Now for the hardest pieces that sound like actual feces: Barlow Cogluotobusletismesi Barrett Tract Bussotti Pour Clavier Cage Etudes Australes Cognizetti Pentaphonic Etude Diaz-Infante Solus Finnissy all.fall.down. Finnissy Solo Concerto No. 4 Flynn Trinity Fox Twenty-Four Etudes Fox Sonata No. 2 Hoban When the Panting Starts Martino Pianississimo Rzewski "The Road" Scelsi Action Music Skalkottas 32 Piano Pieces Sorabji Sequentia Cyclica Super "Dies Irae" ex Missa pro Defunctis Sorabji Sonata No. 5 "Opus Archimagicum" Sorabji Symphonic Variations Stockhausen Klavierstucke X Xenakis Evryali Xenakis Sieben Klavierstucke Xenakis Synaphai Yim :[ten]dril Zimmermann Wunsterwanderung
I can not find any references on the internet to the existence of Fox, Cognizetti and Yim. Also, there was no listing of Xenakis's Sieben Klavierstucke in his list of published works.
there isnt really a "hardest/difficult" piano piece, but in terms of technical difficulty these are incredibly challenging. in any case, nice list -- and its nice to see alkan and mereaux on it
Watch my versio 2.0 of this video, it's my latest upload, I researched more for it and I think it's a better list, anyways, I agree, I showed this to my teacher and he was questioning why there wasn't any Chopin pieces because well, they aren't as technically difficult as these, but they're hard to play WELL, because of all the nuances within it. So I agree.
@@morganmartinez8420 hardest PLAYED piece is surely the 8 hour and thirty minutes long Seqeunza Cyclica sopra Dies Irae by Sorabji played brilliantly by Powell
0:05 Franz Liszt - Rondo Fantastique "El Contrabandista" 0:57 Alkan - Allegretto alla barbaresca 1:58 Liszt - Etude d' Éxecution trascendante "Original Campanella etude" 3:07 Mereaux - No.24 "Bravura" from 60 etudes 4:20 Liszt - Grande fantaisie de bravoure sur la Clochette 6:05 Hamelin - Etude n.4 D' Áprès Alkan
My thoughts on the video: On Alkan honestly I think his hardest or one of them is op 39 no 1, comme le vent. Has very weird technique at extreme speeds I haven't seen many reach. Glad you used Liszt S 140 instead of the simplified versions :) On Mereaux, I'm quite a fan of him and I did a lot of research on his music. I'd say Bravura deserves to be on the top 3, not the scherzo 45. I'll talk more on that later. On la clochette I just want to note that this midi had some extra octaves that makes it impossible at some points. Hamelin etudes are pretty hard. I love how in that one he mixed a bunch of alkan pieces and it all made sense! On Le Preux a virtuoso(Arthur Cimirro, who is also recording Méreaux complete 60 etudes!) said that he doesn't get impressed with Alkan that much, mainly because sometimes people exagerate the speeds. He said "(Several people claim the difficulties of playing some Alkan pieces in the “right tempo” and it seems they never checked the real “right tempo” as written in the score - for example, as in “Le Preux”, where “dans un bon mouvement” and “carrément” do not means “presto” in any sense!) " On honorable mentions you put Don Juan. That remembers me of the tons of transcriptions Liszt made that could possible get in there. Alkan le chemin de fer pretty hard as well. One pianist said that chopin prelude 16 is almost just as hard. Alkan scherzo I have seen some saying it is one of the easiest out of op 39. Honestly I agree, many of the pieces you put before it could easily get its place. Ah Mereaux 45, here we go. So the thing is Méreaux gave it no tempo marking, the MIDI always exaggerate on that. The marking is "Vivacetto", which could mean 2 things: Either as fast as possible(seems like this meaning of vivacetto was lost) or just somewhat lively. But in any case there is a pianist who played it very well. His channel here: th-cam.com/channels/ZegvLktzFN-QRnibDS6NzQ.html I would say that Méreaux 24, 15, 20, 60, 37, 58 and probably some others are harder than 45. And finally in top 1 the typical etude 4. Its the same thing as méreaux 45. Liszt gave no tempo marking, MIDI and synthesia "tutorials" exaggerate it to an extreme. The only tempo marking for it was by an editor, which is iirc about just 5% faster than petrov playing, so its completely doable. Btw just a curiosity: Did you know méreaux actually composed not only 60, but 97 etudes? 60 on his op 63, on a later opus he made a Romance etude and iirc his opus 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119 are each one of them a bundle of 6 etudes composed in a specific style. I can only hope one day we will have the sheets for them :/ Currently there isn't, they are all just sitting there in a library in france. After all I think its very hard to choose the hardest pieces, there are too many pieces that are very hard each one with their own difficulties.
I wholeheartedly agree, this list was made with only the pieces that I knew, so most would be left out, I'm very glad you pointed out some pieces that are new to me, it's always fun to discover new music, thank you very much for your opinion.
@Qafar Quluzade I'm quite a fan of seeing music in tempo and I'm yet to see a good recording of comme le vent played at the horribly fast tempo, perhaps you know one.
YEAH, COMME LE VENT HAS THIS FURIOUS TEMPO, AND KIND OF AN ANNOYING MELODY THT SAYS; CATCH ME IF U CAN SUCKERRRR!!!! THT ONLY ALKAN COULD VE CREATE TO PISS OFF THOSE WHO THOUGHT IT WAS "EASY" NO.1 IN THE OP.39....NONE OF THE PIECES ARE EASY IN THT SET TO PUT IT MILDLY. IT'S LIKE ALKAN'S MISANTHROPIC NATURE UNVEILS ITSELF, SAYING, IF U CAN FOLLOW THE TEMPO AND PLAY COMME LE VENT, WELL THEN U ARE WORTHY ON TAKING ON THE REST O' THE SET SO TO SPEAK.
As someone who has played both Le Preux and Scherzo Diabolico, I have to say Le Preux is by far more difficult. Playing the whole piece at midi speed is a workout and near impossible to hit every correct key. When learning Scherzo Diabolico after I learned Le Preux it was very noticeably easier and only took me a few days to play the most difficult section, while learning the Le Preux octaves took several months.
This list is nice but you could better up top 3. 1) Le Preux and Solo Piano Concerto are generally accepted to be harder than Scherzo Diabolico (Solo Piano Concerto being the hardest). 2) The 1838 version of the Paganini Etude isn't the hardest piece ever written, it isn't, in fact, even Liszt's hardest (the true hardest piece being Beethoven/Liszt 9th symphony transcription). 3) Amédee Mereaux's 45th Etude doesn't deserve it's ranking, but it's harder than Le Preux though...there's no specific metronome for the piece so it can be played at the fastest pace one can play it at. Playing it at MIDI's speed is neither possible nor plausible. Same applies to S.140/4b. Otherwise, very good list! :)
Those massive chords in the s140 no. 4 etude makes me wonder if Liszt even had to jump in La Campanella (the popular one) considering he can reach those massive chords
@ENESCU GAY well wtf i should make a real top 10, but if i do a new piece by qkfbwksjf will be found that is so hard and whatever so i never do these lists, only in my head
i also think tht NICOLAI MEDTNER with his 14 SONATAS absolutely should be included, at least his MONUMENTAL NIGHTWIND SONATA OP. 25 NO.2 AT 30 MIN + , AND IT TAXES TO THE FULL THE PERFORMERS SKILLS THROUGHOUT ALL MOVMENTS...
i was gonna learn all of these but is the hamelin etude even possible with 2 hands i guess ill put my progress here 30th aug 2022 i have been playing piano for 8 months, maybe even less than that because i started playing seriously like 3 months ago keep in mind that ill learn honorable mentions aswell currently learning scarbo im using my reference for scarbo with rousseaus video ive learnt the first 2 minutes of scarbo somewhere in between October-november: got some good progress and stopped scarbo started learning mereaux-bravura somewhere in November: good progress on bravura uploaded a video 10th of Dec: I think bravura is easier than scarbo I mean, the technique is pretty difficult, but scarbo is literally like 9 mins of pain 6th of February: Broke my thumb nail while playing mereaux - bravura 8th of February: bravura became way easier, i think I'm about 70% done. also I started le chemin de fer and about 30% done with it. but I'm getting pretty demotivated more than a year later (june 1st): i’m back! i started learning no.9 (allegretto alla barbaresca) it’s probably gonna be done in a month or so.
If you are playing piano for 8 months, you shouldn't learn those pieces. 1. You will propably develop metacarpal problems 2. Dont learn with that synesthesia videos
@@Medtszkowskiits not a crap, everyone has a different musical taste, but its true. That it shouldnt be said that its the hardest, because it wasnt designed for being the hardest, and everyone can make that, but making the hardest piece in the form or art is really different.
@@Medtszkowski yes, its not meant to be played exatly as its written, because in modern music, there are no rules I am trying to say that its not the hardest piece, but its also not a crap
GORAN FILIPEC has a recording on TH-cam for Naxos. Liszten to that before you throw around “impossible”. It isn’t at the ridiculous Vivo tempo of the MIDIs, but it’s much faster than Petrov’s recording, and far more musical
Qafar Quluzade Look. It is Liszt’s Etude d’execution Transcendente d’apres Paganini No 4b, “Arpeggio”, S.140/4b from 1838. It is NOT the revised Grand Etudes a’pres Paganini No 4, “Arpeggio”, S.141/4 from 1851. Goran Filipec has recorded the famous “iMpOsSiBlE” first version of the etude. And he has also recorded the 4a version too. If you are so bothered and don’t just want to be a dick on TH-cam, buy the CD from Naxos and listen yourself. Or move to Uk and listen to it for free. No? Thought not. :)
That is the second version of La Campanella. The first version is in the top too. Unfortunaly those version do not get that much recgonition as the third version, which is the most famous one(and easier one)
Actually this is the fourth version of the campanella. The first version is called: "grande fantaisie de bravoure sur la clochette(4:20)" and appears in this video. The second and third version are called: "variation de bravoure sur des themes de paganini s. 700" and "grande fantasie sur des themes de paganini s. 700" They are by far the most difficult versions of the campanella but at the same time the most unknown, so it is possible that the creator of the video does not know of their existence The fourth version is the one that you are mentioning in this comment and finally the fifth is the most famous and played by many youtubers, but the easiest of all
But for difficulty in rhythmic interpretation, it is 2nd movement of Ravel piano concerto (2 hands), and best are by Nicole Henriot (Henriot-Schweitzer).
Well you cant really say that this or this piece is the hardest. There are so much hard pieces that no one talks about like Sherzo alla Napolanita by Mereaux or Galopp in a minor by Liszt and so on…
@Qafar Quluzade I think op. 365 No. 18 just makes your fingers 'hurt' Its hard, but it's just not suitable for the list It may be suitable for 'pieces that is uncomfortable to play'
Didn't know about that one, I made this list with only the pieces I knew at the time plus a few more I researched. Looking at it, that's a pretty impressive piece. I wanted to remake this list because I think le preux should be higher and napolitana should be 1st. If I were to put this piece on the list I'd probably put it lower than le preux for sure, but damn it sounds really good.
İt is very hard too. İt is harder than le preux and almost as scherzo etude Edit: or even harder than scherzo i just watched the whole song and it is incredibly difficult İt is solo but even with duet it is hard as hell
@Qafar Quluzade ok, I know that people don't fancy the piece that I'm gonna talk about much(And I don't particularly like it either), but based on sheer difficulty, doesn't sorabji's OC (opus clavicembalisticum) and symphonic variations beat everything. Although I can see why you shouldn't really include it in the list.
@@inuush also would like to add that the tempo for the number 1 spot is just unreasonable. I have a book of the 6 s140 etudes and I can tell you that it definitely isn't prestissimo xd
7:46 le Preux is probably the hardest because no one on earth played it properly and at marked tempo while I heard some play Liszt Transandantal Pagani number 4 like Nicolai Petrov.
Try to search "Seon-Yong Hwang Le Preux", he plays it almost perfectly. Oh and Petrov plays No. 4b like 5 bpm slower in the easier part and like 10 bpm slower in the harder part.
@@jonathanferiza8966 Check Michael nanasakov le Preux for the correct tempo. No offense but Seon didn’t play it verry well, unbalanced tempo and voluntary missing notes to make it easier.
All of this sounds like garbage: Barlow Cogluotobusletismesi Barrett Tract Bussotti Pour Clavier Cage Etudes Australes Cognizetti Pentaphonic Etude Diaz-Infante Solus Finnissy all.fall.down. Finnissy Solo Concerto No. 4 Flynn Trinity Fox Twenty-Four Etudes Fox Sonata No. 2 Hoban When the Panting Starts Martino Pianississimo Rzewski "The Road" Scelsi Action Music Skalkottas 32 Piano Pieces Sorabji Sequentia Cyclica Super "Dies Irae" ex Missa pro Defunctis Sorabji Sonata No. 5 "Opus Archimagicum" Sorabji Symphonic Variations Stockhausen Klavierstucke X Xenakis Evryali Xenakis Sieben Klavierstucke Xenakis Synaphai Yim :[ten]dril Zimmermann Wunsterwanderung
@@inuush Keep on practising! Your practise will only continue for you to reap the benefits. Don't forget that you are amazingly talented. (Here's a tip on motivating yourself, stop watching younger virtuosos. It will only make you more depressed). All the best!
Só queria que desse pra editar vídeo depois que já foi postado, queria trocar o primeiro pra segundo, o segundo pra primeiro e o quarto por terceiro e o terceiro pro quarto.
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Now for the hardest pieces that sound like actual feces:
Barlow Cogluotobusletismesi
Barrett Tract
Bussotti Pour Clavier
Cage Etudes Australes
Cognizetti Pentaphonic Etude
Diaz-Infante Solus
Finnissy all.fall.down.
Finnissy Solo Concerto No. 4
Flynn Trinity
Fox Twenty-Four Etudes
Fox Sonata No. 2
Hoban When the Panting Starts
Martino Pianississimo
Rzewski "The Road"
Scelsi Action Music
Skalkottas 32 Piano Pieces
Sorabji Sequentia Cyclica Super "Dies Irae" ex Missa pro Defunctis
Sorabji Sonata No. 5 "Opus Archimagicum"
Sorabji Symphonic Variations
Stockhausen Klavierstucke X
Xenakis Evryali
Xenakis Sieben Klavierstucke
Xenakis Synaphai
Yim :[ten]dril
Zimmermann Wunsterwanderung
God bles you man. Hard pieces, but terrible...😂😂
@@Lordversus44 yes lol
I can not find any references on the internet to the existence of Fox, Cognizetti and Yim. Also, there was no listing of Xenakis's Sieben Klavierstucke in his list of published works.
@@dzordzszs idk where else you could look. Unless you like send the composer an email
@@Medtszkowski Nvm I had the wrong Zimmermann but I am pretty sure the original creator made some errors
there isnt really a "hardest/difficult" piano piece, but in terms of technical difficulty these are incredibly challenging. in any case, nice list -- and its nice to see alkan and mereaux on it
Watch my versio 2.0 of this video, it's my latest upload, I researched more for it and I think it's a better list, anyways, I agree, I showed this to my teacher and he was questioning why there wasn't any Chopin pieces because well, they aren't as technically difficult as these, but they're hard to play WELL, because of all the nuances within it. So I agree.
YAH MAN! THE LISZT IS GOOD, ALKAN'S SHERZO FOCOSO SHOULDVE BEEN HERE TOO
The hardest piano piece to my knowledge is Sorabji's piano sonata n. 5
@@morganmartinez8420 hardest PLAYED piece is surely the 8 hour and thirty minutes long Seqeunza Cyclica sopra Dies Irae by Sorabji played brilliantly by Powell
talking about difficult pieces i think on one of the most hardest is the 3rd movement of the rachmaninoff concerto no.3
Isn’t it funny that La Clochette (S. 420) starts at 4:20 in the video? I’m probably the only one who noticed that 😂
Nice List!
Franz Liszt nice liszt
@@yeetsong pghk! Nice!!
You mean liszt?
Nice we
oops you had a mistake It's Nice Liszt not Nice List!
nice list thanks for not putting in the flight of the bumblebee
Or the 3rd movement of moonlight sonata
finally an ACTUALL "hardest piano pieces" list that is not a list full of overplayed pieces
lA cAmpAnElla HardESR PianO sOnG.
@@jessicaeskebk5945 ikr
No
@@redfishplayz4476 it’s painful
@@jessicaeskebk5945 la Campanella is a very good exercise But its Not that "finger-shredding" or strong mentaly Expressive
@@redfishplayz4476 yeah. It’s overrated in the “hardest pieces” category
0:05 Franz Liszt - Rondo Fantastique "El Contrabandista"
0:57 Alkan - Allegretto alla barbaresca
1:58 Liszt - Etude d' Éxecution trascendante "Original Campanella etude"
3:07 Mereaux - No.24 "Bravura" from 60 etudes
4:20 Liszt - Grande fantaisie de bravoure sur la Clochette
6:05 Hamelin - Etude n.4 D' Áprès Alkan
Isn’t it funny that La Clochette (S. 420) starts at 4:20 in the video? I’m probably the only one who noticed that 😂
My thoughts on the video:
On Alkan honestly I think his hardest or one of them is op 39 no 1, comme le vent. Has very weird technique at extreme speeds I haven't seen many reach.
Glad you used Liszt S 140 instead of the simplified versions :)
On Mereaux, I'm quite a fan of him and I did a lot of research on his music. I'd say Bravura deserves to be on the top 3, not the scherzo 45. I'll talk more on that later.
On la clochette I just want to note that this midi had some extra octaves that makes it impossible at some points.
Hamelin etudes are pretty hard. I love how in that one he mixed a bunch of alkan pieces and it all made sense!
On Le Preux a virtuoso(Arthur Cimirro, who is also recording Méreaux complete 60 etudes!) said that he doesn't get impressed with Alkan that much, mainly because sometimes people exagerate the speeds. He said "(Several people claim the difficulties of playing some Alkan pieces in the “right tempo” and it seems they never checked the real “right tempo” as written in the score - for example, as in “Le Preux”, where “dans un bon mouvement” and “carrément” do not means “presto” in any sense!) "
On honorable mentions you put Don Juan. That remembers me of the tons of transcriptions Liszt made that could possible get in there.
Alkan le chemin de fer pretty hard as well. One pianist said that chopin prelude 16 is almost just as hard.
Alkan scherzo I have seen some saying it is one of the easiest out of op 39. Honestly I agree, many of the pieces you put before it could easily get its place.
Ah Mereaux 45, here we go. So the thing is Méreaux gave it no tempo marking, the MIDI always exaggerate on that. The marking is "Vivacetto", which could mean 2 things: Either as fast as possible(seems like this meaning of vivacetto was lost) or just somewhat lively. But in any case there is a pianist who played it very well. His channel here: th-cam.com/channels/ZegvLktzFN-QRnibDS6NzQ.html
I would say that Méreaux 24, 15, 20, 60, 37, 58 and probably some others are harder than 45.
And finally in top 1 the typical etude 4. Its the same thing as méreaux 45. Liszt gave no tempo marking, MIDI and synthesia "tutorials" exaggerate it to an extreme. The only tempo marking for it was by an editor, which is iirc about just 5% faster than petrov playing, so its completely doable.
Btw just a curiosity: Did you know méreaux actually composed not only 60, but 97 etudes? 60 on his op 63, on a later opus he made a Romance etude and iirc his opus 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119 are each one of them a bundle of 6 etudes composed in a specific style. I can only hope one day we will have the sheets for them :/ Currently there isn't, they are all just sitting there in a library in france.
After all I think its very hard to choose the hardest pieces, there are too many pieces that are very hard each one with their own difficulties.
I wholeheartedly agree, this list was made with only the pieces that I knew, so most would be left out, I'm very glad you pointed out some pieces that are new to me, it's always fun to discover new music, thank you very much for your opinion.
@@inuush Thx. It was a nice video after all.
@Qafar Quluzade I'm quite a fan of seeing music in tempo and I'm yet to see a good recording of comme le vent played at the horribly fast tempo, perhaps you know one.
YEAH, COMME LE VENT HAS THIS FURIOUS TEMPO, AND KIND OF AN ANNOYING MELODY THT SAYS; CATCH ME IF U CAN SUCKERRRR!!!! THT ONLY ALKAN COULD VE CREATE TO PISS OFF THOSE WHO THOUGHT IT WAS "EASY" NO.1 IN THE OP.39....NONE OF THE PIECES ARE EASY IN THT SET TO PUT IT MILDLY. IT'S LIKE ALKAN'S MISANTHROPIC NATURE UNVEILS ITSELF, SAYING, IF U CAN FOLLOW THE TEMPO AND PLAY COMME LE VENT, WELL THEN U ARE WORTHY ON TAKING ON THE REST O' THE SET SO TO SPEAK.
@@pawncube2050 i mean, the great Maltempo playes it very well
Damn, when it started on El Contrabandista...
its always nice to see la campanella excluded from the list
th-cam.com/video/E-CPbbDOrH0/w-d-xo.html
@@teacoffee42 yeah the latest version is always more well known
@@yorkzie7593 tru
1:58 and 4:20 hello
WHEN RONDO FANTASTIQUE IS 10th THE LIST WILL BE HARDER
Ah I see you here too XD
Bom dia
IN MY OPINION i think tht ALKAN'S LE CHEMIN DE FER on MIDI actually sounded very good and crisp.....in contrary to other pieces on MIDI
As someone who has played both Le Preux and Scherzo Diabolico, I have to say Le Preux is by far more difficult. Playing the whole piece at midi speed is a workout and near impossible to hit every correct key. When learning Scherzo Diabolico after I learned Le Preux it was very noticeably easier and only took me a few days to play the most difficult section, while learning the Le Preux octaves took several months.
This list is nice but you could better up top 3.
1) Le Preux and Solo Piano Concerto are generally accepted to be harder than Scherzo Diabolico (Solo Piano Concerto being the hardest).
2) The 1838 version of the Paganini Etude isn't the hardest piece ever written, it isn't, in fact, even Liszt's hardest (the true hardest piece being Beethoven/Liszt 9th symphony transcription).
3) Amédee Mereaux's 45th Etude doesn't deserve it's ranking, but it's harder than Le Preux though...there's no specific metronome for the piece so it can be played at the fastest pace one can play it at. Playing it at MIDI's speed is neither possible nor plausible. Same applies to S.140/4b.
Otherwise, very good list! :)
Those massive chords in the s140 no. 4 etude makes me wonder if Liszt even had to jump in La Campanella (the popular one) considering he can reach those massive chords
Ikr, the freaking double octave!!1!1
the hardest piece is Rondo Fantastique, because this piece was composed to be played in approximately 8-9 minutes.
Yes
Liszt, Alkan, Liszt, Alkan, Liszt, Alkan, Liszt, Ravel, Alkan, Hamelin, Mércaux, Liszt 😁
Simply Liszt
Lucrèce Borgia > Don Juan
finally, an legit video
Gottschalk was my uncle yh, there’s gotta be a lot more of Alkan and Liszt imo
@ENESCU GAY well wtf i should make a real top 10, but if i do a new piece by qkfbwksjf will be found that is so hard and whatever so i never do these lists, only in my head
@ENESCU GAY if you do i can give the midi of the fugue from the Sorabji fantasia Cromatica... Totally impossible xD (on my channel)
@@AsrielKujo lo wut
i also think tht NICOLAI MEDTNER with his 14 SONATAS absolutely should be included, at least his MONUMENTAL NIGHTWIND SONATA OP. 25 NO.2 AT 30 MIN + , AND IT TAXES TO THE FULL THE PERFORMERS SKILLS THROUGHOUT ALL MOVMENTS...
i was gonna learn all of these but is the hamelin etude even possible with 2 hands
i guess ill put my progress here
30th aug 2022
i have been playing piano for 8 months, maybe even less than that because i started playing seriously like 3 months ago
keep in mind that ill learn honorable mentions aswell
currently learning scarbo
im using my reference for scarbo with rousseaus video
ive learnt the first 2 minutes of scarbo
somewhere in between October-november:
got some good progress and stopped scarbo
started learning mereaux-bravura
somewhere in November:
good progress on bravura
uploaded a video
10th of Dec:
I think bravura is easier than scarbo
I mean, the technique is pretty difficult, but scarbo is literally like 9 mins of pain
6th of February:
Broke my thumb nail while playing mereaux - bravura
8th of February:
bravura became way easier, i think I'm about 70% done.
also I started le chemin de fer and about 30% done with it.
but I'm getting pretty demotivated
more than a year later (june 1st):
i’m back! i started learning no.9 (allegretto alla barbaresca)
it’s probably gonna be done in a month or so.
If you are playing piano for 8 months, you shouldn't learn those pieces.
1. You will propably develop metacarpal problems
2. Dont learn with that synesthesia videos
@@duryi6399i took a break to catch up
@@duryi6399ok i’m back
3:07
How much hand crossing and staccato with chords did Mereaux made in Etude op 63 no 24???
Cuz that guy is a beast at piano
His yt channel is Barbaro mr
The whole piece
What about every single sorabji an Mereaux piece?
Lol hi
@Mathews helloo
@Mathews196 h
Nice Lis(z)t
1. Liszt - Etude 4 1838
2. Liszt - Etude 6 1838
3. Liszt - La clochette
4. Mereaux - Etude 45
5. Liszt - Spanish Fantasy
6. Liszt - Reminiscences de Norma
7. Xenakis - Mists
8. Xenakis - Evryali
9. Liszt - Etude 3 1838
10. Brahms - Paganini Variations
11. Liszt - Romancero Espagnol
12. Alkan - Piano Concerto
13. Rachmaninoff - Piano Concerto 3 1st mvt
14. Liszt - Rondo Fantastique
15. Liszt - Spanish Rhapsody
16. Liszt - Niobe Fantasy
WHAT?!
Bruh you have got literally the rach concerto in ur liszt i cant take you serious
@@luis_lng lmao
I like how you have Xenakis in your list but he is somehow in no 7 and 8
Etude 4 1838 at Liszt version and tempo is impossible.
The most difficult peice must have hard techniques and good melody
@@Medtszkowskiits not a crap, everyone has a different musical taste, but its true. That it shouldnt be said that its the hardest, because it wasnt designed for being the hardest, and everyone can make that, but making the hardest piece in the form or art is really different.
@@duryi6399 It’s easy to write something extremely difficult when you literally write against the piano
@@Medtszkowski yes, its not meant to be played exatly as its written, because in modern music, there are no rules
I am trying to say that its not the hardest piece, but its also not a crap
@@duryi6399 my ear is ignorant in contemporary music, so I really just don’t understand it.
@@Medtszkowski i understand, I was also like this when i fearst heard it
These pieces are difficult but definitely not the most difficult.
14:07 i expect this before watching video lmao
GORAN FILIPEC has a recording on TH-cam for Naxos. Liszten to that before you throw around “impossible”. It isn’t at the ridiculous Vivo tempo of the MIDIs, but it’s much faster than Petrov’s recording, and far more musical
Qafar Quluzade Listen to Filipec’s recording anyway
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Qafar Quluzade 1) It is available in UK where I live 2) IT IS THE 1838 S.140/4b ETUDE YOU MORON. :)
Qafar Quluzade Look. It is Liszt’s Etude d’execution Transcendente d’apres Paganini No 4b, “Arpeggio”, S.140/4b from 1838. It is NOT the revised Grand Etudes a’pres Paganini No 4, “Arpeggio”, S.141/4 from 1851. Goran Filipec has recorded the famous “iMpOsSiBlE” first version of the etude. And he has also recorded the 4a version too. If you are so bothered and don’t just want to be a dick on TH-cam, buy the CD from Naxos and listen yourself. Or move to Uk and listen to it for free. No? Thought not. :)
2:00 Wait, this is really La Campanella? Is it any arrangement?
That is the second version of La Campanella. The first version is in the top too. Unfortunaly those version do not get that much recgonition as the third version, which is the most famous one(and easier one)
Actually this is the fourth version of the campanella. The first version is called: "grande fantaisie de bravoure sur la clochette(4:20)" and appears in this video.
The second and third version are called:
"variation de bravoure sur des themes de paganini s. 700" and "grande fantasie sur des themes de paganini s. 700"
They are by far the most difficult versions of the campanella but at the same time the most unknown, so it is possible that the creator of the video does not know of their existence
The fourth version is the one that you are mentioning in this comment and finally the fifth is the most famous and played by many youtubers, but the easiest of all
@@DATCMN i never heard of the middle two
@@ryzikx lol
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hamelin etude? what?
But for difficulty in rhythmic interpretation, it is 2nd movement of Ravel piano concerto (2 hands), and best are by Nicole Henriot (Henriot-Schweitzer).
Well you cant really say that this or this piece is the hardest. There are so much hard pieces that no one talks about like Sherzo alla Napolanita by Mereaux or Galopp in a minor by Liszt and so on…
What about Czerny Op. 365 Etude 2? Also, please make a part 2
Yeah that's really insane, I'll do some more research before making part 2.
@Qafar Quluzade I think op. 365 No. 18 just makes your fingers 'hurt'
Its hard, but it's just not suitable for the list
It may be suitable for 'pieces that is uncomfortable to play'
Xenakis Herma
Tbh etude no.4's difficulty is suuuper overestimated in my opinion. I'd say it's easier than el Contrabandista
Yea, i think feux follets as technique is harder
@@AsrielKujo I think it's really close between these too, yeah
@@tomasjosefpiano8902 maybe at a slower speed it could be comparable to mazeppa
@@AsrielKujo YES
Only Liszt was able to play it at normal tempo. No one for hundreds has been able to play the piece properly. It’s the hardest.
nice liszt!
a hectic day number 1 2 le preux3 godowsky etude 10 no 3/ 10 no1/ study 47 combined etudes. this my top 3 different composers
Bruh where ravel and rachmaninoff balakirev.
So OG Campanella hmm nice choice
Rachmaninoff Sonata No.2 1913 Version and Godowsky Passacaglia are harder than Gaspare de la Nuit
What about romancero espagnol by Liszt?
Didn't know about that one, I made this list with only the pieces I knew at the time plus a few more I researched.
Looking at it, that's a pretty impressive piece.
I wanted to remake this list because I think le preux should be higher and napolitana should be 1st. If I were to put this piece on the list I'd probably put it lower than le preux for sure, but damn it sounds really good.
@Qafar Quluzade it is not even hardest of Liszt
Liszt has so many pieces like that
@@inuush and spanish fantasy?
İt is very hard too. İt is harder than le preux and almost as scherzo etude
Edit: or even harder than scherzo i just watched the whole song and it is incredibly difficult
İt is solo but even with duet it is hard as hell
@Qafar Quluzade ok, I know that people don't fancy the piece that I'm gonna talk about much(And I don't particularly like it either), but based on sheer difficulty, doesn't sorabji's OC (opus clavicembalisticum) and symphonic variations beat everything. Although I can see why you shouldn't really include it in the list.
S.700a/ii harder than S.140 and S.420
Why I think that Le preux isn't that hard ? I think it's easier then Chopin ballade no.4
I don't know why you guys prefer midi files over real perfromances
Don't worry, I made a second version that has only real performances, I prefer that video but it is less popular.
@@inuush also would like to add that the tempo for the number 1 spot is just unreasonable. I have a book of the 6 s140 etudes and I can tell you that it definitely isn't prestissimo xd
7:46 le Preux is probably the hardest because no one on earth played it properly and at marked tempo while I heard some play Liszt Transandantal Pagani number 4 like Nicolai Petrov.
Try to search "Seon-Yong Hwang Le Preux", he plays it almost perfectly.
Oh and Petrov plays No. 4b like 5 bpm slower in the easier part and like 10 bpm slower in the harder part.
@@jonathanferiza8966 Check Michael nanasakov le Preux for the correct tempo. No offense but Seon didn’t play it verry well, unbalanced tempo and voluntary missing notes to make it easier.
@@timespaice ah yes now that's a good version of it. Still need to find someone that played S.140 no. 4 flawlessly though, cheers.
@@timespaice bruh not many are playing it better than him ._.
@@jonathanferiza8966 Goran Filipec and Elisa tomelinni and Leslie Howard a bit
Xenakis - mists
Hilarious math music
Sorabji etude 99-100, just no... Fucking kill me can a human even play that?
*Ullen playes them* ok fuck me
All of this sounds like garbage:
Barlow Cogluotobusletismesi
Barrett Tract
Bussotti Pour Clavier
Cage Etudes Australes
Cognizetti Pentaphonic Etude
Diaz-Infante Solus
Finnissy all.fall.down.
Finnissy Solo Concerto No. 4
Flynn Trinity
Fox Twenty-Four Etudes
Fox Sonata No. 2
Hoban When the Panting Starts
Martino Pianississimo
Rzewski "The Road"
Scelsi Action Music
Skalkottas 32 Piano Pieces
Sorabji Sequentia Cyclica Super "Dies Irae" ex Missa pro Defunctis
Sorabji Sonata No. 5 "Opus Archimagicum"
Sorabji Symphonic Variations
Stockhausen Klavierstucke X
Xenakis Evryali
Xenakis Sieben Klavierstucke
Xenakis Synaphai
Yim :[ten]dril
Zimmermann Wunsterwanderung
4:15 whats he playing?
Allegreto alà barbaresca Is harder!
we somehow encountered each other here, weird huh?
Liszt- Gallop in a minor should also be here
Yes , indeed
Its too overrated in difficulty, it shouldnt be there
Maybe
@@duryi6399Can you play it?
no, a certain reminiscence makes don juan a piece of easy pie
nice
Wilde jagd☠️💀☠️
S.138
Ez
I dont think you can really put scarbo and don juan in the same category lmao
Sup, I enjoy your content. Do you play piano?
Yep, I'm only a beginner though, but I've been listening to classical piano music for years.
@@inuush Keep on practising! Your practise will only continue for you to reap the benefits. Don't forget that you are amazingly talented. (Here's a tip on motivating yourself, stop watching younger virtuosos. It will only make you more depressed). All the best!
13:50 O_O Um WHAT
who was the guy playing in most of the vids??
Barbaro Mr.
@@inuush hes really good, has he ever joined competitions??
Lizst - s.218 Galop A minor is surely the most difficult piece by him, i mean, with the correct tempo it's incredibly difficult
lucrezia borgia?
well ig cziffras version at correc tempo can make it in this list
@@thenotsogoodpianist4706 its not the grand galop its a different piece cziffra never played it
Only considering galops, I deem Galop in a minor easier than Grand Galop Chromatique(S.219).
@@19thCenturyGuy nah man
famosin
Só queria que desse pra editar vídeo depois que já foi postado, queria trocar o primeiro pra segundo, o segundo pra primeiro e o quarto por terceiro e o terceiro pro quarto.
@@inuush eu vi a resenha ali embaixo
@@inuush br? lgl
Hmmm no Chopin etudes?
Chopin etudes are NOWHERE as difficult as those
Chopin won't be in the Liszt.
What about mazeppa by liszt?
Nothing compared to any of the pieces in the video
Nothing comparing to any Alkan Etude
Ez
La campanella ?
the previous versions of la campanella (which are much harder), the one you hear nowadays is the simplified or arranged version from Liszt.
1:58 and 4:20
9:44
13:44 LittleHands liked it.
bullying xD
ay no islamey?
All these are still far from top most difficult. Where are Sorabji Ligeti and Messiaen?
Yeahhh, Bravura more harder then Le Preux
@Qafar Quluzade Le Preux very overoverrated piece, this not difficult as it seems
@Qafar Quluzade Scherzo Focoso ? Yeah, of course! 100 times harder then Le Preux
@Qafar Quluzade what do you mean
@Qafar Quluzade Le Preux ending is only fast octaves, every skill pianist can play this easily
@Qafar Quluzade i can perfectly sead reading, what do you want, i can sead read Gaspard de la Nuit, which i played
Nice list, but for me F.Liszt can' t be on 1st place. I think on 1st place have to be only Alkan' s piece "Les preux" or maybe grande sonate