Vulnerable Narcissism vs Grandiose or Malignant | DIANA DIAMOND

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
  • Pathological narcissism has multiple faces and presentations, but according to Diana Diamond they all share an inability to regulate normal narcissistic needs, and this causes distortions in personality.
    Three variants of narcissistic pathology are high-functioning (grandiose), vulnerable & malignant. Diamond explains the difference between them in terms of level of personality organization.
    We interviewed Diana Diamond about narcissism and its prevalence in our society today, all the way from healthy traits to Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
    -----------------
    Diana Diamond is an expert clinician who makes use of Transference-Focused Psychotherapy in her practice treating NPD and BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder).
    Check out our interviews of Otto Kernberg and Frank Yeomans for lots more related material: Kernberg: • Dr. Otto Kernberg
    Yeomans: • Dr. Frank Yeomans
    For more information about BORDERLINE, the feature-length documentary we made about BPD, please visit: borderlinethefi...
    Our archive of videos on BPD and NPD is expanding - be sure to subscribe to our channel here: / borderlinernotes

ความคิดเห็น • 83

  • @Sameoldfitup
    @Sameoldfitup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    “A person is, among all else, a material thing, easily torn and not easily mended.” “It wasn't only wickedness and scheming that made people unhappy, it was confusion and misunderstanding; above all, it was the failure to grasp the simple truth that other people are as real as you.”

    • @gnatdagnat
      @gnatdagnat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What's this from?

    • @edan3635
      @edan3635 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@gnatdagnatFrom the novel Atonement by Ian McEwan

    • @gnatdagnat
      @gnatdagnat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edan3635 legend

  • @alchemicalsoul78
    @alchemicalsoul78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I believe I can heal for 2022. I will.

  • @eion-stephenson
    @eion-stephenson ปีที่แล้ว +20

    We should measure our politicians on such findings BEFORE they get into power....don't you think? That would be the most significant improvement to democracy.

  • @rjwalln
    @rjwalln 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I wish we had access to full Diana Diamond lectures. She is amazing. A true gemstone!

  • @jennyblairmcd
    @jennyblairmcd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Really enjoying these! Thank you for breaking it down into small chunks. Kudos.

    • @BorderlinerNotes
      @BorderlinerNotes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you for the lovely feedback!

    • @janec.kowalczyk5824
      @janec.kowalczyk5824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BorderlinerNotes I agree! I'm loving the short but, sweet videos. I'm a ACON (Adult Child of a Narcissist) with ADHD. It's harder for me to grasp all the information when it's too long. Thank you!
      P.S. I just discovered your channel. I liked 👍
      and subscribed and I hit the notification 🔔 too!

  • @sugarfree1894
    @sugarfree1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    '...ethical lapses.." lol. So polite!

  • @DarleyHavidsun
    @DarleyHavidsun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I am in love with this channel, wow. As somebody that is diagnosed with BPD, I cannot thank you all enough. ❤

  • @apostleofazathoth7696
    @apostleofazathoth7696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am really enjoying this interview. Fantastic work. It would be nice to have a full length version available.

  • @heartspacerelaxations6924
    @heartspacerelaxations6924 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What would regulating normal narcissistic supply look like. What is normal narcissism.

  • @uuutuuube3691
    @uuutuuube3691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Shes just described most people

  • @asalane20
    @asalane20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautifully clear and concise !

  • @bluest1524
    @bluest1524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you imagine being a therapist to B list movie stars in Hollywood? Good God. You would have to manage so much narcissistic wounding, grandiosity, damaged vulnerability.

    • @hectorperez1380
      @hectorperez1380 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you Imagine JLO in therapy whit Diana Diamond ? How would that be ?

    • @bluest1524
      @bluest1524 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hectorperez1380 lol! That was a very thought provoking question. JLO strikes me as a classic,shallow, pitiful narcissist. Just blatant. So, I guess the answer is... Dr. Diamond would be uniquely capable with her. It's interesting the mix of compassion and toughness these doctors must have, dealing with jerks like that. I think of it as a kind of secular, slow burn exorcism. It's more than I could do.

  • @nccamsc
    @nccamsc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Successful” overt narcissist reminds me of a college classmate, who only spoke with infantile and sarcastic cliches and just couldn’t say one normal intelligent sentence. He became the CFO of the biggest TV in my corrupt home country, even though he spent his college years eating, drinking and having sex. Years after becoming CFO he was interviewed by a business newspaper and his responses were the same infantile cliches like the ones he used 10 years earlier in college.

  • @PeterJaquesMusic
    @PeterJaquesMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "malignant narcissists... can be world leaders. Unfortunately." ok quick poll, who did everyone think of at that moment?

    • @erin9243
      @erin9243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      TRUMP🤮🤮🤢

    • @danielpincus221
      @danielpincus221 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      46-1

    • @henryhandel
      @henryhandel ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which one, lol. I can think of a handful of them, unfortunately.

    • @Tomzupp
      @Tomzupp ปีที่แล้ว

      Our president in Slovenia

    • @user-bn4nc9fc8r
      @user-bn4nc9fc8r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      experts

  • @thealchemist9781
    @thealchemist9781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1.kelihatan charming dan sukses
    2.sukses dalam dunia kerja
    3.menyembunyikan kerentantannya dg cukup baik
    4.selalu gak puad

  • @JessCyph
    @JessCyph ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What advice do you have for someone who loves a vulnerable narcissist?

    • @neomaredi5922
      @neomaredi5922 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unless they actively seek treatment.....RUN!!!

    • @user-bn4nc9fc8r
      @user-bn4nc9fc8r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      these 'pros' get it too ya know

  • @MarleyLeMar
    @MarleyLeMar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr Diamond - How does therapy connect with the client’s spiritual nature for healing and wholeness? Do you believe it’s necessary? What is your approach?

  • @healcptsd6467
    @healcptsd6467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm a very unstable vulnerable narcissist.

    • @criminalscum_514
      @criminalscum_514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Congratulations. You're in a comment section full of narcissists. You should know that no one cares.

    • @aboetarikske
      @aboetarikske 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@criminalscum_514 that's uncalled for, lol.

  • @Gyle.3559
    @Gyle.3559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good good channel

  • @gjdfjktr
    @gjdfjktr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i think i'm a vulnerable narcissistic. how do they get treated?

  • @angelamossucco2190
    @angelamossucco2190 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very helpful. Thank you.

  • @infoguy1978
    @infoguy1978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    my narc had all three attributes

  • @Star-dj1kw
    @Star-dj1kw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @CanadianBear47
    @CanadianBear47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    helpful more videos i like your content also i can understand to some extent

  • @rachaelangel4334
    @rachaelangel4334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you have a mix of different kinds?

  • @ellenvanderveen6576
    @ellenvanderveen6576 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vulnerable narcissism

  • @rileydrusilla4215
    @rileydrusilla4215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Open your Bible read Psalms chapter 10. Entire chapter.

  • @danpatrick24
    @danpatrick24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    💎💎💎

  • @0skodaoctavia0
    @0skodaoctavia0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does anyone know, how "compensatory narcississtic personality disorder" fits into this?
    Is it just a diffrent name for one of this, or npd in general?
    I've tried to look fot it on my own, but can't find clear answer, oe at least one that I understand,
    Because of english being my second language, I do not always get it.

    • @rfwoolf
      @rfwoolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I believe pathalogical narcissism is considered a compensatory disorder; the patient compensates by developing a grandeur / impervious / invulnerable false self. During times of extreme failure or embarrassment, they are said to 'decompensate', the false self is temporarily dissolved and you'll see extreme rage or extreme collapse. After some time (usually a few days) the narcissist figures out a way to resolve the mortification (it was someone else's fault, or it was their fault and they made it happen and therefore they are still in control) and he rebuilds the false self / re-compensates .

    • @0skodaoctavia0
      @0skodaoctavia0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rfwoolf
      Thanks, finally I can understand :)

    • @The-Finisher
      @The-Finisher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rfwoolf thank you that explanation is incredibly helpful.

  • @havadatequila
    @havadatequila 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Co-occurring" means they really don't know what they've got.

    • @user-in1ev1sp1k
      @user-in1ev1sp1k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Co-occurring means the patient has more than one symptom or disorder. For example, substance abuse and mental disorders tend to be co-occuring because substance abuse damages the brain and can cause mental disorders such as anxiety disorder, mood disorder etc. Inversely, people with mental disorders also tend to have issues with substance abuse because they might have low impulse control or they self medicate in order to deal with their pain. Borderline and narcissistic personality disorders co-occur because of the common factor in the cause of these disorders, abuse, neglect, etc.

    • @havadatequila
      @havadatequila 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-in1ev1sp1k I know what "co-occurring" means clinically. The definitions of personality disorders are at about the same level as Aristotelian astronomy, where elaborate explanations are needed to explain processes that aren't understood. "The glass spheres move thusly" is the same as "BPD and NPD share many co-occurring symptoms." Psychologists don't know what they have on their hands, thus, the constantly changing definitions.

    • @marissasantillan-guzman3201
      @marissasantillan-guzman3201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@havadatequila as I understand it, these labels don’t serve to define a person because the function of that is null. Rather these diagnostic labels better serve to prescribe an effective treatment. Of course, there’s the rub, I believe in one of the other videos (Dr. New’s I think) they explain that these definitions are changing. Diagnoses are a construct in the end.

    • @rw7975
      @rw7975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol thanks for clearing that up...
      Hey forensic psychiatrists - just listen to this guy.
      Stick to Quora noob.

    • @havadatequila
      @havadatequila 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rw7975 If you have a degree in forensic psychiatry, you should ask for a refund.

  • @user-jm6ds5dz3t
    @user-jm6ds5dz3t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not ONCE HAVE I HEARD ANYTHING! ABOUT CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT ?!?! NOT ONCE. YOU’RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING ON THE SURFACE - which I believe the outcome is from the LACK of developmental discipline - ie. Love and nurture and everything that comes w it. Maslow first BEFORE adaptive - maladaptive psychology. YOU DONT TALK ABOUT THE ‘ BEHAVIOR , and or the ‘environments which breed these ‘personalities’.

  • @angelbowman1486
    @angelbowman1486 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An inability to regulate normal narcissism - so someone who's crap at being a narcissist? Haha 😄 amusing thought :)

  • @NO-tz8qt
    @NO-tz8qt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    ahhh she means trump lol

  • @spookybaba
    @spookybaba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    These people know all about narcissism, as they are all narcissists themselves.

  • @matbatzcos5383
    @matbatzcos5383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woow woow 😍💋 💝💖❤️