RE had a real sales success with both the 411 and 450 Himalayan, not to mention their retro models and I think the Guerilla may appeal to an even larger market. Anything that brings more riders into biking is a good thing in my book.
The hype is worth it , in general RE is let everyone access 2 wheels with stylish designs at very affordable prices , other manufacturers need to take note. Not criticising but I don't think anyone has ever said I wish my bike had a screen I could play TH-cam on
"Cheap" is not the word I would use. Words have meaning and "cheap" denotes crappy technology, manufacturing and quality of materials. "Affordable" better sets the tone that needs to be stated. It is affordable. It is worthy of purchase because the quality and value built into the bike is more than the sum of its On The Road cost. Well done look at a affordable, real world useful motorbike. I recall many years back when some magazine typists opined that "form should follow function" and that is possible whilst creating something worthy of not just a second look but also of owning. Style is back in style. This bike could be said to be the return to sanity and the Standard motorbike. Standard. Not "naked". I know I would never lay claim to riding a "naked" motorbike, but a standard? Yup. And this model sets the standard for what is best described as an "all 'rounder". Well done, Royal Enfield. Thank you for another excellent review in the real world in which we all ride. SS in commiefornia, USA.
@@marksimpson5218 In a life time spanning across eight decades now my purchases are kept on average for 10+ years. That is me. I was raised to appreciate what I have, to take care of it so that it serves me well. Perhaps you are different? Your choice but when you trade in a $25,000 BMW, Harley or Honda two years into your ownership you will loose far more than 2 or 3 grand. But you can console yourself knowing that somewhere someone is enjoying their life's choices regardless of what they paid. Which is more preferable? To learn from one's errors or to be taught a lesson from them. I'd wager the latter for you? All the best. SS in commiefornia, USA.
It's a great bike! Just traded my Hntr 350 in for one 2 days ago. If I had the room, I'd have kept the Hntr, because it's better than the Guerrilla in some areas but then it's a completely different animal. The Guerrilla, on the other hand, is certainly more exciting than the Hntr and handles really well with good brakes, as you pointed out. After a quick read of the manual, the functions on the screen are really quite intuative with the joystick and buttons. I'm looking forward to opening it up a bit after it's first service and, yes, that fuel filler cap thing is a bit annoying 😁At the end of the day, other bikes in this category are probably just as good but this is the only one that appealed to me, like the Hntr did. Well done Royal Enfield!!!👏👍👍
I have been riding a Hunter last two yrs n while riding with some bigger bikes I was aspiring for some more power. The moment I saw and rode the Guerrilla, I knew it was my upgrade and hence booked one yesterday. I have done long distances with Hunter and am sure Guerrilla will take me further, faster and with more fun. Can’t wait for the delivery anymore !
I've gone the other way. I rode the guerrilla but put my deposit down for a hunter 350... but I've got a 600 too, so I'll ride that if I want a 'fast' day... for chilling out I prefer the 350....
The Goldstar will feel like a big heavy Hunter with it's thump and you won't be as inclined to throw it into the bends as you will with the Guerrilla. Both are lovely bikes and you wont go wrong with either...
I do rate this one Sean have to say only threw my leg over one but for the money it's pretty darned good I'd say for example I've just traded to a T120 and no center stand as standard no rad guard as standard . Didn't take the offer of a test as I would want to add it to my garage 😂 .I do believe this is a serious challenger to the Triumph speed 400 and could knock it off the top bike in class next year imo . Good one 👌👍
Thank you Crumbly for this comment. I'll be interested to see how many sales this takes from the Speed400, it's cheaper and a bit nicer in my opinion. Congratulations on your new T120!
Thank you Bryan, I am coming to regard the BSA as my future channel bike for many years now. Of course like the next man I get tempted by new metal particularly Royal Enfield like the Classic and Bear 650 bikes but the BSA will probably stay with me now. I really really like it...
Just bought one, I have three RE’s, Hunter, Scram and Interceptor,love them all but I’ve sold the Scram to get the GRR. Thrilled at the prospect of picking the new bike up but……trying to get it insured, nightmare. Apparently RE haven’t yet got it registered with ABI yet which means none of the insurers currently have it on their ‘system’ leading to no quote as computer says no! Currently paying about £150 for multi bike cover for all three of my current bikes. Got a quote from a leading bike insurance broker for just the GRR at £590 as it is currently deemed to be a ‘specialist bike’ in the absence of an ABI number. I’ve been told it should have an ABI number come October in which event it will be open to quotes from multiple bike insurers at a far more realistic price. But until then I’m rather stuffed as far as insurance is concerned. Suspect I will be forced to accept the silly price quoted but will look to cancel the policy once it is ABI registered and open to market competition. Just something to consider for prospective owners in the meantime. Great review as always
Thank you Martin for the comment and congratulations for the new bike, I have a feeling these will be great. I think it was good of you to share your experience with insurance to help others. Thanks!
As an update I received an insurance quote for the GRR from Principal Insurance with a premium of £275. The contact at Principal was Ricky and the insurer was Aviva. Hope this might help anyone else who is struggling to insure their GRR🤞
A very honest review. Thanks for taking your time Sean. You & Suzie have a beautiful day! Prayers sent upward for Suzie's health. Cheers!! Illinois, USA
Hi really enjoyed this no nonsense very objective review of what looks like being a very popular bike. I'm thinking of buying one and you've really done good job of being objective without gushing over the brand like I've seen on other reviews. Also no daft music, graphics and silly chat that I don't need to watch at the start of your video. I have subscribed to your channel which is rare for me. So thank you. A bloke who loves bikes talking about bikes properly
i kinda knew you would like that bike ;;; even though i am not in the market for one -after watching a few reviews i could tell this is better than the himo , and in my opinion better quality than the triumph 400 ,,,
I knew I'd like it too Simon 🤣. I think it's better than the Triumph but can't put my finger on why, will be interesting if Speed 400 owners trade in for this...?
Awesome 👌 videos and information I'm 67 my ride is a Honda 23 Rebel 1100T DCT definitely on my number 1 list when I retire in a year to join my Honda from California keep the videos coming!
Another great review. I wonder if Royal Enfield’s marketing strategy for the Guerrilla and Shotgun targeting a younger audience might be costing sales to the older riders looking at the bikes. I am not interested in buying the Guerrilla, but if I were I’d like a few more subdued color schemes. The base grey bike is the only one I wouldn’t feel too flashy on. The same applies to the Shotgun colors. My wife often rides with me, and my Interceptor is just not great for a passenger. I might consider the Shotgun, but not in the current colors. I understand trying to appeal to a younger buyer, but they need to consider aging riders as well. Keep checking those indicators…
It's okay to wait a while. There is time to decide and winter is coming making the wait all the more tolerable. Excepting those rare days of a warm winter's day, eh my friend? 🙂 SS in commiefornia, USA.
Thanks Alvin for the comment and the comment on the colours. I agree RE have to walk a fine line keeping the 'classic' feeling colours and mixing in some fresh hues.
Had a blast on one last week, need a longer one to decide, apperently doing a 450 scrambler version at some point although i think this is more scrambler than roadster on looks other than 17 inch rims.
I managed to test ride one of these today whilst my Meteor was having its MOT at Manhattan Motorcycles Sheffield (brilliant little dealership by the way). It was great fun and plenty powerful enough for the Peak District roads!. Strangely you mention the mode button as being pointless without actually trying it. I would say it's a well considered option and very useful. In "eco" mode the throttle response was completely tamed and made negotiating Sheffields busy city roads an absolute breeze. On open roads the "performance" mode dramatically quickens up throttle and makes the bike feel significantly more lively and powerful....it's genius! I love my Meteor and don't think I could trade it for a Guerilla but I certainly think it could live alongside it in the garage! All I've got to do is persuade the wife this is a more urgent purchase than a new sofa!
Thanks for the update on that button, I was in a bit of a rush that day and wasn't sure how it all worked. I wouldn't trade my bike for a Guerrilla to be honest, I would prefer a Meteor as it's got that magic engine...
I think you'll find one of the mode settings gives a softer throttle response, if it's the same as the Himalayan. The steering head angle is much steeper than other REs. A bit twitchy when loaded up in a cross wind maybe?
Perhaps, and a little revvy. Would make you throw it into the bends all the time, not so much of a relaxed ride as other RE bikes. On the flip side huge fun...
Morning Sean. I am not going to go into fine detail about this review, other than that I disagree with where you said about where it should be ridden. As you have no doubt seen my thoughts, for me, although obviously it will carve up city traffic with ease, the Guerrilla is outstanding on flowing A roads and twistie B road. It’s a proper hark back to the 80’s, where you have to ride it, as opposed to it doing everything for you. The throttle response is just something to get used to, it took me by surprise when I initially went up the road, but within 100 yards I was fine with it. Brilliant bike 👍
Sean I love the look of that machine I’ve watched a few and you’ve done a brilliant job of this✊ Must have a go but I’ve seen the new Classic 350 colours and new specs and love them too! Top Job Sean Always a pleasure to watch you’re reviews absolutely 😊😊 Phil
Thank you Phil that's very kind and much appreciated. In reflection I wouldn't trade in my Goldie for this as it makes you a bit of a hooligan with the revs, you want to tip in and accelerate out of bends. The BSA in contrast is much more of a relaxed ride. Thanks for the heads up about the new Classic 350 colours, I'll check them out. Again really appreciate the support and wish you super week! Cheers, Sean
I can’t decide between the Svartpilen 401, the scrambler 400x, and the guerilla 450. Can you please help me decide?? Or should I wait for the Brixton crossfire 500x releasing in October in India??
I would choose in this order: 1. RE Guerrilla 450 - many accessories, good resale, high quality 2. Triumph Speed 400 - Established brand, nice model but a few reliability issues 3. Husky 401 - would avoid in case KTM dumps the brand, financial difficulties 3. Brixton Crossfire 500 - Unknown to us here in the UK...
Looking at final shots did you notice the different size in the radiator to your 650? 40 bhp for me is the minimum and will probably mean a lot of the Meteors and Hunters will come onto the market.
Prolly for the higher compression of bsa and how squared both engines r. Also the company that owns BSA has similar model bikes as Jawa bikes in india so tried and tested radiator or cost saving.
I did as it happens Lumpy, I noticed the G450 rad is rectangular and located high up on the downtube, almost by the steering stem. The BSA item is a lot more square and physically bigger. I think I and many others are now over the BSA GS650 radiator drama, that seemed to be an issue with the owners of original GS bikes coming to terms with the brands revival... Thanks!
Great review Sean, but I think you’re having too much fun 😁, which is exactly what this bike seems to be designed for. RE apparently has put together another winning combination of style, price and quality build. The only thing missing for me is what I always look for with Royal Enfield, and that is classic styling which is just my personal preference. Your ride showed this bike to be a well mannered, fun bike with more than enough power . Cheers and thanks for the video, Dan ✌️🏍🇨🇦
Hi Dan, I also usually go for the classic styling on the RE bikes, but something about this just drew me in. Perhaps it is the 80's paint jobs feels nostalgic for me... I'm not sure but as you say it felt like incredible fun! I hope you get a few last riding days in before the winter comes to Canada. It's already cooled right down here!! Cheers, Sean
I rather like this bike. My 390 Duke is 23 kg lighter, although the RE's centre stand much weigh a fair bit. I could be interested in the Guerrilla, but it will have to prove itself in terms of reliability. I don't like the purple on this paint scheme. I do like the offet dash and filler cap and the wide bars, fork gaitors and the overall looks and stance. It looks better than the Triumph. Can you get soft side bags for the Guerrilla?
What do you feel about the radiator placement and orientation, the speed 400 is tidier and I like the gold forks this looks like the forks are workmanlike. Like the chain opposite side to exhaust & calliper with the centre stand making chain maint easy. Would like twin clocks or not offset TFT good though. Like any human designed machine it's got some idiosyncrasies and personally I like longer mud guards but would prefer a flatter seat. I don't think it's Himmy or Goerilla it's vs Speed 400 is the direct competitor. Good news if you are after a cheap 350 they will get chopped in was thinking of cb125f for an eco commuter but a cheap Hunter might do nicely.
Well I'm coming from a BSA Goldstar radiator which was one of the biggest on the new wave of water cooled classic bikes so for me both the G450 and Speed 400 have small neat rads. The G450 rad is also high up its away from road grit and dirt which has got to be a plus. I would probably have this bike without the fancy TFT, I get confused with all the functions TBH. I think prices of Hunters and Scrams are now sub £2k at trade in, which means you'll buy a 2000mile year old bike from a dealer at £2.8 ish... good value for sure.
Picked up my Guerilla 450 last weekend, swapped my Classic 350 and Yamaha Scoot for it, have done 200 miles on it since Sunday. Have kept my 350 Meteor as I still need a 350 J series bike in the fold. So far the Guerilla has been great, very pkeased with it and such a bargain price tag.🙂👍
Thanks for sharing that Jonathon, I didnt know you were in the market for a 450 bike. I believed for some reason that you were into the classic looking RE range, ha! Well learn something new and glad you've picked one up. Heck of a lot of bike for the money.
I was very interested in the guerrilla so test rode one a couple of weeks ago. I wanted a second bike to ride everyday instead of using my 600 all the time, but, although I loved the guerrilla and found it the most comfortable bike I've ever sat on, I didn't like the way the engine was egging me on all the time. My 600 makes me ride faster than I should so I want a relaxing ride. The guerrilla didn't like riding relaxed. It didn't like being ridden lazily. Was also shouting a bit loudly for an old duffer like me. I don't think I'm their market....
Thanks for the comment Rob, I also ride a 600cc sportbike and I know exactly what you mean. My BSA Goldstar is very much a plodder and doesn't egg you on to tip into bends...
The nice thing about adjustable suspension on sportier bikes is that you can dial out a lot of the firmness for when you're going up & down shit roads, then dial it back in before you go blasting away on track. For a bike like this though, you only really need rear pre-load to adjust to your mass.
Great video thanks Sean and Suzie. I am torn between the RE Guerilla 450 and the RE Himalayan 450. Although you say the RE Guerilla is your favourite out of the two there is something inside me that feels the RE Himalayan would be a better bike to own for day to day riding and for touring. 😀
For touring you would be much better off with the Himalayan. The Guerilla is quite skittish in steering and throttle response, very similar to the Speed 400 in that regard. Thanks 👍
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thanks for your response. The only other small capacity bike I have seen that I quite like is the Benelli Leoncino 500 range. What are your thoughts on this bike?
@williamlylecameron9345 honestly not great, I've not ridden it but they don't sell and they are an Italian brand made in China which doesn't draw people in. At least CF and Voge are rising stars of Chinese brands with a bit of a tail wind at present. If I rode one perhaps I'd change my mind...
I test rode a Guerrilla on Monday, great bike with lovely handling and good brakes and surprisingly quick. The engine doesn’t like to pull from lower revs in higher gears, you need to go down the box a lot more than you would on a 411 or a 350. I though it was a bit of a hooligan bike as it did entice you to wring its neck quite a bit, it reminded me a bit of a Honda Hornet 600 I had about 20 years ago only milder ( to be fair the Hornet was lighter with twice the horse power and much better brakes, a real hooligan machine) . It’s a fun bike that makes you grin, but will encourage you to ride it in a more spirited manor. I liked it a lot but I’m going with a Kawasaki Eliminator 500se which is lighter with a little bit more power and a lot more torque, it won’t handle the twisties as well as the Guerrilla as it has less ground clearance but it will give slightly better performance and a more relaxed ride. It’s more expensive but Kawasaki are giving a £500 deposit contribution and on PCP they are the same monthly payment. If you want more sporty there’s always the Z500 or the Ninja 500.
when it comes to being a fanboy of RE or Triumph, in this case Triumph means Bajaj/Triumph. But when choosing between the Shotgun 650 and the Speed Twin 900, I choose the Shotgun because it's appearance and riding position are better for me. But, the real question is, which do you pick, the Shotgun or the Guerrilla? Both offer comfortable riding postures, coupled with above average handling. The Shotgun certainly looks more wow, but the GRR450 is more practical, and much lighter. Could I please know your opinion, of what you think of the rear suspension for the GRR compared to the Shotgun. For our rough roads in northern Thailand, I would like more suspension travel from the GRR, do you know if RE will be releasing a Scram 450? I'm a new subscriber and mindfullness practitioner, your style of video production is very useful, Thanks!
Great reviews, had my fingers burnt two years ago with a brand new Himmie, had shocking after sales, went on for months and months, which ended up with me just giving up, buying a CRF250 Rally and selling the Himmie, however I am still strangely drawn to the Enfield range. Thank you for your brilliant reviews, carry on the good work, I’m still unsure I would ever buy a brand new one again though…but who knows, perhaps they have got their act together.
Hi Paul, thank you for your kind comment, I'm also strangely drawn to everything RE, I'd probably have most of their bikes. Like you I bought a new Royal Enfield and also a new Voge, lost money on both of course which has made me now vow to only buy near new from now on...
Im about to buy a scram 411 and I am debating holding off for the Guerilla. I would just like to maybe but some off road tyres on and give it a more scramble look.
I have the same indicator ocd….i thought it was just me 😂. Have test ridden the same bike and loved it. I am looking for an easy going bike and my only concern with the guerrilla is that it brought out my wilder side, it wants to be thrashed and chucked into corners as faster as you dare all the time.
We should form a group Steve, there was someone else on here who does it too 😂😂. Regarding the Guerilla it would make you a little bit of a hooligan, certainly compared to the BSA which is more of a plodder... cheers, Sean
Really brilliant bike. I wish it was a 500cc or a 650cc. Unless Honda comes up with a really nice retro CB500 sort of bike, I will most probably be getting this as my fun go-to-cafe sort of bike alongside my Honda ADV350. Another choice could be a RE Classic 650. The real retro style color scheme. But not sure yet.
Great review. Has this bike done more miles than the 450 Himalayan you tested? If so, the engine on this one might have loosened-up more and will have less vibrations -- just a thought. EDIT: I disagree about economy mode being pointless -- what if you are running low on fuel and need to make it to the next petrol station?
I’m thinking of a Himalayan a 2020 as a winter friend.Looked at these a but you getting into Honda 500x territory. What’s the point.Maybe I’m missing it. Nice content thankyou👍
in the 70s the first thing me and my friends did was pop rivet a mudflap on the front mudguard if there wasnt one' Ive done it for years models permitting. 40bhp. lol - good for going to the shops...not my thing. I like to get away from traffic if required. Its a great starter bike - hard to stall and be in the wrong gear with the single cylinder. Your BSA however - thing of beauty - i get it.
so you can't change the riding mode while riding?? so when you go into slow moving traffic and you want the lower revving engine you have to stop turn the bike off then restart to go into ECO.. that can't be right.
Liked the video, I had a ride on one 2 weeks ago, great bike, had a test ride on the speed 400 on Saturday, nice bike, but found the throttle very snatchy at low revs, think I'll be going for a Guerrilla, but having trouble getting sn insurance quote, not many companies recognise it yet 😮
Yes things haven't been going so smoothly for RE since they took over the distribution from MotoGB. They needed to update the MIB motor insurers bureau with the G450 details to allow it to be insured, looks like someone forgot...
Really good video Shaun, nice bike much better than the Triumph in my opinion and its build quality looks top draw as well. Royal Enfield have really done a great job and the price is also spot on.
Nice ride Sean loving the gorilla or however you say it, sounds as much fun as the shotgun for a lot less, love vimto but prefer Dr Pepper lol I love rubber indicator stalks don’t snap in a drop just fold 😊 I need to make up my mind do I jump or just keep racking up the km on the classic Sarah says she loves the classic but she doesn’t like the inability to just twist the gas and get out of a crowd or out of trouble which she has been used to doing on the Ducatis and Buells ktm etc, the gorilla is RE 690 duke ….. Pete 🇫🇷
Dr Pepper has a weird taste Pete 😂😂. I prefer Vimto when you can get it. Good point about the rubber indicator stalks, I'll mention that next time I see them on a bike, good tip! I'd probably have the Guerilla (is that double RR and Double LL?🤣) over the shotgun, it's cheaper but around £2k and just lighter and fun... cheers, Sean
Great review. Not sure its fair to compare it to the Himi 452. They are very different bikes with different purposes. It strikes me the guerrilla is a street bike for urban riding. Having ridden both, the gearing and ( i think) the fueling is very different.
Nice looking bike. Not a fan of the offset TFT. Even looking at it from the front it looks weird being offset from the headlight. But yeah, looks like a great city bike.
Great review..Ive had a test ride and thought it was excellent fun. A question...your BSA is now £4999 new in highland green. The BSA vs RE Guerrilla? Two singles, different style...what do you think?
BSA is a very much more relaxed ride, longer wheelbase, rake, swing arm, 18inch front, more torque, less shifting etc etc. The Guerilla wants you to chuck it into bends, I'm sticking with my BSA 😀😃
Thanks Sean...I like the BSA, its just the centre stand issue and lack of dealers that bothers me...but its a classier bike and the one I'd be more likely to look back at I think
Well I was considering a new Himalayan to sit next to my Hunter but now I'm thinking just how often will I go off road here in Australia. Waiting for the Guerrilla to hit our dealers here. Thanks!
Nice video Sean. Trying to decide between the Guerrilla or the Goldstar. What's putting me off the BSA is that a few of the reviews I've seen on it seems to show either discolouration or a rust spot on the exhaust about 6-8" behind the footpeg.
Hi Gary, now that is a difficult one. Guerrilla has less weight, more nimble, the whole RE apparatus backing it up. It's probably one of these heart says Goldstar and head says Guerrilla situations. If something goes awry with my bike I'd be very tempted to move onto one of these REs...
Just remember what Uncle Stu has said regarding reviewing new demo bikes. If it's good now, in 2k miles it's going to be even better once the engine has loosened up a bit. Fine by me as I'd never buy a brand new one, but, this time next year Rodney... 😅
This was on 980km Lee, it was the press bike ridden by the big TH-camrs and Journos in Spain at the launch apparently... must of had a few all day rides. In 12 months these might be available for £4k with 1000miles on them... very tempting 😀😀
Wished you would have taken the Gorilla down some poor B roads and unclassified roads as I found the suspension rough especially the rear, the roads your on look more suitable and will make the bike feel good in comparison. Sorry forgot great vlog.
Hi John, there was some bumps and potholes but overall yes a smooth stretch. Suzie and I went out again yesterday on a different road which is a bit more uneven. That video is in the works... thanks for the comment.
Do you get your RE test bikes from Moto GB, Sean? I notice that they are also the UK agents for another Indian brand, Hero motorcycles. I think they may be new to the UK market but I'd be interested to see you do a review of their Maverick 440. It seems to be a direct competitor to the Guerilla - even the tank has a similar design with the prominent 'wings'.
Hero is quite popular here although there small displacement commuters are sold the most but I guess seeing RE do well outside India, some of the other companies have started to make their bikes available in global markets.
@@luddite6239 yes both hero and Bajaj quite literally forced the Chinese bikes out of African market, thereby ending their Monopoly there. But European buyers are quite different, also the purpose is different too, so it should be interesting to see how these companies approach the market in Europe. TVS Is another company that's done quite well and plans to go global. They have a nice 180, 300 cc engine.
Great review yet again Sean. I visited the new Revolutions dealership in Perth. And got to sit on one. Too small for Two Wheel Willie. Too tall a seat height for Wee Mark! I was on the very tip of my tip toes.😢😢😢 I really like the look of this one. So, until there is a lowering link and seat. I will have to pass. I noticed that it’s supposed to have a slightly lower seat height over the 400 Triumph. But for me sitting on both, I found them to identical in height. (For me) So I just await and see if, a lowering link and seat comes available.
Thanks Mark for the comment. If this bike ends up being really popular I think it will have a lot of aftermarket support and hopefully the lowering link...
I visited my local dealer to look at the Himalayan which I found difficult to move off the side stand seemed heavier than my Honda cb500x. I liked the shotgun but the graphics didn’t gel with me. Looked at the cf moto 450 but the salesman said would be much different to my Honda but I discounted this comment has the dealer would make more money on the shotgun as higher price.i am not confident of the reliability of cf moto shame as the bike looked great. This 450 road version would probably suit me better as lighter than an adventure style bike. Would this 450 be much less power than my Honda cb500x ?
Hi Malcolm, it would be about the same tbh, the CB500x is 200kg more or less and 47hp from 471cc, the RE Guerrilla is 184kg with 40hp from 452cc. You'd probably have a higher torque figure on the Enfield but I'd have to check...
I too have a Hunter. I vowed I would never get rid of it, until this came out! Curse you RE and your expertly pitched product development. One thing I’d be interested in is what mpg is this fine bike getting? I also am a compulsive indicator canceller, after I failed my bike test for the first time after I left my indicators on 😡
Oh, you reminded me to complain about CEAT tyres! Squared off super fast on my Himalayan (by 3k miles) and had dry rot on the side walls after like 6 months. Awful! Yes I check my tyres are at manufacturer specified pressure regularly and no I don't sit and do burnouts or park my bike in acid.
Unfortunately Louis they wont be addressed, we don't do serious reviews with facts and figures it's all opinion pieces on this channel. Perhaps go and watch a proper bike review channel or read from the Royal Enfield spec sheet downloadable from the website.
What happened to the Vimto?, Seen the bike at Midwest is does look cool, But then I saw on you tube the new Voge 900, that looks super , are you going to test one soon? at £8999 that is serious value for money.
I have had a chat with the importer for Voge, they are awaiting a delivery of these bikes any day now... it's a bit big and powerful for me but I'll try it anyway
Not in this country, you can be prosecuted based on online videos. I had the police send a letter to my house for riding a motorcycle during covid. I think somebody reported me. All my fast riding is on track now...
Great looking bike...but...I am no fan of modern exhausts. I really like an exhaust to look like the guns on a WW2 destroyer! And...yet again...offset dials! WHY?
don't blink - or you will miss 2 wheeled willies current bike -- it's a keeper , ha ha ,, .... now i get the the vimto click bait style intro ,, brill ;;
When I first saw it on display I was on the fence about the concept and colour scheme but then realised that they wanted to make it different from everyone else and individually speaks up here lots of people have said they don’t mind it. I have a Harley Iron 883 2017 as my main and a CF Moto 450MT as my 2nd Adventure touring bike. Thanks for the review
I can't say I've noticed any undue praise in the reviews for this bike. The opinions do seem positive, but not overly so. When I owned an RE, I did feel that Triumphs were always hyped up, then I bought one and suddenly felt that all the other modern retros were getting all the kudos. Maybe - and please don't take this the wrong way - your ownership of the BSA has heightened your awareness of compliments for the competition? We are tribal creatures, after all! By the way, that colour scheme is horrendous 😂 give me the Brava Blue all day long! 😁
Who knows Ben, I could be open to bias. The BSA does have loyal owners but isn't that well liked by TH-camrs, most seem to spend the time documenting the problems with the Goldstar. I'm very tribal about Royal Enfield as well, which is really my disappointment when they get on this hype marketing agenda that reminds me more of a BMW GS1300 launch than an affordable little single type bike. When I watched the launch reviews of this bike, I was blown away by how positive they were but I've not watched that many dealership test ride type reviews, perhaps they are more balanced. Anyway good comment, thank you 😊
Even though this bike is from india, we do not have the roads that you are seemingly enjoying there. So in Indian city roads I would not recommend this bike (too heavy) I'd rather buy a KTM
BIKES OUT OF INDIA Try getting service and technical service information out of India, they are a joke, for a start most reviews in Hindi, as I said , jokers. I have a Suzuki AX100 and a VSTROM 250 SX I'm sure I have room to speak.
RE had a real sales success with both the 411 and 450 Himalayan, not to mention their retro models and I think the Guerilla may appeal to an even larger market. Anything that brings more riders into biking is a good thing in my book.
I agree luddite, really hope the Guerrilla does well... it deserves to at sub £5k
Def on my shortlist
The hype is worth it , in general RE is let everyone access 2 wheels with stylish designs at very affordable prices , other manufacturers need to take note. Not criticising but I don't think anyone has ever said I wish my bike had a screen I could play TH-cam on
Agree about RE, the screen thing yes it's a gimmick for the young kids but that's the bikes target market...
"Cheap" is not the word I would use. Words have meaning and "cheap" denotes crappy technology, manufacturing and quality of materials.
"Affordable" better sets the tone that needs to be stated. It is affordable. It is worthy of purchase because the quality and value built into the bike is more than the sum of its On The Road cost. Well done look at a affordable, real world useful motorbike. I recall many years back when some magazine typists opined that "form should follow function" and that is possible whilst creating something worthy of not just a second look but also of owning.
Style is back in style. This bike could be said to be the return to sanity and the Standard motorbike. Standard. Not "naked". I know I would never lay claim to riding a "naked" motorbike, but a standard? Yup. And this model sets the standard for what is best described as an "all 'rounder". Well done, Royal Enfield.
Thank you for another excellent review in the real world in which we all ride.
SS in commiefornia, USA.
Well said.
I think "value for money" definitely applies to the RE range.
It will be cheap, when the dealer offers you 2k for it after one year of ownership. You will call him a cheap skate.
@@marksimpson5218 In a life time spanning across eight decades now my purchases are kept on average for 10+ years. That is me. I was raised to appreciate what I have, to take care of it so that it serves me well.
Perhaps you are different? Your choice but when you trade in a $25,000 BMW, Harley or Honda two years into your ownership you will loose far more than 2 or 3 grand. But you can console yourself knowing that somewhere someone is enjoying their life's choices regardless of what they paid.
Which is more preferable? To learn from one's errors or to be taught a lesson from them. I'd wager the latter for you?
All the best.
SS in commiefornia, USA.
@@simonchilli2088 Thank you for the kind words.
SS in commiefornia, USA.
It's a great bike! Just traded my Hntr 350 in for one 2 days ago. If I had the room, I'd have kept the Hntr, because it's better than the Guerrilla in some areas but then it's a completely different animal. The Guerrilla, on the other hand, is certainly more exciting than the Hntr and handles really well with good brakes, as you pointed out. After a quick read of the manual, the functions on the screen are really quite intuative with the joystick and buttons. I'm looking forward to opening it up a bit after it's first service and, yes, that fuel filler cap thing is a bit annoying 😁At the end of the day, other bikes in this category are probably just as good but this is the only one that appealed to me, like the Hntr did. Well done Royal Enfield!!!👏👍👍
i am not selling my hunter, instead buying one more goldstar❤
I have been riding a Hunter last two yrs n while riding with some bigger bikes I was aspiring for some more power. The moment I saw and rode the Guerrilla, I knew it was my upgrade and hence booked one yesterday. I have done long distances with Hunter and am sure Guerrilla will take me further, faster and with more fun. Can’t wait for the delivery anymore !
@@alfa_romeo0701 i felt the same for goldstar as i like more thump that guerilla is not giving
I've gone the other way. I rode the guerrilla but put my deposit down for a hunter 350... but I've got a 600 too, so I'll ride that if I want a 'fast' day... for chilling out I prefer the 350....
The Goldstar will feel like a big heavy Hunter with it's thump and you won't be as inclined to throw it into the bends as you will with the Guerrilla. Both are lovely bikes and you wont go wrong with either...
I like it! Looks a proper fun bike.
They did a great job with the Himy, now they have spoilet us with this.
I like it too, and its very affordable. Are you getting one soon Steve? Would be great to hear your thoughts?
Yes, Just a matter of finding time at the moment, you know what it's like ⌚💁@@MindfulMotorcyclist
I do indeed, Voge seem to be doing the rounds on YT at the moment. Hopefully they are finally getting some momentum
You know what? The more affordable bikes there are the better. Especially starting out for new riders
The graphics are quite flashy and refreshing to see on a small bike.
Shades of the early Ducati Scrambler Icon yellow and black scheme, don't you think? 🤔
And it has a center stand! Outstanding.
I do rate this one Sean have to say only threw my leg over one but for the money it's pretty darned good I'd say for example I've just traded to a T120 and no center stand as standard no rad guard as standard . Didn't take the offer of a test as I would want to add it to my garage 😂 .I do believe this is a serious challenger to the Triumph speed 400 and could knock it off the top bike in class next year imo . Good one 👌👍
Thank you Crumbly for this comment. I'll be interested to see how many sales this takes from the Speed400, it's cheaper and a bit nicer in my opinion. Congratulations on your new T120!
Nice to come across a positive channel. Ride whatever bike you have with a smile. Keep the BSA if you can, its got history and memories with you.
Thank you Bryan, I am coming to regard the BSA as my future channel bike for many years now. Of course like the next man I get tempted by new metal particularly Royal Enfield like the Classic and Bear 650 bikes but the BSA will probably stay with me now. I really really like it...
Bloody Hell! I just bought a Hunter 350 this past March. Bloody Hell!!!
But you've to give it to the hunter for the exhaust note, it sounds way better than the 450. Also, the paint schemes are classier than guerrila.
Just bought one, I have three RE’s, Hunter, Scram and Interceptor,love them all but I’ve sold the Scram to get the GRR. Thrilled at the prospect of picking the new bike up but……trying to get it insured, nightmare. Apparently RE haven’t yet got it registered with ABI yet which means none of the insurers currently have it on their ‘system’ leading to no quote as computer says no! Currently paying about £150 for multi bike cover for all three of my current bikes. Got a quote from a leading bike insurance broker for just the GRR at £590 as it is currently deemed to be a ‘specialist bike’ in the absence of an ABI number. I’ve been told it should have an ABI number come October in which event it will be open to quotes from multiple bike insurers at a far more realistic price. But until then I’m rather stuffed as far as insurance is concerned. Suspect I will be forced to accept the silly price quoted but will look to cancel the policy once it is ABI registered and open to market competition. Just something to consider for prospective owners in the meantime. Great review as always
Thank you Martin for the comment and congratulations for the new bike, I have a feeling these will be great. I think it was good of you to share your experience with insurance to help others. Thanks!
As an update I received an insurance quote for the GRR from Principal Insurance with a premium of £275. The contact at Principal was Ricky and the insurer was Aviva. Hope this might help anyone else who is struggling to insure their GRR🤞
A very honest review. Thanks for taking your time Sean. You & Suzie have a beautiful day! Prayers sent upward for Suzie's health. Cheers!! Illinois, USA
Thank you Larry, much appreciated and I hope you enjoyed it. All the best, Sean
Hi really enjoyed this no nonsense very objective review of what looks like being a very popular bike. I'm thinking of buying one and you've really done good job of being objective without gushing over the brand like I've seen on other reviews. Also no daft music, graphics and silly chat that I don't need to watch at the start of your video. I have subscribed to your channel which is rare for me. So thank you. A bloke who loves bikes talking about bikes properly
Thanks Richard, but I fear you might be disappointed. We do not focus exclusively on reviews here, they are sporadic at best...
i kinda knew you would like that bike ;;; even though i am not in the market for one -after watching a few reviews i could tell this is better than the himo , and in my opinion better quality than the triumph 400 ,,,
I knew I'd like it too Simon 🤣. I think it's better than the Triumph but can't put my finger on why, will be interesting if Speed 400 owners trade in for this...?
A cracking bike and great news for those looking for a second hand Hunter, prices are really softening! :)
Great for Hunter purchases indeed 👍
Awesome 👌 videos and information I'm 67 my ride is a Honda 23 Rebel 1100T DCT definitely on my number 1 list when I retire in a year to join my Honda from California keep the videos coming!
Another great review. I wonder if Royal Enfield’s marketing strategy for the Guerrilla and Shotgun targeting a younger audience might be costing sales to the older riders looking at the bikes. I am not interested in buying the Guerrilla, but if I were I’d like a few more subdued color schemes. The base grey bike is the only one I wouldn’t feel too flashy on. The same applies to the Shotgun colors. My wife often rides with me, and my Interceptor is just not great for a passenger. I might consider the Shotgun, but not in the current colors. I understand trying to appeal to a younger buyer, but they need to consider aging riders as well. Keep checking those indicators…
It's okay to wait a while. There is time to decide and winter is coming making the wait all the more tolerable.
Excepting those rare days of a warm winter's day, eh my friend? 🙂
SS in commiefornia, USA.
Thanks Alvin for the comment and the comment on the colours. I agree RE have to walk a fine line keeping the 'classic' feeling colours and mixing in some fresh hues.
You are a master of your subject, this was a lovely video to watch. Thank you.
That is very kind, thank you 😊
Had a blast on one last week, need a longer one to decide, apperently doing a 450 scrambler version at some point although i think this is more scrambler than roadster on looks other than 17 inch rims.
I managed to test ride one of these today whilst my Meteor was having its MOT at Manhattan Motorcycles Sheffield (brilliant little dealership by the way). It was great fun and plenty powerful enough for the Peak District roads!. Strangely you mention the mode button as being pointless without actually trying it. I would say it's a well considered option and very useful. In "eco" mode the throttle response was completely tamed and made negotiating Sheffields busy city roads an absolute breeze. On open roads the "performance" mode dramatically quickens up throttle and makes the bike feel significantly more lively and powerful....it's genius!
I love my Meteor and don't think I could trade it for a Guerilla but I certainly think it could live alongside it in the garage! All I've got to do is persuade the wife this is a more urgent purchase than a new sofa!
Thanks for the update on that button, I was in a bit of a rush that day and wasn't sure how it all worked. I wouldn't trade my bike for a Guerrilla to be honest, I would prefer a Meteor as it's got that magic engine...
I think you'll find one of the mode settings gives a softer throttle response, if it's the same as the Himalayan.
The steering head angle is much steeper than other REs. A bit twitchy when loaded up in a cross wind maybe?
Perhaps, and a little revvy. Would make you throw it into the bends all the time, not so much of a relaxed ride as other RE bikes. On the flip side huge fun...
What do you feel about the suspension in this bike? (also comparing to the speed 400)
Morning Sean. I am not going to go into fine detail about this review, other than that I disagree with where you said about where it should be ridden. As you have no doubt seen my thoughts, for me, although obviously it will carve up city traffic with ease, the Guerrilla is outstanding on flowing A roads and twistie B road. It’s a proper hark back to the 80’s, where you have to ride it, as opposed to it doing everything for you. The throttle response is just something to get used to, it took me by surprise when I initially went up the road, but within 100 yards I was fine with it. Brilliant bike 👍
Happy to disagree Ian, it's nice to have variety of opinions in the space. Will you be buying one of this then? 😊
@@MindfulMotorcyclistdefinitely if I can get the finances sorted 😊
Sean I love the look of that machine I’ve watched a few and you’ve done a brilliant job of this✊
Must have a go but I’ve seen the new Classic 350 colours and new specs and love them too!
Top Job Sean
Always a pleasure to watch you’re reviews absolutely 😊😊
Phil
Thank you Phil that's very kind and much appreciated. In reflection I wouldn't trade in my Goldie for this as it makes you a bit of a hooligan with the revs, you want to tip in and accelerate out of bends. The BSA in contrast is much more of a relaxed ride. Thanks for the heads up about the new Classic 350 colours, I'll check them out. Again really appreciate the support and wish you super week! Cheers, Sean
I can’t decide between the Svartpilen 401, the scrambler 400x, and the guerilla 450. Can you please help me decide?? Or should I wait for the Brixton crossfire 500x releasing in October in India??
I would choose in this order:
1. RE Guerrilla 450 - many accessories, good resale, high quality
2. Triumph Speed 400 - Established brand, nice model but a few reliability issues
3. Husky 401 - would avoid in case KTM dumps the brand, financial difficulties
3. Brixton Crossfire 500 - Unknown to us here in the UK...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist thank you. That’s really helpful. Love the videos btw
Looking at final shots did you notice the different size in the radiator to your 650? 40 bhp for me is the minimum and will probably mean a lot of the Meteors and Hunters will come onto the market.
Prolly for the higher compression of bsa and how squared both engines r. Also the company that owns BSA has similar model bikes as Jawa bikes in india so tried and tested radiator or cost saving.
I did as it happens Lumpy, I noticed the G450 rad is rectangular and located high up on the downtube, almost by the steering stem. The BSA item is a lot more square and physically bigger. I think I and many others are now over the BSA GS650 radiator drama, that seemed to be an issue with the owners of original GS bikes coming to terms with the brands revival... Thanks!
Great review Sean, but I think you’re having too much fun 😁, which is exactly what this bike seems to be designed for. RE apparently has put together another winning combination of style, price and quality build. The only thing missing for me is what I always look for with Royal Enfield, and that is classic styling which is just my personal preference. Your ride showed this bike to be a well mannered, fun bike with more than enough power . Cheers and thanks for the video, Dan ✌️🏍🇨🇦
Hi Dan, I also usually go for the classic styling on the RE bikes, but something about this just drew me in. Perhaps it is the 80's paint jobs feels nostalgic for me... I'm not sure but as you say it felt like incredible fun! I hope you get a few last riding days in before the winter comes to Canada. It's already cooled right down here!! Cheers, Sean
I rather like this bike. My 390 Duke is 23 kg lighter, although the RE's centre stand much weigh a fair bit. I could be interested in the Guerrilla, but it will have to prove itself in terms of reliability. I don't like the purple on this paint scheme. I do like the offet dash and filler cap and the wide bars, fork gaitors and the overall looks and stance. It looks better than the Triumph. Can you get soft side bags for the Guerrilla?
Good comment, agree with most of the above. Being RE you will be able to have aftermarket and OEM saddlebag options for sure...
What do you feel about the radiator placement and orientation, the speed 400 is tidier and I like the gold forks this looks like the forks are workmanlike. Like the chain opposite side to exhaust & calliper with the centre stand making chain maint easy.
Would like twin clocks or not offset TFT good though.
Like any human designed machine it's got some idiosyncrasies and personally I like longer mud guards but would prefer a flatter seat.
I don't think it's Himmy or Goerilla it's vs Speed 400 is the direct competitor.
Good news if you are after a cheap 350 they will get chopped in was thinking of cb125f for an eco commuter but a cheap Hunter might do nicely.
Well I'm coming from a BSA Goldstar radiator which was one of the biggest on the new wave of water cooled classic bikes so for me both the G450 and Speed 400 have small neat rads. The G450 rad is also high up its away from road grit and dirt which has got to be a plus. I would probably have this bike without the fancy TFT, I get confused with all the functions TBH. I think prices of Hunters and Scrams are now sub £2k at trade in, which means you'll buy a 2000mile year old bike from a dealer at £2.8 ish... good value for sure.
Picked up my Guerilla 450 last weekend, swapped my Classic 350 and Yamaha Scoot for it, have done 200 miles on it since Sunday. Have kept my 350 Meteor as I still need a 350 J series bike in the fold. So far the Guerilla has been great, very pkeased with it and such a bargain price tag.🙂👍
Thanks for sharing that Jonathon, I didnt know you were in the market for a 450 bike. I believed for some reason that you were into the classic looking RE range, ha! Well learn something new and glad you've picked one up. Heck of a lot of bike for the money.
I was very interested in the guerrilla so test rode one a couple of weeks ago. I wanted a second bike to ride everyday instead of using my 600 all the time, but, although I loved the guerrilla and found it the most comfortable bike I've ever sat on, I didn't like the way the engine was egging me on all the time. My 600 makes me ride faster than I should so I want a relaxing ride. The guerrilla didn't like riding relaxed. It didn't like being ridden lazily. Was also shouting a bit loudly for an old duffer like me. I don't think I'm their market....
Thanks for the comment Rob, I also ride a 600cc sportbike and I know exactly what you mean. My BSA Goldstar is very much a plodder and doesn't egg you on to tip into bends...
The nice thing about adjustable suspension on sportier bikes is that you can dial out a lot of the firmness for when you're going up & down shit roads, then dial it back in before you go blasting away on track.
For a bike like this though, you only really need rear pre-load to adjust to your mass.
I was pleasantly surprised by the uncomplicated battery access revealed when you removed the seat. I've been traumatised by the likes of the W650.
Great video thanks Sean and Suzie. I am torn between the RE Guerilla 450 and the RE Himalayan 450. Although you say the RE Guerilla is your favourite out of the two there is something inside me that feels the RE Himalayan would be a better bike to own for day to day riding and for touring. 😀
For touring you would be much better off with the Himalayan. The Guerilla is quite skittish in steering and throttle response, very similar to the Speed 400 in that regard. Thanks 👍
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thanks for your response. The only other small capacity bike I have seen that I quite like is the Benelli Leoncino 500 range. What are your thoughts on this bike?
@williamlylecameron9345 honestly not great, I've not ridden it but they don't sell and they are an Italian brand made in China which doesn't draw people in. At least CF and Voge are rising stars of Chinese brands with a bit of a tail wind at present. If I rode one perhaps I'd change my mind...
Great looking bike,but im not sure 40 bhp on a 184 kilo bike would be enough long term.
I test rode a Guerrilla on Monday, great bike with lovely handling and good brakes and surprisingly quick. The engine doesn’t like to pull from lower revs in higher gears, you need to go down the box a lot more than you would on a 411 or a 350. I though it was a bit of a hooligan bike as it did entice you to wring its neck quite a bit, it reminded me a bit of a Honda Hornet 600 I had about 20 years ago only milder ( to be fair the Hornet was lighter with twice the horse power and much better brakes, a real hooligan machine) . It’s a fun bike that makes you grin, but will encourage you to ride it in a more spirited manor. I liked it a lot but I’m going with a Kawasaki Eliminator 500se which is lighter with a little bit more power and a lot more torque, it won’t handle the twisties as well as the Guerrilla as it has less ground clearance but it will give slightly better performance and a more relaxed ride. It’s more expensive but Kawasaki are giving a £500 deposit contribution and on PCP they are the same monthly payment. If you want more sporty there’s always the Z500 or the Ninja 500.
Sorry about your poor choice. You probably have body order and no prospects in life
when it comes to being a fanboy of RE or Triumph, in this case Triumph means Bajaj/Triumph. But when choosing between the Shotgun 650 and the Speed Twin 900, I choose the Shotgun because it's appearance and riding position are better for me. But, the real question is, which do you pick, the Shotgun or the Guerrilla?
Both offer comfortable riding postures, coupled with above average handling. The Shotgun certainly looks more wow, but the GRR450 is more practical, and much lighter.
Could I please know your opinion, of what you think of the rear suspension for the GRR compared to the Shotgun.
For our rough roads in northern Thailand, I would like more suspension travel from the GRR, do you know if RE will be releasing a Scram 450?
I'm a new subscriber and mindfullness practitioner, your style of video production is very useful, Thanks!
Yay! Vimto… cool! (and tasty!). Great throttle response looks fun. ❤️👍😎✅
Was as excited about the Vimto as the bike 😂!
Great reviews, had my fingers burnt two years ago with a brand new Himmie, had shocking after sales, went on for months and months, which ended up with me just giving up, buying a CRF250 Rally and selling the Himmie, however I am still strangely drawn to the Enfield range. Thank you for your brilliant reviews, carry on the good work, I’m still unsure I would ever buy a brand new one again though…but who knows, perhaps they have got their act together.
Maybe the after sales was down to your particular dealer. We have a Scram and have had excellent after sales service from our dealer
@@susananderson7504 nice to hear, what’s your thoughts on the Scram?
Hi Paul, thank you for your kind comment, I'm also strangely drawn to everything RE, I'd probably have most of their bikes. Like you I bought a new Royal Enfield and also a new Voge, lost money on both of course which has made me now vow to only buy near new from now on...
Love it. Don't use the other bikes much at all since we got it. We got the metal panniers and a big top box and it's perfect for camping
Go have a test ride ..what a great little bike ..handles brilliant .brakes good .and goes well ..best fun for the money ive ever had .
Brakes very good I agree...
Im about to buy a scram 411 and I am debating holding off for the Guerilla. I would just like to maybe but some off road tyres on and give it a more scramble look.
Fabulous real world review Sean, exceptionally good, well done! 👍👍
Thank you very much Richard, that's kind and well received! Cheers, Sean
I have the same indicator ocd….i thought it was just me 😂. Have test ridden the same bike and loved it. I am looking for an easy going bike and my only concern with the guerrilla is that it brought out my wilder side, it wants to be thrashed and chucked into corners as faster as you dare all the time.
We should form a group Steve, there was someone else on here who does it too 😂😂. Regarding the Guerilla it would make you a little bit of a hooligan, certainly compared to the BSA which is more of a plodder... cheers, Sean
Really brilliant bike. I wish it was a 500cc or a 650cc. Unless Honda comes up with a really nice retro CB500 sort of bike, I will most probably be getting this as my fun go-to-cafe sort of bike alongside my Honda ADV350. Another choice could be a RE Classic 650. The real retro style color scheme. But not sure yet.
Both will be nice, I suspect the Classic 650 will be a lot less frantic...
@ in that case The Geurilla it is 😇
Great review. Has this bike done more miles than the 450 Himalayan you tested? If so, the engine on this one might have loosened-up more and will have less vibrations -- just a thought. EDIT: I disagree about economy mode being pointless -- what if you are running low on fuel and need to make it to the next petrol station?
Then you use the throttle carefully, you dont need a computer to do that for you.
@stephen this is a good point, this bike had 980km on it so perhaps the engine had bedded in? Great comment and something for me to think about...
I’m thinking of a Himalayan a 2020 as a winter friend.Looked at these a but you getting into Honda 500x territory. What’s the point.Maybe I’m missing it. Nice content thankyou👍
in the 70s the first thing me and my friends did was pop rivet a mudflap on the front mudguard if there wasnt one' Ive done it for years models permitting.
40bhp. lol - good for going to the shops...not my thing. I like to get away from traffic if required.
Its a great starter bike - hard to stall and be in the wrong gear with the single cylinder.
Your BSA however - thing of beauty - i get it.
I can just make out from your profile image a gixxer? Red letter R? Yes perhaps the colour of this bike appeals but not the performance haha!
so you can't change the riding mode while riding?? so when you go into slow moving traffic and you want the lower revving engine you have to stop turn the bike off then restart to go into ECO.. that can't be right.
Liked the video, I had a ride on one 2 weeks ago, great bike, had a test ride on the speed 400 on Saturday, nice bike, but found the throttle very snatchy at low revs, think I'll be going for a Guerrilla, but having trouble getting sn insurance quote, not many companies recognise it yet 😮
Yes things haven't been going so smoothly for RE since they took over the distribution from MotoGB. They needed to update the MIB motor insurers bureau with the G450 details to allow it to be insured, looks like someone forgot...
Really good video Shaun, nice bike much better than the Triumph in my opinion and its build quality looks top draw as well. Royal Enfield have really done a great job and the price is also spot on.
Agree, Agree and Agree Ian. I think for some reason this bike pips the Speed 400 for me. I can't place exactly why but it just does...
Nice ride Sean loving the gorilla or however you say it, sounds as much fun as the shotgun for a lot less, love vimto but prefer Dr Pepper lol I love rubber indicator stalks don’t snap in a drop just fold 😊 I need to make up my mind do I jump or just keep racking up the km on the classic Sarah says she loves the classic but she doesn’t like the inability to just twist the gas and get out of a crowd or out of trouble which she has been used to doing on the Ducatis and Buells ktm etc, the gorilla is RE 690 duke ….. Pete 🇫🇷
Dr Pepper has a weird taste Pete 😂😂. I prefer Vimto when you can get it. Good point about the rubber indicator stalks, I'll mention that next time I see them on a bike, good tip! I'd probably have the Guerilla (is that double RR and Double LL?🤣) over the shotgun, it's cheaper but around £2k and just lighter and fun... cheers, Sean
Great review. Not sure its fair to compare it to the Himi 452. They are very different bikes with different purposes. It strikes me the guerrilla is a street bike for urban riding. Having ridden both, the gearing and ( i think) the fueling is very different.
Nice looking bike. Not a fan of the offset TFT. Even looking at it from the front it looks weird being offset from the headlight. But yeah, looks like a great city bike.
Thanks for the comment 👍
Great review..Ive had a test ride and thought it was excellent fun. A question...your BSA is now £4999 new in highland green. The BSA vs RE Guerrilla? Two singles, different style...what do you think?
BSA is a very much more relaxed ride, longer wheelbase, rake, swing arm, 18inch front, more torque, less shifting etc etc. The Guerilla wants you to chuck it into bends, I'm sticking with my BSA 😀😃
Thanks Sean...I like the BSA, its just the centre stand issue and lack of dealers that bothers me...but its a classier bike and the one I'd be more likely to look back at I think
Well I was considering a new Himalayan to sit next to my Hunter but now I'm thinking just how often will I go off road here in Australia. Waiting for the Guerrilla to hit our dealers here. Thanks!
Hi Skotty, that was why I compared the two, I think of the Sherpa engined bikes this one is much better...
Nice video Sean. Trying to decide between the Guerrilla or the Goldstar. What's putting me off the BSA is that a few of the reviews I've seen on it seems to show either discolouration or a rust spot on the exhaust about 6-8" behind the footpeg.
Hi Gary, now that is a difficult one. Guerrilla has less weight, more nimble, the whole RE apparatus backing it up. It's probably one of these heart says Goldstar and head says Guerrilla situations. If something goes awry with my bike I'd be very tempted to move onto one of these REs...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thanks Sean.
Just remember what Uncle Stu has said regarding reviewing new demo bikes. If it's good now, in 2k miles it's going to be even better once the engine has loosened up a bit. Fine by me as I'd never buy a brand new one, but, this time next year Rodney... 😅
This was on 980km Lee, it was the press bike ridden by the big TH-camrs and Journos in Spain at the launch apparently... must of had a few all day rides. In 12 months these might be available for £4k with 1000miles on them... very tempting 😀😀
@@MindfulMotorcyclist extremely tempting 😅 I'm saving up already
Wished you would have taken the Gorilla down some poor B roads and unclassified roads as I found the suspension rough especially the rear, the roads your on look more suitable and will make the bike feel good in comparison. Sorry forgot great vlog.
Hi John, there was some bumps and potholes but overall yes a smooth stretch. Suzie and I went out again yesterday on a different road which is a bit more uneven. That video is in the works... thanks for the comment.
The grab handles r legal requirements in India.
I think Speed 400 has more refine engine but i like the Guerrilla 450 suspension .
Do you get your RE test bikes from Moto GB, Sean? I notice that they are also the UK agents for another Indian brand, Hero motorcycles. I think they may be new to the UK market but I'd be interested to see you do a review of their Maverick 440. It seems to be a direct competitor to the Guerilla - even the tank has a similar design with the prominent 'wings'.
Hero is quite popular here although there small displacement commuters are sold the most but I guess seeing RE do well outside India, some of the other companies have started to make their bikes available in global markets.
@@percentbigfoot Yes, I've seen Hero get a foothold in the South African market, so it'll be interesting to see how they do in the UK.
@@luddite6239hero maverick 440 has harly Davidson 440x engine , and it's great bike with 27 hp
@@luddite6239 yes both hero and Bajaj quite literally forced the Chinese bikes out of African market, thereby ending their Monopoly there.
But European buyers are quite different, also the purpose is different too, so it should be interesting to see how these companies approach the market in Europe.
TVS Is another company that's done quite well and plans to go global.
They have a nice 180, 300 cc engine.
I have just been onto the MotoGB website and couldnt see Hero listed? If the Mavrick was on there I'd be happy to ask for a loan of it...
Great review yet again Sean.
I visited the new Revolutions dealership in Perth. And got to sit on one.
Too small for Two Wheel Willie.
Too tall a seat height for Wee Mark!
I was on the very tip of my tip toes.😢😢😢
I really like the look of this one. So, until there is a lowering link and seat. I will have to pass.
I noticed that it’s supposed to have a slightly lower seat height over the 400 Triumph. But for me sitting on both, I found them to identical in height. (For me)
So I just await and see if, a lowering link and seat comes available.
Thanks Mark for the comment. If this bike ends up being really popular I think it will have a lot of aftermarket support and hopefully the lowering link...
Back in he day when I had my SX250 Harley (Gagiva really) used a bake bean tin for a baffle.
Looks superb does the Guerrilla ❤
Zawieszenie czy nie jest za twarde na dziurawe drogi ?
I visited my local dealer to look at the Himalayan which I found difficult to move off the side stand seemed heavier than my Honda cb500x. I liked the shotgun but the graphics didn’t gel with me. Looked at the cf moto 450 but the salesman said would be much different to my Honda but I discounted this comment has the dealer would make more money on the shotgun as higher price.i am not confident of the reliability of cf moto shame as the bike looked great. This 450 road version would probably suit me better as lighter than an adventure style bike. Would this 450 be much less power than my Honda cb500x ?
Hi Malcolm, it would be about the same tbh, the CB500x is 200kg more or less and 47hp from 471cc, the RE Guerrilla is 184kg with 40hp from 452cc. You'd probably have a higher torque figure on the Enfield but I'd have to check...
is it better than the goldstar ?
For me no, GS is heavier but it's also a gentler ride and more stable. The torque is higher on the 650 as well. G450 a brilliant bike all the same...
I too have a Hunter. I vowed I would never get rid of it, until this came out! Curse you RE and your expertly pitched product development. One thing I’d be interested in is what mpg is this fine bike getting? I also am a compulsive indicator canceller, after I failed my bike test for the first time after I left my indicators on 😡
Oh, you reminded me to complain about CEAT tyres! Squared off super fast on my Himalayan (by 3k miles) and had dry rot on the side walls after like 6 months. Awful! Yes I check my tyres are at manufacturer specified pressure regularly and no I don't sit and do burnouts or park my bike in acid.
Tubeless Rims/Tires? Ground Clarence Height? Suitable for mild green lanes riding? Hopefully these issues will be addressed in future reviews, if any.
Unfortunately Louis they wont be addressed, we don't do serious reviews with facts and figures it's all opinion pieces on this channel. Perhaps go and watch a proper bike review channel or read from the Royal Enfield spec sheet downloadable from the website.
With real mudguards. Take note Triumph. Ithink twin clocks would elevate this product
What happened to the Vimto?, Seen the bike at Midwest is does look cool, But then I saw on you tube the new Voge 900, that looks super , are you going to test one soon? at £8999 that is serious value for money.
I have had a chat with the importer for Voge, they are awaiting a delivery of these bikes any day now... it's a bit big and powerful for me but I'll try it anyway
@@MindfulMotorcyclist YOU TUBE VIDEO FROM POOLE MOTORS makes it look good, but they cannot ride review until 21st September
Cable throttle?
The spec sheet lists RIDE BY WIRE SYSTEM so assume the bike is electronic not mechanical... thanks.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Yeh, I had my hopes up until you mentioned the all important modes...
Try filling the 500 Hornet up with petrol…nightmare, and nobody mentions it!
I'll slow down for this urbanisation. Cómo? ,-) This built up area perhaps.
Yes we did spend first 5 months of the year in Spain/Portugal 🤣🤣
I had a test ride and bought one next day 👍
Good boy Sean 😊
The stance and length of the bike has the same look as a old Norton Commando
It's a looker alright...
You had to do it…lol😀👍
I had to didn't I, funny thing is it hasn't even hurt how well the video was received calling it 'Vimto' 😂
Hello from america ,uhm,breaking the speed limit is kinda the point of em aint it?
Not in this country, you can be prosecuted based on online videos. I had the police send a letter to my house for riding a motorcycle during covid. I think somebody reported me. All my fast riding is on track now...
higher Amperage*, voltage is same
umm akshually
Great looking bike...but...I am no fan of modern exhausts. I really like an exhaust to look like the guns on a WW2 destroyer! And...yet again...offset dials! WHY?
Centrally located dials are a preference I give you that, not a major bug bear for me really.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I agree! But, if it is not popular, why stick it to the sude? Symmetry is appreciated the world over
beauty
don't blink - or you will miss 2 wheeled willies current bike -- it's a keeper , ha ha ,, .... now i get the the vimto click bait style intro ,, brill ;;
He's loving it at the moment, if anything it will be too fast but let's see. I do love his channel 😀
When I first saw it on display I was on the fence about the concept and colour scheme but then realised that they wanted to make it different from everyone else and individually speaks up here lots of people have said they don’t mind it. I have a Harley Iron 883 2017 as my main and a CF Moto 450MT as my 2nd Adventure touring bike. Thanks for the review
Sorry you lack the character to resist communist bikes.
@@hershchat and the finance to have more.
Can't stand that colour 😂 but love the bike.
Same here 😉
Here 1st 😁
Top marks!
Hello fellow ADHD person, I too have the habit of canceling my blinkers every 5 minutes
There are worse habits!
I can't say I've noticed any undue praise in the reviews for this bike. The opinions do seem positive, but not overly so. When I owned an RE, I did feel that Triumphs were always hyped up, then I bought one and suddenly felt that all the other modern retros were getting all the kudos. Maybe - and please don't take this the wrong way - your ownership of the BSA has heightened your awareness of compliments for the competition? We are tribal creatures, after all!
By the way, that colour scheme is horrendous 😂 give me the Brava Blue all day long! 😁
Who knows Ben, I could be open to bias. The BSA does have loyal owners but isn't that well liked by TH-camrs, most seem to spend the time documenting the problems with the Goldstar. I'm very tribal about Royal Enfield as well, which is really my disappointment when they get on this hype marketing agenda that reminds me more of a BMW GS1300 launch than an affordable little single type bike. When I watched the launch reviews of this bike, I was blown away by how positive they were but I've not watched that many dealership test ride type reviews, perhaps they are more balanced. Anyway good comment, thank you 😊
Look,s just like triumph,s speed 400 🤔
Even though this bike is from india, we do not have the roads that you are seemingly enjoying there. So in Indian city roads I would not recommend this bike (too heavy) I'd rather buy a KTM
KTM are a struggling bike company, please be careful investing you money into this brand.
Sadly it won't pull the skin off a rice pudding , bit like honda super dreams were in the day
Seen these for £4500 otr absolute bargain.
Next time you go shopping - a better microphone!
Too much wind noise or? Be specific it could be helmet muffle, mic placement. It doesn't help me to say just do better... thanks.
personally i did not like it as the riding position is not what i liked❤
Fair comment...
BIKES OUT OF INDIA
Try getting service and technical service information out of India, they are a joke, for a start most reviews in Hindi, as I said , jokers.
I have a Suzuki AX100 and a VSTROM 250 SX I'm sure I have room to speak.
This guy is NOT Like the Trump of reviewers. I bet he DOES NOT believe that immigrants eat pet dogs and cats.
That's it , I can't listen to that mouthful of cotton wool sound 😖
What do you mean by cotton wool loki?
Aaay yupp Stu baby.
Uncle Stu knows a lot more about bikes than I do 😂