"I won't be a burden anymore" fucking HURT. Seeing the shift from pinocchio being a little brat to just a little boy who wants to be loved makes it tug at the heartstrings more. Del Toro just really knocked it out of the park in so many ways.
I loved that Pinocchio was never portrayed as bratty or even a bad kid, he was just hyperactive, innocent and curious about everything just like kids are. Guillermo version of the character was incredible charming and heartwarming.
If being a little brat means being a little, innocent, ignorant boy, who was just born. Technically weren't even the best children in the planet little brats?
One of my favorite parts from Del Toro's Pinocchio was when he went to church against his father's wishes and when people saw him, a living puppet, they thought he was a demon, an abomination. Which was ironic since the Blue Fairy character who brought him to life called herself "a guardian" or "messanger" hinting that she was an Angel or something like it. Then later when his father finished building the crucifix, Pinocchio pointed out that it was made out of wood and asked why people loved he Jesus crucifix, but hated him because he didn't know the context. There were so many layers to it with war and religion. Del Toro is a genius.
Damn I’ve never seen the movie but that was pretty heavy. There was a time when Disney at least put half as much thought into all their stories… I wish they’d go back to that…
@@Zlittlepenguinyeah it's sad how Disney doesn't care as much. Now other studios are becoming more popular. Hopefully people forget Disney one day, and all of the good directors and animators can go to other studios that actually care about their movies and shows.
@@Brittney_Reacts_ I mean occasionally they pull out a great movie like Encanto, but yeah right now they are just relying on Marvel, Pixar, and Nostalgic pandering to make money.
@@zeldagameryt4018 To be honest the music in Encanto is great but whether someone considers it to be a good or bad movie is up to their interpretation.
100% agree with you! Not only did Guillermo execute an original take, he was able to make a unique ending that was touching, sad, and a hell of a lot better than what Disney shoved down our throats. I do pray more creative directors and crew get a chance to shine like this!
Regarding Del Toro’s version: The stop motion animation was incredible but the story structure was off And I didn’t feel a genuine connection between gepetto and this Pinocchio I don’t understand where Guillermo’s focus was
It was bittersweet. I think the ending was perfect to the story's theme overall. Like death is something that happens and we lose loved ones and it's a good story to fill in for children to prepare them about life and to also cherish one another
@@Brittney_Reacts_ They won't because they don't give these talented Directors freewill to do their thing. Look at James Cameron do you think he works with Disney? He owns Avatar even though 20th century fox is a Disney merger. Disney is go woke go broke. Check out Mouseguard an epic Lord of the Rings movie with sword and sandal Mice. It Was going to be a photo realistic film like the way the Lion king was. Directed by Wes Ball (Maze Runner) Guess what it got scrapped bt Disney. Shows you they care abt money. As a Filmmaker and writer hoping to work with Paramount pictures, my Agent advised me to pitch my epic fantasy film script like the hobbit with a whole Black characters to Paramount. I'm glad he didn't go for woke Disney.
As a father to a son, the opening scene showing the events that led to Pinocchio's creation was an emotional punch in the gut. I'm glad no one was home to see my waterworks. 🥺
so much. as the scenes with Carlo were extending, i could see the devastation arrive. this was crushing in advance. also Gepetto's struggle to accept Pinocchio as he is. i have a son that is ADHD, and nobody is prepared for a baby that is in motion 24/7. i saw my son in Pinocchio. he's now 10, i showed him the movie, he really loved it.
One of the geatest changes in Del Toro's version was changing Pleasure Island to a youth military camp. It really makes the line "They don't come back as boys." much more dark and real. Sure, tuning into a donkey is terrifying, but it's not real. Children getting drafted into the military is something that has happened and probably does in some parts of the world.
@sewer~rat Because the other boys that we see cowering as donkeys never get rescued. They will live as donkey slaves for the rest of their short, miserable lives. It's one of the darkest things that's ever happened in an animated film aimed at children. All they wanted was a little fun.
@@Gwyllgi but that's just fantasy...while soldier boy would literally die or end up crippled, traumatized or insane...and that's a thing that happens in real life
@Sauron from Mordor if you know the whole production of stop-motion, it didn’t take 2 and half years. Making a figure from scratch takes 4-6 months. There were a lot of figures in this movie.
You know what's crazy? Both films were produced by the Jim Henson company and you see a massive difference between a director with a big heart and a soulless corporate company
5:34 My great-grandfather was almost arrested for this reason, his children weren't allowed to go to school because he wasn't a member of the fascist party and didn't have a party card. Eventually he was forced to sign up so he could continue putting bread on the table for them. It's great to see such an important and dark moment of my country's history staged so well by such a great artist.
@@georgeeastwood6930 I don't really know cause I wasn't there, but I've studied it in school and I've heard the stories of my grandma and the elders that remember that period, and I found a lot of similarities: 1) The way Candelwick's father is represented is very accurate, he really looks like a fascist hierarch and also the thing he said about being a "good model of italian virility" is pretty on point. Also the part in the church when Candelwick's dad asks Pinocchio "who controls you, wooden boy?" and Pinocchio replies "who controls YOU!", that line is gold. Considering the hyper-militarized culture of fascist Italy, the ministery of education pushed very much the idea of taking orders from the ones above you without questioning or thinking about why are you doing it, or if it's right. "if the boss tells you to do something, you just do it, he knows better after all" kinda like a puppet with no free wil. 2) The child military camp in wich Pinocchio and Candlewick are trained was a real thing, they were called "balilla camps", the fashist government really pushed the narrative of militarizing citizens since childhood, there's also a similar camp rapresented in "Jojo Rabbit". The part where they sing and dance to teach the idea of war as a game through the use of songs and theatrical performances for children about bringing glory to Italy is also correct. 4) The way Mussolini is rapresented is hilarious but pretty accurate, his facial expressions and poses in particular, if you look at footages of his speeches from that time you will see that.
@@Brittney_Reacts_ it’s exactly like you said, they’re too busy pumping out nostalgia bait rather than making actual art. I look forward to that marvelization video!
All Disney reboots are a letdown. The only one I liked a little was Dumbo but that's because I like Collin Farrell and Eva Green more than the movie itself.
@@jefffiore7869 Sad to say but not even Colin Ferrell's Outstanding performance in The Batman could have saved That Crappy Movie. Way to ruin My Favorite Character Matt Reeves. 🥴
@@jorge5275, what the fuck are you talking about? Colin Farrell played a character in Dumbo. Jeff was talking about the character Farrell played in Dumbo. He wasn't talking about the Penguin or The Batman at all. Whether you think the movie is good or not is your business and not mine to butt in, but damn, atleast read the comment and understand what it's even talking about.
I like how in del Torro's version, Gepetto build Pinocchio when he was at his lowest, angry, drunk, frustrated and hopeless... That was such an interesting take on the story and character!
I watched both the versions with my kids. In Disneys version by kids were not even interested and were distracted half the time. With Guillermo's version, I was hesitating to show it to them because of the sad tones but as soon as I started to watch they heard a few sounds and rushed in to cuddle. Today we had a third viewing of it and we cannot get enough of it. Though watching it does bring talks like death, despair and burden but if handled nicely it probably wont make kids that sad and would actually make them understand. (Few scenes made us cry as well)
I think it's a great way for kids to get into contact with the topic of death. Too many people try to ignore it and when it happens they end up like Geppetto. By the end we see Pinocchio understanding death and handle it in a manner completly opposite of Geppetto. Guillermo said it's not a kids movie, but a movie that can be watched by kids. Might be true, but I think it's really good to show them, since most children media just treats them like idiots without an understanding of the world.
kids are smarter than a lot of people think. An adult's vision of what a child would enjoy or understand is often petty wrong, especially as the child gets older. They know what they like and if they see something they dont understand they'll ask about it, and thats how they grow. You can enjoy disney's version, but guillermo's is so much more emotional and thought provoking, and those two things are NOT exclusively enjoyed by adults.
The thing that I like about this movie is the Pinocchio design, it's much more like a wood and it would make more sense that it's unfinished and more humanoid like, the point is that Disney's pinocchio is rather bland, making it seem soulless
Del Toro's Pinocchio really showed that animation is for everyone, not just children. It covers topics I never really would have thought an animated film would take on, and it did it so astonishingly well. You're given these characters with imperfections in a corrupt society and through the characters imperfections you are able to feel for them and relate to them on a much deeper level than you might with characters in other films. It was carried out very nicely overall and I hope that it's paved the way for more animated films like it in the future.
I feel disneys Pinocchio caters more towards children. A kid wouldn’t be able to understand Gillermos and would probably be scared. I’d show it to a 12 year old because it has so many lessons and personally was a tear jerker for me. As many years as it took for Guillermo’s, It should be appreciated more and not watered down to just another stop motion. I love disney, and their live action Pinocchio was wonderful, that being said, they’re both catered to different audiences and that’s okay!
All of Guillermo del Toro's films will be absolute classics for years. A great combination of Gothic and Lovecraftian Horror, emotional investment,soul,good story and world building,and artistic visuals.
I agree with everything. Del Toro worked for 15 years in this, because he wanted to do what he wanted to do, the best way possible. So it was hard for him to get enough budget and it almost got scrapped until netflix appeared. So with all the budget he needed he made the piece of art not only he wanted to do, but the one pinocchio we didnt know we needed. So glad it could came to life, its really unique and succeeds in every aspect it want to succeed. Disney has enough budget to make literally anything they want, yet they seem just to want more, all those things you said about them trying so hard to make references the public can understand and such is basically fanservice. They want to sell, they dont put a heart in it because it seems like the people in charge just dont have one. Some people say that in marvel they cared lately more about quantity over quality. A lot of movies that have disney behind may have a lot of nice cgi (or maybe not, maybe in cgi they are starting to settle with less) or beautiful 3d worlds, but their stories are hella predictable. Repeating patterns, playing safe, or just doing the bare minimum because they know that if it has disney in it people will take it as a quality mark. Del Toro did what his heart told him, along with the professionals that took part in the journey of making Pinocchio, and its proof that, with enough budget and enough love for what you do, you can achieve wonderful things to share with the world.
It's kind of how the very exceptional movie, Everything Everywhere All At Once, showed MCU's Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness how to do multiverse right. 25 million USD budget as compared to MCU's 200 million USD budget
@@jefffiore7869 I still havent watched everything everywhere all at once, but im assuming that the budget was used by marvel more for the visuals than any other thing
@@youtubewontletme It had a lot of CGI shots too, not as many as MCU though. Their CGI team was 5 guys on Apple computers using Adobe After Effects and they did a great job too.
As a kid I never found anything funny about Disney cartoons, and I only liked about half of their animated movies. At the time, Disney did the R&D and technical innovation so others, such as Warner Bros, could make us laugh. These days, Disney isn’t even doing the R&D. And their business model is black-hearted villainy.
the stop motion is way more visually cohesive because you can tell that all of the characters and settings exist in the same physical space and can actually interact with each other, and then on top of that (like you said) there’s just such a level of intentionality to every movement and design choice. you can so easily tell that del toro’s pinocchio is a movie made with care
The fact that we almost didn't even get Guillermo's Pinocchio. Like I knew it was going to be good, I love his work, but I'm so amazed and grateful that Netflix gave it a chance
As an Italian I can say that Disney's version looks to me like a real cultural theft, while in Deltoro's movie there is also a giant act of love to my country and my culture: even if he modified the story from the original novel he captured it's spirit, where Disney's version (even in the old cartoon) didn't even try to do It. If you want ti see another very good adaptation of Pinocchio you should see 2019 version from the Italian director Matteo Garrone: is a very good movie pretty close to Collodi's (the author) original story.
Yeah even though the del Toro version is (originally) in English they still have some characters speaking Italian in the background. In the Disney version, they have over-the-top fake Italian accents that would be considered racist if it was directed at any other culture. But of course Disney only cares about cultural representation if it’s currently relevant.
I would like to throw in that the little boy cast as Pinocchio in Del Toro’s version was amazing. The song when he comes to life was difficult to sing and I was already invested in him. Also as a mom, Gepetto questioning his choices as he remembers what having a toddler around is like. I loved it all.
I would also like to mention the voice directions in these two Pinocchio films, Guillermo De Toro version is being taken serious and chose the right actors for each character to show more life while the live action Disney version just got the big name actors and tell them to voice the characters with no tone or make an effort which it sucks
Yo soy de Argentina pero también me siento muy feliz por el éxito de Guillermo y todo su talento. Me da esperanzas de que tal vez en el futuro pueda tener un destino similar
@@claudem7991 Because he adapts or bases his stories from Europe, I dont mind, for example The Labyrinth of the Faun, my favorite Guillermo's del Toro is set in Spain. how boring it would be that he makes movies just to incorporate Mexican culture? or Latinos just because his Mexican, do not limit Guillermo with the American race issue going on, he is Mexican not American. Or you want him to start making crappy movies just to be woke??
You got it exactly right about the "humor" in the Disney version and nobody talks about it with del Toro's. Not only did del Toro make an emotionally better movie, his version is also hilarious at parts. Disney tried to go for their, now typical, dumb reference humor. When I first saw the characters "heil" in del Toro's I laughed out loud. When Geppetto walks up to the sailor on the dock and you hear the tink of a mine in the water it was hilarious. And Tom Kinney as Mussolini was so funny. The reason all of those things were funny is because they were presented normally and frankly. Disney tries so hard to be "funny" that they forget what's actually humorous.
I also love how he used lots of old school animation humour (idk what to call it) instead of cringey punchlines that sound like they're supposed to be accompanied by a laugh track. for example when the cricket was trying to stop pinocchio from going to church and got smashed by the door. you rarely see that in animated movies nowadays anymore and it was so refreshing
The Del Toro version was STUNNING. He pulled talented people from other shows like Fantastic Mr. Fox and Over the Garden Wall. It was filled with passion and love, and so much creativity that the industry has been lacking lately.
Man, Deltoro's intro was so heart wrenching, u know what's gonna happen to Carlo, but you don't know how it's gonna go down, then they make u love the guy only to take him away, I was "oh no..." from Carlo's first frame...
Few movies (or maybe none) made me cry a little at first, but this Pinocchio did it :'( Especially when the planes began to be seen, I was like NOOOOOOOOOO
I remember I saw the Del toro's pinocchio movie with my sisters, and by the end of the movie, the three of use were bawling our eyes out crying. And I swear, I haven't cried that much for a movie in years. It made me feel emotions! Something that movies nowadays don't do.
It’s pretty simply a case of profit vs passion. If Guillermo’s movie was guaranteed to not make a single cent but it was still green lit to be made he would do it because he’s a passionate storyteller that simply loves the craft!
As a working artist I can tell you that for me the real dark side of Disney is their insanely well-funded contempt for the entire original concept of "Public Domain". That's why I'm very glad your channel popped up today. Your presentation is clear and perceptive and your snark-free love for the medium makes the whole thing totally persuasive. Beautifully said from start to finish! I'm now a subscriber.
I would love to see Guirrermo start remaking all the fairy tales as Walt Disney did because we need someone new to take the thrown. Disney has lost the spark that originally made the company great which is really sad. Even the Pauly Shore Pinnochio was better than the Disney version
As someone who grew up with the book, I adored how del Toro incorporated so many elements of the original story, while giving them his own personal interpretation! The schoolbook, the Cat and the Fox, the black rabbits, the Land of Toys… I find it good that you mentioned how to depict Pinocchio in a live-action movie, because there have already been many live-action adaptations that dealed in many different ways with this problem: most just have the actor of Pinocchio in some make-up and his iconic clothes; some, like the 1996 "the adventures of Pinocchio" or the 1967 "Turlis Abenteuer" used a real puppet; and then there's the 1972 miniseries by Luigi Comencini, which came up with this great workaround: since in the original tale Pinocchio starts off as a living piece of wood, we have him be that here too, and use a puppet for the beginning. then the Fairy enters the picture and turns him into a real boy (with a real child actor), on the condition that he behaves. so anytime he misbehaves, the puppet comes back. And at the end of the story, to show that Pinocchio is now permanently a real child, we see him alongside his old wooden body!
Guillermo Del Toro DESERVED an OSCAR for "Pans Labyrinth"...One of the most unique stories and a tragic or happy endings you could ever experience...Depending on your view of the world or human mind...
At 9:46, I want to point out that the last time Disney really cared about their movies was Who Framed Roger Rabbit. The animation director, Richard Williams only worked on the film to be able to create his passion piece “The Thief and The Cobbler”. Williams worked on the movie for 29 years, I believe. He started in 1964. Some animators at Disney worked on the film, and after a while, Disney, under the company MiraMax bought the rights to TTATC. They put a new director on it, while working on Aladdin. Disney stole essentially the whole plot and characters from TTATC, and put it on Aladdin. Princess Jasmine is based off of Princess Yum-Yum, Aladdin is based off of Tack the cobbler, even Jafar and his bird were stolen! The original villains name was ZigZag, he had a pet vulture and plotted to marry Yum-Yum for the throne. There’s a version of the genie, the witch, too. Even the Sultans are similar! The movie was never finished, and only released after the director was changed and Disney tried to have it released as soon as possible after Aladdin. They completely changed everything about the movie, and changed the name to Arabian Knight. On the DVD cover, they even put Princess Yum-Yum and Tack on a magic carpet to make it seem like a cheap knock-off of Aladdin. It makes me sad to see Disney only be a company for money, and not making any real story of themselves. Most, if not all of their original movies are not their original stories. They were stolen from folktales or myths, mainly from the Brothers Grimm. Disney never even truly gave credit, and calls their princesses “Disney Princesses” though they didn’t create them. The worst part about The Thief and The Cobbler is that Richard Williams died in 2019, so we’ll never truly see what he intended the movie to be like. There is a version called the Recobbled Cut here on youtube which is as close as it can be to the original story. It was made by Garrett Gilchrist. I’d like to mention originally the thief and Tack were supposed to be mute, too but Disney made them speak and added some horrible musical numbers. I wish that the majority of Disney’s most famous movies weren’t stolen, but I guess not all wishes are meant to be true.
Honestly i can agree Guillermo Del Toros Pinocchio is wayyy better like you said it needs flavor for the movie to work and it worked bc i cried at the end😭
I absolutely agree with you. I think Disney's live action version of Pinocchio is a sugar-coated, bubble wrapped, half-hearted first draft of the beautiful, emotionally deep, stunningly animated story that Guillermo del Toro gave us with the same characters. You can ACTUALLY SEE the tears in Geppetto's eyes when he is weeping for his lost sons. You FEEL his grief and his pain in those moments. I wept for him, I felt so bad. The animation was stunning. The songs were heartfelt and sweet. And I actually REALLY ENJOYED the fact that (unlike any other version of Pinocchio I have seen) this one actually lets us see Geppetto with his first son and how deep and strong that bond is...so when he is lost, we also feel that loss because we have become emotionally attached to the character. Its not just mumbled at us with no context for the emotion. I liked how they chose to do the ending. It almost feels like the two sons were entwined in a way. Geppetto had his beloved Carlo and we see the beautiful bond they share and how Carlo is helping his Papa create the Crucifix in the church and it is Carlo who finds the perfect pine cone to plant as a new tree, so that he can follow in his father's footsteps as a woodcarver. But then, when Carlo dies, Geppetto plants the pinecone on his son's grave and the tree grows, but Geppetto's grief causes him to stop building the Crucifix....but then, when Pinocchio comes to Geppetto, he comes from the tree that was made by Carlo's special pinecone. Pinocchio helps his papa to finish the Crucifix that he started with his first son.
Disney's Pinocchio is also everything wrong with parenting today where we do not talk about sadness, loss, failure and struggle and try to portray a rosey happy picture of life. This would simply break a person as they grow up.
See, making bad stop motion just isn’t worth doing, and then the only people left to make stop motion are people who care about what they’re making and out the effort in to make it great
I honestly never bothered watching Disney's version to begin with. Like you said Brittney, Del Toro gave his film heart and soul. Every scene had a purpose, which drew towards deep messages at the conclusion. Meanwhile, Disney is all about two things these days: nostalgia and superheroes! Even if there is an original idea out there (IE Strange World), it's mostly pushed aside (underpromoted) and the money is made up by the next Marvel/re-make project! In that regard, I would love to see your analysis on the dominance of Marvel these days and why creativity became undervalued.
Well, and we can't say the media helps much, the only thing they focus on in the movies is "There's an LGBT scene/character in it!" as if it were the highlight of this and leaving everything else out. I went to see Buzz Lightyear in the cinema, I turned to see my side for literally a second and when I looked back at the movie the kiss scene that everyone and the media were talking had already passed
@@ivanelugo Yes, exactly! They shout about Lefou being gay in the remake of "Beauty and the Beast", they say the brother from "Jungle Cruise"is gay, they talk about the blink and you miss it lesbian kiss in "Rise of Skywalker". It's almost 2023, by now Disney needs to stop caring what overseas places will complain about and quit just giving us winks and nudges in the movies proper.
@@phousefilms well, what I was referring to is like the media, like the news and stuff, and people make too much of a scandal about it, with the strange world it's like the fifth "first Disney LGBT character" that the news talks about and is not talked about nothing else outside of the topic of inclusion, I mean, I feel that they force it a lot by announcing things like that rather than focusing on the content of the film, everything they talked about the kiss generated controversy and it was the most that was talked about about that film, and it was something for a second, for me Buzzlightyear seemed like a weak movie, mostly because of the characters like the pen guy, but if I say that I didn't like it now they'll tell me that I didn't like it because I'm "homophobic", because that It was the excuse they made to refer to those who did not like the film as if the film revolved around the kiss and LGBT content.
Also there's a very similar scene where Pinocchio lies to make his nose grow to get out of a situation. In the Disney movie this goes directly against the themes of the movie to be a good boy and it's very odd. But in Del Toro's Pinocchio, this follows the theming of the movie of not just subjecting to absolute obedience and accepting of authority's demands; Del Toro's Pinocchio encourages us to think for ourselves and do what's right
Guillermo Del Toro wanted to make a movie where the only character that doesn’t behave like a puppet, is the puppet. Where Disney wanted to make it relevant, Del Toro’s version brought a new perspective to the Pinocchio story and was inspiring.
Just saw Guillermo’s version last night and was hooked from the start. Want a masterclass in film making and storytelling. Disney needs to humble themselves and take note because Guillermo deserves awards for his work.
i never really cared about pinocchio’s story and i didn’t even remember it, well i just want to say that now, the Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio became my favorite movie
I’ve said this to myself after seeing both: Guillermo Del Toro takes his story to places that Disney would never dare to go. You’ll never see Disney make anything new with drinking, guns, fascism or genuine loss anytime soon
Great video! You got a new subscriber. As mexican, I feel very proud for Guillermo del Toro and the mexican artists who worked on "Pinocchio". I think there's no mistake to say that this movie was made with love, a wonderful story that should resist the trial of time and touch the hearts of the generations to come. On the other hand, Disney's version will be forgot soon, thrown to the cultural dump.
@@Brittney_Reacts_ The fact that they keep on making live action remakes of their old movies which nobody asked for says a lot about the company not accepting criticism.
"Disney is still good at animating stuff " Um, STRANGE WORLD is in all the Godzillaplexes right now, and it's all the evidence you need to know Disney ISN'T still good at "animating stuff."
We should keep in mind Disney animators arent the ones in power, they just do the job. If they’re told to so a cheap money grab, they have to. I feel like the biggest issue with Disney is the CEO who is too money focussed in stead of putting love into their work
Disney has some of the best talent in the world but Pinnochio isn't done in studio. It's VFX and mainly outsourced to the cheapest studios possible. The VFX artist are also talented but they had no time as Disney wanted to release their film before Del Toro. Absolutely rushed job artist barely slept to meet the deadline and for what 😔
The difference is del Toro is an artist who puts passion into every movie he does. He keeps entire journals full of sketches, designs and notes dedicated to the film he’s working on. He is a master of his craft and this is just another fine example.
I'm glad these two movies came out when they did. There needs to be more filmmakers out there like Mr. del Toro who can still do something original with something familiar to all of us, and make it great. And there needs to be more instances like this to show everyone (including those who work at Disney) that just because they slapped the famous mouse on a film, doesn't mean it's a masterpiece. Honestly, they're just mocking Walt's legacy at this point. He'd be rolling in his grave if he saw what his name has become. Loved your video too and I look forward to more. You earned a sub from me!
This is the difference between a project done with passion and a project done for dollar signs. Sure to a degree all films/shows/media exists to also make money, but passion can still guide a project that isn’t only looking at profit. Disney is fully capable of making great films or even great Pinocchio films, they just chose not to really bother with it because they are trying to rake in cash while doing the least amount of work and effort. Because quite frankly you can’t tell me that the same studio that did the Cinderella remake (which was actually very good) isn’t capable of mustering up a half way decent and watchable film of their classics. They’re fully capable. They just don’t wanna put in the effort like those direct to video sequels.
Quality will always triumph I just knew that once we tapped out CGI, that everything would come back around to handmade beauties like this movie. Stop motion will always have a place
I thought I would watch GDT's Pinocchio again, soon. But every time I see any clip, I cry. And I'm not emotionally equipped to do that to myself. Maybe in a month.
Personally, despite the live-action remake's massive and soulless flaws, I'm really happy it exists. Because not only did it make me love the original animated Disney's Pinocchio movie a thousand times more than I already did (aswell as prove that the animated classic is the best one to show to future kids as an introduction to Disney at its best), but it also made me love Del Toro's telling and spin on the story a whole lot more than I had hoped to ^^
@kimixachi94 Exactly. Thats what M.Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender did. It gave us a heap of cringe and frustration on how bad it got, but it made us appreciate the original show a whole lot more because of the night and day comparison in storytelling and quality
I rewatch the original Pinocchio on VHS, and never watched the remake , I feel like rewatching it as an adult their was alot of flaws , like the last time he went with honest John it was straight up kidnapping and everyone told him he disobeyed his father again , it was also campy - but the monstro design is still terrifying .
Disney: /tries to release live action Pinocchio this year to ensure that this property is still associated with Disney before anyone else Also Disney: /it hurts itself in confusion
I wish people at Disney would watch these kinds of videos because it would genuinely help them. It’s like you said at the end, they used to tule story telling and animation, it wasn’t that long ago people would still get excited when they announced a new project, lately though they’ve just been phoning it in and it’s sad
There was an Epic Rap Battle of History video in 2015 (Stan Lee vs Jim Henson vs Disney) and Disney describes what the company does as "cranking out magic and assembly line whimsy" and it was good then but it's sad how well it aged.
What I also really like about the intro to Del Toro's Pinocchio, is that it's framed through Gepetto's grieved memories of his son. So of course Carlo seems impossibly obedient amd perfect
The irony is that the opening shot of this video is one of the better parts of the remake because there’s Keegan Michael Key in it. And Del Toro still blows it out of the water. I love how Del Toro’s movie has a lot of plot points that come from the Disney remake - Geppetto having a lost son, the whale not being a whale, escaping the not-whale by tapping your feet, Pinocchio not becoming human at the end and growing his nose to escape a tight spot - but given context and making sense.
I saw both. The Disney's Pinocchio was so difficult to watch. My daughter and I could not get over the fact that they added a CGI cat! Like, why? And then you have Guillermo del Toro, who, in my opinion, is one of the best directors of our generation. He puts his heart and soul in everything he touches, and you can see it. His version of Pinocchio was so beautiful and with so much story. He's so passionate about his work, but as you mentioned, Disney is an assembly line machine that just keep reproducing bad product trying to appeal to nostalgia.
Looking at Disney's Pinocchio my mind went straight to Labyrinth, the 80's movie with David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly, it's a well known phenomenon that when perceiving bad media the brain will try to protect itself by remembering good media XD That movie had CGI but mostly used physical puppets made by the Henson company and they are really life-like because people took care animating each part of the puppets, not just their bodies but also things like mouths and eyelids. The most used puppet is that movie is for the character Hoggle and it took FOUR people plus an actor inside the puppet to manipulate him cause he's so detailed.
Guillermo Del Toro's Pinnochio is a masterpiece. As far as I'm concerned, it's the best version of the story(including the 1940 Disney film, which was also brilliant). I rank this animated film right up there with "The Iron Giant" and "Coraline" for its art design, visuals and for the serious take on mature themes in a kids film.
For me the worst part of the Disney remake is that it completely throws away the story of free will, redemption and humanity that the original animated one is about. The new one turns Pinocchio into a victim of circumstance who just goes along with things happening to him. He faces no consequences for his decisions and therefore doesn’t learn anything. That makes him less human. Him becoming human through his personal growth, actions and development of his conscience is supposed to be the point of the Pinocchio story. Not only is the movie cringeworthy to watch, but it doesn’t inspire new viewers with any moral lesson. In fact it might leave a negative impact on impressionable viewers.
Another thing is too is the comparison between monstro's of both movies, they are also both night and day. Del Toro cast the monster closer in resemblance to the Dogfish from the original book and yet it also reminds me of monstro from the Disney animation, a very large, mutated whale, but in the Disney plus version, they made monstro look just like a plain generic mutated kaiju rip off, just throwing the designs of a humpback whale, a blue whale, a barracuda, a Kraken, a great white shark, and a bony fish. Blended that all together, and say, "here you go, here's your generic make-believe", instead of trying to make it look like something that could exist. Just lacking in originality and laziness to capitalize on nostalgia while Del Toro actually makes a monster look like a creature that resembles a whale rather than some generic make-believe we repeatedly see. Just my further thoughts on the matter.
Husband when I begged him to watch Del Toro Pinocchio was like "holy cow, 2 hours?!" then we were both hugging and crying at the end. And throughout admiring the superb animation.
It's actually really interesting how many plot points the two adaptations share, but GdT's has enough more changes to make those points actually work to build a cohesive story with an actual point.
I didn’t want to like Del Toro’s (Netflix) version, but the whole family loved it, myself included. Del Toro’s was dark and dealt so well with loss and grief. There was so much emotion there, we laughed and almost cried 💖
I had such a different feeling watching this movie, I was taken in, I felt the emotions it wanted me to feel and it was truly beautiful. Whereas the Disney one had so many moments and choices that were just nonsensical. And don’t even get me started on the jokes. And I didn’t even hated it per se, but like you could almost feel the people who made it going like “yeah that makes no sense but who cares they’re gonna eat it up cuz we’re Disney” like the fact Pinocchio was already aware of what’s good and evil, missing the entire point of the character. This version however felt more real and not just because of the stop motion. You got and understood everybody’s motive and reasoning, and their choices were coherent and based. I just wish modern Disney cared about their IPs enough to treat them with respect and letting authors remake their movies instead of just using them as nostalgia cash grabs
Another commentator mentioned that to him the clock scene was the most iconic scene of Pinocchio how each clock was so beautifully crafted and animated showing how much love went into the original film. There was actual heart and emotion. In the remake it was replaced by product placement which was a completely unintentional reflection of what has happened to Disney. What was once filled with heart and brought it's viewer magical and original joy has been replaced with dull and soulless cash grabs that can no longer write a beautiful original story. (Please don't Encanto as a contradiction to this statement)
I was lucky enough to see Deltoro’s Pinocchio early in a small theater. I’m so glad I got to pay actual money to see this movie. It deserves a wide release. Everyone should see it. I would gladly go see it in theaters again. The entire thing wasn’t afraid to use certain imagery and parallels to get across its point. It was beautiful, and it was a fresh interpretation of these beloved characters. And the part when Pinocchio first and Ghepetto first meet was simply 👌. This film made me laugh and cry. It was fantastic, and in my opinion a true classic that i genuinely think will hold up for generations. Bravo. I also saw the Disney live action remake. It’s hands down the worst out of the live actions to come out, by far. There’s nothing of value. It wasn’t even good for a laugh, which my friends and I originally tuned it on for. Was this fair? Perhaps not at first, but considering the way the movie turned out it was justified we had such low expectations. But I at least expected it to be on the “good cringe” spectrum. What I got was ugly, boring and completely washed of all the charm the original Disney Pinocchio carried. In certain places, it wasn’t even fully rendered properly, there was literal glitching in the renders that point to the fact that Disney did not pay or give the special effects team they outsourced enough time. (A common reason why films like these turn out so cheap and ugly looking.) Yes, even that horrible Pinocchio movie with Polly Shore was better than Disney’s. At least I laughed at it, at least it left me with some thing fun and positive-the memes. There’s no memes of the live-action Pinochio. It was brought up exactly three times this year, when the crappy Polly Shore version came up, when itself released, and now in comparisons to a much more competent and compelling movie, making it look even more pitiful.
It was so good. This winter we had three generations watching this movie and we all loved it. From 5-80 years of age we all love this movie. Guillermo del Toro needs to remake fairytales. There are so many stories all over the world.
I loved how much the del toro version reminded me of movies like Coraline and a nightmare before Christmas. Not just the stop motion aspect, but the aesthetic and the themes too
Guillermo Del Torro's Pinocchio was SO GOOD. Like, the stopmotuon was AWESOME, the script was awesome, and a script that some of us can relate to, and shows different sad scenarios that would've happened in WW2. I hope Guillermo Del Torro and his team know what an amazing and fantastic job they did, EVEN BEATING DISNEY!
I agree. Disney tried to change nothing or do anything new with the same stuff and actually made it less serious with taking lots of the adult stuff from it. Guillermo is a master at his craft and man the animation was amazing.
I LOVE Del Toro’s Pinocchio! I love the fact they made Geppetto a man versatile of many emotions (aside from joy), such as grief, fear, and despondency, and how his drive to creating Pinocchio from being broken about his lost son. The Disney Geppetto was seen as someone incapable of feeling nothing but love (aside from some sadness from his son) and it really didn’t have many dark plots to help drive the good. The only thing I liked really from the Disney live action version was Monstro’s design as a chimeric sea monster but that’s about it.
I agree 100% with everything you just said, the constant thrash disney makes and also the praise given to filmmakers who still go above and beyond to make a good story better. I am definitely subscribing. Thank you.
Walt Disney and his company have always been shy about this story. Carlo Collodi’s themes in Pinocchio have always been more serious than Disney wanted to acknowledge.
Walt Disney wanted to make wholesome family entertainment with every fairytale he certainly sugar-coated them! But his 1940 animated film of Pinocchio while certainly sugar-coated and a departure from the source material it's a masterpiece of animation and a real showcase of what hand-drawn animation can do! You know every filmmaker is going to approach these stories in their own way and Walt Disney had his own way!
Imo disney has always more or less been like this.. it's just a bit more extreme now, like even the original 1940 Pinocchio was so ripped from the source material to something more pop relevant
Watching Del Toros Pinocchio made me feel like a child, where you obsessively rewatch it over and over. I watched it like 5 or 6 times in one week. So good
I love how the Disney version has Pinocchio not really doing anything bad at the pleasure island. You know. the way he was supposed to? Be naughty so he would turn into a donkey as punishment and later learn his lesson and be a good boy? In stead in the Disney version he is basically kidnapped to pleasure island and he is just observing other boys do bad things. There is no arc. All the 'naughty' moments from the original have been removed because Pinocchio was never in the wrong. He didn't choose not to go to school. He was kicked out. He didn't choose to go to pleasure island. He was kidnapped and once there he didn't drink, didn't gamble, didn't participate in the vandalizing etc. Where. Is. The. ARC???
I 100% agree with you! Did you hear the news about Bob Chapek (the man behind a lot of Disney’s sh*t decisions) being fired and Bob Iger (the previous CEO) taking over again? I think this is a great start! Chapek was overall a very problematic CEO.
I would say that Disney’s Pinocchio turned out the way it was not for a lack of trying. The director was Robert Zemeckis, co-writer/director of Back to the Future. The CGI team are the same people Disney and the rest of the industry lean on for big movies like the Avengers, and while they become more reliant on green screens and adding things in post, the workload grows for these studios without an increase in time to work on these things. They are not unionized, so the big companies take advantage of them. All of these people work within the restrictions set by (once again) the big companies just to churn out profits and increase their margins in the short term, while the industry suffers in the long term.
Guillermo made a Life through the movie, its has a heart and soul! I was sobbing on the movie Disney is losing its magic. They just made it for the buck
For me it was how Disney made Pleasure island into something that didn't even have the same meaning as in the animated one. Guillermo Del toro's did the youth training camp with the paintball and confetti game and I think that perfectly encapsulates the something terrible and life threatening being turned into fun and ultimately seeing the consequences in a brutally unforgettable way. Like seriously Rootbeer, Disney?!
I didn't even watch the Disney version, but when I heard of that I had no hope for it. "Sugar is bad kids! It'll turn you into donkeys!!!" As opposed to smoking, drinking and gambling being the thing they're supposed to stay away from. That waters the message down to nothing. 😭
It’s especially sad when you compare both of Disney’s Pinocchio’s. The original had so much passion and love put into it so everyone could enjoy it, and it’s still one of my favourite movies to this day! But the new one just feels like “Here’s another cash-grab until we pump out another 3d animated merchandise maker that is either gonna be decent or absolutely suck (*cough* Encanto *cough* Strange world) and with song that are going to make you want to jump out the window” What happened Disney?
Del Toro did such a good job at getting pinnochio to be nearly unbearable and bratty in the beginning, to actually growing to understand the weight of the world and how to navigate it. You slowly fell in love w him, and, as a parent, you relate to Japetto. His expectations, his feelings, especially if you’ve experienced childloss and then had children afterwards. He literally made me and my husband feel represented in this movie by showing how incredibly hard those feelings and frustrations hit, how hard you battle them to be the best person you can be for your children as well. Honestly Del Toro’s makes me cry every time I watch it. It’s a work of art, and Del Toro (as per usual) obviously did his homework on the psychology behind a parent coping w childloss, and literally every other aspect of this movie.
RIP Disney. couldn't be bothered to watch Disney's because it's shitte and I finally had it since lion king. Del Toro's Pinocchio, on the other hand, I will watch it again. El dente!
I just love stop motion pictures! It is a love letter to craftsmanship and a lot of work to make these films. Like Coraline,The Nightmare Before Christmas,Paranorman etc. In this day and age where almost everything is digital it is refreshing to see this old fashion way of movie making. This movie is also very dark it kinda reminden me of El laberinto del fauno which is even more dark. Great stuff Brittney!
Well in Disney's defense, del Toro is quite honestly at the top of his craft. I joke, Disney is a terribly run company and deserves every ounce of criticism.
"I won't be a burden anymore" fucking HURT. Seeing the shift from pinocchio being a little brat to just a little boy who wants to be loved makes it tug at the heartstrings more. Del Toro just really knocked it out of the park in so many ways.
I loved that Pinocchio was never portrayed as bratty or even a bad kid, he was just hyperactive, innocent and curious about everything just like kids are.
Guillermo version of the character was incredible charming and heartwarming.
If being a little brat means being a little, innocent, ignorant boy, who was just born. Technically weren't even the best children in the planet little brats?
"His nose didn't grow when he called me a burden."
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@@paperbag0018 well, in the original book he was actually shitty and is a little jerk so.. he even killed the cricket in the book-
@@seekittycat THAT part stabbed me in the heart so bad 😭😭😭
One of my favorite parts from Del Toro's Pinocchio was when he went to church against his father's wishes and when people saw him, a living puppet, they thought he was a demon, an abomination. Which was ironic since the Blue Fairy character who brought him to life called herself "a guardian" or "messanger" hinting that she was an Angel or something like it. Then later when his father finished building the crucifix, Pinocchio pointed out that it was made out of wood and asked why people loved he Jesus crucifix, but hated him because he didn't know the context. There were so many layers to it with war and religion. Del Toro is a genius.
Damn I’ve never seen the movie but that was pretty heavy. There was a time when Disney at least put half as much thought into all their stories… I wish they’d go back to that…
Not only that, but the messenger had 6 wings and many eyes, also hinting that it was an angel
I personally think it’s a seraphim
@@Zlittlepenguinyeah it's sad how Disney doesn't care as much. Now other studios are becoming more popular. Hopefully people forget Disney one day, and all of the good directors and animators can go to other studios that actually care about their movies and shows.
It’s ridiculous how an independent filmmaker managed to make a better Pinocchio movie than Disney who I think has lost their magic over the years.
They have definitely lost their magic in recent years. Here’s to hoping they can get it back!
@@Brittney_Reacts_ I mean occasionally they pull out a great movie like Encanto, but yeah right now they are just relying on Marvel, Pixar, and Nostalgic pandering to make money.
@@zeldagameryt4018 Encanto? Great Movie? That thing is overrated
At this point, Tinkerbell is running on fumes and has no more magic to give to the lifeless movies the company is spitting out
@@zeldagameryt4018 To be honest the music in Encanto is great but whether someone considers it to be a good or bad movie is up to their interpretation.
When Pinocchio said, "why they like him, he is made of wood like me but they like him but not me" man that line made me literally cry.
Okay, that hurt me so badly. Gotta admit!
100% agree with you! Not only did Guillermo execute an original take, he was able to make a unique ending that was touching, sad, and a hell of a lot better than what Disney shoved down our throats. I do pray more creative directors and crew get a chance to shine like this!
Disney should hire better writers and directors. They’ve been cheap on the talent lately.
Regarding Del Toro’s version: The stop motion animation was incredible but the story structure was off
And I didn’t feel a genuine connection between gepetto and this Pinocchio
I don’t understand where Guillermo’s focus was
Has me and my 7yr old tearing up at the end and have been listening to the soundtrack and talking about the movie often since watching last week
It was bittersweet. I think the ending was perfect to the story's theme overall. Like death is something that happens and we lose loved ones and it's a good story to fill in for children to prepare them about life and to also cherish one another
@@Brittney_Reacts_ They won't because they don't give these talented Directors freewill to do their thing. Look at James Cameron do you think he works with Disney? He owns Avatar even though 20th century fox is a Disney merger. Disney is go woke go broke. Check out Mouseguard an epic Lord of the Rings movie with sword and sandal Mice. It Was going to be a photo realistic film like the way the Lion king was. Directed by Wes Ball (Maze Runner) Guess what it got scrapped bt Disney. Shows you they care abt money. As a Filmmaker and writer hoping to work with Paramount pictures, my Agent advised me to pitch my epic fantasy film script like the hobbit with a whole Black characters to Paramount. I'm glad he didn't go for woke Disney.
As a father to a son, the opening scene showing the events that led to Pinocchio's creation was an emotional punch in the gut. I'm glad no one was home to see my waterworks. 🥺
so much. as the scenes with Carlo were extending, i could see the devastation arrive. this was crushing in advance. also Gepetto's struggle to accept Pinocchio as he is. i have a son that is ADHD, and nobody is prepared for a baby that is in motion 24/7. i saw my son in Pinocchio. he's now 10, i showed him the movie, he really loved it.
One of the geatest changes in Del Toro's version was changing Pleasure Island to a youth military camp. It really makes the line "They don't come back as boys." much more dark and real. Sure, tuning into a donkey is terrifying, but it's not real. Children getting drafted into the military is something that has happened and probably does in some parts of the world.
Not only drafted, by brainwashed and broken too.
I preferred Pleasure Island more, but I liked both versions. Pleasure island was darker to me.
@sewer~rat Because the other boys that we see cowering as donkeys never get rescued. They will live as donkey slaves for the rest of their short, miserable lives. It's one of the darkest things that's ever happened in an animated film aimed at children. All they wanted was a little fun.
@@Gwyllgi but that's just fantasy...while soldier boy would literally die or end up crippled, traumatized or insane...and that's a thing that happens in real life
Probably ? Lol
Guillermo said it took him and his production team 14 years to finish this production. That’s amazing and such dedication. Wonderful movie!
@Sauron from Mordor if you know the whole production of stop-motion, it didn’t take 2 and half years. Making a figure from scratch takes 4-6 months. There were a lot of figures in this movie.
Damn. 14 years in the making is a lot of patient and commitment.
You know what's crazy? Both films were produced by the Jim Henson company and you see a massive difference between a director with a big heart and a soulless corporate company
Yeah…I wonder what Henson would have done with his take on the story ☮️
Wow! Guillermo Deltoro and The Jim Henson Company, both? No wonder it's so good.
5:34 My great-grandfather was almost arrested for this reason, his children weren't allowed to go to school because he wasn't a member of the fascist party and didn't have a party card. Eventually he was forced to sign up so he could continue putting bread on the table for them. It's great to see such an important and dark moment of my country's history staged so well by such a great artist.
Was life in fascist Italy anything like in this tale on “Pinocchio”?
Thank you for sharing. This is so hard to imagine, and we need reminders of our history.
@@georgeeastwood6930 I don't really know cause I wasn't there, but I've studied it in school and I've heard the stories of my grandma and the elders that remember that period, and I found a lot of similarities:
1) The way Candelwick's father is represented is very accurate, he really looks like a fascist hierarch and also the thing he said about being a "good model of italian virility" is pretty on point.
Also the part in the church when Candelwick's dad asks Pinocchio "who controls you, wooden boy?" and Pinocchio replies "who controls YOU!", that line is gold. Considering the hyper-militarized culture of fascist Italy, the ministery of education pushed very much the idea of taking orders from the ones above you without questioning or thinking about why are you doing it, or if it's right. "if the boss tells you to do something, you just do it, he knows better after all" kinda like a puppet with no free wil.
2) The child military camp in wich Pinocchio and Candlewick are trained was a real thing, they were called "balilla camps", the fashist government really pushed the narrative of militarizing citizens since childhood, there's also a similar camp rapresented in "Jojo Rabbit".
The part where they sing and dance to teach the idea of war as a game through the use of songs and theatrical performances for children about bringing glory to Italy is also correct.
4) The way Mussolini is rapresented is hilarious but pretty accurate, his facial expressions and poses in particular, if you look at footages of his speeches from that time you will see that.
@@pietro9845 yet Pinocchio is LESS of a puppet than everyone around him.
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Even before del Toro’s Pinocchio dropped, Disney’s reboot was a letdown at best.
Very true 😢
@@Brittney_Reacts_ it’s exactly like you said, they’re too busy pumping out nostalgia bait rather than making actual art. I look forward to that marvelization video!
All Disney reboots are a letdown. The only one I liked a little was Dumbo but that's because I like Collin Farrell and Eva Green more than the movie itself.
@@jefffiore7869 Sad to say but not even Colin Ferrell's Outstanding performance in The Batman could have saved That Crappy Movie.
Way to ruin My Favorite Character Matt Reeves.
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@@jorge5275, what the fuck are you talking about?
Colin Farrell played a character in Dumbo. Jeff was talking about the character Farrell played in Dumbo. He wasn't talking about the Penguin or The Batman at all.
Whether you think the movie is good or not is your business and not mine to butt in, but damn, atleast read the comment and understand what it's even talking about.
I like how in del Torro's version, Gepetto build Pinocchio when he was at his lowest, angry, drunk, frustrated and hopeless... That was such an interesting take on the story and character!
I watched both the versions with my kids. In Disneys version by kids were not even interested and were distracted half the time. With Guillermo's version, I was hesitating to show it to them because of the sad tones but as soon as I started to watch they heard a few sounds and rushed in to cuddle. Today we had a third viewing of it and we cannot get enough of it. Though watching it does bring talks like death, despair and burden but if handled nicely it probably wont make kids that sad and would actually make them understand. (Few scenes made us cry as well)
That’s a nice story. It goes to show companies like Disney think kids are too dumb to feel the quality of a good film.
I think it's a great way for kids to get into contact with the topic of death. Too many people try to ignore it and when it happens they end up like Geppetto. By the end we see Pinocchio understanding death and handle it in a manner completly opposite of Geppetto.
Guillermo said it's not a kids movie, but a movie that can be watched by kids. Might be true, but I think it's really good to show them, since most children media just treats them like idiots without an understanding of the world.
kids are smarter than a lot of people think. An adult's vision of what a child would enjoy or understand is often petty wrong, especially as the child gets older. They know what they like and if they see something they dont understand they'll ask about it, and thats how they grow. You can enjoy disney's version, but guillermo's is so much more emotional and thought provoking, and those two things are NOT exclusively enjoyed by adults.
Seeing Mussolini brings back memories.
@@pokaay3163 perfectly said.
Guillermo’s version actually made me LOVE Pinocchio, I didn’t like the original and never bothered with the Disney live action.
Too bad I guess.
The thing that I like about this movie is the Pinocchio design, it's much more like a wood and it would make more sense that it's unfinished and more humanoid like, the point is that Disney's pinocchio is rather bland, making it seem soulless
Save yourself the braincells. I saw ONE recent live action and wanted to die
Del Toro's Pinocchio really showed that animation is for everyone, not just children. It covers topics I never really would have thought an animated film would take on, and it did it so astonishingly well. You're given these characters with imperfections in a corrupt society and through the characters imperfections you are able to feel for them and relate to them on a much deeper level than you might with characters in other films. It was carried out very nicely overall and I hope that it's paved the way for more animated films like it in the future.
If you're up for it, I recommend 1988 animated movie Grave of the Fireflies. Really touches on similar subjects and definitely not for kids.
I love how much he respects the medium
You should watch the animated “Marry And Max” it covers extremely relevant topics, and it’s stop motion as well!!
I feel disneys Pinocchio caters more towards children. A kid wouldn’t be able to understand Gillermos and would probably be scared. I’d show it to a 12 year old because it has so many lessons and personally was a tear jerker for me. As many years as it took for Guillermo’s, It should be appreciated more and not watered down to just another stop motion. I love disney, and their live action Pinocchio was wonderful, that being said, they’re both catered to different audiences and that’s okay!
@@iwalker71 ty ill check it out❤
All of Guillermo del Toro's films will be absolute classics for years. A great combination of Gothic and Lovecraftian Horror, emotional investment,soul,good story and world building,and artistic visuals.
The lovecraftian always brings his hellboy to my mind first..
I agree with everything. Del Toro worked for 15 years in this, because he wanted to do what he wanted to do, the best way possible. So it was hard for him to get enough budget and it almost got scrapped until netflix appeared. So with all the budget he needed he made the piece of art not only he wanted to do, but the one pinocchio we didnt know we needed. So glad it could came to life, its really unique and succeeds in every aspect it want to succeed. Disney has enough budget to make literally anything they want, yet they seem just to want more, all those things you said about them trying so hard to make references the public can understand and such is basically fanservice. They want to sell, they dont put a heart in it because it seems like the people in charge just dont have one. Some people say that in marvel they cared lately more about quantity over quality. A lot of movies that have disney behind may have a lot of nice cgi (or maybe not, maybe in cgi they are starting to settle with less) or beautiful 3d worlds, but their stories are hella predictable. Repeating patterns, playing safe, or just doing the bare minimum because they know that if it has disney in it people will take it as a quality mark. Del Toro did what his heart told him, along with the professionals that took part in the journey of making Pinocchio, and its proof that, with enough budget and enough love for what you do, you can achieve wonderful things to share with the world.
It's kind of how the very exceptional movie, Everything Everywhere All At Once, showed MCU's Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness how to do multiverse right. 25 million USD budget as compared to MCU's 200 million USD budget
@@jefffiore7869 I still havent watched everything everywhere all at once, but im assuming that the budget was used by marvel more for the visuals than any other thing
@@youtubewontletme It had a lot of CGI shots too, not as many as MCU though. Their CGI team was 5 guys on Apple computers using Adobe After Effects and they did a great job too.
As a kid I never found anything funny about Disney cartoons, and I only liked about half of their animated movies. At the time, Disney did the R&D and technical innovation so others, such as Warner Bros, could make us laugh. These days, Disney isn’t even doing the R&D. And their business model is black-hearted villainy.
the stop motion is way more visually cohesive because you can tell that all of the characters and settings exist in the same physical space and can actually interact with each other, and then on top of that (like you said) there’s just such a level of intentionality to every movement and design choice. you can so easily tell that del toro’s pinocchio is a movie made with care
The fact that we almost didn't even get Guillermo's Pinocchio. Like I knew it was going to be good, I love his work, but I'm so amazed and grateful that Netflix gave it a chance
A kinda rare netflix win
Finally Netflix doing something right
Guillermo isn't just a filmmaker, he's an artist, and not just an artist, but an artist who truly sees the world around him.
"Life can bring suffering. Eternal life brings ETERNAL suffering."
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As an Italian I can say that Disney's version looks to me like a real cultural theft, while in Deltoro's movie there is also a giant act of love to my country and my culture: even if he modified the story from the original novel he captured it's spirit, where Disney's version (even in the old cartoon) didn't even try to do It. If you want ti see another very good adaptation of Pinocchio you should see 2019 version from the Italian director Matteo Garrone: is a very good movie pretty close to Collodi's (the author) original story.
Ohhh
I loved that version too
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Latin brother! 🍻 It's because we understand emotion and depth.
Yeah even though the del Toro version is (originally) in English they still have some characters speaking Italian in the background. In the Disney version, they have over-the-top fake Italian accents that would be considered racist if it was directed at any other culture. But of course Disney only cares about cultural representation if it’s currently relevant.
I would like to throw in that the little boy cast as Pinocchio in Del Toro’s version was amazing. The song when he comes to life was difficult to sing and I was already invested in him. Also as a mom, Gepetto questioning his choices as he remembers what having a toddler around is like. I loved it all.
I would also like to mention the voice directions in these two Pinocchio films, Guillermo De Toro version is being taken serious and chose the right actors for each character to show more life while the live action Disney version just got the big name actors and tell them to voice the characters with no tone or make an effort which it sucks
1000% everything in the Disney version was a calculated cynical decision.
@@Brittney_Reacts_ very, I heard one voice clip of the fox and it shows how much Disney cares less about the movie
del toro 😂😂😂😂
Slightly unrelated but casting Cate Blanchett as the monkey who makes only monkey noises is so funny to me. Incredible casting, no notes.
Gepettos and crickets voice in Guillermo's is mesmerizing
Soy mexicano y me siento orgulloso de tener un talento como Guillermo. De México para el mundo.
Un genio.
Yo soy de Argentina pero también me siento muy feliz por el éxito de Guillermo y todo su talento. Me da esperanzas de que tal vez en el futuro pueda tener un destino similar
Is sad that he almost doesn't include Mexican/ latinos people in his films .
He makes some of the best art. I wish there were more passionate people like him
@@claudem7991 Because he adapts or bases his stories from Europe, I dont mind, for example The Labyrinth of the Faun, my favorite Guillermo's del Toro is set in Spain. how boring it would be that he makes movies just to incorporate Mexican culture? or Latinos just because his Mexican, do not limit Guillermo with the American race issue going on, he is Mexican not American. Or you want him to start making crappy movies just to be woke??
Guillermo’s Pinocchio IS Pinocchio for me now. It’s THE adaption for me now.
It's the most similar version to the source material so yes
You got it exactly right about the "humor" in the Disney version and nobody talks about it with del Toro's. Not only did del Toro make an emotionally better movie, his version is also hilarious at parts. Disney tried to go for their, now typical, dumb reference humor. When I first saw the characters "heil" in del Toro's I laughed out loud. When Geppetto walks up to the sailor on the dock and you hear the tink of a mine in the water it was hilarious. And Tom Kinney as Mussolini was so funny. The reason all of those things were funny is because they were presented normally and frankly. Disney tries so hard to be "funny" that they forget what's actually humorous.
I also love how he used lots of old school animation humour (idk what to call it) instead of cringey punchlines that sound like they're supposed to be accompanied by a laugh track. for example when the cricket was trying to stop pinocchio from going to church and got smashed by the door. you rarely see that in animated movies nowadays anymore and it was so refreshing
The Del Toro version was STUNNING. He pulled talented people from other shows like Fantastic Mr. Fox and Over the Garden Wall. It was filled with passion and love, and so much creativity that the industry has been lacking lately.
Man, Deltoro's intro was so heart wrenching, u know what's gonna happen to Carlo, but you don't know how it's gonna go down, then they make u love the guy only to take him away, I was "oh no..." from Carlo's first frame...
Was feeling the UP ptsd creeping in... Dam Deltoro's gud!
Yeah the opening definitely got me
@@Towkeeyohdel Toro*
Few movies (or maybe none) made me cry a little at first, but this Pinocchio did it :'(
Especially when the planes began to be seen, I was like NOOOOOOOOOO
I remember I saw the Del toro's pinocchio movie with my sisters, and by the end of the movie, the three of use were bawling our eyes out crying. And I swear, I haven't cried that much for a movie in years. It made me feel emotions! Something that movies nowadays don't do.
It’s pretty simply a case of profit vs passion. If Guillermo’s movie was guaranteed to not make a single cent but it was still green lit to be made he would do it because he’s a passionate storyteller that simply loves the craft!
As a working artist I can tell you that for me the real dark side of Disney is their insanely well-funded contempt for the entire original concept of "Public Domain". That's why I'm very glad your channel popped up today. Your presentation is clear and perceptive and your snark-free love for the medium makes the whole thing totally persuasive. Beautifully said from start to finish! I'm now a subscriber.
I would love to see Guirrermo start remaking all the fairy tales as Walt Disney did because we need someone new to take the thrown. Disney has lost the spark that originally made the company great which is really sad. Even the Pauly Shore Pinnochio was better than the Disney version
I want Guillermo Del Toro beauty and the beast SO BAD
@@Sara-yz7pt We already got it, just watch the shape of water!
@@the_pumpking_ Wasn't Shape of Water more of a Little Mermaid take? I'd die for a Sleeping Beauty rendition though
It be cool to see stop motion Peter Pan
As someone who grew up with the book, I adored how del Toro incorporated so many elements of the original story, while giving them his own personal interpretation! The schoolbook, the Cat and the Fox, the black rabbits, the Land of Toys…
I find it good that you mentioned how to depict Pinocchio in a live-action movie, because there have already been many live-action adaptations that dealed in many different ways with this problem: most just have the actor of Pinocchio in some make-up and his iconic clothes; some, like the 1996 "the adventures of Pinocchio" or the 1967 "Turlis Abenteuer" used a real puppet; and then there's the 1972 miniseries by Luigi Comencini, which came up with this great workaround: since in the original tale Pinocchio starts off as a living piece of wood, we have him be that here too, and use a puppet for the beginning. then the Fairy enters the picture and turns him into a real boy (with a real child actor), on the condition that he behaves. so anytime he misbehaves, the puppet comes back. And at the end of the story, to show that Pinocchio is now permanently a real child, we see him alongside his old wooden body!
I legit cried twice watching Guillermo’s Pinocchio it was excellent
Yaaas
Only twice?
Cried like five fuckihg times, it was one of the best movies of this year.
Im a 39 year old man and not ashamed to admit that I cried when Spazzatura dies
Me too (in the start and the end of the movie)
Guillermo Del Toro DESERVED an OSCAR for "Pans Labyrinth"...One of the most unique stories and a tragic or happy endings you could ever experience...Depending on your view of the world or human mind...
This movies ending and message made me cry and I'm a 41 year old grown man as a father who loves his kid a lot. This movie has a lot of heart.
At 9:46, I want to point out that the last time Disney really cared about their movies was Who Framed Roger Rabbit. The animation director, Richard Williams only worked on the film to be able to create his passion piece “The Thief and The Cobbler”. Williams worked on the movie for 29 years, I believe. He started in 1964. Some animators at Disney worked on the film, and after a while, Disney, under the company MiraMax bought the rights to TTATC. They put a new director on it, while working on Aladdin. Disney stole essentially the whole plot and characters from TTATC, and put it on Aladdin. Princess Jasmine is based off of Princess Yum-Yum, Aladdin is based off of Tack the cobbler, even Jafar and his bird were stolen! The original villains name was ZigZag, he had a pet vulture and plotted to marry Yum-Yum for the throne. There’s a version of the genie, the witch, too. Even the Sultans are similar! The movie was never finished, and only released after the director was changed and Disney tried to have it released as soon as possible after Aladdin. They completely changed everything about the movie, and changed the name to Arabian Knight. On the DVD cover, they even put Princess Yum-Yum and Tack on a magic carpet to make it seem like a cheap knock-off of Aladdin. It makes me sad to see Disney only be a company for money, and not making any real story of themselves. Most, if not all of their original movies are not their original stories. They were stolen from folktales or myths, mainly from the Brothers Grimm. Disney never even truly gave credit, and calls their princesses “Disney Princesses” though they didn’t create them. The worst part about The Thief and The Cobbler is that Richard Williams died in 2019, so we’ll never truly see what he intended the movie to be like. There is a version called the Recobbled Cut here on youtube which is as close as it can be to the original story. It was made by Garrett Gilchrist. I’d like to mention originally the thief and Tack were supposed to be mute, too but Disney made them speak and added some horrible musical numbers. I wish that the majority of Disney’s most famous movies weren’t stolen, but I guess not all wishes are meant to be true.
Honestly i can agree Guillermo Del Toros Pinocchio is wayyy better like you said it needs flavor for the movie to work and it worked bc i cried at the end😭
Me too! The movie was so emotional for me!
I absolutely agree with you. I think Disney's live action version of Pinocchio is a sugar-coated, bubble wrapped, half-hearted first draft of the beautiful, emotionally deep, stunningly animated story that Guillermo del Toro gave us with the same characters. You can ACTUALLY SEE the tears in Geppetto's eyes when he is weeping for his lost sons. You FEEL his grief and his pain in those moments. I wept for him, I felt so bad. The animation was stunning. The songs were heartfelt and sweet. And I actually REALLY ENJOYED the fact that (unlike any other version of Pinocchio I have seen) this one actually lets us see Geppetto with his first son and how deep and strong that bond is...so when he is lost, we also feel that loss because we have become emotionally attached to the character. Its not just mumbled at us with no context for the emotion. I liked how they chose to do the ending. It almost feels like the two sons were entwined in a way. Geppetto had his beloved Carlo and we see the beautiful bond they share and how Carlo is helping his Papa create the Crucifix in the church and it is Carlo who finds the perfect pine cone to plant as a new tree, so that he can follow in his father's footsteps as a woodcarver. But then, when Carlo dies, Geppetto plants the pinecone on his son's grave and the tree grows, but Geppetto's grief causes him to stop building the Crucifix....but then, when Pinocchio comes to Geppetto, he comes from the tree that was made by Carlo's special pinecone. Pinocchio helps his papa to finish the Crucifix that he started with his first son.
Disney's Pinocchio is also everything wrong with parenting today where we do not talk about sadness, loss, failure and struggle and try to portray a rosey happy picture of life. This would simply break a person as they grow up.
There's just something about stop-motion, it's like there can't be a bad stop-motion movie
It takes lots of time, patience and money. It shows pure love and creativity in the work, which makes it beautiful!
Oh, you can definitely make a bad stop motion movie, but those who put in the effort to make one are less likely to make something bad
See, making bad stop motion just isn’t worth doing, and then the only people left to make stop motion are people who care about what they’re making and out the effort in to make it great
I honestly never bothered watching Disney's version to begin with. Like you said Brittney, Del Toro gave his film heart and soul. Every scene had a purpose, which drew towards deep messages at the conclusion. Meanwhile, Disney is all about two things these days: nostalgia and superheroes! Even if there is an original idea out there (IE Strange World), it's mostly pushed aside (underpromoted) and the money is made up by the next Marvel/re-make project! In that regard, I would love to see your analysis on the dominance of Marvel these days and why creativity became undervalued.
I honestly didn't even know Disney's remake existed until it appeared on streaming.
i tried watching the Disney version and couldn't make it past the scene here he skips school for the circus lol
Well, and we can't say the media helps much, the only thing they focus on in the movies is "There's an LGBT scene/character in it!" as if it were the highlight of this and leaving everything else out.
I went to see Buzz Lightyear in the cinema, I turned to see my side for literally a second and when I looked back at the movie the kiss scene that everyone and the media were talking had already passed
@@ivanelugo Yes, exactly! They shout about Lefou being gay in the remake of "Beauty and the Beast", they say the brother from "Jungle Cruise"is gay, they talk about the blink and you miss it lesbian kiss in "Rise of Skywalker". It's almost 2023, by now Disney needs to stop caring what overseas places will complain about and quit just giving us winks and nudges in the movies proper.
@@phousefilms well, what I was referring to is like the media, like the news and stuff, and people make too much of a scandal about it, with the strange world it's like the fifth "first Disney LGBT character" that the news talks about and is not talked about nothing else outside of the topic of inclusion, I mean, I feel that they force it a lot by announcing things like that rather than focusing on the content of the film, everything they talked about the kiss generated controversy and it was the most that was talked about about that film, and it was something for a second, for me Buzzlightyear seemed like a weak movie, mostly because of the characters like the pen guy, but if I say that I didn't like it now they'll tell me that I didn't like it because I'm "homophobic", because that It was the excuse they made to refer to those who did not like the film as if the film revolved around the kiss and LGBT content.
Also there's a very similar scene where Pinocchio lies to make his nose grow to get out of a situation. In the Disney movie this goes directly against the themes of the movie to be a good boy and it's very odd. But in Del Toro's Pinocchio, this follows the theming of the movie of not just subjecting to absolute obedience and accepting of authority's demands; Del Toro's Pinocchio encourages us to think for ourselves and do what's right
Guillermo Del Toro wanted to make a movie where the only character that doesn’t behave like a puppet, is the puppet. Where Disney wanted to make it relevant, Del Toro’s version brought a new perspective to the Pinocchio story and was inspiring.
Just saw Guillermo’s version last night and was hooked from the start. Want a masterclass in film making and storytelling. Disney needs to humble themselves and take note because Guillermo deserves awards for his work.
i never really cared about pinocchio’s story and i didn’t even remember it, well i just want to say that now, the Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio became my favorite movie
Disney's PInnochio is like if an AI Art Generator could make movies.
"If you animate the ordinary, you will achieve something extraordinary." Im going to be using this quote to live by
Del Toro’s Pinocchio has now won the Oscar for Best Animated Feature and it SO deserves it! 😊
I’ve said this to myself after seeing both: Guillermo Del Toro takes his story to places that Disney would never dare to go. You’ll never see Disney make anything new with drinking, guns, fascism or genuine loss anytime soon
I’d say they’ll find ways to “allude to it.” Without being upfront.
Yep, and they actually removed those drinking and smoking scenes in the remake of Pinochio. What a shame.
Great video! You got a new subscriber. As mexican, I feel very proud for Guillermo del Toro and the mexican artists who worked on "Pinocchio". I think there's no mistake to say that this movie was made with love, a wonderful story that should resist the trial of time and touch the hearts of the generations to come. On the other hand, Disney's version will be forgot soon, thrown to the cultural dump.
Disney is still good at animating stuff but the way they direct their films nowadays (especially the live action remakes) is nonsensical.
I think the problem is they focus on the wrong things.
@@Brittney_Reacts_ The fact that they keep on making live action remakes of their old movies which nobody asked for says a lot about the company not accepting criticism.
"Disney is still good at animating stuff " Um, STRANGE WORLD is in all the Godzillaplexes right now, and it's all the evidence you need to know Disney ISN'T still good at "animating stuff."
We should keep in mind Disney animators arent the ones in power, they just do the job. If they’re told to so a cheap money grab, they have to. I feel like the biggest issue with Disney is the CEO who is too money focussed in stead of putting love into their work
Disney has some of the best talent in the world but Pinnochio isn't done in studio. It's VFX and mainly outsourced to the cheapest studios possible. The VFX artist are also talented but they had no time as Disney wanted to release their film before Del Toro. Absolutely rushed job artist barely slept to meet the deadline and for what 😔
The difference is del Toro is an artist who puts passion into every movie he does. He keeps entire journals full of sketches, designs and notes dedicated to the film he’s working on. He is a master of his craft and this is just another fine example.
Disney, on the other hand, lost their magic.
*Literally.*
I gotta say, Guillermo made a good choice not giving Pinocchio or Sebastian human looking eyes.
I'm glad these two movies came out when they did. There needs to be more filmmakers out there like Mr. del Toro who can still do something original with something familiar to all of us, and make it great. And there needs to be more instances like this to show everyone (including those who work at Disney) that just because they slapped the famous mouse on a film, doesn't mean it's a masterpiece. Honestly, they're just mocking Walt's legacy at this point. He'd be rolling in his grave if he saw what his name has become.
Loved your video too and I look forward to more. You earned a sub from me!
To be fair, you can't compete with the genius that is Del Toro. He called Harvey Weinstein an idiot long before that was cool.
He is honest. That's his sourcery.
Sounds like a good man.
This is the difference between a project done with passion and a project done for dollar signs. Sure to a degree all films/shows/media exists to also make money, but passion can still guide a project that isn’t only looking at profit. Disney is fully capable of making great films or even great Pinocchio films, they just chose not to really bother with it because they are trying to rake in cash while doing the least amount of work and effort. Because quite frankly you can’t tell me that the same studio that did the Cinderella remake (which was actually very good) isn’t capable of mustering up a half way decent and watchable film of their classics. They’re fully capable. They just don’t wanna put in the effort like those direct to video sequels.
Quality will always triumph
I just knew that once we tapped out CGI, that everything would come back around to handmade beauties like this movie. Stop motion will always have a place
I thought I would watch GDT's Pinocchio again, soon. But every time I see any clip, I cry. And I'm not emotionally equipped to do that to myself. Maybe in a month.
Oh it will definite make you cry then!
Guillermo Pinocchio hit me badly I started crying in the first scene
Personally, despite the live-action remake's massive and soulless flaws, I'm really happy it exists.
Because not only did it make me love the original animated Disney's Pinocchio movie a thousand times more than I already did (aswell as prove that the animated classic is the best one to show to future kids as an introduction to Disney at its best), but it also made me love Del Toro's telling and spin on the story a whole lot more than I had hoped to ^^
@kimixachi94 Exactly. Thats what M.Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender did. It gave us a heap of cringe and frustration on how bad it got, but it made us appreciate the original show a whole lot more because of the night and day comparison in storytelling and quality
I rewatch the original Pinocchio on VHS, and never watched the remake , I feel like rewatching it as an adult their was alot of flaws , like the last time he went with honest John it was straight up kidnapping and everyone told him he disobeyed his father again , it was also campy - but the monstro design is still terrifying .
Disney: /tries to release live action Pinocchio this year to ensure that this property is still associated with Disney before anyone else
Also Disney: /it hurts itself in confusion
Yeah... thats... some positive way to say: "Yeah! The remake sucs, but whatever!"
I wish people at Disney would watch these kinds of videos because it would genuinely help them. It’s like you said at the end, they used to tule story telling and animation, it wasn’t that long ago people would still get excited when they announced a new project, lately though they’ve just been phoning it in and it’s sad
There was an Epic Rap Battle of History video in 2015 (Stan Lee vs Jim Henson vs Disney) and Disney describes what the company does as "cranking out magic and assembly line whimsy" and it was good then but it's sad how well it aged.
Wow! That’s a scathingly accurate description
What I also really like about the intro to Del Toro's Pinocchio, is that it's framed through Gepetto's grieved memories of his son. So of course Carlo seems impossibly obedient amd perfect
The irony is that the opening shot of this video is one of the better parts of the remake because there’s Keegan Michael Key in it.
And Del Toro still blows it out of the water.
I love how Del Toro’s movie has a lot of plot points that come from the Disney remake - Geppetto having a lost son, the whale not being a whale, escaping the not-whale by tapping your feet, Pinocchio not becoming human at the end and growing his nose to escape a tight spot - but given context and making sense.
Good point. Also it might be seen as ableist for him to become the "perfect" human rathet than appreciating what makes him unique 😉
I saw both. The Disney's Pinocchio was so difficult to watch. My daughter and I could not get over the fact that they added a CGI cat! Like, why? And then you have Guillermo del Toro, who, in my opinion, is one of the best directors of our generation. He puts his heart and soul in everything he touches, and you can see it. His version of Pinocchio was so beautiful and with so much story. He's so passionate about his work, but as you mentioned, Disney is an assembly line machine that just keep reproducing bad product trying to appeal to nostalgia.
Looking at Disney's Pinocchio my mind went straight to Labyrinth, the 80's movie with David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly, it's a well known phenomenon that when perceiving bad media the brain will try to protect itself by remembering good media XD That movie had CGI but mostly used physical puppets made by the Henson company and they are really life-like because people took care animating each part of the puppets, not just their bodies but also things like mouths and eyelids. The most used puppet is that movie is for the character Hoggle and it took FOUR people plus an actor inside the puppet to manipulate him cause he's so detailed.
Guillermo Del Toro's Pinnochio is a masterpiece. As far as I'm concerned, it's the best version of the story(including the 1940 Disney film, which was also brilliant). I rank this animated film right up there with "The Iron Giant" and "Coraline" for its art design, visuals and for the serious take on mature themes in a kids film.
Guillermo's stop motion Pinocchio has more life and soul than the Disney live action!
For me the worst part of the Disney remake is that it completely throws away the story of free will, redemption and humanity that the original animated one is about. The new one turns Pinocchio into a victim of circumstance who just goes along with things happening to him. He faces no consequences for his decisions and therefore doesn’t learn anything. That makes him less human. Him becoming human through his personal growth, actions and development of his conscience is supposed to be the point of the Pinocchio story. Not only is the movie cringeworthy to watch, but it doesn’t inspire new viewers with any moral lesson. In fact it might leave a negative impact on impressionable viewers.
Another thing is too is the comparison between monstro's of both movies, they are also both night and day. Del Toro cast the monster closer in resemblance to the Dogfish from the original book and yet it also reminds me of monstro from the Disney animation, a very large, mutated whale, but in the Disney plus version, they made monstro look just like a plain generic mutated kaiju rip off, just throwing the designs of a humpback whale, a blue whale, a barracuda, a Kraken, a great white shark, and a bony fish. Blended that all together, and say, "here you go, here's your generic make-believe", instead of trying to make it look like something that could exist. Just lacking in originality and laziness to capitalize on nostalgia while Del Toro actually makes a monster look like a creature that resembles a whale rather than some generic make-believe we repeatedly see. Just my further thoughts on the matter.
Husband when I begged him to watch Del Toro Pinocchio was like "holy cow, 2 hours?!" then we were both hugging and crying at the end. And throughout admiring the superb animation.
It's actually really interesting how many plot points the two adaptations share, but GdT's has enough more changes to make those points actually work to build a cohesive story with an actual point.
I didn’t want to like Del Toro’s (Netflix) version, but the whole family loved it, myself included. Del Toro’s was dark and dealt so well with loss and grief. There was so much emotion there, we laughed and almost cried 💖
You didn't want to like it?
I had such a different feeling watching this movie, I was taken in, I felt the emotions it wanted me to feel and it was truly beautiful. Whereas the Disney one had so many moments and choices that were just nonsensical. And don’t even get me started on the jokes. And I didn’t even hated it per se, but like you could almost feel the people who made it going like “yeah that makes no sense but who cares they’re gonna eat it up cuz we’re Disney” like the fact Pinocchio was already aware of what’s good and evil, missing the entire point of the character.
This version however felt more real and not just because of the stop motion. You got and understood everybody’s motive and reasoning, and their choices were coherent and based.
I just wish modern Disney cared about their IPs enough to treat them with respect and letting authors remake their movies instead of just using them as nostalgia cash grabs
Couldn’t have said it better myself
Another commentator mentioned that to him the clock scene was the most iconic scene of Pinocchio how each clock was so beautifully crafted and animated showing how much love went into the original film. There was actual heart and emotion. In the remake it was replaced by product placement which was a completely unintentional reflection of what has happened to Disney. What was once filled with heart and brought it's viewer magical and original joy has been replaced with dull and soulless cash grabs that can no longer write a beautiful original story. (Please don't Encanto as a contradiction to this statement)
I was lucky enough to see Deltoro’s Pinocchio early in a small theater. I’m so glad I got to pay actual money to see this movie. It deserves a wide release. Everyone should see it. I would gladly go see it in theaters again. The entire thing wasn’t afraid to use certain imagery and parallels to get across its point. It was beautiful, and it was a fresh interpretation of these beloved characters. And the part when Pinocchio first and Ghepetto first meet was simply 👌. This film made me laugh and cry. It was fantastic, and in my opinion a true classic that i genuinely think will hold up for generations. Bravo.
I also saw the Disney live action remake. It’s hands down the worst out of the live actions to come out, by far. There’s nothing of value. It wasn’t even good for a laugh, which my friends and I originally tuned it on for. Was this fair? Perhaps not at first, but considering the way the movie turned out it was justified we had such low expectations. But I at least expected it to be on the “good cringe” spectrum. What I got was ugly, boring and completely washed of all the charm the original Disney Pinocchio carried. In certain places, it wasn’t even fully rendered properly, there was literal glitching in the renders that point to the fact that Disney did not pay or give the special effects team they outsourced enough time. (A common reason why films like these turn out so cheap and ugly looking.)
Yes, even that horrible Pinocchio movie with Polly Shore was better than Disney’s. At least I laughed at it, at least it left me with some thing fun and positive-the memes. There’s no memes of the live-action Pinochio. It was brought up exactly three times this year, when the crappy Polly Shore version came up, when itself released, and now in comparisons to a much more competent and compelling movie, making it look even more pitiful.
It was so good. This winter we had three generations watching this movie and we all loved it. From 5-80 years of age we all love this movie. Guillermo del Toro needs to remake fairytales. There are so many stories all over the world.
You said it in the best way possible. The Disney remake is a movie without soul, and Del Toro's Pinocchio was made with love.
And effort!
I loved how much the del toro version reminded me of movies like Coraline and a nightmare before Christmas. Not just the stop motion aspect, but the aesthetic and the themes too
Guillermo Del Torro's Pinocchio was SO GOOD. Like, the stopmotuon was AWESOME, the script was awesome, and a script that some of us can relate to, and shows different sad scenarios that would've happened in WW2. I hope Guillermo Del Torro and his team know what an amazing and fantastic job they did, EVEN BEATING DISNEY!
I agree. Disney tried to change nothing or do anything new with the same stuff and actually made it less serious with taking lots of the adult stuff from it. Guillermo is a master at his craft and man the animation was amazing.
I LOVE Del Toro’s Pinocchio! I love the fact they made Geppetto a man versatile of many emotions (aside from joy), such as grief, fear, and despondency, and how his drive to creating Pinocchio from being broken about his lost son. The Disney Geppetto was seen as someone incapable of feeling nothing but love (aside from some sadness from his son) and it really didn’t have many dark plots to help drive the good. The only thing I liked really from the Disney live action version was Monstro’s design as a chimeric sea monster but that’s about it.
I agree 100% with everything you just said, the constant thrash disney makes and also the praise given to filmmakers who still go above and beyond to make a good story better. I am definitely subscribing. Thank you.
Walt Disney and his company have always been shy about this story. Carlo Collodi’s themes in Pinocchio have always been more serious than Disney wanted to acknowledge.
Walt Disney wanted to make wholesome family entertainment with every fairytale he certainly sugar-coated them! But his 1940 animated film of Pinocchio while certainly sugar-coated and a departure from the source material it's a masterpiece of animation and a real showcase of what hand-drawn animation can do! You know every filmmaker is going to approach these stories in their own way and Walt Disney had his own way!
Imo disney has always more or less been like this.. it's just a bit more extreme now, like even the original 1940 Pinocchio was so ripped from the source material to something more pop relevant
Watching Del Toros Pinocchio made me feel like a child, where you obsessively rewatch it over and over. I watched it like 5 or 6 times in one week. So good
I love how the Disney version has Pinocchio not really doing anything bad at the pleasure island. You know. the way he was supposed to? Be naughty so he would turn into a donkey as punishment and later learn his lesson and be a good boy? In stead in the Disney version he is basically kidnapped to pleasure island and he is just observing other boys do bad things. There is no arc. All the 'naughty' moments from the original have been removed because Pinocchio was never in the wrong. He didn't choose not to go to school. He was kicked out. He didn't choose to go to pleasure island. He was kidnapped and once there he didn't drink, didn't gamble, didn't participate in the vandalizing etc. Where. Is. The. ARC???
I 100% agree with you! Did you hear the news about Bob Chapek (the man behind a lot of Disney’s sh*t decisions) being fired and Bob Iger (the previous CEO) taking over again? I think this is a great start! Chapek was overall a very problematic CEO.
I would say that Disney’s Pinocchio turned out the way it was not for a lack of trying. The director was Robert Zemeckis, co-writer/director of Back to the Future. The CGI team are the same people Disney and the rest of the industry lean on for big movies like the Avengers, and while they become more reliant on green screens and adding things in post, the workload grows for these studios without an increase in time to work on these things. They are not unionized, so the big companies take advantage of them. All of these people work within the restrictions set by (once again) the big companies just to churn out profits and increase their margins in the short term, while the industry suffers in the long term.
Guillermo made a Life through the movie, its has a heart and soul!
I was sobbing on the movie
Disney is losing its magic.
They just made it for the buck
For me it was how Disney made Pleasure island into something that didn't even have the same meaning as in the animated one. Guillermo Del toro's did the youth training camp with the paintball and confetti game and I think that perfectly encapsulates the something terrible and life threatening being turned into fun and ultimately seeing the consequences in a brutally unforgettable way. Like seriously Rootbeer, Disney?!
I didn't even watch the Disney version, but when I heard of that I had no hope for it.
"Sugar is bad kids! It'll turn you into donkeys!!!" As opposed to smoking, drinking and gambling being the thing they're supposed to stay away from. That waters the message down to nothing. 😭
It’s especially sad when you compare both of Disney’s Pinocchio’s. The original had so much passion and love put into it so everyone could enjoy it, and it’s still one of my favourite movies to this day! But the new one just feels like “Here’s another cash-grab until we pump out another 3d animated merchandise maker that is either gonna be decent or absolutely suck (*cough* Encanto *cough* Strange world) and with song that are going to make you want to jump out the window” What happened Disney?
Del Toro did such a good job at getting pinnochio to be nearly unbearable and bratty in the beginning, to actually growing to understand the weight of the world and how to navigate it. You slowly fell in love w him, and, as a parent, you relate to Japetto. His expectations, his feelings, especially if you’ve experienced childloss and then had children afterwards. He literally made me and my husband feel represented in this movie by showing how incredibly hard those feelings and frustrations hit, how hard you battle them to be the best person you can be for your children as well.
Honestly Del Toro’s makes me cry every time I watch it. It’s a work of art, and Del Toro (as per usual) obviously did his homework on the psychology behind a parent coping w childloss, and literally every other aspect of this movie.
RIP Disney. couldn't be bothered to watch Disney's because it's shitte and I finally had it since lion king. Del Toro's Pinocchio, on the other hand, I will watch it again. El dente!
I feel Guillermo’s versión had both darkness, light heartedness, and some real world aspects too. I loved it!!
Wow. What a great review. I think you nailed it, and yes.....Del Toro's Pinocchio was so much better.
I just love stop motion pictures! It is a love letter to craftsmanship and a lot of work to make these films.
Like Coraline,The Nightmare Before Christmas,Paranorman etc.
In this day and age where almost everything is digital it is refreshing to see this old fashion way of movie making.
This movie is also very dark it kinda reminden me of El laberinto del fauno which is even more dark.
Great stuff Brittney!
i like your narrative, you go girl! cant wait to see you getting more attention..
Thanks!!
Well in Disney's defense, del Toro is quite honestly at the top of his craft. I joke, Disney is a terribly run company and deserves every ounce of criticism.