He is 100% real. I had an inmate who found out his Mom died from his visitor. I took him into the strip search room alone and let him cry. I told him take as long as he needed. This is a 6'5" 300 lb monster. He told me how grateful he was. I didn't tell him that earlier that day I balled my eyes out because my Dad is dying. We are all men and we all have feelings. Just because I'm in Grey and he's in orange doesn't mean he's less than me. Just be a decent human and the job isn't so hard.
To piggy-back off this comment, the survivor of this very brutal crime was featured on the show I Survived, where he described the whole ordeal in detail.
I wish he had been able to talk longer and tell more stories! He is a very engaging speaker. Such an interesting episode, maybe you guys could get him back on sometime.
He seems like a genuine devoted guy who respects other humans as humans. Thats the perfect kind of person to hold a job that has so much control over others.
I think we all would appreciate this amazing guard to come back on the podcast, explain and share more. I appreciate him quite literally putting his life on the line to give us a perspective and spread a good word.
Would have been interesting to hear him discuss race relations in prison settings... he kept saying the race of the prisoners he was describing so that kinda gives insight into the dynamic there
Yeah at first I was confused at why he kept mentioning their races but it sounds like a lot of the “prison politics” have to do with racial gangs or tensions. Interesting topic that I’d like to learn more about
Racial divide is relevant on some level from standard jail all the way to hardest prison. Even in a cell block that technically has no gang members or violent offenders will still have racial politics everyone has to follow.
My dad is a prison guard and has been since 2006. We have had many moments where we worry that something has happened to him due to things happening in the prison. My mom is a counselor in the prison as well and works directly with the inmates. They are completely unarmed and have nothing to protect themselves
Wrong no idea what prison theyre in but just got out of prison and they have pepper spray rubber hullers for the “men in black” and tower guards have bullets. Are you suggesting a co carry an actual armed gun while inmates are completely unarmed and checked at every point and randomly for weapons? Not gonna happen its apart of the job
@@fitfirst7327 I know for a fact my dad only has cuffs. Unless he is in the tower. No I don’t want them to have guns. But as I said he doesn’t even have pepper spray. Only cuffs. Seeing as we had an inmate attack a guard with a box cutter and slice her up pretty badly, I would like my dad to AT LEAST have pepper spray
@@samantha19xx71 as you said “unless he is in the tower” i was just correcting this for all who are unaware of falsehoods. They are armed. In your father’s case i cant speak for i dont know if hes in min med or max. I also cant speak for the prison im just saying it paints a false narrative for those who are completely unaware how prison works. Come to think of it our transport even had tasers so all i was saying. Do things happen sure they do, dont know about a box cutter are you sure not a hand razor? Not even sure how you would get a box cutter in max or even medium. Just a lot of misinformation exaggerated is all
@@fitfirst7327 he was opening boxes in their store area and attacked the CO watching him. He works in Max and med most of the time. I’m not saying you are incorrect just my experience from the side of a guards family. I would also like you to know that I am in school for victims services and part of what I am working towards is helping people in the prison systems who have been victims themselves to get the proper and best help they need.
@@samantha19xx71 ah so see story continues an inmate did not have the box cutter it was taken from a guard. I can write this book seen a lot heard the stories 90% of what inmates get is from officers either sold or taken hard facts. You are so clean searched coming in there it has to come from an outside source just way it is. And also come to think of it in max and med they wear vests at least here in az they do. I mean they aren’t “armed” but its not a super common case case officers get outnumbered and severely hurt. Not been my experience at least
can we pls pls pls pls have more of this officer!!! he was just so interesting and i wish we could hear more of his stories and/or talk about his experiences within the prison
I remember the Bonebreaker guy--Joe Clark. He was 17 when he was committing these crimes. Thad Phillips is the kid that escaped and got this guy life plus 50 years. Hope Thad is doing well
30 years a correctional officer grade 1, my husband 32 years, resigned last year November 2020. The system here in South Africa is for inmates and not for the guards. It really got too much for us, but the biggest lesson in Prison is to make it clear that you as an individual is not corrupt, put it out there immediately, no shit and games. I’ve been assaulted by male prisoners numerous times, as a matter of fact, the last time i was attacked by an offender was February 2020. He got a good piece of me, but boy, i gave it to him, assaulting a 53 year old female correctional officer, it’s no games, but I’ve been there done that, miss it allot, clear clean record for 30years and 6 months. You must be there for the right reasons and always be proud.
Really great episode! I love what he said about integrity, honesty, and the importance of treating inmates like humans. It is such simple information that gets forgotten in corrections.
My dad is a corrections officer, He also strongly pushes anyone he knows and cares about NOT to go into that field.. he has seen some dark stuff and lost some coworkers due to mental struggles from the job... he once almost got jumped at lunch and another guard turned his head and walked away from the situation, I'm constantly worried about him.. He even just had to talk down an inmate from taking his life just yesterday, and so many more times...
Wow I pray they remain safe. It’s amazing they are doing those jobs. It’s not easy. I was once considering a job as a prison RN. I was scared. I declined to pursue it.
I'm just starting to listen to this video, and it's only my third episode from them. I really like their approach where you can't see the person telling their stories, and they seems pretty impartial which i like. I'm basically the type of person who dgaf about your opinions, I'm interested in the story, so let them talk, and I appreciate that from them.
This is such a great episode, I work dispatch for PD so I can understand what he means about it being therapeutic to talk about the stories. Overall this episode was very entertaining.. loved it. 👏🏼
I really didn’t want to listen to this episode. When I was young I worked with parts this population in a transitional care facility. I heard the stories of how harsh some guards could be. But this guy really changed my mind on so many levels. It’s inspiring to know that there are guards who do see the humanity.
After reading books written by inmates recounting the very inhumane treatment of prison guards, I have utmost respect for this man, and I am reassured to know there are good ones!
This prison guard opens up by saying what dreadful job he has - but he glories in it - his confidences with prisoners - who trust him. He revels in it.
And I'm throwing the B.S. card on several of his stories. Heard most of them before from other people at various times from various institutions. He just kinda mixes the details around. ie he's a wannabe.
Cant believe this podcast only has 80k subs people wanna watch bs but when really quality shit is posted it doesnt get the respect it deserves. At least i can say I was here this early when this finally blows up
went into this video straight up with a negative bias towards him just because of the shitty stories ive heard about prison guards but im so happy i watched this all the way through because it changed my opinion and opened my mind so much, gave me hope in people in difficult jobs like this again
the "bone crusher" he spoke about, the inmate. was a kid himself. the other kid that got away literally threw himself down the stairs with broken legs and much more, pulled himself to a phone and called 911. the "bone crusher" was doing these acts as a kid himself and would do them in his parents house while they were out of town. kid would break their bones, pleasure himself from how much he got off to the bones breaking, and then go on to have conversations with the victims acting like they were just hanging out. crazy story to research and hear things on the case. be safe all
I worked in a state Penitentiary that has all custody levels including death row. I very much enjoyed listening to this guy. It makes it very evident how prison differs from state to state. Not the dynamic of the inmates, but the tactics of officers. He's right on so many points, I wish this could have been longer. I have my own stories from prison, but listening to others' stories are refreshing and so relatable.
My mom was a correctional officer and she literally saw a guy who’d been set on fire… she had a hard time after witnessing that. She seen all this other stuff this guy had seen too and she had to quit to protect her mental health.
Same. After seeing some of my fellow officers get assaulted, I hung in there for a while, but ended up demoting out of uniform and was administration in prison for a few more years until I quit. It will forever be a huge part of my life, and an experience I will forever relate to, I will never forget, and I will always hate. But at the same time, prison was an experience that I will always appreciate for teaching me as much as it has taught me. I hope your mom is doing better now.
I just learned about the bone crusher the other day. Hes from Wisconsin and i never once heard about him till the other day when i watched a true crime story about him on YT and now i am hearing about him again. Crazy
I can relate to the first sentence already ! I work in the UK criminal justice system and only this morning I made the same comment to my colleague.... we do such a thankless job however I love my job too so its a balance and i guess something keeps me here!
he skipped over the rehabilitation question. not shocked. it is not rehabilitating people. you dont take an extremely violent and disturbed individual, place him in an even more violent and disturbing environment, and somehow expect him to get better or to use his own words “go home”.
I love this channel and how free ppl can tell their stories !!! ❤ I would love to call In and speak on narcissistic siblings, and how much slandering my older n only sister has done and still continues to keep on .
This podcast came at the perfect time, I’ve been watching a lot of Hard Time & other prison shows lately so everything this guys talking about I’m like yup I can see that happening.
@@cmmiestcat I don’t mean about himself /personally/ I’m talking about how they ask what it’s like w the job position etc... don’t take stuff so damn literally JFC are you insane?
Concerning the story about the inmate and a female staff member having sex, I'd just like to make clear that HIV (which turns into AIDS over time) is, in the modern day, treatable by current medicine. Currently it is currently not able to be put into complete remission or removed, and will require life-long medication to treat. But it is possible now for the HIVirus to have its viral load brought to such a low amount that a test for HIV will display as negative (or undetectable). This test would be inaccurate, yes. A person will still have it. But this person can have, with regular treatment, what more or less looks like a perfectly normal and healthy life because the virus is under control and scarce in its presence in the person's body. Although, this story might have unfortunately happened before this treatment was developed. In which case, that... sucks. :(
Came here for this comment. HIV is a completely manageable infection in 2021. U=U which means undetectable equals untransmittable. Obviously this is a horrible circumstance, but HIV is not a "death injection."
Yes there are medications to manage HIV and keep the viral load low, but those medications costs between $1800-4500/mo in the United States. Not to mention the lifetime of labwork and extra doctors appointments that an HIV patient now has to have because they were infected without their knowledge. The lifetime cost of HIV medications is over $250,000 and sometimes over $400k. So it might not be a lethal injection, but it's definitely a lifetime of medical bills and worry. I don't know about you, but I and many people would be mad as hell being saddled with those costs and extra risks for the rest of their life. It may no longer be a death sentence, but intentionally infecting someone with HIV and not telling them is tantamount to physical assault and a financial burden.
Great episode guys! This guest was really articulate and gave us some good insight on things most of us don't think about. Now you need to land a guest who does the lethal injections 👀
Great podcast! I think some background on the upbringing of the people you’re talking to would be valuable. It would show how they got to that position/career and you can learn some more of their motivations. I think this would make it more impactful to understand how much they hate/love their job and Your show is in fact called other people’s lives, and not other people’s careers! 🙂 Best of luck, I’m sure y’all are just getting started
You both seem like great guys. Your guests are incredibly interesting. Love the show. Would be a good idea if you can both take a class on interviewing guests, leading a story so that it has a beginning, a middle and an end.
So weird to hear the story about the guy that breaks the kids bones. I've listened to that story over and over on other podcasts from the kids perspective!
This prison guard had really interesting stories and was very well spoken and seems like he wanted to make his job and the prisoners there run as smoothly as possible. He was not on an ego trip or exaggerating. He brought humanity to a rough job around very rough prisoners. But you two could have asked better questions. I know it’s good to let the caller talk freely but at least ask some under questions or probe a little more on certain stories and about him as far as his career.
my husband was a sergeant in the maximum security unit of the women's prison and he always says that was the hardest job he's ever had and will have in his career
Junkies are typically safe in bad areas. They are looked at as ATMs by the gangs. Anyone messing with them gets approached as if they were stealing from their ATMs. I'd imagine prison has a similar dynamic.
He is 100% real. I had an inmate who found out his Mom died from his visitor. I took him into the strip search room alone and let him cry. I told him take as long as he needed. This is a 6'5" 300 lb monster. He told me how grateful he was. I didn't tell him that earlier that day I balled my eyes out because my Dad is dying. We are all men and we all have feelings. Just because I'm in Grey and he's in orange doesn't mean he's less than me. Just be a decent human and the job isn't so hard.
❤️❤️❤️❤️ love this.
Youre genuinely a good guy
That's a great way to be. We need more empathic people in the world 🌎
God bless you, you're such an angelic human. People really just have no empathy for each other anymore.
@@rofrankie947 yea they do. Try to spend less time looking at social media and more with real people
This podcast is so underrated it’s crazy 10/10 thought provoking content right here
This!
Agree
Agreed! I absolutely love this pod cast.
We should nominate them for one of those webby awards that I can’t remember the name of.
Honestly though! As soon as I started listening to this podcast I knew it would be good!
Hearing this guy talk about the inmate who’s fetish was to break kids bones is the reason I believe in the death penalty
To piggy-back off this comment, the survivor of this very brutal crime was featured on the show I Survived, where he described the whole ordeal in detail.
@@jelliiifiiish don't think i would be able to hear someone talk about that first hand 😖
@@jelliiifiiish I looked into it, it's season 5, episode 18.
I remember listening to a podcast about this. I think he was a younger dude. Let me see if i can find the episode.
Yep he was 17 when he committed the crimes.
“ I’m not a killer but I know some killers “ … why this mans spitting bars lowkey😭😭
I wish he had been able to talk longer and tell more stories! He is a very engaging speaker. Such an interesting episode, maybe you guys could get him back on sometime.
Same bit disappointed.. they could have gone deeper.
I could listen to this guest and his stories for hourrrssss
The M&M story is literally insane and actually really smart like how does someone think of that😭
This guy needs his own podcast
He seems like a genuine devoted guy who respects other humans as humans. Thats the perfect kind of person to hold a job that has so much control over others.
I love this guy. He’s the type of people that make the world a better place. Great episode
I think we all would appreciate this amazing guard to come back on the podcast, explain and share more. I appreciate him quite literally putting his life on the line to give us a perspective and spread a good word.
Would have been interesting to hear him discuss race relations in prison settings... he kept saying the race of the prisoners he was describing so that kinda gives insight into the dynamic there
Yeah at first I was confused at why he kept mentioning their races but it sounds like a lot of the “prison politics” have to do with racial gangs or tensions. Interesting topic that I’d like to learn more about
You should watch 60 days in, even some of the clips show a lot of the gang and racial dynamics in jail
@@Keedy95 Male prisons are sub-divided by gang affiliation and race. Tony Rafael explores this in his book Mexican Mafia, which is a great read.
Racial divide is relevant on some level from standard jail all the way to hardest prison. Even in a cell block that technically has no gang members or violent offenders will still have racial politics everyone has to follow.
There isn’t really much to discuss besides they’re all divided into their own groups and each group hates each other
My dad is a prison guard and has been since 2006. We have had many moments where we worry that something has happened to him due to things happening in the prison. My mom is a counselor in the prison as well and works directly with the inmates. They are completely unarmed and have nothing to protect themselves
Wrong no idea what prison theyre in but just got out of prison and they have pepper spray rubber hullers for the “men in black” and tower guards have bullets. Are you suggesting a co carry an actual armed gun while inmates are completely unarmed and checked at every point and randomly for weapons? Not gonna happen its apart of the job
@@fitfirst7327 I know for a fact my dad only has cuffs. Unless he is in the tower. No I don’t want them to have guns. But as I said he doesn’t even have pepper spray. Only cuffs. Seeing as we had an inmate attack a guard with a box cutter and slice her up pretty badly, I would like my dad to AT LEAST have pepper spray
@@samantha19xx71 as you said “unless he is in the tower” i was just correcting this for all who are unaware of falsehoods. They are armed. In your father’s case i cant speak for i dont know if hes in min med or max. I also cant speak for the prison im just saying it paints a false narrative for those who are completely unaware how prison works. Come to think of it our transport even had tasers so all i was saying. Do things happen sure they do, dont know about a box cutter are you sure not a hand razor? Not even sure how you would get a box cutter in max or even medium. Just a lot of misinformation exaggerated is all
@@fitfirst7327 he was opening boxes in their store area and attacked the CO watching him. He works in Max and med most of the time. I’m not saying you are incorrect just my experience from the side of a guards family. I would also like you to know that I am in school for victims services and part of what I am working towards is helping people in the prison systems who have been victims themselves to get the proper and best help they need.
@@samantha19xx71 ah so see story continues an inmate did not have the box cutter it was taken from a guard. I can write this book seen a lot heard the stories 90% of what inmates get is from officers either sold or taken hard facts. You are so clean searched coming in there it has to come from an outside source just way it is. And also come to think of it in max and med they wear vests at least here in az they do. I mean they aren’t “armed” but its not a super common case case officers get outnumbered and severely hurt. Not been my experience at least
can we pls pls pls pls have more of this officer!!! he was just so interesting and i wish we could hear more of his stories and/or talk about his experiences within the prison
I remember the Bonebreaker guy--Joe Clark. He was 17 when he was committing these crimes. Thad Phillips is the kid that escaped and got this guy life plus 50 years. Hope Thad is doing well
thats exactly who I thought of too but I am not sure if there are other similar cases it could be another creep
This was insane! But only because his normal life is obviously way abnormal and morbid to the rest of us. Thanks to him for sharing! He’s a brave man.
30 years a correctional officer grade 1, my husband 32 years, resigned last year November 2020. The system here in South Africa is for inmates and not for the guards. It really got too much for us, but the biggest lesson in Prison is to make it clear that you as an individual is not corrupt, put it out there immediately, no shit and games. I’ve been assaulted by male prisoners numerous times, as a matter of fact, the last time i was attacked by an offender was February 2020. He got a good piece of me, but boy, i gave it to him, assaulting a 53 year old female correctional officer, it’s no games, but I’ve been there done that, miss it allot, clear clean record for 30years and 6 months. You must be there for the right reasons and always be proud.
This episode was awesome but I seriously can’t get over Greg’s wife standing in the background like 🧍🏻♀️ behind the lamp 😂😂
Really great episode! I love what he said about integrity, honesty, and the importance of treating inmates like humans. It is such simple information that gets forgotten in corrections.
This guy was so so wholesome, socially intelligent and a fantastic guest. Wish him the best!
My dad is a corrections officer, He also strongly pushes anyone he knows and cares about NOT to go into that field.. he has seen some dark stuff and lost some coworkers due to mental struggles from the job... he once almost got jumped at lunch and another guard turned his head and walked away from the situation, I'm constantly worried about him.. He even just had to talk down an inmate from taking his life just yesterday, and so many more times...
Wow I pray they remain safe. It’s amazing they are doing those jobs. It’s not easy. I was once considering a job as a prison RN. I was scared. I declined to pursue it.
prayers for you and your family! Thats gotta be a bit hard on all!
You can never lock up creativity. Loved this episode.
P.S. 47:14 for Joe spilling his coffee and wiping it with his pants
I'm just starting to listen to this video, and it's only my third episode from them. I really like their approach where you can't see the person telling their stories, and they seems pretty impartial which i like. I'm basically the type of person who dgaf about your opinions, I'm interested in the story, so let them talk, and I appreciate that from them.
This is such a great episode, I work dispatch for PD so I can understand what he means about it being therapeutic to talk about the stories. Overall this episode was very entertaining.. loved it. 👏🏼
Thank you for what you do! That is definitely not a job that just anyone can manage.
I really didn’t want to listen to this episode. When I was young I worked with parts this population in a transitional care facility. I heard the stories of how harsh some guards could be. But this guy really changed my mind on so many levels. It’s inspiring to know that there are guards who do see the humanity.
After reading books written by inmates recounting the very inhumane treatment of prison guards, I have utmost respect for this man, and I am reassured to know there are good ones!
This episode was great! I could listen to him tell stories all day
This prison guard opens up by saying what dreadful job he has - but he glories in it - his confidences with prisoners - who trust him. He revels in it.
And I'm throwing the B.S. card on several of his stories. Heard most of them before from other people at various times from various institutions. He just kinda mixes the details around. ie he's a wannabe.
I get the feeling he likes the white gangs a little too much.
I love how early these are posted... this is how I spend my first hour of work 🙂
Cant believe this podcast only has 80k subs people wanna watch bs but when really quality shit is posted it doesnt get the respect it deserves. At least i can say I was here this early when this finally blows up
Are we gonna ignore the fart at 5:27?😂😭
They farted a few times
Omg stop, he even lifted his leg 😂😂
One of the best episodes yet!
Excellent podcast! I could listen to this guy for day's!!
Bring him back!!! This episode was so good time went by so fast!
I am so obsessed with this podcast. Thank you guys for everything you do 🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼
I absolutely love that he speaks to them with respect, that's amazing 👏 👏 👏 👏
This guest was absolutely fascinating. I’m supposed to be WFH from right now but I’m engrossed in this episode. Great work y’all!
went into this video straight up with a negative bias towards him just because of the shitty stories ive heard about prison guards but im so happy i watched this all the way through because it changed my opinion and opened my mind so much, gave me hope in people in difficult jobs like this again
Keep it up guys, I love love love your content here!
I seriously love this podcast so much! This was one of my favorite ones thus far!
the "bone crusher" he spoke about, the inmate. was a kid himself. the other kid that got away literally threw himself down the stairs with broken legs and much more, pulled himself to a phone and called 911. the "bone crusher" was doing these acts as a kid himself and would do them in his parents house while they were out of town. kid would break their bones, pleasure himself from how much he got off to the bones breaking, and then go on to have conversations with the victims acting like they were just hanging out. crazy story to research and hear things on the case. be safe all
I really really enjoyed this episode!!!! woooo keep it up
I worked in a state Penitentiary that has all custody levels including death row. I very much enjoyed listening to this guy. It makes it very evident how prison differs from state to state. Not the dynamic of the inmates, but the tactics of officers. He's right on so many points, I wish this could have been longer. I have my own stories from prison, but listening to others' stories are refreshing and so relatable.
My mom was a correctional officer and she literally saw a guy who’d been set on fire… she had a hard time after witnessing that. She seen all this other stuff this guy had seen too and she had to quit to protect her mental health.
Same. After seeing some of my fellow officers get assaulted, I hung in there for a while, but ended up demoting out of uniform and was administration in prison for a few more years until I quit. It will forever be a huge part of my life, and an experience I will forever relate to, I will never forget, and I will always hate. But at the same time, prison was an experience that I will always appreciate for teaching me as much as it has taught me. I hope your mom is doing better now.
I just learned about the bone crusher the other day. Hes from Wisconsin and i never once heard about him till the other day when i watched a true crime story about him on YT and now i am hearing about him again. Crazy
Much respect to this gentleman and I have all the confidence that he will to do good for the world around him
I just listened to a podcast about the bone crusher, so heartbreaking. Good for you keeping his ass where he belongs! Thank you sir
I can relate to the first sentence already ! I work in the UK criminal justice system and only this morning I made the same comment to my colleague.... we do such a thankless job however I love my job too so its a balance and i guess something keeps me here!
he skipped over the rehabilitation question. not shocked. it is not rehabilitating people. you dont take an extremely violent and disturbed individual, place him in an even more violent and disturbing environment, and somehow expect him to get better or to use his own words “go home”.
That m&m story is amazing
This guy is incredible, also, te way he talks reminds me of Anthony Jeselnik.
Get this guy back on the show! Lol
Now interview a maximum security officer at a norwegian prison.. 🤭
I was a correctional officer in a high security prison for 8 years. Hated that job.
we're close to the 100k!!!! you guys deserve it!!
I love this channel and how free ppl can tell their stories !!! ❤ I would love to call In and speak on narcissistic siblings, and how much slandering my older n only sister has done and still continues to keep on .
Love the ‘Helping Other People’ initiative! Well done, you guys!! 🥺🥺
Just got home from working third shift. Time to have a drink and listen to my fav podcast! Happy Thursday! Love you guys 💛
This podcast came at the perfect time, I’ve been watching a lot of Hard Time & other prison shows lately so everything this guys talking about I’m like yup I can see that happening.
Great episode! Was very interesting
My husband is a guard at a max security prison. He never talks about work, ever.
*asks this guy a question about himself*
*finds a way to not answer the question and tell them a prisoner story instead*
He can’t talk about himself. As he said it’s to maintain anonymity
He has to… he literally said all this, did ya not pay attention?
Viv are you deaf? He literally said that he can't talk about himself... Are you okay?
@@cmmiestcat I don’t mean about himself /personally/ I’m talking about how they ask what it’s like w the job position etc... don’t take stuff so damn literally JFC are you insane?
@@MsNoPixel I mean in general he ignored every question and told a prisoner story. It’s a TH-cam comment don’t take everything so literally
Bring him back! I could listen to him for hours!!
Concerning the story about the inmate and a female staff member having sex, I'd just like to make clear that HIV (which turns into AIDS over time) is, in the modern day, treatable by current medicine. Currently it is currently not able to be put into complete remission or removed, and will require life-long medication to treat. But it is possible now for the HIVirus to have its viral load brought to such a low amount that a test for HIV will display as negative (or undetectable). This test would be inaccurate, yes. A person will still have it. But this person can have, with regular treatment, what more or less looks like a perfectly normal and healthy life because the virus is under control and scarce in its presence in the person's body.
Although, this story might have unfortunately happened before this treatment was developed. In which case, that... sucks. :(
Came here for this comment. HIV is a completely manageable infection in 2021. U=U which means undetectable equals untransmittable. Obviously this is a horrible circumstance, but HIV is not a "death injection."
Yes there are medications to manage HIV and keep the viral load low, but those medications costs between $1800-4500/mo in the United States. Not to mention the lifetime of labwork and extra doctors appointments that an HIV patient now has to have because they were infected without their knowledge. The lifetime cost of HIV medications is over $250,000 and sometimes over $400k. So it might not be a lethal injection, but it's definitely a lifetime of medical bills and worry. I don't know about you, but I and many people would be mad as hell being saddled with those costs and extra risks for the rest of their life. It may no longer be a death sentence, but intentionally infecting someone with HIV and not telling them is tantamount to physical assault and a financial burden.
To me is how the fck you get convinced to fuck an inmate ? I’m assuming she’s a guard
Joe and his coffee at the end 🤣
This podcast needs millions of followers!
Great episode guys! This guest was really articulate and gave us some good insight on things most of us don't think about. Now you need to land a guest who does the lethal injections 👀
Great podcast! I think some background on the upbringing of the people you’re talking to would be valuable. It would show how they got to that position/career and you can learn some more of their motivations. I think this would make it more impactful to understand how much they hate/love their job and
Your show is in fact called other people’s lives, and not other people’s careers! 🙂
Best of luck, I’m sure y’all are just getting started
That one dislike is an inmate 🤣🤣
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@@chatman4998 it was 1 when they first uploaded
@@Throughthegalaxies1 obviously
@@chatman4998 You corrected me though
@@Throughthegalaxies1 I didn’t I just commented the updated number of dislikes
You both seem like great guys. Your guests are incredibly interesting. Love the show. Would be a good idea if you can both take a class on interviewing guests, leading a story so that it has a beginning, a middle and an end.
Great episode!
Loved this episode
what a great episode, very interesting. I am a CO for Juveniles so it is interesting to compare the adult and juvenile facilities
One thing: this guy might have hated his time working in the prison service, but it sounds as if he enjoyed working there! He is a great story teller.
Clicked immediately, this is about to hit
Sounds like he worked at the prison on the west end of Canon city Colorado. It is very old but rather majestic looking. Castle looking buildings.
Really interesting interview.
So weird to hear the story about the guy that breaks the kids bones. I've listened to that story over and over on other podcasts from the kids perspective!
Give these guards a pay raise.
Agreed. Also completely reform the prison system.
This prison guard had really interesting stories and was very well spoken and seems like he wanted to make his job and the prisoners there run as smoothly as possible. He was not on an ego trip or exaggerating. He brought humanity to a rough job around very rough prisoners. But you two could have asked better questions. I know it’s good to let the caller talk freely but at least ask some under questions or probe a little more on certain stories and about him as far as his career.
Joe's candle in the background hit different this episode. Also, Greg's wife appearing out of the blue as he's talking about her lol
Yeah, my dad never wore his uniform to & from work. He was cognizant of the dangers that came with being recognized by the wrong person.
Omg the bone breaker guy! His survivor has told his full story on I Survived. The killer was like 18 or something! Crazy!!
5:31 Joe literally rocks to one side and does a fart 💨That is too funny
my husband was a sergeant in the maximum security unit of the women's prison and he always says that was the hardest job he's ever had and will have in his career
A womans prison isnt as bad as a male prison. Tell him to be a man and toughen up smh...
Yes another episode!
Great interview
Should have asked him his thoughts on Epstein lol
Absolutely
I used to work in an addiction recovery center for youth and 75% of things were deterred by staff being present and aware of what was going on.
Loving the Helping Other People initiative 😊
Please have this guy back again in the future.
Joe spilling his coffee at the end 😂
Great episode, bring him back for more stories. Think about bringing random guests on for more random questions and different perspectives.
Joe cleaning the spilt coffee with his pants at the end hahahaha
Love this episode.
1:58 “Joel” lol
When i was in prison the COs didnt do anything except walk around in circles and sit in the break room😂
Junkies are typically safe in bad areas. They are looked at as ATMs by the gangs. Anyone messing with them gets approached as if they were stealing from their ATMs. I'd imagine prison has a similar dynamic.
Coffee Joe!! 😂😂😂😂 Multi purpose clothing 👍😁
There's no one more dangerous than a man who has nothing to lose.
What he describes sounds a lot like the old Kingston Penitentiary.