Firepower comparison hopefully was helpful for those interested. But only that without touching a few important points and without battlefield gameplay wouldn’t be enough to finalize this video. Ares and Nemesis are both Pantheon bots that have this shield called absorber that can’t be penetrated with normal ways. I tried to write down in the comparison chart 06:48 every important detail possible about them and their abilities. Ares has longer ability duration which is 9 seconds but 2 times longer ability cooldown. Nemesis on the other hand has 4.7 seconds of ability duration and 8 seconds cooldown. You might not be very familiar with those ability duration numbers but I deliberately measured them while editing. The next and probably one of the most important things I want to mention is the damage taken by the shield converted into ability damage. During the first half of their ability duration Pantheon bots convert a part of the damage taken by their shields into ability damage. Base damage of built in weapons can be increased by up to 100%. But the main thing here is that Nemesis converts 50% of damage taken by its shield into ability damage, while for Ares this number is 119%. What does this exactly mean? For example if Nemesis took 100 damage by its absorber shield, its built in weapon will deal 50 damage more. If Ares took 100 damage by its absorber shield, its built in weapon will deal 119 damage more. In this regards Ares with better ratio and longer shield duration is more efficient in reaching its maximum potential with its built in weapons. The other problem with Nemesis’ built in weapon is its firing and targeting system which should be changed. Nemesis users know this: rockets you fire with it go in the general direction of the target, they are not 100% focused on the target like the normal rocket weapons (Orkan, Cryo etc) do. ---------------------------------------------------- Nemesis’ strengths? Its ultra short ability cooldown and high HP pool increases its survivability in the battlefield and from my experience it can do quite a lot. Those quick rocket bursts can make up for its below average firepower of 2 mediums. What I would suggest to Pixonic from here is this: - Make it so that the rockets from the built in weapon of Nemesis fire just like other rockets do - Make it so that the damage taken converted into ability damage is much higher than current Also making all Pantheons a bit faster during their abilities would make stronger and better. Which one you vote for: Ares or Nemesis?
Even if you shoot them in the second half of their ability, they still enhance damage and the shots get stronger just not as much if they had been shot at in the first half
Dude you didn't take into consideration that you can trigger nemesis skill and it will start recharging as soon as the last rocket was launched, which neither Ares nor Hades can do. Nemesis Dps is actually higher.
I would choose nemisis has it has wayyy more health and 8 sec ability cool down(6 sec if pilot skill used) plus if someone activates shield breaker on you u won't die in 1 second
@@leonardoa1941 yh but all u need to do with the nemisis is phase shift and u get your ability back plus if someone goes in your shield u won't die in 1 shot
They should have never nerfed the nemesis way back. It was good the way it was, I had good times with it now it stands there waiting for the call. Great gameplay as always and nice comparison
The nemesis rockets are actually really accurate and can hit a moving jumping target with ease, nemesis shoots the rockets ahead to compensate for the time it takes for the rockets to travel to its target.
I'd say ares is good for agility, absorber weapons, but if you want to dish out some damage over an area and quickly, i'd say nemesis but for me, ares is my personal pantheon favourite
For those who were wondering which is more practical i would say nemesis because in this era robot that can spam its ability the fastest is going to get the upper hand.. I've seen alot of players use ares and nemesis and for me nemesis is a pain in the ass to take down because it can constantly use that sheild to avoid any damage while ares is just easy target after that ability is already been used ares is sitting duck it can't stay long in same place.. But of course robots like scorpion phantom ravana can get in those sheild and kill you if you don't have level 6 last stand..
You can run inside the pantheon shield to easily take it down or use shield breaker, and Ares has way more fire power. You don’t use the ability as much as you think 8 seconds is quite long
@@michealmotor yes i know that.. Not many players run sheild breaker these days because you have much harder target like ao jun, leech, titan, loki.. I used to run sheild breaker on my ao jun but after seeing ares or nemesis can just counter it with ps than its no used so now i use qr on ao jun since i don't have that legendary pilot.. Besides now even my lv 9 fenrir can survive against ares retribution... Nemesis is hard to take down if you don't have fast robot because its ability can be spam after 8 sec its very fast, the one i would say best is heades because it have 1 heavy and the ability cooldown is also fast, ares would probably last one...i normally take down ares faster than those other 2 bot since nemesis just got hp buff and headis just got buff recently..
I have a Test idea since those bot had a shield that can absorb damage income and refect all through build-in weapons So can u make a Nemesis use all fire power (dead-button build) to a Ares shield running target on a random bot to see a destruction time. U can add more Ares too Hopefully you can do this
Nemesis survives much much better. Sold my Ares due to the huge cooldown time and low health. Easy target for those Scorpions nowadays. Even though less firepower I feel like Nemesis is an overall better all in one Robot. Ares is just a damage dealer... But how can you deal damage if you can't even live long 🙁 ik most of y'all say I lack skills but guys trust me phantoms and Scorpions around the map... They just don't let me survive at all 🥴 I'm sure most of you can't. But the nemesis feels like it will survive forever due to that large health pool and quick ability. Hades and Nemesis are much better now in today's meta with low cooldown time 💯
I just switched my ivory Ravana for my old ares (: Ravana is just not so powerful as it used to be... At least not my lvl8 Ravana with lvl10 shotguns...
Ares ability deals more damage than nemesis but nemesis wins bcoz of short ability duration.. Always love nemesis... My favorite bot.Thnkz for making this video.. Make more like this...💖💖💖💖
I would choose ares cuz u can hide behind your shield for a very long time so u can heal yourself and helps you to escape from Titans or stronger robots and it's ability deals much more damage
Not really.. the nemesis is great even to this day (atleast for me because I'm not that high of a league) and the nemesis is really easy to get because it's a tier 3 robot
With nemesis, I would’ve immediately put up my shield to protect a friendly, the Ravana or whatever was getting hit pretty hard in first game. That’s all free added damage, to both reds and blues as damage to shields is included. You should redo this video when you know how to play nemesis correctly. Feel free to ask me to show you. Edit: 1. Purple shield should always be running 2. Fire towards friendlies should always be blocked 3. Ability can be activated early, so opportunities await. 4. Etc, Yada yada yada
TooSchool ForCool I don’t know you but you probably have a “I’m better at you “ smile. They way this comment is phrased sounds like ur just boosting ur ego
True it is backwards, it reminds me of an Ao Jun type of playing 'to hit and hide', Nemesis shield didn't stay long like an Ares shield, but it has a very short cool down, as for the Ares is much type of brawler, like an ao guang, both are weak but once it's ability active' it could survive longer in the battlefield.
It was on the video. The little pop up stats that come up on these videos are sometimes hard to catch. It is 54 kmh, which isn't slow by any means but it is 10% slower than the Ares.
Yes but it has 2x longer ability recharge and it's just way weaker today Besides, nemesis has way more health and it doesn't die instantly without it's shield.
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Firepower comparison hopefully was helpful for those interested. But only that without touching a few important points and without battlefield gameplay wouldn’t be enough to finalize this video.
Ares and Nemesis are both Pantheon bots that have this shield called absorber that can’t be penetrated with normal ways. I tried to write down in the comparison chart 06:48 every important detail possible about them and their abilities.
Ares has longer ability duration which is 9 seconds but 2 times longer ability cooldown. Nemesis on the other hand has 4.7 seconds of ability duration and 8 seconds cooldown. You might not be very familiar with those ability duration numbers but I deliberately measured them while editing.
The next and probably one of the most important things I want to mention is the damage taken by the shield converted into ability damage. During the first half of their ability duration Pantheon bots convert a part of the damage taken by their shields into ability damage. Base damage of built in weapons can be increased by up to 100%.
But the main thing here is that Nemesis converts 50% of damage taken by its shield into ability damage, while for Ares this number is 119%. What does this exactly mean?
For example if Nemesis took 100 damage by its absorber shield, its built in weapon will deal 50 damage more.
If Ares took 100 damage by its absorber shield, its built in weapon will deal 119 damage more.
In this regards Ares with better ratio and longer shield duration is more efficient in reaching its maximum potential with its built in weapons.
The other problem with Nemesis’ built in weapon is its firing and targeting system which should be changed. Nemesis users know this: rockets you fire with it go in the general direction of the target, they are not 100% focused on the target like the normal rocket weapons (Orkan, Cryo etc) do.
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Nemesis’ strengths?
Its ultra short ability cooldown and high HP pool increases its survivability in the battlefield and from my experience it can do quite a lot. Those quick rocket bursts can make up for its below average firepower of 2 mediums.
What I would suggest to Pixonic from here is this:
- Make it so that the rockets from the built in weapon of Nemesis fire just like other rockets do
- Make it so that the damage taken converted into ability damage is much higher than current
Also making all Pantheons a bit faster during their abilities would make stronger and better.
Which one you vote for: Ares or Nemesis?
Even if you shoot them in the second half of their ability, they still enhance damage and the shots get stronger just not as much if they had been shot at in the first half
Dude you didn't take into consideration that you can trigger nemesis skill and it will start recharging as soon as the last rocket was launched, which neither Ares nor Hades can do. Nemesis Dps is actually higher.
@@Meluel That's the case with all three pantheon bots, what are you talking about?
important note .- nemesis rockets go everywhere but directly to the target 🤣👍❤️
Excellent explanation with full details:very good job😉
i’ve been waiting for. this my whole life
I enjoy my nemesis. Hades making a comeback. Don't have an ares yet
The only ones I have is ares and nemesis
from the two i would choose ares, since even if it fires less it deals an enormous amount of damage, but my fav is still hades
Yes hades forever
In the ares gameplay “When ur team does jack shit”
I would choose nemisis has it has wayyy more health and 8 sec ability cool down(6 sec if pilot skill used) plus if someone activates shield breaker on you u won't die in 1 second
Ares has way more firepower tho
@@leonardoa1941 yh but all u need to do with the nemisis is phase shift and u get your ability back plus if someone goes in your shield u won't die in 1 shot
@@e1npk167 true but the getting 1 shot when an enemy gets in your shield also happens to the nemesis
@@e1npk167 Ares nowadays are not with shotguns they are more of a mid range fighter with a 500m range so less likely for an enemy to get close to you
Nemesis is trash
The video I was waiting for.
They should have never nerfed the nemesis way back. It was good the way it was, I had good times with it now it stands there waiting for the call. Great gameplay as always and nice comparison
Yes
After using the weapons in ares and nemesis you could have test it by absorbing the enemies fire power and returning it to them with the sheild
Wow thanks i have been waiting for this so long but with hades too but dont wory its very good still
The nemesis rockets are actually really accurate and can hit a moving jumping target with ease, nemesis shoots the rockets ahead to compensate for the time it takes for the rockets to travel to its target.
I'd say ares is good for agility, absorber weapons, but if you want to dish out some damage over an area and quickly, i'd say nemesis
but for me, ares is my personal pantheon favourite
For those who were wondering which is more practical i would say nemesis because in this era robot that can spam its ability the fastest is going to get the upper hand.. I've seen alot of players use ares and nemesis and for me nemesis is a pain in the ass to take down because it can constantly use that sheild to avoid any damage while ares is just easy target after that ability is already been used ares is sitting duck it can't stay long in same place.. But of course robots like scorpion phantom ravana can get in those sheild and kill you if you don't have level 6 last stand..
You can run inside the pantheon shield to easily take it down or use shield breaker, and Ares has way more fire power. You don’t use the ability as much as you think 8 seconds is quite long
@@michealmotor yes i know that.. Not many players run sheild breaker these days because you have much harder target like ao jun, leech, titan, loki.. I used to run sheild breaker on my ao jun but after seeing ares or nemesis can just counter it with ps than its no used so now i use qr on ao jun since i don't have that legendary pilot.. Besides now even my lv 9 fenrir can survive against ares retribution... Nemesis is hard to take down if you don't have fast robot because its ability can be spam after 8 sec its very fast, the one i would say best is heades because it have 1 heavy and the ability cooldown is also fast, ares would probably last one...i normally take down ares faster than those other 2 bot since nemesis just got hp buff and headis just got buff recently..
@Marc H yes.. Once that sheild is up you just go for kill right..
I used to run nemesis during ares meta miss it( it lacked firepower)
Ares is a beast especially when fully upgrade able to take down titans
you my dude are way underrated
Thank you for doing this!
Hades - "Am I A Joke To You 😐
🤣🤣 Great video 👋🙂
Aygir..Could you Please make a vid about Storm vs Corona after 6.3
And gameplay for them on Ravana. Thanks
I use nemesis to protect titan from heavy attack from titan
Nemesis was my first good bot
Same.
Same
I like hades the most
Its well balanced there
Just have enough firepower
Retribution not that long beacon protector brawler
Ares is more of a damage dealer than a tank
Nemisis is a tank with higher hp and faster cooldown on god shield.
Nice video
I have a Test idea
since those bot had a shield that can absorb damage income and refect all through build-in weapons
So can u make a Nemesis use all fire power (dead-button build) to a Ares shield running target on a random bot to see a destruction time.
U can add more Ares too
Hopefully you can do this
Aygir can you please make a video on Hades vs Ares
Gracias esta duda la tenia hace mucho tiempo y no estaba seguro de cual de los 2 producir
Nemesis survives much much better. Sold my Ares due to the huge cooldown time and low health. Easy target for those Scorpions nowadays. Even though less firepower I feel like Nemesis is an overall better all in one Robot. Ares is just a damage dealer... But how can you deal damage if you can't even live long 🙁 ik most of y'all say I lack skills but guys trust me phantoms and Scorpions around the map... They just don't let me survive at all 🥴 I'm sure most of you can't. But the nemesis feels like it will survive forever due to that large health pool and quick ability. Hades and Nemesis are much better now in today's meta with low cooldown time 💯
For me, nemesis is a good counter against scorpion
Mi momento a llegado :)
Thank you👍
I just switched my ivory Ravana for my old ares (:
Ravana is just not so powerful as it used to be... At least not my lvl8 Ravana with lvl10 shotguns...
jenisly jensen since now ravana isn’t a good beacon holder I Changed my lvl 9 Ravanas from storm to atomizer
playlist pls ? :v
Will you be doing Hades also?
Ares ability deals more damage than nemesis but nemesis wins bcoz of short ability duration.. Always love nemesis... My favorite bot.Thnkz for making this video.. Make more like this...💖💖💖💖
Wait nemesis inbuilt weapoms can go throughtphysical shield
Shubhra all rockets do
Make a video on scorpion in built weapon firepower. Plz
I would choose ares cuz u can hide behind your shield for a very long time so u can heal yourself and helps you to escape from Titans
or stronger robots and it's ability deals much more damage
Aygir could you do a video on new nerfed shotguns on scorpion or ravana.
Do you guys think Ares is worth getting? I have the gold saved up but I don't want to regret it.
Please test ravana Corona
Like bro
Hades with the legendary pilot could hold its ground against meta robots.
Can we see max fenrir with max 3 heavy armor
Do something wit the hades please.
Ares has 20 sec coolxown bruh
You should also include hades and it aslo got buff
I choose ares because it have more firepower
Ares is still the best pantheon imo
I wonder where the hades lands in there
Pantheon bots made non-wallet warriors underpowered more than anything so far.
Not really.. the nemesis is great even to this day (atleast for me because I'm not that high of a league) and the nemesis is really easy to get because it's a tier 3 robot
We need ares vs hades AYGIR!!!!!!
They are most important pantheon bots
And I already have an ares and now grinding for hades
Au guang vs au jun ability plz
Is it even a comparison?
How about hades?
Too strong
Pixonic should just replace the medium hardpoints on the nemesis with 2 heavy ones , its firepower is laughable
With nemesis, I would’ve immediately put up my shield to protect a friendly, the Ravana or whatever was getting hit pretty hard in first game. That’s all free added damage, to both reds and blues as damage to shields is included. You should redo this video when you know how to play nemesis correctly. Feel free to ask me to show you. Edit: 1. Purple shield should always be running 2. Fire towards friendlies should always be blocked 3. Ability can be activated early, so opportunities await. 4. Etc, Yada yada yada
TooSchool ForCool I don’t know you but you probably have a “I’m better at you “ smile. They way this comment is phrased sounds like ur just boosting ur ego
@@emotionalavocado2336 well...I kinda agree with him though.. because of nemesis fast ability recharge you can utilize it to do much more
ARES (FUTURISTIC QUARKER- IVORY ATOMIZER)
VS. NEMESIS (ATOMIZER)
More like
Ares (quaker, atomizer)
NEMESIS (IVORY ATOMIZER)
Can you please do the comparison for me❓
Nemisis best
+1 οποίος είναι Έλληνας!
My Ares is a real killer with the atomizer and punisher !! Punisher coz I just don't get the quacker and only seems to get the atomizer like 6 times
I still run the hades mostly, since ares sucks and I don't have good enough weapons to use on nemesis
Yes
Nemesis sucks
@HARRISON NGUYEN Huh?
@@ayman473 The bot itself is good, but is weak with only 2 of my medium weapons
Ares needs health increase
Ima get the nemesis after i get my ares:^
So for dps over long period of time nemesis kewl but to quickly stab someone ares is gud
Ares: Make sure to kill them in one encounter
Nemesis: Hit and hide repeatedly
You said it backwards
It’s Ares that has damage for long period
And nemesis to quickly stab someone
Well nemesis cant stab someone quickly cuz they wont die from one stab ares can
True it is backwards, it reminds me of an Ao Jun type of playing 'to hit and hide', Nemesis shield didn't stay long like an Ares shield, but it has a very short cool down, as for the Ares is much type of brawler, like an ao guang, both are weak but once it's ability active' it could survive longer in the battlefield.
Hades??
Nemesis is fast too
Hmm...what is the top speed of Nemesis. I know Ares is 60, but I don't know what the Nemesis speed is.
It was on the video. The little pop up stats that come up on these videos are sometimes hard to catch. It is 54 kmh, which isn't slow by any means but it is 10% slower than the Ares.
He used Maxed Tier RodHog in the gameplay. Just letting you know
Imagine there was friendly fire 😁
Leech
hi guys
Nice teammates in the 2 match! XDD
Nemisis for brawling Ares for range and Hades for both
Mihali Katsafaros nemesis is for medium range
@@michealmotor it can be used for brawling as well and it does a better job then the ares
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Waiting for hades
I prefer the nemesis 😊
Damn i should have gotten hades instead i chose ares its so bad even a leo can kill it
Hey bro can subtitulos pleas
Sorri. Dhis in a bak sorri:(
hades vs ares
421 good vid thumbs up
Ares es más potente. Por eso aun se lo usa en liga campeón.
Eres demasiado puntero 0u sarcasmo para muchos jaja
ARES protect better and dmg better
Yes but it has 2x longer ability recharge and it's just way weaker today
Besides, nemesis has way more health and it doesn't die instantly without it's shield.
to bd honest I like ares more
Hello
Greece !!!
Early!
i préfère ares
nemesis is too bad, i love the ARES! nemesis is bad (in my opinion)
nemesis is bad cossack in 1v1 cossack wins nemesis bad
@Marc H manni gaming made the video to top of robots and ares was the first nemesis was the tenth
in my opinion the best robot in the game is ao jun the ravana and hawk
Nemesis is a great robot
This bots are one off the best counter for hawk...
When you see a hawk with shield breaker