching for the bridle to wrap around his leg as well.
You can laugh at me, but i did pull the cutaway puff instead of the main and waiting for something to happen on my No. 6 AFF jump. At least i did remember rule 1. : Do something! I do understand well that things can go wrong and there is not anyone to blame. You are student and you are under extreme stress - you may do things wrong... . First rule:
Do something - pull all you have is better then do nothing. ;-)
You may ask why i pulled the cutaway first... because i had a malfunction on the main the jump before and this expirience was in the brain... just did it again that way. Simple mistake, fatal outcome.
stollifa fatal outcome?
Nono, pulled the reserve some 1500feet above ground. That was a painfull opening out of terminal speed on a round reserve. Walked away with no injuries but some blue spots from the harnest. ;-)
stollifa *harness
thx mate
so you are the student in this this video?
I was waiting for the wrap.
This is the best student video ever.
"AAAAHHHH... PULL EVERYTHING... THROW IN THE TOWEL... WE'RE GOIN' DOOOOWN... oh, I know... THROW OUT EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE KITCHEN SINK!!!"
doesnt know how a parachute works
skydives anyways
I would like to see how did he land... He probably went from spring pilot chute to this one, regular.
I did exactly this on my AFF 1!!!!! But my instructor was close and she made me release it! It was only a one time mistake:)
Most mistakes in skydiving are usually a one time thing
OMG...not only does he not let go of the pilot chute, then he reckons that it is time to do his reserve drill while still holding onto the pilot chute...bwaaahaaahaaaa...holy crap...He is so used to hearing that if he loses the ripcord, he has to pay..lol..so this could be his throwout conversion as he is used to holding onto the ripcord..lol...Watch the cutaway handle fly..scary seeing the reserve pilot chute in tow...
Probably someone transitioning from ripcord to throw-out deployment. That's a big problem I have with ripcord mains, is that they necessarily create a training scar where there shouldn't be one.
I wish they would show videos of the debriefs lol
That was 4 years ago, hope some one kept an eye on that guy.
He didn't forget to let go, I bet you he didn't know that you are supposed it let go. He freaked when he saw that nothing was happening and pulled the reserve.
After watching these and realizing this is way more dangerous than I thought. I'm surprised the jump master doesn't have a carabineer on their harness that they can use to attach to a student who has screwed up all his shoots. I mean something like he can grab the kid and clip the student into his hardness like a emergency tandem hook up.
1. Solo gear isn't designed for two people. Quite apart from design strength and intent, there simply aren't properly designed-in attachment points for such a venture.
2. The instructor isn't trained on how to do that, even if it was a good idea (and it isn't).
3. A solo parachute, especially the kind likely to be worn by instructor, simply isn't designed to take the weight and speed of two people, and...
3a. If it survives the opening intact and without broken lines or torn fabric, and
3b. The two jumpers survive the opening shock, then...
3c. The landing speed both horizontally and vertically may well be so high as to at least injure both of them, likely seriously, if not kill them anyway.
Tandem skydiving gear is big and strong and bulky for a reason!
I'd dispute your "way more dangerous" statement as well - proper training, proper mental attitude, currency, and properly maintained and packed equipment and skydiving is just about as safe as it can be - but like most air / aviation sports, it is somewhat unforgiving of mistakes.
...and yes, I jumped for 20 years as instructor and tandem jumpmaster.
Whoa, Spangler! Enough with the insults!
Let me quess: "old" jumper got used to different release system went to AFF. In this different system to open container You just need to pull the handle. So he did. Stress plus old habits plus muscle memory gave the result we all seen. Correct me if i'm wrong.
You're correct
Ahh. Ye old case of where is my phone. Oh, I’m holding it.
asking as a non-sky diver...is it bad to deploy both chutes and why ?...thanks
Why is the bridle cord so long? On 60s gear the bridle cord was only about two feet long.
Always happens - when someone puts a Chinese finger trap at the end of your pilot chute!
he became an astronaut and he forgot to get in to the launcher
OMG that intro music is so on my nervs
He couldn't even pull his reserve handle with both hands because his right had was full (of hacky). You would think that would tip him off.
0:40 he is trying to put that back inside after his teacher warned him 😅😅
Hahahaja you made me shit my pants
Can you experienced skydivers explain to us who only fly the planes WHY he wouldn't let go of his pilot chute ?? Was that intentional, for a reason ?? I mean.. WTF ??
Really, held on to the pilot chute.
Weve had a fatality like that in the 80's. Girl whistled in all the way with the Pilot chute in her hand.
Is holding the pilot chute on purpose or is it stuck around his finger? If yes, WHY?
What a cluster. Lucky to have survived. Poor training or better to quit now while ahead?
Love to see some of your jump vids
No don't quit. Don't ever quit. Just start from scratch and relearn it.
Regardless of what, that's gotta be a moment that makes you about shit yourself.
Crikey...I need a drink...and I don't drink....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
That is horrific
I liked the roll 😁😁
Is this Raeford DZ?
JStazzy yup
What did I just watch. No… there’s no…. He didn’t….did he just…. Wait a second… he just…wtf 😆
That was a cluster fu** if I’ve ever seen one.
Great job! Except the last part.
oh now i know the reserve parachute will come out from top even when your main chute still in.
Never an issue with pull out...
That guy must have been so unbelievably scared that he was not even able to think, so he was stuck with the chute in his hand 🤔
couldn't he open his hand holding the orange pilot chute?
That's well into his AFF Training too.Wtf was he doing before!??...is he holding on every time😂😳
Ah geez, what a mess. Lucky it wasn’t a REAl malfunction
Sometimes you just have to let go
I am sorry to say, you can call me an old conservative, but I think that the AFF program should utilize systems with a spring-loaded pilot chute.
I don't jump so I'm trying to figure this out. He pulls his rip cord, but he holds onto it preventing the drogue chute from deploying and pulling out the main. He has a brain lock and holds onto that sucker and ends up deploying his reserve chute. Is that right? Amazing the guy didn't release the main chute too.
He did cut away the main but it didn't come out of the container until the reserve started inflating. The video ends, but I'm assuming that the no longer connected main fell away from the jumper (also assuming he finally let go of the pilot chute).
Dude I never jumped outside of a military jump but the dude just held on? That's what I'm gathering... but that's a level of dumb panic that's hard to grasp.
Could have been a giant horseshoe malfunction! Lucky guy.
Does he let go of the main PC before landing?
Unable to read the literature of your video because of ( forced & bouncing from the bottom ) advertisements by you tube .
He’s lucky to have survived that.
Да уж, эпично! Наверное был перепрыг или всетаки сдал?
He even pull cut away handel holding a pilot chute in the same hand 😂
How does one forget when its in his hand ? Maybe carpol tunnel ? Just could not open his hand. WTF ?
Did anyone else start thinking of the Frozen song...Let it go?
Surprised he didnt catch the reserves pilot chute with his left hand..
My man never let that shit go tho.
Could it have been caught on a ring?
that debrief would have been amazing
Did he just not let go or did he get his hand tangled up?
I would've loved to hear his intructor's debrief,
Any reason the reserve pilot chute floats around for a bit before doing its stuff?
I was just wondering this, it didn't look like it became entangled with the bridle
DavemacK II the reserve pilot chute was caught in the burble above the skydiver. He should have been trained (like that would do this guy any good!) to look over his right shoulder after reserve deployment to move the burble and let the pilot chute catch some clean air.
Randall Johnson you’re the reason why this sport is turning into a circus of asshats - he was a STUDENT. He made a MISTAKE. Ultimately, everything was fine. Hopefully, you aren’t an instructor. You’re probably just a 500 jump wonder who thinks you’re God’s gift to skydiving. Thank you for all you do for the sport... makes me feel safe, warm, and tingly. Blue skies.. or does that only apply to people that have over 10,000 jumps?
Wonder if he held on to the pic and didn't have to retrieve the main?
he thought he had a tandem ripcord rig
He's like nope ima play some hot potato
Didnt forget training, Forget to throw his pilot chute!!
Otherwise looked like a good jump
Что уж тут добавить... Забыл только сайперс отключить и нахуй кольцо запаски дернул...🙈🙈🙈
I'm guessing he practiced so much with the fake hackey during his static line jumps, that thought he needed to keep this hackey in hand as well.
Surprised he didn't try to grab his main, as it came out of the bag, so he could play with it.
That was very close to being a bounce.
so why he didn’t open his hand??
"Proper Instruction"....
He like very much the orange thing, that's why he keep holding it and no one can get it...
I’ve heard there are no stupid questions..... I shall test...As a avid obsessed jumper admirer, how close was he to entangling it all and meeting with an awful end?!?!??
forgets training? didn't get trained properly.
Try military trained
Damn, does he have glue in his hand?
That’s mind bottling.. like when your thoughts get trapped in a bottle (;
Blue skys, black death and a case of beer for his first malfunction.
I can imagine how desperate the instructor was. …
you had one job
What happened to natural selection? And i had high hopes
Sketchy? ya think?