Man the way you tell the stories is crazy. I remember probably 80% of every video. Some bits and pieces get lost in the fray, but you honestly make these people known. They aren't just victims in your stories, but real people that went through horrible things. Thank you! But that poor like button..
What about the one video. I need help. What’s the one video where a guy has a fake life in his head after getting hit in the head at a football game? I’ve been dying to hear it again.
The fact that you're a hand talker, that you label when the photos are real, and do conversions for us (miles to kilometers) everything you do is the best
His girlfriend and two children, their angel was working overtime, twice he wanted to kill them. This guy in Florida be friended this lady with two school girl, she ended up having relationship with this dude, the girls trusted him, one day he picks them up from school to told the girls, their can't do it and asked him to pick them up, once they were home, he raped the girls and killed them hide them in the attick, but the blood started to drift down the wall. Be careful trusting any sweet talking devils. Poor ladies! They're in Heaven!! 💟☮️
@@ryveralexander8511 Nah fuck those angels, where were they for the other innocent family that was brutally raped and murdered? Your God and heaven do not exist. This is demonstrated in nature and our universe alone, but you acting like "angels" protected some woman and her children is just sick and borderline disturbing. What a twisted way to look at beautiful life
Steven, Cary's brother, was an amazing person and had the empathy his brother completely lacked. He was abducted and held for 7 years being constantly raped and assaulted. It wasn't until the kidnapper brought in another little boy he just abducted that Steven knew he had to escape with the boy. He didn't want this little boy to go through the absolute hell he had gone through. He had given up when it was just him, but was so selfless and caring that the only reason he took action was to save someone else.
SO SAD THAT IT TOOK ANOTHER BOY TO BE TAKEN FOR HIM TO GET THE STRENGTH TO FIGHT. HE LOST ALL HOPE FOR HIMSELF. THAT IS A VERY SAD AND SCARY THOUGHT. MY HEART GOES OUT TO HIM...
Imagine you're hanging out with your partner, when they randomly get mad and leave. Later, you find out that they were mad because they wanted to kill you but couldn't because the gardener was around...
Right. I was thinking the same thing. What it must've been like to find out that this man was going to kill you and your daughters but the gardener saved you once and his foolish mistake saved you the second time.
Moral of the story: If somebody knocks on your room at night or any other time of the day and introduces himself or herself as working for the hotel, dont trust that stranger even if he/she looks like one. Instead, call the front desk and confirm if they did sent somebody.
But if it had been me I'd be dead because if he had identified himself as Cary Stayner I'd have let him in no questions asked for I would have remembered him from the reports and movie about his brother and would have believed I had nothing to fear. He was the last person I would have thought who'd do something like this.
I never would have let him in the room without calling the front desk. Moral of the story, don't let any random guy walk up to you if you're in a vulnerable position where no one's around
@@Kit1128 … and jamb a chair under the doorknob… The Sequoia Lodge is a well known landmark outside of Yosemite… know it well. Never stopped there an prolly Never Will. 💔💔💔💔…
Employees at hotels usually must wear a name tag. Why didnt these women notice this? Hell i worked part time at a nursing home and all employees were required to wear them at all times at work. If we'd forget our name tags we were told to go home and get them.
Imagine being his girlfriend and finding out how close you and your kids came to being killed, by the man you loved and trusted, twice!! I feel so bad for all of his victims. What a nasty piece of work.
I drove alone from Washington state to California and I had a creepy experience. I stayed at a motel in one of those small towns by the 5 fwy. For some crazy reason my motel key card kept malfunctioning. So I kept going back to the front desk. Finally, the guy in the front desk was asking me if he could come over to my room to “fix” the card. I declined politely and stayed in my room the rest of the night barricading it. It just felt wrong. Carole must have felt the creepiness when Cary Stayner knocked on her door with his lame “excuse.” It’s ok to test all things to see if they are true. It could save our lives.
I cannot imagine being the girlfriend. I’m sure her blood ran cold hearing that he wanted to k*ll her daughters, too. I would never date again. I wouldn’t trust my own judgment enough to ever bring anyone new around my kids. On top of that, I’m sure she carries guilt about the others’ fates. That whole aspect of this story would be incredibly difficult to carry for the rest of your life. I hope she’s doing well and all three of them have had great lives since then. It’s just heartbreaking that two other young women were just about to start the rest of their lives.
This story is a prime example of why you NEVER trust strange men ..no matter what. If a "maintenance man" wants access to your hotel room, call the managers first to verify, and always tell them you want maintenance done when you're not in the room. I work at a hotel, that is your right as a guest.
You can’t always trust people men even you think they know them Know that fromexaperirncd Men and women both are valuable of hiding who they actually are
@Kevin BurgerKing even if the comment is appropriated strange men and/or woman, the advice in that is on point. Maybe somebody will think twice and make a better decision 🤔
NEVER trust strange women….no matter what. If a “normal woman” wants your help, don’t help them because you’re most likely being set up which is proven by probably millions of cases each year.
@Kevin BurgerKing it's not sexist. As women, we are constantly monitoring for danger, and whenever we do experience danger it's usually a man. It's a collective experience, unfortunately.
I was born in the mid 80's, so I know life without cellphones. But just imagine "losing" your family and have no way of contacting them. Can hardly think of anything worse
Anybody remember calling your parents collect using a false or your middle name to single them you were where you were supposed to be? Then your Mom or Dad would deny the collect call so we wouldn’t be charged?
@@Lily_of_the_Forest it could be nerve racking. There was also a sort of cadence knowing when you get off work, that's it. No one can bother you or contact you. Just you and your family for the good days. But I know where you're coming from.
He said "we". Check in the bible and you'll see demon possessed people often talk in plural because one person can have multiple demons. People think the spiritual world isn't real but it's very real, on the dark side and on the side of light and God.
I found this channel by accident and it's crazy how much I go back and binge watch those I've already seen. The caring and concerned voice for these families and the victims is heart warming. And the respect you give the victim as you tell their story is so appreciated.
Yes, she was an exchange student.. I went to highschool w the 2 girls. I remember thinking at the time about the exchange student's parents. How horrible thinking u are sending your daughter for the experience of a lifetime.. I remember feeling crushed under the weight of sadness for her family 🥺🙏😔
What gets me the most is Carol had time to understand that her first reaction was correct and she shouldn't have let him in. I hate the fact that, that's probably one of the last things that poor woman had to deal with. What a monster
The only thing that could have been worse for her in the realization of what was happening, would have been to see or hear her daughter be raped and murdered, although she knew it would be coming for the daughter too. But those poor girls had to hear it happen to mom, knowing they'd be next... We can't even imagine the utter terror they all suffered.
When I am home alone I never answer the door if I am not expecting someone. My family, friends always call or text first it just habit. Once that door is open your done. I do not live in isolated place however crime is everywhere. If you decide to break in I am not going to hesitate to make sure I am not a victim so good luck with that. Not blaming her she was kind and trusting, tired as well.
@@MrStar700 i do live in a semi isolated place. I dont answer my door either. Like you. If someone comes in my pistol will be happy to make sure they don't stay long.
Your best attribute is that you give notoriety to the victims, while giving as little as you possibly can, while still getting the story across, towards the murderer.
No you don’t. How the fuck would you know a family from hundreds of miles away and a 26 year old isolated naturalist. Why lie about something like that?
Something about this one got me. The fact that carol probably didn’t fight back even during her assault because she thought it’d save the girls life is heart wrenching. And the fact that poor Julie had to spend so much time alone with the bastard confused and scared but still hoping she’ll be okay is just too much. Amazing story telling but incredibly sad, I hope all these women Rest In Peace
Also, I've read a number of comments and no one pointed out what a ditz the mother was: * Didn't bother to close the curtains all the way in their hotel room. * Allowed dude to schmooze his way into the room without first confirming his story with the hotel staff via phone. * Never noticed the dude tailing them most of the day. And then maybe not as ill-conceived, but the other woman was willfully staying at an isolated cabin without any people or dogs and unarmed. I have enough of a moral conscience not to feel they deserved to die for their mistakes, don't get me wrong. It's sad and disturbing. This story's a good lesson about being vigilant when traveling, especially if you're in an isolated area in a small group or alone.
@@PoochieCollins doesn’t matter what decisions they made- the dead don’t deserve to be disrespected and called “dumb” and a “ditz” they were abused and murdered. What you’re doing is called victim blaming and it isn’t cute.
@@PoochieCollins did you read mine at all? Despite you saying that they didn’t deserve to die. You still disrespected the dead and victim blamed by implying their choices and decisions are what got them killed. But no. What got them killed was that mans sick mind. Blaming their decisions for their death and saying they deserved to die are two different things. Please learn the difference. And you were still being disrespectful for no reason.
As a person who lives with PTSD, I would like to thank you. It's confusing to some people as to why I sleep with your stories playing.... and it's kind of hard for me to explain, but your voice is comforting, and as creepy as your stories are; they aren't my memories. One of my most disruptive symptoms is intrusive memories of the trauma at bedtime and you drown it out. The stories are engaging enough to distract my mind and your voice is soothing enough that I can sleep to it. I am quite sure that I am not the only person who uses your stories for this purpose, and I just want to say thank you. It's really very difficult for me to find material that actually works for me sleep wise (it seems to be exclusively creepy/true crime in story format with Male narrators). Thank you for uploading so prolifically. Sleep is essential for being able to manage my other PTSD symptoms, and it's the difference between being able to manage productively and everything going sideways. If I stop getting enough sleep, things get weird.
Same here. I’m having trouble sleeping before due to some depressing matters. Glad I came upon MrBallen’s stories. I could sleep easy knowing that there’s a comforting voice telling me bed time stories (as my mom did when I was a child). Also, I sometimes have to wake up at odd hours for my job. Use the same method to sleep earlier than usual. Thanks MrBallen. Love all your stories. On a side note, my sympathies to the families that are affected by this crime. 😢
This is so relatable...I also love horror movies - there's a catharsis there somehow. As you said, not my memories. When you know what real horror is, you're pretty much unfazed by anything else.
I cried when I read your post because I have a PTSD too. I use it for the same purpose and reading your post gave me chills because I feel as you do about what people can’t or don’t understand about PTSD. When you said drown out thoughts - tears rolled down my face!! Thank you for your post. ❤
I know that literally made my skin crawl. I imagine it was like the movie “I Spit ON Your Grave”. It’s super intense. Which is how I wish all the situations ended.
Not me. I may not be a pedophile but that kinda sounds like something you'd hear from a video game or tv show. I just couldn't help but chuckle a bit when I heard that.
@Jason Shults Trump being one of them...lying about the dangers of Covid19...and making it sound like it was a "nothing burger" even tho he talked to Mr. Woodward...and told him how deadly and dangerous it was...he continued his crusade(and to this day) still influences his followers to make the covid19 vaccine...seem like it is some kind of bad thing....
The Girlfriend with her daughters that wasn’t killed because of the handyman that started THAT DAY...reminds me of No Country for Old Men and the random luck that can lead to whether you live or die, and you may not even know anything ever about it. Makes me wonder how many people on a given day avoid death by random luck without ever even knowing it.
@Jeremy S I know, right? Can you imagine how terrifying it would be to know you and your kids were the target of a deranged maniac, after the fact? And THAT person was your own boyfriend? I wonder why that woman, to her credit, had contracted the help of some other person to help her with those chores, instead of her "handyman" boyfriend? Man, life's weird. And, scary.
Quote from a song: God only knows the times my life Was threatened just today A reckless car ran out of gas Before it ran my way Near misses all around me Accidents unknown Though I never see with human eyes The Hands that lead me home
I cannot/ do not want to even imagine the devastation, pain and suffering a parent feels when losing a child/children, but to have your child murdered AND beheaded, that’s just beyond words.
John Walsh of America’s most wanted, his son Adam was kidnapped and beheaded. He’s been committed to putting these monsters behind bars since. People are sickening!!
@@joek9353 My family watched the made for TV movie about Adam in the 80s. My Daddy was not a very emotional man but, he cried during the movie when the boy was found. I learned that there was evil in the world seeing it as a little girl. I'll never forget it. I did meet John Walsh in the early 90s at the restaurant I was working at and thanked him for being amazing for what he did.
@@BriEMcN I lost my 25 year old daughter in July. She was my middle daughter and I had her little brother late in life and have a teenager at home who needs me and my oldest daughter was best friends with her sister. She needed me just as much as my son (he lost his Dad the month before!) I had to be there for my other kids but, I am struggling for strength. I've never been so sad . My life had changed forever. My daughter had many different friends from all over the Country where she traveled. It's been very hard to explain her death over and over to people who didn't know she had passed away at least once a week. I am still having nightmares. If I didn't have my other kids and my husband...I wouldn't be here right now. I was born to be a Mother and wouldn't want to be here if I didn't have my children.
One of if not THE BEST story tellers on TH-cam, Facebook, etc. The way Mr.Ballen explains these stories in as much detail he can along with showing pictures, the added sound effects, and his emphasis on certain parts and words in the story make it 100x better.
This is the most horrifying retelling of these events I've heard. I can't imagine the fear these women felt, or how his girlfriend must feel knowing how close it was to being her and her daughters.
I try to take these things that are disturbing to watch and ground them in something objective, like using this as another reason to be intelligently conscious of things around me. Not just for being a victim, but for others who can be.
Just to clarify…Silvina was not a “long time friend” of Julie’s. She was an exchange student from Brazil that the family was very graciously hosting for a school term. Makes it even more tragic
I'll never grasp how someone can kill someone so effortlessly and mentally uninvolved. If I see a kitten limping outside, I'll literally spend the day feeling sadly sympathetic. How can someone just not feel those things? Remorse, empathy, guilt, etc. The brain is one incredible and fascinating, yet utterly terrifying thing.
I remember this all to well Cary Stayner was caught near where I was living at the time, in Wilton northern California. Very Rural area he was staying at Del Sol, nudist resort. What I found beyond disturbing was the fact that Detectives actually asked Cary to help them, he gave them blankets and a few other items that they needed for fiber comparison. Also, while being questioned by the FBI, never once did officers ask to look in the backpack that Cary had with him. Turns out the bag had numerous notebooks with outrageous violent drawings! If they would had just taken a peek, Joie Ruth Armstrong would still be alive! That still breaks my heart!
At least they caught him before he went to kill his girlfriend and her family. They were incredibly lucky through all of this. I cannot understand how someone can go through the horror of having a loved one abducted, and then go do the same (and worse) to other people. His story is so disturbing.
How are cops that dumb, any one can have any evil intention at any time, why do they think they can trust someone they don’t know well (like a parent, close friend etc)
@@joelschmierer3544 It wasn't really dumb to not search his bag. At the time he wasn't a suspect any more than any other employee of the hotel or park was. If the police searched through the belongings of everyone they ever talked to it would usually be a massive waste of time and would probably make people less inclined to talk to the police in general.
@@xzonia1 I am almost sure that his experiences with his brother are somehow even the cause for his actions. I am no psychologist, but it doesn't seem unbelievable to me that the mind of one person could react in this way to the trauma. Violence leads to more violence...
I had a Maintenance Man who I’ve never seen and I lived in my apartment for like five years at this point and I knew all the handyman and when he came in he locked the door behind him I freaked out grabbed a knife unlocked it and ran and called my boyfriend who came home and it turns out he was a legit he just had gotten hired but who the fuck lock the door behind a woman in their own apartment who they don’t know and I didn’t know anything about a repair yeah
Word of advice, if a “robber” ever wants to tie you up/blindfold you, fight them. Idc if its to the death. If they tie you up they most likely will take you somewhere else and that can only mean terrible things. This story is so sad
Good advice. If a gun is ever pointed at you, rush the robber. They won’t expect you to not comply and it will catch them off guard, ultimately giving you the upper hand. Though if you are woman, this might be easier said than done, but it is possible. Aim for the nose when you tackle them, this will cause them to be in a state of shock and then wail on them until they are either unconscious or dead.
I think we all do believe that we would just rush them, even knowing we could easily die. But I think in the momemt you will have hope that this extreme risk is not necessary and the other peroson will not really harm you. Because if you rush someone with a gun (or a weapon), chances are you are dead or badly wounded befor you could do much. But I agree, if a robber wants to tie me up I would resist no matter what. At this point I would have to assume that I am dead either way. Beeing shot is hopefully faster.
I would like to believe I would know how to respond in such circumstances, God forbid I ever have to. But I totally agree, they better fulfill their threat, cause they're not subduing me without a fight. Imagine how 3 of them could've maneuvered this without getting tied up, despite there being a gun held against them. So sad.
Shout out to the high school students who gave Carole’s wallet to the police. Most kids would steal the money, cards, and just leave the wallet where they found it. Who knows, maybe it would’ve made a difference in the case if that happened. Wouldn’t be surprised if they took some cash but still better than most people
He placed it on purpose near a high school to be found, so he likely left it without any valuable items to avoid it being stolen. But I get what you mean
@@cottoncandiez8872 I’ve lost my wallet four times in my life and had it returned with everything in it. One time I didn’t expect to get it back because there was an awful lot of money in it. But I got it back with every last penny in there
@@adameddington4019 neither can i, and i'm glad i haven't felt that kind of grief. no one deserves to die that way, nor does anyone deserve to have someone they love die that way. i'm sure it did a number on Joie's mother, same for Carole's husband. i hope they're all doing better knowing the shitstain that took the lives of Joie, Carole, Juli, and Silvina will be rotting in prison until he receives his punishment.
@@lowdowngrittyngrimey it’s just wild to me that people can do those things. It was just a “urge” that he had since he was SEVEN. How did nobody notice he was crazy.
@@adameddington4019 Some people are good at hiding who they really are, its disturbing to know that the person sitting next to you could be a murderer at any point.
Gripping storyteller! Once you start a story, I can't look away. And I always remember YOUR story of your service to our country, and your time in hospital. As always, I thank you and your brothers & sisters in service...thank you!
‘Pulled her up on her feet, told her “I love you” then slashed her throat and pushed her over the lake” That is the most disgusting, haunting thing I have ever heard. It made me want to puke.
Many feel that way, But deep down wouldn't you like a night under the stars, giving back to nature,... Then go home and clean the dirt off the shovel .
No there’s these two black guys, they held 2 women and 2 men hostage in Wisconsin, they made the men assault the woman, then they assaulted the woman, then shot all of them, then took a truck and ran over them. Then killed the family dog, one of the woman lived, that was some sick assholes, they were real brothers. And I guess still in prison now.
Survival tip 2: Nah. If you don't recognize the person when you look out the peep hole, and it's the middle of the night, they can come back in the morning. If the front desk needs to get in your room at midnight they can send a police officer to speak with you about it. The front desk could easily be in on your demise so don't trust them either.
Having been a night auditor at a hotel, I can assure you that we were strictly prohibited from entering an occupied room at all costs. If there was an issue, we essentially had to book them into a separate room and then address the issue after they had vacated the room in question. Unless the fire alarm is going off, a hotel staff member should never try to enter your room with you in it.
Genuinely sad and scary. How many people do we pass on a daily basis that have these fantasies and opportunity to cause such harm? How many times when I have traveled alone with my children have I met folks like this man? 😶 Thank God for grace, mercy and protection.
So weird to think their lives were spared cause of a simple decision to hire someone to do some work around the house. Wonder if she was suspicious at all...
As tragic as this is, people need to realise that if someone is committing any serious crime and they reveal their face, then it’s safe to assume they have no intentions of letting you live as you are able to later identify them. Fight for your life, struggle hard, if nothing else don’t let them easily carry out whatever sick plan they have. Even a quick death will likely be better than what these bastards have in mind.
Agreed! A body guard for celebrities more than once, giving tactics for safety, stressed to if anyway possible never allow yourself to taken from scene A to scene B, as more than not scene C will be where your remains are found.
First sign was letting a man i to your house when there was no way to stop him (no other men in house, no loaded weapons etc), and second sign was letting you get tied up, you are as good as dead if you ever agree to being restrained in any way
I was robbed at gunpoint with my boyfriend by 2 men. They dragged him back to their car and the other rummaged through the truck as I sat there. I was smoking weed and had taken a Xanax so I was not coherent and it wasn't processing. He grabbed my purse and then pointed the gun at me and told me to get out of the car. I did. Then I razzed him and started Sassing off saying "you gonna kill me? Kill me. You'll be doing me a favor. Do it." Then he told me to get in the bushes. I refused and said "no, not happening. Take what you have there and leave." I kept harassing him. He called back to the other man asking what to do with "this b*tch" his friend said just leave her. They let go of my boyfriend and he got back in the car. We proceeded to go to my house and call the cops. I survived because I wouldn't comply and it really threw that man off. I'm thankful every day I lived. It could have been so much worse.
Imagine randomly hiring a handyman, and solely being alive because he was at your house that day. That poor girlfriend was probably so traumatized. The man she loved, the man that met her kids, spent time and probably holidays with, etc. was fucking fantasizing about raping, torturing, and murdering her and her family. What a bag of shit. I hope her and her kids are safe and healthy, and live the best, happiest lives possible.
You are over-exaggerating. They may as well just met and got together a week before that. The woman was very very luck, she may as well date the handyman as a "thanks", lol!
@@godnyx117 First you think she was "exaggerating",THEN you say something so f'd up ABOUT HOW THE GF MIGHT AS WELL HAVE DATED THE HANDYMAN ~~AS A "THANKS" and you "lol" ... YOU ARE TWISTED AF.
@alexleigh33 ❤️For REAL and THEN I READ @godnyx117 reply, THAT SICK & TWISTED MF ~~whom thinks you are "over-exaggerating "! Seriously?? Sounds like @godnyx117 knows EXACTLY WHAT & HOW RAPISTS and MURDERERS of women & young girls THINK and STALK THEIR VICTIMS/PREY.. (bc he thinks you are "OVER-EXAGGERATING"!😳 wow.
@@janetgrooms4577 So, your problem is the world that I used? English is not my native language so maybe there are better word I could had used IF my level was better. What about catching the meaning of the comment instead of just replying for the sake of just doing it?
@@godnyx117 Let it go man! At the end of the day NOBODY GAF what ANYONE comments about, UNLESS of course, someone posts a comment that is offensive, extremely rude OR is just an internet troLL.. My opinion regarding your post is of no consequence, what YOU posted bothered me because I'm familiar with that particular incident about the Mother, Daughter and the Daughters friend.. I thought you were rather disrespectful, because you put a lol in your comment and there was NOTHING to laugh about what happened to the victims by thAt rapist/murderer..
The way the fibres were tied to the 1st suspects but once they had a confession from the 2nd suspect it was declared that "OH, actually it turns out that those fibres were linked to a very common blanket that could belong to millions!" It makes me wonder how many false convictions police have pinned on innocent suspects
@@digitalphreak it's true. Hair analysis had been proven to be hit or miss, and so has bite mark analysis. Many people now believe that all forensic science is infallible. This is not the case. All evidence can be contaminated, degraded, or mishandled, which drives down the accuracy of forensic evidence.
Yes! I totally agree, had that enjoyment feeling until the end and realized from an empathetic point of view how horrible this drawn out murder was for that last girl. Amazing story teller, but horrific early finish to that poor girl
John is a natural storyteller who has a gift of keeping his listeners focused and drawn into the story world. I think this episode is a horrible but unfortunately very real warning to all women that we really do have to look out for these types of people with dark intent that see women as something to be controlled used and abused. Listen to your intuition. For example: if you get a bad or nervous feeling about someone or something trust it and: get out of there/ don't open the door if it doesn't feel right/ don't go out that night/ whatever your intuition tells you. Trust yourself if it feels off and don't endanger yourself and anyone with you.
Just hearing about women being sexually assaulted makes me sick to my stomach and extremely angry. I don't know how anyone can enjoy or get off on that. Anyone who does that should be castrated.
@@JohnMiller-zr8pl Too bad the U.S. doesn't think a woman can sexually assault a man they usually laugh at men who tell the police. And when they do the woman gets severely less time incarcerated than a man.
They should be killed in the most Terrifying way. Death penalty is not so painful. This type of shitty killers should be killed slowly, Making Them suffer for days. They should realise what their victims went through. I wish I could change the laws. Give him to me!!! I will make him see hell!!!
This is in response to some of the comments I read...I once saw a detective on tv talking about abductions. He said if someone tries to force you into their vehicle fight for your life because if you get into the vehicle your chances of survival go way down. I've always told my girls to fight like hell if that ever happens (God forbid!) to them. And always trust your instincts!
These stories are so scary I literally find myself noticing my surrounding before I exit my car and walking around my house making sure every door and window is locked, and don’t have me think I see a shadow!! 😳 great story telling
Same!! I just made my husband put a chair under our apt door for a extra safety precaution.. We both giggled then my husband said it's pretty sad that we do have to take extra precautions nowadays smh!!
These stories have made me super alert to everything and anything. I used to go jogging in a large wooded park near my house...don't do that anymore thanks to Mrballen!
I don't think it's super healthy to watch videos like this everyday, but it's some incredibly exciting and heartbreaking stories. but its too much death and sadness for my mind, to receive everyday. maybe im just too weak lol.
Never ever let someone into your space like that, even if they seem legit. Weird circumstances will feel weird for a reason. Trust your gut like the mom did at first. Call the front desk if you have to. Also never ever trust someone if they say “it’s just a robbery” but go through all that trouble to tie you up, etc.
There are 2 stories in particular that haunt me. The “Tampa Bay” story.. and the “boat robbery”. 🤦🏽♂️ oh man… there is no God. Not like must of us have been taught to believe. No way!
Is it the one with mom and two daughters that went on their last boat ride and the guy was caught bc some old lady recognized his handwriting? Horrible. I felt so bad for dad alone on his farm. I hope he’s ok now. 🤟🏼
@@tinawindham6958 YES!! 🤦🏽♂️ The daughter had already been sexually abused. This was the whole point of this trip. Then what happened to them is unimaginable. There is no God. 😞
This story made me feel sick to my stomach and my daughter is hitting her teen years if anything happened to her it would destroy me. I'm glad you give as much focus to the victims as the perpetrator as their stories need to be heard
I lost my Mom 4 years ago and I'll tell you that it never gets easier. But you will learn to live everyday without breaking down. I still cry when I talk about her but I don't fully explode into tears. I'm sorry for your loss
@@celeste.cutz2020 yeah honestly makes me want to take those kind of ppl and torture them to the brink of death. Then wait till they recover and repeat till they die of natural causes
@@alexkim3794 i never felt like a violent person until I had a child and hear stories like these and imagine what i'd do to someone if they hurt her :/
I followed this in the media. Ironically I had been planning a trip to that area at the time. I wound up cancelling the trip and have never been able to reschedule it. It sad because it's a lovely place. It has changed my life. I used to camp and cave solo all the time. After this and the Appalachian Trail murders I was just too afraid
I've said it once and I'll say it many more times, Mr. Ballen is a gifted storyteller. He is so engaging and makes stories that you've heard before intersting and new. I remembered this story as soon as he started. I remember it being chronicled on The Oprah Winfrey show when I was a kid and it has stuck with me ever since. It's so sad how someone can be having the time of their life in one moment and then thrust into the middle of their darkest nightmare the next.
Thank you for bringing a more humanistic way to listen to crime stories. Most people just talk about the murderers at the expense of the victims. You talk about the victims and re-humanise them.
A lot of the true crime content on YT has been turning into what is essentially torture porn. It's really sad to see, and even more sad once you realise that they only make their content this way because there is a huge demand. Wtf is wrong with people Like Simon Whistler always says, less saw, more CSI
It saved three lives but also cost three other lives, as he wouldn't have had the time to kill carol and her family as they were going to catch a flight the next day.
I can’t get around the fact that at 7 years old he fantasize about killing someone...like wtf! He’s 7 years old! Why is a thought like that in his mind?
His brother was abducted by a sick man who kept him from 7 to 14 years old and he escaped when the man brought another child. The kid said nope this ain't happenin no nobody else mfr. He escaped with the younger child on his back.
@@GrandPrix46 What about those of us that are both? I love kids and animals among others. But "people" like this guy would be fun to get positively medieval on.
@@GrandPrix46 Nobody's born neither. You really are joining the ignorant side of the world. The ignorance IS the greatest evil in the world. And most of it is concentrated in US.
@Princess Buttercup there was 3 of them I would rather risk getting shot because most likely the killer doesn't want to make noise but then again u never Kno wut ull do until ur in that situation
@@c.washington6693 IF you get the chance..predators are not pulling a gun waiting for your choice to go or fight...before you even understand what's happening your already gone..that is the reality. Understand.if taken to a second location in a story you hear about does not mean they complied either...
Yep, we'd have found out if that mfer knew how to use that handgun or not. I doubt it was condition 0, and you don't have time to rack a round in close quarters like that. It's getting noisy in that room, for sure.
I love the little details that you give such as their room number, exactly how their trip was going, and other stuff unnecessary for our understanding of the story, but yet makes it 10 times more enjoyable! Thankyou
having a young daughter myself listening to your stories makes me very more aware of my surroundings and never to trust ANYONE even if their intentions seem harmless. You really never know what someone is really capable of. My heart hurts so bad for these innocent victims and their families.
I was just in a really cheap hotel on a 13 hour trip. Lights were hanging by wires and toilet didn’t work and the extra security clasp had been broken off. I would have never brought my family there but I was alone. I moved the fridge in front of the door and jammed a chair under the door knob and kept a few beer bottles on the night stand just in case.
@@sakbrat1 That's what I was thinking. If I don't know the person on the other side of that door after looking through the peephole, I will call the desk and tell them that "I don't know why someone I don't know is on the other side of the door, but you need to get over here and handle it." I trust no one.
Steven Stayner seemed to be the complete opposite of Cary. During his time being kidnapped he would keep other children from being abducted. The only reason he was found was because he was returning a child to the police station. Maybe that is what also made Cary becomes so jealous of Steven. Because not only did he get all the “attention” from being kidnapped but he was obviously just a better as a human being in general.
@MrBallen Did you ever see the movie called "my real name is Steven." It was Steven Stayner it was an excellent movie. I think it was a 2 day saga. They were brothers. In fact Steven ended up getting married had a couple kids and he died in a motorcycle accident in Bakersfield California and passed away. And then after that that's when his brother killed those people in Yosemite.
@@YaYa-ke1zr The man who wrote the book by that same name, "I know my first name is Steven", would later die in jail while awaiting trial for exposing himself. Up until that point, he had been a staunch advocate against pedophilia and even trolling chat rooms for pedophiles. I guess he was really just hiding from himself the entire time. Just a bizarre, coincidental, and sad case all the way around.
I can't even imagine being a male and not having to worry, every single day, about being victimized by a male. This is something we women live with ALL of our lives. It's not something that is constantly gnawing at you but it's always in the back of your mind. Always. It's how we live. Men have no idea that this is the way it is for us.
It's even worse when little girls are molested at young age, it's strips them of their innocence and they learn very quickly how monstrous some men are. So even little girls worry about it and it stays with them into adulthood. Nearly every woman I've met, including myself have been molested before the age of 10. It's so sad and absolutely disgusting how often this happens and how many men do this.
@@Plumberboi91 I'm terribly sorry your mother was such a horrible person. There is no excuse for that and she never should have had kids. But what I'm talking about is different. It's the 24-hour a day fear of rape which you, traumatized as you were, still know nothing about. Now that you're out of her clutches, luckily, your threat has passed. Ours remains for a lifetime.
I’m sure this has been said ( I’m new to this guy), but I love how this guy humanizes the victims of these horrific crimes. Most crime shows only focus on the perpetrator. It really goes to show that these victims are regular people just like us. Love this guy already!
i mean its said in the pinned + top comment so... + plus generally people dont start by saying "im sure this has been said..." unless they know for a fact it has been said a lot, they just say whatever come to their minds. like why would they worry about "is this something that has been said a lot" without caring about checking if it has been said a lot first
Can you imagine being his girlfriend not knowing that your boyfriend planned to kill you and your two young children who were only 10 and 11 years old but the worker you hired saved your life. A worker who took his time saved your life? I couldn’t even imagine!
@@AK00777 There was a news report Yesterday about a person who killed a rapist and carved rapist on the guy stomach after killing him in his apartment building halfway. There are also people who go out robbing and killing drug dealers.
Never, ever let someone take you to a secondary location. Things will only get worse. I feel so bad for this guy’s victims. I truly hope there is a special place in hell for people like him.
Exactly that's what John Walsh said I remember him saying that on America's most wanted. Never let them take you to second location . I'm now 44 years old crazy what you remember as a kid.
I learned that from the videos they used to make you watch when.you got a job in retail. They say fall down and dont get up. If they shoot you there at least you have a chance of medical saving you but if you go with them its almost guaranteed you are toast.
Especially if you’re a woman.My parents engrained into my brain growing up.You fight like hell if they try to take you to another place,you use anything and everything you can as a weapon
You somehow seem a lot more impacted by this story than some of the others. I remember this story well. I live in CA and at that time, I was in my 20s. The media coverage was crazy and everyone was shocked.
I am not surprised we have the worst psychopaths and we make them our politicians and bankers we play the game of wild cavemen and we are going to destroy each other in wars while they shit laughing at seeing us torn apart and yet we are stupid enough to follow them and not do nothing against him, an example the pedophile of biden, the rothschild dynasty of war criminals financed the first and second world wars on both sides
If only you knew the things that I know then you would understand and I am not talking about crazy reptilian theories I am talking about truly frightening things that are true and there is evidence if you look for them if you only knew you would lose faith in humanity and seeing today being realistic hopes do not seem to exist I can only see a darkness that spreads without opposition the light is a sad memory that will never resurface
@Loh I've seen cruelty. I was the brunt of cruelty before I was 3 yrs old. I have no idea why it shocks me other then the sheer nature of the offense, but it always will.
@L 100%! Im positive from a few broken memories that there was a serious incident at the age of 3. And if not multiple more. There are repressed memories from my childhood and honestly terrified to figure them out.
My heart breaks for the father that lost his wife and daughter in one instance. He’s waiting in Arizona for them to never show. Sad for Silvana’s and Joie’s mother/family as well. You never know who you’re walking or what they’re thinking. Crazy world out there.
What’s worse is that it’s entirely possible there were some people in the father/husband’s life who believed that he had something to do with it. You can be 100% genuinely innocent but in the eyes of public opinion and even in law enforcement you must have done it.
@@DavidRodriguez-gl5pn death would be to easy instead they should say that he’s going to get the death sentence, then put him in the chair and fake execute him just to torture him
This is one of the scariest and most disturbing one of these stories I've heard, I hope that the families involved are healing, and that something like this never happens again
Was the brother's backstory wvwn real? Or did he make it up? Or heck was he even the one who did it? That would also tend to explain why his fantasies started at 7.
@@deborahhanna9126 yes, his brother's abduction and release was huge in the media. Check it out, it's crazy. The animal who kept the brother actually made him scout out for other boys to kidnap. Total case of Stockholm Syndrome. But thankfully the brother was able to get free and return home after 7 years.
This is just one of many stories that we know of. I’m sure there are even more stories we will never know. The forest are thick, the desert is vast, the swamps are deep, the world is scary.
But they didn't disappear inside Yosemite. Their car was found at the motel and they never showed up that started the investigation The murder inside Yosemite was easily and quickly found to be a murder. The Missing 411 cases are beyond bizarre or any rational explanation (that we know of yet) and leave absolutely no traces or clues. There were tyre tracks leaving the naturalist's cabin, a clearly defined trail of someone running into the woods, and a grisly murder scene. The 411s often are never found and cannot be located even by expert trackers, scent dogs, FLIR helicopter or even leave any indication they were even in the park Or disappear then turn up in a place searched dozens of times previously. I realise it may look like there could be a serial killer explanation to the M411 cases but once you look into it enough, considering that as a possible explanation, you realise it's just not possible. It's just not humanly possible to vanish someone like that and leave zero trace in the way those cases often transpire. If there were I think the police and FBI who often work those cases not to mention the many thousands of people acquainted with the subject would have been able to prove it by now after these many hundreds of years of eerily similar disappearances fitting that profile. Possible human abduction is ruled out of a M411 case early on.
I’m going to be thinking about Julie and what she went through for a long time after watching this. That poor girl. It keeps brining tears to my eyes. I hope her loved ones, and the loved ones of all the women targeted by this piece of garbage, find peace.
I’ve heard estimates that there are 200-300 unidentified serial killers roaming free in the U.S. today. That could even be a conservative estimate! Frightening how deranged and mean people can be.
There are people much, much worse than this, by far... This is sad and tragic, but still able to be told in story format. There are things happening almost everyday so unbelievably horrific, MrBallen wouldn't do a video about them nor would you want him to.
@@justachick3114 it's easier to be a regular murderer than a serial killer nowadays so I doubt this. SK's are usually compulsive in one way or another. Since data is openly shared between states, it's not possible to commit the same kind of crime in different states without it being picked up by algorithms. Once it is, the profilers start looking at the cases. They're eerily good. One way a killer could escape this would be my varying the method of death. Now, that may seem simple but, that SERIOUSLY increases the chance something is botched on their end. It would be like performing a complex song in front of thousands of people but, you don't know the song until 5 minutes before the show. Sure, great performers can pull it off but can they do it perfectly every night? I don't think so
i thought they always do that in person.. to be around the people they tell it to.. you never know how they will take it.. might get a hear attack or kill themselves.. it was very strange for me too
You are good. Get 2 big dogs. Pitbulls, Rottweilers, german shepherds, etc. And have a gun on you at all times, learn to use it. Become physical strong through weight training. And if you notice in a lot of these cases the victims end up victims because they make some questionable choices.. going on a strangers boat, opening the door for strange man, etc
@@jgraninger5748 that isn't victim blaming. Going out on a boat that is completely isolated with a dude you know nothing about and bringing you children is dumb. It isn't her fault, it is the killers, but that was a dumb decision .
I actually new Julie. We met the begining of the school year and was cheerleading together. We won second place for the eureka loggers and all stars championship. Last I saw her we just performed our Christmas cheer at the bay shore mall. Then my father pulled me aside months later to tell me she was missing. I remember every time the news came on I would run to the TV hoping for an update. Sadly the update was something no one wanted. To this day, I am so sad to think that Julie and Sylvinia never got to grow up and become mothers, wives careers. Carol never got to meet her grandchildren. Jules Armstrong never got to live as well. To this day every December I still think of last time I saw her, our last cheer, her last smile. I'm hopeful that they are at peace and happy. Lots of love julie
This and other instances of killers being active for months or even years makes you wonder how many times have you seen someone out in public that quite possibly was a killer.
Im certain 2 times in my life. Ive run into 2 serial killers not just murderers. 1 on hywy looking for an address and one in another country it was the cab driver that dropped me off to th hotel
In 1980, it was estimated .01% of the population was sociopathic enough to be a serial killer. That's one & a half million people - the size of a small city. I believe the estimate is, at any given time, there are 38 serial killers at large in the United States alone. That's NOT locked up or even recognized as serial murders. THAT'S AT LARGE. Pleasant Dreams, Kiddies!
Four years ago I asked my best friend if when she meets someone new regardless of how long the interaction is with that person or what the circumstances are how often does she think/wonder if she's just met the person who's going to murder her? She was really shocked that not only had I asked her that question but also for the fact that its something I asked myself alot especially back then.
Cary’s brother was labeled a hero for saving himself and a little boy. Interesting how one brother can be a hero, and the other bother a monster. Look up Steven Stayner if you’re curious about his brother’s story.
My mom worked at a suit shop and she fit Steven for his wedding tux. Sadly, not long after he died in a motorcycle accident 😢 there’s a lifetime movie too called I think my name is Steven or my name it Steven
I'm just watching the story of Steven I had heard about it many years ago and saw the movie but didnt even connect them on watching this till I saw the documentary .... so crazy like you said one is a hero one is a monster
@@gwenscott4783 that’s so sad. His story is so tragic. When he married and had his baby, it was like he was getting that happy ending and life. Only for tragedy to strike so soon after. I feel for that family so much. They’ve been through hell.
Honestly, the moment someone goes to rob you and says "this is just a robbery" and tries to tie people up, is when you fight for your life. From watching another youtube channel I learned that most of the time, robbers just want a quick victim to steal from and get out asap. If something like this happens, there are way more bad intentions involved. My mom always told me, if someone tries to force me to go to another location or tie me up, fight for my life because thats all I got left, and nothing else waits for me, other than a bad ending.
@@YohananYGO They were in a motel room, which is a tight space. If all 3 of them had tried to counter attack they could have ripped the gun from him and turn the tables. That being said though, not everyone has the courage or empty handed skills to do such. But it still a very possible option rather than just being tied down waiting to die :\
You'd be surprised. Humans in general when presented with a choice between life and death, they'd choose life and grasp at it with the last of their strength. Only giving up when there is no out. This is why psychopath goes out of their way to be friendly while tying people up to make them believe it is all just an inconvenience.
@@YohananYGO Run from a knife, always charge a gun. And if you have fists or anything around you that is dense then you can incapacitate and kill them. Even if the have a "better weapon". I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. You will always die if you don't fight, if you do then at least you have a chance of survival aside from miraculous rescue by law enforcement.
Good comments here. Also start throwing things and screaming; create chaos and confusion. Easier to say than to do, of course. Confirm this visit with the front desk. We can at least learn from this and lessen our chances.
I'm glad they had this really great trip and were just in a warm loving mood with each other. It's horrible that they were murdered the way they were but at least they had this really great time before the horrible things happened.
The way you tell stories gives me shivers down my spine and tears to my eyes for the victims in these cases . I just feel so bad for these poor women . But , how when I go away on vacation I will be more vigilant about the people around us . Thankyou
Seriously. I’m about to go on vacation with my child and now I’m like,… well, lets just stay home and play some board games, AND allow NO HANDYMAN inside. I’ll ask family for help around the house from now on, thank you! Lol What a scary awful true story this one was! I did like the added sound effects like the walking, the doorbell, knocking, etc. though on a positive note!🥴
Wow, as a kid i watched the mini series "I know my first name is Steven" about the abduction of this guys brother. I can't believe after all that happened with Steven his brother turned out to be a killer. Poor parents.
I just watched the movie immediately after your comment (Thanks btw). Cary wasn't present on the day Steven was reunited with his family, so when Steven asked where he was, his Mother said he was away at camp in Yosemite. It both gave me chills and disgusted me knowing what he'd do in that same place in years to come.
I "discovered" MrBallen about a month ago, and this story compelled me to comment. OMG, I just realized that Carey's brother Steven is Steven Stayner from that 80s TV movie, "I know my first name is Steven." There was an image of Merced in this story and that's what popped into my head. Then, MrBallen mentioned a brother, Steven, who was abducted for 7 years (by Parnell), and THAT'S when it hit me. I NEVER forgot about that movie and to know this connection literally made my heart jump. I can't believe it!!! Anyone else remember that movie? I'm literally shaking and almost sick to my stomach. MrBallen, you are quite the storyteller and now I do my best to watch my surroundings to ensure I don’t become one of your strange, dark and mysterious told in story format.😉
Many of us that were living in the SF Bay Area at the time vividly remember the details of this time and story. I always felt that Joie was the hero. Her battle was not in vain. It rattled him enough to leave a crime scene. It also opened the eyes of many about how badly investigations could be handled.
Right. The way Joie fought back messed up the killer's crazy plan, helping him finally get caught by the police. By doing that her death stopped him for good and stopped the murders of his girlfriend and her daughters, again. It's just really sad for Joie's family. They must be so angry with police for initially arresting the wrong people in the murders of the 3 ladies, leaving the real killer on the loose. Hopefully the sicko will be fully punished soon.
Man the way you tell the stories is crazy. I remember probably 80% of every video. Some bits and pieces get lost in the fray, but you honestly make these people known. They aren't just victims in your stories, but real people that went through horrible things.
Thank you! But that poor like button..
I try very hard to focus on the humanity of the victims. It’s really something I care deeply about. Thank you
@@MrBallen you nail it every time. The stories are horrific sometimes, but the humanity is always there.
@@MrBallen I can definitely feel your empathy in your videos. 🤍
What about the one video. I need help. What’s the one video where a guy has a fake life in his head after getting hit in the head at a football game? I’ve been dying to hear it again.
@@MrBallen I need help. Please?
The fact that you're a hand talker, that you label when the photos are real, and do conversions for us (miles to kilometers) everything you do is the best
And sound effects! 😱 I can’t stop watching! I love this channel! ❤️
@@Hippy-db7tf hello my friend
@@Hippy-db7tf hello my friend
hello my friend
I like the sound effects
One of the most important rules I've realised: if you see the face of your attacker, fight for your life. They're not planning on letting you live.
Yes. If you see their face they are going to try to kill you. No question. Also- NEVER get in to the car with them.
For sure you are taught never do as they say as far as going away with them
Always keep a gun with you
A man of cultured profile picture, you are doing well my apprentice, however, you still have much to learn in the ways of the Pepe side.
Also don't be a woman alone.
It's amazing how that guy who was hired to mow the lawn basically saved the family's life by just doing his job.
He saved one family life but another family life’s was devastated.. this was so sad Cary is a sick
Yeah but his girlfriend and daughters were saved again before that monster was on his way second time
His girlfriend and two children, their angel was working overtime, twice he wanted to kill them.
This guy in Florida be friended this lady with two school girl, she ended up having relationship with this dude, the girls trusted him, one day he picks them up from school to told the girls, their can't do it and asked him to pick them up, once they were home, he raped the girls and killed them hide them in the attick, but the blood started to drift down the wall. Be careful trusting any sweet talking devils. Poor ladies! They're
in Heaven!!
💟☮️
@@ryveralexander8511 Nah fuck those angels, where were they for the other innocent family that was brutally raped and murdered? Your God and heaven do not exist. This is demonstrated in nature and our universe alone, but you acting like "angels" protected some woman and her children is just sick and borderline disturbing. What a twisted way to look at beautiful life
@@asasheffield9971 lol edgy atheism. What's wrong with them counting the blessings of the ones that got lucky?
Steven, Cary's brother, was an amazing person and had the empathy his brother completely lacked. He was abducted and held for 7 years being constantly raped and assaulted. It wasn't until the kidnapper brought in another little boy he just abducted that Steven knew he had to escape with the boy. He didn't want this little boy to go through the absolute hell he had gone through. He had given up when it was just him, but was so selfless and caring that the only reason he took action was to save someone else.
I looked it up and his captor only got 7 years? And didn't even charge him for the sexual assault and ra..
SO SAD THAT IT TOOK ANOTHER BOY TO BE TAKEN FOR HIM TO GET THE STRENGTH TO FIGHT. HE LOST ALL HOPE FOR HIMSELF. THAT IS A VERY SAD AND SCARY THOUGHT. MY HEART GOES OUT TO HIM...
I remember his story. Sadly he passed away so young. He has a doc on HULU
USA is run by pedophiles and psychopaths. Hence $ is being ditched by civilization. Poor American patriots. Be well prepared for the Battle ahead.
I wonder what kind of person Cary would have been if the kidnapper had taken him instead of his brother...
Imagine you're hanging out with your partner, when they randomly get mad and leave. Later, you find out that they were mad because they wanted to kill you but couldn't because the gardener was around...
Right. I was thinking the same thing. What it must've been like to find out that this man was going to kill you and your daughters but the gardener saved you once and his foolish mistake saved you the second time.
I thought the same thing.
I hate when that happens
Yeah that is a crazy scary scenario and I bet that woman’s never been the same since
I wonder what Cary's family thought of all this, having gone through their own personal hell when they were younger?
Moral of the story: If somebody knocks on your room at night or any other time of the day and introduces himself or herself as working for the hotel, dont trust that stranger even if he/she looks like one. Instead, call the front desk and confirm if they did sent somebody.
If it was legitimate, the office would have called them and told them.
But if it had been me I'd be dead because if he had identified himself as Cary Stayner I'd have let him in no questions asked for I would have remembered him from the reports and movie about his brother and would have believed I had nothing to fear. He was the last person I would have thought who'd do something like this.
I never would have let him in the room without calling the front desk. Moral of the story, don't let any random guy walk up to you if you're in a vulnerable position where no one's around
@@Kit1128 … and jamb a chair under the doorknob… The Sequoia Lodge is a well known landmark outside of Yosemite… know it well. Never stopped there an prolly Never Will. 💔💔💔💔…
Employees at hotels usually must wear a name tag. Why didnt these women notice this? Hell i worked part time at a nursing home and all employees were required to wear them at all times at work. If we'd forget our name tags we were told to go home and get them.
Imagine being his girlfriend and finding out how close you and your kids came to being killed, by the man you loved and trusted, twice!! I feel so bad for all of his victims. What a nasty piece of work.
And to know that the day he planned to murder you and your kids he got impatient and found someone else to murder.
The guy was messed up on the head
The heart of mankind is deceitfully wicked. Who can understand it? Jeremiah 17:9.
I drove alone from Washington state to California and I had a creepy experience. I stayed at a motel in one of those small towns by the 5 fwy. For some crazy reason my motel key card kept malfunctioning. So I kept going back to the front desk. Finally, the guy in the front desk was asking me if he could come over to my room to “fix” the card. I declined politely and stayed in my room the rest of the night barricading it. It just felt wrong. Carole must have felt the creepiness when Cary Stayner knocked on her door with his lame “excuse.” It’s ok to test all things to see if they are true. It could save our lives.
I cannot imagine being the girlfriend. I’m sure her blood ran cold hearing that he wanted to k*ll her daughters, too. I would never date again. I wouldn’t trust my own judgment enough to ever bring anyone new around my kids. On top of that, I’m sure she carries guilt about the others’ fates. That whole aspect of this story would be incredibly difficult to carry for the rest of your life. I hope she’s doing well and all three of them have had great lives since then. It’s just heartbreaking that two other young women were just about to start the rest of their lives.
This story is a prime example of why you NEVER trust strange men ..no matter what. If a "maintenance man" wants access to your hotel room, call the managers first to verify, and always tell them you want maintenance done when you're not in the room. I work at a hotel, that is your right as a guest.
You can’t always trust people men even you think they know them
Know that fromexaperirncd
Men and women both are valuable of hiding who they actually are
@Kevin BurgerKing that's ridiculous
@Kevin BurgerKing even if the comment is appropriated strange men and/or woman, the advice in that is on point. Maybe somebody will think twice and make a better decision 🤔
NEVER trust strange women….no matter what. If a “normal woman” wants your help, don’t help them because you’re most likely being set up which is proven by probably millions of cases each year.
@Kevin BurgerKing it's not sexist. As women, we are constantly monitoring for danger, and whenever we do experience danger it's usually a man. It's a collective experience, unfortunately.
I was born in the mid 80's, so I know life without cellphones. But just imagine "losing" your family and have no way of contacting them. Can hardly think of anything worse
Anybody remember calling your parents collect using a false or your middle name to single them you were where you were supposed to be? Then your Mom or Dad would deny the collect call so we wouldn’t be charged?
The first story happened in 1999
@@katiephalen3483 I was born in the late 70s and I remember doing the exact thing you're talking about.
Older than that and I remember those days. It was nerve-wracking times. Cellphones are LIFESAVERS.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest it could be nerve racking.
There was also a sort of cadence knowing when you get off work, that's it. No one can bother you or contact you. Just you and your family for the good days. But I know where you're coming from.
A slow lawnmowing job saved three people’s lives. That’s insane to me
Exactly! I would’ve been on the floor praying after that
And improper interrogation got 4 killed.
@@nayan7398 1 killed
That’s one way to look at it… Another way to look at it is a lawn mowing job took so long that it caused the death of three other women.
@Bender Bending Rodriguez Then they just decided to kill anyone and everyone with covid-19
the note that says "i had fun with this one" is one of the cruellest things i have ever heard. wth? how sick is that. what a monster
"WE had fun with this one" causing police to arrest the wrong guys, leading to Joie's horrible 💀. Truly monstrous!
He said "we". Check in the bible and you'll see demon possessed people often talk in plural because one person can have multiple demons. People think the spiritual world isn't real but it's very real, on the dark side and on the side of light and God.
*We
Sadly, it's seen pretty often on sexual assault cases.
Legend has it that one day this channel appeared randomly on your feed with strange, dark and mysterious stories and now you can’t stop watching it.
Omg. Yes.
I found this channel by accident and it's crazy how much I go back and binge watch those I've already seen. The caring and concerned voice for these families and the victims is heart warming. And the respect you give the victim as you tell their story is so appreciated.
This is not legend! It’s true! It’s happened to me. I’m now addicted…
Truth
Precisely what happened lol can't sleep either, terrified lmao also there's a stalker in an opposite house
The friend of the daughter was actually an exchange student from Argentina. Can you imagine how her family felt and what they went through? So sad.
My G was a Messi fan
So sad. Very disturbing.
Yes, she was an exchange student.. I went to highschool w the 2 girls. I remember thinking at the time about the exchange student's parents. How horrible thinking u are sending your daughter for the experience of a lifetime.. I remember feeling crushed under the weight of sadness for her family 🥺🙏😔
@@wallnut5910 what?
@@f.f5771 she’s from Argentina innit
What gets me the most is Carol had time to understand that her first reaction was correct and she shouldn't have let him in. I hate the fact that, that's probably one of the last things that poor woman had to deal with. What a monster
The only thing that could have been worse for her in the realization of what was happening, would have been to see or hear her daughter be raped and murdered, although she knew it would be coming for the daughter too. But those poor girls had to hear it happen to mom, knowing they'd be next... We can't even imagine the utter terror they all suffered.
@@katiezee2 I would have died fighting like a damn mama bear - I'd rather me & mine be shot dead then raped, tortured, stabbed, etc...
When I am home alone I never answer the door if I am not expecting someone.
My family, friends always call or text first it just habit.
Once that door is open your done.
I do not live in isolated place however crime is everywhere.
If you decide to break in I am not going to hesitate to make sure I am not a victim so good luck with that.
Not blaming her she was kind and trusting, tired as well.
@@MrStar700 i do live in a semi isolated place. I dont answer my door either. Like you. If someone comes in my pistol will be happy to make sure they don't stay long.
@@RepentfollowJesus 👍🏼
Your best attribute is that you give notoriety to the victims, while giving as little as you possibly can, while still getting the story across, towards the murderer.
This was a tough watch. I feel horrible that these ladies met such a monster.
Ppppp
Ik
Same
Lord have mercy on them
Damn. I was just at Yosemite a few weeks ago, so this is very disturbing to me.
I knew the 3 women who were murdered. My daughter went to school with the girls.
Thank you for the details, and the caring way you told their story.
Thats so sad :(
They all look so similar
No you don’t. How the fuck would you know a family from hundreds of miles away and a 26 year old isolated naturalist. Why lie about something like that?
@@rsod85 very true
@@rsod85: Only the three. Not the naturalist.
Something about this one got me. The fact that carol probably didn’t fight back even during her assault because she thought it’d save the girls life is heart wrenching. And the fact that poor Julie had to spend so much time alone with the bastard confused and scared but still hoping she’ll be okay is just too much. Amazing story telling but incredibly sad, I hope all these women Rest In Peace
Also, I've read a number of comments and no one pointed out what a ditz the mother was:
* Didn't bother to close the curtains all the way in their hotel room.
* Allowed dude to schmooze his way into the room without first confirming his story with the hotel staff via phone.
* Never noticed the dude tailing them most of the day.
And then maybe not as ill-conceived, but the other woman was willfully staying at an isolated cabin without any people or dogs and unarmed. I have enough of a moral conscience not to feel they deserved to die for their mistakes, don't get me wrong. It's sad and disturbing. This story's a good lesson about being vigilant when traveling, especially if you're in an isolated area in a small group or alone.
She never should have opened the door in the first place
@@PoochieCollins doesn’t matter what decisions they made- the dead don’t deserve to be disrespected and called “dumb” and a “ditz” they were abused and murdered. What you’re doing is called victim blaming and it isn’t cute.
@@affettatoprosciutto7139 : did you stop reading before my last paragraph?
@@PoochieCollins did you read mine at all? Despite you saying that they didn’t deserve to die. You still disrespected the dead and victim blamed by implying their choices and decisions are what got them killed. But no. What got them killed was that mans sick mind. Blaming their decisions for their death and saying they deserved to die are two different things. Please learn the difference. And you were still being disrespectful for no reason.
As a person who lives with PTSD, I would like to thank you. It's confusing to some people as to why I sleep with your stories playing.... and it's kind of hard for me to explain, but your voice is comforting, and as creepy as your stories are; they aren't my memories. One of my most disruptive symptoms is intrusive memories of the trauma at bedtime and you drown it out. The stories are engaging enough to distract my mind and your voice is soothing enough that I can sleep to it. I am quite sure that I am not the only person who uses your stories for this purpose, and I just want to say thank you. It's really very difficult for me to find material that actually works for me sleep wise (it seems to be exclusively creepy/true crime in story format with Male narrators). Thank you for uploading so prolifically. Sleep is essential for being able to manage my other PTSD symptoms, and it's the difference between being able to manage productively and everything going sideways. If I stop getting enough sleep, things get weird.
Same here. I’m having trouble sleeping before due to some depressing matters. Glad I came upon MrBallen’s stories. I could sleep easy knowing that there’s a comforting voice telling me bed time stories (as my mom did when I was a child). Also, I sometimes have to wake up at odd hours for my job. Use the same method to sleep earlier than usual. Thanks MrBallen. Love all your stories.
On a side note, my sympathies to the families that are affected by this crime. 😢
I sleep to MrBallen's stories too. There's something soothing and calming about his voice
@@stwartic4296
He's an AIR🌬sign..🌬🌬👂😌
They All have this affect on ppl!😊
This is so relatable...I also love horror movies - there's a catharsis there somehow. As you said, not my memories. When you know what real horror is, you're pretty much unfazed by anything else.
I cried when I read your post because I have a PTSD too. I use it for the same purpose and reading your post gave me chills because I feel as you do about what people can’t or don’t understand about PTSD. When you said drown out thoughts - tears rolled down my face!! Thank you for your post. ❤
i literally felt a gut renching feeling the moment i heard "we had fun with this one".....how could someone be so evil
Haven't watched the video yet I'm only wondering wtf that picture is. You turned a beautiful swedish nurse into a dunderhead 😭🙏
I know that literally made my skin crawl. I imagine it was like the movie “I Spit ON Your Grave”. It’s super intense. Which is how I wish all the situations ended.
Not me. I may not be a pedophile but that kinda sounds like something you'd hear from a video game or tv show. I just couldn't help but chuckle a bit when I heard that.
@Jason Shults Trump being one of them...lying about the dangers of Covid19...and making it sound like it was a "nothing burger" even tho he talked to Mr. Woodward...and told him how deadly and dangerous it was...he continued his crusade(and to this day) still influences his followers to make the covid19 vaccine...seem like it is some kind of bad thing....
Same. That phrase really messed with me.
The Girlfriend with her daughters that wasn’t killed because of the handyman that started THAT DAY...reminds me of No Country for Old Men and the random luck that can lead to whether you live or die, and you may not even know anything ever about it. Makes me wonder how many people on a given day avoid death by random luck without ever even knowing it.
I ask myself how often I nearly died or met some gruesome end. Without knowing.
@Jeremy S
I know, right? Can you imagine how terrifying it would be to know you and your kids were the target of a deranged maniac, after the fact? And THAT person was your own boyfriend? I wonder why that woman, to her credit, had contracted the help of some other person to help her with those chores, instead of her "handyman" boyfriend?
Man, life's weird. And, scary.
It’s very interesting I’ve met people who have killed others , they seem normal but you really can never know what crosses someone’s mind
@@jontorres1991 are they in prison..?
Quote from a song:
God only knows the times my life
Was threatened just today
A reckless car ran out of gas
Before it ran my way
Near misses all around me
Accidents unknown
Though I never see with human eyes
The Hands that lead me home
I cannot/ do not want to even imagine the devastation, pain and suffering a parent feels when losing a child/children, but to have your child murdered AND beheaded, that’s just beyond words.
John Walsh of America’s most wanted, his son Adam was kidnapped and beheaded. He’s been committed to putting these monsters behind bars since. People are sickening!!
I’ve read his book about Adam. So unbelievably sad as to what happened.
@@joek9353 My family watched the made for TV movie about Adam in the 80s. My Daddy was not a very emotional man but, he cried during the movie when the boy was found. I learned that there was evil in the world seeing it as a little girl. I'll never forget it.
I did meet John Walsh in the early 90s at the restaurant I was working at and thanked him for being amazing for what he did.
I wouldn't be able to survive that honestly. The mothers that do survive have a level of strength beyond anything else.
@@BriEMcN I lost my 25 year old daughter in July. She was my middle daughter and I had her little brother late in life and have a teenager at home who needs me and my oldest daughter was best friends with her sister. She needed me just as much as my son (he lost his Dad the month before!)
I had to be there for my other kids but, I am struggling for strength. I've never been so sad . My life had changed forever. My daughter had many different friends from all over the Country where she traveled. It's been very hard to explain her death over and over to people who didn't know she had passed away at least once a week. I am still having nightmares. If I didn't have my other kids and my husband...I wouldn't be here right now. I was born to be a Mother and wouldn't want to be here if I didn't have my children.
One of if not THE BEST story tellers on TH-cam, Facebook, etc. The way Mr.Ballen explains these stories in as much detail he can along with showing pictures, the added sound effects, and his emphasis on certain parts and words in the story make it 100x better.
This is the most horrifying retelling of these events I've heard. I can't imagine the fear these women felt, or how his girlfriend must feel knowing how close it was to being her and her daughters.
I try to take these things that are disturbing to watch and ground them in something objective, like using this as another reason to be intelligently conscious of things around me. Not just for being a victim, but for others who can be.
Just to clarify…Silvina was not a “long time friend” of Julie’s. She was an exchange student from Brazil that the family was very graciously hosting for a school term. Makes it even more tragic
Oh wow how awful. Her poor family!
Sorry for being pedantic , but she was from Argentina.
@@JohnDoe-qy3up Thanks for the correction. And, yes, I do recall that now.
I wouldn’t consider it being pedantic, just clarification. Thanks
Exactly not something you want to do is implicate foreign exchange shame
I'll never grasp how someone can kill someone so effortlessly and mentally uninvolved. If I see a kitten limping outside, I'll literally spend the day feeling sadly sympathetic. How can someone just not feel those things? Remorse, empathy, guilt, etc. The brain is one incredible and fascinating, yet utterly terrifying thing.
Psychopaths just don’t have any empathy man it’s scary. 1 in 100 people in the world are like this. Most live very normal lives but some...
It sounds bad until you do it.
They don't have a soul and lack empathy.They are like a machine and compartmentalize! Psychopaths run our world!
I feel bad when i see injured or dead animals but I like animals people are mostly scum and so I feel very little when witnessing their suffering.
Indifference that’s how
I remember this all to well Cary Stayner was caught near where I was living at the time, in Wilton northern California. Very Rural area he was staying at Del Sol, nudist resort. What I found beyond disturbing was the fact that Detectives actually asked Cary to help them, he gave them blankets and a few other items that they needed for fiber comparison. Also, while being questioned by the FBI, never once did officers ask to look in the backpack that Cary had with him. Turns out the bag had numerous notebooks with outrageous violent drawings! If they would had just taken a peek, Joie Ruth Armstrong would still be alive! That still breaks my heart!
At least they caught him before he went to kill his girlfriend and her family. They were incredibly lucky through all of this. I cannot understand how someone can go through the horror of having a loved one abducted, and then go do the same (and worse) to other people. His story is so disturbing.
How are cops that dumb, any one can have any evil intention at any time, why do they think they can trust someone they don’t know well (like a parent, close friend etc)
@@joelschmierer3544 It wasn't really dumb to not search his bag. At the time he wasn't a suspect any more than any other employee of the hotel or park was. If the police searched through the belongings of everyone they ever talked to it would usually be a massive waste of time and would probably make people less inclined to talk to the police in general.
@@xzonia1 I am almost sure that his experiences with his brother are somehow even the cause for his actions. I am no psychologist, but it doesn't seem unbelievable to me that the mind of one person could react in this way to the trauma. Violence leads to more violence...
@@gregorgiebel1377 A psuedo-stockholm-placebo effect or something yeah
LISTEN TO YOUR INTUITION, even if you might come off as "rude", she originally wasn't buying the handyman story.
Deadass. Late-night maintenance visits are sketchy AF. Always call the front desk. Don't be afraid to make a scene when you feel threatened!
Need more than that. I think he would have killed them anyway, he was so desperate and prepared.
I had a Maintenance Man who I’ve never seen and I lived in my apartment for like five years at this point and I knew all the handyman and when he came in he locked the door behind him I freaked out grabbed a knife unlocked it and ran and called my boyfriend who came home and it turns out he was a legit he just had gotten hired but who the fuck lock the door behind a woman in their own apartment who they don’t know and I didn’t know anything about a repair yeah
@@meganjonas3421 if he was black you'd be labeled a racist. Stop promoting gender stereotypes
@@savagetv6460 wtf seriously??
"we had fun with this one" That is just a new level of cruel.... I can't imagine the terror these three women endured....
two of them were children
@@dollbabyy13 young women,your point?
@@mariaduszak9064 not women
@Yerba Terro lol ok yerba
What about the 4th one!? That was the worst of all... 😰
Word of advice, if a “robber” ever wants to tie you up/blindfold you, fight them. Idc if its to the death. If they tie you up they most likely will take you somewhere else and that can only mean terrible things. This story is so sad
Good advice. If a gun is ever pointed at you, rush the robber. They won’t expect you to not comply and it will catch them off guard, ultimately giving you the upper hand. Though if you are woman, this might be easier said than done, but it is possible. Aim for the nose when you tackle them, this will cause them to be in a state of shock and then wail on them until they are either unconscious or dead.
I always tell myself, if I find myself in a situation like this, act like a crazy bitch and attack.
I think we all do believe that we would just rush them, even knowing we could easily die. But I think in the momemt you will have hope that this extreme risk is not necessary and the other peroson will not really harm you. Because if you rush someone with a gun (or a weapon), chances are you are dead or badly wounded befor you could do much.
But I agree, if a robber wants to tie me up I would resist no matter what. At this point I would have to assume that I am dead either way. Beeing shot is hopefully faster.
💯 in Krav Maga they say the same. Don't get in the car (or whatever they tell you). Once you are in the car it's over for you. Your chance is now.
I would like to believe I would know how to respond in such circumstances, God forbid I ever have to. But I totally agree, they better fulfill their threat, cause they're not subduing me without a fight. Imagine how 3 of them could've maneuvered this without getting tied up, despite there being a gun held against them. So sad.
Shout out to the high school students who gave Carole’s wallet to the police. Most kids would steal the money, cards, and just leave the wallet where they found it. Who knows, maybe it would’ve made a difference in the case if that happened. Wouldn’t be surprised if they took some cash but still better than most people
He placed it on purpose near a high school to be found, so he likely left it without any valuable items to avoid it being stolen. But I get what you mean
@@jacksonrishel2644 Their point still stands. Who would turn in an empty wallet to the police? Not many
@@cottoncandiez8872 agreed
I like the way you cast aspersions on kids, when prisons are full of fully grown reprobates
@@cottoncandiez8872 I’ve lost my wallet four times in my life and had it returned with everything in it. One time I didn’t expect to get it back because there was an awful lot of money in it. But I got it back with every last penny in there
"we dont know what colour her hair is yet"
that line made me shiver, i knew immediately why they didn't know
I thought she might’ve been set on fire or something but I cannot imagine how the mother felt
@@adameddington4019 neither can i, and i'm glad i haven't felt that kind of grief. no one deserves to die that way, nor does anyone deserve to have someone they love die that way. i'm sure it did a number on Joie's mother, same for Carole's husband. i hope they're all doing better knowing the shitstain that took the lives of Joie, Carole, Juli, and Silvina will be rotting in prison until he receives his punishment.
@@lowdowngrittyngrimey it’s just wild to me that people can do those things. It was just a “urge” that he had since he was SEVEN. How did nobody notice he was crazy.
What
@@adameddington4019 Some people are good at hiding who they really are, its disturbing to know that the person sitting next to you could be a murderer at any point.
You’ve crossed a line with that like button treatment.
Nobody deserves Pizza by Alfredo.
why do i always find your comments?
Hahah
Hot circle of garbage.
It's a hot circle of garbage
@@Acefakeboo same! I've found them on videos that have nothing to do with topics like this
Legend says mrballen’s parents didn’t tell him bedtime story’s he told them the story’s😰
Legend says MrBallen's parents were terrified by his stories & often had nightmares.
Hahaha LOVE this comment!
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legend says that they had to enter psychiatric wards out of fear
His kids are lucky😇
Gripping storyteller! Once you start a story, I can't look away. And I always remember YOUR story of your service to our country, and your time in hospital. As always, I thank you and your brothers & sisters in service...thank you!
‘Pulled her up on her feet, told her “I love you” then slashed her throat and pushed her over the lake”
That is the most disgusting, haunting thing I have ever heard. It made me want to puke.
Many feel that way,
But deep down wouldn't you like a night under the stars, giving back to nature,...
Then go home and clean the dirt off the shovel .
No there’s these two black guys, they held 2 women and 2 men hostage in Wisconsin, they made the men assault the woman, then they assaulted the woman, then shot all of them, then took a truck and ran over them. Then killed the family dog, one of the woman lived, that was some sick assholes, they were real brothers. And I guess still in prison now.
I hear you...this was a really bad one.
@@DevilsInBaggyPants1941 sound like a slave master treatment to one of his family of slaves. Just universal racism karma coming back to bite
@@matthewreid5605 karmas put on who deserved it, not innocent...dummy
Survival tip: Next time someone tries to come in my hotel room at night, I'll call the front desk to make sure they sent that person and why.....
Even if the front desk did send them never ever ever open the door
@@Sassy-pants68 Oh, yeah, definitely!
Survival tip 2: Nah. If you don't recognize the person when you look out the peep hole, and it's the middle of the night, they can come back in the morning. If the front desk needs to get in your room at midnight they can send a police officer to speak with you about it. The front desk could easily be in on your demise so don't trust them either.
@@Janellabelle Excellent advice! I hadn't thought of that.
Having been a night auditor at a hotel, I can assure you that we were strictly prohibited from entering an occupied room at all costs.
If there was an issue, we essentially had to book them into a separate room and then address the issue after they had vacated the room in question.
Unless the fire alarm is going off, a hotel staff member should never try to enter your room with you in it.
Genuinely sad and scary. How many people do we pass on a daily basis that have these fantasies and opportunity to cause such harm? How many times when I have traveled alone with my children have I met folks like this man? 😶 Thank God for grace, mercy and protection.
Think of his gf finding out how close she and her daughters were to being killed.
I hope for her safety they don't release him like they do so many others.
Here is her reaction: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6632751/Woman-targeted-Yosemite-serial-killer-speaks-time-Cary-Stayner.html
So weird to think their lives were spared cause of a simple decision to hire someone to do some work around the house. Wonder if she was suspicious at all...
@@MrBallen thanks for the follow up
@@sandyclaws5247twice at that
As tragic as this is, people need to realise that if someone is committing any serious crime and they reveal their face, then it’s safe to assume they have no intentions of letting you live as you are able to later identify them. Fight for your life, struggle hard, if nothing else don’t let them easily carry out whatever sick plan they have. Even a quick death will likely be better than what these bastards have in mind.
Agreed! A body guard for celebrities more than once, giving tactics for safety, stressed to if anyway possible never allow yourself to taken from scene A to scene B, as more than not scene C will be where your remains are found.
@@mslascorpia Are you sure you’re not thinking of retired Chicago policeman, public speaker, and host of “Tough Target”, JJ Bittenbinder?
Well said
First sign was letting a man i to your house when there was no way to stop him (no other men in house, no loaded weapons etc), and second sign was letting you get tied up, you are as good as dead if you ever agree to being restrained in any way
I was robbed at gunpoint with my boyfriend by 2 men. They dragged him back to their car and the other rummaged through the truck as I sat there. I was smoking weed and had taken a Xanax so I was not coherent and it wasn't processing. He grabbed my purse and then pointed the gun at me and told me to get out of the car. I did. Then I razzed him and started Sassing off saying "you gonna kill me? Kill me. You'll be doing me a favor. Do it." Then he told me to get in the bushes. I refused and said "no, not happening. Take what you have there and leave." I kept harassing him. He called back to the other man asking what to do with "this b*tch" his friend said just leave her. They let go of my boyfriend and he got back in the car. We proceeded to go to my house and call the cops. I survived because I wouldn't comply and it really threw that man off. I'm thankful every day I lived. It could have been so much worse.
That gardener was a hero and he didn't even know it.
:( i would marry his ass
@@sleezyog1407 his ass?
@@nathankirby4612 lol 😂😂😂😂
@@sleezyog1407 Yeah, me too, if I was a woman 😂
The girlfriend hired him. She's the hero lol
Imagine randomly hiring a handyman, and solely being alive because he was at your house that day. That poor girlfriend was probably so traumatized. The man she loved, the man that met her kids, spent time and probably holidays with, etc. was fucking fantasizing about raping, torturing, and murdering her and her family. What a bag of shit. I hope her and her kids are safe and healthy, and live the best, happiest lives possible.
You are over-exaggerating. They may as well just met and got together a week before that. The woman was very very luck, she may as well date the handyman as a "thanks", lol!
@@godnyx117
First you think she was "exaggerating",THEN you say something so f'd up ABOUT HOW THE GF MIGHT AS WELL HAVE DATED THE HANDYMAN ~~AS A "THANKS" and you "lol"
...
YOU ARE TWISTED AF.
@alexleigh33 ❤️For REAL and THEN I READ @godnyx117 reply, THAT SICK & TWISTED MF ~~whom thinks you are "over-exaggerating "!
Seriously??
Sounds like @godnyx117 knows EXACTLY WHAT & HOW RAPISTS and MURDERERS of women & young girls THINK and STALK THEIR VICTIMS/PREY..
(bc he thinks you are "OVER-EXAGGERATING"!😳
wow.
@@janetgrooms4577 So, your problem is the world that I used? English is not my native language so maybe there are better word I could had used IF my level was better.
What about catching the meaning of the comment instead of just replying for the sake of just doing it?
@@godnyx117
Let it go man! At the end of the day
NOBODY GAF what ANYONE comments about,
UNLESS of course, someone posts a comment that is offensive, extremely rude OR is just an internet troLL..
My opinion regarding your post is of no consequence, what YOU posted bothered me because I'm familiar with that particular incident about the Mother, Daughter and the Daughters friend..
I thought you were rather disrespectful, because you put a lol in your comment and there was NOTHING to laugh about what happened to the victims by thAt rapist/murderer..
The way the fibres were tied to the 1st suspects but once they had a confession from the 2nd suspect it was declared that "OH, actually it turns out that those fibres were linked to a very common blanket that could belong to millions!" It makes me wonder how many false convictions police have pinned on innocent suspects
Forensics is pseudoscience. There are very few types of evidence that are definitive. DNA and dental records are a couple that are.
@@digitalphreak it's true. Hair analysis had been proven to be hit or miss, and so has bite mark analysis. Many people now believe that all forensic science is infallible. This is not the case. All evidence can be contaminated, degraded, or mishandled, which drives down the accuracy of forensic evidence.
Don't even get me started on polygraphs...
ACAB!
A wholeeeeee aloooooottttttt!!!! Baby
Tells the stories so good, just wish they weren't true. Get lost in the story, then remember it's real and you get this awful feeling
If it wasn't real, lots of people wouldn't be here.. who likes fake stuff??? Surely not me
Yes! I totally agree, had that enjoyment feeling until the end and realized from an empathetic point of view how horrible this drawn out murder was for that last girl. Amazing story teller, but horrific early finish to that poor girl
John is a natural storyteller who has a gift of keeping his listeners focused and drawn into the story world. I think this episode is a horrible but unfortunately very real warning to all women that we really do have to look out for these types of people with dark intent that see women as something to be controlled used and abused. Listen to your intuition. For example: if you get a bad or nervous feeling about someone or something trust it and: get out of there/ don't open the door if it doesn't feel right/ don't go out that night/ whatever your intuition tells you. Trust yourself if it feels off and don't endanger yourself and anyone with you.
Yes! So true 😢😪😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I reeeeeeeally hope he's making all of this up for clout. I pray.
Just hearing about women being sexually assaulted makes me sick to my stomach and extremely angry. I don't know how anyone can enjoy or get off on that. Anyone who does that should be castrated.
The same for the women who enjoy this kind of thing.
@@JohnMiller-zr8pl Too bad the U.S. doesn't think a woman can sexually assault a man they usually laugh at men who tell the police. And when they do the woman gets severely less time incarcerated than a man.
@@antviper135 stunning and brave indeed
Castration is a slap on the wrist compared to what I would do to them.
They should be killed in the most Terrifying way. Death penalty is not so painful. This type of shitty killers should be killed slowly, Making Them suffer for days. They should realise what their victims went through. I wish I could change the laws.
Give him to me!!! I will make him see hell!!!
This is in response to some of the comments I read...I once saw a detective on tv talking about abductions. He said if someone tries to force you into their vehicle fight for your life because if you get into the vehicle your chances of survival go way down. I've always told my girls to fight like hell if that ever happens (God forbid!) to them. And always trust your instincts!
These stories are so scary I literally find myself noticing my surrounding before I exit my car and walking around my house making sure every door and window is locked, and don’t have me think I see a shadow!! 😳 great story telling
That's good. You should also have pepper spray always with you.
Yes, you get kinda paranoid. I experience heightened awareness of my situation.
Same!! I just made my husband put a chair under our apt door for a extra safety precaution.. We both giggled then my husband said it's pretty sad that we do have to take extra precautions nowadays smh!!
You should have been watching your surroundings Every second in the first place. That's why these storeys exist.
These stories have made me super alert to everything and anything. I used to go jogging in a large wooded park near my house...don't do that anymore thanks to Mrballen!
He’s an incredible story teller… respectful whilst giving us the facts.
Crazy that his brother was kidnapped for 7 years and his family failed him when he returned
What do you mean?
These videos are literally the healthiest addiction I've ever had.
Absolutely!
Me too😄👍👍👍👍👍
Agreed!
For sure, it’s free and ur not hurting u or others 😂
I don't think it's super healthy to watch videos like this everyday, but it's some incredibly exciting and heartbreaking stories. but its too much death and sadness for my mind, to receive everyday. maybe im just too weak lol.
Never ever let someone into your space like that, even if they seem legit. Weird circumstances will feel weird for a reason. Trust your gut like the mom did at first. Call the front desk if you have to. Also never ever trust someone if they say “it’s just a robbery” but go through all that trouble to tie you up, etc.
Yeah buddy I'm sure you've been in the situation many times before. Thanks for you valuable input.
Classic BTK line
@@dolphmcfearless3068 way to be a douche for no apparent reason 👎
@@Newjerseyblows the reason is it's implicit victim blaming
Your pretty 🥰😘
This is one of the most disturbing and heartbreaking story you’ve covered. I’m deeply saddened for these women.
There are 2 stories in particular that haunt me.
The “Tampa Bay” story..
and the “boat robbery”.
🤦🏽♂️ oh man… there is no God.
Not like must of us have been taught to believe.
No way!
You should look up the rest of the story! His brother was kidnapped as a child for 7 years
Is it the one with mom and two daughters that went on their last boat ride and the guy was caught bc some old lady recognized his handwriting? Horrible. I felt so bad for dad alone on his farm. I hope he’s ok now. 🤟🏼
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YES!! 🤦🏽♂️
The daughter had already been sexually abused. This was the whole point of this trip. Then what happened to them is unimaginable.
There is no God. 😞
@@tinawindham6958
He’ll NEVER be “ok”.
This story made me feel sick to my stomach and my daughter is hitting her teen years if anything happened to her it would destroy me. I'm glad you give as much focus to the victims as the perpetrator as their stories need to be heard
My oldest brother died 2 days ago. I really needed a temporary escape. Thank you MrBallen
im so sorry to hear about your loss... just get through each moment as it comes. good luck
Sorry fir your loss. 😔
May your brother rest in peace! 🤗
I lost my Mom 4 years ago and I'll tell you that it never gets easier. But you will learn to live everyday without breaking down. I still cry when I talk about her but I don't fully explode into tears.
I'm sorry for your loss
One second at a time
One minute at a time
One hour at a time
One day at a time. ❤
This is truly a heartbreaking case. Always the innocent who pay.
It made me cry. I have daughters
What freaking disgusting people that could say we had fun w this one. Talking about a child they murdered. That’s truly horrific.
@@celeste.cutz2020 yeah honestly makes me want to take those kind of ppl and torture them to the brink of death. Then wait till they recover and repeat till they die of natural causes
@@alexkim3794 i never felt like a violent person until I had a child and hear stories like these and imagine what i'd do to someone if they hurt her :/
I followed this in the media. Ironically I had been planning a trip to that area at the time. I wound up cancelling the trip and have never been able to reschedule it. It sad because it's a lovely place. It has changed my life. I used to camp and cave solo all the time. After this and the Appalachian Trail murders I was just too afraid
This content gave me sweaty armpits and an elevated heart rate.
"Distressing" isn't even scratching the surface.
Really? All it did for me, is make me want a hamburger...?
I need breakfast.
I've said it once and I'll say it many more times, Mr. Ballen is a gifted storyteller. He is so engaging and makes stories that you've heard before intersting and new. I remembered this story as soon as he started. I remember it being chronicled on The Oprah Winfrey show when I was a kid and it has stuck with me ever since. It's so sad how someone can be having the time of their life in one moment and then thrust into the middle of their darkest nightmare the next.
Thank you for bringing a more humanistic way to listen to crime stories. Most people just talk about the murderers at the expense of the victims. You talk about the victims and re-humanise them.
Yes, I agree! So many people just focus on the killers and forget about the victims.
A lot of the true crime content on YT has been turning into what is essentially torture porn. It's really sad to see, and even more sad once you realise that they only make their content this way because there is a huge demand. Wtf is wrong with people
Like Simon Whistler always says, less saw, more CSI
I totally agree but others like myself are just not too experienced at story telling@@andrediamond4374
That guy who was working outside of Carry’s girlfriends house basically saved there lives.
I'm sure that's something she thinks about all the time.
It saved three lives but also cost three other lives, as he wouldn't have had the time to kill carol and her family as they were going to catch a flight the next day.
*their lives! - Grammar Police Special Agent
But unintentionally doomed the others at the hotel.
their*
Mr Ballen is like a drug. Once you’ve listened to him once you are hooked. Who else agrees
Yes
I definitely agree
Here here
Nah really tho. I check ever fkN day!!!! TellN myself “maybe tm?!”
The only acceptable drug is MrBallen.
you never let anyone tie you up. fight for your life.
I can’t get around the fact that at 7 years old he fantasize about killing someone...like wtf! He’s 7 years old! Why is a thought like that in his mind?
His brother was abducted by a sick man who kept him from 7 to 14 years old and he escaped when the man brought another child. The kid said nope this ain't happenin no nobody else mfr. He escaped with the younger child on his back.
A lot of people like to blame anything they can, but the truth is some people are born sick and evil. Just like some people are born good natured.
@@GrandPrix46 What about those of us that are both? I love kids and animals among others. But "people" like this guy would be fun to get positively medieval on.
@@GrandPrix46 Nobody's born neither. You really are joining the ignorant side of the world. The ignorance IS the greatest evil in the world. And most of it is concentrated in US.
@@roadiejames wow I wish his brother would've turned out to be a hero like him
If I've learned anything from horror stories, not only do you never let someone take you to a secondary location. Never let them tie you up.
Yes. Very good information. @Amanda
@Princess Buttercup there was 3 of them I would rather risk getting shot because most likely the killer doesn't want to make noise but then again u never Kno wut ull do until ur in that situation
Never park next to vans, follow the cry of a baby and always listen to your gut.
@@c.washington6693 IF you get the chance..predators are not pulling a gun waiting for your choice to go or fight...before you even understand what's happening your already gone..that is the reality. Understand.if taken to a second location in a story you hear about does not mean they complied either...
Yep, we'd have found out if that mfer knew how to use that handgun or not. I doubt it was condition 0, and you don't have time to rack a round in close quarters like that. It's getting noisy in that room, for sure.
"And as he turns, he sees-" *ad break* "A fun, easy way to make cash!"
Cha-ching
lmao
Really I was told I could save 15% or more with geico
😂🤣😂
“…I developed this game because as a kid I loved Pokémon…”
Love your stories. The detail you come out with and the enthusiasm you have is second to none. Thank you 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I love the little details that you give such as their room number, exactly how their trip was going, and other stuff unnecessary for our understanding of the story, but yet makes it 10 times more enjoyable! Thankyou
having a young daughter myself listening to your stories makes me very more aware of my surroundings and never to trust ANYONE even if their intentions seem harmless. You really never know what someone is really capable of. My heart hurts so bad for these innocent victims and their families.
Yes. And NEVER let anyone into your hotel room. At any time you are there. Close it and lock it and call the front desk.
I was just in a really cheap hotel on a 13 hour trip. Lights were hanging by wires and toilet didn’t work and the extra security clasp had been broken off. I would have never brought my family there but I was alone. I moved the fridge in front of the door and jammed a chair under the door knob and kept a few beer bottles on the night stand just in case.
@@sakbrat1 That's what I was thinking. If I don't know the person on the other side of that door after looking through the peephole, I will call the desk and tell them that "I don't know why someone I don't know is on the other side of the door, but you need to get over here and handle it." I trust no one.
You could always move to a first world country. America is destroying itself. Hopefully you won't take everyone down with you.
@@keithbentley6081 US is doing a good job at destroying the EU and Ukraine
Hello from Ukrainian-Canadian 🇺🇦🇨🇦
Steven Stayner seemed to be the complete opposite of Cary. During his time being kidnapped he would keep other children from being abducted. The only reason he was found was because he was returning a child to the police station. Maybe that is what also made Cary becomes so jealous of Steven. Because not only did he get all the “attention” from being kidnapped but he was obviously just a better as a human being in general.
@MrBallen Did you ever see the movie called "my real name is Steven." It was Steven Stayner it was an excellent movie. I think it was a 2 day saga. They were brothers. In fact Steven ended up getting married had a couple kids and he died in a motorcycle accident in Bakersfield California and passed away. And then after that that's when his brother killed those people in Yosemite.
‘I know my first name is Steven’
1989
Wow, interesting
It’s really sad that Steven died so young and Cary didn’t.
@@YaYa-ke1zr The man who wrote the book by that same name, "I know my first name is Steven", would later die in jail while awaiting trial for exposing himself. Up until that point, he had been a staunch advocate against pedophilia and even trolling chat rooms for pedophiles. I guess he was really just hiding from himself the entire time.
Just a bizarre, coincidental, and sad case all the way around.
I can't even imagine being a male and not having to worry, every single day, about being victimized by a male. This is something we women live with ALL of our lives. It's not something that is constantly gnawing at you but it's always in the back of your mind. Always. It's how we live. Men have no idea that this is the way it is for us.
It's even worse when little girls are molested at young age, it's strips them of their innocence and they learn very quickly how monstrous some men are. So even little girls worry about it and it stays with them into adulthood. Nearly every woman I've met, including myself have been molested before the age of 10. It's so sad and absolutely disgusting how often this happens and how many men do this.
rather you than me
And then they have the audacity to be offended when we don't want to talk to them
What about my mother who used to beat me and my brothers?
@@Plumberboi91 I'm terribly sorry your mother was such a horrible person. There is no excuse for that and she never should have had kids. But what I'm talking about is different. It's the 24-hour a day fear of rape which you, traumatized as you were, still know nothing about. Now that you're out of her clutches, luckily, your threat has passed. Ours remains for a lifetime.
Ghosts sit around campfires and listen to MrBallen stories.
There is no service out there. I tried.
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That sounds like a lot of fun though. Spooky but fun.
Hahahahahhahahahahhahha
Jumex sucks
@@illeagle9560 , what?
I’m sure this has been said ( I’m new to this guy), but I love how this guy humanizes the victims of these horrific crimes. Most crime shows only focus on the perpetrator. It really goes to show that these victims are regular people just like us. Love this guy already!
i mean its said in the pinned + top comment so... + plus generally people dont start by saying "im sure this has been said..." unless they know for a fact it has been said a lot, they just say whatever come to their minds. like why would they worry about "is this something that has been said a lot" without caring about checking if it has been said a lot first
this was my expose on why i dont believe you
As a 7 year old kid , I just wanted to be an astronaut.
Good
Stay in school and steer clear of shitty people. You can do it, kid.
Its for mature audiences ..What are you doing here..???
@@Elite.Rockers he’s trying to say when he was 7 years old. Not saying he is 7 years old
It's a joke lmao 🤣
Can you imagine being his girlfriend not knowing that your boyfriend planned to kill you and your two young children who were only 10 and 11 years old but the worker you hired saved your life. A worker who took his time saved your life? I couldn’t even imagine!
I can’t imagine how his girlfriend felt knowing it was inevitably going to be her and her children he wanted
I believe he didn't kill then as he knew he would be a suspect then for sure (self preservation of a killer).
I can't explain the anger this story brought me. Specially the hotel part...
Makes you want to go all vigilante on these fucks.
too much
@@aaronsmith4940 People are being vigilantes now, just in silence.
@@carlosT3000 I really hope you're right.
@@AK00777 There was a news report Yesterday about a person who killed a rapist and carved rapist on the guy stomach after killing him in his apartment building halfway. There are also people who go out robbing and killing drug dealers.
Never, ever let someone take you to a secondary location. Things will only get worse. I feel so bad for this guy’s victims. I truly hope there is a special place in hell for people like him.
Yes the cops even say it's better to fight because more than likely you're not going to live anyway
Exactly that's what John Walsh said I remember him saying that on America's most wanted. Never let them take you to second location . I'm now 44 years old crazy what you remember as a kid.
I learned that from the videos they used to make you watch when.you got a job in retail. They say fall down and dont get up. If they shoot you there at least you have a chance of medical saving you but if you go with them its almost guaranteed you are toast.
Yup! Fight with all you got and do it in a situation where you’re at least familiar with your surroundings.
Especially if you’re a woman.My parents engrained into my brain growing up.You fight like hell if they try to take you to another place,you use anything and everything you can as a weapon
You somehow seem a lot more impacted by this story than some of the others. I remember this story well. I live in CA and at that time, I was in my 20s. The media coverage was crazy and everyone was shocked.
"We had fun with this one!" After 35 yrs on this earth I'm still shocked that people can be that cruel and inhumane.
What a sick thing to write indeed
I am not surprised we have the worst psychopaths and we make them our politicians and bankers we play the game of wild cavemen and we are going to destroy each other in wars while they shit laughing at seeing us torn apart and yet we are stupid enough to follow them and not do nothing against him, an example the pedophile of biden, the rothschild dynasty of war criminals financed the first and second world wars on both sides
If only you knew the things that I know then you would understand and I am not talking about crazy reptilian theories I am talking about truly frightening things that are true and there is evidence if you look for them if you only knew you would lose faith in humanity and seeing today being realistic hopes do not seem to exist I can only see a darkness that spreads without opposition the light is a sad memory that will never resurface
@Loh I've seen cruelty. I was the brunt of cruelty before I was 3 yrs old. I have no idea why it shocks me other then the sheer nature of the offense, but it always will.
@L 100%! Im positive from a few broken memories that there was a serious incident at the age of 3. And if not multiple more. There are repressed memories from my childhood and honestly terrified to figure them out.
This title deserves a reward
Yes, yes it does
Ikr🤣
Yesss
Awwwweeeyaaaa bub? U don't say? Hairy balls in the sun?
@@wooderson6616 h-hairy balls in the sun-?
My heart breaks for the father that lost his wife and daughter in one instance. He’s waiting in Arizona for them to never show. Sad for Silvana’s and Joie’s mother/family as well. You never know who you’re walking or what they’re thinking. Crazy world out there.
The sadness that follows knowing someone ruthlessly murdered your family. This is why we need the death penalty
sadly you can say the same for the other girl.. you let your child go with her friend and her mother to have fun.. and then she never returns
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I hope he doesn't get the death penalty. That's the easy way out. I hope he spends the rest of this miserable life in prison!!
What’s worse is that it’s entirely possible there were some people in the father/husband’s life who believed that he had something to do with it.
You can be 100% genuinely innocent but in the eyes of public opinion and even in law enforcement you must have done it.
@@DavidRodriguez-gl5pn death would be to easy instead they should say that he’s going to get the death sentence, then put him in the chair and fake execute him just to torture him
This is one of the scariest and most disturbing one of these stories I've heard, I hope that the families involved are healing, and that something like this never happens again
He also brushed Juli's hair before he killed her. I don't know why but that is so horrifying to me.
I think it's because that is fake affection. He didn't care for her
I think the Solange for that is MINDF@#$ the victim - scare the crap out of the victim, then comfort - so horrific. Just sick.
His brother back story is just another level of crazy in this crazy story.
Was the brother's backstory wvwn real? Or did he make it up? Or heck was he even the one who did it? That would also tend to explain why his fantasies started at 7.
@@deborahhanna9126 yes, his brother's abduction and release was huge in the media. Check it out, it's crazy. The animal who kept the brother actually made him scout out for other boys to kidnap. Total case of Stockholm Syndrome. But thankfully the brother was able to get free and return home after 7 years.
The fact that he was a serial killer active in Yosemite, I wonder if that can give any legitimacy to some of these Missing 411 cases…
Exactly. How long was he active before getting caught in ‘99. Who’s to say the murders he confessed to are the only ones!? 👀
This is just one of many stories that we know of. I’m sure there are even more stories we will never know. The forest are thick, the desert is vast, the swamps are deep, the world is scary.
That needs to be embroidered on fancy cloth.
But they didn't disappear inside Yosemite. Their car was found at the motel and they never showed up that started the investigation
The murder inside Yosemite was easily and quickly found to be a murder.
The Missing 411 cases are beyond bizarre or any rational explanation (that we know of yet) and leave absolutely no traces or clues. There were tyre tracks leaving the naturalist's cabin, a clearly defined trail of someone running into the woods, and a grisly murder scene. The 411s often are never found and cannot be located even by expert trackers, scent dogs, FLIR helicopter or even leave any indication they were even in the park
Or disappear then turn up in a place searched dozens of times previously.
I realise it may look like there could be a serial killer explanation to the M411 cases but once you look into it enough, considering that as a possible explanation, you realise it's just not possible. It's just not humanly possible to vanish someone like that and leave zero trace in the way those cases often transpire. If there were I think the police and FBI who often work those cases not to mention the many thousands of people acquainted with the subject would have been able to prove it by now after these many hundreds of years of eerily similar disappearances fitting that profile.
Possible human abduction is ruled out of a M411 case early on.
Omg, I’m so happy that I wasn’t the only one that thought the EXACT SAME THING!
I’m going to be thinking about Julie and what she went through for a long time after watching this. That poor girl. It keeps brining tears to my eyes. I hope her loved ones, and the loved ones of all the women targeted by this piece of garbage, find peace.
The fact that he's still alive for nearly 22 years after that gruesome event is unbelievable waste of "people's" money.
people like this make me wish for the days of public hangings back
California has the death penalty. But way to many sensitive people complain and don't approve/convict for the penalty
Death penalties take way too long in the USA to come to fruition. 🤔
@@bigdaddyroy5382 they'll approves it when this sh*t happened to someone who close to them.
@@jazz-axy9924 Damn!! 😅😅😅
Jeesus just knowing there are people like him roaming around is terrifying.
and the fact that he had those urges since he was 7? Man! That's a lot of suppression!
@@c.washington6693 yup! Even in a small town this stuff can happen. No where is immune from this kind of insanity!
I’ve heard estimates that there are 200-300 unidentified serial killers roaming free in the U.S. today. That could even be a conservative estimate!
Frightening how deranged and mean people can be.
There are people much, much worse than this, by far... This is sad and tragic, but still able to be told in story format. There are things happening almost everyday so unbelievably horrific, MrBallen wouldn't do a video about them nor would you want him to.
@@justachick3114 it's easier to be a regular murderer than a serial killer nowadays so I doubt this. SK's are usually compulsive in one way or another. Since data is openly shared between states, it's not possible to commit the same kind of crime in different states without it being picked up by algorithms. Once it is, the profilers start looking at the cases. They're eerily good.
One way a killer could escape this would be my varying the method of death. Now, that may seem simple but, that SERIOUSLY increases the chance something is botched on their end. It would be like performing a complex song in front of thousands of people but, you don't know the song until 5 minutes before the show. Sure, great performers can pull it off but can they do it perfectly every night? I don't think so
19 minutes in and I'm so furious at the way law enforcement handled "informing" Joey's mother.
i thought they always do that in person.. to be around the people they tell it to.. you never know how they will take it.. might get a hear attack or kill themselves.. it was very strange for me too
You are good. Get 2 big dogs. Pitbulls, Rottweilers, german shepherds, etc.
And have a gun on you at all times, learn to use it. Become physical strong through weight training.
And if you notice in a lot of these cases the victims end up victims because they make some questionable choices.. going on a strangers boat, opening the door for strange man, etc
@@urdadshusband781 Yes, blame the victim. Classy!
"Is her hair red???"
"Please hold on ma'am... John bring the head here real fast!"
@@jgraninger5748 that isn't victim blaming. Going out on a boat that is completely isolated with a dude you know nothing about and bringing you children is dumb. It isn't her fault, it is the killers, but that was a dumb decision .
I actually new Julie. We met the begining of the school year and was cheerleading together. We won second place for the
eureka loggers and all stars championship. Last I saw her we just performed our Christmas cheer at the bay shore mall. Then my father pulled me aside months later to tell me she was missing. I remember every time the news came on I would run to the TV hoping for an update. Sadly the update was something no one wanted. To this day, I am so sad to think that Julie and Sylvinia never got to grow up and become mothers, wives careers. Carol never got to meet her grandchildren. Jules Armstrong never got to live as well. To this day every December I still think of last time I saw her, our last cheer, her last smile. I'm hopeful that they are at peace and happy. Lots of love julie
This and other instances of killers being active for months or even years makes you wonder how many times have you seen someone out in public that quite possibly was a killer.
Im certain 2 times in my life. Ive run into 2 serial killers not just murderers. 1 on hywy looking for an address and one in another country it was the cab driver that dropped me off to th hotel
In 1980, it was estimated .01% of the population was sociopathic enough to be a serial killer. That's one & a half million people - the size of a small city.
I believe the estimate is, at any given time, there are 38 serial killers at large in the United States alone. That's NOT locked up or even recognized as serial murders. THAT'S AT LARGE.
Pleasant Dreams, Kiddies!
@@randomness8819 lies
Four years ago I asked my best friend if when she meets someone new regardless of how long the interaction is with that person or what the circumstances are how often does she think/wonder if she's just met the person who's going to murder her?
She was really shocked that not only had I asked her that question but also for the fact that its something I asked myself alot especially back then.
I thought about this before. So creepy.
Cary’s brother was labeled a hero for saving himself and a little boy. Interesting how one brother can be a hero, and the other bother a monster. Look up Steven Stayner if you’re curious about his brother’s story.
His brothers story is so tragic!
Just like the booth brothers, one saved a Lincoln, and the other killed one
My mom worked at a suit shop and she fit Steven for his wedding tux. Sadly, not long after he died in a motorcycle accident 😢 there’s a lifetime movie too called I think my name is Steven or my name it Steven
I'm just watching the story of Steven I had heard about it many years ago and saw the movie but didnt even connect them on watching this till I saw the documentary .... so crazy like you said one is a hero one is a monster
@@gwenscott4783 that’s so sad. His story is so tragic. When he married and had his baby, it was like he was getting that happy ending and life. Only for tragedy to strike so soon after. I feel for that family so much. They’ve been through hell.
Honestly, the moment someone goes to rob you and says "this is just a robbery" and tries to tie people up, is when you fight for your life. From watching another youtube channel I learned that most of the time, robbers just want a quick victim to steal from and get out asap. If something like this happens, there are way more bad intentions involved. My mom always told me, if someone tries to force me to go to another location or tie me up, fight for my life because thats all I got left, and nothing else waits for me, other than a bad ending.
How would you fight unarmed
@@YohananYGO They were in a motel room, which is a tight space. If all 3 of them had tried to counter attack they could have ripped the gun from him and turn the tables. That being said though, not everyone has the courage or empty handed skills to do such. But it still a very possible option rather than just being tied down waiting to die :\
You'd be surprised. Humans in general when presented with a choice between life and death, they'd choose life and grasp at it with the last of their strength. Only giving up when there is no out.
This is why psychopath goes out of their way to be friendly while tying people up to make them believe it is all just an inconvenience.
@@YohananYGO Run from a knife, always charge a gun. And if you have fists or anything around you that is dense then you can incapacitate and kill them. Even if the have a "better weapon". I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. You will always die if you don't fight, if you do then at least you have a chance of survival aside from miraculous rescue by law enforcement.
Good comments here. Also start throwing things and screaming; create chaos and confusion. Easier to say than to do, of course. Confirm this visit with the front desk. We can at least learn from this and lessen our chances.
I'm glad they had this really great trip and were just in a warm loving mood with each other. It's horrible that they were murdered the way they were but at least they had this really great time before the horrible things happened.
I can see that.
The way you tell stories gives me shivers down my spine and tears to my eyes for the victims in these cases . I just feel so bad for these poor women . But , how when I go away on vacation I will be more vigilant about the people around us . Thankyou
Seriously. I’m about to go on vacation with my child and now I’m like,… well, lets just stay home and play some board games, AND allow NO HANDYMAN inside. I’ll ask family for help around the house from now on, thank you! Lol
What a scary awful true story this one was! I did like the added sound effects like the walking, the doorbell, knocking, etc. though on a positive note!🥴
I just took 38 minutes off work. I told my customers they’ll have to wait, because a Navy seal was telling me a story. Works every time. 😎
Wow, as a kid i watched the mini series "I know my first name is Steven" about the abduction of this guys brother. I can't believe after all that happened with Steven his brother turned out to be a killer. Poor parents.
Yes. I remember the news about it.
And Steven ended up dying in a motorcycle accident. So sad.
Yup I remember watching the news report on Steven’s death too
And then after all that Steven died super young
I just watched the movie immediately after your comment (Thanks btw). Cary wasn't present on the day Steven was reunited with his family, so when Steven asked where he was, his Mother said he was away at camp in Yosemite. It both gave me chills and disgusted me knowing what he'd do in that same place in years to come.
I "discovered" MrBallen about a month ago, and this story compelled me to comment.
OMG, I just realized that Carey's brother Steven is Steven Stayner from that 80s TV movie, "I know my first name is Steven." There was an image of Merced in this story and that's what popped into my head.
Then, MrBallen mentioned a brother, Steven, who was abducted for 7 years (by Parnell), and THAT'S when it hit me. I NEVER forgot about that movie and to know this connection literally made my heart jump.
I can't believe it!!!
Anyone else remember that movie? I'm literally shaking and almost sick to my stomach.
MrBallen, you are quite the storyteller and now I do my best to watch my surroundings to ensure I don’t become one of your strange, dark and mysterious told in story format.😉
Yes, we watched that haunting TV series in my middle school home ec class. So disturbing.
The fact that this was his fantasy at age 7 shows some people are born psycho
Born evil more likely
he was traumtized because his elder brother was kidnapped
I don't think his brother being kidnapped would've put these urges in him. That's a weak excuse.
@@oystersoup3434 well maybe but that can cause people to have problems (specially kids)
Well, we do live in a fallen world...people are evil, immoral demonic ,satanic
Love the content brotha! Literally listen to yours stories daily!
Hi wonderboy
WONDER BOY!!! What is the secret of your power???? Stay hard brother!!
Of course Wonderboy has the same taste in the strange, dark, and mysterious….delivered in story format.
Hell yeah Wonderboy! Great to see two people I admire interacting.
Omg I can’t believe you watch this channel Stephen! You will be back that burns fight was very very close
Many of us that were living in the SF Bay Area at the time vividly remember the details of this time and story. I always felt that Joie was the hero. Her battle was not in vain. It rattled him enough to leave a crime scene. It also opened the eyes of many about how badly investigations could be handled.
I also thought this!! What a incredible woman she was but unfortunately... :(
She fought til the very end. Bless her heart, and the other girls who were ruthlessly killed.
The way she was killed is so heartbreaking. Decapitating someone with a hunting knife is a slow process.
Right. The way Joie fought back messed up the killer's crazy plan, helping him finally get caught by the police. By doing that her death stopped him for good and stopped the murders of his girlfriend and her daughters, again. It's just really sad for Joie's family. They must be so angry with police for initially arresting the wrong people in the murders of the 3 ladies, leaving the real killer on the loose. Hopefully the sicko will be fully punished soon.
@Paul Feig is Funnier Than Any TH-camr Worked at both places? What both places? He worked at the motel.