🇬🇷 Tiryns & Lerna (Myloi), Peloponnese Greece. Hercules and The Origins of Greek Mythology.
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- Tiryns and Lerna were Greek Mycenaean settlements close to Nafplio and about 90 minutes drive from Athens.
Tiryns is an Acropolis dating from 1600 BC and the supposed home of the mythical Hercules, or Heracles, Lerna is much older, having buildings dating from as early as 2700 Bc, and the legendary 'House of Tiles'.
Both are wrapped up in Greek mythology, and the origins of Greek Mythology, being associated with the 12 labours of Hercules, the Lernaean Hydra, Namean Lion and Arcadian Deer. Theseus was born in nearby Argos before founding Athens (and killing the Minotaur), Whilst Perseus, who was also from Argos slew the Medusa and founded Mycenae.
Perseus was also the grandfather of Hercules...
Dramatically effected by the eruption of Santorini in about 1620 Bc resulting in the destruction of the competing Minoan civilisation on the Island of Crete, both Tiryns and Lerna are integral to Mycenaean culture, the development of the 12 Greek Gods of Olympus and Greek and hence modern European culture.
Often overlooked they are incredibly important sites if interested in Mycenaean and Hellenic Greek History and amazing to visit, being only 10 minutes from Nafplio, and close to Mycenae, Corinth an Epidaurus.
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00:00 Introduction
00:30 Easy to get to from Athens
01:15 The Acropolis of Tiryns
02:36 Monumental Cyclopean Architecture
03:57 The Arkadiko Bridge, Mycenae and Nafplio
04:52 The Origins of Mythology, Hercules, Theseus, Perseus
09:14 Santorini and the Greek Gods.
10:53 Lots to Explore at Tiryns
11:45 The start of Greek and European Culture
12:52 Lerna (Myloi), Hercules, Hades and Perseus
14:05 The origins of Mycenae, The Tiled House in Myloi
15:50 Lerna in 2700 BC, Meet the ancestors of mythology
17:33 Why most people don't visit Tiryns
18:41 Wrap Up - บันเทิง
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Excellent As Always and Enjoyable
Thanks, as always, your comment is really appreciated.
Fantastic video!! Before the pandemic, I spent a week in Nafplion, rented a touring bike, and rode to Tiryns, Lerna, Mykines, and Archaia Nemea. I totally recommend it. One must see these ancient cities from their vantage points, to understand how close these ancient Greeks lived to each other.
Agree, I need to do Archaia Namea too, I will in May. Totally agree, it is only by visiting the sites you can understand the differences, similarities and Geography
I had been to Lerne last fall.
I love there.
You should give private tours, brilliant video!
Thanks Frank, always amazes me what surrounds us too
Thanks for the great explanation
Thank you for commenting, they are only my views but glad it made some sense.
I loved this. Visiting the region next week; sad that I won't be able to visit these sites, but will be thinking of this and looking in the general direction of Tiryns and thinking of the origins of Greek mythology from the tour bus! Thanks for sharing your passion and knowledge.
I hope you have a good trip, where are you visiting?
@@GreeceExplored based in Athens, so covering the key sites there, but visiting Meteora, Delphi, Hydra, and hopefully Mycenae. I’m also eyeing a day where I do ancient Corinth in the morning and Cape Sunio for sunset, but I’m holding off on booking as I want to keep a day free in case there are extra bits of Athens that I want to explore once I’m there. Feel free to make suggestions (obvious or obscure!)
Thanks Great Video !,,
Thank you, really appreciate your support!
Another great, much appreciated video, especially the tie-in with Greek mythology. Have passed by Tiryns many times on our way to Nafplio, and was always intrigued by this site. Had no idea about the local connection to the myths of Heracles and others. Will make sure to stop by next time. What makes Greece so special is how the physical joins with the metaphysical. A journey of the mind and spirit beyond the material vestiges of the past.
That is why I do these videos, selfishly because I am learning and it enables me to better understand and enjoy what is around us, and I find that now others offer me information in the comments to continue that learning!! The Mythological ideas really just formed from 2 years of making these vids, but I plan to touch on more mythology now. It is challenging to find a way to express it with relevance.
Another great video! Amazing how these sites are relatively anonymous, considering their historical importance, I guess there are just so many of them in Greece. Have driven by Lerna several times without any idea that it was even there, will definitely check it out when we're back in the summer.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed - I think there are loads out there which used to have huge importance and now are ignored, Myloi was a shock to me too, I only read up on it because of the Hydra connection, and I suspect I hardly touched the surface.
Your videos are the best dude. My wife and I are going to Greece later this year and staying a few days in Nafplio. Definitely adding Tiryns to the itinerary
You will have a fab time, Nafplio is fantastic and a great base for getting out and exploring.
I'll be in Argos on the 21 July visiting family there. I'm in Australia and I love your passion for this area, I've always said it was underrated. Great video love your channel.
Have a trek up to Larissa Castle, it was originally a mycenaean acropolis, and has Hellenic walls incorporated into the byzantine ones. The roman theatre and Agora is under-rated too.
@@GreeceExplored I will, I did that back in 1979 , I wish I could live in Greece as you do.
@@peterharpas5877 Have a good visit, weather is great at the moment, will be a bit hotter then!!
@@GreeceExplored not a problem I love the heat of Greece. God bless you for your replies. All the best to you and your family.
Brilliant 👍
Appreciated. thanks.
WOW!!! Excellent video! Best video on Tiryns and Mycenae on youtube. I've watched most as I've been obsessed with Greek myths and history since age 9. Thanks for the academic historical context and your interpretation of the myths in their political historical context. No one else has done that. I plan to visit Tiryns, Pylos, Mycenae, Delphi, Vergina, Pella. Please do a video on Pylos, Iolcus and Dendra. Thanks for focusing on Lerna. Problem is, I do not drive. Will I still be able to visit Denfdera, Tiryns, Lerna, Iolcus, Pylos? I enjoy your enthusiasm.
Thank you, really appreciate the comment, as you are obviously an enthusiast. I hope to do more, as I live in Arcadia and am lucky enough to travel around the Peloponnese frequently making videos on historical sites, as you may see from my Greek playlist. I will go back to Pylos, I haven't yet done The Palace of Nestor, and I want to do more on the Mycenaean civilisation, I find it more interesting than even the Hellenic times but of course the 2 are heavily related, with one influencing the other dramatically. I will do more as my learning and thoughts develop, local Geography and visiting, seeing things helps a lot. Being honest, I think to get around those sites without a car will be very challenging. there are tours of course, but you really need your own transport, even a bicycle would help. I would try to avoid the summer though, these sites are very exposed and the heat is brutal, the best time is March / April, or late September / October. I will look at your list and see what I can cover.
@@GreeceExplored Thanks for your helpful reply. Rome2Rio claims I can take a bus to Pylos, Dendra and Iolcus. Do you know if that really is the case? The Odyssey's depiction of Nestor's Pylos and the fact that they discovered clay tablets there hardened by fire relating how invaders' ships were imminent, makes it a must. Dendra is also a must because of Jason, while Dendra has that full body bronze armour. I visited Mycenae as a 13 y.o, but now that I'm 56 I need to revisit it.. If not bus, perhaps they've got Blah Blah or Rideshare? Anyway, just in case you missed this, here's a genetic study carried out in 2017 by Harvard, Max Plank Institute and uni of Tubingen. It shows that the Mycenaens and Minoans shared Neolithic Anatolian farmer ancestry (Pelasgians?), Caucasus hunter ancestry, with the Mycenaeans having some Indo-European steppe ancestry, which the Minoans did not have. So Mary Renault's But from the Sea and King must die were spot on. www.nature.com/articles/nature23310
@@GreeceExplored PS. If you aren't able to access the Nature article, I have access to it via my uni and could send it to you. Cheers.
@@taybak8446 Thank you, I will have a read over the weekend, you have got me thinking about other videos. I can't advise on the local busses. I suspect they will be few and very far between. I suggest without a car you may be best getting the Ktel bus to Argos or Nafplio, and then using taxis from there. The good thing is that Mycenae, Dendra, Midea, Et al are all pretty close to each other, Tiryns is only 3km outside Nafplio. you could also connsider a short hike on the Mycenaean Road if you fancied, behind Mycenae. I have a video on that I will publish later in May. Pylos is further afield, and again Ktel busses will take you down there. I had read that many of the female Greek gods probably originated from adaptions of the Indian Gods, and transferred via Indo-European migrations, and was perhaps why the female gods were venerated over the male counterparts prior to the eruption of Santorini, but there are so many opinions of course.
@@GreeceExplored Thanks for the Ktel bus info. I'll bear that in mind. It is said that Dionysus traveled to India before returning to Greece, so perhaps there's truth to the idea that many Greek religious mystery cults were imported from there. And of course, there's Plato's idea on the transmigration of souls. Also, the Near Eastern, but Indo-European Mittani seem to share the same gods as the Vedics. Years ago I corresponded with a Russian archaeology professor Kuznetsov from uni of Volgograd who excavated Bronze Age Indo-European Yamnaya kurgans in Samara, Russia. He theorised that these pastoralists eventually migrated to India via central Asia. His claims have been vindicated by recent genetic studies. It's also claimed by some that the Copper Age Catacomb culture, which is a subset of the Yamnaya from the Pontic Steppe eventually migrated to Greece and became the Mycenaeans. I recall that David Anthony discussed it in his The horse, the wheel and language. I've actually been strongly considering staying 2 nights at Mycenae just to explore the surrounding area, so I'd deffo love to see your video about the Mycenaean road. Also, thinking about spending 2 nights at Delphi to explore the nymphs' cave and trails there. www.amazon.com/Horse-Wheel-Language-Bronze-Age-Eurasian-ebook/dp/B003TSEL1Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3KTZVWV5A7KYS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.m8l0VQAqY7XZosaF_MOpjpgXAdiOAShAo0aMLrAuiBPTu4K5i9KQ7WG6D7c1Qdaq.R0oMFRFGf_3TXvvdj6GBhf-goQJoJVxR6HbvbONhvqo&dib_tag=se&keywords=david+anthony+the+horse+the+wheel+and+language&qid=1714827676&sprefix=David+ant%2Caps%2C595&sr=8-1
There is a little known Mycenean tholos tomb in the base of the large hill just 1000 metres east from Tiryns.
The hill with the church on top.
Similar to those tholos tombs at Mycenae, hidden behind the Olive groves, at 37.596480, 22.812540.
Do you know, I thought about including it, but may do a video covering lesser known Mycenaean sites, such as the local dam, the tomb etc. I have just completed a video on the 4 Mycenaean bridges and the Mycenaean Road but not posting that for a couple of weeks yet.
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Please also visit the Temple of Heraion and the Mycenean rock tombs nearby,
also the Eliniko Mycenean Pyramid near Argos. 😀
THe Alkyonic Lake - Entrance to the Hades - is a little bit nearer to the sea - when you come from the two holy springs - today the waterpump factories
This is the spring by the Water pump building, perhaps 50m from the sea.
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