VOGUE Learn How To Vogue The Oldway: A Lesson From the Oldway Icon Jamal Milan

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  • @djJackMF
    @djJackMF 10 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    All Vogue is important. All the New Way forms ("New Way, "Femme", etc) have their own set of complexities; but, Old Way is the CORE and HEART of Vogue in its dance form. Furthermore, it requires a lot of fore thought... in that every move forward you make MUST consider what the following move will be; because, you want to land in the pose that is most conducive for your next move. You can afford a flaw more so in a Femme-Vogue performance; because there is enough complexity for that flaw to be "absorbed" or recovered from throughout the performance. With Old Way, you better have your strategy down and completely on point, or it will show. Something huge would be lost if we did not always have some masters of the art form around; yet, something is so timeless and universal in its wisdom, that it seems inevitable that it would just reincarnate in a new time and space. It's magic.

    • @dntskdnttll
      @dntskdnttll ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very well put. Thank you for your insight with this. New Way is nice but I see many young performers who are trying to imitate something that they think will impress or attract, but it ends up repetitive and shallow rather than showing the real art. Saying this as a young person

  • @mamjrnj
    @mamjrnj 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As the son of Legendary Original Father Hector Xtravaganza, I am delighted to see the enthusiasm for the Old Way. I am a Legend as well and still carry till this day. I am Father Michael Lang and I am the epidomy of Old Way Vogue

  • @freespirit3606
    @freespirit3606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    10 years and I’m watching to learn to continue this tradition

  • @landocalrisian2014
    @landocalrisian2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Scooter I remember seeing you as one of the new young boys who did a GREAT job in the Old Way. Excellent job Scooter. Well Done.

  • @can_you_guess_my_new_username
    @can_you_guess_my_new_username 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One day the old way will be the new way

  • @lisaelliott5006
    @lisaelliott5006 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yesss, younger generation here and obsessssed with the old way. Gives me life 👏🏼

  • @miguelmelendez3354
    @miguelmelendez3354 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Unfortunately where I live in West Virginia, there's no knowledge of the dance or any real appreciation for it. People here still credit Madonna for the dance....lmao (as if). I still carry on in my living room at the sweet age of 53. Father Lang

    • @taniyasmith9439
      @taniyasmith9439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Miguel Melendez how sad Madonna learned it by hanging in the Sound Factory Club

  • @jaykknight2248
    @jaykknight2248 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im so thankful you recorded this. I particularly love that historical context was included in this

  • @caramelrhapsodyjesseslife
    @caramelrhapsodyjesseslife 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Not long ago I was introduced to wonderful vogueing videos on YT by my fabulous nephew. I've enjoyed them immensely but have not fully understood the terminology, categories, History etc. Thank you for posting this. It makes me have an new appreciation for this exciting genre of dance. Now I can be cool "Auntie Lisa" when discussing dance with my talented favorite nephew. Smooches and hugs from Malden, Massachusetts.

  • @ekaterinamedvedeva6141
    @ekaterinamedvedeva6141 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atmosphere of this video is siiiickkk✨

  • @sony862
    @sony862  11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel you man. I'm just glad you watched the video. I love all styles of vogue.

  • @ojay4561
    @ojay4561 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its good and really fun, I admire what u lovely lady boys are trying to do. continue to keep the tradition alive and upload more videos I enjoy trying the steps. :-)

  • @WILLIAMCHANEL
    @WILLIAMCHANEL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The track I.D.'s in this vid are as follows: 1. "You Used To Hold Me" by Ralphi Rosario; 2. "Bango/Back To The Beat" by The Todd Terry Project; 3. "Can You Party?" by Royal House; and 4. "Love Is The Message" by MFSB.

  • @gamerzm1nd
    @gamerzm1nd 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this video is great and its awesome that someone wants to keep the old way around even tho i was only born in 1990 making me too young when it was being done at the balls Ive always hade more of a taste for it than vogue femme even tho im just learning that one, gr8 blog too i purchased that book u mentioned on there

  • @YuliaGrosheva
    @YuliaGrosheva 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for sharing this, it's really hard to learn about the Oldway. Would be great if you could share more information about technique and all the elements of it.

  • @TheBeverly7
    @TheBeverly7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRAVO , Jamal Milan

  • @MLowend
    @MLowend 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are amazing. So much passion in your art form. Old way, new way. It's all beautiful.

  • @basiliabueno222
    @basiliabueno222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gracias por este contenido de calidad y teoría, estoy empezando a sumergirme un poco más a la cultura Ballroom, me salvó la vida, me dió un sentido y un espacio seguro donde pueda ser y otrxs puedan también. Gracias a los legendarios.

  • @sony862
    @sony862  11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's wassup Joshua!! Good to hear man

  • @OhNoKRJKC
    @OhNoKRJKC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jamal Is GORGEOUS....... So Damn Cute

  • @Lovebeingdivine
    @Lovebeingdivine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truly an art

  • @BridsSing
    @BridsSing 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I WISH I WAS IN NYC TO STUDY.

  • @sony862
    @sony862  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're welcome! Thank you for watching.

  • @sony862
    @sony862  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much!!

  • @landocalrisian2014
    @landocalrisian2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jamal is too cute and such a great performer.

  • @sippapaschomchuen2553
    @sippapaschomchuen2553 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great and explain a lot thanks guys xx

  • @deshonmarcelous7729
    @deshonmarcelous7729 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love old way

  • @stevenfigueroa5756
    @stevenfigueroa5756 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I would love to know if this class still exist, and where. I would love to attend

  • @PHYRETUBE
    @PHYRETUBE 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna take this class. I'm a hip hop dancer, run my own company. I have hand performance I guess as far as vogue fem or dramatics though but when I hip hop dance, or choreograph its reminiscent of Michael Jackson where I'll go off but there are also alot of Sharp movements and clean lines.

  • @dasamess
    @dasamess 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    impressive

  • @cameon12001
    @cameon12001 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jamal, I was browsing on TH-cam for different things and saw that you are still into the voguing. I remember back in the 80's when you got started with Artimis Lewis, James and Jarrett Taylor. You probably don't remember me. I was Jarrett's friend George with the Black Sunbird. We had a lot of fun back in the day. Miss you much boo. Send me info how I can reach you best.

  • @operachild
    @operachild 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PS: your eyebrows are lovely

  • @sony862
    @sony862  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @GullyGQue
    @GullyGQue 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    where can i get these tracks to practice?

  • @sony862
    @sony862  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate it!

  • @EnterOsaka
    @EnterOsaka 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to do classes :C

  • @Theorac_al
    @Theorac_al 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Are you still teaching classes? Or do you know someone who is? I've learned a little but I want to grow

    • @padsterlove7918
      @padsterlove7918 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i want to know too. Are there any classes offered in new york?

  • @sony862
    @sony862  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey wassup...I'm down to teach you..Let me know Jaquai man

  • @isabellacarter7432
    @isabellacarter7432 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He's beautiful 😍😍😍

    • @lisaelliott5006
      @lisaelliott5006 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isabella Carter
      Right?! I'm like gorl can you write down your skincare routine?! Kthnx 😚 hahah 😆

  • @omalone1169
    @omalone1169 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason ovahness, Ronald and who ?

  • @jaquail100
    @jaquail100 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jamal my father is alverinna prestige I would love too learn old way my soul is very old school I love Tha music am a 80's baby gett backk at me

  • @sony862
    @sony862  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ...lol

  • @dfpguitar
    @dfpguitar 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does anyone have old way learning recommendations in 2025?

  • @dontahawkins
    @dontahawkins 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love how cute you are

  • @PSIONICKID
    @PSIONICKID 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    WERK JAMAL!

  • @mikelucas1183
    @mikelucas1183 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hahahahaha 😂 child she was tired 😴

  • @danielhorvath9563
    @danielhorvath9563 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    New style is ugly......

  • @donavonultraomni408
    @donavonultraomni408 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @GullyGQue
    @GullyGQue 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where can i get these tracks to practice?

    • @WILLIAMCHANEL
      @WILLIAMCHANEL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The track I.D.'s in this vid are as follows: 1. "You Used To Hold Me" by Ralphi Rosario; 2. "Bango/Back To The Beat" by The Todd Terry Project; 3. "Can You Party?" by Royal House; and 4. "Love Is The Message" by MFSB. They are all on TH-cam and available for purchase on iTunes or by ordering from Discogs online. Good luck with your old way practicing baby.

  • @StewieHo
    @StewieHo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you