Point 1: I think the game gonna benefit from that, and i think also some player gonna have more fun discover the team play gameplay. Point 2: Absolutly need this, stay on a dead season 20 days after the fight are over is terrible, and is one of the reason of players quitting. Point 3: I like the time mecanics, for don't let the big team just stomp in 1 weeks all the other team, that gonna give at least the chanche of fight to everyone, and play the early game. Point 4: Season base can be good, but i suggest more a "Account Power Base", considering the overall respect of the commander.
I also believe that the system should think about the value of the accounts and not about the playing time. In a game where strength does not depend on skill but on the equipment and respect that those in command have, those are the values to check to determine a rank.
I think Id go further than just season based and allow for skill based. People already get so many points at end of season, use those points to create a sort of ladder system so that the best teams are fighting the best teams and players who never win are playing each other
@Tylerm1013 agree, it might be a little more complicated to pull off, but matching players/teams with others that are equivalently skilled and geared will make the game much more enjoyable, especially for casual players. If devs truly want to grow the game, it has to be competitive for players at all levels of experience and spending.
Great video ATME! My suggestions: #1- Commander equipment presets. Please. #2- A way to be able to use your favorite commanders (and I know this would be another big change) is to allow us to set "kits" on a commander. For example each player gets 10 kits (that's the number of formations) and you can choose the com you want to put in the formation and assign the kit to them. Formation #1 has 2 damage, 2 support. I'll equip the support kit to Arwen, I have her high respect. I'll equip the damage kit to Dwalin, I never refunded him. Etc. All the kits should be universal. Everyone gets the same kits, damage build, support build, siege build, troop build, etc, etc. It may not be a good idea, since I know the commander skills add layers to the game. But I do agree that some commanders just can't be built well no matter how hard you try. Something should be done, especially for t2 coms that just can't compete with t3. Not everyone has a Dain and that takes away the fun.
Just came back to the game after I stopped playing the moment I saw the 2.0 PBE announcements, would be lovely if I could actually get into a server. Every faction is full or you have to wait a week or more to go through the same process. A change needs to happen to allow more people to actually get in. If you can't actually play the game and just spend time in either dead servers or bag end you will leave after repeatedly having to go through it.
instead of starting a set type of server like they do today, just let players (and groups) register for the server type they want. As the queue of people who register for that type of server hits a certain player threshold, lock in those players and start the server. You dont end up with dead servers that nobody likes to play, folks can register for a new season immediately without waiting for one to show up, and devs get super obvious data on which servers people prefer
I wonder if there could be an option to have some servers dedicated to large teams that are highly organized and competitive while other servers could be for individual players or small groups
I did my first NRP and we were pretty much done 3 weeks into the game. There’s only 3 groups that control all control points. I log in for the dailies and that’s it.
I know this isn’t anything they’d ever do but personally I would love it if our accounts merged in bag end. S3+ should be a battle of titans anyway so I don’t see the harm in letting us have cumulative progress for those of us who have played through season 1 and 2 a couple of times.
Only thing I agree with is the matchmaking, but make it based on spending. 0-1k all in same servers, 1k-10k in other servers, and everyone 10k$+ get in same servers.
@@allthingsmiddleearth im sure you could weight teams a certain way - I wouldnt do it on dollars spent, but by the total respect or something like season end points. Or just do it on an individual basis. As much as I love the teams Ive been on, Id honestly love some sort of respect based matchmaking more.
The MatchMaking Really does need to change just not fare for the new players to go up against long time players with powerful equipments and high level respect
@@Tylerm1013 yeah that's always the main problem in these mobile games. I know the company wants to make money but it can be hard on some people. Some people can afford it, some people can't, or some people chose not to because it's not important.
Yeah I am a season 3 player , dolphin, with 2 legendary at r1-r2 and facing full dain saruman Gtw and beorn full maxed out is something... Unpleasant whole army die and they have 100 casualties...
What does having a specific commander (or unit) in the front of of an army formation do for your army? Are their differnt buffs for different commanders? I kno they get the xp from tavern tips, but aside from that.
The only way we can get the updates WE want, is to stop spending money. If the whales and even people who just buy the season pass will contine, the devs can do whatever they want
I agree with everything but the early season end. If they allowed that turbo-whale groups would just be able to smash through seasons as quickly as possible and go even further out of control. I think the better solution lies within the time gating of passes and other such updates. Forcing server longevity to a point.
Imagine a whale group pops into a time gated / pass restricted server. By the second round of passes theyre the only ones even taking the gates and theyre doing it right away. I think at that point they and their competitors might be happy to end the season because its going to be a long slog for nothing, they all know how its going to end.
@Tylerm1013 I doubt they will be happy to end it because the rewards now are based on how many capitals they take so I doubt a whale team who wants those extra rewards or their allies, who could benefit for extra time to get more rewards, would just end the server
Also get rid of the intercepting on the new marching system. It's bs especially if you just started a server and everyone is crammed in certain areas. Also reinforcements should be able to cross rivers or mountains
1st there is already a season separator for teams that have never had a gold finish in a particular season. It is marked on the registration. 2nd, that won't actually fix the problem of people running through others and making them quit. The gear gap is WAY to high and couple that with the Ascension system, you whales will continue to drive others away. THOSE are the actual problems that will lead to only whales being left playing the game. The 40-50 leveling system present now also benefits whales in the extreme ensuring there complete domination. The fact that you keep talking about "breaking down relics" as a top issue shows how out of touch you are with the mass of players and the majority don't have a single relic.
I agree, the gap between spenders and non/low spenders is really the biggest problem. First few seasons I used to say an active f2p could keep up but thats frankly just not true anymore. If youre on a whale team yourself, sure, you can do alright, but youre not really contributing in a meaningful way unless youre just pathing for everyone. Its too easy to just get absolutely walloped by some dude with insane respect and insane gear
A major problem is that they really aren't listening much. This game is a copy and paste of multiple games they've released and it's just targeted to cash cow the west and then the east (which is now in trouble because of the restrictions in China). Unfortunately they just don't care that much. Would be nice to see them turn around put money in and LOWER HOW MUCH IT NOW COSTS TO GET GOLD GEAR. But I have a feeling they'll let the game die out soon as they've done with other copy and paste versions on this in the past.
It definitely seems like they are on cruise control milking those who are still willing to spend, content to let the game die when those folks stop spending enough to cover costs of servers
Ya they basically tossed those events out the window and I have no idea why. Made people try and be engaged more. The endless conflict event was awesome because you had to be actively fighting or destroying forts.
The devs haven't listened to the players since like halfway through year 1. I disagree with majority if what you suggested except the last few. Season 3 players have no business playing 5+ season teams. Need to make more players actual usable. Individual registration is gonna be more common because people are leaving and people are looking for a team that's how I got with my group. Get rid of the ascension. Why would I give a t2 or t1 a gtw gift when I could use it for gtw? Also reducing the points after ascending is ridiculous and makes any t1 commander useless.
Just finished my last season about a week ago. Was going to call it quits when 2.0 launched, but decided to give it an honest try and absolutely hate it. I played a little over a year on my main and in that whole time I can't think of one thing netease and its devs have done to truly make the game better or please its player base, with the exception to the busted ass respect refunding system they rolled out. Ruined 90% of the comms and their skill kits, ruined purple gear, ruined t2 comm and lower respect items, completely just ROBBING players for breaking down relics...and on, and on, and on. They can't even bother to attempt to communicate half the time which shows pretty much all you need to know. I refuse to pay into a game dev that has zero respect/appreciation for its players. Really hope thinks will change, would love to hear eventually that it's as good as or better than 1.0 in some ways, but at this point it's looking like a sinking ship.
not agree with 1st idea, fat agree 2nd, agree 4th u could get stronger after some season as f2p not now, its imposible with this r items, its imposible to farm a t3 now, IMPOSIBLE!!....
Id rather pay 15 bucks then to lose every season to guys that payed 10k, idc if whales keep the game alive the game is cancer with p2w make it fp2 and then watch how the game grows 100x bigger
Point 1: I think the game gonna benefit from that, and i think also some player gonna have more fun discover the team play gameplay.
Point 2: Absolutly need this, stay on a dead season 20 days after the fight are over is terrible, and is one of the reason of players quitting.
Point 3: I like the time mecanics, for don't let the big team just stomp in 1 weeks all the other team, that gonna give at least the chanche of fight to everyone, and play the early game.
Point 4: Season base can be good, but i suggest more a "Account Power Base", considering the overall respect of the commander.
I also believe that the system should think about the value of the accounts and not about the playing time.
In a game where strength does not depend on skill but on the equipment and respect that those in command have, those are the values to check to determine a rank.
Season-based match making is something that is absolutely necessary if the game wants to grow or even maintain current player-base.
I think Id go further than just season based and allow for skill based. People already get so many points at end of season, use those points to create a sort of ladder system so that the best teams are fighting the best teams and players who never win are playing each other
@Tylerm1013 agree, it might be a little more complicated to pull off, but matching players/teams with others that are equivalently skilled and geared will make the game much more enjoyable, especially for casual players. If devs truly want to grow the game, it has to be competitive for players at all levels of experience and spending.
Being in a bigger group is the primary reason I still play to this day. The community for me has always trumped the gameplay.
Great video ATME!
My suggestions:
#1- Commander equipment presets. Please.
#2- A way to be able to use your favorite commanders (and I know this would be another big change) is to allow us to set "kits" on a commander.
For example each player gets 10 kits (that's the number of formations) and you can choose the com you want to put in the formation and assign the kit to them.
Formation #1 has 2 damage, 2 support. I'll equip the support kit to Arwen, I have her high respect. I'll equip the damage kit to Dwalin, I never refunded him. Etc.
All the kits should be universal. Everyone gets the same kits, damage build, support build, siege build, troop build, etc, etc.
It may not be a good idea, since I know the commander skills add layers to the game. But I do agree that some commanders just can't be built well no matter how hard you try. Something should be done, especially for t2 coms that just can't compete with t3. Not everyone has a Dain and that takes away the fun.
the time thing is a good idea, outside battles would be better before everyone rushes to one spot
Just came back to the game after I stopped playing the moment I saw the 2.0 PBE announcements, would be lovely if I could actually get into a server. Every faction is full or you have to wait a week or more to go through the same process. A change needs to happen to allow more people to actually get in. If you can't actually play the game and just spend time in either dead servers or bag end you will leave after repeatedly having to go through it.
instead of starting a set type of server like they do today, just let players (and groups) register for the server type they want. As the queue of people who register for that type of server hits a certain player threshold, lock in those players and start the server.
You dont end up with dead servers that nobody likes to play, folks can register for a new season immediately without waiting for one to show up, and devs get super obvious data on which servers people prefer
I wonder if there could be an option to have some servers dedicated to large teams that are highly organized and competitive while other servers could be for individual players or small groups
10000% facts man - I see you love the game and the "realm" as the insight you've provided highlights it
I did my first NRP and we were pretty much done 3 weeks into the game. There’s only 3 groups that control all control points. I log in for the dailies and that’s it.
Omg this is my season i hope we meet on the ground :)
I know this isn’t anything they’d ever do but personally I would love it if our accounts merged in bag end. S3+ should be a battle of titans anyway so I don’t see the harm in letting us have cumulative progress for those of us who have played through season 1 and 2 a couple of times.
Only thing I agree with is the matchmaking, but make it based on spending. 0-1k all in same servers, 1k-10k in other servers, and everyone 10k$+ get in same servers.
That would make it almost impossible any teams that have a variety of spenders to play together
@@allthingsmiddleearth im sure you could weight teams a certain way - I wouldnt do it on dollars spent, but by the total respect or something like season end points. Or just do it on an individual basis. As much as I love the teams Ive been on, Id honestly love some sort of respect based matchmaking more.
The MatchMaking Really does need to change just not fare for the new players to go up against long time players with powerful equipments and high level respect
I dont even think its just new vs old - theres new whales that are stronger than 5 season f2p.
@@Tylerm1013 yeah that's always the main problem in these mobile games. I know the company wants to make money but it can be hard on some people. Some people can afford it, some people can't, or some people chose not to because it's not important.
Yeah I am a season 3 player , dolphin, with 2 legendary at r1-r2 and facing full dain saruman Gtw and beorn full maxed out is something... Unpleasant whole army die and they have 100 casualties...
I would love to see spender based servers because 2.0 ruined being a f2p but I know it wouldn’t work and would never happen
What does having a specific commander (or unit) in the front of of an army formation do for your army? Are their differnt buffs for different commanders? I kno they get the xp from tavern tips, but aside from that.
Btw was the Zoom call ever released?
The only way we can get the updates WE want, is to stop spending money.
If the whales and even people who just buy the season pass will contine, the devs can do whatever they want
Could you do another video on bard?
I agree with everything but the early season end. If they allowed that turbo-whale groups would just be able to smash through seasons as quickly as possible and go even further out of control. I think the better solution lies within the time gating of passes and other such updates. Forcing server longevity to a point.
Imagine a whale group pops into a time gated / pass restricted server. By the second round of passes theyre the only ones even taking the gates and theyre doing it right away. I think at that point they and their competitors might be happy to end the season because its going to be a long slog for nothing, they all know how its going to end.
@Tylerm1013 I doubt they will be happy to end it because the rewards now are based on how many capitals they take so I doubt a whale team who wants those extra rewards or their allies, who could benefit for extra time to get more rewards, would just end the server
@@dg5bhs as someone who plays on a whale team, we all want to bail on those seasons immediately because it's 2 months of boredom for garbage rewards
@Tylerm1013 and as someone who played with a whale team as well that's not always the case. Literally last server for me was the example I gave
@@dg5bhs simple, give the leading team at the time the points. They can't end the season without a majority vote anyhow
Also get rid of the intercepting on the new marching system. It's bs especially if you just started a server and everyone is crammed in certain areas. Also reinforcements should be able to cross rivers or mountains
All great ideas but the pass timer is king, would stop people signing out from early on!
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1st there is already a season separator for teams that have never had a gold finish in a particular season. It is marked on the registration.
2nd, that won't actually fix the problem of people running through others and making them quit. The gear gap is WAY to high and couple that with the Ascension system, you whales will continue to drive others away. THOSE are the actual problems that will lead to only whales being left playing the game. The 40-50 leveling system present now also benefits whales in the extreme ensuring there complete domination.
The fact that you keep talking about "breaking down relics" as a top issue shows how out of touch you are with the mass of players and the majority don't have a single relic.
I agree, the gap between spenders and non/low spenders is really the biggest problem. First few seasons I used to say an active f2p could keep up but thats frankly just not true anymore. If youre on a whale team yourself, sure, you can do alright, but youre not really contributing in a meaningful way unless youre just pathing for everyone. Its too easy to just get absolutely walloped by some dude with insane respect and insane gear
A major problem is that they really aren't listening much. This game is a copy and paste of multiple games they've released and it's just targeted to cash cow the west and then the east (which is now in trouble because of the restrictions in China). Unfortunately they just don't care that much. Would be nice to see them turn around put money in and LOWER HOW MUCH IT NOW COSTS TO GET GOLD GEAR.
But I have a feeling they'll let the game die out soon as they've done with other copy and paste versions on this in the past.
Thanks!
Thank you! :)
I don't understand them. It feels like they don't care. I'm really trying to enjoy the update. But it's been hard.
It definitely seems like they are on cruise control milking those who are still willing to spend, content to let the game die when those folks stop spending enough to cover costs of servers
They need to make some events to get more mathom coins,gear or gems for free..0 events so far
Ya they basically tossed those events out the window and I have no idea why. Made people try and be engaged more. The endless conflict event was awesome because you had to be actively fighting or destroying forts.
The devs haven't listened to the players since like halfway through year 1. I disagree with majority if what you suggested except the last few. Season 3 players have no business playing 5+ season teams. Need to make more players actual usable. Individual registration is gonna be more common because people are leaving and people are looking for a team that's how I got with my group. Get rid of the ascension. Why would I give a t2 or t1 a gtw gift when I could use it for gtw? Also reducing the points after ascending is ridiculous and makes any t1 commander useless.
Let the registration be longer, instead of having one very 5 day, istead have 14 days, and when its full they could start count down.
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Just finished my last season about a week ago. Was going to call it quits when 2.0 launched, but decided to give it an honest try and absolutely hate it. I played a little over a year on my main and in that whole time I can't think of one thing netease and its devs have done to truly make the game better or please its player base, with the exception to the busted ass respect refunding system they rolled out. Ruined 90% of the comms and their skill kits, ruined purple gear, ruined t2 comm and lower respect items, completely just ROBBING players for breaking down relics...and on, and on, and on. They can't even bother to attempt to communicate half the time which shows pretty much all you need to know. I refuse to pay into a game dev that has zero respect/appreciation for its players. Really hope thinks will change, would love to hear eventually that it's as good as or better than 1.0 in some ways, but at this point it's looking like a sinking ship.
AXED WALLE HAHAHAHA
The devs need to listen. Rant away mate.
not agree with 1st idea, fat agree 2nd, agree 4th u could get stronger after some season as f2p not now, its imposible with this r items, its imposible to farm a t3 now, IMPOSIBLE!!....
Make it anti whale, whales fuck this game
Whales make it so this game can exists lol
Unless you want it to be a game that everyone has to pay to play
Id rather pay 15 bucks then to lose every season to guys that payed 10k, idc if whales keep the game alive the game is cancer with p2w make it fp2 and then watch how the game grows 100x bigger