Caleb, love your channel! Honestly, I do think Coach is still darn good. I have bought them for years, moved onto higher priced luxury and still purchase Coach bags. Occasionally with all brands, I have walked into a boutique wanting to see a specific bag, was not very impressed and eventually did buy the bag. Sometimes I wonder if our expectations could be high?
I saw an article from High Snobriety which touted the larger Caryall sizes as an affordable Birkin-like bag. Like you, I like a capacious bag, which is what interested me. The larger ones are attractive, but I appreciate your opinions about the quality. I want a bag that will last a long time and not lose its shape from daily use.
Hi , I so agree agree with your comment on declining quality. Long long time fan here, and I personally stopped buying Coach because of the cheap leather used. Its thin, thin !! Secondly I was upset to learn they used fabric designed as suede on interior in some of their products (why not allow suede of the material they use-oh that right better to hide their cheap leather) and today you look at the suede interior and it’s painted 😮 I get drapey effect look, love it, however Coach has I feel resigned the brand for cheap profit over long term quality. Similar to what you see in clothes-polyester, nylon usage over cotton and wool. Back to Coach subject, I discovered Mulberry -thick leather, suede interiors, and great design, yeah you pay , you also receive quality.
Coach is never going to die. Coach is mutable and is seen on top models, for example, Gigi Hadid wears the "Brooklyn" handbag. It is a quality leather handbag. Coach styles have evolved and have kept current with the younger generations of people. What I like most about Coach is the price. I can't see paying $4,000.00 or 5,000.00 for a handbag I wear to the supermarket or the library, etc.
Gen X’er here. I have about 20 Coach bags from 80-90’s. There is nothing that beats them. I was always hoping as their Gen X clients aged they would bring back a (now) luxury line that is exactly those (formerly) made in USA old time thick leather bags. As fashion cycles swing and quiet luxury came out I was reallllly hoping they would do it again because I think there are a subset of us who would pay super top Coach dollar for their decades ago quality now. My vintage pieces are absolutely killing it. Blacks, British tans, forest greens, reds, they all slay nowadays. Still.
Fellow Gen X'er. I've noticed that the quality of all fashion has seriously plummeted over the last 25 years. It all looks and feels like low-range mall chain merchandise from the 80's.
I actually disagree on your take on Brooklyn and empire carryall. Especially for empire carryall 48, 1600 price tag for that size and hand brushed leather to create the worn and soggy style is definitely worth it when comparinh to other designer brands for the similar style ( 4k above).
I think the $1600 is only for the 48 burnished honey colour which they made very limited quantities of. This was mentioned in one of the TIkToks I saw. Only less 10 was made I believe. While other colours should retail about $800+
Strongly disagree with your takes here. Chanel and Louis Vuitton are producing bags that the handles fall off of and yet, somehow, folks still dish out 9k and more. With the price of everything going up, I think the bags are priced and well produced. The Brooklyn 39 I saw in store was stunning. But that’s just me
I think COACH is doing a good job reproducing these bags that are affordable, not everyone can afford The Row and Hermes. By the way I just bought a simple tote from LL Bean and had my initials put on, getting a lot of compliments, I do have luxury items, but I’m not obsessed with them!
As someone who remembers coach leather from the late 90s to the early 2000s the coach bags of today don’t compare or compete. It’s a totally different products. For coach the prices have definitely crept up over the past few years and for contemporary they are over priced. Luxury or contemporary if it’s not good it’s just not good
I have the Margaux and I have to say it’s so frustrating when people compare it to the Birkin. Why can’t it just be the Margaux? And why diss the Margaux because it doesn’t “add up” to the Birkin? It doesn’t have to be one or the other, both can be great bags.
Hey Melissa! I definitely wasn't dissing the Margaux, it's a stunning bag! I was rolling my eyes at the whole "next Birkin" conversation everyone was having earlier this year.
I could finally afford a Coach bag in my 40’s along with Dooney. I have kept a few favorites excellent quality. Dabbled in designer SLG’s in my 50’s and for my 60th BD got my LV reverse pochette ( still love it). Added a YSL, Chanel WOC which I rarely use. I just bought a Brown Coach Rowan satchel long (east/west) and it’s fabulous. Coach is drawing me back😊 Very well made, stylish and practical! Every designer makes their version of a satchel bag. I had been considering a LV speedy and Gucci’s version but would rather spend my $$ on a more unique bag shape so I chose Coach and happy I did.
It sounds like you have a great collection! And you're right, the Rowan is such a good bag. And I agree, I always prefer spending my money on something more interesting and good quality!
So apparently only one of the Empire Carryall 48 colours is $1600 because that one is hand burnished or something. But other people have been reporting that the Empire 48 in Merlot is $895US. I have a 40 on the way to me and am I really excited! I've also been using a Brooklyn 39 as my work bag for the past 2-3 ish months or so (I got one of the Buy Now bags in Forest Green when they were limited), and it's help up amazingly well. It's deceptive in how much it can hold! Between those 2 bags, I take the opposite view from you - Coach did really, really well with these releases.
Thanks for sharing! I’m just disappointed in the bags that have a center divider still. Just my opinion, but I prefer one large opening for my pouches. ☺️
I tried on the Brooklyn a few weeks ago and also thought it was way too thin...I like the look but it felt a little cheap. I haven't seen the Empire in person but I do like the style. You make some very good points about the interiors!
Thank you! Yeah, there were just little misses here and there with everything that just lead to the whole thing being a miss for me. Such a shame too, I was looking forward to it!
Me too. I was obsessed about it and finally tried it on, but I was disappointed. Instead, I bought the Coach Lori bag and you can definitely feel the quality.
As with all things, to each is own. Some of us are downright tired of the Tabby, whether it’s puffy, inflated, or deflated 😂 and others of us like a flanker with a tweak here and there. I was interested in a longer (from top to bottom) version of the Tabby and the TS scratched that itch for me. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on these.
Just grabbed the maple Brooklyn 23 for my birthday and it’s the perfect running around bag 🥰 fits my small essentials. For sure loved over the bigger ones.
I used to think Coach was “doing its thing” until I started collecting vintage pieces. The difference is clear and this isn’t even a Coach specific thing. Most brands are cutting corners now and won’t look good 25 years from now. I agree with your points here - I couldn’t really get into the new releases but I am interested in the new Dinky (in green) but would be great if I could find a vintage one.
When Stuart first revitalized the brand, I got one of the handpainted tea flower dinky bags and a custom rogue bag from their New York City flagship. The quality was so good! I also still have my tote bag from high school and similarly, the quality is amazing. I feel like Coach is starting to cheapen in their bags again, which is the old trap that they fell into… it’s tough these days so every brand is doing it!
I totally agree with your comments about the leather on the new coach bags. I examined them all and the leather quality does not compare to their vintage bags. But let’s face it Chanel and LV quality today is a joke also. Coming out with different tabby’s over and over and other styles too is no different than LV with their different Speedy’s and Neverfulls they have been doing the same thing a lot longer. Let’s face it where would Hermes be without their Birken and Kelly bags. They may be one of the few company’s where the quality has remained outstanding but as far as creativity they make the same bags in different sizes and types of leather and metal trim. But people want it so….
I agree with your take on the new collection. It seems so many manufacturers are skimping on quality to boost profits. I don't like the huge slouchy bags with no zip for security. I haven't bought Coach bags for a long time, maybe since 2005? My old ones, 80s to early 2000s are beautiful and very high quality. I've recently noticed the resurgence of the brand, but haven't found anything I really like so far. I can't stand the Tabby in any iteration. That closure is way too phallic for me. Yeah, I said it.
Thank you, Dianne! I agree- the skimping on quality is out of control. It sounds like you have a great Coach collection already with the best years represented. Hahaha, and the more I think about it- the more I see that about the Tabby too! 🤣
Interesting perspectives. I enjoy Coach design as I own several including the Brooklyn bag and Tabby bags. I agree with your point of view when it comes to the material on the Brooklyn and the multiple iterations of the Tabby styles. Thanks for sharing! ❤
I think you are spot on. I have returned the Brooklyn twice. Not crazy about the new Tabby Times Square or Carryalls. I am one of the folks that wish they would go back to the quality from the 80's and 90's. Thanks for the information.
Thank you! The Brooklyn really had my hopes up, but every time I go in to see one, it disappoints me. Hopefully Coach gets back to their roots of good quality.
I really wanted to love the Brooklyn, but I completely agree with everything you said-the execution just wasn’t there. That interior would drive me nuts! On the other hand, I’m loving the TST and can’t wait to see it age and get a little beat up for that rugged look 🤩 Great video Caleb!
I know- I was hoping the Brooklyn would be perfect, but like you said, the execution just wasn't there. 😩 And I agree, the TST would look perfect after a few years of wear! Thanks for watching!!
Thank you for this and your opinion. I agree there is a rare item that impresses me from Coach these days which is just depressing. I remember wanting everything and in multiple colors for years, but the only thing peaking my interest was the Broome from an earlier release nothing from this season. I’m just not seeing the quality but that is also apparent in other brands as well.
Thank you, Nancy. I agree- Coach used to be my go-to brand, but lately it's just been disappointing and underwhelming. Hopefully they'll catch my interest again later down the road? I hope? haha
I would like to know alternatives that you would recommend to these. I actually love the Time Square Tabby and while it may be reminiscent of an older deflated Chanel, I think the color and quality is there, as we all know Chanel prices are super inflated and the quality in my opinion is about on par with Coach as of late which says a lot for both brands. However, I'm with you on the Brooklyn line.....it honestly looks cheap to me whereas the TS Tabby looks more expensive for the price and quality. I'm honestly in love with the Empire 48 and while I understand your point about the leather thickness, if it was made with the glove tanned proprietary leather it would weigh as much as a toddler and everyone would be complaining about that. There are genuine concerns about quality vs price with all brands.....but if you have alternatives for reasonably priced and sized bags I think we would all tune in to that video!
I appreciate your thoughts about the longevity. I really want to try this style and am never going to buy the Row Margaux, so I think I'm gonna go for the 40 and just see how it lasts.
@@jenniferglapan is it just me or are there so many Margaux copies out there? I live in San Diego and have seen tons of them out and about. Fakes for sure.
I have been collecting vintage Coach for the last year and I have to agree with you on the quality. I have 2 Bleecker bags and a Legacy tote and they are really sturdy and have super nice linings.
@@CalebSnell tokonole is a burnishing gum/glue. Usually it’s brushed on and the you take a piece of glass and rub it on the nap to lay it flat. I’m sure coach uses a more industrialized version of that (probably an industrial stamping machine) since they have to work on large quantities. I bought the Brooklyn and compared it to the leather items i make myself and it’s the same finish on the flesh side.
@@CalebSnell I feel like Coach doesn’t use the highest quality leathers sometimes so if they would have used the suede interior, the fibers would have gotten all over the place too.
Overall, I wasn’t as disappointed in the collection but I loved your review!! I’m really intrigued by the Brooklyn and almost went for it in ruby recently, but I’m still undecided. I’m really shocked by the quality issues you showed. It’s so disappointing because I always loved Coach quality. 😢
I was really only looking at the Empire because of someone I saw on IG… don’t think it’s gonna be added to my collection at this time. Great video! Thanks for sharing 😊
On the fence with the empire 40 -- $695 plus tax not big on the calf leather and the fabric lining for that amount of money. I have tons of vintage Coach back to 70's whole other ball game.
I bought my first Coach bag in 1968 in High School. My last Coach bag when they left NYC. The quality of the leather is no longer appealing, nor is the interior. Everything went down hill when the bags were made for cheap labour in other countries. I still have my, now vintage, Coach bags, donated some to charity. Would I buy again? Yes, I just bought mini Rowan, red white and blue stripe, with a canvas strap. Only one I have seen. Usually, I stick with small Luxury bags, mini Totes.
You’re in good company Caleb and I’m here to support this video. The new drop isn’t a mic drop. Not impressed with the Times Square nor the Brooklyn or Empire. I think the buck stopped at the quilted tabby. Not excited. Great points you’ve made!!
All I know is I am absolutely desperate to find that merlot burnished 40, but the 2nd market prices are running at 1000 and up and for a bag of this level I jist can't quite justify it. But omg do I love it.
Also, i personal only own one version of the tabby. I have a soft tabby in grey. If i had multiple tabbys, i probably wouldn't want another one. But the pillow tabbys were never my thing. The times square version is the one
I called Coach and asked what kind of leather the Brooklyn bag is and it is goat. Just in case you wanted to know. I ordered it online but I have cancelled my order.
Agree 100%. I have two vintage Mulberry satchels and the leather is exquisite. It ages beautifully. I also look at the leather and try to envisage how it’s going to age. There is a lot of microfibre linings out there, which catch dust and dirt and bags look dirty after one use. I trust your review 100%.
Thank you so much!! And I agree- the older Mulberry bags had amazing leather! I'd love to get my hands on a well worn Bayswater in Oak- that would be awesome! And you're right about microfiber linings- not only do they produce microplastics, they get dirty so fast!
I love my Coach Amazon Green Lana Shoulder bag 🤍 for me it carries quite a lot. I love the shape, leather, and construction. Enough for me to consider purchasing a smaller bag, I was considering the Brooklyn, but I was curious if it was worth it.
Coach is my first step into getting bags that are affordable and daily use. I do have some vintage pieces…they are a die for but because of coach…I started looking into quality craftsmanship…and I landed myself with a Delvaux. Daily wear coach, fashion statement and not in your face…Delvaux
I have the OG Tabby that was much bigger minus the top handle. I didn't like when they made them puffy. However, I do like the Times Square Tabby because of the beautiful fall colorway. But I'm going to wait awhile to see if it's worth the money.
I completely agree with you on all points. When I touched the Brooklyn I was surprised by how flimsy it was and cheap it felt. The Empire is going to scratch really bad. If they had made it in a pebbled soft smooshier leather it would have been a contender for me - especially in a latte/chai color with that gold hardware.
You bring up some very good points! I too, am not a fan of the interior of the Empire but that didn’t stop me from purchasing! I like the feel and thickness of the leather. To me, it’s buttery soft and substantial. I respectfully disagree regarding the Empire 40 not aging well. I think this natural full grain has the potential to do just that! The smaller sizes of this bag, being gloved tanned leather, with scratch to death. I do hope they make more bags in this natural full grain as I over Coach’s gloved tanned leather. Thanks for the review!
I got the regular quilted tabby 26 in navy bc I think it’s the perfect shade. I agree on the center divider being annoying, but I also got the largest Times Square tabby in black bc it does remind me of vintage Chanel but without the flashy logo and I know im going to enjoy how comfortable it is. I agree with your points on craftsmanship though
My thoughts on the thinner leather of the Coach Brooklyn 39 is that if it was thicker, the bag would be unbelievably heavy, especially considering how big the bag is. Coach is known to be heavy but you wouldn't want something that heavy to carry on your shoulder, KWIM? Just my thoughts♥
I totally agree about the tabby. So over it. I ordered Brooklyn 39 in spring, returned it. Thought same thing, not worth $500. If it was cheaper I’d probably keep it. Coach prices getting higher while quality goes down. So sad. I’ve been collecting since 2002. Still have my first bag. Bought and sold many over the years. Maybe one day they’ll bring back the originals. Full grain leather. Real brass hardware. Great video!
You made me go grab my tablet. I need the bag in the back ❤Brooklyn no & that waffle looking Tabby no, but the huge version of Empirecover all….YES. I want it
I am hoping they release a nice rich tone in the largest Juliet bag. It looks nice and roomy and like it will eventually slouch nicely since its so pliable. I haven't bought new coach items since coach had the poppy line and this years items brought me back, particularly the Hamptons hobo, the lana, the fun little fruits prints on items and the bag chains. I look forward to next year and hopefully they release a nice valentine's collection and some kisslock items that showed on the runway.
I enjoyed the empire’s leather in store but you brought up good points when we were looking at them. I agree 💯 that the quality for this price point is not matching. ❤
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I agree. I love the Tabby. I own 2 (the 26 and Pillow 18) but have no interest in adding the Times Square Tabby. The Merlot color is beautiful though for Fall. Thank you for sharing!
Hey Caleb, I agree totally to all of your statements. But my most urgent question is: Which model is the coach bag behind you? I can see it to the left of your shoulder, it's burgundy and has the print "Coach Leatherware"? I am absolutely obsessed and it for my collection. Please answer my question ❤
Hi Suzanne! That's the Coach Bleecker XL Tote from 2008. They're incredibly hard to find, but I have the Mahogany and Ink colorways. I'm seeking the Chambray blue and Sand to complete my collection!
They also made the empire in a size 28 sold by Dillards. I bought and love it. I agree on the lining. I would have much preferred a leather or cloth lining. I wish they would stop cheaping it up- but they are all doing it.
Fall is also my favorite season 😊 I saw the empire in person and it’s just not my style. I think the Brooklyn is actually very nice. I will have to keep an eye on the interior that you mentioned. For what it is I think it’s a nice bag 🤎 I see your point about the tabby’s. I have various styles of tabby’s and I think I’m pretty happy with my current bags so I don’t plan on adding anymore for the time being.
i adore my brooklyn 28 and its been my everyday bag for months now. she's still beautiful. the interior is weird, i would have preferred lining but thats more of a texture thing as i like soft things, but it hasn't flaked or anything on the inside and i stuff it to the brink and im definitely not gentle with the bag thats for sure. ive gotten lots of compliments on it.
Why oh why do they have to put that center pocket in the Tabbys??? It's a narrow bag to begin with and this makes it even harder to fit stuff in it! I love the open soft Tabby (I've got the denim one you have). Also I have a bunch of 90s Coach where the inside of the bags is the other side of the leather and the leather was luscious ❤ Unfortunately mine were in a closet they had a mildew problem 😥
I love my denim Tabby! And I'm really glad it doesn't have that goofy center pocket haha! I'm sorry to hear about your vintage Coach bags, that had to be heartbreaking!
The Time Square Tabby looks like a deflated Madison Pillow. With those big apple, Statue of Liberty, yellow cab & Empire State Building charms, which by the way you can find from those I ❤ NY gift stores near Time Square, the TQ Tabby looks like a square pizza to me 😂
Sooo disappointed to hear about the Brooklyn. I really like the way it looks. I had heard about the inside flaking and couldn’t understand because I thought the inside was just the other side of the hide. Now that you’ve explained it’s poorly painted lining, I get it now. Very disappointing.
Caleb. Good review. There was a couple I thought was nice. But I don’t know about purchasing I see tabby’s everywhere. One thing on my bags I have to have a zipper close.
I watched Autumn and Dawn’s unboxings, I do like the new quilting on the tabby, it does give vintage Chanel vibes. I absolutely love the shape of the empire and the burnished look in that Merlot is omg gorgeous. But you’ve seen these in person, that makes all the difference, quality is important spending money on handbags. LV quality and Chanel have gone down hill but prices keep going up, it’s sad.
Totally agree on the Brooklyn I was just in coach yesterday the leather was so thin on the small one. I was shocked. Tabby def still in style tho. They were flying off the shelves yesterday. It’s really user friendly. The Ruby red is gorgeous
Hi Caleb! I absolutely agree with your take on the Brooklyn. I was at the Aurora outlet last weekend and popped into the Coach outlet. The Brooklyn 28 was right there when you walk in. I think it's a cute bag and the dark ruby color is lovely. But I did not care for the bag overall; the leather felt incredibly thin, the strap didn't sit right on my shoulder, 1 pocket inside, the inside, and the magnet closing. While the Brooklyn is structured, I do think this leather will pool/slouch over time - and that's fine for those that prefer that style. I just prefer my bags to be more structured and a bit heavier. Also, the design of the Brooklyn reminds me of the D&B Montecatini hobo bag (D&B Italia collection from ~2014). On another note, I got to talking to the SA, telling her I am more of a vintage Coach collector, but I do have the Bandit in my collection. She told me they discontinued the Bandit!!! She wasn't sure why. 😭 Side note: D&B please open up a location in Rosemont! 😅
I was just at the Aurora outlet today actually! I totally see your Brooklyn/Monecatini comparison. Dooney makes some fabulous bags, and I agree- they should move up to Rosemont. That would be a much quicker trip too, rather than going all the way down to Aurora! haha!
Same dear, i have chanel and lv now but I couldn’t let go of my coach items from back then too… I was in high school when mom got me my firsts… so it’s quite nostalgic to puffy bags were not my thing… only got the Cassie bc I did not want to spend on the Métis monogram…
A couple of months ago I bought a Coach Burough bag(bowling bag) in saddle. It is gloved tanned leather and leather lined. I paid $212. Last weekend I bought a Brooklyn 28 in dark stone for full price $295. I thought it was raw suede on the inside. When I got it home I saw different. It is bonded leather. A thin piece of leather bonded to a materal of some sort of backing. You are right it could peel and crumble just like my couch of the same material did. But that took a few years for that to happen and I just use my bags for a week at a time on my bag rotation. I like the bag for its lack of bling and it holds alot, unusual in the era of small bags. I am still glad I bought it. I live in California I don't see a lot of women carrying Tabbys. S. CA is full of over priced high end bags. Young women carry Chanel not Coach. But give me a good hobo any day. The price was right for what I got so I am happy
I just bought the Cedar Suede Brooklyn 39 and the interior is leather lined. I did take a look at the interior of the leather versions and I saw the weird flakey painted interior. I think they were trying to achieve the raw leather effect like the Hermes Evelyne but failed epically. The flaking on some were worse than others. I think that because the suede one is lined with leather, makes it worth the price. Coach should have lined all the Brooklyns with leather instead.
I'm totally on board with all of this. I was bummed when I went in store and saw the actual pieces (which obtw also had different hues IRL vs. on the website). I wanted SO BADLY to love these.
I know! I was so excited to see the Empire IRL, and it was just kind of a let down. And you're right, the colors aren't as rich and vivid IRL vs website.
i saw on a japanese blog some peaks of coach original releases for fall 2024… they are releasing another version of the safari tote and hamilton hobo’s (?). the Hamilton style hobo had bedazzled jacquard.
Well, i bought the Brooklyn 39, i haven't received it yet, and i am excited. I haven't bought a coach in a long time, so i will see how the quality has changed.
Hey Marietta! The backpacks are awesome! I really like the designs they did for this season. Threadsandtheory on TikTok did an awesome review on the newest backpack!
I agree !! The Brooklyn and the Empire bags look so thin and cheap 😞 Long gone are the days of 1941 leather , there is absolutely no comparison! The only one I purchased is the Times Square Tabby in the size 20 , and even that I’m 50/50 on; at least it has the jacquard lining - but I fully I agree with you , I’m underwhelmed by this collection , I was expecting more quality, and a bummer that the 26 TST only comes in Black , why didn’t they make it in all the colors ? 😢
Thank you, Millie! I miss the old days of good quality thick leather that ages well! I will say, I do appreciate the jacquard lining more than the microfiber, it's going to wear so much better.
I love my Brooklyn 39 but I did buy mine back in February after the fashion show so maybe mine is different? But my Brooklyn 39 is holding up well. I also have the Brooklyn 23 in that ruby color and I have the time square tabby coming to me in the regular size in Merlot and so excited. I do agree w/ you I do wish they made the time square tabby look alittle bit more lived in but excited to get it.
Materialinside and the length of the zipper is important to me. Zipper is too short if you waant to have it open like a tote. BUT finally a big one with a strap! The totes always become one shoulder and they keep the measurment but enlarge them making you fuzz around finding stuff. Too deep and too high. My perfect tote has not yet been made. Wipable inside is a must, too many good bags have been ruined because of the lining. Maybe if I take the scissers and cut of the zipper on this? I am about to do it on a Kate Spade tote.
I just got a Brooklyn because it is going to have a nice slouch over time but there's definitely a difference in leather quality from the bleecker that I have.
So what our your thoughts on the new Coach bags? Do you agree with me or have a different opinion? Let me know 😁
Caleb, love your channel! Honestly, I do think Coach is still darn good. I have bought them for years, moved onto higher priced luxury and still purchase Coach bags. Occasionally with all brands, I have walked into a boutique wanting to see a specific bag, was not very impressed and eventually did buy the bag. Sometimes I wonder if our expectations could be high?
Hi Donna! Thank you! And you could have a good point with expectations!
I saw an article from High Snobriety which touted the larger Caryall sizes as an affordable Birkin-like bag. Like you, I like a capacious bag, which is what interested me. The larger ones are attractive, but I appreciate your opinions about the quality. I want a bag that will last a long time and not lose its shape from daily use.
Hi , I so agree agree with your comment on declining quality. Long long time fan here, and I personally stopped buying Coach because of the cheap leather used. Its thin, thin !! Secondly I was upset to learn they used fabric designed as suede on interior in some of their products (why not allow suede of the material they use-oh that right better to hide their cheap leather) and today you look at the suede interior and it’s painted 😮 I get drapey effect look, love it, however Coach has I feel resigned the brand for cheap profit over long term quality. Similar to what you see in clothes-polyester, nylon usage over cotton and wool. Back to Coach subject, I discovered Mulberry -thick leather, suede interiors, and great design, yeah you pay , you also receive quality.
Coach is never going to die. Coach is mutable and is seen on top models, for example, Gigi Hadid wears the "Brooklyn" handbag. It is a quality leather handbag. Coach styles have evolved and have kept current with the younger generations of people. What I like most about Coach is the price. I can't see paying $4,000.00 or 5,000.00 for a handbag I wear to the supermarket or the library, etc.
I think it is fair to say that all of the brands we know and love Coach, LV, etc will never be vintage quality ever again.
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Gen X’er here. I have about 20 Coach bags from 80-90’s. There is nothing that beats them. I was always hoping as their Gen X clients aged they would bring back a (now) luxury line that is exactly those (formerly) made in USA old time thick leather bags. As fashion cycles swing and quiet luxury came out I was reallllly hoping they would do it again because I think there are a subset of us who would pay super top Coach dollar for their decades ago quality now. My vintage pieces are absolutely killing it. Blacks, British tans, forest greens, reds, they all slay nowadays. Still.
Right? I am pretty sure I will not be the last owner of my vintage Coaches. They will keep slaying long after I'm gone!
I would love it if they rereleased the older bags made at a higher quality. People would pay a pretty penny for those bags for sure!
Vintage Dooney Bourke are indestructible, probably my favorite
I just sold some older unused coach bags to a GenZ girl. :)
Fellow Gen X'er. I've noticed that the quality of all fashion has seriously plummeted over the last 25 years. It all looks and feels like low-range mall chain merchandise from the 80's.
I actually disagree on your take on Brooklyn and empire carryall. Especially for empire carryall 48, 1600 price tag for that size and hand brushed leather to create the worn and soggy style is definitely worth it when comparinh to other designer brands for the similar style ( 4k above).
@@congluo480 I agree. I love it.
The carryall 48 was on the Coach website for $895 this morning.
I think the $1600 is only for the 48 burnished honey colour which they made very limited quantities of. This was mentioned in one of the TIkToks I saw. Only less 10 was made I believe. While other colours should retail about $800+
Spot on!
Strongly disagree with your takes here. Chanel and Louis Vuitton are producing bags that the handles fall off of and yet, somehow, folks still dish out 9k and more. With the price of everything going up, I think the bags are priced and well produced. The Brooklyn 39 I saw in store was stunning. But that’s just me
Exactly, totally agree MrSincerity88!
Agree! The empire carryall is amazing
Exactly!! 💯
The empire Caryall 40 in the Merlot, is absolutely STUNNING! 🥰
I think COACH is doing a good job reproducing these bags that are affordable, not everyone can afford The Row and Hermes. By the way I just bought a simple tote from LL Bean and had my initials put on, getting a lot of compliments, I do have luxury items, but I’m not obsessed with them!
As someone who remembers coach leather from the late 90s to the early 2000s the coach bags of today don’t compare or compete. It’s a totally different products. For coach the prices have definitely crept up over the past few years and for contemporary they are over priced. Luxury or contemporary if it’s not good it’s just not good
Coach is still doing its thing . Quality leather great price points! Chanel has fallen off and prices have went way up .
It's crazy how out of whack luxury pricing is these days!
@LaLa1-24 I couldn't agree with you more. Even worse, Chanel quality has gone way down while the prices have gone way up. I am back to loving Coach!
I have the Margaux and I have to say it’s so frustrating when people compare it to the Birkin. Why can’t it just be the Margaux? And why diss the Margaux because it doesn’t “add up” to the Birkin? It doesn’t have to be one or the other, both can be great bags.
The Row paid a lot of marketing dollars to be compared to the birkin!
@@DBrooks-i3w and we just rolled with it apparently. They aren’t anything alike
I say it’s better than a Birkin because I can buy them new without playing the game!
Hey Melissa! I definitely wasn't dissing the Margaux, it's a stunning bag! I was rolling my eyes at the whole "next Birkin" conversation everyone was having earlier this year.
@@CalebSnell I’m sure it’s a marketing ploy, I just don’t see how the two compare.
Vintage Coach is top tier ❤
It really is!
I could finally afford a Coach bag in my 40’s along with Dooney. I have kept a few favorites excellent quality. Dabbled in designer SLG’s in my 50’s and for my 60th BD got my LV reverse pochette ( still love it). Added a YSL, Chanel WOC which I rarely use. I just bought a Brown Coach Rowan satchel long (east/west) and it’s fabulous. Coach is drawing me back😊
Very well made, stylish and practical! Every designer makes their version of a satchel bag. I had been considering a LV speedy and Gucci’s version but would rather spend my $$ on a more unique bag shape so I chose Coach and happy I did.
It sounds like you have a great collection! And you're right, the Rowan is such a good bag. And I agree, I always prefer spending my money on something more interesting and good quality!
So apparently only one of the Empire Carryall 48 colours is $1600 because that one is hand burnished or something. But other people have been reporting that the Empire 48 in Merlot is $895US. I have a 40 on the way to me and am I really excited!
I've also been using a Brooklyn 39 as my work bag for the past 2-3 ish months or so (I got one of the Buy Now bags in Forest Green when they were limited), and it's help up amazingly well. It's deceptive in how much it can hold! Between those 2 bags, I take the opposite view from you - Coach did really, really well with these releases.
Oh! That's good to know about the prices!
Loving Coach more and more. I wouldn’t mind the navy tabby
They did have some great colors this season!
Just found a vintage Coach 1970's bag in my mother's collection. Great condition. 😊
That's so cool! And it's even more special since it belonged to your mother!
Thanks for sharing! I’m just disappointed in the bags that have a center divider still. Just my opinion, but I prefer one large opening for my pouches. ☺️
Totally agree, they keep putting so many dividers and it makes the bag smaller inside!!!
I love my pouches too, so I know how you feel!
Hate center dividers too
i was wishing they had done a burnished times square tabby 26 it would be super cool if it was two toned❤ i love the deflated quilts❤
Right!? It would be such a vibe!
I tried on the Brooklyn a few weeks ago and also thought it was way too thin...I like the look but it felt a little cheap. I haven't seen the Empire in person but I do like the style. You make some very good points about the interiors!
Thank you! Yeah, there were just little misses here and there with everything that just lead to the whole thing being a miss for me. Such a shame too, I was looking forward to it!
Agreed
Me too. I was obsessed about it and finally tried it on, but I was disappointed. Instead, I bought the Coach Lori bag and you can definitely feel the quality.
@@martharodriguez3888 I was unfamiliar with the Lori, so googled it and it's awesome! Definitely looks higher quality!
As with all things, to each is own. Some of us are downright tired of the Tabby, whether it’s puffy, inflated, or deflated 😂 and others of us like a flanker with a tweak here and there. I was interested in a longer (from top to bottom) version of the Tabby and the TS scratched that itch for me. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on these.
Haha, you're so right! A taller Tabby would be nice!
Wowwwww - so harsh Caleb 😂😂 - kidding, but I quite love the Empire, already ordered one 😉
Haha! I'm sorry, safe space!! I hope you love your Empire!
i want the empire tooo is on my wish list
Just grabbed the maple Brooklyn 23 for my birthday and it’s the perfect running around bag 🥰 fits my small essentials. For sure loved over the bigger ones.
Happy Birthday!! I hope you had an awesome day!!
I used to think Coach was “doing its thing” until I started collecting vintage pieces. The difference is clear and this isn’t even a Coach specific thing. Most brands are cutting corners now and won’t look good 25 years from now. I agree with your points here - I couldn’t really get into the new releases but I am interested in the new Dinky (in green) but would be great if I could find a vintage one.
A vintage Dinky would be fabulous!
When Stuart first revitalized the brand, I got one of the handpainted tea flower dinky bags and a custom rogue bag from their New York City flagship. The quality was so good! I also still have my tote bag from high school and similarly, the quality is amazing. I feel like Coach is starting to cheapen in their bags again, which is the old trap that they fell into… it’s tough these days so every brand is doing it!
Hey Sofia! It's a shame Coach can't learn from their history!
I totally agree with your comments about the leather on the new coach bags. I examined them all and the leather quality does not compare to their vintage bags. But let’s face it Chanel and LV quality today is a joke also. Coming out with different tabby’s over and over and other styles too is no different than LV with their different Speedy’s and Neverfulls they have been doing the same thing a lot longer. Let’s face it where would Hermes be without their Birken and Kelly bags. They may be one of the few company’s where the quality has remained outstanding but as far as creativity they make the same bags in different sizes and types of leather and metal trim. But people want it so….
All valid points!
Fall lover over here!!! I really like the Brooklyn in suede. Great video Caleb!!! Happy weekend :)
Thank you so much! Happy Weekend!
I agree with your take on the new collection. It seems so many manufacturers are skimping on quality to boost profits. I don't like the huge slouchy bags with no zip for security.
I haven't bought Coach bags for a long time, maybe since 2005? My old ones, 80s to early 2000s are beautiful and very high quality. I've recently noticed the resurgence of the brand, but haven't found anything I really like so far. I can't stand the Tabby in any iteration. That closure is way too phallic for me. Yeah, I said it.
Thank you, Dianne! I agree- the skimping on quality is out of control. It sounds like you have a great Coach collection already with the best years represented. Hahaha, and the more I think about it- the more I see that about the Tabby too! 🤣
Interesting perspectives. I enjoy Coach design as I own several including the Brooklyn bag and Tabby bags. I agree with your point of view when it comes to the material on the Brooklyn and the multiple iterations of the Tabby styles. Thanks for sharing! ❤
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for your honesty!!
Always!
The Brooklyn had me tempted at first glance. Great points on the bag quality. I need a pretzel bag charm in my life! 😂🥰
Haha you definitely need the pretzel charm!!
I think you are spot on. I have returned the Brooklyn twice. Not crazy about the new Tabby Times Square or Carryalls. I am one of the folks that wish they would go back to the quality from the 80's and 90's. Thanks for the information.
Thank you! The Brooklyn really had my hopes up, but every time I go in to see one, it disappoints me. Hopefully Coach gets back to their roots of good quality.
I really wanted to love the Brooklyn, but I completely agree with everything you said-the execution just wasn’t there. That interior would drive me nuts! On the other hand, I’m loving the TST and can’t wait to see it age and get a little beat up for that rugged look 🤩 Great video Caleb!
I know- I was hoping the Brooklyn would be perfect, but like you said, the execution just wasn't there. 😩 And I agree, the TST would look perfect after a few years of wear! Thanks for watching!!
If you like the Coach brooklyn, i would suggest to look at the discontinued 1941 bedford or 1941 bandit on the second-hand market.
Great tip, thanks for sharing!
Vintage coach lover here, and the leather on my bucket bag from 2001 is top tier! Just impeccable! ⭐️
Right?! The old stuff is so good!
It will be sad if they start to let quality slip😮😢@@CalebSnell
Thank you for this and your opinion. I agree there is a rare item that impresses me from Coach these days which is just depressing. I remember wanting everything and in multiple colors for years, but the only thing peaking my interest was the Broome from an earlier release nothing from this season. I’m just not seeing the quality but that is also apparent in other brands as well.
Thank you, Nancy. I agree- Coach used to be my go-to brand, but lately it's just been disappointing and underwhelming. Hopefully they'll catch my interest again later down the road? I hope? haha
I would like to know alternatives that you would recommend to these. I actually love the Time Square Tabby and while it may be reminiscent of an older deflated Chanel, I think the color and quality is there, as we all know Chanel prices are super inflated and the quality in my opinion is about on par with Coach as of late which says a lot for both brands. However, I'm with you on the Brooklyn line.....it honestly looks cheap to me whereas the TS Tabby looks more expensive for the price and quality. I'm honestly in love with the Empire 48 and while I understand your point about the leather thickness, if it was made with the glove tanned proprietary leather it would weigh as much as a toddler and everyone would be complaining about that. There are genuine concerns about quality vs price with all brands.....but if you have alternatives for reasonably priced and sized bags I think we would all tune in to that video!
An alternative video is a great idea! And you made some great points! I'll have to do some research and see what I can find out for alternatives!
Yayyyy we can save some money another season 🥴or will we , we shall see 🤪
Hahaha! We just have to stay strong!
I appreciate your thoughts about the longevity. I really want to try this style and am never going to buy the Row Margaux, so I think I'm gonna go for the 40 and just see how it lasts.
Thank you, Jennifer!
@@jenniferglapan is it just me or are there so many Margaux copies out there? I live in San Diego and have seen tons of them out and about. Fakes for sure.
I have been collecting vintage Coach for the last year and I have to agree with you on the quality. I have 2 Bleecker bags and a Legacy tote and they are really sturdy and have super nice linings.
I miss the Bleecker and Legacy eras- they were so good!
The Brooklyn interior is not painted. It’s brushed with Tokonole to make the nap lay flat, essentially the interior is burnished.
So the Tokonole is brushed or painted on. That’s interesting. How were you able to find out?
@@CalebSnell tokonole is a burnishing gum/glue. Usually it’s brushed on and the you take a piece of glass and rub it on the nap to lay it flat. I’m sure coach uses a more industrialized version of that (probably an industrial stamping machine) since they have to work on large quantities. I bought the Brooklyn and compared it to the leather items i make myself and it’s the same finish on the flesh side.
The one I tried on in store was already flaking. I wish they had just finished the suede interior for a more luxe feel.
@@CalebSnell I feel like Coach doesn’t use the highest quality leathers sometimes so if they would have used the suede interior, the fibers would have gotten all over the place too.
Thanks for that info! Do you think the Tokonole in the Brooklyn interior will hold up? Flake? I, too, bought the bag
Overall, I wasn’t as disappointed in the collection but I loved your review!! I’m really intrigued by the Brooklyn and almost went for it in ruby recently, but I’m still undecided. I’m really shocked by the quality issues you showed. It’s so disappointing because I always loved Coach quality. 😢
Thank you, Lula! It really is disappointing- Coach used to always be a step above similar brands with quality- it's a real shame!
I want that Empire 48 BAAAAAAD! 😂
Great video!!! Love your content
Thank you so much!!
I was really only looking at the Empire because of someone I saw on IG… don’t think it’s gonna be added to my collection at this time. Great video! Thanks for sharing 😊
Thank you, J! I was really hoping to love the 40cm, but it had too many design quirks for me personally.
On the fence with the empire 40 -- $695 plus tax not big on the calf leather and the fabric lining for that amount of money. I have tons of vintage Coach back to 70's whole other ball game.
You're right- I prefer the older bags any day!
I bought my first Coach bag in 1968 in High School. My last Coach bag when they left NYC. The quality of the leather is no longer appealing, nor is the interior. Everything went down hill when the bags were made for cheap labour in other countries. I still have my, now vintage, Coach bags, donated some to charity. Would I buy again? Yes, I just bought mini Rowan, red white and blue stripe, with a canvas strap. Only one I have seen. Usually, I stick with small Luxury bags, mini Totes.
Hi Karyann! It's so cool that you still have some of your original Coach bags! I wish I had mine too. And the mini Rowan is super cute!
Thanks for pointing out some of these potential issues. I’m such a “it’s cute. I want it” shopper that I don’t always look at the long term wear.
I'm glad I could help! I used to be the same way, but now I want to make sure I spend my money wisely on pieces that I'll have for a really long time!
You’re in good company Caleb and I’m here to support this video. The new drop isn’t a mic drop. Not impressed with the Times Square nor the Brooklyn or Empire. I think the buck stopped at the quilted tabby. Not excited. Great points you’ve made!!
Thank you, Julie! I appreciate that! Yeah, I'm ready to see something new from Coach for sure!
All I know is I am absolutely desperate to find that merlot burnished 40, but the 2nd market prices are running at 1000 and up and for a bag of this level I jist can't quite justify it. But omg do I love it.
Stay strong! You'll find it in the right condition for the right price soon!
I tried the Times Square Tabby on in the store the other day. Its sooooo nice. I want it in the Navy. Waiting for a sale because it was full price lol
Also, i personal only own one version of the tabby. I have a soft tabby in grey. If i had multiple tabbys, i probably wouldn't want another one. But the pillow tabbys were never my thing. The times square version is the one
Very nice! The navy color is beautiful. My only Tabby is the denim one from a few summers ago. It's a great bag!
I am eyeing the Broome Carry all Bag 36
The Broome is gorgeous!
I called Coach and asked what kind of leather the Brooklyn bag is and it is goat. Just in case you wanted to know. I ordered it online but I have cancelled my order.
Hi Jayne! That surprises me that it's Goat, it feel closer to calfskin from what I can remember. Thank you for letting me know!
Agree 100%. I have two vintage Mulberry satchels and the leather is exquisite. It ages beautifully. I also look at the leather and try to envisage how it’s going to age. There is a lot of microfibre linings out there, which catch dust and dirt and bags look dirty after one use. I trust your review 100%.
Thank you so much!! And I agree- the older Mulberry bags had amazing leather! I'd love to get my hands on a well worn Bayswater in Oak- that would be awesome! And you're right about microfiber linings- not only do they produce microplastics, they get dirty so fast!
I love my Coach Amazon Green Lana Shoulder bag 🤍 for me it carries quite a lot. I love the shape, leather, and construction. Enough for me to consider purchasing a smaller bag, I was considering the Brooklyn, but I was curious if it was worth it.
The Lana is a gorgeous bag! I wish they had made one big like the Brooklyn 39, I would have bought it in a heart beat!
Coach is my first step into getting bags that are affordable and daily use. I do have some vintage pieces…they are a die for but because of coach…I started looking into quality craftsmanship…and I landed myself with a Delvaux. Daily wear coach, fashion statement and not in your face…Delvaux
I love that you're exploring different brands and finding what you love!
I have the OG Tabby that was much bigger minus the top handle. I didn't like when they made them puffy. However, I do like the Times Square Tabby because of the beautiful fall colorway. But I'm going to wait awhile to see if it's worth the money.
The colors are really good- I loved the green!
I completely agree with you on all points. When I touched the Brooklyn I was surprised by how flimsy it was and cheap it felt. The Empire is going to scratch really bad. If they had made it in a pebbled soft smooshier leather it would have been a contender for me - especially in a latte/chai color with that gold hardware.
Oooh- you're so right about the latte/chai colorway. That would be fabulous in a pebbled soft leather.
You bring up some very good points! I too, am not a fan of the interior of the Empire but that didn’t stop me from purchasing! I like the feel and thickness of the leather. To me, it’s buttery soft and substantial. I respectfully disagree regarding the Empire 40 not aging well. I think this natural full grain has the potential to do just that! The smaller sizes of this bag, being gloved tanned leather, with scratch to death. I do hope they make more bags in this natural full grain as I over Coach’s gloved tanned leather. Thanks for the review!
Thank you! I agree- using a higher quality leather than the glove tanned leather for other bags would be a good move on Coach's part!
I got the regular quilted tabby 26 in navy bc I think it’s the perfect shade. I agree on the center divider being annoying, but I also got the largest Times Square tabby in black bc it does remind me of vintage Chanel but without the flashy logo and I know im going to enjoy how comfortable it is. I agree with your points on craftsmanship though
That darn divider! haha!
My thoughts on the thinner leather of the Coach Brooklyn 39 is that if it was thicker, the bag would be unbelievably heavy, especially considering how big the bag is. Coach is known to be heavy but you wouldn't want something that heavy to carry on your shoulder, KWIM? Just my thoughts♥
That's a very valid point! I was just hoping for some heft in my bag!
I totally agree about the tabby. So over it. I ordered Brooklyn 39 in spring, returned it. Thought same thing, not worth $500. If it was cheaper I’d probably keep it. Coach prices getting higher while quality goes down. So sad. I’ve been collecting since 2002. Still have my first bag. Bought and sold many over the years. Maybe one day they’ll bring back the originals. Full grain leather. Real brass hardware. Great video!
Yeah, I'd be more on board with the Brooklyn at like $398. It just doesn't feel that nice to me at it's current price point. Thank you!!
You made me go grab my tablet. I need the bag in the back ❤Brooklyn no & that waffle looking Tabby no, but the huge version of Empirecover all….YES. I want it
Haha! Overall, it's a really neat design! I just wish I could have fallen in love with it!
Coach also sells the empire 28.
That's right!
The two bags behind you on your right, are so richly beautiful.
I think so too!
I am hoping they release a nice rich tone in the largest Juliet bag. It looks nice and roomy and like it will eventually slouch nicely since its so pliable. I haven't bought new coach items since coach had the poppy line and this years items brought me back, particularly the Hamptons hobo, the lana, the fun little fruits prints on items and the bag chains. I look forward to next year and hopefully they release a nice valentine's collection and some kisslock items that showed on the runway.
The Juliet is such a great bag! I'm so glad they're bringing back some of the classic Coach elements, I agree that this year's collection is great!
Thank you for keeping my feet on the ground lol I'm in love with the merlot/brass combo but I just haven't committed to a style.
Haha! I'm happy I could help! Yeah, I love that colorway too, it's such a classic combo.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the new Cassie 17.
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm excited to!
I have plans on turning the chain accessory into a necklace. Super cute ❤
That would be super cool!
I think it is so sad that I can’t get the empire 40 in silver or black hardware
Good point! A lot of people would like silver hardware!
I enjoyed the empire’s leather in store but you brought up good points when we were looking at them. I agree 💯 that the quality for this price point is not matching. ❤
Congratulations 👏 on the Wedding anniversary 💍 I'm sure Caleb is taking you to the Bahamas or Jamaica if he's on a budget. May ten More years of bliss 🥳 be in place for you all 🌹.
Thank you, Lonnie!
@@lonnie-rs8km thank you Lonnie! ❤️
I agree. I love the Tabby. I own 2 (the 26 and Pillow 18) but have no interest in adding the Times Square Tabby. The Merlot color is beautiful though for Fall. Thank you for sharing!
I agree- I love the Merlot! So rich!
I appreciate your honesty. I agree 100%.
Thank you so much!
Totally in agreement with you, that glove tan leather is nothing like we had seen coach before...
Thank you, catlady- and I agree 100%
Did you get a chance to see the suede quilted tabby 26? Curious to the quality of that suede.
Not yet! I'll have to go back and check it out!
Caleb, the Times Square Tabby is gorgeous though! 😂
Haha! I can appreciate it for others, but it's just not for me!
Hey Caleb, I agree totally to all of your statements. But my most urgent question is: Which model is the coach bag behind you? I can see it to the left of your shoulder, it's burgundy and has the print "Coach Leatherware"? I am absolutely obsessed and it for my collection. Please answer my question ❤
Hi Suzanne! That's the Coach Bleecker XL Tote from 2008. They're incredibly hard to find, but I have the Mahogany and Ink colorways. I'm seeking the Chambray blue and Sand to complete my collection!
They also made the empire in a size 28 sold by Dillards. I bought and love it. I agree on the lining. I would have much preferred a leather or cloth lining. I wish they would stop cheaping it up- but they are all doing it.
Yeah, the lining is such a shame!
Fall is also my favorite season 😊 I saw the empire in person and it’s just not my style. I think the Brooklyn is actually very nice. I will have to keep an eye on the interior that you mentioned. For what it is I think it’s a nice bag 🤎 I see your point about the tabby’s. I have various styles of tabby’s and I think I’m pretty happy with my current bags so I don’t plan on adding anymore for the time being.
I love my Tabby, so much! I don't think I'd ever want to add another to my collection either.
i adore my brooklyn 28 and its been my everyday bag for months now. she's still beautiful. the interior is weird, i would have preferred lining but thats more of a texture thing as i like soft things, but it hasn't flaked or anything on the inside and i stuff it to the brink and im definitely not gentle with the bag thats for sure. ive gotten lots of compliments on it.
That's great to hear! It's a striking bag!
Coach bags are such good quality definitely am looking to get quilted tabby it’s stunning and new plum and navy colour and same quality as 2k+ bags!!
The plum and navy are gorgeous colors!
What do you think about juliet ?
The Juliet is a gorgeous bag!
Why oh why do they have to put that center pocket in the Tabbys??? It's a narrow bag to begin with and this makes it even harder to fit stuff in it! I love the open soft Tabby (I've got the denim one you have). Also I have a bunch of 90s Coach where the inside of the bags is the other side of the leather and the leather was luscious ❤ Unfortunately mine were in a closet they had a mildew problem 😥
I love my denim Tabby! And I'm really glad it doesn't have that goofy center pocket haha! I'm sorry to hear about your vintage Coach bags, that had to be heartbreaking!
I love this collection and colors forever a coach fan
The colors are fabulous
Same I think they did a great job this fall even in ready to wear and shoes. They a lot of my cash this season.
I just got the Brooklyn 39 and I love it
That's great!
The Time Square Tabby looks like a deflated Madison Pillow. With those big apple, Statue of Liberty, yellow cab & Empire State Building charms, which by the way you can find from those I ❤ NY gift stores near Time Square, the TQ Tabby looks like a square pizza to me 😂
Great- now I want pizza! haha!
Sooo disappointed to hear about the Brooklyn. I really like the way it looks. I had heard about the inside flaking and couldn’t understand because I thought the inside was just the other side of the hide. Now that you’ve explained it’s poorly painted lining, I get it now. Very disappointing.
The Brooklyn is a fabulous looking bag- maybe the one I picked up at the boutique was a dud? Only time will tell!
Caleb. Good review. There was a couple I thought was nice. But I don’t know about purchasing I see tabby’s everywhere. One thing on my bags I have to have a zipper close.
Thank you, Kris! And you made some good points!
I watched Autumn and Dawn’s unboxings, I do like the new quilting on the tabby, it does give vintage Chanel vibes. I absolutely love the shape of the empire and the burnished look in that Merlot is omg gorgeous. But you’ve seen these in person, that makes all the difference, quality is important spending money on handbags. LV quality and Chanel have gone down hill but prices keep going up, it’s sad.
Quality is super important. But I agree- I do love the Merlot!
Totally agree on the Brooklyn I was just in coach yesterday the leather was so thin on the small one. I was shocked. Tabby def still in style tho. They were flying off the shelves yesterday. It’s really user friendly. The Ruby red is gorgeous
The Ruby red really is gorgeous! And it's such a shame about the Brooklyn, I had high hopes for it!
Hi Caleb! I absolutely agree with your take on the Brooklyn. I was at the Aurora outlet last weekend and popped into the Coach outlet. The Brooklyn 28 was right there when you walk in. I think it's a cute bag and the dark ruby color is lovely. But I did not care for the bag overall; the leather felt incredibly thin, the strap didn't sit right on my shoulder, 1 pocket inside, the inside, and the magnet closing. While the Brooklyn is structured, I do think this leather will pool/slouch over time - and that's fine for those that prefer that style. I just prefer my bags to be more structured and a bit heavier. Also, the design of the Brooklyn reminds me of the D&B Montecatini hobo bag (D&B Italia collection from ~2014).
On another note, I got to talking to the SA, telling her I am more of a vintage Coach collector, but I do have the Bandit in my collection. She told me they discontinued the Bandit!!! She wasn't sure why. 😭
Side note: D&B please open up a location in Rosemont! 😅
I was just at the Aurora outlet today actually! I totally see your Brooklyn/Monecatini comparison. Dooney makes some fabulous bags, and I agree- they should move up to Rosemont. That would be a much quicker trip too, rather than going all the way down to Aurora! haha!
Same dear, i have chanel and lv now but I couldn’t let go of my coach items from back then too… I was in high school when mom got me my firsts… so it’s quite nostalgic to puffy bags were not my thing… only got the Cassie bc I did not want to spend on the Métis monogram…
I love that you still have your original Coach bags. The Cassie is a great Pochette Metis alternative too!
A couple of months ago I bought a Coach Burough bag(bowling bag) in saddle. It is gloved tanned leather and leather lined. I paid $212. Last weekend I bought a Brooklyn 28 in dark stone for full price $295. I thought it was raw suede on the inside. When I got it home I saw different. It is bonded leather. A thin piece of leather bonded to a materal of some sort of backing. You are right it could peel and crumble just like my couch of the same material did. But that took a few years for that to happen and I just use my bags for a week at a time on my bag rotation. I like the bag for its lack of bling and it holds alot, unusual in the era of small bags. I am still glad I bought it. I live in California I don't see a lot of women carrying Tabbys. S. CA is full of over priced high end bags. Young women carry Chanel not Coach. But give me a good hobo any day. The price was right for what I got so I am happy
The Burough was such a unique bag! And that's good to hear that the Brooklyn 28 is small but mighty! I love a good hobo too!
I just bought the Cedar Suede Brooklyn 39 and the interior is leather lined. I did take a look at the interior of the leather versions and I saw the weird flakey painted interior. I think they were trying to achieve the raw leather effect like the Hermes Evelyne but failed epically. The flaking on some were worse than others. I think that because the suede one is lined with leather, makes it worth the price. Coach should have lined all the Brooklyns with leather instead.
I agree- a leather lining or a true finished suede would have been better!
I'm totally on board with all of this. I was bummed when I went in store and saw the actual pieces (which obtw also had different hues IRL vs. on the website). I wanted SO BADLY to love these.
I know! I was so excited to see the Empire IRL, and it was just kind of a let down. And you're right, the colors aren't as rich and vivid IRL vs website.
I just ordered a Brooklyn bag! It’s so nice and soft, I do agree it’s on the thinner side but I did actually like that. Let’s see how long it lasts!
They came in some beautiful colors this season!
Coach hire Caleb as a consultant! We need Coach to pivot and get back to the true craftsmanship and material
I'm totally here for that job! I agree, I miss the old standards at Coach!
i saw on a japanese blog some peaks of coach original releases for fall 2024… they are releasing another version of the safari tote and hamilton hobo’s (?). the Hamilton style hobo had bedazzled jacquard.
Oooh! That would be cool to see!
Well, i bought the Brooklyn 39, i haven't received it yet, and i am excited. I haven't bought a coach in a long time, so i will see how the quality has changed.
I hope you enjoy your new bag!
I have the 26 in black and LOVE IT! 💖
oh! That's a really classic choice. I might have to get the 26 as well!
I bought the 26 in Maple and it really is a lovely color. I would have loved a size 30- wonder why they jumped from 26 to 35?
I would like to know what you think about the new all leather backpacks they look buttery soft ❤
Hey Marietta! The backpacks are awesome! I really like the designs they did for this season. Threadsandtheory on TikTok did an awesome review on the newest backpack!
I agree !! The Brooklyn and the Empire bags look so thin and cheap 😞 Long gone are the days of 1941 leather , there is absolutely no comparison! The only one I purchased is the Times Square Tabby in the size 20 , and even that I’m 50/50 on; at least it has the jacquard lining - but I fully I agree with you , I’m underwhelmed by this collection , I was expecting more quality, and a bummer that the 26 TST only comes in Black , why didn’t they make it in all the colors ? 😢
Thank you, Millie! I miss the old days of good quality thick leather that ages well! I will say, I do appreciate the jacquard lining more than the microfiber, it's going to wear so much better.
@@CalebSnell yes !! 1941 bags always had jacquard lining ❤️and yes way better than micro fiber for sure
I love my Brooklyn 39 but I did buy mine back in February after the fashion show so maybe mine is different? But my Brooklyn 39 is holding up well. I also have the Brooklyn 23 in that ruby color and I have the time square tabby coming to me in the regular size in Merlot and so excited. I do agree w/ you I do wish they made the time square tabby look alittle bit more lived in but excited to get it.
I'm excited for you, Stephanie! Nothing beats the feeling of a new bag!!
Materialinside and the length of the zipper is important to me. Zipper is too short if you waant to have it open like a tote.
BUT finally a big one with a strap! The totes always become one shoulder and they keep the measurment but enlarge them making you fuzz around finding stuff. Too deep and too high. My perfect tote has not yet been made.
Wipable inside is a must, too many good bags have been ruined because of the lining.
Maybe if I take the scissers and cut of the zipper on this? I am about to do it on a Kate Spade tote.
These are all really great points! It takes a lot to make the perfect tote!
Love this video. I agree with you about the row margeaux
Thank you!
I just got a Brooklyn because it is going to have a nice slouch over time but there's definitely a difference in leather quality from the bleecker that I have.
I agree about the quality difference. But there's something so appealing about a big slouchy hobo!