The incubators ended up being a wash basically. Only got 1 ting scarabs from them, maybe slight profit. All scarabs already sold (good ones on currency exchange, rest in bulk at 95% ninja price). Next strat is going to be BIG. Thanks for watching!
So funny that the entire video is this meticulously calculated strat, real professional and detailed. And then i get hit w the Based or Cringe question towards the end and i just lose it
@@powrsh119 Why are you running them on 8mod tho? Essences basically don#'t scale with anything. The only diffeerence is between white and yellow/red maps
@@VaraNiN Because I am able to, not only do I make massive money with essences, but because I run T16 maps (coincidentally also 8mod) I get TONS of scarabs, fortresses, I even got a hinekora's lock (unrelated tbh) but you get my point. Since I am able to easily run that, I'd rather run that for an ever so slightly higher cost/map for x1.5 - x2 return
The reflecting mist item drops from the reflecting mist after clicking reflect. instead of giving you a choice between items it drops onto the ground upon you clicking it.
Hi empyrian, instead of deli orbing, how about deli mirroring? I'm thinking Legion + Deli + Beyond and maybe breach if you can fit it. Legion is a huge pause timer for the fog so you should consistently reach the boss for fog +1 reward. Simulacrum splinter drop and deli orbs at the end will be huge, and you can harvest reroll deli orbs into the good ones
You looted some simulacrum splinters, but no Deli orbs ? Did you not mention these ? Or am i missing something about deli orbs drop while running deli % maps ... ? @Empyriangaming
Nope. The mist has a very high chance to give you a mirrored jewellery choice, and a very, very low chance to drop the item version. Both come from the same source.
the mist thing, i got lucky to find one after killing a mob and when i went to go use it, it became the currency u use on item to give it the mist effect
i was doing something similar to this but instead of the pack size/breach scarabs i just used 3 of the “2 additional rewards” scarabs and was making 11+div and hour. more rng heavy tho since the additional rewards could all roll armorers or something
The good thing about this kind of strat is that you can boost speed and master the picking up techniques to a point that you are running 4 orb maps in 4-5 minutes, at that point it starts to become REALLY profitable. At the same time, the game starts to feel like a job, because ur going to be timing maps and constantly paying full attention... its a two way knife, tryharders love it, i can't really stand it anymore. Ur choice
First week of the league is group play, followed by 1-2 months of solo play. How could the stream be mostly group play? All of these are solo and are streamed :D
I think you should factor in the results the cancer or ease to sell the stuff. I always go full on harvest because how chill it is and how fast you get your money back compared to those cancer strat where you need a busted char and gotta loot 3 inventory per map
while this strat for sure isn't the most profitable it does really fulfill the power fantasy of just endless hordes of enemies with the amount of breaches you had. so would be quite fun and fun per hour matters more than div per hour to me
@@jordanlambert8 Np, there's a video on this channel something like "20 tips for poe" where empyrean goes into this and many other things for beginners, got this from there like a year ago.
That's a LOT of effort for something that gives less divh than simple doubling cornucopia (not even rotation) jungle valley harvest farm from last league. The economy shift is real (That said, harvest does not seem like it's in a good shape currently either)
Hello Sir Empyriangaming, I’m here to thank you for the Based or Cringe series. It's really informative and enjoyable. Thanks a lot! Essences strat for next?
Packsize only real use is harvest juice or simply to increase the odds of spawning nameless seer in maps. Otherwise, rarity beats it all days simply because of gold gains.
Hehe electric donuts are the bane of his build. Ran a variation of it a few leagues ago so good till donut, you die every freaking time to the donut, there isn't any real fix for it. Such an enormous hole in the build.
I run a doryani build, and I solve donuts with divine flesh, lethe shade, and a lot of flat Regen (vitality/stone golem) Die in about 3 seconds of donut instead of 0.3
@@EntropyUnleashed you run ci with this build tho... divine flesh will insta kill you. Lethe shade and maybe flame / fleshing the periodic less damage node on trickster but yea on this build divine flesh wouldn't work.
If you go 5 orbs, (besides that fact that the content is around 10x harder), you have 60% more investment and only lilke 40% more loot. Which means, you make around the same profit, for 10x harder content.
Loot tile rewards basically means things that guarantee certain types of loot. Like legion seargeants with a currency reward over their head, expedition logbook/blight chests, essences that guarantee loot, altar mods that give % chance to drop something etc. You're basically forcing loot with those mechanics. In a poverty league like this one, where regular ground loot from normal monsters is very weak, targeting loot tile rewards is a good idea. The alternative used to be just upping the amount of normal monsters like rares in your map, killing a lot of monsters historically used to be how you got loot.
I really miss t17 with b2b ground loot. I was able to blast them in few minutes and it got really great div/h and also adorned nerf killed one of my fav currency strats. Delve boss rushing was great and on good days it averaged out to be giga profitable. I had a day where over 10 hours of playing, boss rushing averaged me over 70d an hour. But that was really lucky and on a multi mirror char. (Manaforged arrows) This league is truly a poverty league and on top of it, i am too busy to play. Didn't play at all for over a week. So far i only made laughable 250div. When i come home, i will need to rethink my strat
they hugly nerfed the deli harvest reroll and made the chance of getting the skittering from harvest reroll 10 times less then the scarab rework itself nerfed the strat i don't know why they gut something like this so hard
I need a quality of life feature that allows when you close a map all the currency items to drop outside your map device in bulk so I don’t have to individually pick them up. Not items, of course.
keep in mind he has a 200 div character you won't get as many scarabs but the cost will be the same so you're looking at 30-40% which is 3-4d an hour and thats without counting sell time so 2d/hr good luck
@@TheSlithice Because most of his rewards are coming from being able to full clear breaches at 60% deli. If you can't do that, you won't make as much, you may only get 12-15 sets of rewards on average instead of his 18-22 reward sets.
@@HoldMyPan For deli itself, yeah. But the map shits out scarabs like crazy as long you add a lot of monsters to it. Personally I dont run it, but I buy scarabs from people who do. They are getting like 20-25 divs of scarabs in 10 maps
@@constantin2449 Its not same strat. Idk if they even use deli orbs, but they for sure dont use breaches in there. You can easily blast T17 in 6 min on good build. No matter what you do in T16, it will always be less money than good T17 strat. And if you spend ~200 div on a build, you might as well just run T17 instead pretending you are "casual player" and lock yourself in T16.
It took me 2 minutes so sell good scarabs on the currency exchange and an additional 30 seconds to sell every other scarab on TFT at 95% poe ninja price (25 div trade).
@@franciscoamaral103 6000h in, i played it when TFT wasnt even a thing and played it after, i just think trading sucks, its the least favourite thing to do in PoE imho
This strat would make a decent amount of currency/hour with 100% delirious but at that point there's no reason to run this strat over blasting through t17s now that they are actually doable. There's a much bigger chance to get some insane drops that way too. So yeah, kinda cringe ngl
Really, how? Doesn't it take that shit shield that kinda wrecks the build. I couldn't get it myself, build is super powerful till donut. Donut makes you cry every single time.
😂…everything you do is so unrealistic to everyone else that plays it’s funny…..y’all crazy…wish I had 5 other friends to play with all the time…you lucky to have tons of friends dedicated to the grind
I just spent a week playing with a 10 div build doing low investment strats, not touching group play cut, not touching kingsmarch profit. How much more realistic do you need lmao
@@franciscoamaral103 🤣…call me names all ya want…all I was saying I wish I had ton of friends to play with cause I could do a lot more in the game like the dude that made this video…sorry I don’t have to time or friends to do all the content in a day and get thousands of divines ….sry to disappoint …I wish dude the best and he is lucky to have a group of dedicated grinders…I wish I had that is all I’m saying…nobody is as good as this dude at this game because of that support system and he is able to craft things i would never be able to ever…bro is lucky and I wish everyone the best
if he fine tuned his filter to get rid of all the half c scarabs, and was able to run 5 deli orbs, it'd be much better. problem is the difficult:reward ratio is off.
The incubators ended up being a wash basically. Only got 1 ting scarabs from them, maybe slight profit. All scarabs already sold (good ones on currency exchange, rest in bulk at 95% ninja price). Next strat is going to be BIG.
Thanks for watching!
spam watching your videos and you just uploaded. im rly curious if harvest is based or cringe with the awakening scarab pls try it next! :D
I heard ornate incubators are pretty consistent.
@@hatdogchuu9819 Yeah they are like a div for every 2nd pop
Me and friends really love your low investment strategies! If you kept making more low investment ones we wouldn't complain ..
@@Epindaryreally? What lvl? I used like 30 of them got like 1 div.
that brick into 35% effect 16 flat es on a es cluster at 10:25 is kinda funny tho
So funny that the entire video is this meticulously calculated strat, real professional and detailed. And then i get hit w the Based or Cringe question towards the end and i just lose it
There is NO WAY I am stopping to pick up all that crap LOL
And then sell it!
@@jerds9293 Which is why I instead do 8mod essences, so much money which is extremely easy to liquidate
@@powrsh119 Why are you running them on 8mod tho? Essences basically don#'t scale with anything. The only diffeerence is between white and yellow/red maps
@@VaraNiN Because I am able to, not only do I make massive money with essences, but because I run T16 maps (coincidentally also 8mod) I get TONS of scarabs, fortresses, I even got a hinekora's lock (unrelated tbh) but you get my point. Since I am able to easily run that, I'd rather run that for an ever so slightly higher cost/map for x1.5 - x2 return
@@powrsh119 how are essences worth anything when theyre all worth 1-3c
got my first itemized reflecting mist and it looks exactly the same but just drops one instead. shit was weird
7:26 had me wheezing with "Not the double mana donut!" lmao
From now on, that's what I'm gonna call it, thanks!
6:47 something about seeing giant monsters attacking fast with weird animations is just chefs kiss
The reflecting mist item drops from the reflecting mist after clicking reflect. instead of giving you a choice between items it drops onto the ground upon you clicking it.
"I'am wierd. But that's ok" - every exile ever.
best secret strat is to use 80-100% deli but run a blue map, gives a little bit more profit per / h
Hi empyrian, instead of deli orbing, how about deli mirroring? I'm thinking Legion + Deli + Beyond and maybe breach if you can fit it. Legion is a huge pause timer for the fog so you should consistently reach the boss for fog +1 reward. Simulacrum splinter drop and deli orbs at the end will be huge, and you can harvest reroll deli orbs into the good ones
Deli, Ritu, Blight is better. Or Deli, Ritu, Beyond. Same side of the tree, less spread, more points into the mechanic
blight is gonna be better for that strat especially with the usually useless one big chest blight scarab. you get soooo many mobs.
@Empyriangaming Why did the amount of scarabs in your tab change @15:32
It’s a different tab and then cut into the actual project scarab tab. Sorry about the confusing cut.
What build does he rock in the start of video? With all life on Energy Shield?
You looted some simulacrum splinters, but no Deli orbs ?
Did you not mention these ? Or am i missing something about deli orbs drop while running deli % maps ... ?
@Empyriangaming
I'm not sure you can drop deli orbs from deli maps. Only from mirror reward
@@fisherman08123 this is correct
Insane content as always Mr. Gaming.
I'm new to POE and this all seems very strange to me. Like whats the point in these orbs?
GGG said in the reveal stream that the itemised version drops from the mist itself. Did they change it?
Nope. The mist has a very high chance to give you a mirrored jewellery choice, and a very, very low chance to drop the item version. Both come from the same source.
@@PowerfulSkeleton Like I thought then, thabks for confirming
ctrl + Rmb should auto move filtered items in your stash to inv and visa-versa
I think the thing with deli orbs is gonna be running them with 100% deli on easier maps to increase div/hr
the mist thing, i got lucky to find one after killing a mob and when i went to go use it, it became the currency u use on item to give it the mist effect
i was doing something similar to this but instead of the pack size/breach scarabs i just used 3 of the “2 additional rewards” scarabs and was making 11+div and hour.
more rng heavy tho since the additional rewards could all roll armorers or something
Why did you swap from using Exilence to Wealthy Exile? I remember that being your go to tool in previous leagues/videos XD
The good thing about this kind of strat is that you can boost speed and master the picking up techniques to a point that you are running 4 orb maps in 4-5 minutes, at that point it starts to become REALLY profitable. At the same time, the game starts to feel like a job, because ur going to be timing maps and constantly paying full attention... its a two way knife, tryharders love it, i can't really stand it anymore. Ur choice
5:25 nice mouse review!
I LOVE watching this series. I don't watch the stream cause it's mostly group play, but I LOVE this series. Keep 'em coming please!
First week of the league is group play, followed by 1-2 months of solo play. How could the stream be mostly group play? All of these are solo and are streamed :D
@@Empyriangaming That's cool, I'll check it out more then! Didn't know group was just week 1
"unfortunately i also bought a divine worth of incubators" has me ded
How does blocking scarab drops impact this farming strategy I wonder? Can you try to isolate ambush scarabs.
Waiting for that Mapper guide / strat
Thank you so much for such videos. Love you bro❤
I think you should factor in the results the cancer or ease to sell the stuff.
I always go full on harvest because how chill it is and how fast you get your money back compared to those cancer strat where you need a busted char and gotta loot 3 inventory per map
How do you click on something and it instantly pulls up the price?
awakened PoE Trade
while this strat for sure isn't the most profitable it does really fulfill the power fantasy of just endless hordes of enemies with the amount of breaches you had. so would be quite fun and fun per hour matters more than div per hour to me
Can someone explain to me how you can send things to your stash so quickly? I feel like I'm so slow with just clicking
Download X-Mouse Button Control and bind Left Click to Scroll Down.
@@xnkatta thank you! saved my index finger lol
@@jordanlambert8 Np, there's a video on this channel something like "20 tips for poe" where empyrean goes into this and many other things for beginners, got this from there like a year ago.
what about gamba lifeforce rolling cards ?
That's a LOT of effort for something that gives less divh than simple doubling cornucopia (not even rotation) jungle valley harvest farm from last league. The economy shift is real
(That said, harvest does not seem like it's in a good shape currently either)
Would this strat be better if you blocked some of the bad scarabs?
you cant, this is loot tiles not floor loot
Is wealthy exile better than exilence ce?
I love your vids. Keep it up
Hello Sir Empyriangaming, I’m here to thank you for the Based or Cringe series. It's really informative and enjoyable. Thanks a lot! Essences strat for next?
6:40 if i had a moth as big as this in my house, i would move out. xD
Moths are chill man, stop the violence :D
Hey. How come not using pack size chisels? Too expensive?
Packsize only real use is harvest juice or simply to increase the odds of spawning nameless seer in maps.
Otherwise, rarity beats it all days simply because of gold gains.
@@noobkaka567 Thanks!
I got my Kalandra itemized drop from a reflective mirror, no amulet/ring inside but the thing dropped
I found like 25 reflecting mists in map, 3 of which dropped the currency item, I don't think it is as rare as a lock (as I've never dropped a lock)
that is unethical lucky, it is one in 50 at most
nice vid!
Hehe electric donuts are the bane of his build. Ran a variation of it a few leagues ago so good till donut, you die every freaking time to the donut, there isn't any real fix for it. Such an enormous hole in the build.
I run a doryani build, and I solve donuts with divine flesh, lethe shade, and a lot of flat Regen (vitality/stone golem)
Die in about 3 seconds of donut instead of 0.3
@@EntropyUnleashed you run ci with this build tho... divine flesh will insta kill you. Lethe shade and maybe flame / fleshing the periodic less damage node on trickster but yea on this build divine flesh wouldn't work.
i just woke up and here is a vid
If you go 5 orbs, (besides that fact that the content is around 10x harder), you have 60% more investment and only lilke 40% more loot. Which means, you make around the same profit, for 10x harder content.
Would be interested to see this done with t17 maps and maven chisels of scarab.
What does "loot tile" strat mean? I keep hearing this term thrown around recently but I don't know what it means, or what the alternatives are.
he's looting the map hence he said hes adding packsize and increased explicits for more quant etc, while some other strats u dont full clear maps
Loot tile rewards basically means things that guarantee certain types of loot. Like legion seargeants with a currency reward over their head, expedition logbook/blight chests, essences that guarantee loot, altar mods that give % chance to drop something etc. You're basically forcing loot with those mechanics.
In a poverty league like this one, where regular ground loot from normal monsters is very weak, targeting loot tile rewards is a good idea.
The alternative used to be just upping the amount of normal monsters like rares in your map, killing a lot of monsters historically used to be how you got loot.
@@Joegengstah Appreciate it!
I really miss t17 with b2b ground loot. I was able to blast them in few minutes and it got really great div/h and also adorned nerf killed one of my fav currency strats. Delve boss rushing was great and on good days it averaged out to be giga profitable. I had a day where over 10 hours of playing, boss rushing averaged me over 70d an hour. But that was really lucky and on a multi mirror char. (Manaforged arrows)
This league is truly a poverty league and on top of it, i am too busy to play. Didn't play at all for over a week. So far i only made laughable 250div. When i come home, i will need to rethink my strat
@@encore_ this is not what "loot tile" means
I've played a juiced t17's today with 60% deli and man... you have to use portal not consumed chance to get all the loot back home hah
Just sad that exchanging with the gold trade market is so expensive.
i cant run these kinds of maps cause my dynamic culling doesnt work anymore. my fps craters down to 2 fps....
they should replace breach rings with a stackable currency
I think theres a new dupe bug or something. Yesterday I saw same guy selling dozens of ralakesh, dozens of bottled faith etc
they hugly nerfed the deli harvest reroll and made the chance of getting the skittering from harvest reroll 10 times less then the scarab rework itself nerfed the strat i don't know why they gut something like this so hard
would have loved to see some scarab chisel on those maps. It would only double your investment ! Totally worthy...or not.
You can itemize the reflecting mist, it has a chance to drop when you click on it
Just do 80% del till lvl 14 rewards it's way faster and you don't need that strong of a char to run it.
Good alternative
I need a quality of life feature that allows when you close a map all the currency items to drop outside your map device in bulk so I don’t have to individually pick them up. Not items, of course.
damn that was a big birb
i would suggest making the title like S2 EP4 Based Of cringe/ Deli strat Or smth
I thought Deli strat would be profit at all.
Well...I'm still a breach/blight lover
keep in mind he has a 200 div character
you won't get as many scarabs but the cost will be the same so you're looking at 30-40% which is 3-4d an hour and thats without counting sell time so 2d/hr
good luck
Why would you get less scarabs? Unless you're bricking 6 portals its gonna be the same on average.
@@TheSlithice Because most of his rewards are coming from being able to full clear breaches at 60% deli. If you can't do that, you won't make as much, you may only get 12-15 sets of rewards on average instead of his 18-22 reward sets.
why should you not play a 200div char aswell after 2 weeks?
its 2 weeks into the league its ur fault if u dont have a 200 div char noobs
Did it 2 leagues ago it was good money but card one was more fun
🔥
This made me realize that me getting a mageblood is.. let's say unlikely.. :D
Do that in T17 with more scarab roll and you will get 20-25 div/h
do you get more high valued scarab by doing this??
FYI Delirium specific rewards aren't affected by item qty and rarity modifiers. It only affects the drops of the delirium monsters.
@@HoldMyPan For deli itself, yeah. But the map shits out scarabs like crazy as long you add a lot of monsters to it. Personally I dont run it, but I buy scarabs from people who do. They are getting like 20-25 divs of scarabs in 10 maps
@@_Aynix yes but it takes a lot longer then 6 min to run these maps. So its not 20 div per hour. But 4 Orb in T17 is sth more like 15div/hr
@@constantin2449 Its not same strat. Idk if they even use deli orbs, but they for sure dont use breaches in there. You can easily blast T17 in 6 min on good build. No matter what you do in T16, it will always be less money than good T17 strat. And if you spend ~200 div on a build, you might as well just run T17 instead pretending you are "casual player" and lock yourself in T16.
lol pulled 2 div from lvl 80 mines
can incubate trinket , we get smarter every day
5 min ago is crazy
so 7 hours to run the map, prob 7 hours to price and sell the scarabs too
It took me 2 minutes so sell good scarabs on the currency exchange and an additional 30 seconds to sell every other scarab on TFT at 95% poe ninja price (25 div trade).
tell me u never played endgame without tellling me
@@franciscoamaral103 6000h in, i played it when TFT wasnt even a thing and played it after, i just think trading sucks, its the least favourite thing to do in PoE imho
if its not based or cringe, its crazed!
Bráško proč tam píšeš že miluješ Haničku?
The result should be Based Cringe Poe)) Thanks Empy
this didnt even account for preparation time and all the sorting and potential time for selling everything right?
These videos never do
Who is 😊paying that much for sanctum books? I get them for 10c all day lvl83s
This strat would make a decent amount of currency/hour with 100% delirious but at that point there's no reason to run this strat over blasting through t17s now that they are actually doable. There's a much bigger chance to get some insane drops that way too. So yeah, kinda cringe ngl
7:24 just doryani things
It's fixable
Really, how? Doesn't it take that shit shield that kinda wrecks the build. I couldn't get it myself, build is super powerful till donut. Donut makes you cry every single time.
You’re based, that’s for sure
Hey thanks
Hello tree atlas?
It’s in the description of the video, as always.
I have seen 2 div this season.........
yeah only droped 9 div for me, but me and the boy made over 200div framing
Tujen alone sold me 3 today
Pretty disappointing for that level of investment. :(
On a scale from based to cringe, deli orb farming is... cringe-ish.
You can incubate the trinket??????????? Guess you learn something new everyday, lmao.
Empy: ...we don't care about quant...
My dumb ass: *surpriced picachu face*
how I can sustain
Lmao
Other 3 hours to buy and sell all stuff😂
I bought orbs in bulk and sold scarabs to 1 person at 95% ninja price in 30 seconds.
Hahahaha cringe imo :D
missed Opportunity, titel is missing: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED!" or "YOU WILL NOT BELIVE WHAT HAPPEND NEXT!"
😂…everything you do is so unrealistic to everyone else that plays it’s funny…..y’all crazy…wish I had 5 other friends to play with all the time…you lucky to have tons of friends dedicated to the grind
I just spent a week playing with a 10 div build doing low investment strats, not touching group play cut, not touching kingsmarch profit. How much more realistic do you need lmao
@@Empyriangaming y’all beat the game in like 5 hours…it’s just funny that all 🫡
@@charltonfrost7236 noob
@@franciscoamaral103 🤣…call me names all ya want…all I was saying I wish I had ton of friends to play with cause I could do a lot more in the game like the dude that made this video…sorry I don’t have to time or friends to do all the content in a day and get thousands of divines ….sry to disappoint …I wish dude the best and he is lucky to have a group of dedicated grinders…I wish I had that is all I’m saying…nobody is as good as this dude at this game because of that support system and he is able to craft things i would never be able to ever…bro is lucky and I wish everyone the best
This is cringe for sure
Not fine bro that a really bad div/h
very fun tho
if he fine tuned his filter to get rid of all the half c scarabs, and was able to run 5 deli orbs, it'd be much better. problem is the difficult:reward ratio is off.
18-20c blue prints? dude you play on some other league or what?? there like 2 to 5c each like wtf???
83 blueprints are not 2-5c
I play on PC, softcore trade. Not sure where you play but that is the price of i83 blueprints in bulk. More if revealed.
@@Empyriangaming yea yea check once more :D