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Unfortunately, I just don’t see these cards as a true store of value. Sure, there may be a handful of rare, nearly unobtainable cards that hold significant worth, but for the average collector, that’s just not the case. From the start, you need at least a 10% gain in value just to break even after selling fees, which makes it a tough investment. It’s hard to justify keeping them purely for nostalgia given the cost. Personally, as a big Joe Montana fan growing up, I always wanted his rookie card. I could afford the highest-graded version, but realistically, that money is better off in an index fund for the future. Instead, I settled for a nice-looking lower-grade copy to satisfy my nostalgic itch. For most of us, sports cards are more of an expensive hobby than a reliable investment-often one where you can’t even recoup your money. And of course, there’s the gambling aspect, but that’s a whole different discussion. Keep up the great work with your videos!
10:52 is exactly what your doing. Last time I check TB12 still has 7 SB Titles and holds the Tiebreakers beating Mahomes in Super Bowl and is 2-0 vs Mahomes in the playoffs. Mahomes has chance to do the 3 peat something TB12 has never done. It will be a MJ vs Lebron Conversation and as long as you in the conversation your cards will always hold value. *****RIGHT NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO BUY TB12 CARDS, NOT SELL*********
At this point he probably has 6 figures wrapped up in cards and a wife that he has to justify his purchases to. It's probably hard to justify the 10k he spent on random Brady cards since they're all going down. That's why he's overthinking. If he woulda stuck with rookies and autographs, I don't think he'd be having this issue.
If we as collectors think that Brady's value will "Go to $0" just because Mahomes may do some things Brady didn't, then that's a rough commentary on the card market as a whole (i.e. only value in one QB). Also, keep in mind that if Brady continues to improve as an analyst, and/or has success as part owner of the Raiders, there will be an element of "wow this guy wins at every level" and collectibility may actually increase with Brady. The sky is definitely not falling.
I'm not following football these days, but I am wondering if the Chiefs are even getting a fraction of the talk of "Brady had Belichick" or in this case "Mahomes had Reid"? Brady winning that title in Tampa made him the current GOAT. Mahomes could get injured as he ages, anything is possible.
Two comments for you. Number one it's good for Patrick mahomes to win the super bowl so that there is debate amongst hobby card collectors. Number two. Don't buy shiny stuff. Only buy the most iconic best cards of the best players if you want value long term (Brady's contenders rookie Auto would be in the iconic category).
Agree with contenders but don't agree on shiny stuff. I'd much rather own Brady's 2002 finest refractor #'d to 250 than his Bowman chrome RC that has been graded over 10k times.
@@802Projects You could be right, if they reach another generation like the rare Jordan inserts did, we will know for sure in the future. But until then, I'm sticking with what is most liquid for the sake of long-term value.
Interesting that while NFL is the most popular sport in USA, where card collecting is part of the culture, the NFL greats other than the GOAT don’t get any hobby love. Seems like the new prospects is where most of the hobby interest is and everything else is kinda whatever. While with NBA there are guys like Iverson, Tmac, even Derrick Rose that are highly collected, but they are no where near GOAT status, not even a discussion..
IF Brady's value is diminishing then I know I don;t want to collect any football cards unless it would be a short term hold and a quick flip. I agree that the NFL isn't what it used to be...and it's going to get worse. Once they are playing "two hand touch" or flag football the new generation of kids will have no interest in collecting players from the "old days". I never imagine, as a Bears fan, that Devin Hester's job would be made obsolete. Less than 2 decades later, it effectively has been. Maybe I'll start early on my pickleball collection.
Always on the lookout for nice, older, Brady stuff. Unfortunately, I do see that you run into the shilling and shadiness that occurs since so many bought in during the bubble and they're still trying to 'protect' their costs and minimize losses. However, I do think you're going to see support for whatever Topps does in the NFL like you've never seen before and it will be interesting. Football cards are an interesting thing. Once a player market is set, it really doesn't move much.... unless that move is a huge down move. The hype is priced in immediately and it just turns into people looking to dump it on whoever will pay 10% more.
I dont think tom brady should have become a nfl broadcaster.. i think he should have done what jordan done and become a private preson out of the spot light and make occasional BIG appearances… jordan did everytihng right after his career…. brady should quit broadcasting and become private with just BIG moment appearances...
Some cool Brady cards- I don't think those prizm sets are going to hold even short term 3-5 years (which is an eternity for flippers, but it's not LONG term lol. I have the Joe Montana rookies that I pack pulled when I was 11 or 12 years old, but I do think the early Brady rookies and the grails will still hold value and continue to incrementally increase over time. Too many sets, too many parallels, too much color for it to be sustainable at a good price point. Same for Mahomes- I think there will be 2-3 cards minus grails (big rpas, logo, laundry tag, shields, etc) that will keep well. Personally, I have nothing invested in Brady or Mahomes and don't plan too. I can't afford the really good cards, and anything else is just fantasy and gambling. If that was my brady collection- I would sell 9/10 cards and either upgrade to a grail level card that is less volatile, or pocket most of the money/invest tradtionally (stocks, bonds, gold, crypto whatever you fancy) and buy yourself a sick pc Breeze card with the rest.
@@TheSportsCardDad Forgettable? He turned a 20 win team into a 50 win team...they were making a playoff run then he blew out his knee...go back and watch his play he was just as fluid as he was in the 90s
Every great QB has a stumble in the middle of their career and Mahomes will probably be no different. Montana won 2 SuperBowls in 1981 and 1984 and then had major back surgery in 1985 as many thought his career was over. He didn’t win another Superbowl until 1988 season. Brady won 3 SuperBowls in 2001, 2003 and 2004. Then got that season ended injury in 2008, and didn’t win another Superbowl until 2015. What worries me about Mahomes (and Josh Allen) is they take alot of hits scrambling. That takes it toll, and opens them up to a possible major injury. What Mahomes is doing is historic, but their legacy can change in a heartbeat.
GM. Interesting Header versus the conversation. From the video, almost everything focused on 2015 Prizm to Present. I didn't see any Rookie, First, Second, or Third year Brady Cards. That was indicative of the notion, that you aren't really a Brady fan, but a younger collector that got serious during Brady's later years, as Mahomes was a young rookie, -thus the need for the compare and contrast discussion today. Here, in my collection, most of my cards are Brady's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and later cards. '..Yes, I too missed the boat, as a couple of my bit older friends have 5 00' Bowman Chrome Brady Rookie Cards, but they won't sell them, so I just worked around it, and bought all that I could find, and that worked out rather well. Hope this helps. Have a better one.. Peace!
@@garygordon3075 '...Yeah...not hatin.., but kinda sensed that from the title versus the actual discussion and only the mid 2013-2018 Prizm Cards. Personally, I don't collect Brady, but He was the principle Quarterback most collectors generally wanted while I was busy doing my own umm.. 'gathering..' ;) Personally, Dustin would hate Me, if He saw just how many Jordan Cards I figured out 15 years ago to buy, *while they were still obtainable. Again.. Just saying. '
mahomes has too much controversy. even more than Brady. What happens if/when the nfl admits games were rigged for the chiefs? it'll be too late to buy back into Brady. 😁
Brady was drafted in the 6th round 199th overall pick and went on to accomplish the things he did. That is a unique place in sports history specific to him. We will most likely never see something like that again in the NFL. I would definitely keep some Brady cards in the collection no matter what Mahomes does.
Its tough to compare players of different eras. Ie Jordan vs Russell. Its not like they ever played together. But with Brady and Mahomes; there is some overlap and Brady got the best of him. Bradys last superbowl win (on a brand new team to in his mid 40's), he ran the tables against 3 superbowl winnning teams. Both players can be recognized as great. I'm still buying Brady and likely always will be.
Joe Montana autographs (and frankly Peyton Manning and Jerry Rice ect) are obtainable for less than 100$ all day on pretty decent stuff. Either they're really undervalued or Tom is really overvalued or ... I dunno. That's probably it.
I got a johnny Unitas auto from 1999 for less than 200 and he's been dead for 20+ years, and was voted as the goat QB a few decades ago. As for r Montana, I got a leaf auto for just over 20 bucks. These insane prices aren't gonna hold when dead legends go for a fraction.
😂nothing goes to LITERALLY zero but before COVID, cards were pennies on the dollar to what they're going for now. If you don't think that can happen again, I got oceanfront property in Nebraska to sale you.
Mahomes still has a LONG way to go IMO - The 2000 Brady Press Pass is a buyer market right now as is his 2000 Bowman - If people are willing to fire sale - I am happy to buy those
Lebron is not that dude at all. Dude is paying the media to sign to klutch sports to stay relevant next to Jordan. Mahomes and Brady feels more genuine with fans and media comparing.
As a Lions fan even with the recent success they have had- I find it difficult to watch NFL. It’s not exciting to me anymore, I’m constantly looking for flags after every big play and fantasy football makes it even more unenjoyable. I really enjoy College football more than NFL
Stats in football are totally meaningless in the long run. The games, and the rules change too much, and it makes no sense to compare passing yards between Mahomes and Brady and Montana and Tarkenton and Tittle. That's why football fans don't even know the numbers of their own records the way baseball fans do. Tom Brady will likely always be remembered, but it won't be because of his personal statistical records.
Brady will always be viewed as the GOAT by many, barring Mahomes winning more rings and playing more years at a higher level...the latter of which is almost guaranteed not to happen. Lebron/Jordan is a good comp on this. Jordan is the GOAT, but Lebron has clearly had the greatest career ever. Brady will be the GOAT but barring injury, Mahomes will probably have as good of, if not better, stats when he retires. The game has just changed that much, in basketball and football.
Came to listen about the hobby and cards….got a 2 minute tangent about how salty you are about Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs and Refs. Take a moment to appreciate greatness as we’ll never see it again.
Jordan is the Goat Forever. Sold all Brady and Mahomes during Covid. The only person I collect is Josh Allen. When his cards came out, I just wanted the rookie. Have a little over 75 of them. I will continue to hold them and it's not the monetary value I care about. I mainly collect Silver Age comics. Especially ASM, X-Men, Hulk, Daredevil, Avengers and Captain America...Love Them!
No I'm a Hold On Brady and Have A what id like to think is a Good Brady Collection. Hes Stihl Gonna Get His HOF jacket and I like his Announcing Hes Bringing Back the Madden BOOOOM !!!! 😅 i Stihl have Most of my Brady Rookies.. only sold Doubles... and ive learned once... I sold a Brady Chrome Rookie when they 1st came out.. but I ended up getting a Bowman Paper Back... The Metal Rookie Is the one I like that I have the Best... think I have 7 or so... a couple Refractors and Xfractor... And a 2 row Full thats Running Over Of Top Loader Brady Cards. Some Base.. Some Insert.. Some Silver Holos Etc etc. going back to Rookies and 1st year Topps... and alot in between. BRADY IS STIHL THE GOAT 🐐 JUST LIKE JORDAN IS THE GOAT 🐐 IN BASKETBALL
You openly despise breaking but 95% of the cards you talk about you immediately talk about monetary value associated with them, no actual just awesome collectiblity of that player/card. I just find the 2 takes hypocritical is all.
Like the vast majority of hobbyists, I have PC parts of my collection (like Drew Brees), and also cards I'm speculating on. Comparing this to excessive breaking in our hobby is comparing apples to oranges
@TheSportsCardDad gambling is gambling, it's ALL gambling..breaks, prospecting, pack opening, it's all the game of chance for money. It just blows my mind so few of anyone on youtube talks about trading, Ultra modern set building...I mean how easy a topic is that with the 2024 mlb draft class, set building from that year or 2022 sets or insert sets....idk..there are good topics to be discussed without making everything about money and the transactional part. Which i am very ok with, but when I buy into breaks I'm ok with whatever team because I keep my mets, sell the cards I don't care about and set building the random stuff. But my point was your dislike for breaking but then make every other thing about money or the chance and ROI...just seems rough
@@AdultArtsAndCraftssportscards I've forever said on my channel, I have a family and not interested in spending significant money (at least for me) on single cards without taking value into account. My Bobby Hebert cards that I spend very little money on, I'm not concerned about values. There is a lot of nuance here
@@TheSportsCardDadif you don't think you've spent a significant amount on cardboard, I'm afraid of what you would think IS significant. For the bart, rdj, and star Jordan alone you probably spent 15k. 99% of people would call that amount significant.
The Chiefs have become completely unlikeable and Mahomes has been carried by his defense the last 2 years. He's great but I'm not so sure his cards will always have high value.
No chance buddy it's Brady by a country mile and it's not even close! Brady owns Kermit! Kermits first regular season loss...Brady,first playoff loss...Brady and finally his first Super Bowl loss...Brady! Nobody will catch him oh yeah over the age of 40 and a prime Kermit! 😂
For people over 30 years old, Montana will always be held in a higher regard than Brady and definitely wayyyy higher than Mahomes. That's when the NFL was pure football at it's finest. This garbage now is unwatchable
Mahomes doesn't get hit or sacked much. Hits taken over time make a difference on any quarterback. We have had awesome quarterbacks that just didn't have great protection around them.
The NFL is boring to watch, the NBA everyone says sucks right now..meanwhile the NHL has never been better or more entertaining. Watch and invest in hockey boys.
One signpost you can aim towards to NOT sell out of some Brady cards is his Hall of Fame Enshrinement in 2028. With all the QBs going in over the next few years (up until Rodgers eventual enshrinement), this Golden Era of QBs will have this annual time for celebrations.
It’s not that Tom’s prices will “go down” it’s just that once the player retires the only people buying/hunting those cards are the actual fans that want them for the most part. Jordan transcended a lot of fan bases (why he’s so widely collected) cause he was different for the time. Most fan bases passionately hated Tom. You think everyone buying Jayden Daniels right now loves Jayden Daniels or the Commanders? Highly doubt it. You said it yourself you bought Tom for an investment not cause you wanted him for the PC.
except for all the stuff that isn't zero, this is a brilliant point (and if it was framed correctly, your point that maximum value isn't a constant would be fine)
Have Jordan cards been hurt by Lebron challenging his GOAT status? I see no difference with Brady / Mahomes. Except Brady beat Mahomes head to head twice 🤷♂️
Mahomes will never get 7 super bowls because I will find him & straight “Tanya Harding” That Sonofagun lol… I’d like to say THANK YOU for your reasonable takes on everything from MJ to Mahomes sliding late (I live in Houston).. I 100% agree with everything you said… Lastly, I know MJ cards Stay Strong because has nothing else coming out, he’s not signing new cards etc etc, based on that Alone I’d sell Brady ASAP.. Also, you’re right that MJ making FEW selective appearances makes him that much more Legendary, referring back to when the top 75ish players all gathered last & MJ showed up late, Everyone froze in awe thinking or saying “That’s him, that’s really him” .. Brady is amazing but truly Apple & oranges with “GOAT Hype” & “GOAT Value”
It’s weird to me…more people endear to the Astros during and after their latest scandal. They’ll make all the excuses why life goes on but so many hate the Chiefs and more specifically Mahomes for legally taking advance of the rules.
Agreed; the NFL is putting out a terrible product to watch even though they have some of the best athletes in the world. Penalties have made the game very frustrating to watch. And unfortunately, the officials have become too much a part of the NFL product due to "player safety" and online sports betting. Plus the politics of the game are ruining it---Choose love? No crap! Think I'll choose hate today?!?! Cheers.
I respectfully disagree. If you watch other sports I actually feel that the nfl referees are probably the best at their job of any. Have you watched college or nba basketball recently…now that is hard to watch…. In fact I’ve stopped watching for the most part until March or the finals.
I really like the idea of keeping 4-5 of your favourite Brady’s 🐐… Sell off the remainder 💰 and get a couple of your “grail” cards. Thats a Win / Win scenario for you and your collection. Some awesome Brady’s. ✊
Interesting take. I am a Brady collector - started buying in around Oct-Nov 2023 through mid-2024. So I’m biased. Based on what I’ve seen - and I’ve flipped a fair amount of his cards during this same period-Brady’s prices aren’t dropping. At least for the cards I’m looking at. Think your comments (a) show too much recency bias. And (b) are conflating real world performance vs card performance. Long term my main concern is if any retired football player holds significant value - ie who is the Mantle/Ruth/Jordan of football cards? Currently there isn’t one. Jim Brown holds a bit of value but not much. Guys like Montana have limited hobby relevance/value besides a very few high grade cards. Think this is due to football being secondary to baseball during that time. But football has taken over (baseball) from a popularity and collectibility perspective for quite a few years now. So that bodes well for the future of fb card prices. Lastly, if you look at prices and market cap of Mahomes vs Brady - given how many cards they have, pop counts, etc - Mahomes is arguably more expensive already. Anyways thanks for your thoughts on this. I just posted a bunch of my Brady cards to YT.
I've been slowly picking up any Tom Brady PSA 10 cards that I can get a good price on and will hold them until his HOF induction at which point I will sell them "hopefully" for a nice profit!
What happened to the Saints? Bill Simmons said they looked like the 1999 STL Rams - not this best take for sure. The NFL is a league of second-chances. IT make take awhile (or not), but the Saints will be back.
As long as Mahomes keeps winning, people will continue to debate his greatness vs the greatness of Tom Brady. He'll always be in that barbershop debate. As you've already mentioned, Brady did beat Mahomes in both the AFC Championship game and the Super Bowl. People can always cite that to anger the Mahomes supporters. Consolidating into a low grade Contenders rookie ticket card might be the way to go though. I think that card will continue to rise over time because of its scarcity the same way your Star Jordan rookie card will. Congrats on that one. Big time.
I personally think you have the sorta right idea but the wrong cards. IMO panini population reports and the various offerings flooded the market with over production. IMO the sweet spot is 2000-2004 or so in rookies and refractors. It’s possible your 2017 angle could be correct but again I would look at all the different parallels available for that and other offerings and pack odds are elusive for panini production which makes me think there are a lot of product out there. I personally only collect really 90s inserts MJs Kobe’s as you have pack odds and production scarcity and trashed scarcities as pop reports don’t match production numbers so the missing cards are mostly gone as back then the value aspect wasn’t there so cards trashed or small amount in unopened boxes. Those in boxes come out bricked as well. Good luck to whatever you do.
I think they’ll always be a QB debate regardless of records. Kind of Like MJ or Kobe or MJ or LeBron. People will have their own personal GOATS and collect who they like. Older generations will call Brady the 🐐while the new generation will say it’s Mahomes. Either way I am glad I was in an era to watch both of these players play.
I think Mahomes will surpass Brady in the goat debate and I don't think he'll have to play as long or break the longevity records to do it. That said, as long as Mahomes is playing, the comparisons with Brady will continue.
Love your videos. Tom Brady will be iconic for a long time. I think with many retired players with almost two decades worth of cards the rookie and rare cards like autos and patches will always hold value but later cards in the career will probably not have as much demand in time.
I agree they help Mahomes too much but to downplay what he’s done with a defensive team is wrong. He plays surgical now. He still makes amazing football throws, not everything has to be a 60 yard bomb. It’s the sweet science
This is a huge Super Bowl in the GOAT race. If Mahomes becomes the first QB in NFL history to threepeat, especially if he wins SB MVP, he may not even need to win 7 rings to surpass Brady in the goat debate. If he loses he will have to win at least 7 rings to surpass Brady.
With the bad officiating and Paddy always late sliding and pulling those late OB tricks eventually a player is gonna hit him into next year. Paddy will get injured eventually because if the defense is gonna get a penalty the player will start making it worth it. Funny thing is 2-3 years ago I kinda liked the Chiefs, because of the bad calls and stuff I am turned off.
Hold Brady. Or buy Brady if the Chiefs 3peat. In 10 years Brady will be proven to have been and always be the GOAT. Time will eventually prove it without doubt. Not only head to head, but Mahomes won't catch the rings or stats either. Andy Reid is getting old, and once he is retired the Chiefs dynasty is over.
Bills coach should be fired. Why are you chasing the score in the first half. Bottom line is game was decided by 2-pt conversion. As usual, Bills blow it again!
@@phillyg3107No. But the point is most prospects young players do not work out. If he gets injured like Zion you could still lose value. Great pick sell some and lock in your profits.
No one cares about 15th year prizm Brady cards lol. Not a good job by drinking the kool-aid while these were hot, these are borderline worthless long term. Burning money as always. Nice sports knowledge ! 💵🔥💵🔥💵🔥💵🔥💵🔥
Nice cards but it's always safer to invest in autos and rookies. Jordan should be a coach in the NBA to help increase interest in the league and I would cheer for a Jordan coached team.🎉👍💯
Jordan was a wizard bro.... dudes who talk sports cards but don't know where the best players played comical this dudes a joke unsub might as well have a hot female talking since they don't know cards or sports either
My tom brady card collection is in trouble.
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Unfortunately, I just don’t see these cards as a true store of value. Sure, there may be a handful of rare, nearly unobtainable cards that hold significant worth, but for the average collector, that’s just not the case. From the start, you need at least a 10% gain in value just to break even after selling fees, which makes it a tough investment.
It’s hard to justify keeping them purely for nostalgia given the cost. Personally, as a big Joe Montana fan growing up, I always wanted his rookie card. I could afford the highest-graded version, but realistically, that money is better off in an index fund for the future. Instead, I settled for a nice-looking lower-grade copy to satisfy my nostalgic itch.
For most of us, sports cards are more of an expensive hobby than a reliable investment-often one where you can’t even recoup your money. And of course, there’s the gambling aspect, but that’s a whole different discussion.
Keep up the great work with your videos!
10:52 is exactly what your doing. Last time I check TB12 still has 7 SB Titles and holds the Tiebreakers beating Mahomes in Super Bowl and is 2-0 vs Mahomes in the playoffs.
Mahomes has chance to do the 3 peat something TB12 has never done. It will be a MJ vs Lebron Conversation and as long as you in the conversation your cards will always hold value.
*****RIGHT NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO BUY TB12 CARDS, NOT SELL*********
Thanks for the feedback!
If I had a Tom Brady Grail card I would hold it with the plan to sell around 2040
At this point he probably has 6 figures wrapped up in cards and a wife that he has to justify his purchases to. It's probably hard to justify the 10k he spent on random Brady cards since they're all going down. That's why he's overthinking. If he woulda stuck with rookies and autographs, I don't think he'd be having this issue.
@@johnwayne9828 Agreed.
If we as collectors think that Brady's value will "Go to $0" just because Mahomes may do some things Brady didn't, then that's a rough commentary on the card market as a whole (i.e. only value in one QB). Also, keep in mind that if Brady continues to improve as an analyst, and/or has success as part owner of the Raiders, there will be an element of "wow this guy wins at every level" and collectibility may actually increase with Brady. The sky is definitely not falling.
I'm not following football these days, but I am wondering if the Chiefs are even getting a fraction of the talk of "Brady had Belichick" or in this case "Mahomes had Reid"? Brady winning that title in Tampa made him the current GOAT. Mahomes could get injured as he ages, anything is possible.
Two comments for you. Number one it's good for Patrick mahomes to win the super bowl so that there is debate amongst hobby card collectors. Number two. Don't buy shiny stuff. Only buy the most iconic best cards of the best players if you want value long term (Brady's contenders rookie Auto would be in the iconic category).
agreed about the shiny stuff- it's the biggest scam in the hobby right now
Agree with contenders but don't agree on shiny stuff. I'd much rather own Brady's 2002 finest refractor #'d to 250 than his Bowman chrome RC that has been graded over 10k times.
@@802ProjectsI think they are speaking of modern shiny stuff with endless parallels all numbered. Even though the pics are all the same.
@@802Projects You could be right, if they reach another generation like the rare Jordan inserts did, we will know for sure in the future. But until then, I'm sticking with what is most liquid for the sake of long-term value.
100%
Interesting that while NFL is the most popular sport in USA, where card collecting is part of the culture, the NFL greats other than the GOAT don’t get any hobby love. Seems like the new prospects is where most of the hobby interest is and everything else is kinda whatever. While with NBA there are guys like Iverson, Tmac, even Derrick Rose that are highly collected, but they are no where near GOAT status, not even a discussion..
IF Brady's value is diminishing then I know I don;t want to collect any football cards unless it would be a short term hold and a quick flip. I agree that the NFL isn't what it used to be...and it's going to get worse. Once they are playing "two hand touch" or flag football the new generation of kids will have no interest in collecting players from the "old days". I never imagine, as a Bears fan, that Devin Hester's job would be made obsolete. Less than 2 decades later, it effectively has been. Maybe I'll start early on my pickleball collection.
Always on the lookout for nice, older, Brady stuff. Unfortunately, I do see that you run into the shilling and shadiness that occurs since so many bought in during the bubble and they're still trying to 'protect' their costs and minimize losses. However, I do think you're going to see support for whatever Topps does in the NFL like you've never seen before and it will be interesting. Football cards are an interesting thing. Once a player market is set, it really doesn't move much.... unless that move is a huge down move. The hype is priced in immediately and it just turns into people looking to dump it on whoever will pay 10% more.
I dont think tom brady should have become a nfl broadcaster.. i think he should have done what jordan done and become a private preson out of the spot light and make occasional BIG appearances… jordan did everytihng right after his career…. brady should quit broadcasting and become private with just BIG moment appearances...
Some cool Brady cards- I don't think those prizm sets are going to hold even short term 3-5 years (which is an eternity for flippers, but it's not LONG term lol. I have the Joe Montana rookies that I pack pulled when I was 11 or 12 years old, but I do think the early Brady rookies and the grails will still hold value and continue to incrementally increase over time. Too many sets, too many parallels, too much color for it to be sustainable at a good price point. Same for Mahomes- I think there will be 2-3 cards minus grails (big rpas, logo, laundry tag, shields, etc) that will keep well.
Personally, I have nothing invested in Brady or Mahomes and don't plan too. I can't afford the really good cards, and anything else is just fantasy and gambling.
If that was my brady collection- I would sell 9/10 cards and either upgrade to a grail level card that is less volatile, or pocket most of the money/invest tradtionally (stocks, bonds, gold, crypto whatever you fancy) and buy yourself a sick pc Breeze card with the rest.
Jordan only played for the bulls? Don’t forget his Wizards stint!
Forgettable lol
He's clueless man no respect for this hobby clown
@@TheSportsCardDadhe actually did ok as a wizard if you check his age and stats at the time
@@TheSportsCardDad Forgettable? He turned a 20 win team into a 50 win team...they were making a playoff run then he blew out his knee...go back and watch his play he was just as fluid as he was in the 90s
@@nick0tripp312😂that's a fact
🐅 was a shoe in until he wasn’t. Hold your 🐎, 7 chips is a lot to surpass
QBs running would get killed back in the day. It’s much easier to be a 2 hand touch running QB these days.
Tell that to Fran Tarkenton.
You are showing off a glut of boring prizm parallels. There's a reason they're going to zero.
Yeah, he doesn't know what he's doing. Just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
Brady won't be in the HOF until 2028! Not the time to sell imo
Trade it for a Jim Brown RC. Old cards are cooler.
Some of those brady cards look like junk. Swap them with better looking brady.
Every great QB has a stumble in the middle of their career and Mahomes will probably be no different.
Montana won 2 SuperBowls in 1981 and 1984 and then had major back surgery in 1985 as many thought his career was over. He didn’t win another Superbowl until 1988 season.
Brady won 3 SuperBowls in 2001, 2003 and 2004. Then got that season ended injury in 2008, and didn’t win another Superbowl until 2015.
What worries me about Mahomes (and Josh Allen) is they take alot of hits scrambling. That takes it toll, and opens them up to a possible major injury.
What Mahomes is doing is historic, but their legacy can change in a heartbeat.
GM. Interesting Header versus the conversation. From the video, almost everything focused on 2015 Prizm to Present. I didn't see any Rookie, First, Second, or Third year Brady Cards. That was indicative of the notion, that you aren't really a Brady fan, but a younger collector that got serious during Brady's later years, as Mahomes was a young rookie, -thus the need for the compare and contrast discussion today. Here, in my collection, most of my cards are Brady's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and later cards. '..Yes, I too missed the boat, as a couple of my bit older friends have 5 00' Bowman Chrome Brady Rookie Cards, but they won't sell them, so I just worked around it, and bought all that I could find, and that worked out rather well. Hope this helps. Have a better one.. Peace!
Of course he's not a real fan, he's collecting to move them later
@@garygordon3075 '...Yeah...not hatin.., but kinda sensed that from the title versus the actual discussion and only the mid 2013-2018 Prizm Cards. Personally, I don't collect Brady, but He was the principle Quarterback most collectors generally wanted while I was busy doing my own umm.. 'gathering..' ;) Personally, Dustin would hate Me, if He saw just how many Jordan Cards I figured out 15 years ago to buy, *while they were still obtainable. Again.. Just saying. '
mahomes has too much controversy. even more than Brady. What happens if/when the nfl admits games were rigged for the chiefs? it'll be too late to buy back into Brady. 😁
Brady was drafted in the 6th round 199th overall pick and went on to accomplish the things he did. That is a unique place in sports history specific to him. We will most likely never see something like that again in the NFL. I would definitely keep some Brady cards in the collection no matter what Mahomes does.
Awful clickbait.
Invest in Vintage while it’s low.
Its tough to compare players of different eras. Ie Jordan vs Russell. Its not like they ever played together. But with Brady and Mahomes; there is some overlap and Brady got the best of him. Bradys last superbowl win (on a brand new team to in his mid 40's), he ran the tables against 3 superbowl winnning teams. Both players can be recognized as great. I'm still buying Brady and likely always will be.
Joe Montana autographs (and frankly Peyton Manning and Jerry Rice ect) are obtainable for less than 100$ all day on pretty decent stuff. Either they're really undervalued or Tom is really overvalued or ... I dunno. That's probably it.
I got a johnny Unitas auto from 1999 for less than 200 and he's been dead for 20+ years, and was voted as the goat QB a few decades ago. As for r Montana, I got a leaf auto for just over 20 bucks. These insane prices aren't gonna hold when dead legends go for a fraction.
Ohhhh...stop it!!!!!!!!
Cards never go to zero! Stop the dumb narratives in the hobby!
😂nothing goes to LITERALLY zero but before COVID, cards were pennies on the dollar to what they're going for now. If you don't think that can happen again, I got oceanfront property in Nebraska to sale you.
Mahomes still has a LONG way to go IMO - The 2000 Brady Press Pass is a buyer market right now as is his 2000 Bowman - If people are willing to fire sale - I am happy to buy those
The Bowman's for sure, not so sure about press pass though unless it's the autograph.
Lebron is not that dude at all. Dude is paying the media to sign to klutch sports to stay relevant next to Jordan. Mahomes and Brady feels more genuine with fans and media comparing.
As a Lions fan even with the recent success they have had- I find it difficult to watch NFL. It’s not exciting to me anymore, I’m constantly looking for flags after every big play and fantasy football makes it even more unenjoyable. I really enjoy College football more than NFL
College football is not much better honestly
College is terrible now too. NIL deals killed loyalty
Stats in football are totally meaningless in the long run. The games, and the rules change too much, and it makes no sense to compare passing yards between Mahomes and Brady and Montana and Tarkenton and Tittle. That's why football fans don't even know the numbers of their own records the way baseball fans do. Tom Brady will likely always be remembered, but it won't be because of his personal statistical records.
Brady will always be viewed as the GOAT by many, barring Mahomes winning more rings and playing more years at a higher level...the latter of which is almost guaranteed not to happen. Lebron/Jordan is a good comp on this. Jordan is the GOAT, but Lebron has clearly had the greatest career ever. Brady will be the GOAT but barring injury, Mahomes will probably have as good of, if not better, stats when he retires. The game has just changed that much, in basketball and football.
Came to listen about the hobby and cards….got a 2 minute tangent about how salty you are about Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs and Refs. Take a moment to appreciate greatness as we’ll never see it again.
Still waiting to see greatness. The most average looking 16-1 team of all time
For all the Chiefs haters out there: Would you like some cheese with your whine?!
Jordan is the Goat Forever. Sold all Brady and Mahomes during Covid. The only person I collect is Josh Allen. When his cards came out, I just wanted the rookie. Have a little over 75 of them. I will continue to hold them and it's not the monetary value I care about. I mainly collect Silver Age comics. Especially ASM, X-Men, Hulk, Daredevil, Avengers and Captain America...Love Them!
I'd be selling Josh Allen because he's not on my radar. At all. New player?
No I'm a Hold On Brady and Have A what id like to think is a Good Brady Collection. Hes Stihl Gonna Get His HOF jacket and I like his Announcing Hes Bringing Back the Madden BOOOOM !!!! 😅 i Stihl have Most of my Brady Rookies.. only sold Doubles... and ive learned once... I sold a Brady Chrome Rookie when they 1st came out.. but I ended up getting a Bowman Paper Back... The Metal Rookie Is the one I like that I have the Best... think I have 7 or so... a couple Refractors and Xfractor... And a 2 row Full thats Running Over Of Top Loader Brady Cards. Some Base.. Some Insert.. Some Silver Holos Etc etc. going back to Rookies and 1st year Topps... and alot in between. BRADY IS STIHL THE GOAT 🐐 JUST LIKE JORDAN IS THE GOAT 🐐 IN BASKETBALL
2024 is the year of cards going down, buying market
You openly despise breaking but 95% of the cards you talk about you immediately talk about monetary value associated with them, no actual just awesome collectiblity of that player/card. I just find the 2 takes hypocritical is all.
That's what influencers do
Like the vast majority of hobbyists, I have PC parts of my collection (like Drew Brees), and also cards I'm speculating on. Comparing this to excessive breaking in our hobby is comparing apples to oranges
@TheSportsCardDad gambling is gambling, it's ALL gambling..breaks, prospecting, pack opening, it's all the game of chance for money. It just blows my mind so few of anyone on youtube talks about trading, Ultra modern set building...I mean how easy a topic is that with the 2024 mlb draft class, set building from that year or 2022 sets or insert sets....idk..there are good topics to be discussed without making everything about money and the transactional part. Which i am very ok with, but when I buy into breaks I'm ok with whatever team because I keep my mets, sell the cards I don't care about and set building the random stuff. But my point was your dislike for breaking but then make every other thing about money or the chance and ROI...just seems rough
@@AdultArtsAndCraftssportscards I've forever said on my channel, I have a family and not interested in spending significant money (at least for me) on single cards without taking value into account. My Bobby Hebert cards that I spend very little money on, I'm not concerned about values. There is a lot of nuance here
@@TheSportsCardDadif you don't think you've spent a significant amount on cardboard, I'm afraid of what you would think IS significant. For the bart, rdj, and star Jordan alone you probably spent 15k. 99% of people would call that amount significant.
The Chiefs have become completely unlikeable and Mahomes has been carried by his defense the last 2 years. He's great but I'm not so sure his cards will always have high value.
Mahomes is closing the gap fast......I don't blame you. Now there are the 3 greatest QBs: Brady, Mahomes and Montana. It's getting crowded
No chance buddy it's Brady by a country mile and it's not even close! Brady owns Kermit! Kermits first regular season loss...Brady,first playoff loss...Brady and finally his first Super Bowl loss...Brady! Nobody will catch him oh yeah over the age of 40 and a prime Kermit! 😂
For people over 30 years old, Montana will always be held in a higher regard than Brady and definitely wayyyy higher than Mahomes. That's when the NFL was pure football at it's finest. This garbage now is unwatchable
@Podobed I'm 55 and I disagree. Brady is the Goat everyone else is a distant 2nd.
Mahomes doesn't get hit or sacked much. Hits taken over time make a difference on any quarterback. We have had awesome quarterbacks that just didn't have great protection around them.
People got too much recency bias to think Mahomes over Brady even with a sb win in two weeks. Not yet kid…..not yet.
The NFL is boring to watch, the NBA everyone says sucks right now..meanwhile the NHL has never been better or more entertaining. Watch and invest in hockey boys.
One signpost you can aim towards to NOT sell out of some Brady cards is his Hall of Fame Enshrinement in 2028. With all the QBs going in over the next few years (up until Rodgers eventual enshrinement), this Golden Era of QBs will have this annual time for celebrations.
It’s not that Tom’s prices will “go down” it’s just that once the player retires the only people buying/hunting those cards are the actual fans that want them for the most part. Jordan transcended a lot of fan bases (why he’s so widely collected) cause he was different for the time. Most fan bases passionately hated Tom.
You think everyone buying Jayden Daniels right now loves Jayden Daniels or the Commanders? Highly doubt it. You said it yourself you bought Tom for an investment not cause you wanted him for the PC.
Why are you still calling them the commanders? Theyre back to being the redskins.
Jordan didn't just play for the Bulls. Remember, he had an ill-fated comeback attempt with the Bullets.
Wizards
I told ya!!! All cards go to zero!!!!
except for all the stuff that isn't zero, this is a brilliant point (and if it was framed correctly, your point that maximum value isn't a constant would be fine)
@ Exactly my point!!!!
What drugs are you on? Brady will NEVER go to zero!!!!!!!!
Have Jordan cards been hurt by Lebron challenging his GOAT status? I see no difference with Brady / Mahomes. Except Brady beat Mahomes head to head twice 🤷♂️
Sure I hear you, but Lebron is 40 and wrapping up his career. Mahomes is 29. Barring injury, he still has a long runway
@ Maybe!
Patty gotta win 4 more rings to tie Brady. Not happening.
Mahomes will never get 7 super bowls because I will find him & straight “Tanya Harding” That Sonofagun lol… I’d like to say THANK YOU for your reasonable takes on everything from MJ to Mahomes sliding late (I live in Houston).. I 100% agree with everything you said… Lastly, I know MJ cards Stay Strong because has nothing else coming out, he’s not signing new cards etc etc, based on that Alone I’d sell Brady ASAP.. Also, you’re right that MJ making FEW selective appearances makes him that much more Legendary, referring back to when the top 75ish players all gathered last & MJ showed up late, Everyone froze in awe thinking or saying “That’s him, that’s really him” .. Brady is amazing but truly Apple & oranges with “GOAT Hype” & “GOAT Value”
Tom Brady beat Maholmes in superbowl. The end of debate. Different game also unlike what Tom did especially early in his career. Tom is the GOAT
It’s weird to me…more people endear to the Astros during and after their latest scandal. They’ll make all the excuses why life goes on but so many hate the Chiefs and more specifically Mahomes for legally taking advance of the rules.
Agreed; the NFL is putting out a terrible product to watch even though they have some of the best athletes in the world. Penalties have made the game very frustrating to watch. And unfortunately, the officials have become too much a part of the NFL product due to "player safety" and online sports betting. Plus the politics of the game are ruining it---Choose love? No crap! Think I'll choose hate today?!?! Cheers.
I respectfully disagree. If you watch other sports I actually feel that the nfl referees are probably the best at their job of any. Have you watched college or nba basketball recently…now that is hard to watch…. In fact I’ve stopped watching for the most part until March or the finals.
I really like the idea of keeping 4-5 of your favourite Brady’s 🐐… Sell off the remainder 💰 and get a couple of your “grail” cards.
Thats a Win / Win scenario for you and your collection.
Some awesome Brady’s. ✊
Interesting take. I am a Brady collector - started buying in around Oct-Nov 2023 through mid-2024. So I’m biased. Based on what I’ve seen - and I’ve flipped a fair amount of his cards during this same period-Brady’s prices aren’t dropping. At least for the cards I’m looking at.
Think your comments (a) show too much recency bias. And (b) are conflating real world performance vs card performance.
Long term my main concern is if any retired football player holds significant value - ie who is the Mantle/Ruth/Jordan of football cards? Currently there isn’t one. Jim Brown holds a bit of value but not much. Guys like Montana have limited hobby relevance/value besides a very few high grade cards. Think this is due to football being secondary to baseball during that time. But football has taken over (baseball) from a popularity and collectibility perspective for quite a few years now. So that bodes well for the future of fb card prices.
Lastly, if you look at prices and market cap of Mahomes vs Brady - given how many cards they have, pop counts, etc - Mahomes is arguably more expensive already.
Anyways thanks for your thoughts on this. I just posted a bunch of my Brady cards to YT.
Great, well thought out take! Thanks for sharing 👍
There is no Debate about the Brady Patty goat status.
What if it ever comes out that some of these Refs really are throwing the games?
You left ALF speechless - Mahomes has a long way to go.
So you are selling your Brady cards and (from our conversations) considering buying a big time Trek card...have I influenced the influencer?? lol
lol non sports grails, let's go!! :)
I'm holding Tom Brady and since he just retired, the people that only collect current players will sell
I've been slowly picking up any Tom Brady PSA 10 cards that I can get a good price on and will hold them until his HOF induction at which point I will sell them "hopefully" for a nice profit!
i will never use psa!
What happened to the Saints? Bill Simmons said they looked like the 1999 STL Rams - not this best take for sure. The NFL is a league of second-chances. IT make take awhile (or not), but the Saints will be back.
Dustin , sell all your collections and use the money to buy your kids another house . Real estate will always go up
Just like in 2008-2009
Arynelson. Technology will wipe out the middle class. Dustin needs to start thinking about his kids . House first , inflated cards second
I’m a huge Brady RC collector and it’s tough for me to let them go. My boys want me to hold them for years. I really want to sell off a few
As long as Mahomes keeps winning, people will continue to debate his greatness vs the greatness of Tom Brady. He'll always be in that barbershop debate. As you've already mentioned, Brady did beat Mahomes in both the AFC Championship game and the Super Bowl. People can always cite that to anger the Mahomes supporters. Consolidating into a low grade Contenders rookie ticket card might be the way to go though. I think that card will continue to rise over time because of its scarcity the same way your Star Jordan rookie card will. Congrats on that one. Big time.
I personally think you have the sorta right idea but the wrong cards. IMO panini population reports and the various offerings flooded the market with over production. IMO the sweet spot is 2000-2004 or so in rookies and refractors. It’s possible your 2017 angle could be correct but again I would look at all the different parallels available for that and other offerings and pack odds are elusive for panini production which makes me think there are a lot of product out there. I personally only collect really 90s inserts MJs Kobe’s as you have pack odds and production scarcity and trashed scarcities as pop reports don’t match production numbers so the missing cards are mostly gone as back then the value aspect wasn’t there so cards trashed or small amount in unopened boxes. Those in boxes come out bricked as well. Good luck to whatever you do.
Sell Tom for a 58 Jim brown
I think they’ll always be a QB debate regardless of records. Kind of Like MJ or Kobe or MJ or LeBron. People will have their own personal GOATS and collect who they like. Older generations will call Brady the 🐐while the new generation will say it’s Mahomes. Either way I am glad I was in an era to watch both of these players play.
Everybody's forgetting that they might very well tout Marino above them all if he only had the ring.
Not likely. Elway was better than Marino and he won 2 rings, nobody talks about him either.
I think Mahomes will surpass Brady in the goat debate and I don't think he'll have to play as long or break the longevity records to do it. That said, as long as Mahomes is playing, the comparisons with Brady will continue.
😂I wonder if the refs get rings too since they did more than anyone to get Kermit to his threepeat.
Brady NFC & AFC Championship. Brady beat Mahomes in a Superbowl. Brady has the edge.
I'm assuming there will be a bump in Brady cards when he's inducted in HOF...... still can't go wrong with him as a PC
Love your videos. Tom Brady will be iconic for a long time. I think with many retired players with almost two decades worth of cards the rookie and rare cards like autos and patches will always hold value but later cards in the career will probably not have as much demand in time.
I agree they help Mahomes too much but to downplay what he’s done with a defensive team is wrong. He plays surgical now. He still makes amazing football throws, not everything has to be a 60 yard bomb. It’s the sweet science
That’s a fair take. Maybe he just takes what the defense gives him
Mark my words... This week is Mahomes's card peak. He is about to be blown out by the Eagles. His legacy will look much different soon.
Nah, the NFL will keep this game close, haven't you learned anything throughout these playoffs
Mark my words. Haha
This is a huge Super Bowl in the GOAT race. If Mahomes becomes the first QB in NFL history to threepeat, especially if he wins SB MVP, he may not even need to win 7 rings to surpass Brady in the goat debate. If he loses he will have to win at least 7 rings to surpass Brady.
@@counterproof You're clueless! He needs 8 to enter the conversation. Brady owns him what part is this hard for you to understand?!
😂threepeat doesn't trump 7 rings.
Hey Dustin what did your Spectra Tom Brady grade at? As far as MVP it’s clearly Joe Burrow imo.
With the bad officiating and Paddy always late sliding and pulling those late OB tricks eventually a player is gonna hit him into next year. Paddy will get injured eventually because if the defense is gonna get a penalty the player will start making it worth it. Funny thing is 2-3 years ago I kinda liked the Chiefs, because of the bad calls and stuff I am turned off.
Mahomes is so young. Everyone knows where this is going its still early.
Hold Brady. Or buy Brady if the Chiefs 3peat. In 10 years Brady will be proven to have been and always be the GOAT. Time will eventually prove it without doubt. Not only head to head, but Mahomes won't catch the rings or stats either. Andy Reid is getting old, and once he is retired the Chiefs dynasty is over.
Bills coach should be fired. Why are you chasing the score in the first half. Bottom line is game was decided by 2-pt conversion. As usual, Bills blow it again!
I would SELL Everything Brady, IYKYK !
Thanks 🙏 again for ZB53, couldn't sniff the field for Saints... MVP of leagues #1 overall d fence
Arch to win 8 rings with the Who Dats?!?
YES lol 😂 its written in the prophecy!
Hold on to Tom Brady.
Enjoyed seeing your cards. You should show more of them.
chiefs win with referee help! it is sickening!
Lamar had over 4000 passing yards
Looks like 4,172
Too bad he SUCKS in the playoffs.
Brady made Montana relevant again. Mahomes will do the same for Brady.
I still say Joker is a buy!!!!
Never buy a player after he retires … money all in up and coming rookies
Mac jones Justin fields and Kenny Pickett ring a bell? I’ll take my chances with Brady Montana and rice thank you.
If you want to lose money take this advice.
@ I bought 10k worth of antman cards his rookie year .. Prizm rookie auto /10 .. you think I’m down money ?!
@@phillyg3107 in 5 years if antman hasn’t won 3 titles your going to wish you had your 10k back buddy
@@phillyg3107No. But the point is most prospects young players do not work out. If he gets injured like Zion you could still lose value. Great pick sell some and lock in your profits.
No one cares about 15th year prizm Brady cards lol. Not a good job by drinking the kool-aid while these were hot, these are borderline worthless long term.
Burning money as always. Nice sports knowledge !
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Mj is the basketball GOAT, there's no debate.
Nice cards but it's always safer to invest in autos and rookies. Jordan should be a coach in the NBA to help increase interest in the league and I would cheer for a Jordan coached team.🎉👍💯
Its different to Jordan and lebron even if Mahomes equals at 7 superbowls Bradys always going to have the play off and superbowl win against Mahomes
Awesome!
😂
Chiefs didn't beat Bills. The refs beat them again ..MAHOMES will be crushed in SB ..his cards crash. Keep your Bradys. Sell Patricia Mahomes
Just like he’s been crushed in other super bowls.
Jordan was a wizard bro.... dudes who talk sports cards but don't know where the best players played comical this dudes a joke unsub might as well have a hot female talking since they don't know cards or sports either