EDIT: I was told that Alice is not the Community Manager for this project. I do appologise for the error! Apparently they have a Community Team and it seems like Alice is apart of that team, considering the fact that she has been promoting the game on both her profiles and windstorm profiles. So, community manager or no, she still has a direct association with Khiimori and is still a part of the team. What do you think about Legend of Khiimori?
Purely just from a oh look new horse game that is not the whole "win big competition because ranch/stable is struggling" kind of thing? I am excited and would like it to be good. Listening to concerns about the historical aspects has me disappointed that they might possibly not be included as I just learned about parts of Mongolian history from this video and would love to see/have them be referenced in game.
I am sad because I only have a macbook and they are windows only. I am hoping once I move I can save for some kind of inexpensive pc that can also play games. I would also love to play rdr2... But that requires good specs. Ah. Why can’t more games be available on macbooks!
im pretty worried about the actual gameplay as you say it seems like it doesnt have much direction, and that was exactly what my experience was like playing other windstorm games; not very cohesive, and when a game is so "mild" as in focused on exploration, leisure, 'coziness' etc. that can get boring very quickly... so the world must be absolutely stunning to pull that off, which is not what im expecting. also i think your annoyance over the addition of warmbloods to the game is absolutely valid, and if i was anywhere as invested in the windstorm series id be pissed at the community too. its just going to take away from the immersiveness of the setting that i believe this game will desperately need, and personally the typical 'aesthetic warmbloods' genre of horse games is getting overdone and i am tired of it personally i find myself going for the draft horses if there are any, but i think mongolian horses have a rugged and wild beauty in their own right and are very underappreciated. (same goes for arabians, most people idolize the noodle halter types, when actual purebred arabians are beautiful in a similar way i see mongolian horses; hardy, brave and impressively enduring to the world.) thank you for another lovely review rattle, doing the research so we dont have to ❤
It makes me so mad that people are hating the Mongolian horse. Like heaven forbid we have a unique, cultural horse breed instead of some boring English, European warmblood.
fr, I personally might not like their look the best, but they are still cute enough, and more importantly, they are a unique breed that needs more representation. It was quite disheartening, when I showed this game to a friend, and their first reaction was "the horses are ugly". Like, okay. What can I even say to such attitude.
i had to pause at the breeds section to just comment: YES I AGREE SO HARD about wanting the Mongolian horse to be appreciated as THE breed in the Mongolian Horse Game
I didn't even know "Ostwind" is an international franchise, i thought its just a german thing. Im interesten to see what this game will be when its out
about halfway in and I have to agree with being disappointed in the community on the horse aesthetics. Not every horse needs to be a perfect, modern eventer. Plenty of horses are aesthetically 'ugly' if what you want is a warmblood but they're so pretty in their own unique ways and it's disappointing to see the developers got bullied into changing the horses because the community couldn't be excited to see a more obscure breed being featured (this used to be something that got people wildly excited too!)
I adore the Mongolian horse. I adore stocky, round horses! I do not exactly like the traditions around them as they tend to be heavily abusive (at least from the videos you shared in the video). I adore stocky, round, and big hooves equines!
Same, I don't play multiple horse games for the same basic ass thoroughbreds. I want a scraggly looking lil' dude named something dumb like 'Taxes' to ride into the sunset lol
I have to disagree on the drama section here. Someone from a company shutting down a bigoted comment from a random user that was most likely never going to play the game anyway isn't and shouldn't be a problem. Companies SHOULD speak against people like that user. Racist, Transphobic, and homophobic comments should be shut down.
This, these kinds of people will never actually buy the games they're getting so mad over. This wasn't a loss of a customer, it was the clever ousting of a bigot. Nothing of value was lost.
It's how she spoke to a potential customer - The same customer that very clearly wasn't gonna get this game because of "woke nonsense" which is just clear bigotry? And god forbid people see her response and then "decide not to buy it because she was 'mean'" and then then check any of those same accounts and wouldn't you have guessed it their also anti-woke misogynist and transphobia C'mon Rattle we can talk about her past grievances if they were silencing actual criticism but can we not give "ERM but hear them out because their your customers !!" To people upset at pronouns and the wokeness of...... pronouns
yep absolutely agree, i don't think we should ever be conceding to transphobes and being mean to them isn't a bad thing, in fact it's a net good. isolate them out, they're weird and horrible and don't deserve to feel welcome. that section was probably the only part i disagreed with, sure there's actual grievances with alice in other contexts but this is absolutely not one of them.
Especially that ppl who are commenting "they will not buy the game now" are known grifters, who wouldn't buy the game anyway. They are here just to be assholes.
Something i wrote under abigail's video about the horses was that im sad that they ended up adding in the warmblood (i get it, they have to sell a game) and its not really because they dont fit the 13th century (i love when stuff is accurate but also im a strong believer that accuracy and realism shouldnt outweigh fun) but more that this game could be a breaking point of that "tall slim warmblood pretty, small stocky horse ugly" mentality and actually expose people to something different and possibly push other games to actually add in those overlooked "ugly" horses- its like a cat game not adding in sphinx cats, devon rex's, lykoi's etc because they're not 'aesthetically pleasing'. Most people form quite strong bonds with their pixel pets and more often than not- something that was really ugly or freaky to you before now you might find quite endearing purely because you ended up getting exposed and/or interacting with that certain thing
Oh! That's such a good point! Giving people the same stuff over and over means they never expand their horizons. I really don't like t he addition of the warmblood, at all.
@@YTRattle yeahh, I do kind of understand the devs ofc since well- as you said they want to sell a game so they're trying to appeal to the audience, but also I feel like alot of game developers go the "we need to listen to our community" a bit too hard, like dont get me wrong- a dev should listen to what the community has to say but also they should be able to realize when the community has an actually valid point/complaint and when they're just- either wrong, unkowledgable or ignorant- like the warmblood for example, in 13th century there wouldnt be any warmbloods and I do believe that the devs knew about it since they added it purely because people complained which is quite sad. Community is obviously the largest factor that makes the game but at the same time its like a child, they should be listened to and heard on what they have to say, and- sometimes they do have good ideas! But in the end its the parents (devs) job to dictate what is an actual good idea and what is just lack of knowledge
Yay a video about a game i'm looking forward too!... What do you mean there's Drama again?... I hope we'll be able to just avoid/ignore the warmbloods... I like these short necked cuties
@@YTRattle I'm already meh about every new Dressagy Warmblood added to SSO... I didn't even watch the full video at that point so hearing about all that inaccuracy and all, the game should either come out December 2025 or somewhere 2026 cause they really should take more time to make it
For different Breeds they could have used a few other wild species of Horses that might have been in the world at the same time that had similar aesthic to modern horses so it still keeps that story from the past theme
I love the Mongolian horses they shouldn't cave to people who can't appreciate their lovely beauty :( I was actually thinking how cute those horses look in game just before you mentioned the comments.
I might have misunderstood the video, but it feels like you’re suggesting the problem on Twitter is how Alice Ruppert responded to this person, who clearly has a conservative and narrow-minded way of thinking. Putting politics aside and just looking at the message, it’s the other person, not Alice, who came in with a comment clearly meant to attack her just for stating how she likes to be addressed (with her pronouns). I get this is a business, but are we really going to let people throw harmful comments around without setting any boundaries? I don’t think Alice was disrespectful at all, nor do I think she "couldn’t handle the situation". Sure, her reply was quite blunt, but the question wasn’t exactly polite either, and honestly, ethical values should always come before business. I feel It’s better for our community not to sink to the levels AAA games like GTA have to, just to appeal to these types of people. There’s a difference between trying to keep customers happy and trying to please people who clearly don’t respect others. Honestly, even if the game did have pronouns-anachronistic or not-what harm would it cause? These are the same people who don’t have a problem with women’s armour in games like Baldur’s Gate being ridiculously sexualised. That said, I’m not saying horse games should only appeal to kids-like Pokémon, which has proven it can not still appeal to people in their 30s-but I also don’t see why we should tolerate people who want to feel superior and tell you how to play, dress, or think. Honestly, I’d rather stick to the games we have now. I don’t go on Twitter (or X, whatever) ranting about how boring I find MOBAs, for example, and I don’t judge the people who play them. I love the realism in RDR and RDR2, and I don’t have a problem with violence or combat. But here’s a secret: you can have an exciting, fun, and realistic action-adventure game without combat. You don’t have to fall into the same tired tropes. In short, I think we’re all grown up enough not to need people telling us how to think or how to see the world, and we shouldn’t be living under the influence of outdated ideologies that just want to condemn anything outside their narrow view.
hi, This is such a wonderful video. I just wanted to add/explore the idea of horses liking or disliking different kinds of terrain. I think it adds a bit of personality to the horses. but if there are roads to everywhere then whats the point of the terrain preference,, well we have to remember that this game is based in like the 1300 so the so called roads might not be too good in quality. but the point i want to get to is that what if the game starts off in the bigger villages with roads and smaller deliveries like letters and packages. and once you prove yourself good at the job you get the more difficult jobs where you have to deliver for example food and building material out to small villages out in the middle of nowhere with no roads to them.. there is where i see the terrain preferences and abilites play a massive role. for example, you get a mission to deliver a larger sum of food to a starving village out in the dessert, then you need a fast horse that prefer the dessert terrain. or you need to deliver building material for a village in the swamp. then you need a strong horse with good balance that can get through the mud and waters. but i really wish there was combat in this game, like wild animals attacking you or bandits trying to steal your goods. but maybe thats just me. and these are just my thought and im sorry for the long essay, have a great day :)
This is an awesome idea! I'm going to be chatting with the team soon and I'll be sure to bring this up! Thanks for the awesome comment! (I'll give you some proper credit!)
@@YTRattle omg thank you, this made my day haha. (i went to game develompment school and i have experience in video game animation so if you want to chat just hit me up)
I love the unique look of Mongolian horses, just stocky lil fellas and it's such a damn shame they had to add a fuckin thoroughbred because people kept whining about not liking such a magnificent horse
I'm hoping to get this game (depending on how it is when it comes out) and I'm making myself a promise right now to use Mongolian horses over warmbloods. They have such a charm about them (irl and in game) and deserve some spotlight! I'm thinking (hoping) that the devs are holding some of their cards close to their chest in terms of story and setting. I'm willing to wait and see! As for the drama...nah I think that was a fine response. Pronouns are such an innocuous part of life and anyone who makes a point of them being 'problematic' is the actual problem. I can almost guarantee that most of the people who complained about that are people who aren't even interested in the game/genre in the first place and are just looking for a fight.
I'm really happy that atleast someone is giving the mongolian horses some love, they are so cute and so full of character! Sincerely from Poland (our horses are also mildly ugly, fugly if you will)
@@YTRattle Ostwind (Windstorm) was originally a german book series, which was turned into movies and then games later on. I personally never played the games nor read the books but watched the movies. I’m pretty sure in the movies they explain how the kind of horsemanship the main character learns comes from centuries ago in Mongolia and that also has to do with her „mentor“ carving wood statues which you can find as collectibles in the first game. (I don’t know if they explained this in the game). This is also probably the reason for the main character in this game having red hair since this ties her with the main character from Windstorm. Therefor I understood this game as some kind of prequel which plays in the past.
I find all horse breeds absolutely beautiful from Arabian to Irish cobs idk why people can't see the beauty in certain breeds like that's why I fell in love with horses as a kid and still now
Idk if it's a hot take but I think the Magolian (probably spelt it wrong cause of dyslexia so apologies) horse looks cute and cool. Something about the looks and history is so cool to me personally and gotta respect the creators of the game adding them in cause I don't think I have seen these horses in a horse game before.
A bit off topic, but I’ve done a lot of research into the origin of certain physical/appearance based traits in humans and where they originated and there’s actually a lot of archaeological evidence to support the theory that red hair, or at least the gene for red hair, originated in what is now Mongolia, and spread from there! This is a very uncommonly known fact so I find it very surprising that they decided to use red hair for this protagonist. Do you think it was deliberate or a coincidence?
22:40 He passed in 1227... I was born 12/27 ... No wonder I seek violence nowadays... Lol, jk, anyway, I am really looking forward to this game despite the drama (because what horse game doesn't have drama these days). Some things I'd like to add (sorry if it's long. I love you content btw)): - Of course, the horses look sort of "ugly" because this was way in the past before horses were bred to fit aesthetics. That's common sense, technically... - Though it would be nice to have a horse game without violence, I'd still like there to be a "feeling of danger". The game essentially has us out in the wild, so of course, wild animals can pose a threat to us as well as robbers. - Um, yeah, the breeding system better not have a dlc for foals, like, why was that even a thing in the first place? Oh right, money. - Like you said, Genghis Khan was out and about before the time of the game (If the game is believed to be around that time or just an alternate universe fanfic?), so there still should be some sort of ruler or army we should be aware of as we play, even if they don't plan to add violence in the game. Plus, you said there was possible diseases going about around that time, too. It'll give us more reason to plan our routes properly to avoid soldiers, towns full of sickness, other trade routes from other npcs/players, etc. It's ok to not be totally historically accurate (even though, with this type of game strictly speaking of Mongolia, there should be), but I still would like a bit of "action" to make the game not too "cozy". - The drama ... is sort of just an eyeroll. The response from twitter users was a bit much. Her comment seemed more like a joke, but it's Twitter. They take everything either too far and too seriously, or not far/seriously enough. At the end of the day, if this is an action adventure, put the action in it. Otherwise, this is just a game of USPS on horses.
"If this is an action-adventure, the action in" damn straight! I do hope they add some enemies or proper challenges into the game. A cozy game is a good idea, but it seems disjointed from what a courier rider is supposed to be: fast, brave, and thinking on their feet. But it's still early days, it might surprise us!
as someone with several paintings, plus a shrine of models of primitive horses, I was thrilled for this game. It’s sad they felt they had to add more “pretty” horse options. Also, the whole pronoun thing is such a non-issue. Just typical cringe tier bigot basement dwellers trolling. I love “boring” games (I love Horse Isle 3, for example) so I think this game will be great for me, if only the mechanics work well and the breeding isn’t difficult lol (I want to edit to clarify: when I said “non-issue” I specifically meant that I don’t think having pronouns in the game will effect the sales. I think horse people who are interested will purchase it regardless, and the people negging the devs about “wokeness” aren’t people who would’ve purchased anyway. Obviously, bigots being assholes IS an issue.)
the drama section was arguably just ass. i don't know why you added it. her response to the bigoted comments on her tweet was great. these people were not customers to begin with, obviously.
I'm gonna get this game no matter what. My grandpa always visited his friend in Mongolia and spend his days there. He always stayed the nights in the wild with wild camels, horses and wolves roaming around. He wrote a whole book about his journey. His friend was a semi well known throat singer "Okna Tsahan Zam. His favorite song of his was "Edijn Duun -Okna Tsahan Zam" i actually like that one even I'm not a big fan of that style of singing. I remember him visiting the Netherlands with him in his cultural outfit and traditional long braided hair😂 the day he was there he sang for us on his small guitar, it was so sweet. Me and my grandpa were best friends and we shared a special connection like i had with no one else. He is no longer with us but because he was so familiar with the Mongolian culture i just have to have this game. I love the Mongolian horses, they look just like how I remember them too. Such a gorgeous realistic design. Finally a game who dares to be different! This is what I've been waiting for and the culture makes it absolutely perfect and so nostalgic! Unfortunately people always ruin it for others. I do wish it stayed at the Mongolian horses. If people want to ride warm bloods, they have to wait for another game (just like I've been doing for over 10 years) or play a game that is already existing.
as someone who is super excited for this game and am loving how these guys are being more open to feedback within their community, im so glad you made a video on it! of course theres drama, ugh, i was HOPING there wouldnt be. i personally ADORE mongolian horses so i am also a bit concerned why the hell they would add crossbreeding..? ghost of tsushima also did a great job on the mongolian horse breed!
I was so excited to see you in the discord, loved the video as always. Im still disappointed that they announced this game so early and dont have a ton of answers for people because "its so early. We dont know" we wont even be getting a early acess look until 25, which is fine, but I just feel they could have waited closer to release of a early access. Im glad they are doing an EA first, but im wary of all EA and this is no exception. You bring up many good points as always. Thank you for your research as always!
Thank you! I completely agree, Khiimori was announced a little too early. They can say so little about the game at this point and I get it, they don't want to lock themselves into a feature. But it's so bare bones we barely have anything. I also get the wariness to early access, we haven't had the best track record for it, have we XD
I have hope. I always have hope till its shat on. I like the idea of having to plan out routes while being a mail person but if the only thing that we have to worry about is weather and terrain... What about wild animals that have gotten desperate or making sure you have enough supplies for your horse so they aren't thirsty or hungry. This game does not need to be cozy. It probably shouldn't in all honesty, shake it up add risks. We love our horses and want to make sure they make it so its all on you if they don't. I was always worried for my horse in red dead 2. I dont like that thwy added the thoroughbreds, i also blame the silly people complaining about the Mongolian horses being different. Breeding sounds alright, training seems okay, i hope they acoid the mini game bullshit. I would like the historical accuracy to be more close to accurate then not, it could be delightful.
I have no idea why they are going for the cozy idea. It's completely against the entire concept for what the game should and could be. Which is just damned sad. Maybe it's a good game, but it still can just as well be a wasted opportunity.
I get excited for any horse game that is not the normal "do dressage and save the ranch" gameplay, and I think if they get this game right, it might be one of the best horse games around. Also, Mongolian horses are adorable and I love them, and I fully plan to ignore the warmbloods and just have my little chonky Mongolian horses
I'm honestly just excited about that game. I first heard about it on TikTok and i thought "oh my god, a realistic-ish looking game where I can just run around on cute horses in stunning environments? yes please!" I just hope the horse games curse wont affect it lol
Im sorry for commenting so much, but another thing I’ve picked up on is how some think it wouldn’t be cozy if we have to do things fast, and TECHNICALLY that can be true, however in the cozy gaming community we always say that a game is cozy if it makes you feel cozy! For me RDR2 is cozy, for some it’s games like Fortnite. I think this game could definitely be considered a cozy game, it just depends on the person playing it 😊
I just want a game similar to RDO. I need something that’s open world but an MMO or where you can have a private server or lobby where my partner and I can play together. Sadly RDO is unplayable now on pc due to modders and the hundreds of bugs due to Rockstar abandoning the game. I actually finally uninstalled the game yesterday and it makes me so sad. This game looks good graphics wise, but how will the story or game play be? I’m so disappointed in horse games recently and would like a good immersive multiplayer game.
Oh damn, I absolutely get what you're saying. Unfortunately, this game won't be multiplayer, it's going to be a single player experience. AAstride will have Multiplayer and I Unbridled as well!
There are private servers on PC. Apparently there are some equestrian-themed servers on RedM, but most of the RedM servers are RP-based. You might have luck with it if you have the time to invest.
I'm super excited about this game because I like having a reason to ride my horse. You'd think I'd like doing competitions and things but I've actually always gotten way more fulfillment our of needing my horse for things, or being able to keep the same horse and put time and effort into improving it rather than throwing it out the moment a better one comes along: Ranch of Rivershine let me keep my old horses if I was willing to put the effort into making them just as good as my newer ones and it made itself the first time in a great many games where I didn't feel like I was just wasting my time on anything less than the best. It was the first game in forever that didn't make my prettiest horse, my worst horse. Ghost of Tsushima is a great example. I needed Kage, honest to gods that horse was amazing, they felt like a companion, they were a flawless part of the game for me and they held value in the time you spent with that particular horse. I'm really excited about them keeping that aspect in Ghost of Yotei. Red Dead Redemption 2: You needed your horse and if you didn't kill them every 3 strides by not letting them AI path around a tree you could easily keep the same horse the whole game and they were your buddy, you did everything with them. Went everywhere on their back. Sometimes you even relied on them to tell you when something was wrong. If my horse twitched, I twitched. Shadow of the Colossus: Agro. Just. Agro. R.I.P. buddy. Black Desert: You get a good horse. You ride it. That's your horse and you hang onto it for everything. You train it, spend a lot of time relying on it, take care of it by keeping it alive. There are games out there that have horses in them, but they don't generate the same value. I remember a magazine complaining about Epona in Twilight Princess having all the personality of a parked Ferrari and I've never forgotten the quote because that's all mounts are in most games. Glorified cars you park and travel on. Then you get games where they come when you call, flying mounts and dismounts, versatility, usefulness, personality and something you put effort and training into. I hate, hate, hate how ephemeral horse games make your mounts. SSO is one of the few that don't completely invalidate your previous choices with Stats and Breeding. I can slap a saddle on my favorite old horse and have just as much a shot at new content as I did buying the new breed that week. TL;DR I'm excited about a game with no combat where my horse matters and I hope they don't go the rout of making us chase the next finest horse and take the approach RoR did by allowing us to better our old ones as much as we can if we really want to keep them.
As much as this game seems to have potential, it being an Aesir Interactive project really speaks volumes about expected quality. I personally learned my lesson with Horse Tales - not spending money on this one until some months pass.
If they want to introduce other horse breeds I think there's plenty of ways to do that while keeping it historically accurate... The Arabian horse would be obvious as another ancient breed. If you look at paintings from Ancient Egypt or Greece the chariot horses are very obviously Arabian-type with dished faces and high set tails. Another breed I would add would be the Ferghana or Turkish horse. The Ferghana was the preferred war horse of Han dynasty China and the Turkish horse helped found the Thoroughbred breed which played a huge role in creating modern warmblood breeds, so if they want to add a historically accurate "warmblood"... I was going to say I don't blame the game developers for not knowing niche ancient and medieval horse history but then again they are making a medieval horse game... I think the Mongolian horses deserve the main role but having other breeds could add to the feel of a vast empire with different cultures. The game could have the other breeds attainable at different places along your route, again adding to this feel
Honestly it's embarrassing how people said that the Mongolian horse is "ugly". Like it's okay if you don't like them, but the game is set in (sorry i forgot the year😅), you can't pretend to have a warmblood or any other modern breed in a non-modern-age game (coming from someone who doesn't fancy neither mongolian horses and warmbloods)
Im not a horse person, i didnt even know horses could be so stout and short (without being a pony from my understanding) but I think they look cute? Im also a short person, so seeing a small horse that's very hardy is such treat. Im a fan of these horse now
Omg the Mongolian horse issue really pissed me off when I first saw people complaining.... Like the freaking world doesn't revolve around Warmbloods, etc. I was and still am super excited about having a game with horses that are NOT the same usual stuff we see in every freaking game. And i really like how "chonky" the in-game ones were. They looked like a horse that could actually traverse the landscape. I'm really looking forward to playing around with them once the game's out. Others can keep their damn prancing ponies.
omg i love how their using mongolains! i love the breed and breed them for color in horse reality and there such beatiful and amazing horses that deserve more love. the art also looks really nice, and i love the models.
I 100% agree about mongolian horses. Adding warmbloods is like dressing the soldiers of Mount&Blade in modern uniforms bc the players found the historically accurate ones ugly, and their eyes could only bear familiar sights. The cool thing is to imerse yourself in a different timeline and culture, so it's a bit sad to ruin it with obvious anachronism.
Awesome video as always, and I have to agree.... the word Similarly is hard to pronounce... I tried to say it myself a couple of times because of this video, and I ended up fumbling more times than I would like to admit... XD ♥
I think the concept and horses overall looks great Still have some questions about a few elements and a skeptical attitude cause horse tails and more 😅 but yeah why not ☺️ Great video as always !
I'm excited for this game, it sounds like it could really be awesome! I love that they are taking inspiration from ROR and RDR, I'm just hoping they will be able to implement the features they plan right as well as avoid any more drama until release. What I'm worried about is the price, Emerald Ranch was super expensive for the state the game was released in, I'm just hoping this game won't be the same and the developers take their time working out any issues before release.
They make a historical game but dont stick to the historical component of the actual horses purely because people were whining about aesthetics? Always the wrong focus with horse games.. just own the history of the peoples and stop trying to please a crowd of people that dont want actual change in their games.
Twitter has become AWFUL. A friend of mine's tweet also got popular because of a comment they made about a clever way an indie game textured a flag so it couldn't be easily modded (there were other reasons why the developers textured it that way too I'm sure). And because it was a pride flag, right-wing insane twitter saw it and got really upset. Apparently twitter notifies you when people "group" you (or something like that) as well and said friend got a lot of awful slurs and threats directed at them. At first it was funny but then they started commenting on the friend's other tweets and started saying how useless and stupid they were. They want to call certain people snowflakes but then shit themselves over the weirdest things
when i saw the trailer of the game i really liked it, but the animations they used really looked like the other horse game. when i knew it was them i got scared for what the future is in the game
Personally I think what would have been more ideal is instead of adding warmbloods and other coats, they should of have it where players could work on getting mutations from the Mongolian horse through breeding such of coats and body shape.. Tho its still not realistic, but I think its better than just adding more coats and breeds.
I’m starting to think it isn’t possible to make a horse game without thoroughbreds, Arabians, and or warmbloods even if it doesn’t make sense for the world lol
Rattle's covered (at least from what I've seen which is admittedly not a lot, I'm a fairly new-ish subscriber :D) one game that wasn't about horses. I'm mildly concerned about this person's fixation on either horses or just horse games, but I also end up invested in a topic I before didn't give two-sh*ts about and fixated too. Thanks Rattle 👍
I love the mongolian horses, fluffy horses are my jam, and they come in so many colours and coats! I just dont like the "horsemanship" of the mongolian riders. And I think this game is going to be pretty repetative, so I dont have high hopes sadly. Would be so cool to see herds of wild horses, and maybe befriend one as a steed! Perhaps a quest where we as the player help a tribe to round up wild horses, and as a thanks are gifted any of the herdmembers.
I cant help but disagree with the idea that Alice was doing smthn wrong in this specific instance with the commenter. The constant idea that you need to play the middle man bcuz its whats best for the company is cowardice and capitiolist based. As the reaction showed, standing up for the companies ideals and her own only benefited them and to see a team member focus specifically on the anti-lgbtq people who set out to make others feel unwelcomed, was an appreciated sight. She did exactly what she should have and her crass response only made her intentions very clear. Intolerability will not be tolerated in their community. Good on them.
Finally a new video from you, rattle! :D Aesir interactive is one of the worst developers ever. So many bugs, ugly horses, horrible animations, bad controls, etc. I had to cancel the second windstorm game because of a game breaking bug during a quest. Btw, you've said there are only so many horse games with the same gameplay mechanics? Yea, i agree to that. That's why i've decided to learn Unreal Engine 4 and make a horse game that is very different to a normal equestrian game with dressage, jumping and so on. My game is a mystery-drama horse game. I can't tell more though, despite that the plot is already there, because the development is in the early alpha stage. I'm currently building up the environment, working on the player character model concept art and model itself, doing quest items for later quests and in general focusing on the fundamental basics. I can not promise at all if it will ever be playable. I expect a development time of two or three years, because i'm doing it alone. Atm i'm working on Alpha Build V1.1. The Beta development Phase will start only when the fundamental landscape and gameplay mechanics are introduced and bug-free. And therefor, if all works out well, you all could finally get an "unusual" horse game. We will see what future brings me in case of development.
To start off with the drama, personally as someone who identifies as nonbinary and uses multiple pronouns, I always enjoy when people pop off against the "anti-woke" crowd. Just being who I am, I'm always going to enjoy seeing that. Was it a good business move? No. Was it a good person move? Yes, imo, yes, it was. With that said, I am not the biggest fan of Ruppert. I learned to take her words as a grain of salt after the crap she peddled about Emerald Valley: Horse Ranch. Like, I get that it's part of her job to promote the games she works for, but there were a lot of straight up lies with that game that she personally pushed on her blog and all across social media. And if she was being forced/coerced by the developers to say those things, then some pushback from her like the pronouns tweet would have been nice instead of straight up lying to us and helping fool all of us out of our money. As for Aesir gaming, I haven't liked a single one of their games yet, so I'm not anticipating this entry too much. I haven't liked the other Windstorm games, and I clearly didn't like Emerald Valley: Horse Ranch. I am intrigued by Legend of Khiimori's premise. I would love to have a good game with a focus on the Mongolian courier system. It sounds interesting, but you best believe that I'll be waiting until I see evidence of a quality game before I give more money to Aesir. Sorry for my novel lmao
I've had my fair share of Alice blatantly lying at peoples faces too. Ever since I am very vary about her and her statements. I think it was only a few months that she was calling you a lier yourself? She's literally saying anything to make herself or the projects she's involved in look better.
as unprofessional as alice's comment was, it made me laugh out loud in public. as a nonbinary person i can't help but appreciate the support but as an adult who deals with customers i'm like "time and place!!! please!!! keep those kind of comments in the group chat!!!"
honestly the way she reacted to blatant transphobia was pretty great. Fuck people having issues with pronouns in games. I hope there's at least a dozen pronoun options once it releases. shame about the other things i guess
Honestly, I hope Horse Tales was just a fumble they learn from, and with this game they take what didn't work in HT and work and fiddle with and most of all improve on it. I'm just really tired of Horse Games missing the mark all the time and would like to actually try a good one nowadays without feeling like I'll be duped or scammed out of my money and shit. But that's wishful thinking.
I personally don't trust any project Alice is involved in, they always seem to end up being a lot less than what is advertised and she comes off as passive-aggressive when there's criticism...
Oh FUCK nonono not the emerald valley Rach deva gooood why can't we catch a break If they ever actually finish the damn thing then at least the controls for EVR were pretty good??? Again if anything fucking WORKS and they don't abandon the project as soon as they finish squeezing money out of it
EDIT: I was told that Alice is not the Community Manager for this project. I do appologise for the error! Apparently they have a Community Team and it seems like Alice is apart of that team, considering the fact that she has been promoting the game on both her profiles and windstorm profiles. So, community manager or no, she still has a direct association with Khiimori and is still a part of the team.
What do you think about Legend of Khiimori?
Yet more controversy! xD
ALWAYS!! XD
Purely just from a oh look new horse game that is not the whole "win big competition because ranch/stable is struggling" kind of thing? I am excited and would like it to be good. Listening to concerns about the historical aspects has me disappointed that they might possibly not be included as I just learned about parts of Mongolian history from this video and would love to see/have them be referenced in game.
I am sad because I only have a macbook and they are windows only. I am hoping once I move I can save for some kind of inexpensive pc that can also play games. I would also love to play rdr2... But that requires good specs. Ah. Why can’t more games be available on macbooks!
im pretty worried about the actual gameplay as you say it seems like it doesnt have much direction, and that was exactly what my experience was like playing other windstorm games; not very cohesive, and when a game is so "mild" as in focused on exploration, leisure, 'coziness' etc. that can get boring very quickly... so the world must be absolutely stunning to pull that off, which is not what im expecting.
also i think your annoyance over the addition of warmbloods to the game is absolutely valid, and if i was anywhere as invested in the windstorm series id be pissed at the community too. its just going to take away from the immersiveness of the setting that i believe this game will desperately need, and personally the typical 'aesthetic warmbloods' genre of horse games is getting overdone and i am tired of it
personally i find myself going for the draft horses if there are any, but i think mongolian horses have a rugged and wild beauty in their own right and are very underappreciated. (same goes for arabians, most people idolize the noodle halter types, when actual purebred arabians are beautiful in a similar way i see mongolian horses; hardy, brave and impressively enduring to the world.)
thank you for another lovely review rattle, doing the research so we dont have to
❤
Jesus, can a horse game ever come out without drama? Rattle is just our horse game news reporters lmao
Never. LOL
@@malicerupperthonestly a lot of it isn’t exaggerated I’ve been there for half of it and everything said was true 💀
Oh! Can you tell me where I exaggerated? ^^
@YTRattle they said lots of it *isn't* exaggerated!
It makes me so mad that people are hating the Mongolian horse. Like heaven forbid we have a unique, cultural horse breed instead of some boring English, European warmblood.
Strongly agree! They are fine with wierd miniature horses I am sure. But oh forbid these cuties.
Also, can someone please make a horse game centered around draft breeds already?
Exactly! Like, there's so many unique and beautiful breeds out there but most games just focus on some type of warmblood 😭
fr, I personally might not like their look the best, but they are still cute enough, and more importantly, they are a unique breed that needs more representation. It was quite disheartening, when I showed this game to a friend, and their first reaction was "the horses are ugly". Like, okay. What can I even say to such attitude.
@@Oraanu Yeah! That would be so cool, I'm not sure what the main theme of a game like that would be, but there are lots of possibilities!
i had to pause at the breeds section to just comment: YES I AGREE SO HARD about wanting the Mongolian horse to be appreciated as THE breed in the Mongolian Horse Game
YUSSSS!! I would love them to be the main horse! Something that makes them special! :D
Mongolian horses can't be classified as one breed, they are more like over 70+ different land races.
@@lb540 ok
As a German I was so proud to hear that Ostwind (Windstorm) was mentioned that I briefly forgot that this video is talking about new drama
Same, this game is as if my childhood horse girl roleplays are becoming reality
I didn't even know "Ostwind" is an international franchise, i thought its just a german thing. Im interesten to see what this game will be when its out
about halfway in and I have to agree with being disappointed in the community on the horse aesthetics. Not every horse needs to be a perfect, modern eventer. Plenty of horses are aesthetically 'ugly' if what you want is a warmblood but they're so pretty in their own unique ways and it's disappointing to see the developers got bullied into changing the horses because the community couldn't be excited to see a more obscure breed being featured (this used to be something that got people wildly excited too!)
This is the first time I’ve heard of the mongolian horse and omg? HOW CAN SOMEONE CALL THEM UGLY LOOK AT THEM. THEYRE CUTE
IKR!! I love Mongllian Horses!
I adore the Mongolian horse. I adore stocky, round horses! I do not exactly like the traditions around them as they tend to be heavily abusive (at least from the videos you shared in the video). I adore stocky, round, and big hooves equines!
Same. Fjords, who are also fairly stocky, have always been a personal favorite, and I think Mongolian horses will be added to the list of faves ❤
If I play this game, I'll probably only use the actual Mongolian horses.
Same, I don't play multiple horse games for the same basic ass thoroughbreds. I want a scraggly looking lil' dude named something dumb like 'Taxes' to ride into the sunset lol
'Taxes' can I have one 'Barely Awake'
Same! I will dedicate my whole world to those lil buggers!
I have to disagree on the drama section here. Someone from a company shutting down a bigoted comment from a random user that was most likely never going to play the game anyway isn't and shouldn't be a problem.
Companies SHOULD speak against people like that user. Racist, Transphobic, and homophobic comments should be shut down.
Agreed! This comment was perfect, we really need to stop worry about racists' and homophobes' feelings.
This, these kinds of people will never actually buy the games they're getting so mad over. This wasn't a loss of a customer, it was the clever ousting of a bigot. Nothing of value was lost.
It's how she spoke to a potential customer -
The same customer that very clearly wasn't gonna get this game because of "woke nonsense" which is just clear bigotry? And god forbid people see her response and then "decide not to buy it because she was 'mean'" and then then check any of those same accounts and wouldn't you have guessed it their also anti-woke misogynist and transphobia
C'mon Rattle we can talk about her past grievances if they were silencing actual criticism but can we not give "ERM but hear them out because their your customers !!" To people upset at pronouns and the wokeness of...... pronouns
Also these people were obviously not actual past customers or fans from their previous horse games so that can't be used as an excuse
Absolutely agree. I thought the opinions on that section were a bit strange considering what was being spoken about.
yep absolutely agree, i don't think we should ever be conceding to transphobes and being mean to them isn't a bad thing, in fact it's a net good. isolate them out, they're weird and horrible and don't deserve to feel welcome. that section was probably the only part i disagreed with, sure there's actual grievances with alice in other contexts but this is absolutely not one of them.
Alice shutting down someone who antagonises queer people was actually great! I really like her response.
Especially that ppl who are commenting "they will not buy the game now" are known grifters, who wouldn't buy the game anyway. They are here just to be assholes.
Horse games try to be drama free (Level IMPOSSIBLE)
lmao for reallll
So true! It suuucks!
Gotta lock in the second this notification pops up 🤞
Whoop! :D
Something i wrote under abigail's video about the horses was that im sad that they ended up adding in the warmblood (i get it, they have to sell a game) and its not really because they dont fit the 13th century (i love when stuff is accurate but also im a strong believer that accuracy and realism shouldnt outweigh fun) but more that this game could be a breaking point of that "tall slim warmblood pretty, small stocky horse ugly" mentality and actually expose people to something different and possibly push other games to actually add in those overlooked "ugly" horses- its like a cat game not adding in sphinx cats, devon rex's, lykoi's etc because they're not 'aesthetically pleasing'. Most people form quite strong bonds with their pixel pets and more often than not- something that was really ugly or freaky to you before now you might find quite endearing purely because you ended up getting exposed and/or interacting with that certain thing
Oh! That's such a good point! Giving people the same stuff over and over means they never expand their horizons. I really don't like t he addition of the warmblood, at all.
@@YTRattle yeahh, I do kind of understand the devs ofc since well- as you said they want to sell a game so they're trying to appeal to the audience, but also I feel like alot of game developers go the "we need to listen to our community" a bit too hard, like dont get me wrong- a dev should listen to what the community has to say but also they should be able to realize when the community has an actually valid point/complaint and when they're just- either wrong, unkowledgable or ignorant- like the warmblood for example, in 13th century there wouldnt be any warmbloods and I do believe that the devs knew about it since they added it purely because people complained which is quite sad. Community is obviously the largest factor that makes the game but at the same time its like a child, they should be listened to and heard on what they have to say, and- sometimes they do have good ideas! But in the end its the parents (devs) job to dictate what is an actual good idea and what is just lack of knowledge
Yay a video about a game i'm looking forward too!... What do you mean there's Drama again?... I hope we'll be able to just avoid/ignore the warmbloods... I like these short necked cuties
I hope so too! I have no idea why they're even adding the damned warmbloods!
@@YTRattle I'm already meh about every new Dressagy Warmblood added to SSO... I didn't even watch the full video at that point so hearing about all that inaccuracy and all, the game should either come out December 2025 or somewhere 2026 cause they really should take more time to make it
For different Breeds they could have used a few other wild species of Horses that might have been in the world at the same time that had similar aesthic to modern horses so it still keeps that story from the past theme
tbh i thought her response was fucking hilarious and not rlly something that warranted the massive amount of hate and threats she was getting
I love the Mongolian horses they shouldn't cave to people who can't appreciate their lovely beauty :(
I was actually thinking how cute those horses look in game just before you mentioned the comments.
I might have misunderstood the video, but it feels like you’re suggesting the problem on Twitter is how Alice Ruppert responded to this person, who clearly has a conservative and narrow-minded way of thinking. Putting politics aside and just looking at the message, it’s the other person, not Alice, who came in with a comment clearly meant to attack her just for stating how she likes to be addressed (with her pronouns).
I get this is a business, but are we really going to let people throw harmful comments around without setting any boundaries? I don’t think Alice was disrespectful at all, nor do I think she "couldn’t handle the situation". Sure, her reply was quite blunt, but the question wasn’t exactly polite either, and honestly, ethical values should always come before business.
I feel It’s better for our community not to sink to the levels AAA games like GTA have to, just to appeal to these types of people. There’s a difference between trying to keep customers happy and trying to please people who clearly don’t respect others. Honestly, even if the game did have pronouns-anachronistic or not-what harm would it cause? These are the same people who don’t have a problem with women’s armour in games like Baldur’s Gate being ridiculously sexualised.
That said, I’m not saying horse games should only appeal to kids-like Pokémon, which has proven it can not still appeal to people in their 30s-but I also don’t see why we should tolerate people who want to feel superior and tell you how to play, dress, or think.
Honestly, I’d rather stick to the games we have now. I don’t go on Twitter (or X, whatever) ranting about how boring I find MOBAs, for example, and I don’t judge the people who play them. I love the realism in RDR and RDR2, and I don’t have a problem with violence or combat. But here’s a secret: you can have an exciting, fun, and realistic action-adventure game without combat. You don’t have to fall into the same tired tropes.
In short, I think we’re all grown up enough not to need people telling us how to think or how to see the world, and we shouldn’t be living under the influence of outdated ideologies that just want to condemn anything outside their narrow view.
hi, This is such a wonderful video. I just wanted to add/explore the idea of horses liking or disliking different kinds of terrain. I think it adds a bit of personality to the horses. but if there are roads to everywhere then whats the point of the terrain preference,, well we have to remember that this game is based in like the 1300 so the so called roads might not be too good in quality. but the point i want to get to is that what if the game starts off in the bigger villages with roads and smaller deliveries like letters and packages. and once you prove yourself good at the job you get the more difficult jobs where you have to deliver for example food and building material out to small villages out in the middle of nowhere with no roads to them.. there is where i see the terrain preferences and abilites play a massive role.
for example, you get a mission to deliver a larger sum of food to a starving village out in the dessert, then you need a fast horse that prefer the dessert terrain.
or you need to deliver building material for a village in the swamp. then you need a strong horse with good balance that can get through the mud and waters.
but i really wish there was combat in this game, like wild animals attacking you or bandits trying to steal your goods. but maybe thats just me. and these are just my thought and im sorry for the long essay, have a great day :)
This is an awesome idea! I'm going to be chatting with the team soon and I'll be sure to bring this up! Thanks for the awesome comment! (I'll give you some proper credit!)
@@YTRattle omg thank you, this made my day haha. (i went to game develompment school and i have experience in video game animation so if you want to chat just hit me up)
I love the unique look of Mongolian horses, just stocky lil fellas and it's such a damn shame they had to add a fuckin thoroughbred because people kept whining about not liking such a magnificent horse
8:05 I did not just need to be jumpscared by one of the greatest traumas of my childhood, Rattle
I'm sorry!!! 🤣
I'm hoping to get this game (depending on how it is when it comes out) and I'm making myself a promise right now to use Mongolian horses over warmbloods. They have such a charm about them (irl and in game) and deserve some spotlight!
I'm thinking (hoping) that the devs are holding some of their cards close to their chest in terms of story and setting. I'm willing to wait and see!
As for the drama...nah I think that was a fine response. Pronouns are such an innocuous part of life and anyone who makes a point of them being 'problematic' is the actual problem. I can almost guarantee that most of the people who complained about that are people who aren't even interested in the game/genre in the first place and are just looking for a fight.
I'm really happy that atleast someone is giving the mongolian horses some love, they are so cute and so full of character! Sincerely from Poland (our horses are also mildly ugly, fugly if you will)
New rattle video!!! We're so back! :D
Edit: FUCK YOU MEAN ITS CONNECTED TO WINDSTORM?????????????
It is!! No idea how... but it is!!
@@YTRattle Ostwind (Windstorm) was originally a german book series, which was turned into movies and then games later on. I personally never played the games nor read the books but watched the movies. I’m pretty sure in the movies they explain how the kind of horsemanship the main character learns comes from centuries ago in Mongolia and that also has to do with her „mentor“ carving wood statues which you can find as collectibles in the first game. (I don’t know if they explained this in the game). This is also probably the reason for the main character in this game having red hair since this ties her with the main character from Windstorm. Therefor I understood this game as some kind of prequel which plays in the past.
I find all horse breeds absolutely beautiful from Arabian to Irish cobs idk why people can't see the beauty in certain breeds like that's why I fell in love with horses as a kid and still now
Idk if it's a hot take but I think the Magolian (probably spelt it wrong cause of dyslexia so apologies) horse looks cute and cool. Something about the looks and history is so cool to me personally and gotta respect the creators of the game adding them in cause I don't think I have seen these horses in a horse game before.
I know! I love that they added them! They're so cute!
@@YTRattleHopefully they can add other cool horse breeds soon! :D
A bit off topic, but I’ve done a lot of research into the origin of certain physical/appearance based traits in humans and where they originated and there’s actually a lot of archaeological evidence to support the theory that red hair, or at least the gene for red hair, originated in what is now Mongolia, and spread from there! This is a very uncommonly known fact so I find it very surprising that they decided to use red hair for this protagonist. Do you think it was deliberate or a coincidence?
22:40 He passed in 1227... I was born 12/27 ... No wonder I seek violence nowadays...
Lol, jk, anyway, I am really looking forward to this game despite the drama (because what horse game doesn't have drama these days).
Some things I'd like to add (sorry if it's long. I love you content btw)):
- Of course, the horses look sort of "ugly" because this was way in the past before horses were bred to fit aesthetics. That's common sense, technically...
- Though it would be nice to have a horse game without violence, I'd still like there to be a "feeling of danger". The game essentially has us out in the wild, so of course, wild animals can pose a threat to us as well as robbers.
- Um, yeah, the breeding system better not have a dlc for foals, like, why was that even a thing in the first place? Oh right, money.
- Like you said, Genghis Khan was out and about before the time of the game (If the game is believed to be around that time or just an alternate universe fanfic?), so there still should be some sort of ruler or army we should be aware of as we play, even if they don't plan to add violence in the game. Plus, you said there was possible diseases going about around that time, too. It'll give us more reason to plan our routes properly to avoid soldiers, towns full of sickness, other trade routes from other npcs/players, etc. It's ok to not be totally historically accurate (even though, with this type of game strictly speaking of Mongolia, there should be), but I still would like a bit of "action" to make the game not too "cozy".
- The drama ... is sort of just an eyeroll. The response from twitter users was a bit much. Her comment seemed more like a joke, but it's Twitter. They take everything either too far and too seriously, or not far/seriously enough.
At the end of the day, if this is an action adventure, put the action in it. Otherwise, this is just a game of USPS on horses.
"If this is an action-adventure, the action in" damn straight!
I do hope they add some enemies or proper challenges into the game. A cozy game is a good idea, but it seems disjointed from what a courier rider is supposed to be: fast, brave, and thinking on their feet. But it's still early days, it might surprise us!
as someone with several paintings, plus a shrine of models of primitive horses, I was thrilled for this game. It’s sad they felt they had to add more “pretty” horse options.
Also, the whole pronoun thing is such a non-issue. Just typical cringe tier bigot basement dwellers trolling. I love “boring” games (I love Horse Isle 3, for example) so I think this game will be great for me, if only the mechanics work well and the breeding isn’t difficult lol
(I want to edit to clarify: when I said “non-issue” I specifically meant that I don’t think having pronouns in the game will effect the sales. I think horse people who are interested will purchase it regardless, and the people negging the devs about “wokeness” aren’t people who would’ve purchased anyway. Obviously, bigots being assholes IS an issue.)
the drama section was arguably just ass. i don't know why you added it. her response to the bigoted comments on her tweet was great. these people were not customers to begin with, obviously.
I'm gonna get this game no matter what. My grandpa always visited his friend in Mongolia and spend his days there. He always stayed the nights in the wild with wild camels, horses and wolves roaming around. He wrote a whole book about his journey. His friend was a semi well known throat singer "Okna Tsahan Zam. His favorite song of his was "Edijn Duun -Okna Tsahan Zam" i actually like that one even I'm not a big fan of that style of singing. I remember him visiting the Netherlands with him in his cultural outfit and traditional long braided hair😂 the day he was there he sang for us on his small guitar, it was so sweet.
Me and my grandpa were best friends and we shared a special connection like i had with no one else. He is no longer with us but because he was so familiar with the Mongolian culture i just have to have this game. I love the Mongolian horses, they look just like how I remember them too. Such a gorgeous realistic design. Finally a game who dares to be different! This is what I've been waiting for and the culture makes it absolutely perfect and so nostalgic!
Unfortunately people always ruin it for others. I do wish it stayed at the Mongolian horses. If people want to ride warm bloods, they have to wait for another game (just like I've been doing for over 10 years) or play a game that is already existing.
How amazing that your grandpa knew Okna Tsahan Zam! Can I ask how they met? You are very lucky to have such a cool grandpa!
as someone who is super excited for this game and am loving how these guys are being more open to feedback within their community, im so glad you made a video on it! of course theres drama, ugh, i was HOPING there wouldnt be. i personally ADORE mongolian horses so i am also a bit concerned why the hell they would add crossbreeding..? ghost of tsushima also did a great job on the mongolian horse breed!
I was so excited to see you in the discord, loved the video as always. Im still disappointed that they announced this game so early and dont have a ton of answers for people because "its so early. We dont know" we wont even be getting a early acess look until 25, which is fine, but I just feel they could have waited closer to release of a early access. Im glad they are doing an EA first, but im wary of all EA and this is no exception. You bring up many good points as always. Thank you for your research as always!
Thank you! I completely agree, Khiimori was announced a little too early. They can say so little about the game at this point and I get it, they don't want to lock themselves into a feature. But it's so bare bones we barely have anything. I also get the wariness to early access, we haven't had the best track record for it, have we XD
Where was the Ghengis Khan footage from?
It's from Mongol:The rise of Genghis Khan movie
I have hope. I always have hope till its shat on. I like the idea of having to plan out routes while being a mail person but if the only thing that we have to worry about is weather and terrain... What about wild animals that have gotten desperate or making sure you have enough supplies for your horse so they aren't thirsty or hungry. This game does not need to be cozy. It probably shouldn't in all honesty, shake it up add risks. We love our horses and want to make sure they make it so its all on you if they don't. I was always worried for my horse in red dead 2. I dont like that thwy added the thoroughbreds, i also blame the silly people complaining about the Mongolian horses being different. Breeding sounds alright, training seems okay, i hope they acoid the mini game bullshit. I would like the historical accuracy to be more close to accurate then not, it could be delightful.
I have no idea why they are going for the cozy idea. It's completely against the entire concept for what the game should and could be. Which is just damned sad. Maybe it's a good game, but it still can just as well be a wasted opportunity.
Locked in on the rattle video just like Tincanboodle
LOLLOL! Yay! ♥
Will you be making a video on tales of rein ravine now that the early access is out?
I get excited for any horse game that is not the normal "do dressage and save the ranch" gameplay, and I think if they get this game right, it might be one of the best horse games around. Also, Mongolian horses are adorable and I love them, and I fully plan to ignore the warmbloods and just have my little chonky Mongolian horses
I'm honestly just excited about that game. I first heard about it on TikTok and i thought "oh my god, a realistic-ish looking game where I can just run around on cute horses in stunning environments? yes please!" I just hope the horse games curse wont affect it lol
The horse-game curse strikes without remorse! 🥲
We don't need more drama and hate but people dying over pronouns need to grow up. Honestly so childish and sensitive.
Im sorry for commenting so much, but another thing I’ve picked up on is how some think it wouldn’t be cozy if we have to do things fast, and TECHNICALLY that can be true, however in the cozy gaming community we always say that a game is cozy if it makes you feel cozy! For me RDR2 is cozy, for some it’s games like Fortnite. I think this game could definitely be considered a cozy game, it just depends on the person playing it 😊
Noooo :-: noooo! COME ON! I was so glad there was no drama for once with a horse game :-:
11:02 I think they recently fixed it by adding the lunging pen, if you tighten the rope it'll train flexibility🤔
Shocked to learn people don't like Mongolian horses? They're really cute D: I love their sweet little faces and chunky legs.
I love the concept but we'll just have to see where it goes
I just want a game similar to RDO. I need something that’s open world but an MMO or where you can have a private server or lobby where my partner and I can play together. Sadly RDO is unplayable now on pc due to modders and the hundreds of bugs due to Rockstar abandoning the game. I actually finally uninstalled the game yesterday and it makes me so sad. This game looks good graphics wise, but how will the story or game play be? I’m so disappointed in horse games recently and would like a good immersive multiplayer game.
Oh damn, I absolutely get what you're saying. Unfortunately, this game won't be multiplayer, it's going to be a single player experience. AAstride will have Multiplayer and I Unbridled as well!
There are private servers on PC. Apparently there are some equestrian-themed servers on RedM, but most of the RedM servers are RP-based. You might have luck with it if you have the time to invest.
I'm super excited about this game because I like having a reason to ride my horse. You'd think I'd like doing competitions and things but I've actually always gotten way more fulfillment our of needing my horse for things, or being able to keep the same horse and put time and effort into improving it rather than throwing it out the moment a better one comes along:
Ranch of Rivershine let me keep my old horses if I was willing to put the effort into making them just as good as my newer ones and it made itself the first time in a great many games where I didn't feel like I was just wasting my time on anything less than the best. It was the first game in forever that didn't make my prettiest horse, my worst horse.
Ghost of Tsushima is a great example. I needed Kage, honest to gods that horse was amazing, they felt like a companion, they were a flawless part of the game for me and they held value in the time you spent with that particular horse. I'm really excited about them keeping that aspect in Ghost of Yotei.
Red Dead Redemption 2: You needed your horse and if you didn't kill them every 3 strides by not letting them AI path around a tree you could easily keep the same horse the whole game and they were your buddy, you did everything with them. Went everywhere on their back. Sometimes you even relied on them to tell you when something was wrong. If my horse twitched, I twitched.
Shadow of the Colossus: Agro. Just. Agro. R.I.P. buddy.
Black Desert: You get a good horse. You ride it. That's your horse and you hang onto it for everything. You train it, spend a lot of time relying on it, take care of it by keeping it alive.
There are games out there that have horses in them, but they don't generate the same value. I remember a magazine complaining about Epona in Twilight Princess having all the personality of a parked Ferrari and I've never forgotten the quote because that's all mounts are in most games. Glorified cars you park and travel on.
Then you get games where they come when you call, flying mounts and dismounts, versatility, usefulness, personality and something you put effort and training into. I hate, hate, hate how ephemeral horse games make your mounts. SSO is one of the few that don't completely invalidate your previous choices with Stats and Breeding. I can slap a saddle on my favorite old horse and have just as much a shot at new content as I did buying the new breed that week.
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I'm excited about a game with no combat where my horse matters and I hope they don't go the rout of making us chase the next finest horse and take the approach RoR did by allowing us to better our old ones as much as we can if we really want to keep them.
As much as this game seems to have potential, it being an Aesir Interactive project really speaks volumes about expected quality. I personally learned my lesson with Horse Tales - not spending money on this one until some months pass.
I LOVE how they have made the Mongolian horse personally!
Is no one going to talk about the "cocking" in the game design diagram at 4:56???
Thank you so much for pointing this out, I completely missed it and now I've been cackling for ten minutes straight XD
If they want to introduce other horse breeds I think there's plenty of ways to do that while keeping it historically accurate... The Arabian horse would be obvious as another ancient breed. If you look at paintings from Ancient Egypt or Greece the chariot horses are very obviously Arabian-type with dished faces and high set tails. Another breed I would add would be the Ferghana or Turkish horse. The Ferghana was the preferred war horse of Han dynasty China and the Turkish horse helped found the Thoroughbred breed which played a huge role in creating modern warmblood breeds, so if they want to add a historically accurate "warmblood"...
I was going to say I don't blame the game developers for not knowing niche ancient and medieval horse history but then again they are making a medieval horse game...
I think the Mongolian horses deserve the main role but having other breeds could add to the feel of a vast empire with different cultures. The game could have the other breeds attainable at different places along your route, again adding to this feel
5:00 , no cause this made my day, I'm literally going to be happy all day now🤣🤣🤣🤣❤
HAHAHA! I hate that word SO much!
if i get the game i will only just be use the mongolian horses i love chunky ponies an they very charming looking horses
Honestly it's embarrassing how people said that the Mongolian horse is "ugly". Like it's okay if you don't like them, but the game is set in (sorry i forgot the year😅), you can't pretend to have a warmblood or any other modern breed in a non-modern-age game (coming from someone who doesn't fancy neither mongolian horses and warmbloods)
I never understood the whole “you got pronouns in your bio 💀” like?? Who’s going to tell them that everyone uses pronouns?
Im not a horse person, i didnt even know horses could be so stout and short (without being a pony from my understanding) but I think they look cute? Im also a short person, so seeing a small horse that's very hardy is such treat.
Im a fan of these horse now
Omg the Mongolian horse issue really pissed me off when I first saw people complaining.... Like the freaking world doesn't revolve around Warmbloods, etc. I was and still am super excited about having a game with horses that are NOT the same usual stuff we see in every freaking game. And i really like how "chonky" the in-game ones were. They looked like a horse that could actually traverse the landscape. I'm really looking forward to playing around with them once the game's out. Others can keep their damn prancing ponies.
OMG PLEASE, what is the name of this movie ? 8:03 I know I watched it when I was little and I don't remember the nameee :(
I’m worried about the running from point A to point B also I’m worried about the historical accuracy of it
omg i love how their using mongolains! i love the breed and breed them for color in horse reality and there such beatiful and amazing horses that deserve more love. the art also looks really nice, and i love the models.
I 100% agree about mongolian horses. Adding warmbloods is like dressing the soldiers of Mount&Blade in modern uniforms bc the players found the historically accurate ones ugly, and their eyes could only bear familiar sights. The cool thing is to imerse yourself in a different timeline and culture, so it's a bit sad to ruin it with obvious anachronism.
I love your voice, there's something in it that reminds me of my mom figure, especially your laugh... damn i miss her
Ahh! I lost my mom around a year ago! ♥ I can relate to missing someone like that. ♥
Awesome video as always, and I have to agree.... the word Similarly is hard to pronounce... I tried to say it myself a couple of times because of this video, and I ended up fumbling more times than I would like to admit... XD ♥
I think the concept and horses overall looks great
Still have some questions about a few elements and a skeptical attitude cause horse tails and more 😅 but yeah why not ☺️
Great video as always !
I'm excited for this game, it sounds like it could really be awesome! I love that they are taking inspiration from ROR and RDR, I'm just hoping they will be able to implement the features they plan right as well as avoid any more drama until release.
What I'm worried about is the price, Emerald Ranch was super expensive for the state the game was released in, I'm just hoping this game won't be the same and the developers take their time working out any issues before release.
They make a historical game but dont stick to the historical component of the actual horses purely because people were whining about aesthetics? Always the wrong focus with horse games.. just own the history of the peoples and stop trying to please a crowd of people that dont want actual change in their games.
almost every horse game has drama as the cherry on top
Twitter has become AWFUL. A friend of mine's tweet also got popular because of a comment they made about a clever way an indie game textured a flag so it couldn't be easily modded (there were other reasons why the developers textured it that way too I'm sure). And because it was a pride flag, right-wing insane twitter saw it and got really upset. Apparently twitter notifies you when people "group" you (or something like that) as well and said friend got a lot of awful slurs and threats directed at them. At first it was funny but then they started commenting on the friend's other tweets and started saying how useless and stupid they were. They want to call certain people snowflakes but then shit themselves over the weirdest things
when i saw the trailer of the game i really liked it, but the animations they used really looked like the other horse game. when i knew it was them i got scared for what the future is in the game
Personally I think what would have been more ideal is instead of adding warmbloods and other coats, they should of have it where players could work on getting mutations from the Mongolian horse through breeding such of coats and body shape.. Tho its still not realistic, but I think its better than just adding more coats and breeds.
good to see you rattle!
Heyo!! Good to see you too!
I’m starting to think it isn’t possible to make a horse game without thoroughbreds, Arabians, and or warmbloods even if it doesn’t make sense for the world lol
I am just in 6 minute but it already look awsome... I will keep my eye on it :D
Sim-muh-lar-ly - you're adding an extra letter when you say it lol! Sim-i-lar-ih-ly
Time to do some research on the Mongolian horse breed and get hyperfixated in the process 😅
You will not be disappointed! They are amazing animals, and their history is equally as fascinating!
After hearing that history lesson, now I'm wondering why this game is taking place during 13th century Mongolia
Rattle's covered (at least from what I've seen which is admittedly not a lot, I'm a fairly new-ish subscriber :D) one game that wasn't about horses. I'm mildly concerned about this person's fixation on either horses or just horse games, but I also end up invested in a topic I before didn't give two-sh*ts about and fixated too. Thanks Rattle 👍
LOLLOL I talk a LOT about horse games XD
the irony that you didn't pronounce anemone right haha! (it's not an-enemy, the M comes before the N!)
Oh my God... I never knew 🤣
I love the mongolian horses, fluffy horses are my jam, and they come in so many colours and coats! I just dont like the "horsemanship" of the mongolian riders. And I think this game is going to be pretty repetative, so I dont have high hopes sadly. Would be so cool to see herds of wild horses, and maybe befriend one as a steed! Perhaps a quest where we as the player help a tribe to round up wild horses, and as a thanks are gifted any of the herdmembers.
I'm not fond of lil chonks, but c'mon
They be adorable
They be SO adorable!
I cant help but disagree with the idea that Alice was doing smthn wrong in this specific instance with the commenter. The constant idea that you need to play the middle man bcuz its whats best for the company is cowardice and capitiolist based. As the reaction showed, standing up for the companies ideals and her own only benefited them and to see a team member focus specifically on the anti-lgbtq people who set out to make others feel unwelcomed, was an appreciated sight. She did exactly what she should have and her crass response only made her intentions very clear. Intolerability will not be tolerated in their community. Good on them.
Finally a new video from you, rattle! :D Aesir interactive is one of the worst developers ever. So many bugs, ugly horses, horrible animations, bad controls, etc. I had to cancel the second windstorm game because of a game breaking bug during a quest.
Btw, you've said there are only so many horse games with the same gameplay mechanics? Yea, i agree to that. That's why i've decided to learn Unreal Engine 4 and make a horse game that is very different to a normal equestrian game with dressage, jumping and so on. My game is a mystery-drama horse game. I can't tell more though, despite that the plot is already there, because the development is in the early alpha stage. I'm currently building up the environment, working on the player character model concept art and model itself, doing quest items for later quests and in general focusing on the fundamental basics. I can not promise at all if it will ever be playable. I expect a development time of two or three years, because i'm doing it alone. Atm i'm working on Alpha Build V1.1. The Beta development Phase will start only when the fundamental landscape and gameplay mechanics are introduced and bug-free.
And therefor, if all works out well, you all could finally get an "unusual" horse game. We will see what future brings me in case of development.
To start off with the drama, personally as someone who identifies as nonbinary and uses multiple pronouns, I always enjoy when people pop off against the "anti-woke" crowd. Just being who I am, I'm always going to enjoy seeing that. Was it a good business move? No. Was it a good person move? Yes, imo, yes, it was.
With that said, I am not the biggest fan of Ruppert. I learned to take her words as a grain of salt after the crap she peddled about Emerald Valley: Horse Ranch. Like, I get that it's part of her job to promote the games she works for, but there were a lot of straight up lies with that game that she personally pushed on her blog and all across social media. And if she was being forced/coerced by the developers to say those things, then some pushback from her like the pronouns tweet would have been nice instead of straight up lying to us and helping fool all of us out of our money.
As for Aesir gaming, I haven't liked a single one of their games yet, so I'm not anticipating this entry too much. I haven't liked the other Windstorm games, and I clearly didn't like Emerald Valley: Horse Ranch. I am intrigued by Legend of Khiimori's premise. I would love to have a good game with a focus on the Mongolian courier system. It sounds interesting, but you best believe that I'll be waiting until I see evidence of a quality game before I give more money to Aesir.
Sorry for my novel lmao
I think the issue is that "similarly" only has 2 "i"s not 3 😅 I mean, it looks like it *should* have 3. But.
I hate that word. SO MUCH XD
"we don't need more drama"
-> makes a video about drama
Okay lul
8:02 How dare you bring back trauma from that scene?
Dawg Horse Games are cursed with drama, ill better go make my own game 😮💨
I've had my fair share of Alice blatantly lying at peoples faces too. Ever since I am very vary about her and her statements. I think it was only a few months that she was calling you a lier yourself?
She's literally saying anything to make herself or the projects she's involved in look better.
as unprofessional as alice's comment was, it made me laugh out loud in public.
as a nonbinary person i can't help but appreciate the support but as an adult who deals with customers i'm like "time and place!!! please!!! keep those kind of comments in the group chat!!!"
Another horse game with more drama? The only horse game that i've seen that probably has no drama outside of bugs is RDR 2.
honestly the way she reacted to blatant transphobia was pretty great. Fuck people having issues with pronouns in games. I hope there's at least a dozen pronoun options once it releases. shame about the other things i guess
I just stopped expecting things from horse games at this point
I dont get it man. Stocky horses are my favorite!
Honestly, I hope Horse Tales was just a fumble they learn from, and with this game they take what didn't work in HT and work and fiddle with and most of all improve on it. I'm just really tired of Horse Games missing the mark all the time and would like to actually try a good one nowadays without feeling like I'll be duped or scammed out of my money and shit.
But that's wishful thinking.
I personally don't trust any project Alice is involved in, they always seem to end up being a lot less than what is advertised and she comes off as passive-aggressive when there's criticism...
Nah just give me something like Ghost of Tsushima without the heartbreak and I am fine with a "action adventure maybe fighting" horse game
Honestly I will not be buying it I'm to worried there gonna give up on it like there last game
Oh FUCK nonono not the emerald valley Rach deva gooood why can't we catch a break
If they ever actually finish the damn thing then at least the controls for EVR were pretty good??? Again if anything fucking WORKS and they don't abandon the project as soon as they finish squeezing money out of it