its an abuser strategy, shaming them for not agreeing with you, not to get into the psychoanalysis of the tos player, but in a game youre likely to lie often other unhealthy mechanism may show up as well
@@padawanty1042 In @Kza's defense I don't think you need to know the details of these things in order to do them when you're upset. Get mad = lash out at teammates = shame them for disagreeing with you/throwing/whatever. Basically, you're both right imo. On a side note, I always find it sad to see people get mad at their teammates for getting played instead of acknowledging and praising that their opponent outplayed them, like 13 did in the video. But I get it!
I was 13 in that game and I under no circumstance should have been able to convince my way out of that lynch, I'm actual dog shit at lying and was pulling shit out of my ass to try and win. I'm glad I did and was able to play with pipe but that win was undeserved
That ending. Whilst I'm not surprised 14 ragequit its really on him for giving no actual indication he was even town all game. Nobody would believe with 2 town an upped mayor wouldn't reveal. He's not getting his achievement when he dies so its silly to blame others and demand blind trust as your defence.
14 definitely gamethrew in that last game. It was obvious 1 was Ret (Though I thought at first he was Necro due to his N1 saying "No town to turn into Zombies), but for 14 to not reveal as Mayor, he gamethrew. Town had an easy win and 14 blew it.
@@JacketsMind I love when you said "I'm starting to think you are the ambusher" once you see the other guy vote 1. Seals the deal if he was still thinking about letting it go.
I was in that group btw we were only 3 and we have someone who doesn't play very often that likes to meme around by saying to party at someone's house. We never cheat either and kill each other all the time At one point during a game, a few weeks ago we got the whole lobby nearly to party and there was a LO and a poisoner but since like 8 people kept visiting no one could figure out who was doing it and everything descended into chaos.
This reminds me of a Town of Salem game I played years ago, right when I think Arsonist just got released or Werewolf. I had the Witch role and I found the Mafioso. Man that was fun, pissed off the Mafia because they couldn’t hurt me and Serial Killer was dead
A few interesting stories for ya. 1)I was amne & claimed Surv D1, CL witched me N2, N3 their pois died, D4 PM whispers me asking me to remember dead pois cause they have full team. D5 it comes down to 4 coven [CL & PM & Amne Pois & Dusa] vs 1 townie [the Mayor]. I think you can figure out who won :) 2)What kinda surv refuses to vote the WW when the game is pretty much over & it's CL/PM vs WW? We all told the surv just vote & end the game but he wouldn't so the CL witched the WW into the surv & he lost cause he wouldn't vote. 3)Saved the funniest for last. I was a ret, claimed it day 1, there was also a Jailor claim day 1. Day 2 comes and 7/15 people are dead. 6 of them stoned by the Dusa who claimed jailor and 1 [a psychic] killed by the SK.
26:30 pipe says to dead chat that 1 is being played by mafia. 14 then changes their voting strategy and votes inno. IMO 14 is talking with someone in dead chat VOIP
Yeah. The only thing they could've done is to immediately have their own spy/tracker/whatever claim on them and go "Wait WHAT?!" and try convince people those two are fake and coven or something and they planned it, but it's a long stretch. _ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEONE WHO DECIDED TO GO TO A "PARTY" AS AMBUSHER._ Jesus lol. Oh and obviously the maf can't help, not even with the fake counterclaim/deflect, because IF it fails they see he's Ambusher on lynch and then it's obvious who the other maf are. Edit: Oh yeah and if he miraculously managed to convince people those other two were CL or something they'd immediately see and he'd be dead during night instead most prob. Nope he was doomed, and deservedly so.
One of my fav moments so far was being a solo poisoner getting outed night 1 being voted up saved by mafs who wanted to make havoc Poisoned the dudes who outed me and died on day 3 Joined a new game and named myself "solo poisoner" as a haha to everyone from last game Then n1 I was Bitten, stoned and stabbed by sk
I came back for the second time since 2017, back when the game was fully free, thanks to your videos. had 7 games but only 1 really good one. my first retributionist win :D |D1: claimed "useless roll" |N1: this injustice stands |N2: Sheriff --> 1 (inno) _confirmed surv claim_ |N3: Lookout --> 11 VB 2,4,15 _witnessed confirmed Invest death to 2 mafia_ |N4: Esc --> 2 _escorted 2 since 4 was lynched, 2 was upped and game won_ we had like 7 evils that game and everyone got wrecked, it was down to 5 players, 3 confirmed townies at the end, one of which was an amne that remembered spy loads of fun even though I can't focus much anymore and claimed tracker a couple times that night, and asked questions about crus a bit too much, I didn't remember they aren't in normal all any XP
Well witch in that first game seems more like evil surv unless arso's get murked early. Just seems like you gotta play witch more subtle in that role list compared to other classic lists.
Ambusher games for me usually went like how the last game went. ----- The one time I won as ambusher was legendary. It was my first ever CAA game and I claimed psychic. I killed 3 people early in the game (nights 1, 2, and 4.) The werewolf in the game took pity on me, he claimed bg to me but when the GF went to kill them they had defense on a night they said they were guarding me. I insisted on keeping the werewolf alive until the end of the game, and it came down to the GF and I, the werewolf, and a survivor. I convinced werewolf to maul the survivor that night because they voted for the GF, and it was just my GF and I. The ww had forgotten it was an ambusher game and that there was no room for a noob psy. Voted ww up and it was gg.
I don't know why people say things like "this person from this faction is still in the grave, and when this person was upped the dead faction members stayed" as if people don't stay for the merit points that are given if you stay till the end of the game. I stay even if I am solo coven and die like night 2 because I want to know who wins, and I love getting my merit points for finishing the game.
@@shiwanabe but like why not stay for that silver so you can get scrolls for roles that you want? that is the part I am having a hard time understanding, like I get 60 merit points per game, to me that is worth staying until the end because I will have enough points to buy a scroll in less than 10 games.
@@Glider5858 but like explain for someone who stays for the game no matter what role they get, like for someone who stays so they can get their 60 merit points so they can buy the scrolls they want for future games. Explain when that strat backfires because you have someone like me who refuses to leave because they want their silver.
Siding with Arsonist(s) as Witch is a risky endeavor, but always a rewarding one. Witch's barrier should work against douses as if they were an attack - that way you at least get one chance to still side Arso after you accidentally control one.
That mayor gave up an easy win. All he had to do was say "I'm surv, maf kill the last towny tonight because I side maf". Then on the 1v1 reveal and lynch.
@@JacketsMind in hind sight, I believe you. At the time though, how strong would you fear the "surv" who is going to best, voting you up if you waste a night attacking them?
People say _"Party at 12!"_ and you go to visit 12 as -Ambusher- -evil- kill ability/attacker?!? I don't even play the game and I start wondering wtf is going on in the head of some people 😑 "HEy leTS HaVe EVERYONE in tOwN sEe uS dAy 1" Edit: 2 Arsos would be interesting though 🤔🤔
27:49 - Understandable the Guy left immediately, managed to pull defeat from the jaws of Victory.
That “holy crap they were mayor” at the end absolutely sent me
That reveal of 14's role at the end omg. My javv literally dropped.
Heh. “Reveal”
What reveal they didn't reveal shit
@@TomaTTC23 They meant when Pipe went to see what 14’s role was and then revealed/saw it was mayor
@@HACKEDLOLOLOLOL ik i was joking
yep.
I think Chillin lost at the end when he said "you idiots". Last thing you do to get someone on your side is to insult them 😂
its an abuser strategy, shaming them for not agreeing with you, not to get into the psychoanalysis of the tos player, but in a game youre likely to lie often other unhealthy mechanism may show up as well
@@kza6648 i think you’re reading too much into it bro. he was just mad, he had all the info he needed and lost
@@kza6648 tos people ain’t that smart, he was just mad
@@padawanty1042 In @Kza's defense I don't think you need to know the details of these things in order to do them when you're upset. Get mad = lash out at teammates = shame them for disagreeing with you/throwing/whatever. Basically, you're both right imo.
On a side note, I always find it sad to see people get mad at their teammates for getting played instead of acknowledging and praising that their opponent outplayed them, like 13 did in the video. But I get it!
I was 13 in that game and I under no circumstance should have been able to convince my way out of that lynch, I'm actual dog shit at lying and was pulling shit out of my ass to try and win. I'm glad I did and was able to play with pipe but that win was undeserved
i like how aros is used unironically now
Is it just arso misspelled? Lmao
aros
aros
aros
@@josiecroix Someone misspelled it one time in one of Pipes videos and it just stuck as meme in the community since.
“Easy Win”
“We’ll see about that”
*7 runs into as many people as possible as ambusher n1*
Hahaha you're right, underrated comment, I forgot 7 did say that. In this context that's hilarious 😂
That ending. Whilst I'm not surprised 14 ragequit its really on him for giving no actual indication he was even town all game. Nobody would believe with 2 town an upped mayor wouldn't reveal. He's not getting his achievement when he dies so its silly to blame others and demand blind trust as your defence.
The mayor wasn't upped. The ret was. The mayor inno'd the amne-ambusher
yeah I agree
@@V00doo1Xim very fond of your name.
the vet's will 13:25 lol
N1:alert
N2:alert
N3:alert
N4: pray
N5: nononono
N6: why am i alive
“And then the anys can just be whatever” Pipetron discovering what any means, 2022 colorized
14 definitely gamethrew in that last game. It was obvious 1 was Ret (Though I thought at first he was Necro due to his N1 saying "No town to turn into Zombies), but for 14 to not reveal as Mayor, he gamethrew. Town had an easy win and 14 blew it.
yep, I hate 14 for what he did
5:16 The transporter did indeed save you, I had gone to douse you (I was spork) the night of the first ignite
That amne-turned-ambusher is amazing.
I appreciate the compliment, I'm not normally that good
@@JacketsMind I love when you said "I'm starting to think you are the ambusher" once you see the other guy vote 1. Seals the deal if he was still thinking about letting it go.
@@10thletter40 that's exactly what I was hoping for when I said it
That ambusher is a mega genius, ambushing someone at a party
Of course Dr. Jack Bright picked the chaotic option, I would expect no less.
I was Jack Bright in that game and lemme just tell you what was on my mind... Abstract Chaos :)
So basically being witch without the fear of running into arso. Big brain strat Pipe
What is this arso? Is it like the vet claim? Just a fake.
@@Dkgow it’s a meme from a guy misspelling arso
@@lofivibez182 Oops, I misspelled. I was also memeing but I typed it incorrectly when I was supposed to type it correctly,
I was in that group btw we were only 3 and we have someone who doesn't play very often that likes to meme around by saying to party at someone's house. We never cheat either and kill each other all the time At one point during a game, a few weeks ago we got the whole lobby nearly to party and there was a LO and a poisoner but since like 8 people kept visiting no one could figure out who was doing it and everything descended into chaos.
nice to see an arso + witch win since we won't be getting those often
This reminds me of a Town of Salem game I played years ago, right when I think Arsonist just got released or Werewolf. I had the Witch role and I found the Mafioso. Man that was fun, pissed off the Mafia because they couldn’t hurt me and Serial Killer was dead
Stoop Witch's afraid to leave his stoop! Stoop Witch's afraid to leave his stoop!
Classy
Yo pipe, I was the amne turned ambusher and just gotta say, it was fun playing with you
A few interesting stories for ya.
1)I was amne & claimed Surv D1, CL witched me N2, N3 their pois died, D4 PM whispers me asking me to remember dead pois cause they have full team. D5 it comes down to 4 coven [CL & PM & Amne Pois & Dusa] vs 1 townie [the Mayor]. I think you can figure out who won :)
2)What kinda surv refuses to vote the WW when the game is pretty much over & it's CL/PM vs WW? We all told the surv just vote & end the game but he wouldn't so the CL witched the WW into the surv & he lost cause he wouldn't vote.
3)Saved the funniest for last. I was a ret, claimed it day 1, there was also a Jailor claim day 1. Day 2 comes and 7/15 people are dead. 6 of them stoned by the Dusa who claimed jailor and 1 [a psychic] killed by the SK.
Average Retri game lmao
26:30 pipe says to dead chat that 1 is being played by mafia. 14 then changes their voting strategy and votes inno. IMO 14 is talking with someone in dead chat VOIP
That doesn't really make sense, because he was confirming 1 wasn't maf
Also he didn't change his vote at all, he voted before those things were said
yep was so angry about 14 changing his vote that the next game I joined was dedicated to hating 14
Is it the first time that someone claimed Vigilante on DayOne and they were actually Vigilante?
15:57 people like this grind my gears. Ambusher is outted by two different people seeing them, what kind of defense were they supposed to make?
Yeah. The only thing they could've done is to immediately have their own spy/tracker/whatever claim on them and go "Wait WHAT?!" and try convince people those two are fake and coven or something and they planned it, but it's a long stretch.
_ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEONE WHO DECIDED TO GO TO A "PARTY" AS AMBUSHER._ Jesus lol.
Oh and obviously the maf can't help, not even with the fake counterclaim/deflect, because IF it fails they see he's Ambusher on lynch and then it's obvious who the other maf are.
Edit: Oh yeah and if he miraculously managed to convince people those other two were CL or something they'd immediately see and he'd be dead during night instead most prob.
Nope he was doomed, and deservedly so.
Pipe you singlehandedly got me back into tos purchased it on steam recently and I'm having a blast thank you o7
One of my fav moments so far was being a solo poisoner getting outed night 1 being voted up saved by mafs who wanted to make havoc
Poisoned the dudes who outed me and died on day 3
Joined a new game and named myself "solo poisoner" as a haha to everyone from last game
Then n1 I was
Bitten, stoned and stabbed by sk
Good on that guy in the last one, not everyone can claim to have won having been *THREE* different roles. lol!
Funny to see a game completely flipped open evils trying to find the hiding townies in their midst
I came back for the second time since 2017, back when the game was fully free, thanks to your videos. had 7 games but only 1 really good one.
my first retributionist win :D
|D1: claimed "useless roll"
|N1: this injustice stands
|N2: Sheriff --> 1 (inno) _confirmed surv claim_
|N3: Lookout --> 11 VB 2,4,15 _witnessed confirmed Invest death to 2 mafia_
|N4: Esc --> 2 _escorted 2 since 4 was lynched, 2 was upped and game won_
we had like 7 evils that game and everyone got wrecked, it was down to 5 players, 3 confirmed townies at the end, one of which was an amne that remembered spy
loads of fun even though I can't focus much anymore and claimed tracker a couple times that night, and asked questions about crus a bit too much, I didn't remember they aren't in normal all any XP
Well witch in that first game seems more like evil surv unless arso's get murked early. Just seems like you gotta play witch more subtle in that role list compared to other classic lists.
Ambusher games for me usually went like how the last game went.
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The one time I won as ambusher was legendary. It was my first ever CAA game and I claimed psychic. I killed 3 people early in the game (nights 1, 2, and 4.) The werewolf in the game took pity on me, he claimed bg to me but when the GF went to kill them they had defense on a night they said they were guarding me. I insisted on keeping the werewolf alive until the end of the game, and it came down to the GF and I, the werewolf, and a survivor. I convinced werewolf to maul the survivor that night because they voted for the GF, and it was just my GF and I. The ww had forgotten it was an ambusher game and that there was no room for a noob psy. Voted ww up and it was gg.
I don't know why people say things like "this person from this faction is still in the grave, and when this person was upped the dead faction members stayed" as if people don't stay for the merit points that are given if you stay till the end of the game. I stay even if I am solo coven and die like night 2 because I want to know who wins, and I love getting my merit points for finishing the game.
It's because it's so common for people to leave when they can't win. It's kinda sad.
I’ve used that strat to find evils many times.
@@shiwanabe but like why not stay for that silver so you can get scrolls for roles that you want? that is the part I am having a hard time understanding, like I get 60 merit points per game, to me that is worth staying until the end because I will have enough points to buy a scroll in less than 10 games.
@@NathenTiger Oh, I don't disagree at all, it's just what I've seen happening a lot.
@@Glider5858 but like explain for someone who stays for the game no matter what role they get, like for someone who stays so they can get their 60 merit points so they can buy the scrolls they want for future games. Explain when that strat backfires because you have someone like me who refuses to leave because they want their silver.
Thanks for the video. Glad to see another witch game
21:09 ganging up on 5 being arso HhahH
i know one of my favourite witch strategies is to find roleblockers and rb TIs instead of actively trying to find evils
Siding with Arsonist(s) as Witch is a risky endeavor, but always a rewarding one.
Witch's barrier should work against douses as if they were an attack - that way you at least get one chance to still side Arso after you accidentally control one.
arsonists deal unstoppable attacks
@@jungwoniz Think they mean Witch's barrier should automatically clean the douse if it's still active at the time
@@lunarixis9957 ohhh ok ty
The animation team was having WAYY too much fun with this one😂😂
Yes! The return of the aros!
Just won my first solo mafioso with 4 coven and 3 vamps to start
New Witch Strategy: play as surv
Pipe I’ve been waiting for your next grounded video on the 2nd channel!!!
14 was Mayor?!
I had a mafioso game where tracker went on me and lo went on my target making me 100% outed
New Pipe video, how are you pipe?
Pipe you said you will play Bloxston mystery but you didint???
Saved by the amne
Can someone link the video with the original Aros meme game?
GG Great video as always :) - Brim
That mayor gave up an easy win. All he had to do was say "I'm surv, maf kill the last towny tonight because I side maf". Then on the 1v1 reveal and lynch.
I was the amne turned ambushed that game and honestly would of still killed him as I only trust d1 surv claims
@@JacketsMind in hind sight, I believe you. At the time though, how strong would you fear the "surv" who is going to best, voting you up if you waste a night attacking them?
14 could have faked vet and made 13 paranoided to not attack him tho
Hell yeah
Game 1 strat name: The vibing witch
I was the ret in the second game btw.
I wish I saw this comment a month ago, I was the amne turned ambushed. Sorry I somehow played the major into innoing me, I did not deserve that win
Your tactics confuse me Pipe
People say _"Party at 12!"_ and you go to visit 12 as -Ambusher- -evil- kill ability/attacker?!? I don't even play the game and I start wondering wtf is going on in the head of some people 😑
"HEy leTS HaVe EVERYONE in tOwN sEe uS dAy 1" Edit: 2 Arsos would be interesting though 🤔🤔
Yo I love witch role
14 high
Am 22nd pipe I love u I wish I could play but am poor
damn 14 got played
I really played him in that match although I did not deserve that victory, I was obviously evil in that senerio
Are you pro
Witch siding aros is new
Town threw hard 1st game
Pipe is based???
He's aros
Day 1 aros con leche claim
Hi.
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