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Sanguinius or The Great Angel was the Primarch of the Blood Angels Space Marine Chapter. One of the most beloved figures in the Imperium, Sanguinius was among both the most noble and mightiest Primarchs. His charisma, humility, and loyalty to the Emperor to the point of self-sacrifice has earned him a great deal of reverence, even in the 41st Millennium.
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if there was one primarch that Curze liked, it was sanguinius. He mocked the lion and Guilliman but shut up when Sanguinius spoke. dude was actually semi-polite to him.
Everybody liked him.
He was nice like Vulkan, without being too soft.
A scholar like Magnus without being arrogent.
Good looking like Fulgrim without being a dick.
Powerful and savage like Russ, but without being a judgmental, hypocritical asshat.
Probably cus besides Big E he was the only one who could see the future, so he was the only one who could understand why Curze was in such internal pain 24/7.
@@jackmesrel4933 he thought Sanguinius is perfect by every definition of the word. He is Curze's ideal self. Sanguinius in his perspective didn't feel worthy of Curze's attention because in his mind he's extremely flawed with his mutations, precognition, and with him killing his sons afflicted with the Red Thirst. Classic case of imposter syndrome.
@@boartank This honestly tells very two tragic tales. If Curze was able to actually form a bond with Sanguinis he probably would came for the better. And if Sanguinis actually listened honestly, and with out shame. He could of prevented Curzes insanity....maybe 🤔.
@@coreycoleman7973 The big difference is that Sanguinius saw the future as changeable, but Curze saw it as inevitable. The contrast in character became more that as a result, Sanguinus represented hope, but Curze represented despair.
I cannot believe Bricky missed Sanguinius’ most iconic quote when he ripped Kabandha’s wing “Only angels may fly!”.
I'm buying this book immediately
@@imtired9395 oh, well that quote was from Sang and Kabandha’s first fight on Signus. During their second fight on Terra, Sang downright just massacres Kabandha.
That's Sanguinius for you
@@PIJIM0N what book has all of his heroic shit on Terra and which has the first part where he fights chaos on the daemon words
@@imtired9395 The first part is Fear to Tread. Sanguinius beats up a whole bunch of Titans in Titandeath and Saturnine, and the big show for him is going to be the Siege of Terra book "Echoes of Eternity" which hasn't come out yet.
44:00 Now I’m imagining Sanguinius pointing the Spear of Telesto at the other primarchs and saying “everyone shut the fuck up, I have the talking stick.”
He points with Telesto and just crashes.
@@filenotfound6556 Now im just imagining a bunch of Guardians attacking Horus with Sanguinius. Not for the Imperium, but because that loot is gonna be dope as hell.
This comment relived my black rage
That spear always confused me it legit seems like a necron weapon with how disintegrates anything it fires it’s energy attack at. It is one of the more op primarch weapons tbough I’d put vulkens hammer slightly ahead because teleportation has so many uses mid-battle
He actually did that once. It was Guilliman's birthday party and literally no one knew how to throw a party he'd like, it was a disaster but he was super polite even though he was quietly unhappy, and they all started arguing about who fucked up G's birthday and Sanguinius unfolded his wings and shouted, picked up his spear and did exactly that thing and then proceeded to lay out how this was GUILLIMAN'S birthday and it was HIS feelings that mattered, and that the other Primarchs squabbling was super selfish, and Sanguinius asked Guilliman if there was anyway to salvage the party and Sanguinius got them ALL to play a game of Battlemace 40Million without cheating, and even without Perturabo being pissy, Konrad being bitchy, Fulgrim being rude and Angron didn't even ragequit when Guilliman steamrolled him with his superior tactics and Guilliman had the best birthday ever.
Because Sanguinius took charge and got everyone to play nice for ONE GODDAMNED DAY.
The end.
Describing Sanguinius as "That one common friend in a friend group everyone likes but who has his own inner demons like everyone else yet still keeps on trucking regardless" is probably the most succinct description I've heard of the hawd dude
Oh you mean the one with the emo brother that thinks everything is gonna end in nihilistic death and horror?
Always pour one out for Sanguinius!
TTS - "NOBODY TALK ABOUT MY FABULOUS HAWK BOY"
The emperor has spoken.
Indeed!
The plot to turn Blood Angels to Khorne was not done by Horus but Erebus. Horus initially wanted Sanguinius to join him, and when he discovered what Erebus was trying to do he boycotted the entire thing, which is why the plan failed. He then beat the crap out of Erebus, which is always cool
Horus didn't want Sanguinius to turn, he wanted him to be killed. He wanted the legion, but not the primarch, because he felt like Sanguinius would be a rival
Source: I just read Fear to Tread recently
@@khorneight yup. Khorne wanted sangy. Horus wanted the blood angels
Wasn’t it also Mortarion that wanted the blood angels and their primarch massacred because he hates how much of a psyker Sanginious is but Horus went with the “let them get worked up fighting demons” plan?
@@vinnythewebsurfer iirc sangys visions weren't known to the majority of his brothers
This week on 40k's Daddy Issues: Emperor's true favorite son.
Idk, he actually goes to talk to Vulkan.
Horus: dad loved you more!
Sanguinius: no he didn't.
Horus: yes he did! He called you HIS special little DOVE DUMPLING!!!!
*Constantine Valdor chuckles smuggly*
Corvus Corax seeing the Emperor as he was and then becoming a secret favourite is the best
Bricky's point about "would you ever actually want to meet an angel?" Is pretty accurate after all, the thing angels are most known for saying is "Be Not Afraid"
What a lovely angel! I bet him and his most trusted brother, Horus, would never fight each other. 😊😊
........ bruh
HORRUUUUUSSS
I am sad now
HorSUS.
FUCKING HOOOORRRRUUUUSSSSSSS!?!
Remembering that even Demon Angron got shocked when he looked at Sanguinius in full rage mode. Where the World eaters have a fabricated rage, The Angel and his sons are trully and purely wrathful.
That's a great way of putting it; rage being forced onto you by the nails agitating your brain and pure unfiltered, undiluted rage from the depths of your soul are completely different things.
@@NateVHVTI agree wholeheartedly. The nails cause a sort of unfocused anger that makes them violent so when they fight they zone out and don’t feel it for a while. Sanguinius and his son’s are pure righteous wrath incarnate that is focused and handled with as much intent that can be had in a blinding rage 😅
It's not mentioned but I'm pretty sure (if I remember right), the people of Baal were the only ones besides the Mechanicum to be allowed to "worship" something. They loved Sanguinius so much, he pleaded with Big E to spare them, and the Emperor just....did.
There's also an official holiday celebrated every year throughout the entire Empirium called the Sanguinala in remembrance and honor of Sanguinius
It was covered in the recent siege of terra book (which ADB basically turned into the Sanguinius book) Sanguinius says to the Emperor that he will only join if the people of Baal are unaffected. The Emperor has a little joust of words with Sanguinius, but Sanguinius brings it down to the point. And the Emperor accepts.
@@Bugeye0704 oh ok cool, I thought it was mentioned somewhere. I'm trying to read all the crusade/heresy stuff in order so I've got a long way til then 😂
Pretty sure the people of Nocturne also have their own Imperium-sanctioned cult
Yea sanguinous is noted as being the only primarch to outright give the emporor an ultimatum ether the pepole of Baal are left alone and not forced to do anything or sang wouldn’t join the emperor. He made the emporor go so far as to publicaly swear an oath in front of everyone present , which legit gave the emperor pause before agreeing.
Chad.
I’m surprised bricky didn’t mention sanguinala
Sanguinious: noble, peerless warrior, deep rage kept in check, very blood themed.
Khorne: "oh, I gotta have some if that."
Fun fact about the Death Company Dreadnaught: It has magnetic harpoons to charge vehicles better.
Another fun fact of the Death Company Dreadnought: it's not the result of putting a devastatingly wounded Death Company marine inside a dread because nobody in the chapter would 1) be so cruel so as to extended the torment of a victim of the Black Rage, and 2) waste a dreadnought sarcophagus in doing that. Rather, it's what happens when a Blood Angel already entombed in a dreadnought falls to the Black Rage.
Also during the Heresy Blood Angels had a Contemptor Dreadnought with a fucking JUMP PACK.
@@sonicwingnut Im sorry. A WHAT?!
@@sonicwingnut must of been a big ass jump pack
@@link4585 Incaendius Class Dreadnought, you can get em from Forgeworld. No 40k rules for 'em, but in Horus Heresy you can use the jump pack once per game for either a 12" move, 3D6" charge or to give it deep strike.
This is one of TWO flying dreadnoughts in the Blood Angels' arsenal though! Because their Librarian Dreadnought can use Wings of Sanguinius to fly across the battlefield as well like a glorious hawk boi.
Interesting parallel DK almost touched on. Curze is from a world untouched by the light and Sanguinius is from a world bathed too much in the light.
So at the end of the fight when Sanguinus is tearing into Angron's butcher nails, Angron actually ended up begging for mercy from Sanguinus and was no longer clouded by rage. It was a moment only the two primarchs knew of and Sanguinus felt bad for his brother and ended it short after that. Sanguinius never spoke a word what happened. I personally believe Angron was begging for Sanguinus to kill him since he mind was made clear for the first time since being made a daemon and he wanted to die.
I agréé angron always wanted to die since the day the emperor found him fuck lorgar for Robbing angron of his death
Oh wow!!
And Angron's still begging for death 10,000 years later. Genuinely felt sadly happy for him when he finally got a moment's peace in Arks of Omens before "dying".
When sanguinius and the captured Konrad have a talk about seeing the future, Konrad asks him how he is so positive and Sanguinius replies because you chose the easy way. More or less telling Konrad that when he sees visions hes a bitch for not taking the harder way.
The literary contrast is super fascinating and I think highlights an interesting dichotomy in the nihilist philosophy. They are immaculate foils of each other, and I think it highlights a really interesting dichotomy in the nihilist philosophy. A lot of people who don’t read books think nihilism is about giving up and being sad because nothing matters (in 40k, because of their visions and the concept that fate is predestined), like Curze, when in reality it’s about taking charge and living the best way you can in the face of that knowledge, like Sanguinius. Sometimes 40k is well written.
@@itsflyde yeah thats honestly a perfect way of looking at it. Konrad Curze sae the Grim dark future and chose to do nothing about it, while Sanguinius tried to do something, even if he knew his own death.
Even Savatar called him out asking why didn’t he try to be different and use a another way to make his home world better
The angel knew he’d die and didn’t let it affect him went out as a warrior and Hero
@@itsflyde As I have understood it, Nihilism is mistakenly summed up as "Nothing I do will change my fate and nothing really matters, so why should I do anything good at all?"
In reality, it perhaps properly summed up as "Nothing I do will change my fate and nothing really matters, which is reason enough to do as much good as I can to MAKE it matter."
I swear to God if Bricky doesn't cover Sanguinius dive bombing a warlord titan in a 1v1 I'll be mad.
Edit: no black rage today
Wasnt it a Emperor Titan ?
Edit: sry that i missed the perfect opportunity to say actually...
@@Faceless_One yes he did also kill an Imperator titan with his Sanguinary Guards.
he was sooo confused about the black rage holy jesus
@@PIJIM0N
Wait WTF Those things are HUGE
@@swordonline5026 shit hurt. Entertainment over accuracy.
After being slain by Horus, a portion of Sanguinius' soul became trapped aboard the Vengeful Spirit. It constantly breaks loose and causes problems for the Black Legion, then gets crystallized. Abaddon constantly finds Sanguinius' crystallized soul on different parts of the Vengeful Spirit and shatters it.
A vengeful spirit trapped within "The Vengeful Spirit".
@@e.t.b1455 In the business we call this 'foreshadowing.'
"If you truly come from the place men once called hell, when you return there, tell them that it was *SANGUINIUS* that sent you back." So badass, I can't wait to read about the Blood Angels
Read Dante
@@verdantvagrant7353
Omg! Is Saguinius secretly Dante from "Inferno"?! (real)
@@verdantvagrant7353 is it any good?
I get reminded of the one Hellsing Abridged scene.
"When you get to Hell, tell them Penwood sent you. And then apologize on my behalf for the inconvenience."
“Some Idiot named big sandwich sent me here I guess”
The Black Rage is an afliction where you start to believe yourself to be sangunius at the moment of fighting Horus and you can't differentiate between allies and enemies which is why it's a problem.
It happened the first time by his death and it's the only time everyone recovered from it afterwards there is only one dude that did.
Oh and you become incredibly overpowered which is why they are so effective on the battlefield.
Yeah mephiston is the only one to recover from the black rage
@@matthewboan616 I think Lemartes kinda pseudo cured himself but he is constantly under the rage but is coherent enough to not go crazy when he's not in stasis
That was only the case in the old lore from 2nd edition - They tell you in the video - the Black Rage was actually first artificially induced on Signus Prime and has always been a dormant part of the Blood Angels' genetic heritage. What's more if you read the Mephiston books, particularly Darkness In The Blood, Sanguinius was in fact host to a warp entity known as the twin angels of Baal - one angel of light, one of darkness. This entity explains that the affliction known as the Black Rage is an inherent part of the Angel of Darkness, and has existed since time immemorial.
@@matthewboan616 also Rafen recovered from it too.
greetings
Tablet of Lestralio is fancy think
Angels Sanguine use it to cure batlebrothers from black rage. and it work sometimes. and nobody is talking about it.
What a peaceful, kind angel, I hope nothing bad ever happens to him! I bet his sons are just as nice!
HORUS!!!
I mean, at least the Lamenters are :(
Ave Dominus Nox
@@Iceisnice1 I mean lamenters are indeed
@@Sam_StonerDrone5556 _Rips open the curtains, and lets a fuckload of light suddenly flood the room._ BEGONE, FOUL CREATURE OF THE DARK!
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: DK sees Horus everywhere and cries like a little baby man. Shy gives in to the red thirst and gains diabetes from some Warframe Fans and Bricky dreads the coming days of Femboy Sanguinius poster drop.
Nah, Twink sanguinius
Your comments are the cherry on top of every episode 👏
@@SatyreIkon I quite like seeing other people post their own versions of ''Ridiculous gear'' because it's quite funny
We NEED that poster or a Blood Daddy (Dilf) poster!❤
Genderbent Sanguinius exists. It's pretty dope.
Funny enough I hear Khorne wants Sanguinius than Angron. He admires the nobleness of Sanguinius, and the rage that can Sanguinius can bring.
Yea Angron was only really that bad because of the nails. Sanguinius had the rage naturally, but under control.
Funnily enough, I heard that Khorne wanted Sanguinius more than Angron. He admired the nobility of Sanguinius, and the rage he could bring.
Proofread and corrected.
Yup, always remember people, Khorne didn't choose Angron to be a Demon Prince, Lorgar made him do it through a ritual, while the other demon primarch actively fucked with their chosen ones and ascended them personally
@@jackmesrel4933 isn't slaanesh wanted the khan, and nurgle wanted perty and both failed to
@@Mohamed.Ashraf.0 Fulgrim was directly corrupted by Slaneesh (well, a blade with a demon of them in it ,but all demons are extensions to their god, so it counts) and he voluntarely gave himself to it at the time of his ancendance, and Mortarion felt the pull of Nurgle for the first time when he failed at killing his father and was dying to the poison in the air, and when Tifus got him under Nurgle's claws, he was rewarded so generously cus he got what Nurgle wanted, AKA Mortarion and the Death Guard, so if they were sloppy seconds they were at least prepared in advance. Only thing that Angron had to be remotely linked to Khorne was his sense of honor to his fellow gladiators (and that would be the positive aspects of the god, which they themselves don't engage much in it) and the Butchers Nails, which are technology of the dark age from when humans were completely scientific in their beliefs, so unless somehow a demon or follower of Khorne corrupted the designs to make the nails be linked to Khorne (which would be a valid theory, given what they do to their wearers), so yeah I believe fully that Angron wasn't chosen by Khorne but rather they accepted him cus why refuse a free meal of a primarch soul.
Sanginius certainly has more of an edge to him but really after Vulkan, he was probably the most down to earth and empathic of his brothers cause he knew his own imperfection as a mutant; the defective genes in his sons. It gave him more perspective. I think it’s even understood that the blood angel legions were made up of deformed/mutant terrans that threw themselves to the legion as a way to “fix” themselves to become perfect.
He’s very much a mirror to not just Horus or Kurse but also Fulgrim: these seemingly perfect and upstanding beings desperately trying to get better. Difference being that Fulgrim and by extension his legion hung onto their pride so badly and thus kept falling down and down into resorting to any means necessary to achieve perfection. Sanginius insisted on instilling humility and honor into his sons, keep things tempered and not get too full of themselves and give into their thrist. Bettering themselves in a more grounded way.
The Lamenters would bring him the most pride.
The modern BA are drawn from people that come from tainted worlds, not full on multiple arms mutants but still kinda messed up. Their indoctrination makes sure they remember where they came from to keep them humble.
"For those we cherish, we die in glory"
Sanguinis actually in his own ways appears in the current setting. Dante saw him as he was dying and talked with him, Mephiston too before he became the host of the Black Angel which further turned him into the best Psyker besides the Emperor and maybe Magnus, a statue of him appears on the Vengeful Spirit and no matter what the Black Legion do to it the statue reappears perfectly fine, and the Sanguinor obviously.
Sanguinius really gonna make everyone fusion dance to revive him.
@@ColdNorth0628 I mean he was originally made using two warp entities and a Primarch body sooo. Plus I don't think Mephiston, Dante, and the Sanguinor are down for that.
@@stripeybag6977 none are down for it but at the end of the day, I bet they would do it cause it is Sanguinius.
The embarassment of some ritual to revive their father would be all the worthwhile.
“Father might do worse… he might forgive you.” I get really big paradise lost vibes when Lucifer talks to the loyalist angels before the war in heaven. It always gets me a little
Sanguinius is the friend who is just as depressed as you, but still makes sure to see you smile everyday.
"We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood." - Hawkman
oi ain’t that from bloodborne
BloodBorne references make me smile like I have eyes on the inside
"Fear the old blood." - Albert Einstein
"We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Are eyes are yet to open. Fear the old blood" - Master Willum
OOoooh! Majestic, a shitter is a shitter, even in a meme.
Sanguinius (after fighting countless hours at the Eternity Gate, after fighting a giant khrone daemon, after fighting Angron, after fighting through a ship full of daemons and marines)...vs Horus (who just sat on his ass eatting cheetos while he watched the battle).
It was not a fair fight.
With Horus jacked up on Chaos God steroids.
@@NateVHVTnow it's a fair fight.
Just to give a little clarity to Red Thirst v Black Rage (because it is a bit confusing). The Red Thirst is a curse you inherit the moment you become a blood angle that is basically the classic vampiric thirst for blood, it also makes BA marines more aggressive and in combat can cause marines to become noncompliant or go off mission if they get lost to it and just seek out people to kill randomly. The Black Rage is a curse they inherited after Sanguinius died. It is the ultimate fate of every BA and will eventually consume each of them, basically they genuinely think they are Sanguinius on the Vengeful Spirit fighting Horus regardless of if they are facing and Ork, Chaos Marine, or hab block full of terrified civilians they go totally berserk. No marine who falls to the Black Rage ever comes out, only one marine has ever managed it and that's Mephiston and he's got more plot armor than the Emperor.
There's also Lemartes..but idk if he counts since he's still fallen to the rage..but throught sheer willpower still has control.
Thanks for making this comment. Good job! Red thirst = go crazy for blood. Black rage = go crazy for Horus! When I first started collecting blood angels I was so confused 😂
greetings
Tablet of Lestralio is fancy think
Angels Sanguine use it to cure batlebrothers from black rage. and it work sometimes. and nobody is talking about it.
Mephiston recovered didn't he? I tried blood angels. But traded them for Nids.
It is also possible that the black Rage is actually Sanguinius' own rage that he succumbed to during the heresy when fighting Horus, dying in such a state causing the psychic backlash to infect his whole Legion with it
"When the armor of your faith is buckled and torn, see in your mind that magnificent hero. Think upon his deeds and be humble, for his like will never walk the galaxy again."
Pretty much sums up how devastating his loss is to be spoken of like that.
I think why Curze was hopeful when looking at Sanguinius is because if Curze was killed, then he would realize nothing was set and that there's always a hope. Tragically, at least in Curze's eyes, he was spared to suffer the fate he had lived with all his life. I think Curze wanted Sanguinius to judge him, and felt only the angel and the Emperor could do so. Those two who, in Curze's eyes, are beyond the darkness he knows so well.
Also, Sanguinius is best boy flaws and all. Genuinely cared for others, did everything to protect them and his father's dream, and selfless to the end.
I feel like Sanguinius is best boy largely BECAUSE of his flaws. Guy was constantly fighting his own nature all his life.
This is why the Lamenters are his true sons. They see the darkness and reject it. No Lamenter has ever fallen to the black rage!
@@Nempo13 Actually....It came back
the tragedy of Angron, not only did Khorne take away his mortality but in the end he is just a replacement for Sanguinius
BRICKY PLEASE talk about how kabanda the blood thirster fought off tyranids on baal’s moon in a “if anyone is gonna massacre the blood angels it will ONLY be me”
"If you are coming from the place that man once called hell, when you return tell your kin that it was Sanguinius who threw you back"
Sanguinius Primarck of the Blood Angels before slaying the Bloodthirster Ka'banta
Sanguinius meeting the Emperor has been changed now (Echoes of eternity spoilers...)
Sangy was not enamoured by the Big E at all. He calmly flew and landed near the Big E, and the Big E observed him. He was not a fan of Sangy's wings, but accepted it. Sangy kind of already figured out how much of an ass the Big E is, and the bloodshed that he would cause in the name of the Great Crusade. The Big E sold him the pitch, and the first question Sangy asked him is "What if I refuse?". The Big E replied "I know you won't". Sangy then made a deal with the Emperor to let the people of Baal continue worshiping him as a god (the Big E probably would have killed them, as he reluctantly agreed), and then Sangy joins the great crusade.
Wow. That's extremely disappointing. Why all the emporer hate? Kinda sad they are going back to change things to make the emporer less likable.
@@aidengrey8876 Probably because the loyalist Primarchs who remain loyal while still having their frustrations with the Emperor are also the ones who are best at seeing the bigger picture, where they see all the suffering and insanity that goes down under the Emperors reign pre and post Heresy and find that clashes a lot with their care for Humans as people, while still acknowledging that the only real alternatives are far, far worse.
@@aidengrey8876 From what I've been able to see, it is largely that a lot of the current crop of GW writers have heavy Chaos leanings. Some of the best writers like ADB can write Chaos fantastically but have gone on record that they despise the Imperium and Emperor and when given the chance to write them write them as bumbling pig headed idiots. If you pay attention to a lot of the phrases and terms used by modern 40k writers they frequently use Chaos terminology. In short the trend of Emperor hate is because Chaos is currently writing 40k.
@@DragonfameDracas well that was an informed and completely logical answer. Thank you. And how depressing. One of the most essential parts of the lore, in my eyes at least, is despised by most of the story tellers. If this is true at least we know how the end times look.
I like that he abused E’s wording so that what he said had to become true by agreeing to his demand
I love that shit so much
As a full blown Blood Angels fan, my hype isn't aimed at the BA episode being great, or covering all the lore in a comprehensive yet entertaining way, or sucking up to daddy Sanguinius. It's aimed at Bricky failing, DK making a fool of himself and Shy suffering through it all. Kind of like your regular AdRic episode except, y'know, for the glory of the Great Angel, by His blood we are made and all that.
Think you got exactly what you wanted then.
"Daddy Sanguinius"😏...You read my mind!
@@refurbishedtechpriest9076 The key to not being disappointed is keeping your expectations as low as you can.
In MOST cases you can only fall to the Black Rage once (Mephiston is a badass, and Lemartes is a chad), and it was a psychic scar from Horus killing Sanguinius. Death Company Dreadnaughts were Dreadnaughts before they fell. Any Death Company members who survive their first battle as Death Company (bar Lemartes and I think Tycho) are then executed by Astaroth (who is fuckin cool in and of himself)
Here's a bit extra for you!
Like with Magnus, ol Hawkboy's legion was suffering before they met him; his legion (know prior as the revenants) were something savage already. Seeing as Sanguinius was able to trun his homeworld of savage mutants into a society, he had some experience and went to work soothing their agression
he found encouraging them into things such as the arts was invaluable to this, and in the modern setting it's still used. If I recall one of the sucessor chapters flat out abolished their death company because it worked so well for them
Not just the legion was having problems, they're methods of war Pre-Sanguinious were so bloody and macabre that there were actual thoughts that that the Revanants should be the third legion to be completely eradicated, just as the 2nd and 11th were.
Bob Sanguinius Ross?
The successor chapter that abolished its death company is now known for the fact 90% of it is a death company because the chaplains took over and banned all art and similar pass times, causing the black rage to absolutely skyrocket.
“On that day, the day we met our angel and Primarch, we all cried”
Useful information!
Being a guardsmen fighting alongside blood angels is great and all until they start looking at you like a juicebox and calling you horus
Why I play Blood Angels:
"It is not the descent toward the shadow nor the rise toward the light that makes us superior. It is the endless struggle between the two that greatness of character lies. We are tested, and we do not break."
- Sanguinius "Fear to Tread"
By the emperor that sounds badass😂
Bricky: I tell ya it dun live up to the hype
Also Bricky: *gets hyped while telling Sanguinius' feats
Firstly I wanted to thank the Ad Ric team for this episode, they are the ones who got me into 40k and after watching almost every episode it truly has been a treat to get so much information and entertainment surrounding the 40k universe.
I am writing this not in anger or in spite that they did not mention it in the episode but just thought I would share some things I have learned about Sanguinius who has been my favourite primarch since I got into 40k. Just some extra information so that way people who don't know him that well might get some more enjoyment out of his story.
I will admit my interest into 40k is pretty new and I apologize greatly for if what I say is incorrect and I would love to be corrected in replies, I love learning about my bloody boys.
The first and most important part of his character that sticks out to me is when he is first introduced to his army, the IXth legion. So I have to do some retconning from the episode first, the IXth legion VERY MUCH so existed before Sanguinius, they were given his gene-seed even before he was found (as were all legions to my knowledge). The IXth legion was known for being extremely brutal, looked down upon by many of the other legions because they were absolute monsters in their savagery. When Sanguinius met his sons for the first time he knelt before them, explaining how he understands that him taking the role of leader of the legion is more or less something that he will have to earn from them (I'm paraphrasing but I believe I got the sentiment correct). It was through this compassion and genuine care for his legion that he started to teach them to control themselves to not give into the red-thirst. Sanguinius took it upon himself to personally kill any member of his legion who fell to the red-thirst (I will admit my ignorance it may be the black-rage but if I'm remembering correctly I believe it was the red-thirst) even though it pained him incredibly to do so, he needed to keep the curse the "flaw" of his chapter a secret out of fear if people knew it would hurt his legion (I believe he had fears of turning out like the 2nd and 11th chapter). He took a legion that was shunned by other legions and transformed them into one of the most respected legions in the entirety of the Imperium of Man. I absolutely love that part of his character that even though he's a fucking bad ass, he is willing to be humble, not weak (he is far from being anywhere close to weak) but willing to understand the human aspect of his sons.
Another story I really enjoy is the first time his sons ever saw Sanguinius express the part of him with the black rage. Now I'm still decently knew so I cannot remember the specific names but it was during the Great Crusades where Sanguinius was sent to capture a specifically stubborn planet or something along the likes of that, and instead of going purely by force he offered peace he offered a treaty of sorts, basically "Submit and we're good, basically just follow the imperial truth and we're good there doesn't need to be any fighting" to which the planet agreed. The planet sent up a ship that was carrying members to negotiate peace to Sanguinius's ship, but when the doors opened it turned out it was a lie, and the planet had set a ship full of warriors who FUCKED up some of Sanguinius's men. Yeah... That sent Sanguinius into not a blind rage but the type of angry where you're so pissed you're almost clam again, and he just absolutely obliterated the entirety of the planet even past the point where the planet was for real begging for peace, Sanguinius saw their act of betrayal as them signing their Deathwish and he would not revoke it. He slaughtered everything without mercy.
The last story I will mention because lord knows this is long enough as is, is in relation to when the Emperor arrived. Sanguinius had foresight into big E's arrival but also to the Imperial truth he already knew what big E would ask of him and his people and he (I believe) had knowledge of what big E did to planets who had dogmatic beliefs. So when Sanguinius kneeled before the Emperor he did so both in recognition and respect for his father but also (and what I find much more interesting) in protection of his people that had started worshiping him as a god. He pleaded for the safety of his people and shockingly big E agreed, the reason why he agreed I'm not sure, perhaps because he was so impressed with what Sanguinius had done, I don't know. So in my interpretation of the tear that Sanguinius shed upon meeting the Emperor was perhaps nots in awe but out of fear for his people.
Okay this had gone on for way too long, if you couldn't tell I quite like Sanguinius (best boy) and the blood angels, I would absolutely love to hear about more stories/ correct me if I got anything wrong. If you want to learn more about a member of the blood angles in particular "The Amber King" channel is fucking great and his episode on Mephiston was really what cemented my love for the Blood Angels. Have a great day everyone and if you read all of this holy shit I am so sorry.
Seeing as how the Black Rage was something born from the psychic scar Sanguinius death left in his legion, the BA that he mercy killed during the crusade were definetly victims of the Red Thirst, but besides that interesting point about his tear while kneeling in front of Big E, makes it more complex than just "best boy feeling joy in front of dad". Also didn't know about Sanguinius going ballistic cus a planet stabbed him in the back, then again space marines always share some traits with their primarcs, so the BA being savages sure came from somewhere alright, tho this just speaks volumes of best boy here, cus if he always had this much brutality on him but always tried to go for the more humane route, well this is just another line on the list of reasons to like him now, isn't it XD
I dare say that the flaws sanguinis unkowingly has is what makes a great character, they could have gone ahead and give no personality because he was going to doe, but instead they decided to create a really complex character full of good things and bad things
Red thirst: original genetic flaw. "Blood for the Blood Angel!"
Black rage: caused by the death of Sanguinius. "I am Sanguinius... why are you look like Horus? Fucking traitors!"
simple.
Yeah!
"You have a lot of water and by water I mean blood... GIVE ME YOUR BLOOD. - Zachary Hazard - Blood angels Techmarine. (Unknown date M41)
don't do hype kids
Here's a question. Which legions do you think Zach and Mike would be in? Zach=Iron Hand or Iron Warriors?
Curze had the same foresight as Sanguinius. He could see the good and bad visions, you see this in a vision he had on Nostromo when he caught a thief and had a vision of the thief helping him and turning into a good person and helping the Night Haunter make Nostromo become a lawful planet with an overall good populace or a dark fate where he tries to kill the Night Haunter, he always chose to believe the worst fate because he could never see any good in humanity while Sanguinius had faith in the good inside humanity... Ave Dominus Nox
I know they mentioned they aren't gonna go over EVERYTHING Sanguinius, but I hope they go over Sanguinius vs Angron, Sanguinius RIPPED THE NAILS OUTTA HIS DAEMON BRAIN. Fuckin awesome to read
Sanguinius made Angron beg and cry.
What what?! What happened?
@@nkumpe4953 angron chases sanguinius around, immediately after Sanguinius kills Ka'bhanda. They duel for a bit, then sanguinius flies away to try and recover. Angron chases, goads him and heals his wounds while noticing sanguinius is slightly getting slower. Sanguinius (I don't remember if it's his spear telesto or Angron throwing a spear) let's angron throw a spear at him and mid air does this flip where he catches and redirects the spear twice as fast back at angron. Which impales into angron, giving sanguinius an opening to stab him with his sword. Angron then stabs sanguinius and sanguinius gets close enough to rip out the nails.
I fucking laughed when they made the comparisons to all those memes of someone that gets “snap’d to the void” and cut off mid scream. I will never think of Angron in any other way for a good while.
@@matiasyannuzzi9655 bro was so gaslit he thought the nails were part of him lol
So if I remember right sadly in the new lore it was actually the emperor's wife that yeeted the primarks. Erebus even had to explain to her no it's your fault they all turned out like this because she claimed she did nothing wrong. The horus hersey is the story of a man trying to reunite his family despite the trauma they got after his wife has a hissy fit because she didn't like his parenting style and abandoned them on strangers door steps.
Thanks, I hate that. How do they explain that how the Primarchs are made of warp stuff? Is that retconned as well?
@@micahsheldon5557 I’m pretty sure that’s still canon. The warp stuff is just what’s in their bodies, and the bodies themselves are just straight up manufactured.
I categorically reject that retardedness and I don't know anyone who doesn't.
Such a stupid change to the lore. An overly emotional woman had a tantrum. That’s what they decided to go with.
I believe that Erda was actually manipulated into breaching the emperors psychic defenses leading to the scattering of the primarchs. So it's really just more context to events.
Finally! After all those years, witness: HAWK BOYYYYYY!
Over rated
Hawks!
Here's a question: do Curze and Sanguinius see bad and good futures, respectively, because that's an innate facet of their powers? Or do they subconsciously seek out visions of possible futures that confirm their outlooks?
Sanguinius hardly grew up on a great world, but he was since childhood surrounded by people who were kind and caring. Ergo, he developed an optimism, that things could always get better if you tried to foster peace and understanding.
Konrad Curze grew up on Nostromo, a wretched hive of scum and villainy. And he grew up alone. He learned very quickly that the people around him were selfish, and would kill (or worse) to survive, or because it was fun. He developed a bleak and pessimistic attitude towards the world around him, fearing or expecting that anyone he encountered had ill intentions.
Is it any wonder, then, that Sanguinius saw positive futures, while Curze saw negative ones? They were tugging on threads of fate, of futures that could be, that confirmed their biases.
It would also explain why, after learning of Horus's betrayal, Sanguinius saw a bad future (that of his death) for the first time. It's not that it was really a good vision - even if he tried to convince himself it was for the best - but rather that it was when his optimistic viewpoint was shaken to the extent that he was open to seeing bad outcomes.
Black rage has no connection to the red thirst . Sometimes a space marine just goes crazy and thinks they are Sanguineous and the enemies are Horus and they feel the rage of Sanguineous
True. Currently it seems that the red thirst is genetic, were as the black rage is a psychic issue
There is the implication that one leads to the other, tho. As a Blood Angel, loosing yourself to the thirst can trigger the rage, which makes controlling the former a way to stave the latter
@@RGR0000 perhaps. But since violence seeems to be the main trigger for the black rage, that could be just a cause and effect. the two doesnt have to be interlinked for that to be case.
Good to know!
Fulgrim: I am perfect, and my legion must be perfect!
Sanguinius: *is literally perfect*
Not being a tryhard makes the difference.
@@matiasyannuzzi9655 Yep, the Khan said the same
Only... He's not.
Sanguinius: *impersonating Dorn* “No.”
That last portion hit WAY too close for home. From desperately hiding a secret from others for fear of social ostracization to the self doubt to the breakup thing, I didn't have a breakup, but the quiet "I'm fine" is all very real. Jeez, even being a people pleaser. I feel like I should paint up some blood angels now
You want an online hug fam?
It is ok to tell peopke you are not ok.
Finally, best boi gets the attention he always deserved.
Indeed!
"For God sake, Revelation. Sanguinius LITERALLY has A N G E L W I N G S!"
My favorite Primarch along with Vulkan. As they remember the value in compassion.
Also Bricky the Black Rage is quite different from the Red Thirst and I understand the confusion. The Black Rage is essentially the mental scar cause by the psychic backlash of Sanguinius death. So when it happens, it's like the Marine is trapped in this hallucination nightmare where they think they are Sanguinius fighting Horus who is what they see everyone as. So it's sort of they just go crazy Bezerk and just kill everyone around them.
And the Black Rage is worst because the Red Thirst is manageable because either ingesting blood or willpower but the Rage is inevitable and overpowering
Only one of them has ever fallen to the Black Rage and come back from it, their damn Chapter Master. There is a lot of hope in him becoming Sanguinius reborn from his men due to this.
@@Nempo13 true Dante did after dying kinda. Also Callistarius kinda overcame it and became Mephiston but who knows what happened when he was buried under Armageddon. And then Lemartes being in the Black Rage while still being coherent and non hostile and they keep him on ice just he case he loses control.
greetings
Tablet of Lestralio is fancy think
Angels Sanguine use it to cure batlebrothers from black rage. and it work sometimes. and nobody is talking about it.
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: The Blood angels fans are finally happy, Bricky becomes a cannibal, Dk goes blonde and Shy succumbs to the black rage after years with DK and Bricky
Nice summary!
Cool summary!
"Angels were not created for kindness" now that line would fit just right in Godbound
ever notice that all the berries in oops all berries are the colors of the chaos gods, captain crunch is a secret chaos worshiper I'm convinced
Signus will always make me cry, lost my boi Meros there :(
When you do the BA chapter please talk about what they were like before Sanguinius. They were called the Revenant Legion and wore gray ceramite, which they never cleaned the blood off of. They were so metal that during sieges, they would stand somewhere within sight, but out of effective range of the defenders, and just eat people. Whole. Just chomp away to demoralize the enemy.
Fling severed heads into the city you're sieging, sure. But imagine seeing a guy just eat one of your buddies one bite at a time, all while knowing there are several thousand beings just like him outside your walls.
Can we just notice how much better each thumbnail art gets?
frrrrr shy is a legend!
Shy is awesome!
Dante is the greatest chapter master of the blood angels, what do you guys think?
I agree. Heck, he’s so old, respected, and has done so much that Guilliman basically tells him “I will not have you kneel before me, instead we shall be collegues”.
I love the primarch, but Dante his most noble son, is the one I'm truly hyped about. The Dante book and Devastation of Baal are just so great.
Dante is the best Space Marine, imo. Way cooler than fuckin Calgar
Bricky is down on the BA’s because they are the opposite night lords. World is blasted by perpetual day and night back and forth. Sees visions of the future and ISNT overcome with evil from it. Has constant thirst for blood and murder and strives to overcome it. Loved art and culture with all forms of expression. Wants to be like night lords and won’t allow themselves to be such murderhobos
What I learnt from just the intro:
- DK is as good as keeping to his own lore as GW
- Bricky is as good at being subtle as GW
Clearly the best combination for a 40k podcast.
It's worth mentioning Ka'Bandha isn't just any Bloodthirster; at this time in the heirachy of Khorne's favoured daemons only Skarbrand was above him.
Meaning he was killing everything, all the time whilst in the warp.
You know, I have to say that I actually ended up appreciating Bricky's comparisons with Sanguinius and Konrad. The two parallels had a lot to share on how similar but still very different the two are.
True rage!
One thing to say about the black rage; once you succumb to it, it’s over. You see everything as Horus standing over Sanguinuis’ body and can’t snap out of it. Only two people have been known to survive it. One was Chief Librarian Mephiston and Lemartes who is still in the black rage but is somehow able to keep his sanity. Everyone else will get Astorath’s axe.
Oh my god, a Sanguinius episode showing up on my birthday?!
Literally the perfect gift, Y'all are the best :D
Can we all just our boy here a good round of applause for not only killing Kabandha after having defended the eternity gate against who knows how many demons and world eaters but also going into a one v one with Demon Angron (probably one of the ifs not the most dangerous person on Terra during the siege) and coming out on top right after the drag out brawl that was the Kabandha fight then going on to fight Horus (the most powerful Chaos Champion in all of 40k history) with most likely no rest and very little medical treatment and still putting up a good fight. You sir are a badass in the highest order.
19:06 flowers blooming from his tears? what's next warp doves for Celestine?
Sanguineous was even so liked. that the silent king even respected him that when Dante and Mepashton he was wearing his own version of his death mask and said to Dante that he would have made an agreeable emperor
The absolute last 40K video they make on this channel after they have talked about literally everything alse should be about Ferrus Manus. It's the only way for someone to remember him
Who?
Who?
Who?
Ok, but him jetissoning Konrad into space in a stasis coffin after that whole thing, holy crud...
You know who else is a huge fan of Sanguinius? Khorne. You know what else has wings and loves blood? Khorne, and BLOODTHIRSTERS. Sanguinius didn't just have a likeness to big E, but to Khorne' greatest demons too in a way. Chaos heaped gifts unto Sanguinius, and his glorious GODLIKE appearance was all the better for it. All that emotion, and instinctual drive to heap your faith on him was just perfect for what could be CHAOS' GREATEST CHAMPION. Sadly for them, they had to settle on their second choice, Horus, and he was well aware of it.
Flowers blooming from his CRYSTAL TEARS? Chaos. Pure chaos shenanigans.
One thing I will note at 34:45, you guys had the black rage and red thirst mixed up. The red thirst gets progressively worse, but can be staved off. However, if you fall to the black rage there is no coming back. Unless you are Mephiston, but he doesn’t count.
I cant wait for Bricky to talk about Corvus Corax. He is actually one of the few Primarchs i actually like. He was the only Primarch that saw Big E in his actual, non enhanced, form (even if only for a small time), and he could actually remember Big E from before they were all ported away by chaos.
How genuinely miffed DK got for Bricky disparaging his "spicy" intor 🤣
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the vision of the Emperor living that drove him. If I remember correctly Sanguinius saw every possible future and in every single one Horus kills him except one. The odds were infinity to 1 and that last microscopic shred of hope is what drove Sanguinius.
Have they ever tried sacrificing MORE than a 1000 pyskers to Big E?
I think one of the books mentions that when he first received his 1000 pysker sacrifice that their were 9 empty chambers for every pysker. Some people assume they have had to sacrifice more pyskers per day as the millenniums went on.
Our glorious Hawk-boi is here!!
So... A couple things to change it a bit.
Ka'bhanda does die at signus, Sanguineous does kill him but he's hurt really bad. Ka'bhanda comes back at the siege of Terra due to him begging Khorne.
Also, The blood angels always have a bit of rage in them to help fight. The Red Thirst is always there a bit but once they drink blood it subsides a bit. The black rage is a Khornate curse they got and once you fall into it you cannot come back. Unless you're name is Mephiston.
I hope they read this.
The Black Rage isn't a Khorne curse, I don't know where you got that from. It's the result of Sanguinius's psychic death scream that affected all of the members of the Blood Angels.
Bricky if you see this I really hope you either have read or will read the dante book in prep for the general blood angels episode. It gives a really good look at the chapter's recruitment process
And this is why Sanguinius is the best primarch our glorious hawk boy we salute you.
To The Angel brother. To LAMENTARS
Learning that Sanguineous is hurt because he can’t help everyone during the siege even as they keep asking more snd more if him really drives the point joke that he really is a very humble guy and it makes every sanguinala(Christmas) that much sadder. Also sang beat kabunda and kress on there first appearance finishing with the badass line only angels may fly as he ripped the blood thirsters wings off. In the second fight he beat the big blood obsessed demon worse also the entire time angron is stabbing sang Horus is screaming to him to hurry up bonking demon angron over the head with the fact that he’s fallen to a trap
Sanguinius, encapsulates the duality of the Emperor's love and his wrath. When he is happy he gives of a golden aura and everyone loves him, when he is angry he radiates terror. Also you left out the part about how crystal statues of him and the Blood Angels keep appearing on the flagship of the Black Legion.
If the theory is true that in order to make the Primark’s the emperor made a deal with chaos and part of that deal is that half of them would turn to chaos you know Khorne wanted Sanguinius, but the second the Emperor took one look at Angron he thought 'thank you for volunteering'
Horus wasn't scarred of Sanguinius the most, he felt threatened by Sanguinius and the fact that he thought Sanguinius could usurp him if he turned, Horus felt Sang could make a better warmaster as a loyalist, and as a traitor, he felt that, if Sanguinius turned, Sanguinius could be favoured by the gods, so he was scared in a sense, but Sanguinius wasn't the biggest threat to stopping and defeating Horus and ruining the Heresy.
The real fear and threat was the Lion, which is why, instead of trying to have the Lion set up for a betrayal, he just sent the Lion as far away as possible, and spread the 1st legion as thin as possible.
Despite this, the Lion and his Legion still easily did the most work for the loyalists side during the Heresy.
It should also be clarified that Horus did NOT want Horus to turn, Erebus and Lorgar wanted Sang to turn because they wanted Sanguinius as the Champion of Khorne, Horus wanted Sanguinius dead.
Also Kurze escaped the Lions flagship before being made lord protector.
Lion also did manage to avoid civillian casualties, he only destroyed the building they were in and I think evacuated the area while lion fought, and it was worth it.
The Lion wasn't angry about his sword being broken, Lion handed his sword to Guilliman, he accepted his exile while it lasted.
Also Kurze didn't escape, they let him out briefly for some stuff and then Sang does the stasis pod thing.
Also Guilliman has a moment where he reflects that Lion was ultimately a more loyal son than him.
This is FALSE. And really bad dumb take.
It was a variety of things that were set in play that led to failure of the Heresy, you can’t just say “The Lion” and his legion were the biggest threat, simply not true.
If ANY of the missing Primarch were there besides The Lion the heresy would’ve ended SOONER and they would’ve suffered less casualties.
@@shyysteebleedem you mean the lost? yea a whole extra Primarch and Legion would have changed things quite a lot and would have made for an imbalance of power whichever side they chose, theirs 2 missing primarchs for a reason, you get a slot to make an OC loyalist and traitor.
And yea, sure, there were other factors that lead to the Heresy's failiure, Lorgar got himself kicked out of the Heresy and the Traitors were trash and most of them had to be herded together because they'd just fuck off to do their own things.
The Alpha Legion fucked off until the Siege where they tried to turn Loyal again but were stopped because they only sent one dude to kickstart that turn and he got intercepted.
And yet, the 1st still did more than any other loyalist Legion to contribute to the traitors downfall, nothing about that is untrue.
Typhus had half of the Death Guard with him, that force was severely reduced by the 1st Legion.
The Night Lords were completely scattered and only a token force made it to Terra with an irrelevent commander at their head.
The Space Wolves were saved by the 1st Legion even though the Space Wolves mostly did fuck all, but Leman did get a good hit in on Horus.
If Pert hadnt appeared as a loyalist to recieve the Ordinatus engines from Lion, Lion would have all but doomed the heresy before it even started.
He cleared Ultramar of Traitors after becoming Lord Protector and after Capturing Kurze, convinced Sang and Guilliman to head to Terra.
So, the Space Wolves are saved, the Death Guard are severely Depleted, the Night Lords are all but taken out of the Picture, along with their Primarch, Sang and Guilliman are brought into the picture, and Lion throughout the heresy is securing vital assets, destroying traitors and after Secundus, destroyes all the key traitor strongholds, kickstarting the Scouring and making it easier to push the traitors back to the Eye of Terror, and after deciding to go back to Terra, picks Leman up along the way.
So, thanks to Lion, a Legion and Primarch were removed from the traitors side, another legion was severly reduced, an ally legion was saved, 2 Legions were brought into play to actually do something rather than sit at Maccragge for the rest of the Heresy and Rallies other loyalist Forces after a quick trip across the Galaxy.
Compare that to any other loyalist.
Dorn, sat at Terra, evacuated Mars and killed a Twin Primarch of a Legion that fucked off anyway and tried to turn loyal.
Ferrus, fucked off and died.
Vulkan, fucked off and died until he perma died, got revived, fucked off to Terra to hold the line and die a few more times in a fight with Magnus.
Khan, got cornered by Mortarion and a force of Emperors Children and thanks to some Alpha Legion fuckery, managed to slip off to Terra to wait for the Siege.
Sang, survived ball, sat on a Throne on Maccragge until Lion convinced him to go to the Siege, he fights Horus and dies, unless Horus had 2 chinks in his armour, its seems Leman may have left the opening for the Emperor after all.
Guilliman, survived until Lion showed up to actually move the plot forward, sat on Maccragge with Sang while Lion cleared his realm of any remaining traitor forces and was convinced to go clear the blockade around sol.
Corax, got fucked and sat on his homeworld for the rest of the Heresy.
Leman, gets saved by the 1st Legion, goes on a suicide mission after Dorn and Malcador beg him not too, has a chance to kill horus, hesitates, gets put in a Coma.
Frankly, about 2 of the loyalists do fuck and all, 2 of them just Die until one of them stops dying long enough to reach Terra and hold a choke point and the rest kinda just sit around and wait for things to happen until their either attacked, reach Terra and sit there or are pushed into doing something by the Lion.
How do you know that? Where is the source of this?
@@Dracobyte which statement are you referring too?
@@LCliffhanger the one with Sanguinius being a threat.
One fun fact while fighting on terra He would go around visiting the injured men and doing work while he wasn’t fighting one of the better primarchs he’s basically like the lion but better and more loved and a people person bonus fact to become a blood angel recruits must drink from a chalice and stay in a coffin for a 1 year and if they survive they are buff and become full fledged space marine
B'andatha's blood feud against the whole legion is so strong, that after the battle when the Nids came and wrecked everything was over, and they were doing clean-up 'n looking for survivors, they found a GIANT pile of 'nid skulls in the shape of Khorne's logo on one random corner of a planet, as a very obvious way of saying: "no one's allowed to kill you except me!"
The black rage isn't something most blood angels can come to from. While I believe the first mass onset was temporary, Mephiston is one of the only blood angels in chapter history to escape it, and it still changed him. Most angels affected with the rage get assigned to the death company and their armor painted black, led onto the battlefield by a chaplain when simple decimation of the enemy is required.
Thinking about that conversation between Sanguinius and Kurze, saying "he might forgive you" is probably the harshest punishment Sanguinius could have inflicted. He planted a seed of hope in Kurze's mind (against his will) and ripped that hope away in the same breath.
In the new Mortarion book, he is put on trial for his recent compliance war and what he did and Mortarion thinks Sanguinis is pompous. Kinda like how Fulgrim actually is, he sees Sanguinis as this image of perfection that he looks down at everyone else from a "oh so perfect" light.
I have a fan theory that Khan and Fulgrim weren't the only Primarchs that ended up on each others planets.
I'm pretty certain Sanguinius and Angron were meant to go to each others worlds. An Angel less likely to be mistreated on a non deathworld like Angron was, but Angrons special ability was to absorb others pain which would be really useful on a radiation stricken world for the populace.
Scam
Bricky: So, his home world is Baal Secundus"
Me: "Know by the Tyranids as 'Drive-through planet"
42:18 "Why, brother? Why did you turn traitor?" "lol" said the Night Haunter. "lmao"
That's basically the tone of that conversation.
Korne actually wanted the black rage blood angels but couldn’t so he got the sloppy seconds aka the world eaters which is really funny
22:06 shame on you, Bricky!
The Curze Primarch novel specifically shows Konrad lamenting his life to the meat statue Emperor and telling it that he loved all of his brothers - except Corvus Corax.
Even Konrad Curze couldn’t help but love Hawk Boy.
Why Corvus Corax?
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 Jealousy.
Mostly it was about being bitter than Corax got better stealth powers.
It's about time they go over the best of the primarchs and his legion.
Dk: I mean it’s a bloodthirster but that’s insane
Ka’banda: boi I’m THE bloodthirster