The most recent data has average diesel cost in the US at $2.936/gal, and gasoline $2.473/gal. What this means is that at 27mpg the Ram running diesel gets you 9.19 miles/dollar, while the Ecoboost gives 9.3 miles/dollar, or another way to look at it is the Ram gets a gas equivalent 22.74 mpg.
Who needs a tailgate that opens with a remote? That isn't going to hold up if its used as a work truck. Are we becoming so lazy that we cannot open up a tailgait anymore?
Here's 2 examples: It's pouring rain, you have a couple large items that require both hands. Instead of walking them over, putting them down, opening the tailgate and then picking them back up, you can pop the tailgate, carry them over and pop them in. Another example: You're operating a forklift with a pallet. Instead of having to hop off the forklift, you can press a button and the tailgate will drop. It's the convenience factor
Thomas Sava You obviously don't watch all the videos... Just because Ford has the best powertrain line up out right now does not mean they are fanboys!
When you said the Ford 2.7 is a petroleum engine, I think you meant to say that it's a gasoline engine. Both diesel and gasoline are petroleum products. Other than that, great review.
nageorgiou2 Not necessarily. The max rating for the EcoDiesel is around 9,000 lbs. where the 2.7 EcoBoost is max rated at 8,500 lbs. That EcoDiesel should be able to tow more, but you have to look at their configurations as well. Also, the Ram is not a 6 year old truck, it was redesigned not 2 years ago with the diesel being introduced last year.
Just call it a gasoline engine instead of a petroleum engine, and both of them are petroleum engines diesel fuel is just an other petroleum based fuel .
Just got around to watching this review; because I'm thinking about buying a pickup. Good review... thanks for the comparison and a perspective on V-6s.
Petrol and petroleum are two unique substances. Petrol is refined from petroleum, just like diesel is refined from petroleum. If Denver ever secedes from the British isles and adopts the american word "gasoline" I think a lot of the confusion between petrol/gasoline and petroleum would go away.
Bob Hope What confusion ? Petroleum refers to both both crude oil and petroleum products. Petrol derives from the French ' petrole ' which comes from the Middle English ( derived from medieval Latin ) ' petroleum '. Or, to put it simply, petrol and petroleum both derive from the same word. The only person confused by petrol/gasoline/petroleum would appear to be yourself.
MrKeyboardCommando Are you so young that you haven't finished your basic schooling or did you drop out? Here is the knowledge you're lacking: auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/alternative-fuels/question105.htm Petroleum is the unrefined crude oil, petroleum can be refined into many different substances, like gasoline(petrol), diesel, kerosene and many many other substances. Petrol is a refined petroleum product, just like diesel is a refined petroleum product. PETROLEUM IS MORE THAN JUST PETROL. P.S. I wasn't even the original one to make this point, that was Don Hanson. So your comment about me being the only one shows you lack basic comprehension skills.
Bob Hope Bob, I can't help it if the English language doesn't comply with your desires. I'm simply stating what the rest of the world says. Anyway, you said petrol and petroleum were two " unique " ( ??? ) substances. Now you're saying petroleum is petrol. This is exactly the point I'm making. It looks to me like you're talking your usual load of bollocks. You're just a bloody idiot.
Wondering where all that $50K went in the Ram? I asked myself when comparing the 2014 Ram to the 2104 F-150. Similar equipped trucks, the Fords were almost $10k more on average.
Great review roman i like how you said the positives and negatives about the truck. What i would like to see is real world fuel economy not just the ike gauntlet but city and highway driving.
I work at a ford dealership and I can tell you right now that the 2015 Laramie limited has a better interior than fords new platinum f-150. They compared a base model ram to an optioned ford in this test. Of course that specific ram will feel "dated".
+Jose Mendez the ford of the same general price doesn't even come with carpeted floors and a min touch screen. It's apples to oranges. The 2015 Laramie limited might be the nicest dodge interior I've ever seen in any truck. It's crazy nice not to mention air suspension which automatically lowers when you get out, and all grade A materials.
noting that the previous F150 with either the Triton 4.6 or the Triton 5.4- This 2.7L Ecoboost out performs both. Both of these trucks are amazing. it just comes to a matter of styling and preference. Last nights Top Gear they used the F150 Raptor and the Silverado Z71 Diesel. They were impressed with both trucks. This made me feel proud because the British Top Gear really disliked American trucks until now, and they are actually considering buying a truck for their personal life. American trucks came a long way and are really good now.
Acuravigor47 That is very true, but then the Chevy did break a drive shaft and couldn't make it up the mountain while the Raptor made it to the top with a flat tire.
Daniel Bell Yeah you are correct, but remember, the Raptor had a full upgrade from Lingelfilter. Suspension, engine and drive shafts to handle the supercharger. The Silverado was completely stock, and not built for that terrain.
Acuravigor47 It was GMs Z71 package. The old mannish way that May drives, it shouldn't have had any problems getting to the top of the mountain vs the maniacal way Clarkson was driving that Raptor.
Daniel Bell The terrain was the same for both of them. Fact is, he had aftermarket suspension and driveshaft's on the Raptor. The Silverado was a stock Z71. Nothing special.
Acuravigor47 Sorry, but you are wrong on this. The Hennessey VelociRaptor 600 used had no such upgrades. The suspension and driveline were stock. Also, that Silverado wasn't a 1500, it was a 2500. There is no reason that driveshaft should've failed. www.hennesseyperformance.com/2014-ford-raptor-velociraptor600-topgear.html
I am extremely happy with my Ecodiesel. I once got 38 mpg going over a mountain pass. It also tows very well and got 15mpg towing 8000 pounds. Air ride suspension is fabulous.
This was a stupid review: they tested them like they were muscle cars. Frankly, I could give a rats patootie what the 0-60 was or the ¼ mile ET; it's a truck for God's sake. Acknowledging that, I would want a steel body over aluminum, but Ford does get cool points for that. To me the 600 pound gorilla is the diesel engine; it's about time an American pickup had a diesel in it. (Dodge had one a while back but it was an import.) I'll wait 'till the trailering test for a real comparison of the two. (Funny, another test I just watched gave the Dodge the edge on the interior; was Dodge set up in this test?
+DocLarsen44 He sure is short on facts. He keeps calling the Ford a "petroleum" powered engine. Does he not realize diesel is also "petroleum"? He said the Dodge eco-diesel is the only diesel engine available in a full sized truck! What fucking planet is this guy from? I feel embarrassed for clicking on this link.
Someone wrote" They both employ small displacement "Eco" turbocharged engines, but similarities end there." WRONG.... BOTH have an engine block made of CGI ( compacted graphite iron) from the foundry Tupy. Both are bullet proof. The Swedish company Sintercast is providing Tupy with the high tech for this CGI.
+Johnny Pea They are, and it made the guy sound like an embicile. Not to mention the comment about how a lot of people drive with gloves on-I don't know a single person that leaves their work gloves on when driving. The guy seems disconnected from reality. And 50k is definitely on the higher end of the spectrum. I believe the f-150s start around 26.
+idigitalianstuff So does the dodge, but with the upgraded engines, which you can only get in the mid tiers, theyre around 40k single cab. All some options and tax, theyll reach 50k easy.
+12TreeGaming Regardless, I stand by my words. In this age of heated and cooled cabins, who drives with gloves?? Maybe I'm just numb-nutted, but I don't know a single person that drives with gloves. But then again, I don't associate with pussies so I wouldn't know...
Great comparison! By the way, gas and diesel are both petroleum products created during the first thermal cracking of the raw petroleum. They go on to further catalytic crack the long hydrocarbons left over into gasoline. A standard barrel of petroleum is 42 gallons. More than half is refined into gasoline.
True. My Laramie has the two-tone brown interior, and it looks a lot better. Also, I would never Armorall the interior as they did. Jeez, it makes it look so 1980. Oddly, he talked about the controls on the RAM but never showed them.
ok, so, kodose to ram for 27 MPG, but mide you its a diesel, so, ram has 27 HY, Ford has 23 HY, lets say you thake a 100 mile HY trip. in ram, that's 100/27(MPG)=3.7(Gallons of fuel) so then 3.7x3.0(Dollars of diesel fuel here in FL)=$11.11 to do the trip, with ford, 100/23(MPG)=4.34(Gallons of fuel) so then 4.34x2.20(Price of reg gas in FL)=$9.56 dollars to take the trip, so, with less fuel economy, ford is cheaper to drive than the dodge. and $1.55 can add up over the life time of the truck.
longevity is on the diesels side..... but the maintenance is more expensive plus the DEF..don't forget to add that in there (not sure if that applies to the small diesels)
and, over a life of say 200,000 miles, the fords estimated cost of fuel is $19,130 total. dodge is $22,222, for those with out a calculator, the ford is $3,092 CHEAPER on gas over a 200,000 mile life time.
I takes a LONG time to make up the difference with the added cost of the engine option alone. The window sticker for the ram Eco is 22 mpg's combined and the F150 is 20 combined. Here the math on fuel alone. NO DEF or oil changes. National average on Gas is $2.27 National average on Diesel is $2.86 Ram 12k a year Fuel COST is 1558 F150 12k a year Gas cost is 1362
It's obvious where the extra money goes in the Ram. It's a longer cab and the engine and transmission accounts for $4000 extra dollars. Ford trucks are generally the most expensive in their brackets.You guys should say which trim levels you're testing and not reuse footage from other videos.
The02CumminsRAM These are comparable trim levels, the ecodiesel is an expensive option, the 2.7 is not. A good chunk of the cost is that you cannot buy this truck with a diesel without getting the expensive 8 speed transmission. If you go the ram website, the 3.6L pentstar with the 8 speed is actually MORE expensive than the Hemi with the 5 speed.
They're not comparable trims the Lariat is equal to the Laramie and the outdoorsman would be more equal to a XLT. Now what options you add to those trims is what can throw off the prices
Something to take into consideration aside from the admission price of getting an ecodiesel over the same equipped Hemi truck. Although it costs about $3500 msrp over the Hemi, the actual sale price can be a $10,000 difference, because Ram discounts the hemis a lot more than the ecodiesel. $10k buys a lot of gasoline. Also factor in maintenance cost, and this will go for hemi, or the ecoboost vs ecodiesel. Hard to get a warranty approved oil change done on the ecodiesel for less than $200, you can do an oil change on the Ford for the price of the ecodiesel oil filter. DPF fluid consumption, and check how much a transmission filter change costs for the Ram 8speed. Just food for thought.
Great review. Would you consider doing tfltalks telling us which vehicles you would buy for yourselves in different categories again? You, Nathan, Emme and Andre for tflcar and You, Nathan, Kent for tfltruck. Just a thought. Not sure if that would get y'all in trouble with the manufacturers or not. I love the passion and dedication you all have and would definitely like to meet the crew when I get to Colorado.
well to be fair to the ram it's now the oldest design out of all the half ton trucks. So it is dated in that sense compared to the new Silverado, new F150, new Tundra and even new Titan, but with that said it still looks modern.
I had a new '87 Mitsubishi SPX 2wd (very rare) with the 4-cyl 2.6L MCA jet engine. Smooth, but I doubt I ever got north of 25 mpg. Usually in the teens.
Always fun to watch TFL review new trucks. Downside is they never really do apples to apples. If you're going to compare aesthetics, such as the interior of a vehicle, you should consider the trim levels. Lariat to Outdoorsman? The Lariat would win hands down. The upper trims of a Ram do not seem dated, unless you're in a trim below Laramie. I'm sure the XLT trims will have dated plastics too.
+Mike Jones It may lose all the awards, but that isn't because other vehicles are more deserving. It's because whoever hands out these awards are idiots.
Both trucks are great. I cant help but wonder why it took so long for the truck market to get here though. It took this long for them to finally provide a true quality product. I can only hope that they keep raising the bar, and not the price.
Uncle Deez that's not true. These trucks don't even compare. That's like comparing a ram 2500 cummins vs a F150 3.5 ecoboost......the ford is faster but other than that the ram fucks the ford up in every way. Also wait ten years I bet you'll see all those rusted out warped shit aluminum "trucks" that have holes in the body that are rotting underneath because they can't take punishment steel can. It may be heavier and slower but it can tow more and it will outlast the ford easily. Plus your talking about a 7 year old truck vs one that's been completely redesigned...way t until the new ram comes out it's going to blow the doors off the f150. It's going to have turbo engine choices as well...2.0 turbo base engine with 325 horsepower. Much better economy than the 2.7
Well it corrodes. It's a different process but it does fall apart. Especially in higher ph situations. The salt they use on the roads where I live will corrode it to shit
Edmunds actually did long term tests for each of these trucks. While they did encounter one engine stall issue along the way, they apparently approved its mileage and performance and gave it 4.5/5 stars. While the F-150 didn't have the same engine issue, general maintenance like oil changes was complicated and it seems they weren't impressed by the mileage and apparently the 5L V8 version actually got slightly better mileage. They gave it a 4/5 stars.
then its an entirety different truck. Ram and Chevy have been trying to copy ford for years with their "rebel" and "reaper" ripoffs. they're just poor chores of the raptor. and now ford has once again introduced something new and i give it 3 years before team and Chevy move to aluminum bodies.
Cummins did make an engine for the 1500. The 5L V8. Short of pushing it off a cliff with a tailwind in the bargain, it could never pass 24 MPG. FCA already had a proven engine available from VM Motori, so they said, "pass." Cummins was shocked, but really, they've had enough (more than enough) time to learn how to build modern efficient compact diesels. They finally found a sucker, er, buyer in Nissan. They'll be damned lucky to recoup the dev costs.
Cadillac Car Guy They were doing a pretty good job of killing Chrysler off anyway. It's exciting to see where Fiat is taking them, but I do wish they could've stayed in American hands.
Daniel Bell Soon enough GM will be dead and so will Ford they all will probably just combine into a mega company but definitely not in the near or far future probably like 2200 or something.
I’ve driven both and picked the f150 with the 3.5. Glad I did, friend of mine tows a similar trailer to mine and when on steep grades his ram struggles to maintain speed even with the 8 speed trans. My ecoboost with or without my tube maintains speed without much of any downshifting and in fact easily picks up speed. I love the idea but to small of a diesel for this size truck put a 4.2 litre with some more ass to it and I would get one.
EcoDiesels are failing shortly over 100K miles. MAJOR FAILURE. Cam gear slips on the camshaft, since they did not bother with a spline or keyway... only bolt tension holds it. It slips, comes out of time.. valves hit pistons BOOM.... And you looking at BIG BIG bucks. Strangely this is not a new engine.. It's been used in europe for a while seemingly decen reliability. If it was me, I would take the 2.7 or 3.5 Ecoboost or the 5.0... if I needed to tow. I might buy the BASE Ram 3.6 engine. If I just needed a lighter duty work truck. The 3.6 Pentastar in the Ram with that 8spd ZF Trans is pretty nice for just driving around, and gives 25MPG.
+kens97sto171 I would choose the 5.0 over the ecoboost all day I mean failed turbos and shit fuel mileage out the 3.5 is pointless if you tow. But if I tow a lot which I do I would go Cummins and have no problems. Half tons are only good for light towing and around town.
+svt89 failed turbos would not worry me, but just the added complexity of making all that work as the years pass. I'd agree with the 5.0 choice. I think the 3.5 can tow more than the 5.0 and a Cummins powered truck is way overkill for my needs... awesome engine though. the base v6 in the Ram with the 8spd runs way nicer than the base v6 in the Ford. just not sure if trust a Chrysler product right now.
kens97sto171 I've owned plenty of Ford,GM, and Chrysler products and Ford would have to be 3rd on the list of reliability haven't been impressed with any of there diesels at all was impressed with my 5.0 mustang though. And the 3.5 eco is no good if its in the shop all the time and can't pass up a gas station lol !
+svt89 The last decent Ford Diesel was the 7.3 next 2 were garbage, and too soon for the current one to know. have you heard about bad stuff on the 3.5? and I agree the 5.0 is pretty nice. I'm leaning towards a base Tradesman RAM with the 3.7 V6. plenty of power for my needs, and 25MPG or better HWY. what issues have you had with the various brands?
please show me what proof you have of eco diesels failing shortly over 100,000 miles they just came out in 2014 how many vehicles could possibly have gotten 100,000 miles on them in two years? I can't f****** stand liars
I wish the TFL reviews of trucks would focus more on the reason we buy trucks - towing and hauling. If you think about it this review could have been for a car or a cross over or even a station wagon.
I'll happily take either one, if someone else pays for it. But if I'm spending my own money, i would probably just buy a used Nissan. Because the reality is that any truck built in the last 10 years is a pretty good truck. They might not all be luxury trucks, but anyone of them will get me and my tools to the job site. I'll let these other fools spend $50k on a work truck.
Let's see... iron made, heavier, slower, uncomfortable, almost same price and an old design against aluminum made, faster, comfortable, fuel efficient for its size, and very good looking, also, four door Top safety pick on IIHS, guess which is better?
Douglas Aranda i don't like either truck but they are TRUCKS not cars. they are meant for pulling and hauling not for just driving. its so fucking stupid that you idiots think that a truck should be as efficient as a car. Plus the ford isn't more efficient than the dodge its worse so its weight lose means nothing in that sense. And another note, that ram will have better towing than the ford also will be more efficient when towing.
Not mad just proving that Ford isn't what everyone says it is. And yes less fuel for the same or greater distance is better as I said. Thus the Ram ecodiesel is better since it's fuel economy is higher, it's simple fucking math man/boy not rocket science.
+Todd Nansel Um they also use an air-ride suspension but your not going to mention that are ya? I wonder how good an air-ride suspension is for towing? (he asked sarcastically)
FYI diesel is also petroleum, they are both petroleum engine's. The ram is diesel, and the Ford is gasoline, but they are both petroleum based combustible.
This clown is obviously a Ford rep. He spent over half the video driving and speaking highly of the Ford. Why would you do a 0 to 60 test in trucks? If you want to go fast by a car or motorcycle. Put a load in the back or hook up a trailer. Btw- those power mirrors, lights, and other unnecessary accessories in the Ford are available in the ram. Personally, I like simplicity in a truck. I want to make sure I can get the tailgate down when the servos break
How was MSRP so much on the RAM. The HFE model on RAM's site doesn't really have a single option or package. I think it was $36K when all was said and done for a RAM 1500 4x4 diesel quad cab.
The Ford might beat out Ram's interior between these two trucks - but having test driven both the 2015 Platinum and Laramie Longhorn 3/4 ton's, the Ram is a slam dunk.
No, the ram has a better interior, the Ford still suffers from hard cheap plastics in the cabin. the dodge has always and still do have a better quality interiors. every review on the internet says the same. f150 still has a cheap feeling cabin though improved.
+Dreadzedan Good to know. I think this channel is biased at times. I just took delivery of a 2016 Laramie Longhorn with the fancy interior - it's phenomenal.
+GTOAviator This channel is in fact biased , The Ram is much better looking, has a better interior and better suspension , I am a Ford guy but that new f150 is very ugly to me,( I just can't forgive its looks) I'd take a Ram over it All day.
I know that the ecoboost lineup is very impressive but you have to give it to that 3.0L Diesel. They're known to be super long lasting on top of its awesome fuel economy. I figured that it would take just 4 years to pay off the extra cost of the diesel over the Hemi.
Interesting about the MPG. When I went to a Ford Round up and drove the big 3 trucks the guys from ford was pitching that the Eco boost f-150 would get 30mpg and that the Eco diesel was getting poor fuel mileage. Now I know why they wouldn't produce any hard facts.
Diesel is petroleum. biodiesel is made from vegetable oil but regular diesel is made up of petrochemicals that you get when you refine crude oil. Unless I'm mistaken the f-150 is flex fuel so it will run on e 85 which is mostly ethanol which can be made from all kinds of plants that contain natural sugars. So both vehicles can run on petroleum and renewable plant based fuel.
I drove a ford Ecoboost last night on a two hour trip it's one of our new work trucks and the fuel readings don't go with the hype ford is feeding us! Cruse on the whole time on level road was 17.7 and when it started going up hills would drop to 13.8 . This was with no load and cruse on 70. Don't waste your money!
Are you insane put it in drive and don't mash it to the floor until you hit 70 drivw as though you have a small amount of sense and low 20's is all but guaranteed
You guys need to do hey Pentastar 3.6 Ram 1500 vs the F 150 can't believe you haven't done that yet I told ten thousand pounds daily with a 3.6 RAM and it does great
I was laughing at the 2.7L ecoboost until I saw the 0-60 time....
Feels like I watched a FORD commercial
it is
They spoke about the truck that mattered
I’m so stoked to have my f150 xlt 2.7 l was a gmc guy but I’m more than happy with this truck. Best purchase ever
7:32 They were talking bout the F150's exhaust note but the video clip they used was the exhaust from the Ram.
I noticed that as well. TFL you need to correct that-I want to know what the F150's sounds like.
To be fair, in any review they've done of the 2.7, they've never been particularly 'wowed' with the noise it makes.
What makes you think that? The Ram is blue and you can tell the truck the camera is pointed at is gray.
TheCobruhAlienat0r Ram symbol on the wheels is a dead give away. Also tire tread pattern.
Eric M
You can't see the Symbol from that angle. I didn't compare tire tread patterns though.
The most recent data has average diesel cost in the US at $2.936/gal, and gasoline $2.473/gal. What this means is that at 27mpg the Ram running diesel gets you 9.19 miles/dollar, while the Ecoboost gives 9.3 miles/dollar, or another way to look at it is the Ram gets a gas equivalent 22.74 mpg.
You do realize diesel is a petroleum product as well, right?
Don't insert logic where none exists.
i think he meant petrol
Who needs a tailgate that opens with a remote? That isn't going to hold up if its used as a work truck. Are we becoming so lazy that we cannot open up a tailgait anymore?
It's 2015 bro, its called innovation.
It's called an "option". You don't want it, don't pay for it.
Then why are you complaining about it? Let all the "lazy" people get it.
Tailgate remote control means opening it on the move. Which means you can do a military-style air drop 8D
Here's 2 examples: It's pouring rain, you have a couple large items that require both hands. Instead of walking them over, putting them down, opening the tailgate and then picking them back up, you can pop the tailgate, carry them over and pop them in. Another example: You're operating a forklift with a pallet. Instead of having to hop off the forklift, you can press a button and the tailgate will drop. It's the convenience factor
I wish you could still get a full size truck in a manual transmission. You can only get it on mid size trucks and a heavy duty Ram
It seems like the match ups favor Ford when it comes to TFLT.
yes very true and they own a ford raptor go figure
and fords are watered down to shit
Hum, Ford extra cab vs Dodge Double cab. Yea, the guy writing the check is a 4 letter word (FORD).
Thomas Sava You obviously don't watch all the videos... Just because Ford has the best powertrain line up out right now does not mean they are fanboys!
Yeah Nathan is GM fanboy. Roman typically chooses Ford over the rest.
When you said the Ford 2.7 is a petroleum engine, I think you meant to say that it's a gasoline engine. Both diesel and gasoline are petroleum products.
Other than that, great review.
Thanks for everything you guys do. In addition to being a great educational resource, you guys are really entertaining.
Really thought this video was going to have a tug of war test
Wish they didn't compare those 2. Gas vs Diesel isn't a very good competition. Diesel has more torque and MPGs. Gas has more HP. And cheaper.
Ikr
Also diesel has better towing. And the Ram is a six year old truck that still competes!
The point was to show how efficient ford's 2.7 engine is as compared to the Rams Eco diesel engine
'Mashup'
nageorgiou2 Not necessarily. The max rating for the EcoDiesel is around 9,000 lbs. where the 2.7 EcoBoost is max rated at 8,500 lbs. That EcoDiesel should be able to tow more, but you have to look at their configurations as well. Also, the Ram is not a 6 year old truck, it was redesigned not 2 years ago with the diesel being introduced last year.
Just call it a gasoline engine instead of a petroleum engine, and both of them are petroleum engines diesel fuel is just an other petroleum based fuel .
+Stonewall Jackson because its short for "gas"oline
Wow. That 0-60 time is almost as fast as the Roush and Saleen F-150's from a few years ago. Both of which were supercharged V8's. Very impressive
the exhaust note they put in is from the ram look at the centre emblem of the wheel you can see the horn from the ram emblem
2015 F150 EPIC!!!
another great video.. So I'm impressed with the F-150 v6
Just got around to watching this review; because I'm thinking about buying a pickup. Good review... thanks for the comparison and a perspective on V-6s.
finallly i have been waiting for this video
Petroleum the last time I checked both Gas and Diesel are both Petroleum products. They both can or do have corn or soy by products added to it.
True but one can run on shit gas.
Petrol and petroleum are two unique substances. Petrol is refined from petroleum, just like diesel is refined from petroleum.
If Denver ever secedes from the British isles and adopts the american word "gasoline" I think a lot of the confusion between petrol/gasoline and petroleum would go away.
Bob Hope What confusion ? Petroleum refers to both both crude oil and petroleum products. Petrol derives from the French ' petrole ' which comes from the Middle English ( derived from medieval Latin ) ' petroleum '. Or, to put it simply, petrol and petroleum both derive from the same word. The only person confused by petrol/gasoline/petroleum would appear to be yourself.
MrKeyboardCommando Are you so young that you haven't finished your basic schooling or did you drop out? Here is the knowledge you're lacking: auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/alternative-fuels/question105.htm
Petroleum is the unrefined crude oil, petroleum can be refined into many different substances, like gasoline(petrol), diesel, kerosene and many many other substances.
Petrol is a refined petroleum product, just like diesel is a refined petroleum product.
PETROLEUM IS MORE THAN JUST PETROL.
P.S. I wasn't even the original one to make this point, that was Don Hanson. So your comment about me being the only one shows you lack basic comprehension skills.
Bob Hope Bob, I can't help it if the English language doesn't comply with your desires. I'm simply stating what the rest of the world says. Anyway, you said petrol and petroleum were two " unique " ( ??? ) substances. Now you're saying petroleum is petrol. This is exactly the point I'm making. It looks to me like you're talking your usual load of bollocks. You're just a bloody idiot.
Wondering where all that $50K went in the Ram? I asked myself when comparing the 2014 Ram to the 2104 F-150. Similar equipped trucks, the Fords were almost $10k more on average.
Great review roman i like how you said the positives and negatives about the truck.
What i would like to see is real world fuel economy not just the ike gauntlet but city and highway driving.
The 2015 Ford F-150 crew cab has best overall safety rating from the IIHS.
I work at a ford dealership and I can tell you right now that the 2015 Laramie limited has a better interior than fords new platinum f-150. They compared a base model ram to an optioned ford in this test. Of course that specific ram will feel "dated".
THANK YOU Jesus if they're going to compare interiors use the Laramie mega cab, or even go longhorn.
+Jose Mendez the ford of the same general price doesn't even come with carpeted floors and a min touch screen. It's apples to oranges. The 2015 Laramie limited might be the nicest dodge interior I've ever seen in any truck. It's crazy nice not to mention air suspension which automatically lowers when you get out, and all grade A materials.
Lol this is not a base interior on the ram.
noting that the previous F150 with either the Triton 4.6 or the Triton 5.4- This 2.7L Ecoboost out performs both. Both of these trucks are amazing. it just comes to a matter of styling and preference. Last nights Top Gear they used the F150 Raptor and the Silverado Z71 Diesel. They were impressed with both trucks. This made me feel proud because the British Top Gear really disliked American trucks until now, and they are actually considering buying a truck for their personal life. American trucks came a long way and are really good now.
Acuravigor47 That is very true, but then the Chevy did break a drive shaft and couldn't make it up the mountain while the Raptor made it to the top with a flat tire.
Daniel Bell Yeah you are correct, but remember, the Raptor had a full upgrade from Lingelfilter. Suspension, engine and drive shafts to handle the supercharger. The Silverado was completely stock, and not built for that terrain.
Acuravigor47 It was GMs Z71 package. The old mannish way that May drives, it shouldn't have had any problems getting to the top of the mountain vs the maniacal way Clarkson was driving that Raptor.
Daniel Bell The terrain was the same for both of them. Fact is, he had aftermarket suspension and driveshaft's on the Raptor. The Silverado was a stock Z71. Nothing special.
Acuravigor47 Sorry, but you are wrong on this. The Hennessey VelociRaptor 600 used had no such upgrades. The suspension and driveline were stock. Also, that Silverado wasn't a 1500, it was a 2500. There is no reason that driveshaft should've failed.
www.hennesseyperformance.com/2014-ford-raptor-velociraptor600-topgear.html
Roman makes every video super interesting. He could do a review of a toaster from 1972 while totally keeping my interest and giving a few laughs.
I love this video! Wise words have been said
I am extremely happy with my Ecodiesel. I once got 38 mpg going over a mountain pass. It also tows very well and got 15mpg towing 8000 pounds. Air ride suspension is fabulous.
You have between 90,000-110,000 then more than likely you'll be having some very serious issues with your fiat diesel, if its used as a truck
This was a stupid review: they tested them like they were muscle cars. Frankly, I could give a rats patootie what the 0-60 was or the ¼ mile ET; it's a truck for God's sake. Acknowledging that, I would want a steel body over aluminum, but Ford does get cool points for that. To me the 600 pound gorilla is the diesel engine; it's about time an American pickup had a diesel in it. (Dodge had one a while back but it was an import.) I'll wait 'till the trailering test for a real comparison of the two. (Funny, another test I just watched gave the Dodge the edge on the interior; was Dodge set up in this test?
DocLarsen44 this video did seem way overly biased
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agreed, this test was pointless.
+jon doe only place you will go fast is to the gas station, when you put your foot down on the ecoboost, gas issss gone, in a hurry
+DocLarsen44 He sure is short on facts. He keeps calling the Ford a "petroleum" powered engine. Does he not realize diesel is also "petroleum"? He said the Dodge eco-diesel is the only diesel engine available in a full sized truck! What fucking planet is this guy from? I feel embarrassed for clicking on this link.
Someone wrote" They both employ small displacement "Eco" turbocharged engines, but similarities end there."
WRONG.... BOTH have an engine block made of CGI ( compacted graphite iron) from the foundry Tupy. Both are bullet proof. The Swedish company Sintercast is providing Tupy with the high tech for this CGI.
thank god is only you. nice review man,
Is it really hard just to let down the tailgate yourself?
they're doing all they can to drive the price up. that's the way I see it anyway
It's mainly for times when your hands are full and you can't open the tailgate
And the same stupid keyless start, how difficult is it to stick a key in? People been doing that for yrs y’know..
Both gasoline and diesel are petroleum based - aren't they?
$50+k for ordinary pickup trucks? Seems crazy to me.
+Johnny Pea They are, and it made the guy sound like an embicile. Not to mention the comment about how a lot of people drive with gloves on-I don't know a single person that leaves their work gloves on when driving. The guy seems disconnected from reality.
And 50k is definitely on the higher end of the spectrum. I believe the f-150s start around 26.
+idigitalianstuff So does the dodge, but with the upgraded engines, which you can only get in the mid tiers, theyre around 40k single cab. All some options and tax, theyll reach 50k easy.
+Johnny Pea I wonder if Roman has confused that a diesel is a "compression ignition" engine?
+12TreeGaming Regardless, I stand by my words. In this age of heated and cooled cabins, who drives with gloves?? Maybe I'm just numb-nutted, but I don't know a single person that drives with gloves. But then again, I don't associate with pussies so I wouldn't know...
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Good Video Thanks.
Great comparison! By the way, gas and diesel are both petroleum products created during the first thermal cracking of the raw petroleum. They go on to further catalytic crack the long hydrocarbons left over into gasoline. A standard barrel of petroleum is 42 gallons. More than half is refined into gasoline.
It's easy to give a knock on the interior of the dodge when you clearly have the lariat f-150 and not the comparable larime ram 1500.
True. My Laramie has the two-tone brown interior, and it looks a lot better. Also, I would never Armorall the interior as they did. Jeez, it makes it look so 1980. Oddly, he talked about the controls on the RAM but never showed them.
Mic drop!
@@matthewspaulding620 well comparing the price difference it seems pretty fair to me
ok, so, kodose to ram for 27 MPG, but mide you its a diesel, so, ram has 27 HY, Ford has 23 HY, lets say you thake a 100 mile HY trip.
in ram, that's 100/27(MPG)=3.7(Gallons of fuel)
so then 3.7x3.0(Dollars of diesel fuel here in FL)=$11.11 to do the trip,
with ford, 100/23(MPG)=4.34(Gallons of fuel)
so then 4.34x2.20(Price of reg gas in FL)=$9.56 dollars to take the trip,
so, with less fuel economy, ford is cheaper to drive than the dodge. and $1.55 can add up over the life time of the truck.
longevity is on the diesels side..... but the maintenance is more expensive plus the DEF..don't forget to add that in there (not sure if that applies to the small diesels)
Guy sr Not with the current emissions systems choking the shit out of them.
Plus the $4000 premium for the diesel engine vs. the $700 price for the EcoBoost. Guy sr
and, over a life of say 200,000 miles, the fords estimated cost of fuel is $19,130 total. dodge is $22,222, for those with out a calculator, the ford is $3,092 CHEAPER on gas over a 200,000 mile life time.
I takes a LONG time to make up the difference with the added cost of the engine option alone. The window sticker for the ram Eco is 22 mpg's combined and the F150 is 20 combined. Here the math on fuel alone. NO DEF or oil changes.
National average on Gas is $2.27
National average on Diesel is $2.86
Ram 12k a year Fuel COST is 1558
F150 12k a year Gas cost is 1362
This video in 4K on a Samsung smart TV looks absolutely extraordinary.
Traded my Ram ecodiesel today for a Ford 2.7 eco boost. I had no complaints about the Ram I'm just a Ford guy. The Ram was a good truck.
6:49 How is a locking tailgate out of dodge's playbook? Ford has been doing locking tailgates since '97.
he means from the key fob when u lock all the doors it locks the tailgate as well u dont have to use the actual key
The way he says it implies that they did copy the lock from Dodge. I guess I wouldn't know if the fob release button is on either of them.
It's obvious where the extra money goes in the Ram. It's a longer cab and the engine and transmission accounts for $4000 extra dollars. Ford trucks are generally the most expensive in their brackets.You guys should say which trim levels you're testing and not reuse footage from other videos.
The ford was a Lariat and the Ram was an Outdoorsman
The02CumminsRAM These are comparable trim levels, the ecodiesel is an expensive option, the 2.7 is not. A good chunk of the cost is that you cannot buy this truck with a diesel without getting the expensive 8 speed transmission. If you go the ram website, the 3.6L pentstar with the 8 speed is actually MORE expensive than the Hemi with the 5 speed.
They're not comparable trims the Lariat is equal to the Laramie and the outdoorsman would be more equal to a XLT. Now what options you add to those trims is what can throw off the prices
Fair enough, I was mistaken.
And fiat being involved automatically makes it 20% more expensive.
The exhaust sound claimed to be Ford was of the dodge diesel .
Something to take into consideration aside from the admission price of getting an ecodiesel over the same equipped Hemi truck. Although it costs about $3500 msrp over the Hemi, the actual sale price can be a $10,000 difference, because Ram discounts the hemis a lot more than the ecodiesel. $10k buys a lot of gasoline. Also factor in maintenance cost, and this will go for hemi, or the ecoboost vs ecodiesel.
Hard to get a warranty approved oil change done on the ecodiesel for less than $200, you can do an oil change on the Ford for the price of the ecodiesel oil filter. DPF fluid consumption, and check how much a transmission filter change costs for the Ram 8speed. Just food for thought.
$47k for the Ford and it doesn't even have a bedliner?
The last time I checked, diesel is a petroleum product. The Ford is a gasoline engine.
Great review. Would you consider doing tfltalks telling us which vehicles you would buy for yourselves in different categories again? You, Nathan, Emme and Andre for tflcar and You, Nathan, Kent for tfltruck. Just a thought. Not sure if that would get y'all in trouble with the manufacturers or not. I love the passion and dedication you all have and would definitely like to meet the crew when I get to Colorado.
well to be fair to the ram it's now the oldest design out of all the half ton trucks. So it is dated in that sense compared to the new Silverado, new F150, new Tundra and even new Titan, but with that said it still looks modern.
One shouldn't expect a deep, throaty exhaust note from a 2.7 liter V6. Come on, Roman.
i bet flowmasters sound great.. especially with that turbo
i heard a ecoboost with straight pipes the other day. sounded like dog shit
i could imagine lmfao
On long trips the Ecodiesel actually gets about 33 mpg on the highway.
I have gotten 32.9 calculated on mine, and that was within a month of purchase. Around town (combined) it's closer to 26.
I got 28.5 cross country. Take into account the speed limits, 85,80,75,70 mph.
hell that's even better than my 4cyl Ranger, which sacrifices all performance for mileage
I had a new '87 Mitsubishi SPX 2wd (very rare) with the 4-cyl 2.6L MCA jet engine. Smooth, but I doubt I ever got north of 25 mpg. Usually in the teens.
My 16 only got 27.5
This is nothing more than a ford commercial. Possibly the least unbiased review I have EVER watched
Always fun to watch TFL review new trucks. Downside is they never really do apples to apples. If you're going to compare aesthetics, such as the interior of a vehicle, you should consider the trim levels. Lariat to Outdoorsman? The Lariat would win hands down. The upper trims of a Ram do not seem dated, unless you're in a trim below Laramie. I'm sure the XLT trims will have dated plastics too.
a 2015 truck vs a 2013 truck really how is this even fair
Seems to be their MO I'm pretty sure Ford writes their checks.
the Ford can lose all kind of awards it wouldn't matter Ford will always be in my heart for will always be my choice Ford 4 life life life life
+Mike Jones It may lose all the awards, but that isn't because other vehicles are more deserving. It's because whoever hands out these awards are idiots.
I guess love is blind.....
Mike Jones nobody cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ll take Tundra all day any day!!!!
Both trucks are great. I cant help but wonder why it took so long for the truck market to get here though. It took this long for them to finally provide a true quality product. I can only hope that they keep raising the bar, and not the price.
The fast lane truck: I think it's a better addition if you guys start to add the as tested price under the video details.
Thanks for the hard work
I think Ford is running away from the competition. They are in their own league.
Uncle Deez that's not true. These trucks don't even compare. That's like comparing a ram 2500 cummins vs a F150 3.5 ecoboost......the ford is faster but other than that the ram fucks the ford up in every way. Also wait ten years I bet you'll see all those rusted out warped shit aluminum "trucks" that have holes in the body that are rotting underneath because they can't take punishment steel can. It may be heavier and slower but it can tow more and it will outlast the ford easily. Plus your talking about a 7 year old truck vs one that's been completely redesigned...way t until the new ram comes out it's going to blow the doors off the f150. It's going to have turbo engine choices as well...2.0 turbo base engine with 325 horsepower. Much better economy than the 2.7
1.) These aren't trucks. 2.) Aluminum doesn't rust.
It's an aluminum alloy and yes it does rust.
Well it corrodes. It's a different process but it does fall apart. Especially in higher ph situations. The salt they use on the roads where I live will corrode it to shit
lol. Okay.
You're comparing apples to bananas. I like your videos but this was not thought out very well.
Edmunds actually did long term tests for each of these trucks. While they did encounter one engine stall issue along the way, they apparently approved its mileage and performance and gave it 4.5/5 stars. While the F-150 didn't have the same engine issue, general maintenance like oil changes was complicated and it seems they weren't impressed by the mileage and apparently the 5L V8 version actually got slightly better mileage. They gave it a 4/5 stars.
do you have the video for that
+crazy wheel no video but go to their site and read the long term extended reviews for each truck
+BashMonkeyRC okay
Ram 1500 Hemi should have been included as well because that one matches this F150 very well on power figures...
if cummins made a an engine to shove in the ram 1500s it would dominate
then its an entirety different truck. Ram and Chevy have been trying to copy ford for years with their "rebel" and "reaper" ripoffs. they're just poor chores of the raptor. and now ford has once again introduced something new and i give it 3 years before team and Chevy move to aluminum bodies.
Cummins did make an engine for the 1500. The 5L V8. Short of pushing it off a cliff with a tailwind in the bargain, it could never pass 24 MPG. FCA already had a proven engine available from VM Motori, so they said, "pass." Cummins was shocked, but really, they've had enough (more than enough) time to learn how to build modern efficient compact diesels. They finally found a sucker, er, buyer in Nissan. They'll be damned lucky to recoup the dev costs.
didnt they put them in the new toyotas?
$50,000 for that sub-par Dodge? They've disappointed me.
AshtonColeman i agree there, it should have been 10k less, if it's not equipped.
*Ram it's not part of the Dodge line anymore.
Is the 2 mpg average advantage the ram has actually an advantage after you factor in the higher price of diesel?
+The Fast Lane Truck , It a gasoline versus diesel. They are both petroleum. Just to clarify ;)
one is 4 doors the other is 2 doors...
+sun and moon 2 door with half doors, actually.
I wish chrysler weren't ever owned by Mercedes! If they weren't, the diesel in the new Titan would be in the 1500 Ram!!!
Wasn't owned*
Owned by fiat... You have them to thank for the approval of the hellcat BTW... Fiat only did good things to this brand
x10cobra If Daimler A&G still owned Chrysler they'd be dead. Fiat is doing great things. As sad as it may be it's true.
Cadillac Car Guy They were doing a pretty good job of killing Chrysler off anyway. It's exciting to see where Fiat is taking them, but I do wish they could've stayed in American hands.
Daniel Bell Soon enough GM will be dead and so will Ford they all will probably just combine into a mega company but definitely not in the near or far future probably like 2200 or something.
I’ve driven both and picked the f150 with the 3.5. Glad I did, friend of mine tows a similar trailer to mine and when on steep grades his ram struggles to maintain speed even with the 8 speed trans. My ecoboost with or without my tube maintains speed without much of any downshifting and in fact easily picks up speed. I love the idea but to small of a diesel for this size truck put a 4.2 litre with some more ass to it and I would get one.
lol love how he says "deesell"
every car critic says the ram is better so i dumped my f150 for a ram and it was the best decision i have ever made
Joel Repass Judas u God damn traitor !!!!!
EcoDiesels are failing shortly over 100K miles. MAJOR FAILURE. Cam gear slips on the camshaft, since they did not bother with a spline or keyway... only bolt tension holds it. It slips, comes out of time.. valves hit pistons BOOM.... And you looking at BIG BIG bucks. Strangely this is not a new engine.. It's been used in europe for a while seemingly decen reliability.
If it was me, I would take the 2.7 or 3.5 Ecoboost or the 5.0... if I needed to tow. I might buy the BASE Ram 3.6 engine. If I just needed a lighter duty work truck. The 3.6 Pentastar in the Ram with that 8spd ZF Trans is pretty nice for just driving around, and gives 25MPG.
+kens97sto171 I would choose the 5.0 over the ecoboost all day I mean failed turbos and shit fuel mileage out the 3.5 is pointless if you tow. But if I tow a lot which I do I would go Cummins and have no problems. Half tons are only good for light towing and around town.
+svt89
failed turbos would not worry me, but just the added complexity of making all that work as the years pass. I'd agree with the 5.0 choice.
I think the 3.5 can tow more than the 5.0
and a Cummins powered truck is way overkill for my needs... awesome engine though.
the base v6 in the Ram with the 8spd runs way nicer than the base v6 in the Ford.
just not sure if trust a Chrysler product right now.
kens97sto171 I've owned plenty of Ford,GM, and Chrysler products and Ford would have to be 3rd on the list of reliability haven't been impressed with any of there diesels at all was impressed with my 5.0 mustang though. And the 3.5 eco is no good if its in the shop all the time and can't pass up a gas station lol !
+svt89
The last decent Ford Diesel was the 7.3 next 2 were garbage, and too soon for the current one to know.
have you heard about bad stuff on the 3.5?
and I agree the 5.0 is pretty nice.
I'm leaning towards a base Tradesman RAM with the 3.7 V6. plenty of power for my needs, and 25MPG or better HWY.
what issues have you had with the various brands?
please show me what proof you have of eco diesels failing shortly over 100,000 miles they just came out in 2014 how many vehicles could possibly have gotten 100,000 miles on them in two years? I can't f****** stand liars
I wonder if TFL has ever had a truck/suv/car break down on set before?
I wish the TFL reviews of trucks would focus more on the reason we buy trucks - towing and hauling. If you think about it this review could have been for a car or a cross over or even a station wagon.
I'll take the RAM any day.
***** Same, and no kidding!
The new F-150's interior takes the rental car award, previously held by the Chevrolet Impala!
I'll happily take either one, if someone else pays for it. But if I'm spending my own money, i would probably just buy a used Nissan. Because the reality is that any truck built in the last 10 years is a pretty good truck. They might not all be luxury trucks, but anyone of them will get me and my tools to the job site. I'll let these other fools spend $50k on a work truck.
Yo TF its still a good look
Maybe because there's nothing wrong with the way it looks
Same here buddy dodge and Chevy all day
Let's see... iron made, heavier, slower, uncomfortable, almost same price and an old design against aluminum made, faster, comfortable, fuel efficient for its size, and very good looking, also, four door Top safety pick on IIHS, guess which is better?
Douglas Aranda i don't like either truck but they are TRUCKS not cars. they are meant for pulling and hauling not for just driving. its so fucking stupid that you idiots think that a truck should be as efficient as a car. Plus the ford isn't more efficient than the dodge its worse so its weight lose means nothing in that sense. And another note, that ram will have better towing than the ford also will be more efficient when towing.
Trenton Archer Nah, you're just mad. If you can pull more with less fuel means you have more money at the end.
Not mad just proving that Ford isn't what everyone says it is. And yes less fuel for the same or greater distance is better as I said. Thus the Ram ecodiesel is better since it's fuel economy is higher, it's simple fucking math man/boy not rocket science.
+Trenton Archer coil spring are what Fiat puts in the rear of a Ram smh if you think that's better towing.
+Todd Nansel Um they also use an air-ride suspension but your not going to mention that are ya? I wonder how good an air-ride suspension is for towing? (he asked sarcastically)
FYI diesel is also petroleum, they are both petroleum engine's. The ram is diesel, and the Ford is gasoline, but they are both petroleum based combustible.
Always win when it comes to a ford! Built ford tough!!! Best company in America and throughout the would
Please quit reusing. Footage from a previous. Episode. Disappointing guys.
I truly cannot stand this guy.
Keep your comments to yourself! !!
Exhaust note that you said sucked for Ford (7:38) was actually the Rams exhaust you recorded.
There was so much screaming for diesel 1500 series trucks, now let's see if people are truly willing to buy them. My bet is no due to simple math.
That dodge will be rusted out in 4 years
I would agree they always use cheap parts to make their cars and it doesn't last long.
No it won't. The bodies are galvanized steel. Look stuff up before posting ignorant comments on here
+GP9railfan But it will rust out. Another reason the F150 is made out of aluminum now.
+OneworldOnelove36
Like I said, Ram uses galvanized steel.body panels. Your precious F-150 body will be a pile of oxidized powder well before the ram.
PardenBoyz uneducated
This clown is obviously a Ford rep. He spent over half the video driving and speaking highly of the Ford.
Why would you do a 0 to 60 test in trucks? If you want to go fast by a car or motorcycle. Put a load in the back or hook up a trailer.
Btw- those power mirrors, lights, and other unnecessary accessories in the Ford are available in the ram.
Personally, I like simplicity in a truck. I want to make sure I can get the tailgate down when the servos break
How was MSRP so much on the RAM. The HFE model on RAM's site doesn't really have a single option or package. I think it was $36K when all was said and done for a RAM 1500 4x4 diesel quad cab.
Nice
7:36 that was the rams exhaust not the fords.
Can't wait for the Ike gauntlet videos. Time will tell if those 2.7l ecoboosts hold up...
What were your mpg for the 2.7? My buddy just bought one and it is the same as my hemi driving it with some fun! Not so good....
Ifin you keep it to the floor....sure, you get eco or boost not both at the same time, but when it's eco it is outstanding
good review, i'm in the market for a '15 F150, longbed, standard cab which is not white in color. Yes it's for work.
apples vs oranges again with TFLT
The Ford might beat out Ram's interior between these two trucks - but having test driven both the 2015 Platinum and Laramie Longhorn 3/4 ton's, the Ram is a slam dunk.
No, the ram has a better interior, the Ford still suffers from hard cheap plastics in the cabin. the dodge has always and still do have a better quality interiors. every review on the internet says the same. f150 still has a cheap feeling cabin though improved.
+Dreadzedan Good to know. I think this channel is biased at times. I just took delivery of a 2016 Laramie Longhorn with the fancy interior - it's phenomenal.
+GTOAviator This channel is in fact biased , The Ram is much better looking, has a better interior and better suspension , I am a Ford guy but that new f150 is very ugly to me,( I just can't forgive its looks) I'd take a Ram over it All day.
Fiat loves your comments
+Todd Nansel Who cares? If the RAM is so much better, maybe Ford should catch up.
I dont know why you guys show us some the videos we have already seen
I know that the ecoboost lineup is very impressive but you have to give it to that 3.0L Diesel. They're known to be super long lasting on top of its awesome fuel economy. I figured that it would take just 4 years to pay off the extra cost of the diesel over the Hemi.
The ecodeisel is not known for being long-term motor
Interesting about the MPG. When I went to a Ford Round up and drove the big 3 trucks the guys from ford was pitching that the Eco boost f-150 would get 30mpg and that the Eco diesel was getting poor fuel mileage. Now I know why they wouldn't produce any hard facts.
People who want a truck for work, get a ram. People want a truck to use as a car , get a ford.
Diesel is petroleum. biodiesel is made from vegetable oil but regular diesel is made up of petrochemicals that you get when you refine crude oil. Unless I'm mistaken the f-150 is flex fuel so it will run on e 85 which is mostly ethanol which can be made from all kinds of plants that contain natural sugars. So both vehicles can run on petroleum and renewable plant based fuel.
I drove a ford Ecoboost last night on a two hour trip it's one of our new work trucks and the fuel readings don't go with the hype ford is feeding us! Cruse on the whole time on level road was 17.7 and when it started going up hills would drop to 13.8 . This was with no load and cruse on 70. Don't waste your money!
Are you insane put it in drive and don't mash it to the floor until you hit 70 drivw as though you have a small amount of sense and low 20's is all but guaranteed
@charles powers
You should release the parking brake next time, it does wonders for mpg
You guys need to do hey Pentastar 3.6 Ram 1500 vs the F 150 can't believe you haven't done that yet I told ten thousand pounds daily with a 3.6 RAM and it does great
The absolute most you can tow with the 3.6 with all the tow pkgs thrown on it is 6750 lbs
The clip for the Ford exhaust was the Ram.
Which model of F150 are you testing, is it an XLT, a Lariat, Limited, Platinum?
Give us some snow drive!