I've been running the SH4 Gen2 for about 2 years now on my 6.5 Creedmor and have shot it out to 1600 yards. I have been very pleased with that scope. I didnt have a lot of money to start long range shooting with and this fit the bill perfectly. Very satisfied with that scope.
Has the eye box caused you any issues? I just picked one up and if I’m not perfectly behind the rifle on high magnification it’s a pain to see clearly.
I bought the EP5 after watching Paramount Tactical’s review. It works great for what it is. I just spent a weekend on a Nightforce ATacr. There is an obvious difference in clarity but for 3000.00 less I can’t complain about the performance of the EP5. Best value I’ve com across
I've got 3 Arken lenses, the cheaper ones I think. They're better than I am, and a fantastic value point. It's good to see that even a very proficient shooter like yourself agrees. Thank you for the awesome videos!
Thanks for a good review of these good bang for the buck scopes. I have friends who are hard to convince to spend even this level of money. Your information confirms what other trusted sources have said. But, with your experience, Ray. I will use it as a solid review from someone the competitive shooting community respects.
Fantastic review! You have a top-tier radio/commentator voice! Also, your very calm and friendly demeanor makes me trust what you are saying. Additionally, I really appreciate you being mindful of people's time and not dragging this out. Keep up the great work!
Just bought an EP5. Yes, it’s One Heavy Optic! But, For the difference in Price, I’m more than Happy with it! I couldn’t Believe you could get an Optic for this amount of money, with Everything it will Do! Thanks! Great Video
Thanks for your detailed info-clip and yes, I have the SH-J4 and no, have not used it to get an idea how to work with it or how to use all the options it offers. Take care and try to stay out of trouble!
I’ve been running an EP5 on my Cz457 for NRL22 and it’s been a great fit. I have a few Vortex razors on my comp rifles but didn’t want to go that route for 22LR. The EP5 is impressive for the price point.
I have both scopes, and all I could say about your conclusions is “ditto”. Great scopes for the price and fills a great niche for people wanting to shoot and are on tighter budgets. I really like your video format, giving honest real world experiences without all the BS and trying to be cute. Keep up the good work.
I started with three of their optics, the two you have here and then I also ordered their 1-8. Then a couple of weeks ago I ordered another 1-8 plus their new thermal/IR as well to take advantage of their huge sale and before their price hike, I also ordered my mounts and rings as well as flip-up covers from them just b/c the price was right. I also have optics from S&B, VX, LEUPOLD, NF, STEINER, PA, BUSHNELL, TJ, ATN and SS. I think I got them all, didn't leave anybody out. I am glad I found your review on Arken.
First time watcher, now subscribed. Good info, I had been looking into the arken ep5. The info you provided is the game changer to get one. Was skeptical about the price vs quality. I have a 6.5grendel ar platform so 800y will probably be my max.
I own several and they're great. Thanks for the optimistic perspective and just good straight fwd non biast content. Appreciate you're opinion and will definitely continue to watch your channel. Best wishes from West TN
I put the ep5 on my 338 lapua, and love it. Getting the sh4 soon for my 22lr. and another ep5 for my 223. I have a razor HD 5-20 on my 284 and i love it, but after getting behind the arken at 500 bucks, i find it REALLY hard to spend the extra money on more expensive scopes these days.
I chose the EP 5 for my NRL rifle. The FOV is really better than most scopes out there. It's noticeably better than my Steiner T6Xi and my Burris XTR iii. The large fov really helps me find my next target a lot quicker, so I'll gladly sacrifice a little clarity for time saved.
Got a SH4 last year with the combo pack. Very satisfied as it performs better than my experience since I just started shooting at longer ranges. Does great out to 800 yards on my Savage 110.
Ray - good topic for a review. I think shooters always want to be inclusive, bringing people to guns in general, and long range shooting in particular. It can be intimidating watching you shoot because for the most part you use top-shelf equipment as well as being a gifted shooter. But a lot of your viewers likely don't fall into either category. They may be average shooters with smaller incomes. So it is always a good idea to show people there is equipment available that will allow them to enjoy, possibly compete, but still stay on a budge so as not to incur the wrath of an irate spouse. I've had the opportunity to shoot friend's rifles topped with Arkens. Each time I thought they were more than adequate. I had no complaints with the scopes themselves, and considering the price point was very pleased. Thanks for calling out the nitpickers who rag on lower price optics for not being as good as the best glass available. You made the right point. You want the best - then buy the best.
Thank you Ray for this review. I have been riding the fence with these for a while now. I’ve got some good optics, but only a couple. I have a real need to upgrade several of my older ones and really don’t want to spend several thousand dollars in the process.
Look at the Burris Signature line. They have the E3 hunting reticles which I much prefer over busy target reticles. I have the 3-15 and the 5-25 and really like both.
I recently bought 2 of the EPL4s 6x24x50. I like them. Use them on 17 hm2 Rimfires. You review of Arken scopes very logical. Can’t say that about all the rest. Thanks for sharing.
I'm impressed with arken all around, awesome optics for the cost and they outperform a lot of optics that cost $800+. It's been scientifically proven that the sh4/sh4j were far more accurate in terms of reticle tracking than big name brands that were $500, $900, $1500 and $2500 optics. Very impressive
I enjoy your content and appreciate your honesty in this video. However, after owning 2 Arkens, I wasn't as impressed as I'd hoped I would be. The EP5 was better than the SH4, but neither performed as well for me as the Bushnell Match Pro ED or Vortex Strike Eagle, which are similarly priced. The biggest issue I had with the Arkens was that the parallax function didn't work properly. Another issue I only had with the Arken was after dialing 20 Mil, the image clarity was almost nonexistent at magnifications over 16X. This is just one man's experience. Take care, and thanks for the video.
Have two sh4 and one ep5 Also some others on the $800 to $1000 range scopes one is Cabela's The ep 5 is the one I prefer This gentleman is right I have no complaints for the price and he's ponts of view are accurate with my experience with arken Thank you for the review
Upon your recommendation, I've just ordered this optic. I found your review to be extremely helpful in this matter. I have always valued your opinion on all of your optics reviews. I personally have been a primary arms fan for quite some time, but I need to step out of that comfort zone and try something new. This looks like a great choice for my 6 mm arc, AR15. Thanks again, Ray. I truly appreciate all you do for the 2A community😉👊🇺🇸
Thanks JerrBear! I think you will be happy with it for sure. For the money they seem to be the best thing going. I hope you have been well and thanks again for watching. 👍🏼
Just found this channel i respect your reviews and also find them very easy to watch as i view 100 of gun vids and reviews and you have a very good camera presence plus a welcoming voice and trust me that matters bc i have to skip alotta vids like this
Just found your channel. I really enjoyed the way you presented this video. Thorough, informative, and extremely well done! I'm 69. I've shot long range with my Savage Model 12 LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor, with a Vortex Razor HD 5-20X50 with the EBR-2B MOA Reticle. It's first gen, but I've been to a thousand with it, without issue. I'v been happy with that set up for the price invested. It works for me. I also shoot a Springfield Armory M1A National match that I added an Archangel stock to. The M1A has a much, much less expensive Sightmark Citadel 3-18x50 scope with an Mrad reticle mounted on it. It works fine out to 500 yards, then the image gets quite hazy. I'm about to retire and I'm budget conscious. I've been looking at the Arken Optics EP-5 to replace the Sightmark. The closest long range I go to maxes out at 800 yards, which is fine for my old eyes. I may give the EP-5 a try. After watching many videos on this subject, I enjoyed you and Texas Plinking the most. Thank you so much for your time and effort in making such a fine video. It made me hit the subscribe button.
Thanks for all your great videos over the years Ray,i have notebooks full of various precision shooting info that you covered,I would write down your procedures so i could refer back to them in the future if necessary,i.e.,speed drop. Thank you for your review on the 2 Arken scopes,i have both,but am extremely fond of the EP5/5-25 & is a great scope for its price point...yes,above 20/22× there is some aberration but its still usable(although i rarely go above 18/20×)
The only problem I have had with Arken, and I am not the only one, is the turrets get loose because the set screws back out from vibration. So, Arken tech support suggested Vibra Tite VC3, which does seem to work.
Ive had the ep5 since it came out. Its been an absolute tank of an optic. Ive ran it on a dedicated 22lr upper and now i have it on a 6mm arc. Used it yesterday to spot for a guy that was zeroing an lpvo.
Great Video Ray, Arken is truly changing the name of the game. was wondering what your thoughts on the Vortex Venom are? I know not the smart buy with the Arken EP 5 out there, but for those of us who already own a Venom, Is it useful to practice with for that big day beginners can step into an actual competition, or even use in a actual competition, or should it only be used as a recreational tool as Vortex has advertised it as such, or is it one of Vortex's great blemishes, on their record of producing productive dependable optics while its competitors were being innovative yet keeping their optics feasible, like the Arken EP 5 and Vortex was simply cutting costs by cutting features.
Got the EP-5 on top of my NRL CZ455. The 56 mm lens helps the old eyes with target locating. I shoot for fun and the scopes affordability makes it possible.
Awesome review Ray! I have the SH4 mounted on a .223 cal Savage and I do like it a lot. I'm limited to 500 meters shooting and I have zero complaints on the scope at least out to 500m. When I ordered the Arken, they were giving away the combo pack so it was very affordable. In fact I had my brother buy the same setup and he likes it a lot too.
Thanks SJohnson and thanks for watching the video. I think that is an excellent choice for a .223. Their combo packs do make them rather appealing as well.
I’ve had an EP5 for a little less than a year. It ended up being one of my favorite scopes and the glass looks better than a couple other brands I have that are 2-2.5x the cost. I would say with the features and clarity of the glass even at higher magnifications this is the best scope for the price point I know of. Kudos to you for reviewing these since I know you usually stick to the high end stuff.
Dang it Ray! Don't let everyone know how good they are so they raise their prices on us! Great review man, I've got 2 of them and they punch way higher than their price point. I wish the new lpvo had a better reticle option though.
Thank you, my long range shooting is with airguns, 125 yards or so, and we measure in one minute of Squirrel, well, I'm down to one minute of cork with my little .22 FX Maverick at 100 yards and with my .25 Maverick VP. As an older guy, the optics are pretty decent, I LOVE the turrets, much easier to move and to feel. I agree, the glass on the EP5 is better and it shows up when the sun is setting.. But the SH-4 isn't too bad either and you can't go wrong. When you contribute to the Navy Seal Fund you get a super good deal or at least when I bought mine they were a steal.
Excellent video. Ive watched alot on these was getting an sh4 just for weekend shooter rifle. They came out with the sh4j model and for my use think its time to pull the trigger. If was a precision rifle id moge up but the cost on these scopes right now on sale is very hard to beat
Arken is some good glass. My only issue with them is they are so Heavy!! Be sure and check out the weight and dimension specs before making your decision to purchase. Thanks for a great video!
Always good information from your videos. Any thoughts on match pro vs arken ep5 for prs .22 matches? My only hang up with ep5 is parallax is 25 vs 10 on bushnell I think. I would enjoy hearing your thoughts.
Thank you for your intel, sir. I already have an SH-4j which I have yet to test out (impulse buy), but am torn between the EP5 and the infamous Vortex line of scopes around the same power/price point. Being ex-Military, I support the Arken brand and what they stand for, but I cannot really stay away from the EP-5 and the "Combo Pack" that Arken is offering... for a little under $700 all in. This is a SWEET deal, sure, but all I have to go on right now is other people's views on the product. Sure, I have an Arken scope, but comparing the SH-4 to the EP-5 isn't quite the same. I will test my SH-4, but the EP-5 is somewhat in a higher bracket, so thanks again for yout take on this matter!
Ray, the EP8 is coming out the 2nd week of Sept. It's a 1-8 LPVO w/Japanese glass. Can you see if Arken would send you one when they're released? I plan to use mine for pig hunting.
Just took my EP5 out on my DD Delta 5 pro both for the first time today. I loved both. I hit every target after getting it dialed from 100 to 700 yards without any effort.
That's awesome dfarrell. Sounds like the same setup I had on the channel. The DD is a workhorse for sure. I just need to buy a folder hinge for mine when they become available again.
The arken's work, I think I like them better than my strike eagle. My experience using their customer service was pretty decent. They sent me a 34 mm mount that did not fit their 34 mm scope. It wasn't machined properly, the scope tube would not fit in the base. I sent them pictures, they sent me an RMA, and then a new mount. I might try an ep5 before I graduate from their price range, not sure if I will do that or do the Bushnell mped.
A very concise review of the Arken line of scopes. I was looking for a scope that would suffice for shooting long distance .22LR, but I don't want to mortgage my property. Your information gave me the information necessary to make the choice. I do have a question that is off topic. Since Silas Branch Range has closed, where do you go to hone your skill sets for long distance?
Hi Ray, if you can get your hands on one, please review the element titan 5-25x56 I have one of those and I personally think they're a step above the Arken but still remain under $1k.
They’re heavy but also built like a tank. Have dropped mine on rocks a couple of times and It still held zero. Not sure I’d take mine on long hikes again but it’s a great range scope .
I really like Arken scopes. I have sh-4 4-16x50 and it’s great for my .308. I will take your advice and get the EP5 for my Bergara HMR 6.5. I have an Arken EP8 coming for my Windham src .308. Sir this by far has got to be the best review I’ve seen on Arken scopes ! Thank you and I’ll keep watching your channel. Where are your training classes?
Picked up an EP5 last year for my "budget" PRS build in 308 win. 2 seasons down and a couple hunting trips, it's held up fantastic. I really like how positive and tactile the turrets are, the glass is pretty good, especially for its price point. I think it's a great option for someone looking to get into PRS or NRL but can't afford/ justify 2500+ on a Razor or NF.
Hey guys I Ben installing Arken scope for the last 4 years install in hunting rifle and NRL 22 Rifle and PRS center fire my customers love theme and are all of theme I have a problem with one and the customer service took care of the problem by send me a new scope I’m a gunsmith in Florida with a small shop if your are in a budget the Arken can’t be bit I own a razor gen2 and a couple of Knithforce and one USA optics in lower light the higher cost have batter glass and I can see better and pass 1000 is not problem to see my impact with the higher price but I love Arken
Great intel here. What I’d like to see someone do is a series on entry level components that punch above their weight class as the Arkens do. Suggestions would be KRG Bravo, MDT Oryx and XRS, the Boyd’s laminated stocks, Origin actions with the interchangeable bolt heads, Howa 1500 rifles in general and prefit barrels. I started building my own guns a few years ago and have discovered that less money USUALLY means less performance but not always.
But it before the 25% off discount ends. It's currently $397 with Arken's current discount code. A seller on Amazon also selling the EP5 for $397. My guess it's sale price is going to end before September 1 then you have to pay $125 more for them.
I have both the Sh-4 (no-j) and the ep-5. They’ve been great out to 1000 yds in PRS club matches. Hope your heart is ticking along, I go in for my ecg and bubble test on Monday. 🤞
Good video. Do you recall how much elevation adjustment was left on the scope after you zeroed? Their spec sheet says 32 mrad total (16 up and down). I have a Vortex PSTII and it has a horribly small 20mrad total leaving about 10 MRAD of Elevation adjustment so I run out of scope at about 800 yards. And I am not super impressed with the clarity of my $1000 PSTII. Actually considering buying the EP-5 with their 20 MOA cantilever mount for my Tikka 6.5 CM. Any thoughts?
Here is my take after owning 2 of them. All thing being equal price point they fit a budget friendly option for long range shooting. The adjustment in the turret is the best thing going for this scope. It tracks completely. It holds true so far. I have one for over a year now and run the turret a lot. I'm a hunter that loves to shoot long range. My wife tells me I'm more of a shooter that likes to go hunting and reloading and tinkering with loads is my thing trying to get them to shoot well out to 1000 yards. So the scope tracks and hold true both of them. Haven't had an issue. With that said the glass is the big issue. I've seen clearer Tesco scopes. You have to consistently adjust the eyepiece focus at ranges along with the parallax. Actually the 4x16x50 30mm tube anything over 200 yards just set the parallax to infinity. Its almost the same on the SH4. The optic quality is not at all what I expected. I had a lower end 4x18 Redfield and its much clearer than both of these. I just don't trust the turret adjustments on it anymore. I have 2 vortex HSLR and they are hands down way better optics that have flawlessly tracking turrets. I have 2 Zeiss conquest that have the best optics out of everything I own and the turrets on them track flawlessly. I was hoping for more when I bought the second one due to reviews and all the hype that I bought into. No you don't need to spend just as much on your scope as you did on your rifle but you do need descent optics. I wont buy another. I will buy Vortex, Zeiss, a much higher end Bushnell something that can track, and has respectable optic quality . For me when looking at what most consider budget scopes that track well I would not go any thing less than my HSLR's anymore since I've been bitten twice now. I need to be able to see the targets and not have to move every knob on the scope to do it. When seconds count when taking long range shots I need my scope to be able to focus and focus by only adjusting the parallax knob not the eyepiece and back and forth. This is just my experience with them and once I save up some more money again I will get what I need and sale the others or just keep them on my plinkers. They would be good for my 22 long rifle or a short range gun. Just my take. That my rant on the optics. Now are they durable scopes very much. I weigh 290 and took a hard spill with my sh4 last year on the side of of a slop. I use a backpack that holds my rifle but not exposed. Its an EBERLESTOCK backpack one of there large packs. I did not hit directly on the scope but I did roll over it. I checked zero and it was still on and took another shot at a rock at 500 and still holding true. My son nocked it over in my reloading room this year when we were cleaning and the next outing no issue. So that aspect hold up good. They are tough and track, just not optically clear. For me I need also an optically clearer scope. That my biggest issue and anything past 700 starts to look gritty where my vortex and Zeiss does not. Took it out today and was shooting. Tracking is still great but side by side comparison with the vortex and it much clearer at long distance looking through the vortex. Also I never touched my eye piece focus on my vortex. I had to adjust the eye piece on the arken and the paralex was set to infinity to get somewhat of a clear picture.
Thanks for the reply and sharing your experience on them. I agree with you completely about the clarity however, I wasn’t expecting incredible glass for less than $500. I don’t find myself having to adjust the ocular as you described. While they are not perfect, they do fit a price point for a lot of people. You know that I do shoot more higher and optics and there is no comparison to those.
Nice reiew. I have two SH-4s and like them. Yes, they aren't perfect, but for the price, a lot better than some of the big name scopes that I've owned. Most of all, I like the brilliance of the view for my old eyes.
Great video as always. Hard to beat for this money. Outperform way more expensive scopes. Btw another thing which I didn't hear (6 AM in a morning here 😴) is customer service/warranty. Usually this is big decision maker by buying optics. Personally my choice is Atlas Midas Tac . Stay safe brother
*i have both, EP & SH. both work great for my application. I also have a night force and S&B. But those are on different rifles. IMO, cant beat the price point vs features*
I’ve had an EP5 new in the box for a while and with my last rifle purchased being a Savage Ultralite in 6.5PRC I’m going to use it finally. I’m sure I won’t be let down as I’ve never been let down by my NFS that I use and I’m not really expecting that type of performance from a scope that is about $2,000 less.
For the price they're great. My biggest complaint is the eye box is tight and the reticle on the 4-18 is a little to fine for my old eyes, but it works.
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I've been running the SH4 Gen2 for about 2 years now on my 6.5 Creedmor and have shot it out to 1600 yards. I have been very pleased with that scope. I didnt have a lot of money to start long range shooting with and this fit the bill perfectly. Very satisfied with that scope.
Has the eye box caused you any issues? I just picked one up and if I’m not perfectly behind the rifle on high magnification it’s a pain to see clearly.
I bought the EP5 after watching Paramount Tactical’s review. It works great for what it is. I just spent a weekend on a Nightforce ATacr. There is an obvious difference in clarity but for 3000.00 less I can’t complain about the performance of the EP5. Best value I’ve com across
Great info, because I picked up the sh4 gen2 last week, for a buckthirty. Thanks for taking the time to present this info to us.
I appreciate your honesty. I been following you for about a year and have learned a lot. Keep doing what you're doing.
I really like this guy videos content and presentation. Clean and right on spot! Great job!
I've got 3 Arken lenses, the cheaper ones I think. They're better than I am, and a fantastic value point. It's good to see that even a very proficient shooter like yourself agrees. Thank you for the awesome videos!
I also have 3 and can relate
Thanks for a good review of these good bang for the buck scopes. I have friends who are hard to convince to spend even this level of money. Your information confirms what other trusted sources have said. But, with your experience, Ray. I will use it as a solid review from someone the competitive shooting community respects.
Fantastic review! You have a top-tier radio/commentator voice! Also, your very calm and friendly demeanor makes me trust what you are saying. Additionally, I really appreciate you being mindful of people's time and not dragging this out. Keep up the great work!
Best review yet. I have 7 of them. Their customer service is top shelf..thank you
Just bought an EP5.
Yes, it’s One Heavy Optic!
But,
For the difference in Price, I’m more than Happy with it!
I couldn’t Believe you could get an Optic for this amount of money, with Everything it will Do!
Thanks!
Great Video
Thanks for your detailed info-clip and yes, I have the SH-J4 and no, have not used it to get an idea
how to work with it or how to use all the options it offers. Take care and try to stay out of trouble!
I've been watching your channel for a while and just subscribed because I appreciate honesty thanks for the videos.
Thank you Thomas and thank you for subscribing to the channel!
I’ve been running an EP5 on my Cz457 for NRL22 and it’s been a great fit. I have a few Vortex razors on my comp rifles but didn’t want to go that route for 22LR. The EP5 is impressive for the price point.
Great review, I appreciate your honesty and candor. I love these scopes for the price, unbeatable
Thanks FBWGUY and thanks for watching the channel.
Good honest review with clear objective understanding.
Thank you.
A great cut and dry thorough review! Thank you!
Thank you very much for a real world review on the optics. This video helped me make my decision on what optic to go with.
I have both scopes, and all I could say about your conclusions is “ditto”. Great scopes for the price and fills a great niche for people wanting to shoot and are on tighter budgets. I really like your video format, giving honest real world experiences without all the BS and trying to be cute. Keep up the good work.
Very Respectful video and input Sir. I appreciate the time you put into the research.
I started with three of their optics, the two you have here and then I also ordered their 1-8.
Then a couple of weeks ago I ordered another 1-8 plus their new thermal/IR as well to take advantage of their huge sale and before their price hike, I also ordered my mounts and rings as well as flip-up covers from them just b/c the price was right. I also have optics from S&B, VX, LEUPOLD, NF, STEINER, PA, BUSHNELL, TJ, ATN and SS. I think I got them all, didn't leave anybody out. I am glad I found your review on Arken.
First time watcher, now subscribed. Good info, I had been looking into the arken ep5. The info you provided is the game changer to get one. Was skeptical about the price vs quality. I have a 6.5grendel ar platform so 800y will probably be my max.
Thanks for the review. Finally a budget friendly scope that won’t break the bank. Have a good weekend Ray.
I own several and they're great. Thanks for the optimistic perspective and just good straight fwd non biast content. Appreciate you're opinion and will definitely continue to watch your channel. Best wishes from West TN
I put the ep5 on my 338 lapua, and love it. Getting the sh4 soon for my 22lr. and another ep5 for my 223. I have a razor HD 5-20 on my 284 and i love it, but after getting behind the arken at 500 bucks, i find it REALLY hard to spend the extra money on more expensive scopes these days.
I chose the EP 5 for my NRL rifle. The FOV is really better than most scopes out there. It's noticeably better than my Steiner T6Xi and my Burris XTR iii. The large fov really helps me find my next target a lot quicker, so I'll gladly sacrifice a little clarity for time saved.
Got a SH4 last year with the combo pack. Very satisfied as it performs better than my experience since I just started shooting at longer ranges. Does great out to 800 yards on my Savage 110.
i agree.
Well done. Thank you for quality content and production. 👌
Ray - good topic for a review. I think shooters always want to be inclusive, bringing people to guns in general, and long range shooting in particular. It can be intimidating watching you shoot because for the most part you use top-shelf equipment as well as being a gifted shooter. But a lot of your viewers likely don't fall into either category. They may be average shooters with smaller incomes. So it is always a good idea to show people there is equipment available that will allow them to enjoy, possibly compete, but still stay on a budge so as not to incur the wrath of an irate spouse. I've had the opportunity to shoot friend's rifles topped with Arkens. Each time I thought they were more than adequate. I had no complaints with the scopes themselves, and considering the price point was very pleased. Thanks for calling out the nitpickers who rag on lower price optics for not being as good as the best glass available. You made the right point. You want the best - then buy the best.
Did not initially notice the "J" as a new SH4 until i visited the website 10 days after originally viewing your review.
Thank you Ray for this review. I have been riding the fence with these for a while now. I’ve got some good optics, but only a couple. I have a real need to upgrade several of my older ones and really don’t want to spend several thousand dollars in the process.
Look at the Burris Signature line. They have the E3 hunting reticles which I much prefer over busy target reticles. I have the 3-15 and the 5-25 and really like both.
I recently bought 2 of the EPL4s 6x24x50.
I like them.
Use them on 17 hm2 Rimfires.
You review of Arken scopes very logical.
Can’t say that about all the rest.
Thanks for sharing.
Another great video. I enjoyed meeting you Friday at Big Ivy 1000 yd range.
Hello Flydoc! It was really a pleasure meeting up with you as well. Shoot me an email next time you are in town and maybe we can meet up to shoot. 👍🏼
Great video, thanks brother! Hope all is well with you and your family🍻
Thanks R. I hope you have been well!
I'm impressed with arken all around, awesome optics for the cost and they outperform a lot of optics that cost $800+. It's been scientifically proven that the sh4/sh4j were far more accurate in terms of reticle tracking than big name brands that were $500, $900, $1500 and $2500 optics. Very impressive
I enjoy your content and appreciate your honesty in this video. However, after owning 2 Arkens, I wasn't as impressed as I'd hoped I would be.
The EP5 was better than the SH4, but neither performed as well for me as the Bushnell Match Pro ED or Vortex Strike Eagle, which are similarly priced. The biggest issue I had with the Arkens was that the parallax function didn't work properly. Another issue I only had with the Arken was after dialing 20 Mil, the image clarity was almost nonexistent at magnifications over 16X.
This is just one man's experience. Take care, and thanks for the video.
Have two sh4 and one ep5
Also some others on the $800 to $1000 range scopes one is Cabela's
The ep 5 is the one I prefer
This gentleman is right I have no complaints for the price and he's ponts of view are accurate with my experience with arken
Thank you for the review
Upon your recommendation, I've just ordered this optic. I found your review to be extremely helpful in this matter. I have always valued your opinion on all of your optics reviews. I personally have been a primary arms fan for quite some time, but I need to step out of that comfort zone and try something new. This looks like a great choice for my 6 mm arc, AR15. Thanks again, Ray. I truly appreciate all you do for the 2A community😉👊🇺🇸
Thanks JerrBear! I think you will be happy with it for sure. For the money they seem to be the best thing going.
I hope you have been well and thanks again for watching. 👍🏼
can you fit a x56OD on an AR?
@@Big6DukeDepends on the mount. You can always get an adapter though.
@@Big6DukeI have the ep5 on an ar10 build and the 'rigid precision' mount that arken sells fits. Idk about the rings.
Did u get the 20MOA or 0@@smasher.338
Just found this channel. Good job and appreciate your input
Just found this channel i respect your reviews and also find them very easy to watch as i view 100 of gun vids and reviews and you have a very good camera presence plus a welcoming voice and trust me that matters bc i have to skip alotta vids like this
I appreciate it and thank you for watching the channel.
Just found your channel. I really enjoyed the way you presented this video. Thorough, informative, and extremely well done! I'm 69. I've shot long range with my Savage Model 12 LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor, with a Vortex Razor HD 5-20X50 with the EBR-2B MOA Reticle. It's first gen, but I've been to a thousand with it, without issue. I'v been happy with that set up for the price invested. It works for me. I also shoot a Springfield Armory M1A National match that I added an Archangel stock to. The M1A has a much, much less expensive Sightmark Citadel 3-18x50 scope with an Mrad reticle mounted on it. It works fine out to 500 yards, then the image gets quite hazy. I'm about to retire and I'm budget conscious. I've been looking at the Arken Optics EP-5 to replace the Sightmark. The closest long range I go to maxes out at 800 yards, which is fine for my old eyes. I may give the EP-5 a try. After watching many videos on this subject, I enjoyed you and Texas Plinking the most. Thank you so much for your time and effort in making such a fine video. It made me hit the subscribe button.
I agree with you. My arthritis kicks up in the cold. These turrets are fantastic!
Thanks for all your great videos over the years Ray,i have notebooks full of various precision shooting info that you covered,I would write down your procedures so i could refer back to them in the future if necessary,i.e.,speed drop. Thank you for your review on the 2 Arken scopes,i have both,but am extremely fond of the EP5/5-25 & is a great scope for its price point...yes,above 20/22× there is some aberration but its still usable(although i rarely go above 18/20×)
Great show and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍👍
The only problem I have had with Arken, and I am not the only one, is the turrets get loose because the set screws back out from vibration. So, Arken tech support suggested Vibra Tite VC3, which does seem to work.
Spot on review, and agree 100% with the illumination, but damn for the price you cannot go wrong and really loving my EPL-4!
Ive had the ep5 since it came out. Its been an absolute tank of an optic. Ive ran it on a dedicated 22lr upper and now i have it on a 6mm arc. Used it yesterday to spot for a guy that was zeroing an lpvo.
Yes I have a few of them on 308, 6.5, and 7mm and am extremely happy with them!!!!!
That Range is Awesome! Shooting across the valley 850-1000. What a great spot.
Great Video Ray, Arken is truly changing the name of the game. was wondering what your thoughts on the Vortex Venom are? I know not the smart buy with the Arken EP 5 out there, but for those of us who already own a Venom, Is it useful to practice with for that big day beginners can step into an actual competition, or even use in a actual competition, or should it only be used as a recreational tool as Vortex has advertised it as such, or is it one of Vortex's great blemishes, on their record of producing productive dependable optics while its competitors were being innovative yet keeping their optics feasible, like the Arken EP 5 and Vortex was simply cutting costs by cutting features.
Got the EP-5 on top of my NRL CZ455. The 56 mm lens helps the old eyes with target locating. I shoot for fun and the scopes affordability makes it possible.
Awesome review Ray! I have the SH4 mounted on a .223 cal Savage and I do like it a lot. I'm limited to 500 meters shooting and I have zero complaints on the scope at least out to 500m. When I ordered the Arken, they were giving away the combo pack so it was very affordable. In fact I had my brother buy the same setup and he likes it a lot too.
Thanks SJohnson and thanks for watching the video. I think that is an excellent choice for a .223. Their combo packs do make them rather appealing as well.
I’ve had an EP5 for a little less than a year. It ended up being one of my favorite scopes and the glass looks better than a couple other brands I have that are 2-2.5x the cost. I would say with the features and clarity of the glass even at higher magnifications this is the best scope for the price point I know of. Kudos to you for reviewing these since I know you usually stick to the high end stuff.
Thank willo! I will agree with you with what all they are bringing to the table. No frills just a solid optic for the money.
Dang it Ray! Don't let everyone know how good they are so they raise their prices on us! Great review man, I've got 2 of them and they punch way higher than their price point. I wish the new lpvo had a better reticle option though.
Awesome video! That ATX is my dream rifle.
Thank you, my long range shooting is with airguns, 125 yards or so, and we measure in one minute of Squirrel, well, I'm down to one minute of cork with my little .22 FX Maverick at 100 yards and with my .25 Maverick VP. As an older guy, the optics are pretty decent, I LOVE the turrets, much easier to move and to feel. I agree, the glass on the EP5 is better and it shows up when the sun is setting.. But the SH-4 isn't too bad either and you can't go wrong. When you contribute to the Navy Seal Fund you get a super good deal or at least when I bought mine they were a steal.
Excellent video. Ive watched alot on these was getting an sh4 just for weekend shooter rifle. They came out with the sh4j model and for my use think its time to pull the trigger. If was a precision rifle id moge up but the cost on these scopes right now on sale is very hard to beat
Thanks for doing this review on Arken.
I appreciate your ( plain vanilla) explanation & your upfront disclosures. In my opion you are 👍👍👍. Thank you.
Also arken is veteran owned
Arken is some good glass. My only issue with them is they are so Heavy!! Be sure and check out the weight and dimension specs before making your decision to purchase. Thanks for a great video!
Always good information from your videos. Any thoughts on match pro vs arken ep5 for prs .22 matches? My only hang up with ep5 is parallax is 25 vs 10 on bushnell I think. I would enjoy hearing your thoughts.
Thank you for your intel, sir. I already have an SH-4j which I have yet to test out (impulse buy), but am torn between the EP5 and the infamous Vortex line of scopes around the same power/price point. Being ex-Military, I support the Arken brand and what they stand for, but I cannot really stay away from the EP-5 and the "Combo Pack" that Arken is offering... for a little under $700 all in. This is a SWEET deal, sure, but all I have to go on right now is other people's views on the product. Sure, I have an Arken scope, but comparing the SH-4 to the EP-5 isn't quite the same. I will test my SH-4, but the EP-5 is somewhat in a higher bracket, so thanks again for yout take on this matter!
Thank You Sir! I like the zero stop feature. 👍🇺🇲
I've been very happy with both of mine. I have the 5-25x56 EP5 and a 4-16x50 SH4 gen 2.
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Thanks for commenting ES4 and thanks for watching the channel.
@@XRINGwhy did you say the 6x24 has more magnification than the 5x25? Did you mispeak?
Ordered the new 1-8 and I hope it’s good!
Ray, the EP8 is coming out the 2nd week of Sept. It's a 1-8 LPVO w/Japanese glass. Can you see if Arken would send you one when they're released? I plan to use mine for pig hunting.
Been running Arken since the original Ep4 came out. I need to get my hands on an Ep5 👍🏻👊😎🇺🇲
Just took my EP5 out on my DD Delta 5 pro both for the first time today. I loved both. I hit every target after getting it dialed from 100 to 700 yards without any effort.
That's awesome dfarrell. Sounds like the same setup I had on the channel. The DD is a workhorse for sure. I just need to buy a folder hinge for mine when they become available again.
Glad to see someone else is rocking that setup! I felt kind of foolish using a $500 scope on my $2500 D5P. Works well for now though
I've got a SH4 G2 on my .308. the farthest I've taken it is 600. Thanks for confirming that I'm the problem 😉👍
I’ve had the EP5 for a few months and have been favorably impressed by it.
I always like your videos!!! I’m in Charlotte NC
Thanks Duncan! That my hometown.
Excellent video!!! Thank you for putting those optics through the grind before giving your professional opinion
The arken's work, I think I like them better than my strike eagle. My experience using their customer service was pretty decent. They sent me a 34 mm mount that did not fit their 34 mm scope. It wasn't machined properly, the scope tube would not fit in the base. I sent them pictures, they sent me an RMA, and then a new mount.
I might try an ep5 before I graduate from their price range, not sure if I will do that or do the Bushnell mped.
A very concise review of the Arken line of scopes. I was looking for a scope that would suffice for shooting long distance .22LR, but I don't want to mortgage my property. Your information gave me the information necessary to make the choice. I do have a question that is off topic. Since Silas Branch Range has closed, where do you go to hone your skill sets for long distance?
Hi Ray, if you can get your hands on one, please review the element titan 5-25x56
I have one of those and I personally think they're a step above the Arken but still remain under $1k.
They’re heavy but also built like a tank. Have dropped mine on rocks a couple of times and It still held zero. Not sure I’d take mine on long hikes again but it’s a great range scope .
Love my EP4, just bought an EP8.
I really like Arken scopes. I have sh-4 4-16x50 and it’s great for my .308. I will take your advice and get the EP5 for my Bergara HMR 6.5. I have an Arken EP8 coming for my Windham src .308. Sir this by far has got to be the best review I’ve seen on Arken scopes ! Thank you and I’ll keep watching your channel. Where are your training classes?
Picked up an EP5 last year for my "budget" PRS build in 308 win. 2 seasons down and a couple hunting trips, it's held up fantastic. I really like how positive and tactile the turrets are, the glass is pretty good, especially for its price point. I think it's a great option for someone looking to get into PRS or NRL but can't afford/ justify 2500+ on a Razor or NF.
Why does it have to be 500 or 2500 lol there are plenty great scopes for 1k-1.5k
Hey guys I Ben installing Arken scope for the last 4 years install in hunting rifle and NRL 22 Rifle and PRS center fire my customers love theme and are all of theme I have a problem with one and the customer service took care of the problem by send me a new scope I’m a gunsmith in Florida with a small shop if your are in a budget the Arken can’t be bit I own a razor gen2 and a couple of Knithforce and one USA optics in lower light the higher cost have batter glass and I can see better and pass 1000 is not problem to see my impact with the higher price but I love Arken
@@marcelorafaniello4723 Welcome to the USA! I'm glad you are working hard and prospering.
Thanks. Would love to see your thought on how the EP5 compares to the Atibal STEALTH HD 4-24X50 FFP
Great intel here. What I’d like to see someone do is a series on entry level components that punch above their weight class as the Arkens do.
Suggestions would be KRG Bravo, MDT Oryx and XRS, the Boyd’s laminated stocks, Origin actions with the interchangeable bolt heads, Howa 1500 rifles in general and prefit barrels.
I started building my own guns a few years ago and have discovered that less money USUALLY means less performance but not always.
Im sold! ordered the EP-5. Being from China doesn't bother me. Holosun makes one the best red dots on the market. Thanks Ray!
I have 2 SH4 gen 2. Awesome scopes. Saving up for EP 5
But it before the 25% off discount ends. It's currently $397 with Arken's current discount code. A seller on Amazon also selling the EP5 for $397. My guess it's sale price is going to end before September 1 then you have to pay $125 more for them.
I have both the Sh-4 (no-j) and the ep-5. They’ve been great out to 1000 yds in PRS club matches. Hope your heart is ticking along, I go in for my ecg and bubble test on Monday. 🤞
Is the j even out yet to the public? I own all of em except the new lpvo. Never sern the j.
Great points and glad you took your time reviewing them.
Awesome review. Very knowledgeable
I put this on a 7mmRem Mag. I am not a long range guy, but hope to be able to learn on this scope. I chose MOA for learning calculations.
Good video. Do you recall how much elevation adjustment was left on the scope after you zeroed? Their spec sheet says 32 mrad total (16 up and down). I have a Vortex PSTII and it has a horribly small 20mrad total leaving about 10 MRAD of Elevation adjustment so I run out of scope at about 800 yards. And I am not super impressed with the clarity of my $1000 PSTII. Actually considering buying the EP-5 with their 20 MOA cantilever mount for my Tikka 6.5 CM. Any thoughts?
Here is my take after owning 2 of them. All thing being equal price point they fit a budget friendly option for long range shooting. The adjustment in the turret is the best thing going for this scope. It tracks completely. It holds true so far. I have one for over a year now and run the turret a lot. I'm a hunter that loves to shoot long range. My wife tells me I'm more of a shooter that likes to go hunting and reloading and tinkering with loads is my thing trying to get them to shoot well out to 1000 yards. So the scope tracks and hold true both of them. Haven't had an issue. With that said the glass is the big issue. I've seen clearer Tesco scopes. You have to consistently adjust the eyepiece focus at ranges along with the parallax. Actually the 4x16x50 30mm tube anything over 200 yards just set the parallax to infinity. Its almost the same on the SH4. The optic quality is not at all what I expected. I had a lower end 4x18 Redfield and its much clearer than both of these. I just don't trust the turret adjustments on it anymore. I have 2 vortex HSLR and they are hands down way better optics that have flawlessly tracking turrets. I have 2 Zeiss conquest that have the best optics out of everything I own and the turrets on them track flawlessly. I was hoping for more when I bought the second one due to reviews and all the hype that I bought into. No you don't need to spend just as much on your scope as you did on your rifle but you do need descent optics. I wont buy another. I will buy Vortex, Zeiss, a much higher end Bushnell something that can track, and has respectable optic quality . For me when looking at what most consider budget scopes that track well I would not go any thing less than my HSLR's anymore since I've been bitten twice now. I need to be able to see the targets and not have to move every knob on the scope to do it. When seconds count when taking long range shots I need my scope to be able to focus and focus by only adjusting the parallax knob not the eyepiece and back and forth. This is just my experience with them and once I save up some more money again I will get what I need and sale the others or just keep them on my plinkers. They would be good for my 22 long rifle or a short range gun. Just my take. That my rant on the optics. Now are they durable scopes very much. I weigh 290 and took a hard spill with my sh4 last year on the side of of a slop. I use a backpack that holds my rifle but not exposed. Its an EBERLESTOCK backpack one of there large packs. I did not hit directly on the scope but I did roll over it. I checked zero and it was still on and took another shot at a rock at 500 and still holding true. My son nocked it over in my reloading room this year when we were cleaning and the next outing no issue. So that aspect hold up good. They are tough and track, just not optically clear. For me I need also an optically clearer scope. That my biggest issue and anything past 700 starts to look gritty where my vortex and Zeiss does not. Took it out today and was shooting. Tracking is still great but side by side comparison with the vortex and it much clearer at long distance looking through the vortex. Also I never touched my eye piece focus on my vortex. I had to adjust the eye piece on the arken and the paralex was set to infinity to get somewhat of a clear picture.
You are not going to get a reply, just like many others, here or elsewhere, saying the same thing....just doesn't fit the narrative
Thanks for the reply and sharing your experience on them. I agree with you completely about the clarity however, I wasn’t expecting incredible glass for less than $500.
I don’t find myself having to adjust the ocular as you described. While they are not perfect, they do fit a price point for a lot of people. You know that I do shoot more higher and optics and there is no comparison to those.
I don’t have a narrative I merely missed his comment. 👍🏼
Nice reiew. I have two SH-4s and like them. Yes, they aren't perfect, but for the price, a lot better than some of the big name scopes that I've owned. Most of all, I like the brilliance of the view for my old eyes.
Since you brought it up. I’d love to hear your opinion on the TT 525!
Love the honest review
Great video as always. Hard to beat for this money. Outperform way more expensive scopes. Btw another thing which I didn't hear (6 AM in a morning here 😴) is customer service/warranty. Usually this is big decision maker by buying optics. Personally my choice is Atlas Midas Tac . Stay safe brother
Lifetime warranty
I love my SH4 6-24X50. Mybother scope of choice is a Primary Arms 4-14x44. The only two I would buy.
Thanks for that advice!
*i have both, EP & SH. both work great for my application. I also have a night force and S&B. But those are on different rifles. IMO, cant beat the price point vs features*
This has been very helpful, thanks
I’ve had an EP5 new in the box for a while and with my last rifle purchased being a Savage Ultralite in 6.5PRC I’m going to use it finally. I’m sure I won’t be let down as I’ve never been let down by my NFS that I use and I’m not really expecting that type of performance from a scope that is about $2,000 less.
You’ll be unbelievably close.
For the price they're great. My biggest complaint is the eye box is tight and the reticle on the 4-18 is a little to fine for my old eyes, but it works.
Thanks for commenting rusty nut. I did read a couple of comments about the tighter eye box and noticed it as well. Definitely not bad but noticeable.
Thank You for Your time and knowledge being an older shooter I do appreciate the input for us old guys Thanks again Sir
I've got two of them on rifles. They are working flawlessly.