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Thanks for sharing! Coud you share some details, even if in a short video, about the purge block and the "poops" (if it has), just to help users to choose the options avaliable actually (bambu, Prusa MMu3, etc) Keep up the good work, and congratulations for your humility, so difficult to see nowadays
I think a critical component of any video about new multicolor devices is a comparison of waste via poops and priming between other multi color devices (when the creator has access to multiple devices) it needs a few models of different complexities and colors.
I guess that is because it is a huge waste, and will be very slow too. As this is one heatblock printer. Obviously. Multitool printers can do that with little waste and very low delay.
@@thenextlayerI don't think it's that big of a deal. If you're doing multi color, you know it's going to happen. The print functions are huge, waste is not. Very neat their system is also a filament drier😊
Is there a way you can show us a NICE CLEAN Print? Every print had extrusion problems. I understand you had to deal with others slicing the files but every print having an issue IS an issue. These machines are not prototypes they have been gone through by the best techs and then sent to great tubers like you. I know it must be hard having to make an excuse for every below par print and having a CONTRACT that you can only say so much but it seems this product is not ready.
@@punk6119 I am wondering if the machine he is reviewing CAN make a clean print. Should I buy a machine that Cannot make a good print. This is WHY he is showing the machine. Also , gives a look into the ethics of the tuber.
@@tomyocom5886 I think it's the best he could do, seeing how it's a paid sponsorship. But if you're like yourself and I, then you've figured out what his review would be if not being paid 👎.
People really need to clarify that you are not getting 'Pantone' colored filament, you are getting 'Pantone Institute' filament, which is a marketing ploy that has absolutely zero to do with Pantone color matching system whatsoever. Those made-up colors that Anycubic gives you, do not have any PMS # equivalents. They're cute, but literally an admitted marketing gimmick, and nothing more.
Typical marketing. Very disappointing. I was looking at Anycubic's website and noticed it didn't mention a color code anywhere. Imagine being able to custom order matched Pantone colors.... This is a huge miss.
Yup, Pantone color institute creates colors for brands to use, so the only reason it is "Pantone" filament is because Pantone created the color for Anycubic.
So it is associated with the company it’s not completely made up, they consulted and worked with anycubic it’s just not part of the certified coded color system. I agree it’s misleading but this is something Pantone does for all kinds of companies. (Well that division of Pantone)
I do not know why these companies insist on creating their own slicers. They could've just spent that time integrating their colour engine into PrusaSlicer, which they've probably just reskinned anyway. If they just made it work with PrusaSlicer they would make so so much money
@@thenextlayer I know that, but when a product initially launches is the best time to get people to buy it. I don't understand why they'd even have bothered to create their own slicer when they know people won't use it. They've clearly done a good job with the hardware, so why release half finished software? They're shooting themselves in the foot
To be fair to Anycubic, my K2 had prusaslicer on the SD they sent with it, with no mention of the Anycubic slicer Im not sure why i got prusa with it but its the slicer im most comfortable with
"I do not know why companies insist on creating their own slicers. They could've just spent that time integrating their color engine into PrusaSlicer..." Ehm PrusaSlicer IS created by another 3d printem making company so I have taste of a double standard
@@marekvojta9648the problem is the profiles for Prusa slicer aren't available to the public. He got them sent to him. I am reviewing this printer too and it comes with their own Anycubic slicer. It's an update to the one on their site. So I believe the person is saying "why did they other putting resources into a 1.4 version when they could have just made a Prusa or orca profile in time for launch"
I bought the Kobra 2 Pro about six or seven months ago and it a super solid printer. I’ve got 495 hours on it and I’ve pushed nearly four kilometers of filament through it. It’s certainly a better machine than I thought I was getting
I hope when you do a full review you really compare the printers construction, color changing waste, and ease of use vs the bambu A1 combo. Their prices are close enough that im really wondering if the kobra3 is worth it. Sure it has a fillament dryer, but afaik the axis are just roller bearings not even liear bearings vs the A1's linear rails
Was the benchy so bad you didn’t want to show it? I mean it’s the whole reason to print it and it was sliced at the factory with their best settings you would assume. All the comments concerning others slicing for you and profiles not ready etc at least that is by them. I want to like the printer but as a non review video, if it’s so bad you don’t want to own a review about it, I’m not interested in owning the printer. It all looks good until it doesn’t. Thanks for the video and hope to see another when it’s ready for prime time.
I can't review it until the slicer and profiles are ready... and even still, I wouldn't review it based on a 12 minute benchy. Also, I'm not doing reviews anymore, because they're lose-lose...
how do you know it's a great printer? lol - also it poops off the right side the same way the BBL A1/A1mini poop off the left. It doesn't have a nozzle cleaner though as far as anyone can tell, vs the BBL models clean the nozzle as they exit their poop sled.
I was getting ready to get my first 3d printer. But with all these multi color printers coming out I guess I should wait a few more months to see what else is released before making a purchase. I know the k2 is getting coming out in July.
Idk how long you've waited, or how tight money is for you, but the best thing in my opinion to get into 3d printing is to just buy a 3d printer. At this point, new 3d printers have been regularly coming out for the last year or so, and holding off on buying one might just suspend you in the waiting phase forever.
get your first printer and learn to use it and troubleshoot print issues before going multi color. Even something turnkey like a bambu will require troubleshooting and setting adjustments at times
@@aleks138 I was kinda thinking about that, I was originally looking at the ender 3 v3 corexz. But I only have room for one printer, I actually have to make room for it. So I don't want to get something that I'll out grow, eventually I'd probably want the multi color stuff.
The fact they're looking to make the multicolor system compatible with other printers definitely makes it enticing, in addition to the fact that it's a filament dryer; hopefully they get the bugs worked out before too long, but I don't exactly have the capital to make one up at the moment anyway, so by the time that comes along it should be working fine :p
Ordered mine during the live stream event. Can’t wait for it to arrive. Thanks for showing some of the pre release stuff, not many videos out yet showing this printer working.
Thanks for the video, but it really left me wanting to know way more than you really went over. Being multi material, I have liked to actually see material changes and how much is wasted. Also, it didn't seem like any of the prints turned out to what would be considered good quality. Seems like there was an excuse for each issue. We all know it can take some dialing in a filament profile but should be able to get at least one type printing well. Left me very unimpressed with the performance of the machine.
Yeah that was an oversight. And yeah, this machine (software wise) wasn’t ready for a proper review, hence the first look. Sorry to disappoint!
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Thanks for the video, I am one of those who has made the leap into the void of buying this printer without knowing anything about it and currently there is a great lack of information about it :)
I don’t think these any of these prints look very good tbh….I know you were trying to be as polite as can be while still honoring your AnyCubic deal, but your words as a content creator mean something and somebody might pick this printer up based on your “review”. At some point you sell your soul for a few bucks. This does not look review ready at all…
Thought I was the being gaslit into thinking this is how all 3D prints look like though I’m pretty sure my Ender 3 Pro from like 4 years ago looked better before it died.
Please make a part 2 of this where you review the machine again with everything optimized and more importantly where you review the drawing capabilities of the material system and the amount of poop compared to other similar devices
"I couldn't tell where the pause was" - they're right there on the end of his feet! :-D . I would love to trick out my Anycubic Kobra Neo 2 with an ACE unit...
Sorry if I misheard, but did you say they were making it where you could add that ACE to other Anycubic printers? I am in the play area of McDonald's with my kid and the volume of the room exceeds the phone...lol Anyway, I am guessing a head replacement or something? I have a Kobra 2 Max and that would be wicked to print some behemoth full color toys/busts/robot parts...for my daughter of course...lol
I live in a very DRY environment, and from back in my PRUSA days, I always hated PETG. Stringing. But with the Bambu Lab and AMS I LOVE PETG. Now I hate PLA because it breaks in the AMS.
I have a X1C with AMS. I used a good amount of BL, Polymaker and eSun PLA (regular and matte), and didn't face any breaking. As far as I can tell, PLA breaking means it is brittle, so you probably have moisture/heat damaged and/or low quality filament. Or maybe you have any other ideas on why it could break?
I am glad that they are already creating support for Prusaslicer, because just starting out with multicolor printing I have noticed they are the best at blocking out colors. Hard to beat the best.
It would be realy nice if they would make the ACE unit available for 3rd party printers. Unlike ERCF, MMU2 etc. the ACE (and the AMS) actually have their feeders permanently engaged, as they sychronice the AMS/ACE feeder to the extruder (I disassembled the AMS-"buffer", turns out it uses a slider, a spring, a magnet and a hall-effect sensor). On the A1(lite) this actually is on the top. I am sure the Kobra 3 uses the same method. So it would be realy nice if it could be connected to klipper. Or even a Prusa mk4. If you have a printer with integrated nozzle/heatbreak combo and "normal flow" (like Revo, Nextruder and TUN), you get nice filament tip on unload, no need for cut&poo. This reduces not only waste but also changing times. So a printer with standard flow integrated nozzle/heatbreak combo do not need cut&poo. However, a MMU3, ERCF etc. is much harder to set up and can fail if the filament spools are not optimal placed. So combining the ACE/AMS with it´s easy filament handling with a printer with reliable unload ramping procedure and easy to change nozzle (insert high-flow nozzle for single-colour and standard-flow for multicolour) would be best of both worlds. For me personally, I would like to use the ACE with a Qidi X-Max3. That printer has a heated chamber, and I would realy like multicolour parts in ABS. Also of course the Sovol 08 might be a candidate. With the Revo coldend presented in another video, it should be able to change filaments without cut&poo if using a standard revo nozzle, while printing fast with high-flow revo. Combine this with a toolchanger (high flow nozzle for main colour in tool0, standard-flow nozzle in tool 1 with ACE connected, TPU in tool2 and support material in tool3) and the posibilitys are endless.
Totally honest, I am absolutely not interested in this printer. BUT I am interested in the MMU thing. That would be awesome if it would work with other printers. I don't really want to build something like the ECRF for my voron and also having a filament dryer built in seems nice
You are one of the reasons why I can't make my own videos. You are so GOOD at passing on information that it is scary. Your delivery is specially good. You are fast, concise and informative what else can you ask of a video. About this video the only thing missing was information about filament waste when printing multicolor, How does it compare to the Bambu Lab printers? Thanks for your work.
I appreciate that you say this is not a review but most people watching this are going to look at this video and see all the errors and form an initial opinion of this printer, RFID spools would have solved the temperature errors! if Anycubic wants to compete with Bambu Lab they needed to send out a finished machine for people to form an opinion on, the purging of the waste filament needs to be something better than flicking it, are users meant to sit by the machine catching filament purges whilst their part prints? of course, there will be a multitude of bins available to print for the waste purge but I can see them having ridiculously large back planes to stop flicked filament flying in semi random directions. I know that heat + magnets and magnetic fields are not a good combination and so I am curious how well the filament changers motors will stand up to the heat from the drying process. So far Im not impressed by this machine, no matter how much cheaper it is than a Bambu Lab printer.
75% humidity all year round? You must have at least one room with a dehumidifier, right? I don't print much with PETG anymore but I keep mine in vacuum bags with some desiccant. I keep my space below 40% humidity and between 26c-30c, never have any issues printing.
please answer the question "This printer can print ABS and other abrasive materials when you don't want to print in color, that is, directly from the spool to the extruder without the ACE PRO. And if I enclose it, could it print ABS, polycarbonate, or nylon?"
Ummm you’ll need a wear resistant nozzle to print ABS. But I see no reason why it couldn’t print ABS NYLON PC Etc if enclosed. Still, it’s not really intended for that. A properly enclosed printer might be better
I would like to buy a printer with a color changing system. It was actually supposed to be the Bambulab A1. Can the Kobra 3 keep up with the quality of the A1? greetings from Germany
Thanks gave me a bit more insight into which 3d printer to buy its between this Anycubic Kobra 3 and a Bambu PS1 The only thing which puts me off is the software for anycubic
If they can integrate the ACE with older printers, especially ender models, that will provide a much better value proposition. An open source multicolour unit with an orca slicer integration would be even better, as it could work with bambu...
Thanks for the review! my biggest complaint with AnyCubic is their lack of open source transparency and license violations. Maybe with the 3 series they will see the light.
I like it but I have 2 deal breakers: I outright refuse to use their slicer. Tried it and hate it. It MUST be fully compatible with existing kobra 2 (both Marlin and klipper versions). Until both of those terms are met I can't consider this to be something I'd spend money on.
How on Earth does any reviewer of multi color prints not show the purge system and waste it generates compared to other brands? Also, I will always be skeptical of any reviewer who is paid by the manufacturer of the product shown in the video. Yeah yeah i know "my opinions are my own" but really...if you are getting paid and want to get paid and sent products in the future, are you really going to be that critical? And those prints don't look all that great either.
My Kobra 3 Combo arrived yesterday. But they didn't have a slicer for non-windows-users. Now I have to find a friend with a windows pc. 😭 I wrote anycubic about it and hope they'll release a profil in the next days
I like the idea of combining a filament driver with an AMS like system. I have a single Bambu printer and am too used to the ease of printing Bambu offers. I don't see myself getting into another brand anytime soon.
Its an A1 clone (clearly) and the 8 color isn't out yet for it. Do note that the Bambu A1 does have an extra AMS port on its back, so it does look like they are planning on adding in support for a 2nd AMS Lite or support for two normal AMS systems.
Love the little filament icons to denote which filament is being used on screen, but would love if the color of the roll roughly matched the color of the filament, especially when there are multiple at once so you don’t have to pause it to read through them all and figure out which is the blue and which is the orange and which is the brown
Innovation drives up the price, my guy. I don't mind the "repetition", as long as it works and is affordable right now. This could mean real competition. That, on its own, will bring up innovations.
Houston is one of the hottest places I’ve ever been. And it’s like 90 square miles of concrete and asphalt baking in the sun on top of it. I’ll take my 73% average humidity any day of the week
I really love your channel but I have to say this seemed like you REALLY wanted to like this printer and made every excuse for it. Every time it did something bad. You blamed something other than the printer. Your room, or the filament or the rotation of the earth. I really think you should think twice about doing a review of a product in the same video that the manufacturer is sponsoring. It’s one thing to accept a free printer it’s another thing entirely to review it when they are sponsoring the video. Please keep your integrity and do better in the future.
I felt the same way... even though it clearly said it is sponsored, it got me confused with his enthusiastic response to a bad print and for a moment there it felt like a review. I click to the thumbnail hoping his opinion will help me decide to buy this machine but now I am hesitant until I see a proper review. No hate here as I love his content so far, just hope it will improve on the future on how sponsors videos are set.
Ya seriously, I know this isn’t a fair assessment but when your spending ≈$1000 another $160 probably isn’t the end of the world for a dedicated appliance
@@yinzerinsteelersnation4695 I am designing my own filament drier right now actually, it's such an easy thing to make, abstractly, all you need is a heater and a mosfet, but I assume the reason Bambu did not do this is that AC Is dangerous and a pai. DC would mean needing a beefier power supply. Still, you can make a great one even with a 50w element. Mine is 100w for a big food container much bigger than the AMS
The K3 is in the Anycubic Slicer. I have been testing out several printers and realize what I want to see in a review is how easy is it to set up the network and print from my laptop. Using Fluidd if possible. There always seems to a trick to it. PS Sorry you get so many negative comments.
Sorry, anycubic has locked down klipper firmware, only way to print is on their app or USB stick. I have the kobra2pro, they don't do anything to address users concerns.
Dude it’s a GAME changer. My vorons all have lines all over the print from slathering on glue stick, but with this stuff, it’s imperceptible and it sticks like you wouldn’t believe e
I can't wait to have multicolor with the ace pro on my Anycubic Vyper. Hopefully it'll allow installation with klipper because I installed klipper. I also use that same gamestop camera for my printer 6:44!
Now if they make the head and multicolor swappable to say the 2max... that would be awesome I'd buy it to upgrade my max. Bulk multicolor cuts down.on waste
What about the poop? Looks like the poop wiper is on the right side over the screen. Is there a poop bin adapter stl for it? Looks like the poop could get on the bed and get in the way of the print.
Is there anyway you or anyone could ask Anycubic if they will be bring out a larger version of this printer? Because what I dont want todo is order this printer and then in a few days or weeks they bring out a larger one😡😡 I have tried emailing them with little response.....
Try Elegoo Rapid PETG. I have been getting fantastic results with it, and I like you had a hate/hate relationship with it prior to this filament. Their Rapid PLA + is also awesome and they are pretty much all I use now, unless I need a silk. I am hoping they add some silks to the lineup eventually.
do the AMS style systems just recognize they are plugged in or how do the AMS and the printer communicate :) i have never had an AMS style printer and im looking at getting one at some point once bugs and stuff are fixed
Hi, can you also do multi-color TPU prints with this? I am looking to print with the soft Recreus 82A filament, but the bambu lab AMS cannot handle TPU and it would be cool if this one could.
No filament changer can use normal TPU. The filament changer has to push the filament through the tube to the head - and TPU is to flexible to do that. Even the Prusa XL has problems with feeding TPU through the reverse bowden. However, after you got it in manualy, it works, as the XL is a multitool printer and the filament isn´t changed but the tool. But: There is always VarioShore, a filament wich shore hardnes changes after heating, depending of nozzle temperature. The filament on the spool is nearly as stiff as PET-G, so it might work with filament changers. By setting the nozzle temperature you can adjust the shore hardness. With this filament you can get incredibly soft TPU using higher temperatures - a filament having theese softness from the start would not be printable with any normal extruder. So you might search for some videos about VarioShore.
@@oleurgast730 Hi thank you so much for the answer to my comment. I had never heard of VarioShore and I am just looking it up. I will definitely test this one.
"I can't print PETG".... Proceeds to try and print ASA unenclosed 🤦♂️ Decent enough intro/spotlight video for the printer, but it is completely lacking in any real substance (IE technical details) that would lead me to actually consider buying it. Just felt like a whole lotta fluff, and I guess that's all a paid/sponsored, early-release video can be...
Yeah, but honestly, that's become common practice in the tech industry these days. Hardware is done, they start marketing and shipping, and fix the software while it's en route. I don't like it any more than you do, but everyone from Tesla to Rabbit are doing it... heck, even Apple is shipping the Vision Pro with like, only a handful of apps in the app store that actually work on it.
@@thenextlayerI can understand but that doesn't mean that I will accept it. A lot of people here in Greece are smokers. That doesn't mean that I will start to smoke because it is acceptable and common to do. I don't look what others do and I don't care. This is wrong and should be criticized despite the fact that it is common. I still remember the days without early access to video games where I would buy one and it would be in an almost perfect state. Now even 3d printers have early access! I believe as a TH-camr/influencer you should have done a better job talking about this fact. My dislike that I pressed was because of this. I don't say you are the only one that does this and please don't take it personal. Sanladerer did it as well with the peopoly 3d printer.
Worked great until it broke after a week...the advertised anti-clog detection system didn't shut it down when it got clogged up so the printer kept shoving filament into the print head assembly, freezing it to the track so that we couldn't disassemble it to clean it out. Returned it for a refund.
For me this review kinda ruined your reputation, which is very sad to see. It was clearly rushed, important details (like amount of poop, filament swap times, etc.) are missed (intentionally?), actually terrible quality presented as "nice"... Everyone will make a very reasonable assumptions why so much balls were dropped...
You had me at 'print resume' working properly...electrical power is not 100% where I live! We get 2-10 second outages on most week-days...my apartment is on the same substation as an industrial park...so we get power fluctuations during the work-day with the occasional drop-out. I almost got the Kobra 3, decided I didn't need multicolor....went with the kobra 2 pro instead. Crazy-fast printing, I had to put a paving-stone on the table to stop it from shaking!
Yes I have a 1800watt UPS and it keeps my printer going for about 1-2hours when I have a powercut... Plus I have a generator, so if the power is out over a longer period I just need to get the generator started you before the batteries die.
Sell out, I'll wait for the legitimate reviews from people who are paying for these units. I have several Bambu lab and Anycubics and the Anycubic printers are not dialed in at all, and the slicer is dire! i hope they catch up soon but at the moment they feel like they're rushing to catchup rather than refining their products BEFORE releasing them!!
Just thought I would add my 5p’s worth to this video. My 9yeat old cocker spaniel squats down and lifts her rear leg to pee! As for the printer and anycubic. Bambu seem to be a bit scared. They have kept the sale price on the a1 with combo as people seem to be trying this printer out.
OH man this looks a lot bigger then i thought. i may have to cancel my order. Not sure it will fit where i had intended to set it😥. But if they can get that AC E to work on none Anycubic that would be sweet. One thing i misread on the buy page. I read Pantone color exclusive camera as one item. so the whole time i though they were going to get the pantone camera, and that thing is sweet. oh well .
All those prints look awful, like first gen 3d prints awful. That makita top surface needs alot of work. Looks like this printer is nowhere near primetime.
Can't call it prints like crap when it is a paid video right ? What about this new trend of selling and releasing then fixing things up ? Make it at least print nice then sell it ...
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Thanks for sharing!
Coud you share some details, even if in a short video, about the purge block and the "poops" (if it has), just to help users to choose the options avaliable actually (bambu, Prusa MMu3, etc)
Keep up the good work, and congratulations for your humility, so difficult to see nowadays
I think a critical component of any video about new multicolor devices is a comparison of waste via poops and priming between other multi color devices (when the creator has access to multiple devices) it needs a few models of different complexities and colors.
Yeah, that was a huge oversight in my video.
@@thenextlayer even in a community post or short that data would be fantastic
I guess that is because it is a huge waste, and will be very slow too. As this is one heatblock printer. Obviously. Multitool printers can do that with little waste and very low delay.
Huge agree
@@thenextlayerI don't think it's that big of a deal. If you're doing multi color, you know it's going to happen. The print functions are huge, waste is not. Very neat their system is also a filament drier😊
Is there a way you can show us a NICE CLEAN Print? Every print had extrusion problems. I understand you had to deal with others slicing the files but every print having an issue IS an issue. These machines are not prototypes they have been gone through by the best techs and then sent to great tubers like you. I know it must be hard having to make an excuse for every below par print and having a CONTRACT that you can only say so much but it seems this product is not ready.
Yeah the degree of Z-banding on the dog reminds me of when I was running printers with axial rods instead of lead screws.
You can ask for a clean print, or see a real print and judge for yourself if the quality is there. And it doesn't look good.
@@punk6119 I am wondering if the machine he is reviewing CAN make a clean print. Should I buy a machine that Cannot make a good print. This is WHY he is showing the machine. Also , gives a look into the ethics of the tuber.
@@tomyocom5886 I think it's the best he could do, seeing how it's a paid sponsorship. But if you're like yourself and I, then you've figured out what his review would be if not being paid 👎.
And that's why no one should even bother looking at it. Bambu Labs has shit figured out, this is just "not so cheap" copy.
9:56 “nice” so we’re ignoring that top surface
right??
Remember he is getting paid XD
That's a horrendous print.
omg... thats horrible
@@MakerAventuras Like you having to pay your mother for hummers?
@@georgeovel6423 atlest his mom is gettin paid, your mom is out here humming pro-bono
People really need to clarify that you are not getting 'Pantone' colored filament, you are getting 'Pantone Institute' filament, which is a marketing ploy that has absolutely zero to do with Pantone color matching system whatsoever. Those made-up colors that Anycubic gives you, do not have any PMS # equivalents. They're cute, but literally an admitted marketing gimmick, and nothing more.
Typical marketing. Very disappointing. I was looking at Anycubic's website and noticed it didn't mention a color code anywhere. Imagine being able to custom order matched Pantone colors.... This is a huge miss.
On my order I asked them and they said Im getting the pantone colored filament but its random which of the 4 colors you get shipped.
Yup, Pantone color institute creates colors for brands to use, so the only reason it is "Pantone" filament is because Pantone created the color for Anycubic.
Good to know and not intuitive! Thanks!
So it is associated with the company it’s not completely made up, they consulted and worked with anycubic it’s just not part of the certified coded color system. I agree it’s misleading but this is something Pantone does for all kinds of companies. (Well that division of Pantone)
I do not know why these companies insist on creating their own slicers. They could've just spent that time integrating their colour engine into PrusaSlicer, which they've probably just reskinned anyway. If they just made it work with PrusaSlicer they would make so so much money
They're going to make it work with PS and OS
@@thenextlayer I know that, but when a product initially launches is the best time to get people to buy it. I don't understand why they'd even have bothered to create their own slicer when they know people won't use it. They've clearly done a good job with the hardware, so why release half finished software? They're shooting themselves in the foot
To be fair to Anycubic, my K2 had prusaslicer on the SD they sent with it, with no mention of the Anycubic slicer
Im not sure why i got prusa with it but its the slicer im most comfortable with
"I do not know why companies insist on creating their own slicers. They could've just spent that time integrating their color engine into PrusaSlicer..." Ehm PrusaSlicer IS created by another 3d printem making company so I have taste of a double standard
@@marekvojta9648the problem is the profiles for Prusa slicer aren't available to the public. He got them sent to him. I am reviewing this printer too and it comes with their own Anycubic slicer. It's an update to the one on their site. So I believe the person is saying "why did they other putting resources into a 1.4 version when they could have just made a Prusa or orca profile in time for launch"
Its nice to see a company roll out a filament changer that has a filament dryer and is not so proprietary.
How is it not equally as proprietary as the Bambu AMS? Can I use it with other printers?
@@TheKingOfSpain He mentions they said they intend that, yes.
I bought the Kobra 2 Pro about six or seven months ago and it a super solid printer. I’ve got 495 hours on it and I’ve pushed nearly four kilometers of filament through it. It’s certainly a better machine than I thought I was getting
Nice video, would of liked to see more videos of the colour changing and how anycubic deals with purging. Thanks
Yeah I don't know how I forgot to do that. My bad.
I bet there are plenty of people waiting for a Kobra 3 Max!
Hadn't thought of that, but yeah, that would be awesome.
Kobra 3 Plus will come soon then maybe a Kobra 3 Max.
I hope when you do a full review you really compare the printers construction, color changing waste, and ease of use vs the bambu A1 combo. Their prices are close enough that im really wondering if the kobra3 is worth it. Sure it has a fillament dryer, but afaik the axis are just roller bearings not even liear bearings vs the A1's linear rails
finally someone how shows some multicolor prints!
This is what I’ve been looking for
But not while it's printing... I don't see the multi filament system or purge process anywhere in this video
What about auto-levelling and z-offset? Did I kinda miss it?
Was the benchy so bad you didn’t want to show it? I mean it’s the whole reason to print it and it was sliced at the factory with their best settings you would assume. All the comments concerning others slicing for you and profiles not ready etc at least that is by them. I want to like the printer but as a non review video, if it’s so bad you don’t want to own a review about it, I’m not interested in owning the printer. It all looks good until it doesn’t. Thanks for the video and hope to see another when it’s ready for prime time.
I can't review it until the slicer and profiles are ready... and even still, I wouldn't review it based on a 12 minute benchy. Also, I'm not doing reviews anymore, because they're lose-lose...
Adding a heater into the box is AND a buffer is super smart. Excited to see what they do with it.
hey this is a great printer. I have a dumb question lol. How does the purging occur, i didnt see any purge block or "poop" as the bambu users call it
Poops out the right side. I’m embarrassed that I forgot to show or mention that. It flicks poop. There’s also a priming tower
It poops off to the right
How can you say it is a great printer? you haven't seen it working very well up to press!
how do you know it's a great printer? lol - also it poops off the right side the same way the BBL A1/A1mini poop off the left. It doesn't have a nozzle cleaner though as far as anyone can tell, vs the BBL models clean the nozzle as they exit their poop sled.
So you think an extra $110 and NO DRYER is worth getting a little rubber foot? 😂🤣😂😂@@aeonjoey3d
I was getting ready to get my first 3d printer. But with all these multi color printers coming out I guess I should wait a few more months to see what else is released before making a purchase. I know the k2 is getting coming out in July.
Idk how long you've waited, or how tight money is for you, but the best thing in my opinion to get into 3d printing is to just buy a 3d printer. At this point, new 3d printers have been regularly coming out for the last year or so, and holding off on buying one might just suspend you in the waiting phase forever.
get your first printer and learn to use it and troubleshoot print issues before going multi color. Even something turnkey like a bambu will require troubleshooting and setting adjustments at times
@@aleks138 I was kinda thinking about that, I was originally looking at the ender 3 v3 corexz. But I only have room for one printer, I actually have to make room for it. So I don't want to get something that I'll out grow, eventually I'd probably want the multi color stuff.
What did you use for a layer height? Personally, I think those prints look terrible.
0.2, and yeah, as I mentioned, Profiles are far from dialed in
@@thenextlayer thanks for the response. 😁
This is the video I’ve been needing! I’m wondering if this is better than a bambu A1, and this vid has helped loads on forming my opinion
I don't have an A1, so fortunately, I don't have to navigate the potential bias of recommending a sponsor's product vs. another product... heh!
@@thenextlayer That’s always a good thing in my experience!
The fact they're looking to make the multicolor system compatible with other printers definitely makes it enticing, in addition to the fact that it's a filament dryer; hopefully they get the bugs worked out before too long, but I don't exactly have the capital to make one up at the moment anyway, so by the time that comes along it should be working fine :p
until now kobra 2 max still not yet in orca slicer stable update, you have to manually create and tune it. I really doubt on their progress.
Thanks for letting me know... that is troubling.
@@thenextlayer Might try the A1 profile.
If i was ever considering buying one of these I certainly wouldn't now!! that print quality is shocking!!
Ordered mine during the live stream event. Can’t wait for it to arrive. Thanks for showing some of the pre release stuff, not many videos out yet showing this printer working.
No sweat, hope you like it.
Thanks for the video, but it really left me wanting to know way more than you really went over. Being multi material, I have liked to actually see material changes and how much is wasted. Also, it didn't seem like any of the prints turned out to what would be considered good quality. Seems like there was an excuse for each issue. We all know it can take some dialing in a filament profile but should be able to get at least one type printing well. Left me very unimpressed with the performance of the machine.
Yeah that was an oversight. And yeah, this machine (software wise) wasn’t ready for a proper review, hence the first look. Sorry to disappoint!
Thanks for the video, I am one of those who has made the leap into the void of buying this printer without knowing anything about it and currently there is a great lack of information about it :)
I don’t think these any of these prints look very good tbh….I know you were trying to be as polite as can be while still honoring your AnyCubic deal, but your words as a content creator mean something and somebody might pick this printer up based on your “review”. At some point you sell your soul for a few bucks. This does not look review ready at all…
Pretty poor quality prints imo also. Poor z height ?
Thought I was the being gaslit into thinking this is how all 3D prints look like though I’m pretty sure my Ender 3 Pro from like 4 years ago looked better before it died.
The multicolor unit for any printer would be amazing
Please make a part 2 of this where you review the machine again with everything optimized and more importantly where you review the drawing capabilities of the material system and the amount of poop compared to other similar devices
"I couldn't tell where the pause was" - they're right there on the end of his feet! :-D . I would love to trick out my Anycubic Kobra Neo 2 with an ACE unit...
I just hope that they let the ACE work with the Kobra 2 Max.
My exact thoughts ! I can’t wait to see the retrofit kit to upgrade my K2 Max ! Can you imagine doing a 8 color print on that monster ?
Sorry if I misheard, but did you say they were making it where you could add that ACE to other Anycubic printers? I am in the play area of McDonald's with my kid and the volume of the room exceeds the phone...lol Anyway, I am guessing a head replacement or something? I have a Kobra 2 Max and that would be wicked to print some behemoth full color toys/busts/robot parts...for my daughter of course...lol
You heard him correctly! Can't wait to add one to my k2p!
Not just other Anycubic printers......Other brands as well
Should I regret spending 2k aud on the x1 carbon over this which also has levelling and multi colour and speed?
I live in a very DRY environment, and from back in my PRUSA days, I always hated PETG. Stringing. But with the Bambu Lab and AMS I LOVE PETG. Now I hate PLA because it breaks in the AMS.
I have a X1C with AMS. I used a good amount of BL, Polymaker and eSun PLA (regular and matte), and didn't face any breaking. As far as I can tell, PLA breaking means it is brittle, so you probably have moisture/heat damaged and/or low quality filament. Or maybe you have any other ideas on why it could break?
I am glad that they are already creating support for Prusaslicer, because just starting out with multicolor printing I have noticed they are the best at blocking out colors. Hard to beat the best.
It would be realy nice if they would make the ACE unit available for 3rd party printers. Unlike ERCF, MMU2 etc. the ACE (and the AMS) actually have their feeders permanently engaged, as they sychronice the AMS/ACE feeder to the extruder (I disassembled the AMS-"buffer", turns out it uses a slider, a spring, a magnet and a hall-effect sensor). On the A1(lite) this actually is on the top. I am sure the Kobra 3 uses the same method.
So it would be realy nice if it could be connected to klipper. Or even a Prusa mk4.
If you have a printer with integrated nozzle/heatbreak combo and "normal flow" (like Revo, Nextruder and TUN), you get nice filament tip on unload, no need for cut&poo. This reduces not only waste but also changing times. So a printer with standard flow integrated nozzle/heatbreak combo do not need cut&poo. However, a MMU3, ERCF etc. is much harder to set up and can fail if the filament spools are not optimal placed.
So combining the ACE/AMS with it´s easy filament handling with a printer with reliable unload ramping procedure and easy to change nozzle (insert high-flow nozzle for single-colour and standard-flow for multicolour) would be best of both worlds.
For me personally, I would like to use the ACE with a Qidi X-Max3. That printer has a heated chamber, and I would realy like multicolour parts in ABS. Also of course the Sovol 08 might be a candidate. With the Revo coldend presented in another video, it should be able to change filaments without cut&poo if using a standard revo nozzle, while printing fast with high-flow revo. Combine this with a toolchanger (high flow nozzle for main colour in tool0, standard-flow nozzle in tool 1 with ACE connected, TPU in tool2 and support material in tool3) and the posibilitys are endless.
Totally honest, I am absolutely not interested in this printer. BUT I am interested in the MMU thing. That would be awesome if it would work with other printers. I don't really want to build something like the ECRF for my voron and also having a filament dryer built in seems nice
You are one of the reasons why I can't make my own videos. You are so GOOD at passing on information that it is scary. Your delivery is specially good. You are fast, concise and informative what else can you ask of a video.
About this video the only thing missing was information about filament waste when printing multicolor, How does it compare to the Bambu Lab printers? Thanks for your work.
Well I'm long time viewer, never a comment-er but you sold me I ordered one. your order N2************
I appreciate that you say this is not a review but most people watching this are going to look at this video and see all the errors and form an initial opinion of this printer, RFID spools would have solved the temperature errors! if Anycubic wants to compete with Bambu Lab they needed to send out a finished machine for people to form an opinion on, the purging of the waste filament needs to be something better than flicking it, are users meant to sit by the machine catching filament purges whilst their part prints? of course, there will be a multitude of bins available to print for the waste purge but I can see them having ridiculously large back planes to stop flicked filament flying in semi random directions.
I know that heat + magnets and magnetic fields are not a good combination and so I am curious how well the filament changers motors will stand up to the heat from the drying process.
So far Im not impressed by this machine, no matter how much cheaper it is than a Bambu Lab printer.
Babu Labs just shoot out poop, have you complained to them about unfinished printers?
75% humidity all year round? You must have at least one room with a dehumidifier, right? I don't print much with PETG anymore but I keep mine in vacuum bags with some desiccant. I keep my space below 40% humidity and between 26c-30c, never have any issues printing.
i didn't even found the win version of their new slicer😥
Well, I foubd a video I cant watch with my 3 and half year old son... He already wants Dad to buy two tractors for him. Lol
Does the MMU share the same concern with the AMS in regards to cardboard spools degrading over time?
I think any cardboard spool rolling that much back and forth will degrade in any system that uses the edge
AnyCubic said during the live stream that cardboard spools are totally acceptable in their MMU.
please answer the question
"This printer can print ABS and other abrasive materials when you don't want to print in color, that is, directly from the spool to the extruder without the ACE PRO. And if I enclose it, could it print ABS, polycarbonate, or nylon?"
Ummm you’ll need a wear resistant nozzle to print ABS. But I see no reason why it couldn’t print ABS NYLON PC Etc if enclosed. Still, it’s not really intended for that. A properly enclosed printer might be better
Please do another video when the software is better and sliceing profiles a dialed in. Super interesting printer combo and I want to see more on it
I would like to buy a printer with a color changing system. It was actually supposed to be the Bambulab A1. Can the Kobra 3 keep up with the quality of the A1? greetings from Germany
Well, I don't have the final profiles, so it's hard to say, but, hardware-wise, it should be able to keep up with that.
No, copy is copy, Bambu the best.
@@thenextlayer Thank you for the quick answer
@@thorstenarndt7585 Bambu is on offer from tomorrow so no need to think about it now
Thanks gave me a bit more insight into which 3d printer to buy its between this Anycubic Kobra 3 and a Bambu PS1 The only thing which puts me off is the software for anycubic
I hope the ACE will work with Klipper eventually
If they can integrate the ACE with older printers, especially ender models, that will provide a much better value proposition. An open source multicolour unit with an orca slicer integration would be even better, as it could work with bambu...
did they release it in orca slicer?
Thanks for the review! my biggest complaint with AnyCubic is their lack of open source transparency and license violations. Maybe with the 3 series they will see the light.
does it run klipper?
Its probably locked down klipper, so you can't do anything on the firmware side. The kobra2 pro and max are the same way.
Merhaba flament kullanımı nasıl? Bambu gibi çok atık filament çıkartıyor mu
I like it but I have 2 deal breakers: I outright refuse to use their slicer. Tried it and hate it. It MUST be fully compatible with existing kobra 2 (both Marlin and klipper versions). Until both of those terms are met I can't consider this to be something I'd spend money on.
I agree, they promised me it’ll be 1000% compatible with orca and Prusa so that’s good
How on Earth does any reviewer of multi color prints not show the purge system and waste it generates compared to other brands? Also, I will always be skeptical of any reviewer who is paid by the manufacturer of the product shown in the video. Yeah yeah i know "my opinions are my own" but really...if you are getting paid and want to get paid and sent products in the future, are you really going to be that critical? And those prints don't look all that great either.
I literally said multiple times that this is not a review. It’s a sponsored video.
Love your videos, waiting for mine to come in
My Kobra 3 Combo arrived yesterday.
But they didn't have a slicer for non-windows-users.
Now I have to find a friend with a windows pc. 😭
I wrote anycubic about it and hope they'll release a profil in the next days
They’ll release orca profiles soon
I like the idea of combining a filament driver with an AMS like system. I have a single Bambu printer and am too used to the ease of printing Bambu offers. I don't see myself getting into another brand anytime soon.
Its an A1 clone (clearly) and the 8 color isn't out yet for it. Do note that the Bambu A1 does have an extra AMS port on its back, so it does look like they are planning on adding in support for a 2nd AMS Lite or support for two normal AMS systems.
Love the little filament icons to denote which filament is being used on screen, but would love if the color of the roll roughly matched the color of the filament, especially when there are multiple at once so you don’t have to pause it to read through them all and figure out which is the blue and which is the orange and which is the brown
Innovation drives up the price, my guy. I don't mind the "repetition", as long as it works and is affordable right now. This could mean real competition. That, on its own, will bring up innovations.
Can you talk about the software? I've found it's both awful and not available on the Mac.
I guess my Anycubic Vyper will be too old to get support for the ACE but if not I definitely will buy an ACE unit
At the moment getting the combo is way cheaper than buying the two parts separately.
75% humidity, bless your heart, try 96% humidity in Houston Texas 😂
I didn't even know that's a thing.
Surely that's just swimming 😅
Houston is one of the hottest places I’ve ever been. And it’s like 90 square miles of concrete and asphalt baking in the sun on top of it. I’ll take my 73% average humidity any day of the week
Florida man checking in. Also routinely above 90% humidity. I bought one of the sunlu 4 spool driers before i even bought my first printer. 🤣
@@jordankiser8435 You know you can actually live somewhere else.
I really love your channel but I have to say this seemed like you REALLY wanted to like this printer and made every excuse for it. Every time it did something bad. You blamed something other than the printer. Your room, or the filament or the rotation of the earth. I really think you should think twice about doing a review of a product in the same video that the manufacturer is sponsoring. It’s one thing to accept a free printer it’s another thing entirely to review it when they are sponsoring the video. Please keep your integrity and do better in the future.
He repeatedly specified that this wasn’t a review during the video.
NOT a review, as I stated repeatedly. AnyCubic sponsored this video so I could show it off. I believe I made that very clear.
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He's not going to review it because he took the $$$$. Even if he did I am sure it would be 9/10 !! Always follow the money!
I felt the same way... even though it clearly said it is sponsored, it got me confused with his enthusiastic response to a bad print and for a moment there it felt like a review.
I click to the thumbnail hoping his opinion will help me decide to buy this machine but now I am hesitant until I see a proper review.
No hate here as I love his content so far, just hope it will improve on the future on how sponsors videos are set.
I had the anycubic Kobra Neo for 170 Dollars. Never got this Printing Problems. You just gotta adjust You’re Settings
The fact that this is a filament drier is amazing, I was always bummed my AMS can't do that. Specially for the price
Ya seriously, I know this isn’t a fair assessment but when your spending ≈$1000 another $160 probably isn’t the end of the world for a dedicated appliance
@@yinzerinsteelersnation4695 I am designing my own filament drier right now actually, it's such an easy thing to make, abstractly, all you need is a heater and a mosfet, but I assume the reason Bambu did not do this is that AC Is dangerous and a pai. DC would mean needing a beefier power supply. Still, you can make a great one even with a 50w element. Mine is 100w for a big food container much bigger than the AMS
The K3 is in the Anycubic Slicer. I have been testing out several printers and realize what I want to see in a review is how easy is it to set up the network and print from my laptop. Using Fluidd if possible. There always seems to a trick to it. PS Sorry you get so many negative comments.
Sorry, anycubic has locked down klipper firmware, only way to print is on their app or USB stick. I have the kobra2pro, they don't do anything to address users concerns.
Wait, I thought the ACE had RFID? Why did it let you print PLA with a PETG job?
Only their brand has rfid chip on the spool, other brands need to specify manually.
I have LOTS of trouble with ASA, will try Magigo. I use 3DLAC but needs to be applied every time.
Dude it’s a GAME changer. My vorons all have lines all over the print from slathering on glue stick, but with this stuff, it’s imperceptible and it sticks like you wouldn’t believe e
dont wanna hate but 99% of printers can print ASA and ABS in way you printed it. Taller models would be problem thou.
I can't wait to have multicolor with the ace pro on my Anycubic Vyper. Hopefully it'll allow installation with klipper because I installed klipper. I also use that same gamestop camera for my printer 6:44!
Do you have to use their dedicated slicer or can i use Prusaslicer?
They’re adding Prusa and orca support
@@thenextlayer so no?
Now if they make the head and multicolor swappable to say the 2max... that would be awesome I'd buy it to upgrade my max. Bulk multicolor cuts down.on waste
I think you didn't address the most important spec: print time for multi-filament
What about the poop? Looks like the poop wiper is on the right side over the screen. Is there a poop bin adapter stl for it? Looks like the poop could get on the bed and get in the way of the print.
Poops out the right, yep. Sorry I forgot to include that. You can print a poop bin.
Sorry, that Makita sign was pretty bad. It was worse than the old MakerBot 2X iI used to have years ago.
Yeah, I need to reprint it.
the "filament dryer" is a nice addition to any klipper 3d printer for multicolor?
Is there anyway you or anyone could ask Anycubic if they will be bring out a larger version of this printer? Because what I dont want todo is order this printer and then in a few days or weeks they bring out a larger one😡😡 I have tried emailing them with little response.....
They won't announce that during pre-order as it would hurt sales.
Try Elegoo Rapid PETG. I have been getting fantastic results with it, and I like you had a hate/hate relationship with it prior to this filament. Their Rapid PLA + is also awesome and they are pretty much all I use now, unless I need a silk. I am hoping they add some silks to the lineup eventually.
I'll try to get my hands on some!
do the AMS style systems just recognize they are plugged in or how do the AMS and the printer communicate :) i have never had an AMS style printer and im looking at getting one at some point once bugs and stuff are fixed
They're plugged in and communicate
Hi, can you also do multi-color TPU prints with this? I am looking to print with the soft Recreus 82A filament, but the bambu lab AMS cannot handle TPU and it would be cool if this one could.
No filament changer can use normal TPU. The filament changer has to push the filament through the tube to the head - and TPU is to flexible to do that. Even the Prusa XL has problems with feeding TPU through the reverse bowden. However, after you got it in manualy, it works, as the XL is a multitool printer and the filament isn´t changed but the tool.
But: There is always VarioShore, a filament wich shore hardnes changes after heating, depending of nozzle temperature. The filament on the spool is nearly as stiff as PET-G, so it might work with filament changers. By setting the nozzle temperature you can adjust the shore hardness. With this filament you can get incredibly soft TPU using higher temperatures - a filament having theese softness from the start would not be printable with any normal extruder.
So you might search for some videos about VarioShore.
@@oleurgast730 Hi thank you so much for the answer to my comment. I had never heard of VarioShore and I am just looking it up. I will definitely test this one.
9:36 I cant take you serious if you call this a good print. 🤣
Would you recommend this over bambu labs a1?
Haven’t tried the A1, and it’s hard to say honestly until the profiles are ready and perfected
This is nowhere near the quality and precision printing of bamboo printers
"I can't print PETG".... Proceeds to try and print ASA unenclosed 🤦♂️
Decent enough intro/spotlight video for the printer, but it is completely lacking in any real substance (IE technical details) that would lead me to actually consider buying it. Just felt like a whole lotta fluff, and I guess that's all a paid/sponsored, early-release video can be...
I agree! early-release videos are to no one's benefit IMO, especially when they are full of mistakes.
When will u have the full review when it goes to retail?
I wasn't planning on doing one. Reviews aren't that successful on the channel
So by what you have told us, they are selling something that is not ready yet to be shipped. I wonder what the shipping date of this thing.
Yeah, but honestly, that's become common practice in the tech industry these days. Hardware is done, they start marketing and shipping, and fix the software while it's en route. I don't like it any more than you do, but everyone from Tesla to Rabbit are doing it... heck, even Apple is shipping the Vision Pro with like, only a handful of apps in the app store that actually work on it.
@@thenextlayerI can understand but that doesn't mean that I will accept it. A lot of people here in Greece are smokers. That doesn't mean that I will start to smoke because it is acceptable and common to do. I don't look what others do and I don't care. This is wrong and should be criticized despite the fact that it is common. I still remember the days without early access to video games where I would buy one and it would be in an almost perfect state. Now even 3d printers have early access! I believe as a TH-camr/influencer you should have done a better job talking about this fact. My dislike that I pressed was because of this. I don't say you are the only one that does this and please don't take it personal. Sanladerer did it as well with the peopoly 3d printer.
Thanks!
Worked great until it broke after a week...the advertised anti-clog detection system didn't shut it down when it got clogged up so the printer kept shoving filament into the print head assembly, freezing it to the track so that we couldn't disassemble it to clean it out. Returned it for a refund.
Dang. Sorry to hear that. Yeah, it’s not polished yet but I hope software updates will fix that
For me this review kinda ruined your reputation, which is very sad to see. It was clearly rushed, important details (like amount of poop, filament swap times, etc.) are missed (intentionally?), actually terrible quality presented as "nice"... Everyone will make a very reasonable assumptions why so much balls were dropped...
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You had me at 'print resume' working properly...electrical power is not 100% where I live!
We get 2-10 second outages on most week-days...my apartment is on the same substation as an industrial park...so we get power fluctuations during the work-day with the occasional drop-out.
I almost got the Kobra 3, decided I didn't need multicolor....went with the kobra 2 pro instead.
Crazy-fast printing, I had to put a paving-stone on the table to stop it from shaking!
get a UPS. print resume leaves a line so now you have an ugly print and wasted filament
Yes I have a 1800watt UPS and it keeps my printer going for about 1-2hours when I have a powercut... Plus I have a generator, so if the power is out over a longer period I just need to get the generator started you before the batteries die.
Sell out, I'll wait for the legitimate reviews from people who are paying for these units. I have several Bambu lab and Anycubics and the Anycubic printers are not dialed in at all, and the slicer is dire! i hope they catch up soon but at the moment they feel like they're rushing to catchup rather than refining their products BEFORE releasing them!!
Every one of those prints were terrible. Thanks for showing the actual quality and saving me from purchasing one of these printers.
Great vid, I do wonder about the purging/pooping though.
Flicks it out the right side! I can’t believe I forgot to show that
Did anyone else gt their printer and not get the pantone or the camera?
Just thought I would add my 5p’s worth to this video.
My 9yeat old cocker spaniel squats down and lifts her rear leg to pee!
As for the printer and anycubic. Bambu seem to be a bit scared. They have kept the sale price on the a1 with combo as people seem to be trying this printer out.
Damn first Prusa stole their multi color from the Tool and now Anycubic stealing from Bambu? Heating up for sure
OH man this looks a lot bigger then i thought. i may have to cancel my order. Not sure it will fit where i had intended to set it😥. But if they can get that AC E to work on none Anycubic that would be sweet. One thing i misread on the buy page. I read Pantone color exclusive camera as one item. so the whole time i though they were going to get the pantone camera, and that thing is sweet. oh well .
All those prints look awful, like first gen 3d prints awful. That makita top surface needs alot of work. Looks like this printer is nowhere near primetime.
Can't call it prints like crap when it is a paid video right ?
What about this new trend of selling and releasing then fixing things up ?
Make it at least print nice then sell it ...