What does Jesus think about wine, marriage, and His mom?
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Water>Wine>Blood. That’s a beautiful point.
You are awesome! In my evangelical circle it’s prohibited. But scripturally, to drink a sip is not a sin. Of course I wouldn’t preach it where I’m at or the brethren would stone me!
I understand. I know many people who think being a Christian means you can’t drink. It’s not scriptural but a human work. Some people see it as a sign of righteousness. Islam not Christianity is a religion of tea totaling. I have a lot of people I know who view alcohol as bad and a sin. It’s not Biblical. A work of man.
Then get stoned, Freddy R!
A sip? Rest assured that the guests at the wedding in Caanan had had more than a sip when Jesus gave them more wine.
But Mediterranean cultures have always had a better drinking culture than No. Eu and Usa
@@travist7777 LOL!
Thanks!
Great insight on final words of Mary - “do whatever He says” ; great point - He is her savior more than her son just like He is our savior
Thank you for pointing out that Mary never had a wedding feast of her own.
I liked the points you made. Having the awareness that Mary advocated for others for what she herself didn't get was touching.
When you said we are as the servants in this wedding, I found myself on pause. If you were meaning "We" as ministers of reconciliation then I would agree. We as ministers should do everything He tells us to. He tells us to go preach and baptize.
I think we, as listeners, are the guests of the wedding, and that this is not a little distinction. We are those guests given the new wine.
Jn 2:30 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.
It isn't written for you to do... it's written to give you faith in His Name. It's written to do unto you. Just as baptism is being done unto "Be baptized" be washed by another. We are those served by the servants firstly; the Lord having made Himself Servant of all. Maybe we can say: Therefore sanctifying servanthood? Idk, needs to be tweaked perhaps?
But firstly see that you are a guest at this wedding.
There's room for more servants too!
"Here am I send me"
We had the Wedding at Cana for the reading and sermon last week. We must be on different reading cycles.
I like Marty Luther buckled up in the backseat. Better to be safe than sorry. And on that topic … according to the dictionary “sober” means unaffected by alcohol. Studies show that even one drink is enough to affect the drinker. That’s a loss of sobriety. But good discussion on the dangers of drunkenness. And good point that we Christians should not be drunk at any time. Thanks Pastor Bryan.
Hey, if you switch to the historic lectionary, you can preach on the wedding at Cana every year!
I love your saying that everything Jesus is associated with, is sanctified
Love that film..I was listening to the other things you were saying.😊
My wife and I used to be teetotallers. Now we have a glass or gin or rum occasionally. Or wine.
John the Baptist was not Mary's nephew. Elizabeth was her cousin, not her sister.
Mary was upset because she didn't have a wedding? Huh? Reading things into the scripture? But we as His servants do well to "Do whatever He tells you."
"Ha! You think water into wine is something? Here, hold my beer..."
“Have you been baptised” Nacho Libre
Do the Pietists use images/icons ?
What does Jesus think about divorce? Unfortunately, it all went horribly wrong
Abstinence, yes.
It must have been a family wedding for Mary to be ordering the servants around. Jesus, as the eldest son, would be responsible for any crises that arose, like insufficient wine.
Not likely, since Jesus’ reply was, “What is that to me? My time has not yet come.”
@@sueregan2782 "My hour", meaning the time of His crucifixion. Jesus' major miracles are all to demonstrate His authority and divinity, and His full ministry had not yet begun. Yet, He was obedient to His mother, as a good Jewish son should be.
No one drove home drunk from that wedding.
Good point
They charioted drunk
@gumbyshrimp2606 Wagons and carts were for cargo. Chariots were for war and racing, and thre probably weren't any in Cana. Most people walked and a few rode donkies.
@@markhorton3994 nah
I always thought that Jesus was irritated with Mary, because she's wanting him to do a miracle and it's not time yet.
Abstention?
Drunkenness is prohibited, and yet it appears to be tolerated in this gospel narrative. In any large crowd the guests will be indulging to varying degrees, and the master of the feast marvels because it is customary to serve the lesser wine after the senses have been dulled by the better wine. Jesus doesn’t comment on any of this. It’s a wedding. It is good. He blesses it by giving them good wine, and does not hold back the gift from anyone on account of their excess. That isn’t Jesus approving drunkenness, but it is at least a toleration of it.
Water to Wine. My two cents.
He made something ordinary into something very extraordinary. Wine requires grapes and the yeast this is naturally on the grape skin & leaves. Water can't become Wine! So, it was a miracle, right? He can do that to YOU! JESUS MAKES YOU EXTRAORDINARY.
And we, who are ordinary bread and wine, become the Body and Blood of Christ.
8:53 So now Mary at Cana supposedly was upset and particularly sensitive because she never had a proper wedding herself?
She had been infinitely blessed to be the mother of God but for some obscure reason she was holding a grudge (after 30 years!!!) because she couldn’t have a one-week long wedding feast?
I’ve heard many preposterous things that Protestants say about Mary but this wins the cake.
Doesn’t it even occur to you that maybe Mary got concerned about the bride and the groom simply because she was most loving and caring?
What did Mary do to you Protestants that you always find an excuse to bring her down?
Whoa there pal, no need to get defensive over a woman who can’t hear your prayers
Abstentious?
It is not an either/or but a both/and. It is not either Mary or Jesus it is both Mary and Jesus. Does this take away from Jesus, no! Mary is a creature, but an exalted creature by God himself. Since the prophecy in Genesis 3:15 (the woman, is Mary, not Eve) to Rev. 11:19 (the new ark of the covenant) to Rev. 12. Yes, the Blessed Virgin Mary points us to Jesus, but God does not take away her intercession, as in the wedding is clear her intercession. And also prophesied in Pslam 45:17, “I will make thy name to be remembered in all generations (Lk. 1:48): therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever.”
God Bless!
Prohibitionist?
Ganz Genau
的确
The holy sprit was involved, Jesus said his time had not come. His human nature needed a nug. The holy sprit moved Mary to do here last requirement as Jesus,s mother. You can tell this is the parting of Jesus son of earthy Mary and his move to Son of God and Savior.
How can you tell? The way Jesus address,s his mother in front of the servants and displies. It was disrespectful in terms of honoring your mother. Jesus calls her woman as if she was just like any other woman except she was blessed to carry the son of the heavenly father.
There is much more revealed here then what has been taught over centuries. This took place after his required Baptism by John the Baptist and receiving the Holy Spirit as his guide. Also it was preceded by his going into the desert for 40 days full of the Holy Spirit and his temptation by satan. What say you pastor Wolfmueller?
Jesus's Baptism , Gong into the wildness 40days, Temptation by Satan, Cana wedding and water, tasting like the best wine and turning to wine.
The title “Woman” is not a sign of disrespect, it is the opposite - a title of dignity. It is a formal mode of speech equivalent to the English titles, “Lady” or “Madam.”
The word Woman (gynai) is also misleading. It sounds to us very rough and abrupt. But it is the same word as Jesus used on the Cross to address Mary as he left her to the care of John (John 19:26).
Jesus’ reply to Mary was not so abrupt as it seems. ‘Woman’ (gynai) was a polite form of address. Jesus used it when he spoke to his mother from the cross (19:26) and also when he spoke to Mary Magdalene after the Resurrection (20:15)” (vol. 9, p. 42).
The fact it is not a title of disrespect should be obvious from the fact that Jesus, as an obedient Son who fulfilled the Torah perfectly, would never have spoken irreverently to his mother. His perfect fulfillment of the Torah includes a perfect fulfillment of the command, “Honor your father and mother,” which in the literal Hebrew is “Glorify your father and mother.” This is why the corban custom was so wrong - because it left one’s parents scrounging for food and money and thus publicly humiliated, violating the command to glorify your father and mother by seeing that they are not publicly shamed by being reduced to begging. To publicly speak irreverently of his mother is something that Jesus would never have been able to countenance. Actually, the way Jesus is using the term - at the two key junctures in John’s Gospel where Mary appears - is symbolic and emblematic of her role in redemptive history. Whereas Eve was the First Woman, Mary is the Second Woman, just as Adam was the First Man and Jesus was the Second Man (1 Cor. 15:47).
@@bondservantofyeshua9015 Thank you for clarifying this!
Calling Mary his mother woman was not a derogatory term. It was a separating term. Along with what do I have to do with thee.
WHAT?!?!!? John the Apostle is now a wine expert? That's it. I've heard enough. Byeeeeeeee.
14:13: “She was a sinner… like you and I”
And you call yourself a Lutheran? Do you know that Luther professed Mary’s lifelong sinlessness?
What a poor distorted idea of Mary modern Protestants have been brainwashed to believe in. So sad.
Have you ever wondered why for the past 2000 years both Catholics and Orthodox (and even Luther!) have professed Mary to be totally sinless?
This lame understanding of Mary is a pure invention of later reformers, which derives from a poor understanding of Scripture.
If you do not understand that Mary is purposely depicted as the new Arc of the Covenant in the New Testament(which is absolutely clear from Luke 1 and Revelation 11 and 12), you will never understand why it is absolutely obvious that God created her as the perfect (sinless) vessel that would bear Jesus, the bread from heaven, exactly as the Arc of the Covenant in the Old Testament would contain the manna.
This is bible studies 101.
Mary was descended from Adam, and she knew it. In the Magnificat, Mary refers to God as her Savior. If she were sinless she wouldn't need a Savior.
@@stephenkammerling9479 Are you saying Luther got it wrong?
Mary calls the Lord her savior because he preserved her from all sins since conception.
The sinlessness of Mary is a doctrine that has been taught by the entire Church (East and West) unanimously and consistently for the past 2000 years.
The idea that Mary was sinful like you and me is a perverted doctrinal invention of modern reformed (not classical) Protestantism.
Again, as I said several months ago Mary was a descendant of Adam. Check the genealogy in early part of Gospel of Luke. "As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." The Apostle Paul said this in either Romans or First Corinthians. To me ALL means ALL.
@@stephenkammerling9479 you don’t understand the dogma of immaculate conception.
Mary’s salvation from original sin is due to Christ, so what Paul says is true. The only difference between Mary and us is that she was saved by Christ preventively (by preventing her from acquiring original sin) while we are saved through baptism (which washes away our inherited original sin).
Both Mary and we needed Christ as our Savior. The only difference is the way Christ saved Mary vs how he saved us.
@@thejerichoconnection3473 Where in Scripture does it say God saved Mary from sin preventively? Our sin nature through Adam is passed on through the man, not the woman. Jesus Christ is the "Seed of of the Woman" that God promised Eve back in Genesis 3 and would crush the serpent's head. When you mention the whole church historically believed in the sinlessness of Mary, you're referring to the Roman Catholic Church in the West and the Orthodox Church in the East. Mary was righteous because she believed God. She appeared to be just a young woman engaged to be married when the angel Gabriel appeared to her. In actuality what I'm really taking issue with is the worship of Mary. We can go to God directly, no one needs to get between Jesus Christ and us.
Prohibitionist
Tell the Calvies this. 😂