A 1970's Mercedes Is an Affordable, Durable, & Fantastic Classic Car!
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What an elegant machine - down to the marvelous color.
I absolutely love Paul Bracq-era Mercedes and BMWs.
Not a Benz colour. They used to have really horrible colours back then.
@@iHelpSolveIt I have w108 4.5 with this baby blue
@@Uc9uE3pKsS6uQ i worked on them back then and this colour wasnt in the books perhaps they have it specific to one market?
Man that 2 door design looks amazing
I agree
Slam that door close an listen to the sound of the door latch.
It rings like a safe..
Amazing
Yeah, they're really kinda cute. Mercedes always looked like toy cars to me, but a small 2-door coupe looks very serviceable.
It’s called a coupe
Yes, but the two doors cost significantly more than the 4 door
A good comprehensive video. Growing up I always viewed MB as ugly cars. Then I drove my first one which a friend owned. 60' 190D, 4 on the tree. When I sank into those butter soft seats I fell in love. Then he let me drive his MB 220D. I was sold. The only thing I have against German cars today is that they are too technology driven. BMW, Audi, VW, MB. To get the higher quality you have to buy an older well cared for and serviced one from an older owner. Usually they recognize the value these cars represent. You're developing your own voice Tommy. Great job.
Yes, most of the German makes today are in a race to provide bleeding edge technology which doesn't do much for reliability
You're right, the new ones are all computerized and not reliable. If you can find one from the 90's or preferably before the biodegradable wiring harnesses in good condition, you can have a forever car if you keep up with maintenance and keep it rust free.
My Father bought a 4dr/SL 1972 4dr 220L. This was out of the country. He could not stop telling us: 5 boys and the youngest sister about every safety feature, adding the safety door latches that never jammed or the thumb place in the steering wheel and index fingers…when all my male brothers grew they all have had a MB and two of them currently own one. More modern of course. I almost purchased one but got out of it by being the only brother to own a BMW 5 series. All German made. A lot of stories can be told, in summary, people buying this vehicles bought them for the reasons that you enumerated, in your presentation. Very smart Tommy.
I have a 1972 4 door 250 it’s my daily during spring and fall. Love it
I daily drove a 1980 240D (W123) from 2005 through 2012. Slow but reliable is definitely a great way to describe that car. And it was *SO* easy to work on -- servicing that car was a *DREAM!* Those engineers actually *CARED* about how difficult the technicians' jobs were back then!
One particular experience I had really amazed me, with regards to Mercedes-Benz in general... In the summer of 2010, I and my family were out and about one Saturday afternoon, and the door-latch on the front-passenger door broke, so the door would not shut. We were *miles* from home -- but happened to be only a mile or two from a Mercedes-Benz dealer. So we carefully drove over to the dealer, hoping they could help us. Not only did they have a new door-latch in stock, but they installed it while we waited, and we were back on the road in less than an hour!
They had a part in stock for a then-THIRTY-YEAR-OLD vehicle, and were able to get it installed while we waited! Is there any other brand in the world that would keep that kind of stock on-hand?! You can't get parts for most cars that are more than TEN years old, to say nothing of cars that are THIRTY years old! *Especially* at a dealer! Can you imagine driving into a Ford dealership with a 1980 Pinto and asking for a door latch? HA! They'd laugh you right out of there. I was completely blown away by the level of service we got at that Mercedes-Benz dealer that day.
When I first started buying Mercedes 20 years ago, that was the case. But sadly, today, Mercedes dealers are just like the others; parts for old models are rarely available, and never stocked.
@@brianthompson6561 Depends on the country, parts supply from UK dealers is excellent
My daily driver is a 1983 300 sd bought when she was just turning 20 years old for 2,500. Dead simple to maintain.
I have a 1968 Mercedes 220d, when I brought it the only issue was a squeaky belt. It turned out that the tensioner had its threads stripped due to being improperly adjusted in the past. My local Mercedes dealer had a repair kit in stock, in the UK. At this point the car was 50 years old.
I'm really surprised they took in a Benz that was older than 20 years old. most euro dealers wont take in cars that are 15 years old or older. simply because of parts and length of time it takes for diagnostics. but then again it was a door latch and probably had a ton of dust on the box it came in.
I got the 250c. Bought back in 2011. It’s a great car to own. I have it in the NJ/NYC Area and drive into the city frequently. People just love this car and will wave, smile and chat with you. Everyone, everywhere. Coupes are super rare to see. Never met one while driving mine, even at meets.
Retired Coast Guard mechanic/marine engineer just likes the sound. Not quite the same as the classic 2-stroke GM 671 in the 30 and 40 foot patrol boats, but close enough.
I drove a 1984 Mercedes 300D. 0 to 60 in a week. It's not an exaggeration the car was ungodly slow, BUT when the turbo kicked in it did finally move with authority.
My first car was a 76 240d. It was reliable, but man that thing was slow. If you wanted to pass anyone, you had to turn off the a/c.
I feel that tail lamp simplicity and serviceability.
My wife has a modern Mercedes with LED tail lights + turn signals. They look nice, but the stock unit tends to develop leaks in heavy rain and then the LED circuits short out. Instead of a $5 replacement bulb at Autozone, we get to replace the entire tail lamp assemblies at $300 each.
Surprised they're not over $1000 each!
That's why the older analog cars were better. Now they do planned obsolescence and don't even have a drain plug in the torque converter.
That’s EXACTLY why I won’t buy a Benz newer than 1991.
Great comments about Road and Track!! I grew up with these magazines, Hot Rod Magazine, Super Chevy, Mad,,,, ok Mad was not so important. Hahaha.
Of all the Mercedes you have purchased to date, this is my favourite!! Looking forward to see how it does!
my grandmother had one of these. I remember driving it as a teenager. automatic was geared so low in first it would have pulled a building off it's foundation.
Durability, quality, reliability, AND safety. That was a big selling point of MB when I was a kid in the 70's. Crumple zones, reinforced passenger cabins, etc.
When I lived in the US back in those days, I once heard my father say to a neighbor who had just bought an American full feature car: the day after your guarantee has expired, you’ll have fewer features than I have. A family joke was the type of car he bought: a “coop”. The US version of coupé (koohPAY). From then on we referred to them as les poules (the chickens).
I own a 560SEC, (also 2 door, "88, euro version) THE nicest car I have ever owned and driven for the last 14 years, mech parts are not expensive on par with lots of other makes, cosmetic however is another story. The difference with the 250C and mine is speed, big difference, anything up to and beyond 150mph. It's a car one will, and I have, do 1200mile in a couple of days and get to the destination thinking, "I want to drive more", really! The thing starts to make sense at anything above 75mph, it's an experience very hard to beat. No, not the fastest but the way it does it is just special.
My wife always wanted a red, with white interior ‘65 Mustang. I found a beautiful example at a great price, but it was white with red interior. I had her look at the car, and she said, “no, it’s just not that important anymore.” Instead, I bought her a 560 SEC. She was on ice, slid into the intersection, and was rammed the driver door by snowplow. She turned off the car, climbed over the center console, , and got out unhurt. A few days later, I saw the guy with the Mustang. He said, it’s a good thing you didn’t buy the Mustang, that snow plow would’ve sliced it in half and your wife would’ve been a goner.
You can tell that MB was run be engineers back then; no passenger side mirrors, ashtrays everywhere, not a single cup holder. I had a '90 Merc - ashtrays in every door but still no cup holder and while it had 2 mirrors only one was electric so there were in no rush to change.
There is a time for driving and, a time for drinking. Make the best of both!
My friend has a 300d from 1978 with 85k miles for $1500. He still drives it today, with almost 500k miles. He bought it In 1994. It also had like 65hp and 0-60 in 11 minutes. But 40mpg
I bought one for 850 not running, spent about 5000 getting to run and drive, very smooth ride and people love it. Parts are expensive. I'm about into for what it's worth, so don't expect to make any money with it. Buy it to drive a classic. Thanks for the video, very nice condition 250C
My father had 2 of these - one was in that very colour. Among the most charming and best built cars ever. The big steering wheels were unforgettable. Nothing like it today. And certainly not Mercedes.
Hey Tommy! Thanks for another great video man. I just love TFL Classics. These old mercs are amazing. I would really be interested in a series about later models which are a little easier to get. For example the W124 (S124/C124), which I consider to be the last real Mercedes, or even the later W210, which are also over 20 years old and can be considered somewhat collectible.
I had a plain old 1969 200, 200 had no radio from the factory, 4 cylinder, automatic transmission. I drove that while soldiering in Germany in 1985. Oh it was a 200, period nothing after the number. No American’s have seen a stripper Benz, but I owned and loved the car.
My father bought a brand new 1975 300D with the 5 cyl. engine and automatic. It road firm but not harsh. Fuel mileage avg. 42 on the Hwy. His older 190D had over 300k when he sold it.
owned a 560 SEC for 5 years. found out the hard way how expensive they are to maintain. when they hit around 15 yr old they start to fall apart and every time you visit the mechanic some more parts have worn to the point of needing replacement. Never got out of the mechanic shop for less than $2000.00. Drove like a dream. The trans felt like it was built by Rolex. Keeping it in great shape was a financial nightmare.
Officially my favorite TFL channel, great job Tommy!
nice coupe. it was competition for the BMW e9 2500CS and the Opel Commodore coupe. In Europe the W114 platform was often used as a basis for hearse and ambulance conversions.
Thanks for this great report. My first car was a W114 / 250 sedan for 2000 bucks. Mercedes taught the competition how to build solid cars for decades. And it was always a special feeling to drive a Benz. Nowadays, the differences to other brands have become smaller; you don't notice whether you're sitting in a Kia or a Benz.
I bought a 250C that was two years old with 18,000 miles. I'm not certain where it had been stored but the car was like new, corrosion free, and an eye catcher. It was darker blue with matching interior. I loved it!
Had to do a head job because the engine was designed for leaded premium fuel, so valve guides leaked when leaded fuel was no longer available. The head job was my first big repair expense, $674 in 1973.
It was in storage before I bought it. EVERYTHING rubber on the car had dry rot, and within a year of ownership a/c hoses, water hoses, boots, weather stripping, tires had to be replaced, another expensive repair that happened right away.
A friend bought the car 1975, took a new job in Boston, and to car was eaten up with rust in no time. Such a shame. The next generation of C Coupes weren't that appealing to me. I ended up with a 1980 S-Class TurboDiesel, and it's still on the road.
The indestructible M-B Tex interior is probably still around somewhere. The A/C was kick ass cold, very important feature when I bought it south Texas.
The paint finish was hard to keep glossy. It would dull in no time. My daily driver at the time was a new Plymouth Satellite Sebring. There was no comparison in quality between the two.
Benzo coupes from that era are joy to look at
My dad had two of these - one standard and the other automatic. Great driving experience when I was young!
"I love my classic 1970's Mercedes Benz! I love it I love it I love it!" *vacuum line leak* "Oh no!"
I have a 1972 220 in my garage, it's been there since 2008. It's rust and dent-free but does not run. It failed the emissions test in AZ and was taken off the road and never run again. The car being shown is an exceptional example and would be almost impossible to find and very expensive to purchase. I'm glad to hear that you paid a 'relative small amount of money', whatever that is. It's a myth that the diesel engines last forever, mostly they are destroyed by a lack of oil or missed oil changes.
I had a 1968 250 SL . It was my dream car to own during my High school years , and when I did , .... what a wonderful car it was ....
In the late 1990s, I lived in Singapore and owned a 1978 SEL 280. Loved the car, needed carburetor adjustment every three months, but it was a brilliant car and very dependable. It was also fantastic when using valet parking because it was always parked in front of the hotel/restaurant...all my friends owned newer and more expensive automobiles and they all ended up in the garage. Priceless, but I now live in Canada, and it was a right-hand drive.... great memories thanks
I owned a 280 C from 1973. What a wonderful ride and how elegant it was! I changed to a white rim backelite steering wheel which suits it better.
Great job Tommy. I’m a classic who loves all classic cars. Y’all keep’m coming
My pops had one , still my favorite to this date
Sweet solid cars.
My uncle had a string of them, all Diesels, late 1950s through 1970something. My older brother was impressed by them.
He found a 1961 model 190D in a barn in the 1960s, totally worn out (which must have taken a LOT of miles). He bought and rebuilt it and he and his wife did a lot roadtripping explorations, autumn leaf viewing etc. Diesel fuel was cheap then.
Having gotten a degree in computer science, he got a job with a hospital system's data center, and bought a new, basic 1968 MB 240D. Same front clip as the beastie in the video. They drove it to Alaska pulling a pop-up camper.
Later, an Army truck ran a red light and T-Boned the passenger side, totalling it. He had no serious injuries.
He then bought a used 1968 model 240 in prime condition with all the options he could want. That he had until his death.
My eldest son has a 1977 model 300D he is rehabbing in the garage.
If and when adding to my vehicles becomes viable, I'm considering looking for a TD (Turbo Diesel)...
Great video guys. Because of this I just bought a 69 280E that needs everything.
this guy knows how to buy old school mercedes, this and the W123 were clean as hell
And he lives in the west where salt on the roads in winter is a rare thing
Thought it might've been a Delta 88 or Grand Marquis. Never see cars like mine on TFL Classics.. Great video Tommy!!😃
By the way Tommy, Majority of American Cars of that era had the gas filler behind the tag located in the middle of the car, not on the left hand side like Current Automobiles
As Robert De Niro once said in one of his mob films 'That trunk can hold a lot of bodies'
They are not that cheap out here in Germany. We call them 'strich acht' '/8' 'stroke or das eight'.
My grandmother had two of these at the same time when I was a kid. A white one and a brown or black one. There's something magical about them that has stuck with me.
Reimagined with a wrap .. your favorite color!
Very cool possibilities!
Tommy, what a beautiful car,,it looks timeless and, what a great video brother,,,you explain things very clearly and cover mechanical aspects of the car.
I had a mid 70's 230. Not a bad car at all. Wish I still had it :(
Hey Tommy excellent choice as I love these the w114 as just as good imho as w123 🎉 I’ve been looking at these as second car and the 250 cheaper than the 280E and prices vary significantly depending on spec - looking forward to how you enjoy this - you’re a true petrol addict and we love it 🎉
Great video Tommy, I really appreciate the attention to detail in the description of the interior. Your love for quality automobiles is apparent.
Beautiful vehicle and a great example you have there. Thank you for the comprehensive once over very educational.
I had a 1974 240D and an 1987 300D. I loved them both. I sold the 87 with 389,000miles on it and it was still going strong.
MBs of that era can't be beat for outright build quality.
Great car and a excellent find, these W114 are beautiful.
I put six hundred thousand miles on one... then I sold it, still working perfectly.
Its incredible how how quality these old Mercedes are. They are built like a luxury tank
Very interesting Tommy, my son had a 1984 Mercedes years ago, I'm really not sure but I believe it was a 300 & I know it was a non-turbo diesel. It was always amazing to me how far advance they were back in the day & that thing was a luxury tank.
That’s what I drive. NICE.
Of course, crash worthiness has come a long way in 55 years.
Was it in the USA? If so, the 1984 300D and 300SD would be a stock turbo. The 190D was a non-turbo in 1984. The 300 was non-turbo through 1981. The 240D was last sold in 1983 and was never a turbo.
@@paulk9985 Euro w 5 speed.
That is a beautiful classic Mercedes-Benz coupe! If you're in Albania , you'll be a man amongst men for owning such a classic Benz!
Those W123 Bodies are tanks. The finicky bits are the vacuum power locks and the floors tend to rust out.
I had a 1975 300. One of my favorite cars.
Hell yeah, I had a black W 114 280 C Coupe. And 4 other Benzes. Lotta car for sure.
Ok Tommy, I clicked too see what ya had under camo & thought it's another Benz sedan , woop-d -doo, but then I happened to notice it's actually a coupe or a 2 door , but thought that is pretty damn slick and could be a bad ass looking ride with a few custom touches or upgrades and if done properly, so nice job at keeping me interested 😂
Nice W114. I still think you're going to miss your W123 :)
Tommy you have a knack for acquiring adorable cars bubbie.
Maybe keep a modern speaker in the dash and cover the speaker, not the grill, with speaker cloth to hide it. Not all Mercedes diesels are slow. At least I don't consider mine, a '91 350SD, slow😀 Looking forward to the next video 👍
While stationed in Germany in the 80's I had a 69 250CE with a 4speed. It had a carb and was not fuel injected. Nice little car, wish I had brought it back.
Excellent review of a top-notch car. Thanks for posting this video!
wow... not usually jealous of you guys with Benz but this one.....you really scored with this one.
I had a 280 CE same series. I loved it . Great car. Beautiful smooth 6 cylinder engine.
Lovely car! Regards from south Sweden.
Rhe W114, W115 and W116 are my favorite ones but anything before 1990 is a good buy IMO
Nice car. A couple of nitpicky details.
They never sold the 200D W115 in the US. Only 220D, 240D and 300D. Also, the coupes only came with gas engines.
If those really are 15 inch bundt wheels, they are quite rare. Almost all bundt wheels, including on the following W123 and W126 cars, were 14 inch. Bundt wheels were available on W114/115 cars from 1972, but were rarely fitted to US specification cars.
The rear window heater switch is push pull, not twist.
The lockout on the power window switch is for the rear windows to stop kids from playing with them.
The S position on the shifter gate only locks out 4th gear. The L position gives you 1st and 2nd.
I don't see how removing the AC system gives you better access to the front of the engine. The AC condenser sits in front of the radiator.
A couple of cool features you didn't mention. Dual zone heater/vent system, and seat height adjustment.
My dad had a 22o D. It would wake the dead but that never bothered us. And was so comfortable.
I have a 1883 240D. I also had a 1983 300D turbo. I drove it for 21 years and sold it for half what I paid for it, after the transmission went out. These are easy cars to work on, and great to drive.
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Watch out for those HOT exhaust pipes when you use the trunk!
Ask me how I know?
Another great review!
Not sure if anyone said this yet, but in Germany, we call the w114 diesel "Wanderdüne" which translates to wandering dune. That's how fast they are 😅
But they get you anywhere anytime.
MBz windshields were designed to pop out upon impact. Many people back then never bothered buckling up even when seatbelts were available...
i really want this model,my father had one with same engine but 4 doors version in 1980s
Such a beauty. I have a 76 US spec. Coupe. Jelly of the Euro Bumpers and early w114 door mirror and Back lights
Curious that the v8 convertible/hardtop SL's are now cheaper than the W123 Coupes nowadays!
Nice purchase.
Excellent choice.
When I was 19, I bought a 1971 250CE in London. the injected cars with the 2.5 liter m114 engine had 170hp and could scoot. I was able to hit 115mph in it
One thing I remember from back in the day was the Mercedes seats were considered the safest seats to be in in a crash. Some American seats, when rear ended, would fold back and you could be thrown through the rear window. Looking at these in Ecuador there are surprisingly many sedans here in good shape for $26,000. Yes MORE expensive in EC.
While in Germany! One of Sgt in unit was station with! I rode in this first M Benz, love it! Mike from Missouri
The /8 coupe has such a wonderful body line 😍
I had a 240 dl it came with after market conditioning because the Germany one was cold but not very Strong. I would recomend vintage air .
My 240d had great factory air, very cold. But you had to shut it off if you wanted to accelerate at all!
You made a mistake on the carbies these cars had. They were NOT Solex!! They were Zenith 35/40 INAT carbies, with vacuum operated secondaries. I've owned several Mercedes cars, & still drive one now. As for the wheels, some of the W114 variants DID have factory alloy wheels!! My W114 did.
I would love a 240D from that era.
I have one of these. It has the 4 speed automatic on the column. Inline 6 with dual side draft carbs. I've had it to 110 mph. It's the domestic German model.
Love the car! I'd be very happy with one!
I had a 250CE as my first car, still miss it and the foot operated wipers
Amazing old car. I think it’s a good car to have if you can do most of the work yourself and parts availability is somewhat of a deterrent too.
l have a 66 volvo amazon and can relate to what you are saying, basically a tank of a car that is happy to curse around at 40-50mph
Oddly I've been wanting a 114 body Coupe for near 30 years but have yet to acquire one... these /8's are are just peaches. Vilner did an outstanding job period-correct Retromodding one of these. Such a shame someone converted to the Webbers over the much better (but but more confusing) Zenith INATs. Far better carbs.
If it was loved and well taken care of. Heck yeah. I love these older honest cars. Only thing is the parts cost might scare me, but I love the older W series Benz'es. Great rides.
Nice review Tommy. I know your probably sick of wearing glasses but if you did get surgery to correct your eyes, it's probably a good investment to wear sunglasses to protect them. The good thing is the sunglasses can be a regular thickness. Unlike my coke bottle glasses if I didn't have contacts👍
Absolutely awesome car
I always loved the squared off look of the W114 cars
I love it , reminds me of the Chevrolet- Nova II (duece)