Funny.....if the roles were reversed, if it was Lamar, it would be a different story. The Benglas were an early team expected that they could make it to the AFC championship game, now them barely making the playoffs...isn't a failure? Come on, mannnnn!
King Henry reason Lamar is successful lmao Steve Young Joe Montana Kurt Warner Tom Brady Patrick Mahomes Payton Manning John Elway won Super Bowls all had dominate RB & WR
@@andretillman5291funny that narrative has took a complete 180 why Lamar is successful the first year Lamar Jackson finally has help on offense like as if 2018 to 2023 never happened lol, ppl just don't want Lamar Jackson to succeed that's all that is!!!!
@@andretillman5291but this is Lamars first year having a stud RB that makes no sense he already has 2 MVPs without Henry. This is also Henrys best season ever in a long time pretty sure EVERYONE passed on him because he was washed. Joe burrow has 2 studs at WR both are as good at their position as Henry is at his position
@@andretillman5291 Bro what are you talking about? This has nothing to do with King Henry. The Ravens have always had a potent running game. It’s what they do and who they are. As long as Lamar is in the NFL, the Ravens will legitimately be a playoff team for the rest of his career. That’s how confident I am about him. He’s one of the most humblest athletes out there who just want to win and make everyone around him better! Presently, it shows!
Man Lamar had the same defense to begin the season and had the ravens in the playoffs. Joe Burrow couldn’t win one shoot out and that’s why they’re in this position. Lamar defense didn’t play well until week 11-12. No excuses on not making the playoffs at the very least. That’s what a top 5 QB supposed to do when he has the best receiving group in the national football league. Win at least 1-2 shootouts and he hasn’t done that all year. Also score more than 10 points against the patriots.
@@24cam_ yea I seen the losses. What I am saying is Baltimore has not been ranked 29th in scoring defense all year. The bengals has been ranked between 28th and 30th throughout the whole season.
I don't know why they are even voting ? There is no match for Lamar Jackson. How can there be a vote? If the numbers were equal ok but Lamar Jackson is far ahead.
Apparently we ain’t missing it Mr.clown so what’s there to even brought this up!? No life for hating just enjoy your sorry team cause they ain’t going nowhere. 😂
When Lamar is healthy he wins the division! The Bengals won the North only when Lamar was injured! The Bengals were supposed to fight for the North Title! The Bengals had an easier schedule than the Ravens and are fighting for a 7th seed!
@@doge-isbetterthandogs7979 Ravens literally the most penalized team in the league & all 5 of our losses are a combined 22 points. tucker has missed 22 points worth of kicks lol so that excuse doesn’t work either. try again.
@@Semperityy *NO* lies detected. The Ravens were #32 in pass defense up until week 10. Then finally they inevitably made personnel changes. Mainly, both safeties Marcus Williams & Eddie Jackson. Now here we are.
The Ravens defense was just as bad as the Bengals and their Special Teams was worse and they’re the most penalized team. Lamar is better than Burrow is and those slow starts are on Burtow as well!
Lamar Jacksons defense was the worst in the league through 10 weeks and he still found a way to get 10 wins. Joe Burrow has elite weapons on the offensive side of the ball. The difference is Jackson Allen Mahomes have found ways to win because even though Burrows defense has been putrid he's had opportunities to pull out wins in alot of games.
@@Semperityy Pat was going to the Super Bowl or afc championship when the chiefs had the worst defense In the league having to score 40 to win … and Joe get a pass is crazy
if you pass for 5500 yrd and 60 tds but only won 7 of 17 games... that would be a failure. as shannon sharpe would say "empty calories" and "stats are for losers".
The NFL and these other quarterbacks are lucky as hell Lamar ain't really going hard to separate himself from other quarterbacks. If Lamar really wanted to get surgical widdit...he could rush for more yards than Saquon and anyone else for that matter. The addition of Derrick Henry has diminished Lamars rushing numbers a bit because he now has a dominant back to take some of the load off....PLUS having a running QB is a dicey proposition because there's always more susceptibility to injury.... Now the toughest part to me for Lamar will be deciding in game time situations on whether to run or pass. I like Burrow BUT he doesn't have the team success of Josh and Lamar.
Realest comment. Last 2 games lamar sitting at the end of the 3rd Qtr. Sat out the 4th Qtr in the Bills game. This season alone he sat out at least 7 Qtrs..CRAZY. MVP or Not, He has to take over the games in the playoffs because Harbaugh has shown a propensity to abandon what works..
Bruhhhh, don't give me Cincy defense this n that. They legit lost to every playoff team they faced, minus the bum Patriots. They act like the Cincy defense giving up points to bums left n right. Most of their wins are against losing teams, and they clearly won those games. Just keep it honest when they face playoff teams they come up short, That's a failure of a season.
Burrows have so many more attempted passes than lamar, and lamar still has better numbers. If lamar had these many attempts, he would have 55 tds by now. Dude has 2 elite WRs, and he still can't get the job done.
The amount of excuses and 'What ifs' they afford the Bengals are astounding. What if Justin Tucker didint miss 20 plus fields goals. , the ravens wouldve only loss 1 game. Based on RECORD, Josh Allen is the MVP. Based on numbers and strength of Schedule is Lamar. Burrow in the MVP conversation is just for clicks.
This is crazy. The very definition of media controlling the narrative and privilege. All this Burrow and Allen drama. Goff has the best record, better completions, and his team lost 16 starters to IR. The MVP should be between Lamar, Goff, Allen. Likes stop the Burrow narrative. He didn't make the playoffs and his stats are not better than Lamar's.
Lamar Jackson hasn’t been not to one Super Bowl with two mvps Joe hasn’t got one mvp but has been to the Super Bowl so that mean he is the better quarterback
Funny.....if the roles were reversed, if it was Lamar, it would be a different story. The Benglas were an early team expected that they could make it to the AFC championship game, now them barely making the playoffs...isn't a failure? Come on, mannnnn!
King Henry reason Lamar is successful lmao Steve Young Joe Montana Kurt Warner Tom Brady Patrick Mahomes Payton Manning John Elway won Super Bowls all had dominate RB & WR
@@andretillman5291funny that narrative has took a complete 180 why Lamar is successful the first year Lamar Jackson finally has help on offense like as if 2018 to 2023 never happened lol, ppl just don't want Lamar Jackson to succeed that's all that is!!!!
@ say dawg when you name 5 different Super Bowl quarterbacks within the last 25 years they all had dominant RB & WR
@@andretillman5291but this is Lamars first year having a stud RB that makes no sense he already has 2 MVPs without Henry. This is also Henrys best season ever in a long time pretty sure EVERYONE passed on him because he was washed. Joe burrow has 2 studs at WR both are as good at their position as Henry is at his position
@@andretillman5291 Bro what are you talking about? This has nothing to do with King Henry. The Ravens have always had a potent running game. It’s what they do and who they are. As long as Lamar is in the NFL, the Ravens will legitimately be a playoff team for the rest of his career. That’s how confident I am about him. He’s one of the most humblest athletes out there who just want to win and make everyone around him better! Presently, it shows!
Man Lamar had the same defense to begin the season and had the ravens in the playoffs.
Joe Burrow couldn’t win one shoot out and that’s why they’re in this position.
Lamar defense didn’t play well until week 11-12.
No excuses on not making the playoffs at the very least. That’s what a top 5 QB supposed to do when he has the best receiving group in the national football league. Win at least 1-2 shootouts and he hasn’t done that all year.
Also score more than 10 points against the patriots.
@@GoddeKnows facts
Probably because Lamar’s defense has finished 12th in ppg and the bengals are 29th in ppg. Get real dude they were not in the same position my guy.
@@513ovaeverything7they were in the same spot. You clearly didn't see how they lost to the browns & raiders
@@24cam_ yea I seen the losses. What I am saying is Baltimore has not been ranked 29th in scoring defense all year. The bengals has been ranked between 28th and 30th throughout the whole season.
word they definitely was losing games for them early
The glaze for white qbs is diabolical
I'm a white Lamar fan who lives in bmore and you are correct. It's weird to see blk men doing it.
@edreedson respect bro it's a real vs fake world now
I don't know why they are even voting ? There is no match for Lamar Jackson. How can there be a vote? If the numbers were equal ok but Lamar Jackson is far ahead.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Lamar been in the playoffs since he's been a starter 😂
Imagine if Lamar missed the playoffs🤣🤣
This season clearly shows no signs of Lamar ever missing the playoffs
They would say "Lamar has *NO* excuses." You already know. 🤦🏾🤦🏾♂🤦🏾♀
Apparently we ain’t missing it Mr.clown so what’s there to even brought this up!? No life for hating just enjoy your sorry team cause they ain’t going nowhere. 😂
Obviously it’s a failure. wtf kinda question is this
Every season there is one successful team and 31 teams that fail.
@@edwinhenry7531 ok so you agree
If Lamar didn’t make the playoffs y’all would kill him. His defense been sorry all year where was his excuse lol
Exactly
When Lamar is healthy he wins the division! The Bengals won the North only when Lamar was injured! The Bengals were supposed to fight for the North Title! The Bengals had an easier schedule than the Ravens and are fighting for a 7th seed!
MVP MV3 EASILY 🎯💪💯... It's a No brainer
Drew Brees & Matthew Stafford had 5,000+ yard seasons and didn't make the playoffs. Nothin' new. Miss me wit' the "hypotheticals."
Lamar had the ravens 7-3 with the worst defense in the league
@@emmanuelprice9539 it isn’t just bad defense with Cincy. It’s missed kicks and a couple bad calls, that went against them (against KC)
@@doge-isbetterthandogs7979 Ravens literally the most penalized team in the league & all 5 of our losses are a combined 22 points. tucker has missed 22 points worth of kicks lol so that excuse doesn’t work either. try again.
@@Semperityy *NO* lies detected. The Ravens were #32 in pass defense up until week 10. Then finally they inevitably made personnel changes. Mainly, both safeties Marcus Williams & Eddie Jackson. Now here we are.
The Ravens defense was just as bad as the Bengals and their Special Teams was worse and they’re the most penalized team. Lamar is better than Burrow is and those slow starts are on Burtow as well!
@ you’d have to be dumb as hell, to actually believe this? Tucker was blowing games for the Ravens? Wtf are you yapping about?
Lamar Jacksons defense was the worst in the league through 10 weeks and he still found a way to get 10 wins. Joe Burrow has elite weapons on the offensive side of the ball. The difference is Jackson Allen Mahomes have found ways to win because even though Burrows defense has been putrid he's had opportunities to pull out wins in alot of games.
I don’t mind Joe and Josh getting grace from the commentators. What bothers me is the degree to which they give them grace is never given to Lamar.
What a dumb conversation lol
@@Semperityy Pat was going to the Super Bowl or afc championship when the chiefs had the worst defense In the league having to score 40 to win … and Joe get a pass is crazy
if you pass for 5500 yrd and 60 tds but only won 7 of 17 games... that would be a failure. as shannon sharpe would say "empty calories" and "stats are for losers".
The NFL and these other quarterbacks are lucky as hell Lamar ain't really going hard to separate himself from other quarterbacks.
If Lamar really wanted to get surgical widdit...he could rush for more yards than Saquon and anyone else for that matter.
The addition of Derrick Henry has diminished Lamars rushing numbers a bit because he now has a dominant back to take some of the load off....PLUS having a running QB is a dicey proposition because there's always more susceptibility to injury....
Now the toughest part to me for Lamar will be deciding in game time situations on whether to run or pass.
I like Burrow BUT he doesn't have the team success of Josh and Lamar.
Realest comment. Last 2 games lamar sitting at the end of the 3rd Qtr. Sat out the 4th Qtr in the Bills game. This season alone he sat out at least 7 Qtrs..CRAZY.
MVP or Not, He has to take over the games in the playoffs because Harbaugh has shown a propensity to abandon what works..
@dotdottheconnector8795 wow I didn't know it was that many... Very good point... Thanks for letting me know.
Bruhhhh, don't give me Cincy defense this n that. They legit lost to every playoff team they faced, minus the bum Patriots. They act like the Cincy defense giving up points to bums left n right. Most of their wins are against losing teams, and they clearly won those games. Just keep it honest when they face playoff teams they come up short, That's a failure of a season.
Burrows have so many more attempted passes than lamar, and lamar still has better numbers. If lamar had these many attempts, he would have 55 tds by now. Dude has 2 elite WRs, and he still can't get the job done.
The amount of excuses and 'What ifs' they afford the Bengals are astounding.
What if Justin Tucker didint miss 20 plus fields goals. , the ravens wouldve only loss 1 game.
Based on RECORD, Josh Allen is the MVP.
Based on numbers and strength of Schedule is Lamar. Burrow in the MVP conversation is just for clicks.
This is crazy. The very definition of media controlling the narrative and privilege. All this Burrow and Allen drama. Goff has the best record, better completions, and his team lost 16 starters to IR. The MVP should be between Lamar, Goff, Allen. Likes stop the Burrow narrative. He didn't make the playoffs and his stats are not better than Lamar's.
This is all going to end up being very anticlimactic when they miss the playoffs.
@@Yepsuredid facts
How not going to the playoff is not a failure.
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Lamar Jackson hasn’t been not to one Super Bowl with two mvps Joe hasn’t got one mvp but has been to the Super Bowl so that mean he is the better quarterback
Say dawg it’s krazy
Where is Shae fools?🤦🏿♂️👿🥹
Well at.least borrow went to the superbowl...lamar?
Lamar not on burrow level regardless of your argument Lamar afraid to take risks in big games they always choke
Buggin but do you
Why does record say otherwise. You act like burrows stats are way better or something
Also peep the weapons burrow has.
Not on his level, but burrows consistently loses to him and has only made deep playoff runs the years Lamar got injured. You sound crazy
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