Bro I swear he’d win, just because we have to massively highball all of his feats to get it so that it is debatable whether he is planetary doesn’t mean he doesn’t stomp Zeno
Saitama sneezing Jupiter is a huge feat. The strongest sneeze recorded is 12x weaker than an average persons punch. Saitama should, logically speaking, destroy Jupiter 12 times with a single normal punch at the end of his fight with garou. Luffy is barely scratching moon level with his gear 5 transformation.
The comparison is a bit unfair because you are comparing the strongest sneeze with a normal person while Saitama's case would be a normal sneeze with a trained person because Saitama's strength increases proportionally
I dont think luffy would be able to conceive the speed at which saitama moves before being another reason its called "one punch man". I honestly dont know how anyone could unironically think luffy has a chance
nah it is nowhere near close reason is at minimum naruto is roger level, and when you fight naruto you're fighting 10k naruto's that are the same strength as him, and I stg no one in one piece even stands a chance against 2k rogers@@RealComixx
@@RealComixx also naruto in kcm2 sage mode tanked an attack that split the moon in 1/2 and he did so easily, and proceeded to basically one shot toneri who would've survived the moon crashing into the earth, and who was the person crashing the moon onto the earth... some island level threats are NOT doing anything to naruto
@@RealComixx In reality luffy is nowhere near planet level. His best feats you could argue are just continental due to the size of his fist. People use the loose statement of WB's devil fruit to try and scale everyone to planetary but everyone knows that shits a lie. Characters in one piece dont go around fighting with that kind of capability. Only yonko have been capable of completely destroying islands with their best attacks, and admirals altering islands after going all out for several days. Even continental is more of a reasonable assumption rather than something that's outright confirmed.
People seem to forget that Luffy’s rubbery stretchyness has a limit. It’s shown in WCI that if Luffy stretches enough, he can break. Since Saitama is so much stronger and faster than Luffy, he should have no problem just ripping Luffy apart.
G5 seems to push or erase that limit. Granted, I do believe it just pushes the limit. But if it was erased... Well normal punches won't work. (But Saitama still wins. I am just adding my take on the limit and saying WCI feats are basically no longer usable )
@@Aluja77 Increased limits doesn't mean infinite. This is a no limit fallacy. It's like how you can't defeat Ganondorf without the master swords in all the Zelda Games prior BoTW.
@@archflamingo9156saitama can touch intangible object and has immense power to his attack to which luffy has never encountered before. Let’s be real here saitama has a minimum of planetary attack. Luffy isn’t even really immune to blunt force. Why do you think you see him wounded and damage from his battles? Saitama who scales higher and has bizarre abilities will one shot luffy. If he doesn’t get one shot he will be thrown out to outspace with saitama’s air pressure alone.
And it is not that rubber is invincible. Rubber also has a breaking point if applied enough force. So Saitama can just shatter Luffy with one punch if this rule also applies to luffy which I think it does. Because in whole cake island saga Nami stated that if Luffy keeps streching his arms they would be ripped. So Saitama can just one punch Luffy like he always does.
Gear 5 allows him to stretch however he wants and can turn the environment including people into rubber. Without Haki, Saitama will most likely have to use Serious Punch to eliminate Luffy. Other than that its a cat and mouse fight but Saitama will still win though
@@ahmettekin3861 Rubber is a strange choice, but if you don't take physics into account, it sounds fun for use in a manga. But if you think about it, even if we're talking about ideal rubber, it's still easy to destroy and has severe limitations. For once the speed of rubber as it retracts is limited to 50m/s, which is pretty slow in comparison to really anything manga related. And even the best elastomers we have access to, don't stretch more than 10 times before they start to tear. Luffy shouldn't be different, so tearing him apart should work just fine. You just need enough force, or speed. With enough speed, rubber doesn't show elasticity anymore, a bit like a non-Newtonian fluid get crystal-like and shatter, if you move them fast enough. Another possibility would be to cool him below the glass temperature of rubber and shatter him, or heat the rubber untill it starts to degrade and lose it's flexibility for good. Maybe by repeatedly punching the same spot untill it heats up? Or i'm just way too fixated on the real world, and maybe shouldn't argue about the physics in a manga where heating a body over 45°C doesn't leave permanent tissue damage...
@@certainlynotmalo1.0.06 with shattering I mean the point where rubber is not elastic anymore like you said but the sheer energy of Saitama's punch would also heat up Luffy's body maybe even melting him. (Of course this is just physics and prob wouldnt applie to anime logic)
Your saying this as if it was holding him back no saitama no diffed him and it would never be close even if he only used his eyes he wpuld just blink him out of existence
bro how is this even an argument, I'd actually like to argue that saitama no diffs the entire verse (given we don't know quite how strong people like imu and dragon are but I digress)
@@incriptionSaitama grabbed a hyperspace gate(should be physically impossible due to it not being a tangible object), _and_ he broke into Phoenix Man’s mind space which again, shouldn’t be possible. Nothing they do is going to affect him
@@incription There’s also the fact that he sneezed open Jupiter. Lmaooo who in their right mind thinks that this is a fair matchup? Him vs _anyone_ in one piece…
I don't entirely think it's fair for Saitama to drown loofy since he's not entirely aware of that weakness. Rather I believe that a punch would still puncture luffy. If a sharp object can bypass Luffy's elasticity via stabbing, it's very likely that it would only take one punch.
When it comes down to the physics of it, a stab is just a very precise punch. It's all pressure over surface area. If the pressure is big enough, a fist can most certainly stab someone.
So here’s the problem with Saitama simply punching through Luffy’s rubber. Luffy’s body doesn’t actually seem to work like rubber. It just seems to do whatever Luffy thinks his body can do. So there is a good chance his normal defence against blunt attacks will still work.
@@scrubzero1735luffy simply bending reality and thinking he’s indestructible wont work since despite the unrealistic ass statements oda made, he has no feats to show hes even capable of doing this. Sure theres the argument that he doesnt know he has the power and doesnt have it “mastered” but in that case he wouldnt know how to use it against saitama unless he just accidentally pulls something that can one shot bro. But realistically luffy is never mastering this ability in the series to that extent of power since it would ruin the series which is why i dont think it’s implied that he can literally just do that, making every fight and even the hunt for the one piece completely useless, saitama bends bro over
@@lokseptic7259 There is also the possibility that Saitama could be immune to Luffy's reality-warping. While I am a fan of OPM, I am not a scholar on the power system. Seemingly, ESP is a type of reality-warping, since Geryuganshoop was able to utilize it to such a great extent that gravity itself was locally changed. Since Saitama is practically completely immune to ESP, it's arguable that Luffy neither could hax Saitama's muscles into rubber and make him weak, nor that he could just decide to withstand Saitama's punch. Tatsumaki, the most powerful (albeit possibly not most skilled) ESPer in the universe, who is constantly shielded by a nigh impenetrable forcefield, would die instantly if Saitama seriously punched her. There is no arguing otherwise. If it came to it, Saitama could definitely just vaporize the earth, since it's doubtful Luffy would consider himself capable of breathing in space. Saitama has no such weakness.
I am more curious to see how would Luffy do against the monster association. He obviously mostly easily beats the weaker ones, but characters like Platinum S. Sage Centipede, EOC and the Pyskorochi fusion would be an interesting matchup.
Honestly, I think the only OPM characters besides Saitama that could tump Luffy would be Boros, Blast, Cosmic Garou (both before and after copying serious Saitama) and God. I think Luffy would defeat everyone else. Someone like Psykorochi or Sage Centipede who relies on physcial strenght and energy beam attacks that seems to be able to split massive landmasses but not destroy planets or anything like that seem similar to Kaido to me, and Kaido took a massive L against G5 Luffy. Though I will admit that I think Platinum Sperm would pose a problem because of his speed (but he would probably not be able to hurt Luffy) and Evil Natural Ocean would similarly not be able to hurt Luffy but would admitadly be difficult for Luffy to actually kill (the girl did survive a SERIOUS punch from Saitama after all, a feat not always fully aknowledged).
like that other comment said with evil natural water could definetly beat luffy i also think tatsumaki could beat him too, being able to launch him into the ocean or space before he can react, luffy has mftl as a reaction speed but other characters like platinum sperm are just way too fast for luffy to live a second against them. same with flashy flash and even monster form garou. they just outspeed him by a lot more not to mention how psykorochi cut a section of the earth off and proceeds to use that same attack many more times i dont think luffy could beat that. even if he could survive it, it would launch him into space. speed is a factor that im not sure you have a grasp of from reacting to it and RUNNING faster then it. @@rattis
Saitama kicked a portal out of the way, serious table flip literally shattering the moon they were fighting on so that he could “match Garou’s martial arts.” Serious table flip had shattered the moon and the debris created from the force of the flip made 1000’s, possibly millions of little platforms that Saitama moved so fast on, that in an instant looked as if he had jumped across all the debris of the moon. It looked like multiple attacks were coming from Saitama at the same time as if there were multiples of him who were coming at all angles. He punched Garou so hard that the energy created from the punch blew a substantial hole in the universe. As in you can’t even see the light reflected by the stars any longer, because they aren’t there, they’re gone. During the fight Garou is matching Saitama blow for blow by copying him, and as he does so he notices that Saitama power continues growing at a faster rate than his copy ability can even keep up with. Aka you cannot fight Saitama for long, because he’s constantly growing at an exponential rate. Saitama sneezes the gas off of Jupiter revealing the core of the planet. And if all of that wasn’t enough, his reverse causality punch takes the cake. Because of Saitama’s ability to time travel, which he learned and mastered in seconds by the way, he punched Garou right before he started his fight with the hero associates. Saitama wasn’t technically in that universe yet, but Garou got hit punch that in his world so therefore, Garou got hit by a punch that wasn’t even thrown. Good luck Luffy!
Good to see you're using Comic Girl's OPM threads for your feats. She's probably the most knowledgable person on the web when it comes to One Punch Man. As for the matchup, it would be super cool to see current Puri Puri Prisoner vs human form Amai Mask.
The human form of Amai Mask can easily win even against Puri Puri Prisoner in the Manga He can easily survive against one of Fuhrer Ugly's Strongest attacks while having PTSD That attack can match Darkshine's Full strength he is also able to match Spiral Garou's full strength which is at least large mountain - Large Island level A.P Puri Puri Prisoner's best feat for now is One-shot a Demon-level threat stronger than Deep Sea King which is Mountain-level A.P Tanking Nyan casual Attacks easily which is City Level A.P And able to keep up while chasing him which is a Relativistic speed feat Compared to the Human form Amai Mask can easily knockout Dos S that even Atomic Samurai Disciple is having a hard time dealing with Who can deflect Homeless Emperor multiple Energy Blast Which is at least enough to one-shot Some Demon level of threat And a Large City level A.P each As it was able to knock down Vomited Fuhrer Ugly Human Form Amai Mask can also at least escape from Fuhrer Ugly base form in the monster association base for some time as he was able to call Tatsumaki about the Narinkis Squad And to ask for help for Tatsumaki Fuhrer Ugly Base form is so fast that every movement can leave a light trail He was able to also match Darkshine's speed to save Iaian from the evil Natural Water laser jet that was almost as fast as light Even Atomic Samurai can barely dodge and an A-Class hero that can move faster than sound can't react to dodge If he was able to escape from him even after having PTSD that means he is fast as light in his Human Form Conclusion: Puri Puri Prisoner: A.P: Mountain level Speed: Relativistic level Durability: At least Mountain level Hax: Regeneration and Transformation with default capabilities Mask Human Form A.P: Large Mountain level Speed:Nearly fast as light or even fast as light Durability: Large Mountain level Hax: extreme regeneration like Amai mask but slower, Transformation and killing intent for Stats boost
@@Trolololol123 Puri Puri tanked an attack from Cadre and Spiral Garou on mamga. Manga Amai didn't. He was one shot by Fuhrer. You can't scale to webcomic, it's different continuities. Also, PPP regenerates much faster. Nyan's attack healed in seconds. Amai was healing from Fuhrer's attacks for like 20 chapters.
@@mitromneyPuri Puri Prisoner did only tanked a Casual Attack from Nyan Nyan was sleepy when he attacked him Nyan only escaped since he didn't want to play, especially with the weak Fuhrer Ugly did a one-shot Amai Mask but it was the same attack he used against the full strength of Darkshine which ended up being equal This means That attack can also one-shot Puri Puri Prisoner Amai Mask underground was tanking other attacks of Fuhrer Ugly And Amai Mask got split in half that's why his regeneration takes time unlike Puri Puri Prisoner which is only a simple scratch that even other Weak heroes survived Also, Amai Mask is confident of killing every s class hero except Blast and Tatsumaki even though he knows all their skills While Puri Puri Prisoner knows that he is the weakest of S-class heroes even weaker than Tank Top Master
Keep in mind that Saitama got so strong he sneezed apart Jupiter after a couple seconds of fighting maybe even less because they are moving faster than light so the fight didn’t even last that long it was basically instant if you don’t count the talking and he got THAT strong he is the definition of broken also that galaxy feat was literally before he got that strong so you tell me what that means 💀
It's hard to tell if the description of Luffy's fruit is exagerated or not, saying the only limit is his imagination makes it sound like the strongest ability in all of fiction, but in practise he still took a lot of time to beat Kaido, so it's pretty hard to tell.
I don't think there's a such thing as "low tier toon force", It's possible that he didn't want to end the fight instantly and just thought of ways to have fun during it, afterall the only limit is (supposed to be) his imagination.@@joshualanghorst3972
The reason is because Luffy doesn't actually know any of that. Only the readers are aware of that statement. He doesn't know what fruit he has or the true power it wields. He was just fumbling around with his fruit trying things out at random.
People gotta remember that Luffy is not toonforce. He is just applying his rubber properties to the environment like other awakened characters (with the addition of conquerers haki which allows him to have a stronger awakening). As for the goofy expressions that everyone has, lets not forget that One Piece always had goofy characters with goofy expressions even at the start of the manga (with their jaws dropping down like crazy or their eyes popping out), so its nothing exclusive or new to gear 5. So this is a mismatch. As luffy is still following the rules of his series. Saitama's power is to break logic/rules with his brute strength plus he can't be physically damaged from what we know, so it's a pointless match-up.
Yep even if he has toon force its just turning everything to rubber which gives his somewhat accessed to toon force physics but thats it lol Saitama one punch fart can destroy earth while he will die due to no oxygen
Honestly one piece scalers make me madd. Idc what feats luffy has, he is not greatly faster than light. If that was true, kizaru would be super slow but his whole identity is being super fast. When oda shows luffy dodging a laser he doesnt intend to show that he surpassed the speed of light, he just wants to show he was much faster than *before*. And i wouldnt even say that whitebeard has the power to destroy the planet. And luffy hasnt shown any feats where he can destorys a whole island let alone the planet
Saitama also grew multiple times stronger since that part of the fight where garou and him created that huge void which alot of people forget to mention whilst scaling him.
Luffy : took him a whole year and a half just to learn the basics of haki and he had a teacher Saitama: becomes a better haki master than Shanks and Roger combined just by mimicking Luffy
People have to realise that all of Saitama's feats have been effortless on his part. He has never broken a sweat or had any signs of being wounded in any way.
Saitama has double the toon force of Luffy. - Farting to cross half the solar system (MTFL) - Sneezing away Jupiter - Learning to time-travel in minutes - Skull-crushing black holes - Grabbing and kicking cracks in space - Damaging a spiritual dimension by punching - Moving hyperspace gates And he is supposedly just a normal dude with super strength.
@tykothamby5474 genuinely that is how one punch man I'd written tho. It is a gag manga, whatever situation he is win he will pull through no matter what. Not salty about the loss, it was very clear, just thought he was talking about saitama.
Lol, Luffy claps all anime verses. He can do anything with his will. He is literally a god with no weakness. Sea won't work on him because he can erase sea because he can manipulate reality. Do you think character like Saitama, Goku , stands chance against him? Lol. :~ this what one piece fans are thinking 😂😂 not me
Not exactly, the only people who think like this are the fans of one pumch man, which is fair due to the feats that saitama has. One piece fans are happy enough to watch peak in peace.
I dont think this is a matchup anyone asked for, these two are on totally different levels and it would be more respectful to each character to not put them against each other. A better matchup for Luffy would be against The Mask. and a better matchup or saitama would be either a fellow gag character like Deadpool, OR such an overwhelmingly powerful fictional character like Goku, superman, or Genji
*Multi-Galaxy at beginning of fight BEFORE exponential growth, meaning he's so much stronger EDIT!: I'm not being rude or condescending, I just wanted to point that out since I've seen a lot of people forget it
@@Dense_Osmium he obliterated millions of stars, if not billions with the collision of a simple serious punch...at the START of his fight with Garou. Over the course of that fight, he became at least 1000x stronger...
@@kbxbrdrI don't think it's safe to assume that Saitama destroyed any stars during his fight against Garou. It's more plausible he just annihilated the photons coming in the direction of the deflected energy, from the collision of the two serious punches...
Luffy is on the level of a city or a country, at his best, he destroyed Onigashima, which is the size of the city, and imo which is capable of destroying islands the size of countries. It is considered in the world of One Piece something beyond imagination, so I believe that Luffy is on the level of a city or a country, and Saitama destroyed millions of stars at the beginning of the fight against Garou. I think he is on a galaxy level and at the end of the fight against garou he is on a completely different level so it's not close. Sorry for the misspellings
@@Perfection-given-form Deris Rose is 757 miles in size and the state of Ohio in our world is 44,825 square miles in size, and if we say Luffy with his final blow is capable of destroying Deris Rosa, it is not even at the level of a state.
@@mryamete6029 don chinjao in his prime was able to split an ice continent, this ice was so hard that literal steel axes and flamethrowers from multiple people couldn’t even dent it, and in the anime (sub, before you say it’s just classic dubism) there was additional context that they wouldn’t even dent it if they tried for 100 years, so this ice is very durable. Why am I telling you this? Especially since the old chinjao we saw in dressrosa was specifically shown not to be able to do this? Well after old chinjao’s fight with luffy (and his head got fixed) he fought against his grandson sai, who was able to break his head again, and it was then stated AND I QUOTE “I have seen that your foot is powerful enough to split the continent of ice” This means that every character that scales above sai is atleast continental, and I don’t think I need to tell you that g4 boundman luffy in his fight with doffy is stronger than sai bc sai is kinda fodder.
You do have to remember that Luffy is a moron and has only just discovered Gear Fifth, so the idea of him being able to bend reality is still plausible given what the Gorosei state. Not that I'm trying to defend people saying Luffy can win this fight, but just saying, much like Saitama as well, we have NO IDEA of the full potential of these characters powers. For all we know, by the end of each respective manga, each character could be literally multiversal in power, but we won't know until those manga reach their conclusions. I am definitely expecting Luffy to reach a point of breaking the 4th wall at some point in the story using gear fifth and Saitama being at least multiversal in strength.
@@oremor6412 you realize people are born with their power, they dont just get it, saitama only started to train after killing the crab monster, his superpower was already there, he just had to use it
@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11 saitama and monster garou grow in power when they are pushed to the limit. Bald saitama has no limit to how far he can grow in power so he grows way faster than everyone else
I’d like to issue a fact correction about Kizaru. He can travel at light soeed and whatnot. But he can only maintain his original trajectory unless her refracts to a new one. It’s not effective for travel which is probably why he travels by ship.
Let's say Luffy is somehow able to resist Saitama punch. He could just destroy earth, depriving the oxygen. Saitama can also use reversal of causality. This dude is also able to grab hyperspace gate
Luffy in gear 5 wouldn't even be able to beat Nappa from DBZ let alone current DBS Goku. Not all characters need to be compared, they can be cool and strong on their own in their own universe.
Yeah, Nappa still loses easy, I don't know what you are smoking to think that a bald dude could beat a man who could just crush him into a ball and dunk him. 💀
When did Saitama destroy millions of galaxies? Last I checked, the stars he destroyed or pushed away, could be seen with the naked eye from Earth, which means that they were within the Milky Way galaxy. Saitama is Multi-Solar System level, not Galaxy level, and definitely not Universal.
@@Aelda69btw reason they say Galaxy is because it went outside of the ARE Galaxy so it could have destroyed another galaxy also more evidence there's no light behind it so we wouldn't know if he did or not but he definitely not multi solar
@@just-existing845 If the stars could be seen with the naked eye by characters in the OPM-verse, then they were within the Milky Way. How is Saitama Multi-Galaxy level, but couldn't destroy the Milky Way? Because he is Multi-Star to Multi-Solar System level, and that is with Garou's help, since this was a Serious Punch², meaning that it was the result of Garou's and Saitama's strength, not just Saitama's. This would actually make his feat even less impressive. Now, could Saitama destroy a solar system by himself? Sure. With enough time. But, he cannot do it in one punch, at least not by himself.
"Luffy wouldn't be gurt cuz he's made of rubber" that doesn't make him immune to blunt attacks. There is always a limit to how much force a material can withstand.
On the subject of op and opm,I'm pretty sure in universe king(the opm s class) would probably possess ridiculously huge amounts of conquers,given how he can strike fear into almost everything or in some cases kill with it,a feat not even shanks is capable of
Alright now thats debatable. Genos is freaking fast and explosive but Gear 5 Luffy is using supreme haki to the extreme and can just reshape his body, environment and even his opponent into rubber. Genos would have a hard time evaluating whats going on and the instant he gets distracted its over
8:16 That's because Luffy doesn't know his actual ability yet. Though I am in *NO WAY* trying to deny Saitama's win. You don't need to calculate to know Saitama wins, and I know very well that Saitama solos all of my favourite verses. One Piece IS my favourite anime.
It's not even by soloing verses One piece is the best anime not your favorite Opm has no good story line or plot It's just a gag anime It can be compared to attack on titan not to talk of one piece Dragon ball and opm are trash animfams are trying to defend their anime by powerscaling
Saitama removing his limiter makes completely and absolutely limitless in any facet ot existence. The only Limit is how much he cares aka how much effort he is willing to put into a fight.
@@jaffil4026we’ve learned from the cosmic fear garou vs saitama battle that if saitama was to face an opponent stronger or equal to himself he would just keep growing stronger exponentially and limitlessly to outmatch his opponent, thus making him completely unbeatable.
Anytime anyone says that some character can beat Saitama, it just proves they don't understand the definition of the character. Saitama is (by definition) unbeatable and can always win in a single punch if he's motivated enough. Saitama is like infinity while every other character is like a number. It doesn't matter how big the number is, it's still the same as 0 to infinity.
There are way crazier characters than Saitama, but if you are comparing him to one piece then yes he is drastically above that whole world. But there is a vast list of characters outside of one punch man that defeat Saitama very easily.
@@tacoshop7722 That just proves you don’t understand how Saitama is written as a character. It is a character trait of his that he is unbeatable and will always win no matter what. If you name some character that has accomplished feats far beyond anything Saitama has ever shown in OPM, when that character faced Saitama, Saitama would just “try a little harder” and instantly surpass the character in a comedic way. That’s how Saitama works. He literally cannot lose.
@@danielbrown001 there are so many characters with that same exact trait, and it is even debatable if that even is Saitama’s trait. And anyone who has destroyed more than 100 stars- galaxy level of damage has out-shown Saitama. “ The rising” to the occasion trope is not unique or even particularly strong applied to Saitama, he actually doesn’t really get all that strong in comparison to his contemporaries. He is still less impressive than goku, Saint Seiya, Simone, and maybe even Toriko (depending how you scale the ending battle). And that is just other Shonen (not even mentioning Novels or Comics). What makes Saitama so impressive? I feel like you don’t understand the character or do not read/watch many others works. His best feat of strength is destroying maybe a few hundred stars.
theres a limit to how much luffy can stretch and how much dmg he can negate from something without haki. one punch from saitama would reach that limit and beyond. he wouldnt even need haki.
@@firefistace5230 he cannot stretch infinitely, that was never stated in anything official, at least not that I’ve seen. We were told in an sbs he has a limit of 500 (or something similar) gomu gomus, a make believe unit. Regardless of the unit, a limit has been established. Gear 5 doesn’t let him stretch infinitely, it just alters the world and adds to his stretching ability.
@@firefistace5230 the joke is that the unit of measurement is fictional, so it doesn’t tell us the specifics of his actual limit. Regardless of that, he for sure has a limit to how much he can stretch. Even in the context of his fruit, it wouldn’t make sense for him to be able to stretch infinitely given that his body is finite. And we’ve seen before that he has a limit during alabasta, where he almost tore off his limbs trying to escape from some form of containment (i forgot what it was). His awakening just enhances the powers of his fruit and allows it to manipulate his environment, but it doesn’t let him transcend into infinity on any level, and hes never been shown to.
The Serious Punch ² did not destroy galaxies or Stars btw. It just caused something called a Gravitational Lense. It's still hella impressive but they did not destroy Galaxies with that Attack. Otherwise any of their follow up attacks (which where stronger then that punch) would have obliterated the Solar System.
Pretty good video. One mistake though. It was never stated that Saitama's strength grows according to the character he fights. It was only mentioned that Saitama grows continuously, with the growth becoming exponential whenever he has a surge of emotion
Basically how saitama's power works is that the more damage he takes, the more powerful he becomes, thats how he got strong in pre-training, cuz he was pushing his body so hard that he was hurting himself
Let’s be honest, this is not true Every time he fights he says I’ll kick your ass and now he has gear 5 so it will be true, all though saitama is strong. When he learns haki, remember there’s 3 kinds and observations 1 of them. It needs practice. He can dodge, but doesn’t mean he sees the future. Punching Luffy, Luffy dodged cuz he see future. When saitama dodges Luffy sees where he dodged and can do another attack he doesnt know. saitama when he punches luffy and hr doesnt dodge luffy flies back but stops in mid air. physics and imagination . remember haki also needs training . even if you learn it, its still weak. but saitama can get in faster by 10x but Luffy goes gear 2 with normal haki and punches saitama with fire punch. Saitama dodges but then like I said Luffy does another attack he wouldn’t notice. Saitama does the big boy punch and luffy blast away but he remembers ace dying cuz of his fails so Luffy goes all out and combined all haki in one punch. Copying saitama and kills him.
Saitama survived a blast that would have destroyed the entire world without any serious scratches. Name me a chapter were Luffy was above island level.
I can’t really say any cuz never happened. And the only time it happened was a weak one, still doesn’t change the fact about luffys awakening that’s kills saitama
@@Shigeru0508 I’m just too much of a one piece fan and I’m too stubborn 😭 But real opinion: Luffy would keep up a good fight till gear 5 runs out and he gets too tired and saitama kills him. But if Luffy does do everything I said before gear 5 is out, Luffy would keep a good fight and it would be saitama wins with Luffy not dead but worse than stabbing yourself 20 times and living but with many conditions. Worse than that
characters cant just have partial toon force, like when cartoon characters always have 100% toon force, it doesnt go half way, characters that appear to have toon force just do so with their own unique property to appear as if it was toon force
@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11 So? Do you agree with me or not? Also saitama's squirt lava gun attack, serious sneeze, and FTL fart also mirror toon character powers.
I agree with the comments somewhat and am siding with Saitama STRONGLY for obvious reasons, but chill, stop throwing shade at One Piece - the animanga. There are plenty of fans of it you can throw it to instead!
Facts, the actual manga and anime are fire, just make fun of the delusional fans that think luffy can literally bend reality, we haven't even seen his limit, but at most he can make anything he touches rubber.
Yeah a lot of people have already disproven that, that was galactic level. It was only multi solar system, so near the end of the fight he would be at max high galactic.
@@Gremlin969 Nah it is. I'd say that he is at max galactic. But no one actually fully knows what the trigger for his growth is, I think it is intense emotion, but yk. I'm meaning how he grew in strength during the garou fight, I already know how he broke his limiter (spoiler, dying multiple times)
@@Musashi337 Hes infinite actually, being galaxy level means you're having a proportional limit of strength on a galactic scale, saitama's limit isn't at galaxy at most since his feat in question is from his self before growth and the limiter theory goes against it of having him not bounded in growth in the first place, his growth being depicted to be in a tan 90 angle shows that if he gets pushed far enough he'd start to get to the realm of infinity, Saitama just had nobody to push him thatswhy against a multi galaxy lvl threat his power only adapted him to that far, he has no limit to his potential so if he finds someone even stronger who pushes him farther he'd transcend even spacetime as an entirety as Genos stated and transcend causality if he has to.
@@Gremlin969 No Cosmic Fear Garou was only a tiny bit stronger then him, and they gradually grew together throughout the fight, Saitama and Garou's punch was not Galactic feat, meaning that at the end of the fight, Saitama could be galactic could not. Also Saitama will gradually grow in strength against a stronger opponent, but not instantaneously. If he is fighting someone like Goku, even if Saitama grew at the same rate as he did fighting Garou, it would still take an incredibly long time. By the time he DOES reach the level of Goku in base, Goku will just simply go Super Saiyan, and we both know that when Goku realizes Saitama is growing he will be like "Ok I gotten beat him quick" and he will defeat him in an instant. Also Saitama's physical attributes are not infinite, his potential is, because if he really did have "infinite" strength, he would not have to need to grow AT ALL. Saitama would only grow to heights like universal, if he fights an incompetent idiot who spends more time talking instead of fighting, OR if he fights someone with the same growth rate as him, like a clone. Saitama does not solo fiction, but he has the POTENTIAL too. So take that as you will. Don't try to debate me on that, idrc, at the end of the day these characters don't exist, and neither Saitama nor Goku, are even in top 500-250 strongest characters in fiction anyways.
as of rn luffy has basically no toon force because he still believes his fruit is only rubber but my guess is by the end of one piece hell have full control of toon force and be unstoppable
It has be stated that imagination thing or whatever it's all related related rubber meaning he csn freely move change how his rubber works easily then his other gear
Buggy will probably cap his way out of fighting saitama and somehow become either the head of the hero organization or the leader of the monster association.
i would disagree on him not having reality warping since we saw luffy create something from his hair its a small feat but hints that he can do more if he aware of the truth of his devil fruit he still thinks he ate the rubber fruit so we can't say he doesn't have toon force because so far we only saw him fight twice until he fight someone like bb to see his true power saitama wins
Yeah too many people don't seem to understand his mental block of still thinking it's a rubber fruit. He will learn the truth then gear 5 will be full toon force power.
@@homomagii no he has he made a classes from his hair it's a small feat but because he's still unaware that his devil fruit is a zoan with imagination power he still thinks he's a rubber man which means we haven't seen his df true power yet but there will definitely be reality warping ones he become aware of his power
I don't think one piece characters are ftl as you said they have observation haki which lets them see into the feature, so the laser dodging was probably from the observation haki. Also, if you argue its pts observation haki still existed pts but it was never named until amazon lily (i think).
Just a small little note. Kizaru doesn't use his fruit for travel simply for the fun of it. It's another quick oda gave to a masivly overpowered DF to make it a little less OP. Another example of OP fruits not being used to their full power 24/7 is foxy and the...slow slow fruit, is it? Not sure of the name. But, Putting Luffy, or anyone from One Piece against most top tiers in One Punch is wild. Poor luffy getting beat up bro.
About the speed thing, you can guess when he fires, and dodge before they fire, thereby dodging the attack. In real life this happens when for example secret service jumps before and drags a president to the side, when shot at. They manage to get between the president and take the bullet, but it isn’t because they are faster than a bullet.
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Bro make a video of takatou yogiri vs OPM verse, dragon ball verse, bleach verse, jjk verse, Naruto verse, one piece verse.
saitama is not gag hes parody
@@heftymagic4814 hmm.
@@heftymagic4814 he's gag.
like gag is legit one of many aspects of toon force toon force ofc slams
When one fan base is arguing about the MC being planetary while the other MC can sneeze a planet away it’s pretty open and shut.
Bro I swear he’d win, just because we have to massively highball all of his feats to get it so that it is debatable whether he is planetary doesn’t mean he doesn’t stomp Zeno
@@fluppet2350and Saitama is faster too with him being mftl
i can calc luffy to star if u want
@@iprince7934 That doesn't matter since Saitama is literally low uni
@@maniwishihadthelongestname7641Show me a feat that gets him to uni pls /better not be a goon calc cause i can aslo get luffy to outer
Saitama sneezing Jupiter is a huge feat. The strongest sneeze recorded is 12x weaker than an average persons punch. Saitama should, logically speaking, destroy Jupiter 12 times with a single normal punch at the end of his fight with garou. Luffy is barely scratching moon level with his gear 5 transformation.
he could have sneezed a galaxy as well in that chap and it wouldnt be unbeleavable lol
The comparison is a bit unfair because you are comparing the strongest sneeze with a normal person while Saitama's case would be a normal sneeze with a trained person because Saitama's strength increases proportionally
The author of the manga literally said he could punch the galaxy away if he was motivated enough.
It's not even a contest.
Is that sneezing statistic real? What kind of sneeze is that strong?
I love huge feet
I dont think luffy would be able to conceive the speed at which saitama moves before being another reason its called "one punch man". I honestly dont know how anyone could unironically think luffy has a chance
People think Luffy has a chance against Goku even
nah it is nowhere near close reason is at minimum naruto is roger level, and when you fight naruto you're fighting 10k naruto's that are the same strength as him, and I stg no one in one piece even stands a chance against 2k rogers@@RealComixx
@@RealComixx also naruto in kcm2 sage mode tanked an attack that split the moon in 1/2 and he did so easily, and proceeded to basically one shot toneri who would've survived the moon crashing into the earth, and who was the person crashing the moon onto the earth... some island level threats are NOT doing anything to naruto
@@infinity2394 btw haven’t watched One Piece or Naruto, just heard they were both around planet level
@@RealComixx In reality luffy is nowhere near planet level. His best feats you could argue are just continental due to the size of his fist. People use the loose statement of WB's devil fruit to try and scale everyone to planetary but everyone knows that shits a lie. Characters in one piece dont go around fighting with that kind of capability. Only yonko have been capable of completely destroying islands with their best attacks, and admirals altering islands after going all out for several days.
Even continental is more of a reasonable assumption rather than something that's outright confirmed.
Saitama learning haki or using it without understanding it is actually 100% on character and I’m surprised I never considered that.
Actually he don't need it, rubber is not inmune to punches, is just resistence to it, but rubber's flexibility is not infinity.
@@KiyoLovesKitawho is gome genuine question
@@KiyoLovesKitais it a nickname of luffy I don’t watch much one piece
@@Symyulatir I mean rubber, sorry I'm spanish native speaker I thought it was "Gome" xD
If Saitama has ryou haki… I’m not even gonna mention how overpowered it be
People seem to forget that Luffy’s rubbery stretchyness has a limit. It’s shown in WCI that if Luffy stretches enough, he can break. Since Saitama is so much stronger and faster than Luffy, he should have no problem just ripping Luffy apart.
G5 seems to push or erase that limit. Granted, I do believe it just pushes the limit. But if it was erased... Well normal punches won't work.
(But Saitama still wins. I am just adding my take on the limit and saying WCI feats are basically no longer usable )
This has already been debunked with G5 tho. He literally became a Giant and had no signs of limits with his stretch
@@Aluja77 Increased limits doesn't mean infinite.
This is a no limit fallacy. It's like how you can't defeat Ganondorf without the master swords in all the Zelda Games prior BoTW.
Even then, luffy can still burn at hot enough temperatures. Punches generate heat/energy so a punch as strong as saitamas should wipe luffy
@@Narrativerse You can do anything with gear 5 as long as you dont get tired.
I was baffled to see that people thought this was even debatable
saitama claps
Literally no debate
Yeah Saitama one shots I’m also based on Luffy’s side
@@djcupcake8662he can’t one shot cuz of the rubber body
@@archflamingo9156saitama can touch intangible object and has immense power to his attack to which luffy has never encountered before. Let’s be real here saitama has a minimum of planetary attack. Luffy isn’t even really immune to blunt force. Why do you think you see him wounded and damage from his battles? Saitama who scales higher and has bizarre abilities will one shot luffy. If he doesn’t get one shot he will be thrown out to outspace with saitama’s air pressure alone.
@@archflamingo9156 that only works if someone hits Luffy’s head+ he’s Saitama
And it is not that rubber is invincible. Rubber also has a breaking point if applied enough force. So Saitama can just shatter Luffy with one punch if this rule also applies to luffy which I think it does. Because in whole cake island saga Nami stated that if Luffy keeps streching his arms they would be ripped. So Saitama can just one punch Luffy like he always does.
Gear 5 allows him to stretch however he wants and can turn the environment including people into rubber. Without Haki, Saitama will most likely have to use Serious Punch to eliminate Luffy. Other than that its a cat and mouse fight but Saitama will still win though
@@Pochitaman30 Shattering and stretching on hit is different. But yeah he Saitama would need maybe a serious punch.
@@ahmettekin3861
Rubber is a strange choice, but if you don't take physics into account, it sounds fun for use in a manga.
But if you think about it, even if we're talking about ideal rubber, it's still easy to destroy and has severe limitations.
For once the speed of rubber as it retracts is limited to 50m/s, which is pretty slow in comparison to really anything manga related.
And even the best elastomers we have access to, don't stretch more than 10 times before they start to tear. Luffy shouldn't be different, so tearing him apart should work just fine. You just need enough force, or speed. With enough speed, rubber doesn't show elasticity anymore, a bit like a non-Newtonian fluid get crystal-like and shatter, if you move them fast enough.
Another possibility would be to cool him below the glass temperature of rubber and shatter him, or heat the rubber untill it starts to degrade and lose it's flexibility for good. Maybe by repeatedly punching the same spot untill it heats up?
Or i'm just way too fixated on the real world, and maybe shouldn't argue about the physics in a manga where heating a body over 45°C doesn't leave permanent tissue damage...
@@certainlynotmalo1.0.06 with shattering I mean the point where rubber is not elastic anymore like you said but the sheer energy of Saitama's punch would also heat up Luffy's body maybe even melting him. (Of course this is just physics and prob wouldnt applie to anime logic)
but still Luffy gets sneezed
Has anyone fought someone one-handed while holding on to something that you don't want to destroy?
Saitama fought Garou handicapped and won.
And we can’t forget to take his precision in not allowing genos’ core to be damaged in the entirety of that fight
@freerobux49 You say that as if Garou could reach the core if he wanted to. No way in hell he could achieve that lmao
Your saying this as if it was holding him back no saitama no diffed him and it would never be close even if he only used his eyes he wpuld just blink him out of existence
Yoshi scales to Saitama since he does that in super smash bros melee again three opponents. same with King Kong against the dinos.
@freerobux49garou nuclear fist can't even touch genos core.
Saitama sneeze is enough to wipe out one piece out of existence
The punch used against Boros has enough force to wipe out the entire OP verse multiple times over
But luffy can turn imagination into reality
@@fa-mr9xi yeh we also saw luffy turning kaidou into a rock with his imagination and throwing it in the water and killing him instantly 🤡
@@fa-mr9xi me when I lie
@@fa-mr9xiluffy gets decapitated before he can think about doing anything with his ability.
thats like putting a mouse vs a lion bro
Not even close, at least the mouse have a chances in that situation.
@@RhazOfRheos Bro what? Did you just say a mouse had a chance against A LION
Ye he can escape
@@b9humssjheffreinsebastian598 yeah.. its small, its fast, and can even argue that its smarter than the lion.
ok but its not gonna win in a goddamn fight against a lion bro what are you yapping on about@@RhazOfRheos
bro how is this even an argument, I'd actually like to argue that saitama no diffs the entire verse (given we don't know quite how strong people like imu and dragon are but I digress)
not really, saitama would probably lose to someone with weird powers like jango, anyone with logia powers he couldnt touch etc
@@incriptionSaitama grabbed a hyperspace gate(should be physically impossible due to it not being a tangible object), _and_ he broke into Phoenix Man’s mind space which again, shouldn’t be possible. Nothing they do is going to affect him
yeah I guess@@anxnymous_bodies
@@incription There’s also the fact that he sneezed open Jupiter. Lmaooo who in their right mind thinks that this is a fair matchup? Him vs _anyone_ in one piece…
@@anxnymous_bodies Mosquito man zoan user solos Saitama
I don't entirely think it's fair for Saitama to drown loofy since he's not entirely aware of that weakness. Rather I believe that a punch would still puncture luffy. If a sharp object can bypass Luffy's elasticity via stabbing, it's very likely that it would only take one punch.
When it comes down to the physics of it, a stab is just a very precise punch. It's all pressure over surface area. If the pressure is big enough, a fist can most certainly stab someone.
@@apalsnergmade a lot of sense. A stab is just a pressure in small area
So here’s the problem with Saitama simply punching through Luffy’s rubber.
Luffy’s body doesn’t actually seem to work like rubber. It just seems to do whatever Luffy thinks his body can do. So there is a good chance his normal defence against blunt attacks will still work.
@@scrubzero1735luffy simply bending reality and thinking he’s indestructible wont work since despite the unrealistic ass statements oda made, he has no feats to show hes even capable of doing this. Sure theres the argument that he doesnt know he has the power and doesnt have it “mastered” but in that case he wouldnt know how to use it against saitama unless he just accidentally pulls something that can one shot bro. But realistically luffy is never mastering this ability in the series to that extent of power since it would ruin the series which is why i dont think it’s implied that he can literally just do that, making every fight and even the hunt for the one piece completely useless, saitama bends bro over
@@lokseptic7259 There is also the possibility that Saitama could be immune to Luffy's reality-warping. While I am a fan of OPM, I am not a scholar on the power system. Seemingly, ESP is a type of reality-warping, since Geryuganshoop was able to utilize it to such a great extent that gravity itself was locally changed. Since Saitama is practically completely immune to ESP, it's arguable that Luffy neither could hax Saitama's muscles into rubber and make him weak, nor that he could just decide to withstand Saitama's punch. Tatsumaki, the most powerful (albeit possibly not most skilled) ESPer in the universe, who is constantly shielded by a nigh impenetrable forcefield, would die instantly if Saitama seriously punched her. There is no arguing otherwise. If it came to it, Saitama could definitely just vaporize the earth, since it's doubtful Luffy would consider himself capable of breathing in space. Saitama has no such weakness.
I am more curious to see how would Luffy do against the monster association. He obviously mostly easily beats the weaker ones, but characters like Platinum S. Sage Centipede, EOC and the Pyskorochi fusion would be an interesting matchup.
Honestly, I think the only OPM characters besides Saitama that could tump Luffy would be Boros, Blast, Cosmic Garou (both before and after copying serious Saitama) and God. I think Luffy would defeat everyone else. Someone like Psykorochi or Sage Centipede who relies on physcial strenght and energy beam attacks that seems to be able to split massive landmasses but not destroy planets or anything like that seem similar to Kaido to me, and Kaido took a massive L against G5 Luffy. Though I will admit that I think Platinum Sperm would pose a problem because of his speed (but he would probably not be able to hurt Luffy) and Evil Natural Ocean would similarly not be able to hurt Luffy but would admitadly be difficult for Luffy to actually kill (the girl did survive a SERIOUS punch from Saitama after all, a feat not always fully aknowledged).
@@rattisEvil natural water is a sea form who's a type of devil fruit weaknesses. By that logic there's no chance of op verse take this win.
like that other comment said with evil natural water could definetly beat luffy i also think tatsumaki could beat him too, being able to launch him into the ocean or space before he can react, luffy has mftl as a reaction speed but other characters like platinum sperm are just way too fast for luffy to live a second against them. same with flashy flash and even monster form garou. they just outspeed him by a lot more not to mention how psykorochi cut a section of the earth off and proceeds to use that same attack many more times i dont think luffy could beat that. even if he could survive it, it would launch him into space. speed is a factor that im not sure you have a grasp of from reacting to it and RUNNING faster then it. @@rattis
@@StarlightAnya-_- it isn't the sea. Luffy can bath even though the water came from the sea. Evil natural oceaan is a creature.
@@charmelos1431 nope even the name say he is a ocean form or sea water. (It's like your logic aokiji ain't a frozen too cuzz he is a creature.)
I have this one friend who's a huge One Piece fan who really thinks Luffy solos all of fiction. Luffy isn't even touching Saitama even with Gear 5.
Or kumagawa
Does not fucking matter yes saitama does win the Luffy has to toon force this my last time saying it y'all keep denying it all y'all want don't care
@@B-17flyingfortres bro don't bring kumagawa,he's already beyond outerversal,he's beyond overkill
Its always people that have only watch one of the 2 series. Their opionion is worth absolutely nothing
Bro Luffy would still loose with Gear 1 billion
Saitama kicked a portal out of the way, serious table flip literally shattering the moon they were fighting on so that he could “match Garou’s martial arts.” Serious table flip had shattered the moon and the debris created from the force of the flip made 1000’s, possibly millions of little platforms that Saitama moved so fast on, that in an instant looked as if he had jumped across all the debris of the moon. It looked like multiple attacks were coming from Saitama at the same time as if there were multiples of him who were coming at all angles. He punched Garou so hard that the energy created from the punch blew a substantial hole in the universe. As in you can’t even see the light reflected by the stars any longer, because they aren’t there, they’re gone.
During the fight Garou is matching Saitama blow for blow by copying him, and as he does so he notices that Saitama power continues growing at a faster rate than his copy ability can even keep up with. Aka you cannot fight Saitama for long, because he’s constantly growing at an exponential rate.
Saitama sneezes the gas off of Jupiter revealing the core of the planet.
And if all of that wasn’t enough, his reverse causality punch takes the cake. Because of Saitama’s ability to time travel, which he learned and mastered in seconds by the way, he punched Garou right before he started his fight with the hero associates. Saitama wasn’t technically in that universe yet, but Garou got hit punch that in his world so therefore, Garou got hit by a punch that wasn’t even thrown.
Good luck Luffy!
*punched him self
And Jupiter's mass is so dense that it can hold the mass of multiple earths
@@bxhk Thanks for the correction!
@@bxhk ?
Who "punched himself"?
@@maniwishihadthelongestname7641not muiltiple it’s way more then a thousand I believe
I feel like Saitama is not just strong and fast, he also have a resistance to hax and form of toon force, he has a lot to show us
Bro he's mftl and galaxy level low ball that's a lot better than luffy
@@rterrell641 Nah he ain't galaxy level *_yet_* but he's definitely solar system level or close to it.
@@concept5631 imagine if saitama gets insanely serious one day
@@thepersonwhoasked8578 We already saw him get serious. It resulted in entire star systems being erased.
@@concept5631 he destroyed half of the universe,how is he not even galaxy level? stop being bias dude
Good to see you're using Comic Girl's OPM threads for your feats. She's probably the most knowledgable person on the web when it comes to One Punch Man. As for the matchup, it would be super cool to see current Puri Puri Prisoner vs human form Amai Mask.
The human form of Amai Mask can easily win even against Puri Puri Prisoner in the Manga
He can easily survive against one of Fuhrer Ugly's Strongest attacks while having PTSD
That attack can match Darkshine's Full strength he is also able to match Spiral Garou's full strength which is at least large mountain - Large Island level A.P
Puri Puri Prisoner's best feat for now is
One-shot a Demon-level threat stronger than Deep Sea King which is Mountain-level A.P
Tanking Nyan casual Attacks easily which is City Level A.P
And able to keep up while chasing him which is a Relativistic speed feat
Compared to the Human form Amai Mask can easily knockout
Dos S that even Atomic Samurai Disciple is having a hard time dealing with
Who can deflect Homeless Emperor multiple Energy Blast
Which is at least enough to one-shot Some Demon level of threat
And a Large City level A.P each
As it was able to knock down Vomited Fuhrer Ugly
Human Form Amai Mask can also at least escape from Fuhrer Ugly base form in the monster association base for some time as he was able to call Tatsumaki about the Narinkis Squad
And to ask for help for Tatsumaki
Fuhrer Ugly Base form is so fast that every movement can leave a light trail
He was able to also match Darkshine's speed to save Iaian from the evil Natural Water laser jet that was almost as fast as light
Even Atomic Samurai can barely dodge and an A-Class hero that can move faster than sound can't react to dodge
If he was able to escape from him even after having PTSD that means he is fast as light in his Human Form
Conclusion:
Puri Puri Prisoner:
A.P: Mountain level
Speed: Relativistic level
Durability: At least Mountain level
Hax: Regeneration and Transformation with default capabilities
Mask Human Form
A.P: Large Mountain level
Speed:Nearly fast as light or even fast as light
Durability: Large Mountain level
Hax: extreme regeneration like Amai mask but slower, Transformation and killing intent for Stats boost
@@Trolololol123 Puri Puri tanked an attack from Cadre and Spiral Garou on mamga. Manga Amai didn't. He was one shot by Fuhrer. You can't scale to webcomic, it's different continuities. Also, PPP regenerates much faster. Nyan's attack healed in seconds. Amai was healing from Fuhrer's attacks for like 20 chapters.
@@mitromneyPuri Puri Prisoner did only tanked a Casual Attack from Nyan
Nyan was sleepy when he attacked him
Nyan only escaped since he didn't want to play, especially with the weak
Fuhrer Ugly did a one-shot Amai Mask but it was the same attack he used against the full strength of Darkshine which ended up being equal
This means That attack can also one-shot Puri Puri Prisoner
Amai Mask underground was tanking other attacks of Fuhrer Ugly
And Amai Mask got split in half that's why his regeneration takes time unlike Puri Puri Prisoner which is only a simple scratch that even other Weak heroes survived
Also, Amai Mask is confident of killing every s class hero except Blast and Tatsumaki even though he knows all their skills
While Puri Puri Prisoner knows that he is the weakest of S-class heroes even weaker than Tank Top Master
I'm a huge one piece fan but I admit that this is an obvious one sided massacre for saitama
Keep in mind that Saitama got so strong he sneezed apart Jupiter after a couple seconds of fighting maybe even less because they are moving faster than light so the fight didn’t even last that long it was basically instant if you don’t count the talking and he got THAT strong he is the definition of broken also that galaxy feat was literally before he got that strong so you tell me what that means 💀
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Mumen Rider destroys that fodder, no video needed
@@CarlosMartinez-gm4qqThat cracked me up, nice joke
@@J0e423 What makes you think he's joking. 😂
You can throw every single being in one piss at saitama, and he walks away unscathed. Next
Goku🥲
@@src-16 Haha where is he right now? He can stay chained. Next!
@@Jesko. Goku slams
@@src-16 Saitama fodderizes goku with one finger kiddo. Get that fodder outta here.
@@Jesko. Pff get him past yamcha first😂😂
Luffy uses Future Sight*
Luffy: Understandable. Have a great day.
It's hard to tell if the description of Luffy's fruit is exagerated or not, saying the only limit is his imagination makes it sound like the strongest ability in all of fiction, but in practise he still took a lot of time to beat Kaido, so it's pretty hard to tell.
luffy is braindead so his fruit sucks cuz of that
its low tier toon force so he cant imagine killing something and doing it and other strong stuff like that
I don't think there's a such thing as "low tier toon force", It's possible that he didn't want to end the fight instantly and just thought of ways to have fun during it, afterall the only limit is (supposed to be) his imagination.@@joshualanghorst3972
The reason is because Luffy doesn't actually know any of that. Only the readers are aware of that statement. He doesn't know what fruit he has or the true power it wields. He was just fumbling around with his fruit trying things out at random.
I think they meant that his ACTIONS are limited by imagination, not actually just imagining something and it appearing out of nowhere.
People gotta remember that Luffy is not toonforce.
He is just applying his rubber properties to the environment like other awakened characters (with the addition of conquerers haki which allows him to have a stronger awakening).
As for the goofy expressions that everyone has, lets not forget that One Piece always had goofy characters with goofy expressions even at the start of the manga (with their jaws dropping down like crazy or their eyes popping out), so its nothing exclusive or new to gear 5.
So this is a mismatch. As luffy is still following the rules of his series. Saitama's power is to break logic/rules with his brute strength plus he can't be physically damaged from what we know, so it's a pointless match-up.
Now Saitama definitely slaughters, but Luffy literally is too force lmao
He is toon force
Go and read luffy vs lucci you fool
Luffy absolutely is Toon Force you don't understand his powers at all.
Yep even if he has toon force its just turning everything to rubber which gives his somewhat accessed to toon force physics but thats it lol Saitama one punch fart can destroy earth while he will die due to no oxygen
@@virtualmartini no, we do, it isnt toon force
Honestly one piece scalers make me madd. Idc what feats luffy has, he is not greatly faster than light. If that was true, kizaru would be super slow but his whole identity is being super fast. When oda shows luffy dodging a laser he doesnt intend to show that he surpassed the speed of light, he just wants to show he was much faster than *before*. And i wouldnt even say that whitebeard has the power to destroy the planet. And luffy hasnt shown any feats where he can destorys a whole island let alone the planet
He might be faster than light
I can't really tell
But if you watch the anime from the beginning to the current arc
Yeah he might
I think at best, he can make small movements around the speed of light, but not much else
Saitama has never once shown his max power and we can already see him sneezing away Jupiter 💀🙏
Saitama also grew multiple times stronger since that part of the fight where garou and him created that huge void which alot of people forget to mention whilst scaling him.
yeah its such an op feat that im surprised not many people mention about it
@@hewardthediamond2997 or maybe they just dont want to talk about it
Luffy : took him a whole year and a half just to learn the basics of haki and he had a teacher
Saitama: becomes a better haki master than Shanks and Roger combined just by mimicking Luffy
People have to realise that all of Saitama's feats have been effortless on his part. He has never broken a sweat or had any signs of being wounded in any way.
Imagine saitama with haki. *2x damage boost*
💀start running
@@GhostWithAGun69 **teleports in front of you*
do y’all think he’d have conquerors haki or nah
@@Shoyura. 2 answers No and Yes as Saitama has broken laws of physics but he must have to be reborn to get a chance at least.
@@Quasar126 💀I'll die
the way he says popeye is a crime against humanity 8:00
8:11
@@Andrew-kj8hf 💀 aint no way
@@MinorityHunterRoronoaZoro741 😤 GET HIMMMM!!!!!!
how is this even a debate
Naruto slams Saitama
@@DarkTemple34 yeah, in your dreams
@@certifiedfan1838 We can debate it and you’d lose
@@DarkTemple34 bet whatchu got?
@@certifiedfan1838 Naruto adult So6PSM
This matchup is not even close saitama is galaxy level gear 5 Luffy is planetary at best
gear 5 planetary is a huge stretch but ok hes continental lvl at best
@@mrmcmuffinjamjames3410It’s nowhere near close to planetary cause lebrobro luffy still has no clue how ideo how his fruit even works
? i didnt say he was planetary i was saying he wasnt close to planetary @@ohlordohgoddadgotthebeltou2119
luffy wasnt even able to destroy wano how is he planetary?
@@joshualanghorst3972he wasn’t trying to destroy wano. It was collateral damage
Saitama’s fart solos the one piece universe
He farted faster than the speed of light
Him being stronger than tatsumaki prelimit break is crazy asf
Gear 5th is hyped up a lot but it isn't crazy enough
Maybe when we see more from it
Even if we see more of gear 5 it's literally not possible to compare with Saitama.. One piece is simply just a weaker verse compared to opm
Saitama has double the toon force of Luffy.
- Farting to cross half the solar system (MTFL)
- Sneezing away Jupiter
- Learning to time-travel in minutes
- Skull-crushing black holes
- Grabbing and kicking cracks in space
- Damaging a spiritual dimension by punching
- Moving hyperspace gates
And he is supposedly just a normal dude with super strength.
So the logic is literally "I can imagine him winning so he wins every fight." Thrilling writing, to be sure.
True, i don't know why One Punch Man is written like that, he can just one shot everything, not exactly a story worth reading lol.
@@AnIndividualinParizznot worth reading but still bother to comment just to show your saltiness...
@tykothamby5474 genuinely that is how one punch man I'd written tho. It is a gag manga, whatever situation he is win he will pull through no matter what. Not salty about the loss, it was very clear, just thought he was talking about saitama.
Lol, Luffy claps all anime verses. He can do anything with his will. He is literally a god with no weakness. Sea won't work on him because he can erase sea because he can manipulate reality. Do you think character like Saitama, Goku , stands chance against him? Lol.
:~ this what one piece fans are thinking 😂😂 not me
Lol yah....... Saitama is way op man they just have to take an "L" on this one debate.
Not exactly, the only people who think like this are the fans of one pumch man, which is fair due to the feats that saitama has. One piece fans are happy enough to watch peak in peace.
I dont think this is a matchup anyone asked for, these two are on totally different levels and it would be more respectful to each character to not put them against each other. A better matchup for Luffy would be against The Mask. and a better matchup or saitama would be either a fellow gag character like Deadpool, OR such an overwhelmingly powerful fictional character like Goku, superman, or Genji
Finally a "not even close" video that's actually not even close
Imo these are some of the best power scaling videos I’ve ever seen… I’ve been binge watching basically everything.
saitama - Multi GALAXY level
luffy - Planetary end of story
*Multi-Galaxy at beginning of fight BEFORE exponential growth, meaning he's so much stronger
EDIT!: I'm not being rude or condescending, I just wanted to point that out since I've seen a lot of people forget it
I beg to differ
saitama's best feats are solar system level
luffy's best feats are island-country level
@@vinasaile9920he is not near to universal though so he is high multi galaxy
@@Dense_Osmium he obliterated millions of stars, if not billions with the collision of a simple serious punch...at the START of his fight with Garou. Over the course of that fight, he became at least 1000x stronger...
@@kbxbrdrI don't think it's safe to assume that Saitama destroyed any stars during his fight against Garou. It's more plausible he just annihilated the photons coming in the direction of the deflected energy, from the collision of the two serious punches...
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Luffy is on the level of a city or a country, at his best, he destroyed Onigashima, which is the size of the city, and imo which is capable of destroying islands the size of countries. It is considered in the world of One Piece something beyond imagination, so I believe that Luffy is on the level of a city or a country, and Saitama destroyed millions of stars at the beginning of the fight against Garou. I think he is on a galaxy level and at the end of the fight against garou he is on a completely different level so it's not close. Sorry for the misspellings
Even dressrosa Luffy has continental or higher feats wdym
@@Perfection-given-formbe realistic. Calcs don‘t mean shit
I’d say Luffy is continental
@@Perfection-given-form Deris Rose is 757 miles in size and the state of Ohio in our world is 44,825 square miles in size, and if we say Luffy with his final blow is capable of destroying Deris Rosa, it is not even at the level of a state.
@@mryamete6029 don chinjao in his prime was able to split an ice continent, this ice was so hard that literal steel axes and flamethrowers from multiple people couldn’t even dent it, and in the anime (sub, before you say it’s just classic dubism) there was additional context that they wouldn’t even dent it if they tried for 100 years, so this ice is very durable. Why am I telling you this? Especially since the old chinjao we saw in dressrosa was specifically shown not to be able to do this? Well after old chinjao’s fight with luffy (and his head got fixed) he fought against his grandson sai, who was able to break his head again, and it was then stated AND I QUOTE “I have seen that your foot is powerful enough to split the continent of ice”
This means that every character that scales above sai is atleast continental, and I don’t think I need to tell you that g4 boundman luffy in his fight with doffy is stronger than sai bc sai is kinda fodder.
Luffy: *punches saitama with gear five*
Saitama: are you robbing me?
Saitama: *Obliterates luffy with a single punch*
You do have to remember that Luffy is a moron and has only just discovered Gear Fifth, so the idea of him being able to bend reality is still plausible given what the Gorosei state. Not that I'm trying to defend people saying Luffy can win this fight, but just saying, much like Saitama as well, we have NO IDEA of the full potential of these characters powers. For all we know, by the end of each respective manga, each character could be literally multiversal in power, but we won't know until those manga reach their conclusions.
I am definitely expecting Luffy to reach a point of breaking the 4th wall at some point in the story using gear fifth and Saitama being at least multiversal in strength.
This so the Luffy fanboys learn some manners
Whatever you say brother, its true that saitama slams though.
Saitama with hair vs monster garou would probably be a good matchup
Saitama gets immensly stronger the more powerful opponent damages him, the fight wouldve ended the same way
@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11 Saitama with hair doesn’t grow as fast as bald saitama. Even so, monster garou grows in power also
@@oremor6412 you realize people are born with their power, they dont just get it, saitama only started to train after killing the crab monster, his superpower was already there, he just had to use it
@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11 Saitama was just a regular dude before he started training. He only beat the crab monster through strategy
@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11 saitama and monster garou grow in power when they are pushed to the limit. Bald saitama has no limit to how far he can grow in power so he grows way faster than everyone else
Saitama sneezes away planets and kicks portals for fun, enough said
Aside from the top tiers of One Punch Man, I like how close the power levels are between the OPM verse and the One Piece verse.
I’d like to issue a fact correction about Kizaru. He can travel at light soeed and whatnot. But he can only maintain his original trajectory unless her refracts to a new one. It’s not effective for travel which is probably why he travels by ship.
Let's say Luffy is somehow able to resist Saitama punch. He could just destroy earth, depriving the oxygen. Saitama can also use reversal of causality. This dude is also able to grab hyperspace gate
Luffy can’t even beat tatsumaki
tatsumaki is really strong in the opm verse but you do you
@@echolow5928 i said in the verse ☠ goku still solos tho
Luffy in gear 5 wouldn't even be able to beat Nappa from DBZ let alone current DBS Goku. Not all characters need to be compared, they can be cool and strong on their own in their own universe.
Nope... Nappa easily lose against Luffy Gear 2...
@@tykothamby5474lool
Yeah, Nappa still loses easy, I don't know what you are smoking to think that a bald dude could beat a man who could just crush him into a ball and dunk him. 💀
Finally someone made a video about this! Tiktok opinion on this topic is interesting 😅
A man who holds whole galaxies in his right fist and a man who watched to much looney toons is not even debatable 😂
A man who lost his hair due to working to hard vs the next pirate king and sun god. Sadly, caped baldy completely obliterates him.
One piece fan has become the new dragon ball fans
Cap, we are nowhere near that bad yet. Only a minority of annoying power scalers are like that.
Why do one piece fans think planets are bigger than millions of galaxy's
When did Saitama destroy millions of galaxies? Last I checked, the stars he destroyed or pushed away, could be seen with the naked eye from Earth, which means that they were within the Milky Way galaxy.
Saitama is Multi-Solar System level, not Galaxy level, and definitely not Universal.
@@Aelda69btw reason they say Galaxy is because it went outside of the ARE Galaxy so it could have destroyed another galaxy also more evidence there's no light behind it so we wouldn't know if he did or not but he definitely not multi solar
@@Aelda69more like a multi Galaxy
@@Aelda69and the last time I checked that probably could have that probably could have destroyed the solar system ngl
@@just-existing845
If the stars could be seen with the naked eye by characters in the OPM-verse, then they were within the Milky Way.
How is Saitama Multi-Galaxy level, but couldn't destroy the Milky Way? Because he is Multi-Star to Multi-Solar System level, and that is with Garou's help, since this was a Serious Punch², meaning that it was the result of Garou's and Saitama's strength, not just Saitama's.
This would actually make his feat even less impressive. Now, could Saitama destroy a solar system by himself? Sure. With enough time. But, he cannot do it in one punch, at least not by himself.
but but but luffy can warp reality in Gear5
Saitama can sneeze and destroy jupiter
@@cabralruel1037 butt butt luffy gear 5 break internet so he must be stronger
umm... ok
Kinda yapping, but saitama solos big L.
@@AnIndividualinParizz ik dude
Basically a strongest character with the worst weakness (ocean) vs the Strongest character with the worst weakness (grocery discount)
People need to understand that: famous = powerful.
Bruh Luffy manipulating reality for island level threats 😂😂😂😂. This isn't close Luffy dies to one finger
Luffy is around multi contient
Saitama could just use his hand as a sword to make a supersonic air slash to cut Luffy. Like Zoro’s no sword style.
Luffy is not true toon force, if he was he would've killed Kaido instantly, would never take damage, bla bla bla, Saitama one shots
"Luffy wouldn't be gurt cuz he's made of rubber" that doesn't make him immune to blunt attacks. There is always a limit to how much force a material can withstand.
On the subject of op and opm,I'm pretty sure in universe king(the opm s class) would probably possess ridiculously huge amounts of conquers,given how he can strike fear into almost everything or in some cases kill with it,a feat not even shanks is capable of
Saitama>>>>>> anime, Marvel and Dc
No just no
He ain't even the top 10 in anime.
There is no way luff have a chance to defeat saitama like even genos could defeat luffy
Alright now thats debatable. Genos is freaking fast and explosive but Gear 5 Luffy is using supreme haki to the extreme and can just reshape his body, environment and even his opponent into rubber. Genos would have a hard time evaluating whats going on and the instant he gets distracted its over
Luffy claps genos with haki though
Iron is fodder
8:16 That's because Luffy doesn't know his actual ability yet. Though I am in *NO WAY* trying to deny Saitama's win. You don't need to calculate to know Saitama wins, and I know very well that Saitama solos all of my favourite verses. One Piece IS my favourite anime.
It's not even by soloing verses
One piece is the best anime not your favorite
Opm has no good story line or plot
It's just a gag anime
It can be compared to attack on titan not to talk of one piece
Dragon ball and opm are trash animfams are trying to defend their anime by powerscaling
@@nosaidemudia7020wot?
Saitama: [breathes]
God: There goes the sun
Saitama removing his limiter makes completely and absolutely limitless in any facet ot existence. The only Limit is how much he cares aka how much effort he is willing to put into a fight.
garou stated that saitama can copy all God s techniques so it's true
Saitama isn't boundless. Not even close
@@jaffil4026 source
@@jaffil4026we’ve learned from the cosmic fear garou vs saitama battle that if saitama was to face an opponent stronger or equal to himself he would just keep growing stronger exponentially and limitlessly to outmatch his opponent, thus making him completely unbeatable.
@@yeetboi4877 other than if he gets instantly killed. He can still get heavily out stated and killed before he has time to grow.
Anytime anyone says that some character can beat Saitama, it just proves they don't understand the definition of the character. Saitama is (by definition) unbeatable and can always win in a single punch if he's motivated enough. Saitama is like infinity while every other character is like a number. It doesn't matter how big the number is, it's still the same as 0 to infinity.
There are way crazier characters than Saitama, but if you are comparing him to one piece then yes he is drastically above that whole world. But there is a vast list of characters outside of one punch man that defeat Saitama very easily.
@@tacoshop7722 That just proves you don’t understand how Saitama is written as a character. It is a character trait of his that he is unbeatable and will always win no matter what. If you name some character that has accomplished feats far beyond anything Saitama has ever shown in OPM, when that character faced Saitama, Saitama would just “try a little harder” and instantly surpass the character in a comedic way. That’s how Saitama works. He literally cannot lose.
@@danielbrown001 there are so many characters with that same exact trait, and it is even debatable if that even is Saitama’s trait. And anyone who has destroyed more than 100 stars- galaxy level of damage has out-shown Saitama. “ The rising” to the occasion trope is not unique or even particularly strong applied to Saitama, he actually doesn’t really get all that strong in comparison to his contemporaries. He is still less impressive than goku, Saint Seiya, Simone, and maybe even Toriko (depending how you scale the ending battle). And that is just other Shonen (not even mentioning Novels or Comics).
What makes Saitama so impressive? I feel like you don’t understand the character or do not read/watch many others works. His best feat of strength is destroying maybe a few hundred stars.
theres a limit to how much luffy can stretch and how much dmg he can negate from something without haki. one punch from saitama would reach that limit and beyond. he wouldnt even need haki.
Luffy has no limit luffy can stretch infinitely this what stated about him in gear 5 he has cartoon rubber hose so he still has no limit
@@firefistace5230 he cannot stretch infinitely, that was never stated in anything official, at least not that I’ve seen. We were told in an sbs he has a limit of 500 (or something similar) gomu gomus, a make believe unit. Regardless of the unit, a limit has been established. Gear 5 doesn’t let him stretch infinitely, it just alters the world and adds to his stretching ability.
@@isaacshadow100 luffy stated to stretch infinitely read the vivre cards
@@isaacshadow100 500 gomu gomu nos is a joke
I can’t believe you fell for that that not a limit
@@firefistace5230 the joke is that the unit of measurement is fictional, so it doesn’t tell us the specifics of his actual limit. Regardless of that, he for sure has a limit to how much he can stretch. Even in the context of his fruit, it wouldn’t make sense for him to be able to stretch infinitely given that his body is finite. And we’ve seen before that he has a limit during alabasta, where he almost tore off his limbs trying to escape from some form of containment (i forgot what it was). His awakening just enhances the powers of his fruit and allows it to manipulate his environment, but it doesn’t let him transcend into infinity on any level, and hes never been shown to.
Why is this even a discussion? Luffy’s feats don’t even compare to 1% of saitama’s feats
The Serious Punch ² did not destroy galaxies or Stars btw.
It just caused something called a Gravitational Lense. It's still hella impressive but they did not destroy Galaxies with that Attack. Otherwise any of their follow up attacks (which where stronger then that punch) would have obliterated the Solar System.
still no context of what really happened or confirmed, that's why i stuck to saitama being multi solar instead
Pretty good video. One mistake though. It was never stated that Saitama's strength grows according to the character he fights. It was only mentioned that Saitama grows continuously, with the growth becoming exponential whenever he has a surge of emotion
When he fights
I meant depends on who would push him
@@user-kl6pe4ns2u the exponential growth is not when he fights
@@YacineScales Alright 👍
Basically how saitama's power works is that the more damage he takes, the more powerful he becomes, thats how he got strong in pre-training, cuz he was pushing his body so hard that he was hurting himself
Let’s be honest, this is not true
Every time he fights he says I’ll kick your ass and now he has gear 5 so it will be true, all though saitama is strong. When he learns haki, remember there’s 3 kinds and observations 1 of them. It needs practice. He can dodge, but doesn’t mean he sees the future. Punching Luffy, Luffy dodged cuz he see future. When saitama dodges Luffy sees where he dodged and can do another attack he doesnt know. saitama when he punches luffy and hr doesnt dodge luffy flies back but stops in mid air. physics and imagination . remember haki also needs training . even if you learn it, its still weak. but saitama can get in faster by 10x but Luffy goes gear 2 with normal haki and punches saitama with fire punch. Saitama dodges but then like I said Luffy does another attack he wouldn’t notice. Saitama does the big boy punch and luffy blast away but he remembers ace dying cuz of his fails so Luffy goes all out and combined all haki in one punch. Copying saitama and kills him.
Saitama survived a blast that would have destroyed the entire world without any serious scratches.
Name me a chapter were Luffy was above island level.
I can’t really say any cuz never happened. And the only time it happened was a weak one, still doesn’t change the fact about luffys awakening that’s kills saitama
@@Mr.Jayden. I thought you might be trolling but you're actually serious?
And yes, that did happened. Do you even read the manga?
@@Shigeru0508 I’m just too much of a one piece fan and I’m too stubborn 😭
But real opinion:
Luffy would keep up a good fight till gear 5 runs out and he gets too tired and saitama kills him. But if Luffy does do everything I said before gear 5 is out, Luffy would keep a good fight and it would be saitama wins with Luffy not dead but worse than stabbing yourself 20 times and living but with many conditions. Worse than that
@@Mr.Jayden.brooo enough with the crack 😂. Luffy is nothing in front of saitama.
Saitama has his own toon force ffs, remember when Garo threw a hyperspace portal at him? Saitama casually kicked it away, just like toon characters.
saitama doesn't have toon force 🤡🤡 go watch a video about what toon force is before saying a character has toonforce
characters cant just have partial toon force, like when cartoon characters always have 100% toon force, it doesnt go half way, characters that appear to have toon force just do so with their own unique property to appear as if it was toon force
was a mistranslation the correct one is sub space aka a portal of 2 or 1 dimensions
@@BlackJack32. i dont have a clue what your talking about
@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11
So? Do you agree with me or not?
Also saitama's squirt lava gun attack, serious sneeze, and FTL fart also mirror toon character powers.
No way this is an actual argument one piece fans need to sit down
Gear 5 Luffy: will adjust reality
Saitama: reality adjusts to him
I agree with the comments somewhat and am siding with Saitama STRONGLY for obvious reasons, but chill, stop throwing shade at One Piece - the animanga. There are plenty of fans of it you can throw it to instead!
Facts, the actual manga and anime are fire, just make fun of the delusional fans that think luffy can literally bend reality, we haven't even seen his limit, but at most he can make anything he touches rubber.
his galaxies level attack was also before he grew 8 times stronger during the same fight
Yeah a lot of people have already disproven that, that was galactic level. It was only multi solar system, so near the end of the fight he would be at max high galactic.
@@Musashi337 Galactic level is still possible I mean
@@Gremlin969 Nah it is. I'd say that he is at max galactic. But no one actually fully knows what the trigger for his growth is, I think it is intense emotion, but yk. I'm meaning how he grew in strength during the garou fight, I already know how he broke his limiter (spoiler, dying multiple times)
@@Musashi337
Hes infinite actually, being galaxy level means you're having a proportional limit of strength on a galactic scale, saitama's limit isn't at galaxy at most since his feat in question is from his self before growth and the limiter theory goes against it of having him not bounded in growth in the first place, his growth being depicted to be in a tan 90 angle shows that if he gets pushed far enough he'd start to get to the realm of infinity, Saitama just had nobody to push him thatswhy against a multi galaxy lvl threat his power only adapted him to that far, he has no limit to his potential so if he finds someone even stronger who pushes him farther he'd transcend even spacetime as an entirety as Genos stated and transcend causality if he has to.
@@Gremlin969 No Cosmic Fear Garou was only a tiny bit stronger then him, and they gradually grew together throughout the fight, Saitama and Garou's punch was not Galactic feat, meaning that at the end of the fight, Saitama could be galactic could not. Also Saitama will gradually grow in strength against a stronger opponent, but not instantaneously. If he is fighting someone like Goku, even if Saitama grew at the same rate as he did fighting Garou, it would still take an incredibly long time. By the time he DOES reach the level of Goku in base, Goku will just simply go Super Saiyan, and we both know that when Goku realizes Saitama is growing he will be like "Ok I gotten beat him quick" and he will defeat him in an instant. Also Saitama's physical attributes are not infinite, his potential is, because if he really did have "infinite" strength, he would not have to need to grow AT ALL. Saitama would only grow to heights like universal, if he fights an incompetent idiot who spends more time talking instead of fighting, OR if he fights someone with the same growth rate as him, like a clone. Saitama does not solo fiction, but he has the POTENTIAL too. So take that as you will. Don't try to debate me on that, idrc, at the end of the day these characters don't exist, and neither Saitama nor Goku, are even in top 500-250 strongest characters in fiction anyways.
as of rn luffy has basically no toon force because he still believes his fruit is only rubber but my guess is by the end of one piece hell have full control of toon force and be unstoppable
It has be stated that imagination thing or whatever it's all related related rubber meaning he csn freely move change how his rubber works easily then his other gear
who thought this was close, saitamas sneeze he used vs garou destroys the op planet 185 times over
Saitama is not actually a "gag" character, he's just seems like a gag.
Saitama solos the entire OP verse except for Buggy, who wins due to a series of comedic misunderstandings.
Nah he soloing it easily
Go D. Usopp would be a match for saitama
Buggy will probably cap his way out of fighting saitama and somehow become either the head of the hero organization or the leader of the monster association.
i would disagree on him not having reality warping since we saw luffy create something from his hair its a small feat but hints that he can do more if he aware of the truth of his devil fruit he still thinks he ate the rubber fruit so we can't say he doesn't have toon force because so far we only saw him fight twice until he fight someone like bb to see his true power saitama wins
Yeah too many people don't seem to understand his mental block of still thinking it's a rubber fruit. He will learn the truth then gear 5 will be full toon force power.
Bruh luffy doesn’t have reality warping
@@homomagii no he has he made a classes from his hair it's a small feat but because he's still unaware that his devil fruit is a zoan with imagination power he still thinks he's a rubber man which means we haven't seen his df true power yet but there will definitely be reality warping ones he become aware of his power
aaaand hes still saitama victim
@@hauntedgraveman i even forgot who was fighting lol 😆
If loofy's island busting hits means he's planetary, them saitama's square punch means he's universal
I don't think one piece characters are ftl as you said they have observation haki which lets them see into the feature, so the laser dodging was probably from the observation haki. Also, if you argue its pts observation haki still existed pts but it was never named until amazon lily (i think).
I don't get why people are debating this? They're comparing rubber to a guy who could destroy galaxies?🤨
Just a small little note. Kizaru doesn't use his fruit for travel simply for the fun of it. It's another quick oda gave to a masivly overpowered DF to make it a little less OP. Another example of OP fruits not being used to their full power 24/7 is foxy and the...slow slow fruit, is it? Not sure of the name. But, Putting Luffy, or anyone from One Piece against most top tiers in One Punch is wild. Poor luffy getting beat up bro.
About the speed thing, you can guess when he fires, and dodge before they fire, thereby dodging the attack. In real life this happens when for example secret service jumps before and drags a president to the side, when shot at. They manage to get between the president and take the bullet, but it isn’t because they are faster than a bullet.
Galaxy buster vs rubber boi? Seems like a fair matchup
Saitama touched a fucking PORTAL a literal portal and threw it like it was a mcdonalds wrapper
Love your videos, cant belive you only have 8k
Id love to see what saitama does when Usopp rolls up
That saitama and phonenix man chapter was wild xd