"We Are At War With Germany" | Downton Abbey
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- The first world war is announced to guests and staff.
Clip from Season 1, Episode 7 - Cora’s news throws Matthew’s future into jeopardy and makes Mary question the proposal. Thomas finds a new future for himself and so does Gwen. But Mary, by her lack of decision, may have lost hers. A grand garden party at Downton brings events to a head, but all this pales into insignificance in the face of Robert’s shock announcement.
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I find it fascinating that Mary would not hug her father, mother or even sisters but would hug Carson… It just shows that he was really the one who raised her and knew her the best
Sadly, she and her sisters probably didn't spend a great deal of time around their parents when they were children. In those days, aristocratic (and even just plain wealthy) children were pretty much raised by nannies and governesses, and saw their parents maybe an hour or two a day. Until she was in her teens, she probably saw Carson more often than she saw her parents.
More Etiquette, her Parents where the Earl & Countess, her Social Superiors, in public they can't offer conspicuous sympathy, nor can she seek it. but there are select members of the Household that are "In Confidence" with the Family (Carson would be one of them), they can offer discrete sympathy. in the evening when the event was over Lady Marry could have begged off some minor aliment and Mother and the Girls would have said they where tending to her and they could have had a cry session and father pops in for a bit.
@@FunSizeSpamberguesa as a reference, Violet basically confirms Isobel's snipe of Robert & Rosamonde only spending an hour with their parents (Violet & the former Earl Grantham)
Great call out! It’s like in the episode in Season 4 where, after Matthew dies, Carson hugs Lady Mary as she weeps and tells her “You cry, my lady:..you have a good cry…”
@@briandfallon74 Also as the Earl he is an Organ of Government he can not show favor to any Subject of the Crown over any other, and apart from fathering or naming an Heir in accordance with the Law he can not influence the Grantham line of Succession. any sympathies he could offer would be very pro-former and hollow just like if he showed up to a natural disaster or major industrial accident
A truly epic scene. "At war with Germany" meant, that two of the technological most advanced countries would plunge themselves in a industrialized carnage. Also, as every great war, the first world war marked the end of an epoch, which for some has been the " belle epoque". It was in the august of 1914, that the 19th century ended. And some people might have felt, that their world would never be the same afterwards.
That is interesting to think about. Many people have called 9/11, the end of the golden age of the 20th century.
i often read that the fall of the sovjet union ended the 20th century thats why its called "the short 20th century" while the "long 19th century" ended with WW1 because the balance of power swifted and the colonial powers lost their momentum. And actually we are in kind of a in between time with so much social, economical and ecological changes that will last around 50 years until everything is settled for good or bad
@@Dino-god69 It was perfectly evitable. There were no border disputes between Germany and Britain. Britain had the power to stop it right now at 1914 by Diplomacy. (Germany bears it's part two. There was no high ranking diplomat on the helm in summer 1914. All of them were on vacation. The military on both sides had free reign for escalation.)
It was especially tragic since neither country realy wanted to fight the other, they had decent diplomatic relations even despite the german fleet program. A cynical historian would say that germany got screwed by austria twice. Of course reality was more complex and without germany giving austria a free pass for their military campaign against serbia, it is unlikely that austria would have risked the war with russia. Then again: Getting britain into the war was solely germanys fault. Curse the Schlieffen plan. Not only was it a military failure, the march through belgium got britain into the war. WW1 and by extend WW2 were what happens when people allow nutjobs and dimwits to be in charge. Mind the history to prevent its repeat, don't let emotions control your vote.
@@FackeldackelAustria and Serbia are scape goats. The reality was this conflict was brewing for a while .
For the context of the scene, in 1914 no one expected the war to become what it did -- a four-year prolonged bloodbath in which the horrors of the battlefield was ever more pronounced by the appearances of so many new ways of killing from poison gas to bombardment from the air and the introduction or perfection of ever more terrible weapons from machine guns to aircraft to tanks etc. Regardless of side, the nearly universal feeling that August 1914 was that the fighting would be over before "the green leaves fell from the trees" and there would be peace once more in a civilized Europe before Christmas.
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It hurts me that people need context on such an important event in history (no hate meant for original commenter!!)
The Pope knew. When dying, in the early days of August 1914, Pius X used to say, in italian, "Verrà il Guerrone!", which means "The Great War is coming!" He died on the 20th of that bloody month.
@@andreadecarolis1026 Thank you very much for this piece of information. I have just realised that I have never, until now, paid any attention to the Catholic Church during the Great War.
if the Schlieffen Plan worked, then war would have been over by Christmas.
I appreciate that Bates isn’t rude and doesn’t tell Molesley to back off. He’s subtle about it. And Molesley lets it go.
Except there’s a later scene, Bates is in prison for the murder of his wife, Mosley approaches anna.
She politely tells him she’ll be pining for Bates forever.
I’m glad Miss Baxter comes along. They’re my favourite couple, aside from Sybil and Branson.
This is actually based on Julian Fellowes Fathers experience when he was at an garden party and war was announced- amazing little Easter egg
I suppose his father, Peregrine Fellowes (1912-1999), was referring to 1939 and WWII but, if he had an exceptional memory, he might have remembered the start of WWI.
@@dlxmarksThat's quite possible, at five or six years old, a child is already receptive to such impressions and could remember such an announcement at a party, especially since the consequences of the announcement "We are at war" will also be remembered in the years to come.
@@thomasplinguidy4588At five or six a child might remember an event like that, but very unlikely at just over two years. And the timing is wrong for a garden party, the news that Britain was at war was all over the country by morning.
Apart from this clip I always get sad to imagine that George, Matthew's only child will definitely be enlisted for WW2 just like his father did. Hope he survives in downton universe.
I did the math and he definitely will. Whyyyyyy
It was a reality of the two generations that fathers and sons and mothers and their daughters would have to go through the many of the same horrors of war. What's more I wonder if they will ever in any movie address how the family managed during the Great Depression. They've already shown the enormous effort it took to maintain the manor and estate during the very prosperous Twenties. It would be even more daunting during the Thirties.
The Western World has lived through a sort of golden age following the rebuilding period after WW2 where prosperity came to more people than ever before and though war was certainly present nothing on the scale of the two World Wars has visited the planet since 1945, nor has a Depression caused the economic dislocation seen in the 1930s. I rather wonder if we aren't coming to the end of that relatively tranquil period in human history and whether we might not look back on this time period in the same way as those who could remember the period before WW1 looked back on the prewar period.
@@madyalvarez428 I'm not quite sure where you got the idea that officers are less likely to die than enlisted troops but that would only hold true if her were of very high rank, colonel or above for example and even that would be no guarantee of safety. In fact officers had a higher casualty rate by percentage than enlisted soldiers in WW2.
@@madyalvarez428 - That assumes officers had a lower casualty rate than enlisted men; I don't know that that's the case at all. Junior officers were generally leading from the front, and he definitely would be a junior officer given his age.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 he’d be lucky if he joins the navy instead of the army
If he gets enlisted until Dunkirk then oh well
This was probably one of the best dramatic television series made, the focus detail is impeccable!
The British do some really good television!
I just started watching season 1 this week and finished this episode this morning, and immediately search for a TH-cam clip. The music as the reactions played on their faces was perfect!
@@RavinRay This scene wasn’t historically accurate, Britain declared war on Germany at 11pm on the night of August 4th 1914. The bells of Big Ben and churches around the country rang out into the night to alert the country that it was finally at war.
The declaration did not come out of the blue, in fact it was anticipated as Austria-Hungary & their ally Germany were already at war with Serbia, Russia & France, the British military reserve had already been called to active service.
It would of been highly unlikely that so many would of been oblivious to such great news hours later it was announced.
@@jeffstanley4593 Indeed, another well made series!
I love how they made it historically accurate and incorporated real world events that actually happened in the early 20th century. Their attention to keep the show historically accurate is amazing. I learned so much about British and world history from this show.
@@sarahwalker9071 The show was very well done but this scene isn’t historically accurate. Britain declared war on Austria-Hungary & Germany at 11pm at night and church bells around the country rang out into the night as the declaration of war was anticipated.
This scene was done for dramatic effect.
4:06 That moment when they realize that the storm isn't coming, it's already here.
This scene give me goosebumps every time. The soundtrack 'an ideal marriage' and then the dramatic fact of the war. The best show
I love that the first series ends as it began: with Lord Grantham receiving very grave news.
Yeah, he should just not real telegrams.
The Dowager Countess really does get some of the best zingers in the series.
She's Dame Maggie. You expected less?
@@mamieanding5691 Good point.
What a wake call and reality check the war was. I'm on Season 5 of the show now but I had forgotten the discussion between Mary and Matthew that resulted because Mary pushes Matthew away at the end of Season 1. I never really realized how timely and well played the scene is between the two of them. Because when the war happens and Matthew is injured and comes back to Downton that's when Mary realizes how much she really does care for him.
As Edith said, she’s a nasty b...ch. She knew she loved Matthew, she didn’t need to be sure as she falsely pretended, but the opportunity arose for her that her mother would give birth to a brother and so she could be free to marry someone higher in her social circle. She remained that narrow minded till the very end, when she derailed Edith’s engagement to Bertie because she couldn’t stand the idea of her sister’s ranking higher than her. That shows what a despicable character she had: she was ready to give up the man she loved and break his heart because he wasn’t good enough for her standards and she almost ruined her sister’s life out of jealousy.
The end of the ''Belle Époque'' years.
Great and very symbolic end for the first season
It was a very hot summer in England, in 1914.
It's funny but the Belle Epoque is very much a myth virtually all the European Great Powers were going through very challenging times in the run up to 1914. some more so than others and all believed they were facing threats.
FINALLY you posted this part! I love it. Such a chilling way to end season 1, when we all know what is to come. Incredible writing and film making.
In that case, I sympathized with Matthew. I would not marry a woman who would rather wait and see whether I would inherit a large estate or not. Lady Mary is more attached to Downton Abbey than to most people. She takes after her father a lot, who said Downton would be like a fourth child or a third parent for him. Matthew and Mary later found each other. "Crazy enough to marry a Crawley girl," indeed.
"I have to say what I think" "Why? Nobody else does." lol
Fast forward to episode 1 of season 2, where we see the horrors of the trenches and the battle field, then whisk away to the luxuries back at Downton Abbey. A stark contrast between the two worlds.
Isabel looking at Matthew is so subtle yet profound. She knows her only child is about to get drafted.
Not quite. Drafting of recruits wasn't a thing for the British Army before 1916, unlike for the French and German armies for example, which were, as a result, much bigger.
She can probably guess that he'd volunteer, though, or would at least be expected to.
She was afraid he’d volunteer, and that scared look at him spoke volumes
Given they're aristocrats, it only means one thing: volunteer army officer. They couldn't stop him from going lest they want to be labeled as "pacifist" and "unpatriotic"...
That was thrilling as hell. I've never fully understood the tragedy of WWI for Great Britain, as the war was not on its territory, but the next season of this show showed me why it was so tragic
To give some context: in WW1, nearly 900,000 British troops died. That's nearly twice as many deaths of American troops in WW1 (118,000) and WW2 (400,000) combined. The French and Russians lost well over a million people each, as did the Austro-Hungarians, while the Germans lost even more. The flower of an entire generation was lost. You can see why it was so traumatic for Europe.
It is more tragic for Britain because it meant the beginning of a long downfall that took decades. They also lost more soldiers in WW1 than WW2.
The situation in britain was complicated. Unlike most nations in ww1 britain was never directly threatened and had gone to war to preserve the balance of power in Europe and honour its alliances rather than to protect its home soil like the French and Russians had. And while those countries lost more britain still ended ww1 with an entire generation killed and maimed. Ww1 was also the beginning of the end for the British empire as cracks began showing with widened even further when ww2 ended.
Even today the perception is that Great Britain paid a heavy price to win the war but still lost the peace in the end.
@@oLii96x This is no surprise either, since the British were active on the main battlefields for the full 4 years in WW1. In WW2, they did not really intervene until 11 months before the end, when Germany was already largely worn down by the Eastern Front.
@@Cailus3542 And the worst result of WW 1 was the vindictiveness of the French, which put the world on a direct path to the next great conflict.
Field Marshal Foch knew it already after Versailles:
This is not peace, this is a armistice for 20 years.
impressive work on the details as the costumes ... which makes more credible the dialogues ! the gardens and the architectures the costumes are amazingly well done !
I forget where i read it, but the costumes for Michelle Dockery had to be specially made, because she’s several inches taller than young women at that time.
I wonder why they were wearing those clothes for summer picnic? I mean "summer"?
Been looking for this clip for ages, thank you
The Summer of 1914 was said to be just like this - 'idyllic' - then the 'lights went out all over Europe' (Foreign Secretary Lord Grey)
In August 2014, on the Centenary of WW1 breaking out, my family held a vigil for my great great uncle Adam Craig of the Royal Irish Rifles, killed at Langemarck, Belgium in 1917.
That was a wonderful thing your family did.
I wish our family had done a remembrance. My Dad would have enjoyed honoring his father who was severely wounded in 1917.
How has no one has commented about Mr. Bates describing himself as Anna’s admirer without Mr. Mosley actually knowing it? 😅
Molesley, not Mosely.
He had excellent taste, she's lovely!
Oh, Molesley knew it - that's why he started the conversation.
My friend has asked me if I want to go to a WWII museum and I'm sitting here still trying to get over the horrors of World War I
Whereas I'm stuck in the American Civil War. Like so many I had family fight in both world wars. I'm embarrassed to say I know so little.
I've recently scratched the surface of ww1 and what sticks out to me are the pilots. Dogfighting in brand new untested planes....wow...
I was watching Anna and Gwen's reaction to the announcement that Britain was at war with Germany, and now I wish we could have found out what Gwen did to help with the war effort. I get that she had to be written out, but it would have been interesting to see. I think the Season 2 script book has a brief reference to what she was doing, but I'd have to find it.
She left to be a typist/secretary .. Lady Sybil helped her, it was a major plot line!
@@thomasfy4 they had to do it that way because Rose Leslie for GoT.
So, I'm an old war mutt. I have PTSD and what are politely referred to as 'empathy issues'.
But I still love the relationship between Carson and Mary. She never had a more loving friend /mentor, fiercer advocate, or stronger shoulder. Very much the daughter he could never have.
Thank you for your service.
I love Carson, he's one of the best supporting actors I've ever seen.
2:18 I would love to see a whole compilation of Lady Mary and Carson scenes. They were the best part of the show (in my humble opinion).
Carson is so sweet and kind of like a dad to lady Mary
She’s his goddess.
@@juansantos-lq2kz No, he felt a loyalty and closeness to her because he'd been working at Downton since the time she was born, if not before.
One the best played though heartbreaking parts of this scene is how after Robert’s announcement while everyone looks at the others the older characters seem to flint to the young men because they know what is about to happen to them and they aren’t wrong 10% of the English men 18-30 died and many others seriously effected
British . Not. English
Ireland, Wales , Scotland where also involved in the war
@@hannahdyson7129 I’m American I know just enough to not even touch those nuances. I swear I can still feel searing look of distain my Scottish friend gave me when I said she was British. Additionally, this a show set in England primarily about English characters. My comment was in that context. Also, the significant loss of life be extended most the parties involved.
@@hannahdyson7129 Actually, I think the 10% English men is accurate, because Scotland, Ireland and Wales suffered casualties upward towards 15% because of various reasons, mostly that non-English soldiers were a little more expendable to the harder nosed English officers. They'd happily throw a Welsh regiment to the machine guns if it meant that an English one could get the glory and capture a target.
Oh, how I dread the thought of the world going through something like that again.
Robert's announcement was the end of the world they had lived in. Victorian-Edwardian Britain and it's social and political and economic structure were over. What had concerned most in the upper echelons of society for the previous months[the Irish Home Rule Bill and the almost comically managed Curragh Mutiny affair]were swept away, as with everything that the Downton Abbey saga portrayed.
So this was the beginning of an end for the United Kingdom?
@@joshuaguste6883 No, not the end for the UK, but nothing would be as it was before. The immense costs of the war nearly bankrupted Great Britain; the loss and maiming of so many men and the slowly dawning suspicion that it might have been avoided[whether it was 'worth it', is a question I can't answer]created a hurtful cynicism and a lack of hope for the future that really damaged British society.
Okay! I have to put this out there in the universe finally. When I first saw Downton Abbey, “series” 1 was on Netflix. Even though I knew what Americans call “seasons” the UK calls “series”, Downton Abbey was marketed as a mini-series in the vain of Pride and Prejudice or something. It was labeled mini-series on Netflix and at the Golden Globes “best mini series”. So when I watch this finale in 2011, I thought it was THE END OF THE SHOW. Leaving all this British aristocracy drama plot points unfinished, deemed silly and worthless in the wake of the news of what knew would be the extent of WW1. I thought it was genius….politically subversive even. I honestly never recovered from it the story not ending there, no matter how entertaining the show continues to be. If you read this, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk stay safe out there…
Well hello Ted, it's nice to have a little chat now and again. I hate to burst your bubble but this "series" has Six-6 sections if you will and as of May 2022, now has Two-2 movies to it's credit. So as Carson would say, "Keeping up standards is the only way to tell the Germans they won't beat us in the end."
Excellent editing for the lead-up to the announcement. 👍
That shot of the abbey tower at 3:17, just before Robert gets the fateful telegram, is perfect. A serene portrait of the grand old order, just before the guns of August shake it to pieces.
The outbreak of the war suddenly puts everything into perspective and reveals the utter meaninglessness of the aristocracy in the grand scheme of things. Brilliant.
Mary was only likeable when she's in love with Matthew. He really brought out the vulnerable side of her
This is how history happens. Imagine American families of all colors, sitting down to lunch on a sunny Sunday, turning on the radio and learning that Hawai'i was under attack, and so was Manila, and Guam, all places so obscure that Americans had to scour books to find them. I still remember coming out of the shower, turning on the TV and seeing one of the World Trade Center towers on fire.
It's kind of what happened with covid too. At first the pandemic was in China, then everything changed.
Manila wasn't obscure for Filipinos, it's our capital city and one of the largest cities in the world (well, it probably wasn't at the time but still had a population of a million even then). Hawaii wasn't obscure for Hawaiians. But I understand what you mean.
I remember I was on the veranda doing my homework, I was still school age. The news hadn’t reached us yet during the school day, I only found out when my mother yelled at us all to come to the TV. I’ll never forget that first footage I saw of the towers burning, filmed on a shaky camera from New Jersey. One of the survivors of the Titanic once wrote before he took his own life that the world woke up with the sinking of the Titanic, from there it seemed to all barrel straight into war. Same with 9/11, God. I can’t believe we fought that war for twenty years.
@@ennui9745they...they literally said "for Americans"...how...did you not get that?
@@jimmylittle9393 I said I get what he means, right there. Clearly you are illiterate. Go try to pick a fight somewhere else, smoothbrain. :)
I went to England in 2006 and I was not expecting to see so many monuments to WWI. Being from the US, we have more monuments to WW2. It wasn’t until I spoke to my dad one night about seeing so many that he told me that the UK lost pretty much a whole generation of men due to WW1.
The conversation between Mr. Bates and Mr. Mosely was nice. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
I watched the episode recently showing the wounded soldiers very very moving i whish i could thank Mr Fellows for showing such moving depiction of returning service men ♥️♥️♥️
GOSH!! This scene always send chills!! Brilliant Acting as always
Every single time i watch this scene, I get chills too
Mary hugging “the butler” but not her family…she had to have the appearance of the “stiff upper lip”, while she was safe to be herself in the presence of the best ally she could have. Carson wasn’t a “servant” in her eyes.That war was absolutely necessary to bring Europe into the 20th century, even with all the deaths, and they were all surprised about Germany when everybody was at the least aware of their mentality, and the ideology of a great German Empire to rival the British.
How was that war “necessary ?” What a mad thing to say in a safe era.
Crestfallen faces! It brings to us a realization, almost, to the dread, terror, and trepidation our ancestors felt when that announcement came , there in England, and here from our president that the USA had entered the War.
Actually this is fiction. There was a great enthusiasm for this war. Everyone thought it would be over quickly. Also no one knew or expected the horribleness of trench warfare and the devastating effects of modern weapons like tanks, mustard gas and machine guns.
Bates was kind to be honest to molesley about Anna even tho he kept the man in question to himself.
The dowager chiding Rosamund for stating her unwanted opinion may seem hypocritical as she frequently makes unwarranted remarks of her own in every situation. But I suppose in her own eyes, it’s only a remark to a purpose for the good of the family that is warranted. She never puts down a decision, only tries to dissuade or even try to find solutions or compromises.
Such as with Sybil, she disagreed with her choice of marriage and tried to dissuade her but ultimately stepped aside to adapt to the situation. When Ethel and her baby became problems she found a solution and when it had problems she went straight to the source to fix it. When Edith seemed to be lost and choosing a questionable path as a working woman, she at first disagreed but then allowed her to experience it for her own as it seemed to give her purpose and make her happy when she was broken from being jilted.
The only exception is probably Isobel but that’s just two bulls locking horns 😂
Incorrect. For them to be bulls they must be men. However, they are both lionesses of great bearing and dignity, though they are quite willing to fight each other, all others better beware when they are defending the family.
@@jayt9608 bruh it’s a metaphor. A metaphor doesn’t require gender
@@KoiYakultGreenTea
Lol
I was attempting to be somewhat tongue in cheek because I knew what was meant, but it was there to be said, and we both know that both ladies would have quickly castrated that metaphor in a more effective manner and tyen served it back again. 😁
I feel like this is quite symbolic. This was Europes high noon when everything seemed great, but as soon as war began it was all downhill.
Lord Grantham's mother Violet would have understood what that meant more than anyone else, having been young during the Crimean War, with Russia.
I Always Imagined That Carson Has Had This Dynamic With Mary(And To a Lesser Extent Her Sisters) From Day 1
*"Well, by Jove, it'll be done with in a week - a fortnight at most!"*
Rose Leslie sighted at 4:00 as a maid. “You know nothing, Jon Snow!”
She left Downton to pursue larger roles, like Game of Thrones.
Six months later, One Million Men would lay dead across the battlefields of Europe.
We've an old house built in the 1840's. One of the previous owners went down on HMS Amphion -- which would make him one of the first 'British' casualties of the war
Julian was a genius to have them speak so deep ...
They should really think about doing the show again, this time late 30s onwards. With some new cast members, obviously.
or a prequel, Violet's glittering aristocratic world before she became a countess, when she married, and when she had an affair with Prince Kuragin.
@@tonita88 I’d give everything for a prequel, to see downton on its glory days, even in season 1 things were not at their prime anymore. And yes, young Violet would be such a good character
@@tonita88 she may show up in The Gilded Age (set in 1880s NYC). by the same creators, they have hinted it may be in the same universe.
The Abrupt End of the Victorian Era
OMG! I love, love LOVE this series!!! Such great actors, script, everything is so perfect with it. I would love to see another series like this, playing in the 1900', with a bit more Jane Austen vibe ;) Is there any screenwriter here?!
Is this historically accurate. The British ultimatum to Germany expired at 11pm on August 4th 1914. By dawn the next day probably the whole country would have known.
I mentioned that in a comment on here. Around 8 comments below this one here.
Telegrams don't travel immediately. The news didn't break until the next day. I have always wondered that, though, as it was all over the tabloids.
Here we have a typical spring English Garden Party. The ladies dressed in white and wearing hats of various styles and fashion. The gentleman are in the Best dressed. The servants frantically running about making sure everything runs as smoothly as possible. Lady Grantham is sitting under a tent off to the side, masking her pain and sorrow from her recent fall and miscarriage. Lady Mary is heartbroken because she's rejected Matthew's marriage proposal. Carson being her surrogate father figure comforts her during her hour of need. Though she deserves what's coming to her. Lady Edith is of course devastated that Sir Anthony is not proposing because of Mary's lies and deceitful tactics. Mary "wants her cake and hate me too." Tom Branson falls more and more in Love with Lady Sybill with every minute, and moment that passes. TBH, Lady Sybill is catching feelings by now as well. 💗 The Dowager Countess is utterly frustrated by her daughter's meddling in Mary and Matthew's love life. But that's the calling card of Lady Rosamund in the early days of Downton Abbey. Although, I do have strong mixed emotions how she assists Lady Edith with regards to Baby Marigold in season 4 and 5. Last but not least, is Lord Grantham's facial expression watching everyone react to the news, "that we are at war with Germany."
There's a reason your comment is "lost in the shuffle": TL; DR
the irony of announcing war with germany as the musicians are playing haydn
“we are at war with Germany” doesn’t that give you chills? 😢
With the knowledge of today, I wonder whether the British had already suspected at that time that a war with the then most technologically advanced state on earth would also mean their own end in the long run.
There were entire villages and towns in Great Britain that didn't have any males at all due to them dying in the trenches...
not just in GB
Man .. Mary, all she had to do was marry him the first time around and just we wouldn't have had to suffer years of this show.
Pretty inaccurate depiction of how many reacted to the WW1 announcement.
If you looked at first-hand letters and accounts, the majority of British people were ecstatic at the news of war with Germany. Many young men and boys saw the war as an exciting adventure; owing to the great patriotic stories told by their great-grandfathers of the glorious wars against the British Empire's enemies. Many believed it would last less than a year. Unfortunately, many would also soon learn that reality is far from fiction.
The upper class had a lot of ties with the Germans, the British monarchy literally used to have a German name.
I think that reaction is a bit simplistic in hindsight. Prior to Germany invading Belgium, many were actually pro-Germany and if anything thought Britain should side with Germany against revanchist France and autocratic Russia. Only when Germany did invade Belgium was there outrage and an enthusiasm for war. In regards the short war, everyone believed it as European wars post-Napoleon were usually short. Often the armies would clash, have a couple of battles and one side would lose them and be forced to make peace.
I always liked this kind of thing, i mean, in this serie everyone where at their own bussiness, their romances, their break up, their family things, thinking it was the worst that could happen to them, and sudenly, this, a war, and not any war, a war with the mighty Germany, every problem that happend it's absolutly insignificant compared to that, and it's not something that could see it, not for them at least, the new just come to you house, blow up the door and just say it, we are at war, and everyone humble themself againt the real problem, the real threat, the real chance of die
I absolutely LOVE this series and the movies!!!
RIP Maggie Smith!
I just love Carson. He's like the second dad to the Lord Grantham's daughters.
Amo ver a carson siempre con mary consolandola incluso en las peliculas siempre hay un momento emotivo de ellos dos
So sad that the closest cousins fought against each other......Anglosaxons and Saxons one tribe one legacy.....may all the brave british soldiers rest in peace...with love and respect from.Germany.....😢🇩🇪🌹
No more brother wars
This hits different
...and that was bloody well that.
World War I: When ALL the bandaids holding Europe together got ripped off.
It's a good scene, but the timing is wrong. The cabinet made its decision to declare war at 11pm on August 4th, and the PM announced in the House of Commons the next morning. By the afternoon, when this scene is set, the news had already been spread all over the country.
For someone who speaks her mind, the Dowager Duchess certainly doesn't appreciate it in others.
All I remember hearing about in terms of WW1 was how much of a horrific waste of life it was. The generals were mad, throwing bodies at the problem until it maybe fixed itself, and it all ended the way it should have done from the very beginning, by talking.
This show was amazing to watch.
Don't blame them for fancying Joanne Froggatt, she's gorgeous!
How awful for his lordship to have to make such a terrible announcement at a party!
Everything and I mean everything goes wrong, from this point forward.
And in that single moment, life changed forever for millions of families - both rich and poor. The world would bever be the same again. Insightful directing - as Grantham looks around at the life he knows is going to disappear.
War is the very worst of humanity and a tragedy on a personal level!
Downton Abbey. Thee greatest guilty pleasure for straight males
Great way to spoil the party, Robert.
Those who lived through the first world war are basically thinking "Oh, ffs, not again"
This IS the first world war. The 2nd was not until 1939.
@@Decopainterandtea Yeah I know.
@@nycot107 Ok. Guess I misunderstood your comment. 🙂
"Pooey!"
"Bum."
"Balderdash and big bugger burps, Blackadder."
Why do the staff in Downton Abbey keep their collars up when they've got a tie on? My girlfriend asked me a while back, and I didn't have a clue either
My Grandfather lost his four younger brothers in that horrible war his mother never forgave him, she thought he should have looked after them, ....as if he could!
His mom was crazy...
Oh the War to end All Wars! If only that had been the case!
Ive never seen the show but I know a bit about history. When you look around at all the faces its clear to everyone what is to happen, the sons of the rich would lead the sons of the poor off to fight. In the end no one would be spared.
Somehow I doubt that His Lordship would need to raise his voice very much to silence the crowd, even at a garden party.
There is an historical error here - declaration of war on Germany was not announced in the daytime - Britain officially declared war on Germany at 11.00pm British Time on Tuesday 4th August 1914 when the ultimatum to Germany had expired. So they wouldn't have been in the garden when war was declared. Dramatic license.
Maybe they didn't get the message til the next day.
@@Mark-pp7jy Interesting, as yes Downton Abbey was in a country location, but surely the message would have arrived at breakfast time, and not wait until the afternoon. So I say a bit of dramatic license used here.
I’ve not seen this scene since it was originally on, and having watched the parody of it, I think called Upstairs Downstairs Abbey or something similar. The ending of this clip made me giggle, with all the dramatic faces while the music swells. The parody got it spot on.
Will there be or is there a season 7??? I really really hope so!
There’s no official announcement of a season 7 for Downton Abbey but I really hope we do get another season or at least get another series following the next generation.
@@minniemcgonagall139In my honest opinion, I don't believe we'll see a season 7. Possibly another movie that's either a prequel or showcasing Master George, Mistress Marigold, Miss Sybiee engulfed in the ravages of WWII. The prequel would highlight the life and times of a young Lady Violet, just before/right when she marries Lord Grantham. Her early years during her time in the South of France and in Russia. There's fandom talk that the script is already written, only time will tell.
Why did Mary refuse Matthew at first (here)? She seems to care a lot…?
It's been a while since I saw the show, but if memory serves, her mother found out she was pregnant, and if the baby was a boy, it would have meant that Downton would eventually be inherited by him instead of Matthew, who was currently the heir presumptive, so to speak. While her grandmother was urging Mary to accept Matthew's proposal regardless of how his future was in question, her aunt convinced her that it was better to wait until they knew for sure what the baby's gender would be. Sadly, it didn't really matter in the end because the mother ended up losing the baby, but Matthew was understandably upset how Mary was holding out on giving her answer until they knew for sure whether or not Matthew would inherit Downton or not
Watch all the episodes of the series.
Edwardians would not have stood around in shock at the announcement of war, it was all everyone was talking about at the time, and everyone was waiting with baited breath; and the announcement unfortunately excited the average Briton.
And the declaration was not confirmed until 11.00pm on the night of the 4th August 1914 and not during the daytime hours
I might have to actually work? Omg no!
"We are at war with Germany"
"Oh... That's most unfortunate"
"Indeed, quite unpleasant".
We’re can I watch this?
*Where*
Amazon Prime
They never got rid of Thompson 🤣😆
It was worse than they realized.
In 1914 they had no idea what they were getting into
Shocking twist to end the season one
Yes, completely unexpected development for a show set, at this point, in late summer 1914.
@@avak1968 lol
Not shocking so much as the inevitability of dread. It's much the way the show started because as a student of history I had a strong inclination of what was in that very first telegram the moment I saw the shock on the lady's face at the telegraph office.
I knew the moment that Carson brought that tray to his lordship what it was and had been expecting it for some little time before he arrived. Doesn't mean it didn't still hit like an emotional hammer. That's the thing about Downton most of the plot twists are seen coming well before they happen but that doesn't mean they don't have emotional impact. In fact that they can do such a thing without the need to subvert expectations or shock the audience the way a show like Game of Thrones does is the mark of extremely well written historical drama IMO.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 well said
They mostly seem quite dim (except the Dowager). Not how you sustain a great estate!
“I went out and announced that we were at war with Germany and everyone gasped and looked deeply troubled by all the horrible things that were to come….”
Except they didn’t beacuse it was 1914 and they couldn’t predict the fucking future!