Getting Started With Matek ELRS R-24-V Receiver with PWM Converter
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- Now that the Radiomaster ER6GV receivers are out, I suggest these as a better and easier to use alternative. It will save you from all of the steps related to the PWM Board.
If you're using ELRS 3.3.x or later, you'll now need to use the target: Generic targets used as a base 2.4 GHz --- Generic ESP8285 2.4Ghz RX
Matek Product Page: www.mateksys.com/?portfolio=el...
ELRS 3.0 Lua Script: github.com/ExpressLRS/Express...
ELRS Configurator: github.com/ExpressLRS/Express...
Matek Configurator: www.mateksys.com/Downloads/FC/...
Matek CRSF-to-PWM Board Firmware: www.mateksys.com/downloads/fw/...
USB-TTL Driver Download: www.silabs.com/developers/usb...
0:00 Introduction
3:33 ELRS Lua Script Update
4:17 Express LRS Configurator
5:12 Update TX Firmware
10:35 Update ELRS Receiver Firmware
13:41 Update PWM Board
17:45 Wiring the Receiver/PWM Board
19:32 Testing Telemetry
21:00 Adjusting ELRS Module Settings via the LUA Script
23:17 Failsafe Setup
24:33 Conclusion
very nice crisp and clear explanation. Great video! I'll be giving these a try. Thank you
Well done Matt!
great job, thanks for helping me through this crazy process. Glider updated and linked to the transmitter now...
Great video. Thanks for creating it!
Thanks for sharing this. I got two of these, and have just got the first one set up following your video. The process would have been quite a hassle, but your video made it pretty straightforward.
Thank you for sharing and thanks to you I got 3 of them now working! Very nice receiver but like you said a bit difficult to setup..
Thank you for this video... Very helpful to setup receivers for my gliders!!!
very helpful and worked, thank you!
I loved the detail in the vid AND the chapters! Thanks for that.
Thanks for watching!
Very well explained.
Thanks Barry!
Thank you for a great setup vid, you made this less painful on setting up this RX. I soldered up a six-pin right-angle header strip to the PWM board for ease of interface for me. I'm new to ELRS and now waiting on my RM Ranger Mico ELRS module to arrive for the final setup of this RX.
Dick H.
Thanks Dick, really glad to hear this was helpful for you. Definitely convenient to install all the header pins if it works in your setup. Enjoy!
did this months ago....works fine...just make sure you have latest firmware
Also usb for configurator has to be connected to RX2 and TX2 uarts and it takes about 10 sec before you will see data after a connect
Thanks for your video!! I was going crazy 😅and now it works!!
The same procedure for 2S? Thank you so much!!
Yes, just follow the steps from 17:45 for 2S, but not the steps from 18:18 -19:30
And add a connector for your battery to connect to + to 'Vbat' and - to 'G'. Then you'll have no need to connect a battery to the PWM pins.
when we will have a video with your variometer configuration ?! 😅 thank you so much for this video, I like too much this receiver but I was lost. I finished setting it up yesterday morning and today I bought two more.
@@durbanxx this is mostly covered by the 'testing telemetry' section at 19:32, you'll also just need to set the vario 'source' to 'VSpd' after scanning to new telemetry sensors. I use the default range values.
Thx for the vid man! Just got my receiver all setup for my deviant coming next week. This vid saved me 🙏
One question.. so I got the receiver and the pwn board updated to to the latest. For whatever reason, I don’t see any “ALT” Vario sensor being discovered.. everything else like the vertical speed is working perfect.
Do you have any idea why it’s not being discovered? I can also reach out through ig or something if that’s easier
If the PWM board is updated correctly to V2.3.0, you should be able to discover the ALT sensor provided you are running EdgeTX 2.7.1 or greater (or OpenTX 2.3.15 and greater) with ELRS up to date. One thing to try would be deleting all the sensors and discovering them again. Also can you confirm which versions of firmware you are running for: 1. Radio Operating System and version 2.PWM Board firmware version 3.ELRS version on RX 4.ELRS version on TX.
Enjoy the Deviant, I love mine and it climbs like homesick feather.
@@spinlaunchglide dude thank you so much for the quick response! I’ll run through everything again especially the pwm board fw.
Ahh I’m so stoked. It’s my first DLG so it’s definitely gonna take a second to get all the modes setup correctly but I’m ready for it!
@@mckaykimball nice, well if you have any build or setup questions my rcgroups username is mushroomed. Might see you in the Deviant thread there. I think the main things for a good maiden are making sure the surfaces all move in the correct direction, get the CG right - erring on the forward side. Little to no elevator in your launch mode at first, you can always add it in slowly over time. And test the effect of the brakes at altitude first- or land with them initially. You can then set up a flap to elevator mix to keep level or push the nose down a bit as the brakes move through their travel.
@@spinlaunchglide I really appreciate that dude! Thank you tons for all of the advice. I might be reaching out to double check everything looks solid before I maidan if that’s cool! Thanks bro
@@spinlaunchglide also I finally got “ALT” to pop up. I had to update my Zorro’s actual fw aside from the elrs.. I didn’t think about that till you suggested. Thanks for the help dude, I’m glad that’s sorted out.
quick question: have you happened to use this receiver in your deviant by any chance? looking to buy one of these myself but i'm not sure if there's enough space for it and the battery. awesome video regardless, very informative
Yes, I have one in the Deviant and it fits nicely on its side in the nose with a 1S 380mAh lipo. I cut the pins one set of pins away so there's a channel for each servo and one for the battery, but don't know that this is even necessary to fit.
@@spinlaunchglide Good to hear! Will also be buying one for my medina as well. Another question: how do you set up the arm switch on your dlgs? Elrs requires it but do you just have chanel 5 to always on?
@@OkiOfOina I only fly four channel DLGs, and have never had to do anything to set up the ELRS arm switch. I imagine it is defaulting to on/armed. I think this same approach would work for the Medina, and you could set up a separate motor arm switch.
Very very good introduction into this very good but also painful receiver. You have to set up the ELRS-TX-module, your transmitter, your receiver (via ELRS-configurator and Browser) and the PMW-converter with the matek configurator. You have to find the correct .bin file and so on. And you have to solderate the pins, before all other actions.
One question, how can I set the Tims (is it necessary with 50Hz?)? And is it possible to get the voltage of the ESC battery?
The 'set tim' function can be used while the pwm board is connected to the computer with TTL. Use Matek configurator to set the output frequency of the PWM signal to your servos. If your servos can operate at a higher frequency, you can change this but otherwise it is not necessary.
You can get the voltage of the ESC battery to be shown by telemetry, but in this case it is important to only supply power to the receiver once. You must disconnect the positive pin from the servo connector coming from your esc, so that the BEC is not supplying the receiver with power. Then, connect the VBAT to your ESC battery's positive terminal, and negative to G. You may wish to wire these directly to the ESC's battery connector, or make a small adapter to make it easier to run these wires to the receiver.
@@spinlaunchglide Thank you. Could you also use the battery balance connector? Which wire should I take?
I moved channel 5 to channel 11 with the Matek configurator and put a switch on channel 11 for arming. Is that OK? The switch works fine.
@@butena55 no idea about the arming sorry, I don't use the ELRS arming with my gliders as I've got no motor to arm and only 4 channels! May be a good question for the ELRS Discord group.
You should be able to use the balance connector to power the receiver and get voltage telemetry, same thing would apply about removing the positive wire from your ESC's servo connector. It'll probably be the two pins on the balance connector furthest apart to get the full voltage. This video goes over it: th-cam.com/video/avgxp2XDC-M/w-d-xo.html
@@spinlaunchglide For your information: to display the BEC battery voltage, it is sufficient to connect the outer red wire of the battery balance plug to Vbat. It is not necessary to remove the positive pole of the servo pin, also the negative pole (G) on the board does not need to be removed. So I only put a single pin into the balance connector. It is also important to set the right Vbat_scale with the Matek app. The optimal value is '110'.
Hi, in the video regarding the pwm board configurator, you say at time 16.56 "open the firmware file your trying to update to". Where do I get this file? Do I get a list when I click the "Open File" ?
The are a bit hidden on the Matek site, they're in the 'firmware update' tab under the 'PWM board' page. I'll add them to the video description. The direct link is here www.mateksys.com/downloads/fw/CRSF_PWM_fw.zip
Hi, just discovered your channel. What is that module in the back of the TX16S just under the handle?
I'm using the Happymodel ES24TX Pro module to allow ELRS communication. The TX16S can now also be purchased with internal ELRS, but I prefer to have the internal multi module and add the ELRS externally. This is a very robust radio protocol that can handle very long range (50-100km). In my case though, I'm just using this to help overcome the signal blocking effects of a carbon wing/fuse. As you can see from the video, it's a bit of a complicated system but it does work very well.
And in this case, when I'm referring to updating the TX Firmware, it's just the TX module firmware being updated.
@@spinlaunchglide Now you are making me think about upgrading my old Airtronics 8000 to a TX16s with ELRS.
Why do you prefer to have the internal still as a 4IN1 multi module??Back ward compatibilities because you have many older RX? Or is there an advantage to keep the Multi module technology?
Cheers.
@@Coyotehello mainly just to give a very wide selection of protocols in total. 99% of my flying these days is on ELRS. The external ELRS module are more powerful than the built in ones, and by using an external module also help dissipate the extra heat outside of the radio.
Matek rates the operating voltage from 5v and higher. What is your experience with running this receiver on 1s? Would you recommend this?
The Matek R24V receiver definitely operates below 5V, and I believe is also rated lower than 5V. I've tested the receivers down to 3.2V (my servos stop operating at this voltage). Paired with some of the new LV servos this might get some more flight time before loss of control.
What does no 5v regulator built in.....i want to use it for boat...i already have elrs pwm betafv but i have no battery voltage....but use it with the same battery 12v which i connect esc with...then i connect the tree pins of the esc to the receiver.
So is it the same thing with this elrs r24 v .
Thanks
Looks like the BetaFPV PWM ELRS receiver does not have the ability for external voltage input for telemetry. Maybe best to use a timer instead, or choose a different receiver.
I've been using ELRS for a couple of years now. This receiver has gotten me beat so far. It's not going into WiFi mode and I can't connect to the pwm board. I have another Matek pwm board that I have no issues with so I'm guessing I've got a faulty one. Did you have any issues with any of yours?
No faults with the three I've got. I haven't heard of a fault from anyone but doesn't mean it can't happen. May be worth reaching out to Matek? The only thing I've heard of is someone accidentally connecting battery power and USB at the same time and frying the pwm board. So no luck trying wiring direct to the PWM board? Have you tried wiring a UART direct to the receiver board? Not able to manually activate the RX's wifi via the LUA script?
@@spinlaunchglide a UART to the Rx is my next plan or I have an an old Tx I could flash with the binding phrase Matek have given the Rx and try that way. One thing I did notice is the pwm board was supposed to start doing fast flashes for CLI mode and I seems to do this one but not repeat. I will see if I can get in contact with Matek as well. Thanks
@@spinlaunchglide all sorted. The Rx flashed frist time with the UART. The PWM board connected straight away after that. Not sure what the issue was but nothing major 😁
.. by any chance would you know of a way to clear a bad flash to the pwm board? Had power interrupted so the flash aborted, only get solid blue on the pwm board now. thx!
I think the best chance is to wire directly with UART and flash via UART. Sometimes other problems with flashing like 'out of memory error' can be fixed by downgrading to 2.5.1 then installing the latest version.
@@spinlaunchglide thx, I'll try!
Wow have had an idea of using elrs for gliders and know we have it (after i bought frsky setup..) :(
Well the frsky stuff is good too, different pros and cons! Nice hardware and much better failsafe setup.
For some reason, my rx wont go into binding mode... Any ideas???
Check that the version of your ELRS lua script is the same as the version of ELRS that you want to use. But better to save yourself the need to bind and just user a bind phrase.
Hi I connect my R24D to Matek CRSF to PWM converter
The R24D has a solid red LED but the Converter blink blue
It seems it already connect with my remote since it has network icon and disappear when I disconect the Receiver
But I have a problem. The Servo didn't move even though I toggle the remote
*Previously I already binded the RX and TX. I used F405Wing and installed INAV. But the FC is burnt that's why I use PWM converter
Are you now trying to fly without the flight controller? The FC won't be able to work via the PWM outputs on your receiver.
@@spinlaunchglide hi I am sorry for miss understanding
I made detail video of it th-cam.com/video/jE3IPa6SEag/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pZDLwVukfi4yJ6pj
Hi I sent you my remote video
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Hopefully anyone can help me to solve it
@@spinlaunchglide
Hi i made this video about my remote
Hopefully anyone can help
th-cam.com/video/jE3IPa6SEag/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DGXAaZyTwpPY9CVd
@@spinlaunchglide
ok I bricked my pwm adapter while updating to 2.6.0 it stopped about 3/4 of process. Any idea how to unbrick? thanks
Maybe you can post a photo of your wiring to the rcgroups thread you've just posted in?
@spinlaunchglide no wiring is fine. I need process if there is one
I have done this several times with no problem. Is there a process to unbrick? Thanks
So many people say this and yet still have the wiring wrong. I don't think this is the case since you progressed most of the way through the update. I'm happy to try to help, but posting a photo of the wiring is the starting point. This will also let us see the board and identify any other potential problems.
@@spinlaunchglide i saw your process on rcgroups : Process for 'unbricking' was sent to me by Matek support - and it worked fine:
1. connect USB-TTL to CRSF-PWM board
2. DO NOT plug USB to computer now
3. Open configurator, DO NOT click “connect”
4. Click "OpenFile" to load bin file
5. then connect USB-TTL module to computer to power on CRSF-PWM board.
6. LED on PWM board should be fast blinking.
7. When LED is fast blinking, select COM port, and click "Upgrade", DO NOT click “connect”
but it did not work.
thanks
Hey tried your process again and it worked....big thanks
Hi thanks for helping.
I updated the receiver to 3.1.2 via wifi with expresselrs configurator.
Now its conecterd to transmitter....but serov doesnt work....i dont have usb ttl..
And i didnt connect vbat yet....is there any solution ? Thanks
Did you also update your transmitter/module to 3.1.2? A few things to try:
- Test the servos on another receiver or servo tester
- Check that your radio is showing the expected servo movement on the 'output monitor'
- Check your soldering on the pwm output pins, look for solder brides or short circuits
But really you should get a usb ttl, they're cheap and you'll need it to update the PWM board and to help if you ever have problems flashing any of your ELRS equipment.
Ok.thanks....it worked ....i disabled model match on to off ...off to on ...
Do you have any idea why servos trouble and move by itself when i use this elrs receiver....the same servo doesn't move when i use it on radiolink receiver.
@@Rcfishingagadir does the problem improve if you connect fewer servos? If so, this could be a sign of the servos getting enough current. Also it's important not to change settings on the ELRS lua script while connected to the receiver. Try powering everything off, radio on first with the correct model and settings, then power your receiver. Which servos are they?
@@spinlaunchglide its a ds3218 20kg...i think it might have something to do with lua script config...as you said.
matek configurator does not work with win7