Fun fact to add to this: Yuri Krivonischenko worked for Mayak (nuclear facility) and helped clean up the Kyshtym disaster (1957). I don’t know how safe working conditions were in nuclear plants in Soviet-era Russia (I’m assuming not great!), so there is a possibility that the radiation that was found at the site of the incident came from Krivonishenko and his belongings.
There is a good in depth investigation and explanation here document.wikireading.ru/6952. Though it is in russian, but easily translated by google. In short, all four sample of clothes with radiation were found near or in spring with significant amount of dirt. More dirt - more radiation. It looks like leftovers of nuclear explosions that were actively conducted by USSR at that time. But anyway, the main puzzle was why prosecutor insisted on radiological examination, considering that incident was not related to radiation at all and there were any evidence of that.
@@serch3ster that doesn't really make sense though the woman and the two men whose tongues and eyes were ripped out had buried themselves under the snow because the strong wind and the cold would have killed them and by burying themselves their chances of survival increased because of their body heat. I don't think that animals could have eaten parts of their bodies because of that. Also her tongue didn't look like it was eaten or something like that it looked like it was ripped out pulled out of her mouth by force while she was propably still alive
@@blueeeer also radioactive on their clothing plus yellow glow seen by other hikers in the dead mountain that day. All these is a new coverup by government.
@@blueeeer Well an animal could have ripped the tongue out with its teeth. Probably more likely than just taking a bite out of it. How do you know they that they burried themselves? It could have accumulated on top of Them after death. Its pretty obvious what happened to then now. This is no konger a conspiracy.
@@RacmusDK I don't believe this is a conspiracy nor am I 100% sure whether they buried themselves or it was just the snow covering them after they died . From what Ive heard they were the most clothed and because the others where not, people think that they took the clothes from the bodies left behind . The cold and the wind could have still easily killed them though still. It's just speculation and it makes sense that they buried themselves in order to survive . It's actually taught to mountain explorers that it is best to bury yourself than stay exposed to the wind . By burying yourself your body warmth helps you survive cause you're in a small enclosed space. So I think that it is possible that they realised the danger of staying unprotected in the cold and buried themselves in order to survive but it's also possible that the snow covered them afterwards I don't know. Even if they actually buried themselves that doesn't change anything the cold was still able to overpower them and they died from it. And if they died and then the snow covered them then it's still the same the only difference is that they propably lived some minutes longer in the first scenario. Literally changes no evidence or theories .I don't know anything beyond that and I do not believe that Bigfoot, aliens or a conspiracy is somehow involved I don't know what could have caused their injuries, animals eating them does make sense though I just thought an animal like some kinda fox or wolf could have easily ripped them out (they propably live there although I'm not sure the point is that it had to be of some size) that's why I don't think it was birds bugs or critters I don't think they would be able to rip them out with the force needed . Maybe I should have worded the previous comment better
@@Trevonious95 lemmino’s theory is based around the assumption that they set up the stove that night and it caught the tent on fire and smoked them out. The tent wasn’t burned and they never used the stove that night.
Probably climbed the tree to spot other members or to see if any one was walking past. Burn marks because he probably got very close to a fire they tried to light to keep warm due to having no clothes
he didnt have burn marks, he had severe frostbite due to hypothermia making him want to take his clothes off, as it seemingly feels very warm despite being incredibly cold. dont know where youre getting that one from
@@saouer At least Krivonischenko had burn marks according to the results of original forensic-medical examination. In some places he had burnt out till the bones. Unfortunately, this information is absent in English Wiki version.
@Stabil That is impossible, because they haven't even started fire in their stovekitchen. And please note that Krivonischenko was found a mile away from their stovekitchen.
Do you know they were so impressed with snow animations in Frozen that they had a meeting with the Frozen animator to recreate the scene and solve this cold case with it
Frozen didn’t solve anything. people around the Ural Mountains (and snowy places in general!) have known about snow slabs for years. Is a diagram of a snow slab interesting, and could it put the effects of such thing in perspective? Yes. But did the creators of Frozen bring anything new to the table? No.
It wasn't an avalanche. The injuries to the three at the ravine happened near or at the ravine, over a mile from the tent. The two with the rib injuries, according to the medical examiner, would have survived less than 30 minutes. The hiker with the head injury would have been rendered unconscious immediately and would have died an hour later. Are we expected to believe that they received massive injuries at the tent, dug their way out, and then walked barefoot 1500 meters to the cedar below after which they then made their way an additional 50 meters down into a deep ravine where they were found 3 months later? All this after sustaining massive internal injuries and bleeding. One argument is that their friends helped them to the cedar which is not possible. Not to mention 2 of the 3 would have died before even reaching the cedar. Another strike against the injuries being sustained at the tent is the general consensus among the investigators that they left the tent early that evening and that it is probable that none of them were asleep. Sasha (for example), who sustained massive rib injuries, was thought to have already been outside of the tent. All of the investigators and medical experts concluded that the injuries occurred at, or near, the ravine - over 1500 meters from the tent and a few hours after leaving the tent. The simulation at 7:23 shows the contact with the hiker happening at a 90 degree angle which is not how a small avalanche would happen and is different than the model they show at 7:21. Even a small avalanche, like the one shown in the simulation at 7:47, would have not been possible to escape. The expert in the video even stated that there would have been tons of snow on top of them making it impossible to dig out of. I live very close to areas that maintain a high avalanche risk during the winter. If you are completely covered by even a small avalanche you are not digging yourself out - simple as that. If there was an avalanche the hikers would have all been found at the tent. If it had been an avalanche so small that they were able to dig themselves out, why leave so much behind? Why not secure footwear and additional clothing? The way the tent was found is not indicative of an avalanche. The tent was found with only 10 cm of hard, wind-blown snow on top of it. According to M. Sharavin, The cuts to the tent were found on the leeward side with the windward side of the tent folded over on top of the areas with cuts meaning that, when the cuts were made, the tent was still upright and that later on (perhaps days later) high winds blew the tent over on top of itself covering the cuts and tears. It doesn't make sense that hikers covered by massive amounts of snow would make cuts to the top of the tent, climb out, and then later fold the tent over on top of itself. Virtually nothing inside the tent was disturbed. Several of the searchers testified that the contents of the tent were completely undisturbed as if the hikers simply exited the tent under normal circumstances. does this make sense if the tent had been hit with an avalanche large enough that the entire tent and occupants were buried and then had to cut themselves free? Almost none of the hikers were found to have been wearing footwear. Nearly all of the footwear was found in a corner of the tent undisturbed. Only two were found with footwear - one of them being Sasha who was thought to have already been outside the tent at the time of the event. If you're able to escape the avalanche, why not spend a few extra minutes securing footwear and other essential items? 3 of the 8 were found trying to return to the tent. Why? What possible reason would there be to walk 1500 meters down the slope only to then, reconsider, and turn back? If it had been an avalanche, what would have changed in that time? What would have been at the tent hours later that wasn't there upon immediately exiting the tent if it had been an avalanche? There has never been a recorded avalanche on Kholat Syakhl. Even on the steepest parts of Kholat Syakhl (where the tent was not found) there has never been a recorded avalanche event. Couple that with the fact that hundreds of hikers have since been the pass and many dozens have slept in the exact spot where the tent was found and, still, no avalanche has occurred. None of the investigators believed it was an avalanche. None of the searchers thought it was an avalanche. I find it weird that recent investigators throw out expert testimony from dozens of investigators and searchers who had spent countless hours in the backcountry. The only way to clear this up is to have a team of experts travel to the area and conduct a thorough analysis of the slope above the tent location and attempt to trigger an avalanche. But none have as far as I know. I know the recent expedition to the area did conduct analysis of the slope and snow conditions but, as far as I know, they did not attempt to trigger an avalanche. Trigger an avalanche in that area and we will have the answer.
@@Missalicelewis you can read all of the case files here: dyatlovpass.com/case-files Also, there is an interview on the site with M. Sharavin who was one of the searchers but left early due to injury and was never officially interviewed at the time. I first heard about it several years ago (on youtube incidentally) and quickly waved it off as avalanche because the video I watched did a poor job of explaining. Later I saw this video th-cam.com/video/8iDOVQZhqSc/w-d-xo.html and it really peaked my interest in the whole thing. I'd kind of forgotten about it until the recent expedition by Russian authorities.
I've watched the video and read some of the comments, still things don't add up. If it was an avalanche why did the tent only have a light covering of snow? If the avalanche caused the "explosive injuries " how did they get so far away from the tent? If they dug themselves out ( with extensive injuries) why not get clothing and supplies from the tent? If they were worried about a second avalanche why did they split up? If it was the wildlife that took the eyes and tongue why only one tongue and one pair of eyes? What was the involvement of the Menk (bigfoot) that they took a photo of, that the local tribes reported as killing deer only to take the tongue? Why has there been no mention of the army boot cover that was found near the tent by a couple of the searchers ( The boot cover was army issue, not available to the public and the searchers were all civilian)? What was the involvement of the strange lights seen in the sky?
They said they were not found for 26 days. Probably enough time for some of the snow to melt. If you look at the modeled avalanche in the video, it wasn’t that big. They likely didn’t grab their things because they didn’t know how big the avalanche was and were just trying to get out alive. Adrenaline is very powerful. It’s powerful enough to get you moving if you believe your life’s in danger. One of the girls had her eyes and tongue eaten because she directly fell in the water where organisms in the water fed.
Here's my theory... They were murdered by military for seeing some kind weapon or rocket test To cover it all up they placed tent by themselves and cut it from inside. Buried bodies. End of the story. Now let me explain why I think that tent is a misslead. If we see in pictures and if you been in dyatlov pass, you'll notice that tent is placed in open place.. there is a constant wind even if you Don feel it you can see how tent or flag will react to it.. now imagine a big blizzard... imagine what would happen to it. Also those sticks ( thing that holds tent. srry for my bad English) ain't broken, but in reality they should be... Dyatlovs hikers ran to forrest supposedly after being injured... if we read about some of em you can notice that some of them died 10 mins after they got injury... you can't psychically get to that place in dark, blizzard weather with God knows how deep snow was at the time. In clear day you can get from tent place till that forrest in 30, 40 mins. They went deeper that where forrest begun. Also mystery is with one of expedition members... who has 1 name in passport but was buried with other name... had a tattoos and was overall badly shaped so Noone could recognize him .. even his parents never knew about tattoos and weren't sure if he is their son... and overall he have alot weird bio that doesn't make sense... There are bit more details to it. Like a document that had a report about dyatlov team being dead made before they even begun to search for them... overall from what I've read, and from pictures I saw and from physics logics I can say that all this tent thing is a cover up. Dyatlovs didn't set up their tents in that place, it was set after they were dead. There was some things that didn't belong to them. They saw something they wasn't supposed to see and got tortured and murdered by them. And the only reason why it's still a secret is cus that military test had something to do with something that would cause a scandal in USA? Srry for badly written text... it's 01:40 at the time of writing, and I suck at English... but I hope you understood what I just wrote.
If you're buried under a small avalanche, you're going to struggle to get yourself out first. But then all your things are several feet down in the snow, which is now hard-packed (moving snow gets compressed and sets up hard in minutes). So digging things out by hand in the dark would be very hard to do. In 26 days, the wind and sun could change the appearance of the site quite a bit. I'm not going to bother with the wild speculation questions you have.
Doesn’t explain the rest of the victims body trauma and their eyes and tounge being ripped out. They ran away from the site abruptly and were hiding from something
@@nanmattingly6402 That's not true, it's not written in any legit incident or coroner reports. Be careful what you read or watch, there's been so much bullshit added into this case it's ridiculous
@@A_Box half eaten doesn’t mean they weren’t finished. I see it as a meal was prepared... the contents of it could have been bigger than what they could eat. But who knows, none of us do, that’s part of the mystery. But I don’t think the leftovers directly say they had to stop eating.
Those people were highly intelligent , experienced and familiar with russian Winters. They camped before in similar terrain. Slipping snow boards do not explain why the whole region was closed for three years after those poor souls were found.
@Syalia Ghazalli I was nine yrs. old when this happened. Spent over 60 yrs. haunted by what happened. As soon as computers came along I started to study this event. I am now finally convinced of the answer. Start with Wiki...those people were in a state of sheer panic caused by sub-auditory sounds while they were sleeping...
@Syalia Ghazalli Ok..The team experienced bad weather so they dug into the side of the mountain. Normally this is a good strategy but because of huge winds the overhang (thought to be over 8 tons of snow) fell on their tents causing blunt force trauma to some of the group. Fearing an avalanche they quickly cut themselves out of their tents to flee the scene. Time was of the essence so they left everything behind. They tried to make a fire but because of the wind it was of little use. Some people were burned trying to get heat others died on the spot. Someone climbed the nearby tree to assess the situation and see where their equipment lay. Some wondered around trying to find their tents but eventually died a few hundred yards away. Others tried to dig a snow shelter. Unfortunately a flowing river was not frozen over and they fell in being buried by 15 feet of snow. It was 23 days until the first casualties were found. Animals usually eat soft tissues first so the eyes, tongues and lips were a quick snack for wild animals.
I loved this and loved reading the article. I never considered before they were already injured when they were leaving the tent. Makes it more tragic to me I think.
But then the strange thing is that those with physical injuries apparently out survived the two young men that were first found by the pine tree near the fire only in their underwear. Because the ones with injuries, were farthest from the tent and they were wearing these two men's clothes
@@cyril9759 The people with the worst injuries were the ones found in an ice shelter and one was in the ravine. It's possible they realized they couldn't make it back to camp in those conditions, took the clothes off the members who already perished and went closer to the ravine to build shelter to wait it out. They could have been eventually crushed by the snow and the female feel into the ravine.
just a little avalanche that happened to fall on the half of the tent they were sleeping on? it is possible.. the part of the snow slab story I like is that it explains why they may have gone so far from the tent - to seak part of the hillside that wouldn't experience an avalanche... that is something informed people might do if they were sure there was an imminent avalanche coming. - like, if they were partially crushed...but realizing there may be more avalanche coming...that would explain being really injured and fleeing the tent and going a long distance - long enough that they couldn't find their way back to the tent in a dark blizzard
OK, so the slab avalanche could very well explain the injuries of the Dyatlov's group students. Can it also explain, why: - the victims who were injured worst, were also clothed best? - the same worst injured victims (crushed chest, crushed skull, heart chambe bleeding) were the ones who walked furthest and dies last?
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Technically yes, the people who were injured worst most likely had a rush of adrenaline and hardly noticed the settling in hypothermia. those who weren’t as badly injured would succumb to this conditions and begin the final stages of hypothermia which is usually described as a declothing process. destroyed nerve endings make the body feel like it’s on fire and thus those that died of hypothermia would be found dead with minimal clothes. I circle back to the adrenaline rush with the victims who walked farther as adrenaline is an extremely powerful drug.
@@xcsdjujih7466 This was obviously a joke. Look at the photos in the order they have been shot and not just the single "snowman" photo, taken out of context. It is clear that the "snowman" in reality was Nikolay Thibeau.
@@jakejividen5770 Yes I can understand that an adrenaline rush can overcome otherwise debilitating injuries. I've seen that too, sadly. But nothing, for God's sake, can overcome broken rib(s) puncturing a heart.
@@opheteufel504 i don't even think you need a video, but if you want one, nick crowley has one that goes into good detail explaining how easy it was for elisa to access the tanks and jump into them, along with another video on other similar cases - it's impressive how many people jump/fall into water tanks, it's just that elisa's case is the most notorious in summary, it's often forgotten that elisa suffered from depression and bipolar disorder, and was most likely going through a psychotic episode (which is why she's seen in the video looking around her as if she's being followed). the roof of the building was easily accesible, since there were no alarms, and the tanks were often left open, so, either by accident or on purpose, she got inside one and drowned.
@Raelynn Mayle th-cam.com/video/YweZJeZo13A/w-d-xo.html there you have, a video of a random person going to the roof through the fire exit - no "card", no "log" and certainly no "alarm" of any kind
I don't think they got killed by the avalanche but the avalanche caused them to run away. 1) A slow avalanche pushed their tent. They cut it open and escaped, badly dressed. They reached a forest 1500m below the camp and sat by a tree and fire. 2) They split up. Some 4 were well dressed, 2 were in their underwear and 3 had clothes but not hot enough. The last 3 decided to go back to the camp to gather clothing or sleeping bags. It was dark and the wind was approaching hurricane levels. 3) These 3 died from hypothermia while moving back. The two naked ones died near the tree. The remaining 4 tried to go down in the dark and fell down a hole while digging to create a new shelter and died from concussive injuries. It matches clothing and manner of death. Almost naked ones died near the tree, light clothing died between tree and shelter and the better equipped ones died from a fall. Lack of eyes and tongue can be attributed to scavengers. Naked bodies are explained by them running away with little clothing and the last survivors ripping some of the dead's clothing for more warmth. Burn marks are probably caused by the dying falling over their own fire.
What scavengers wouldve gotten to the bodies buried underneath 3 meters of snow and leave no sign of digging? Also there's no way the 2 people wouldve ran out of the tent naked under any circumstance. It's more than likely the 4 that fell returned to the cedar tree at some point, saw the 2 frozen to death and took their clothes
This is what I believe started it. I just don't understand the massive internal damage to many victims. And if the avalanche covered the tent...the searchers discovered light snow on the tent. And the ski poles were vertical. Not disturbed.
Avalanche makes perfect sense really, their items weren't taken, the bodies weren't exactly eaten, they died in a short space of time too, thats how cold it was out there so I don't believe someone done this and then decided not to take any of their items. I believe there was an avalanche and they were buried in the tent, this was why it was cut from the inside to get out, in a panic they headed towards the trees to get some cover not just from the weather but just in case another avalanche happened and the trees would give them some sort of protection, maybe this is why they tried climbing 5 metres to see how high they can get in case another avalanche happened, realizing they were in trouble and couldn't stay out there in the cold, 2 stayed there at the camp fire they made, 3 tried heading back to the tent to get their items in the dark but got lost and froze to death, the other 4 carried on going south to look for more cover and fell into the ravine and thats how they broke their bones and died there, the last 2 just froze to death at the camp fire as no one came back to help them. Believe that a lot more than bloody aliens and Yetis what never ate them.
The one thing is the 4 that left wouldve have had to come back to the cedar tree at some point after the 2 there had frozen to death bc they were found wearing their clothes.
@@can_can9119 I noticed that in another documentary I saw after I wrote this comment, all I can think then is that they all stayed around the fire then and the other 3 went back to the tent, may be 2 of them died while still at the fire and the other 4 said look we can't stay here will freeze to death we've got to do something so they pinched 2 people guys clothing at the fire who died and then headed south down there hill and thats when something went wrong, they must have fell or snow fell on them from the state of their injuries, very weird.
Lemmino's explanation is what i think the most plausible answer for this mystery. I watched and read tons of theory, speculations and information about this.
Look under some other comments here @RH99 wrote some compelling arguments why lemino right on some things, doesn't explain everything. The stove wasn't used that night.
A main Russian writer sought to prove this years ago and even employed his own expert physician but common sense prevailed even against slab avalanche. The third thing he mentions re the injuries misses the point,that folk with crushed ribcages Luda and Semyon with Tibo with a fractured skull simply could not have walked down the slope to the Cedar Tree nor helped each other there,with these 3 all discovered in the ravine so they carried on from the CT and certainly not in those conditions leaving at least 8 pairs of adjacent footprints seeming to be holding hands as they descended.Please see Keith McCloskey who made this walk.Tho downhill its littered with scrub and rock and not easy surface.The theory also ignores the very unusual lights and the new evidence from an extended view of a negative that a very bright light was outside the tent front door namely the 3 heads photo and assumes this must be coincidental when it was extraordinary. After an avalanche experienced hikers in the knowledge that this tent was their lifeline in that weather would have attempted to dig it out and retrieve everything important, too.These were experienced disciplined hardened young people.They would not have panicked and indeed didnt.
the tongue and eyes are essentially irrelevant as the only real scientific evidence is the autopsy which doesnt state these allegations,the real question being if people so seriously injured,Luda for example being given about 20 mins max to live by medical specialists after her ribcage injuries could have made the walk away ,a walk where there is some evidence that the Cedar Tree was in fact on an escarpment involving quite a climb within the final 100-150 metres.On this ground alone,the theory falls,indeed shows an almost negligent amount of research .
The accidental exposure to a military test seems by far most plausible and requires the least convoluted theories (like the avalanche - they were very experienced, wouldn't run away form the tent naked if a bit of snow fell on it (we know it was not much snow because then they wouldn't be able to dig out and the snow would be seen on pictures as even their footsteps were not blown away in those 2 weeks)). They fled the tent naked because they were absolutely terrified of something: "Speculation exists that the campsite fell within the path of a Soviet parachute mine exercise. This theory alleges that the hikers, woken by loud explosions, fled the tent in a shoeless panic and found themselves unable to return for supply retrieval. After some members froze to death attempting to endure the bombardment, others commandeered their clothing only to be fatally injured by subsequent parachute mine concussions. There are indeed records of parachute mines being tested by the Soviet military in the area around the time the hikers were there.[50] Parachute mines detonate while still in the air rather than upon striking the Earth's surface and produce signature injuries similar to those experienced by the hikers: heavy internal damage with comparably less external trauma. The theory coincides with reported sightings of glowing, orange orbs floating or falling in the sky within the general vicinity of the hikers and allegedly photographed by them,[51] potentially military aircraft or descending parachute mines. This theory (among others) uses scavenging animals to explain Dubinina's injuries.[52] Some speculate the bodies were unnaturally manipulated due to characteristic livor mortis markings discovered during an autopsy, as well as burns to hair and skin. Photographs of the tent allegedly show that it was erected incorrectly, something the experienced hikers were unlikely to have done.[53]" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident
Simple answer is that a few dug themselves out of the avalanche, after cutting open the tents that trapped them, but without cloths, they died of cold. The missing eyeball and tongue could be eaten by scavenger animals after they were long dead.
It's a good theory, but it doesn't explain why they made small cuts in the tent to try to see something outside, then they made vertical cuts to escape. And even the body was found without eyes and tongue, I believe that area is so remote that there are no animals who could eat it. Or if there was, why would they start with that part? I read some comments about being confused due to hypothermia, I think a human being doesn't have the strength to pull it off. This case will always be a mystery, from all of what I read, The Yeti theory and the military base make more sense, it's said that there was a bomb test in that area that scared the students and the yeti who attacked them. I don't know, but I hope that they finally can rest in piece.
Typically scavenger birds and animals go for the soft exposed parts first. This especially included the eyes; Tongue is a lil strange but not unheard of. Also from the 1900s even up to the 50s and 60s people thought radiation was good for their health going so far as to sell uranium blankets for arthritis treatment. I wouldn't rule out the radiation being from some kind of product/equipment they brought in with them. In the pictures there is still tree lines which to me, speaks volumes that they are still within the range of habitat and life so these scavengers definitely could have come into question over the 26 days it took the rescue crews to find/come looking for them.
They completely left out the fact that the students' clothes were radioactive and that the womans tongue was cut off, this would completely invalidate the avalanche theory
There was a long time that elapsed between the hiker's death and her being found without her tongue and eyeballs. Animal predation can easily explain them being missing, since predators will go for soft tissue (like tongue and eyes) first since they're the easiest to get to. Predators had plenty of time to scavenge her body.
@@lindanimated the bidy was 3 meters deep in snow so animals would be strange. But the face was in a small water stream for 2 months so natural decomposition could well ve the case. Especially because nowere in the report is mentioned that the tounge was cut off but simply that it was missing. The eyballs were also marked as missing with the explicit additional explaination of decomposition.
@@sebastianheinrich8683 the decomposition might have occured but Dubinina´s tongue was rather torn out and according to authopsy protocols her hyoid bone was very unstable and moving which points to a possibility she had been strangulated.
If this interests you. Read "Dead Mountain" by Donnie Eichar. He does a fantastic job looking at the evidence, talking to experts, and finally celebrating the lives of the actual humans that lost their lives that night. In the end, he takes a really solid stab at what happened. Whether or not it's what actually happened is anyone's guess.
I agree! Especially with how he spoke to Yuri Yudin (RIP), I thought that was interesting to get his perspective. Only thing that kind of put me off was when he left his heavily pregnant girlfriend to go to Russia, and later when she'd had the child? I get she encouraged him to do it, but that sorta just rubbed me the wrong way for some reason.
@@RabidRekijo WTF are you talking about? It would be more true to say that half of Americans are called John Smith. Dyatlov is certainly not a very common name.
@@kazkaskazkas8689 I was exaggerating, though you're right that it's not as common as I'd thought. Out of the five Russian people I've gotten to know, three of them were called Dyatlov lol. They said the name was pretty common.
All of that can be explained. A few of them worked handling nuclear materials. Mutilation? More like decomposition. The bodies missing eyes, tongues, etc, were found about 2 months later in a creek/river bed where there was water. Unless you reach a certain level of cold and sustain it decomposition is only slowed down, not stopped.
@@wcraigburns3458 look at a map, it's in the middle of freaking russia, no borders whatsoever fro thousand of km, that would have been the dumbest plan ever for defecting
@@anapoda3081 it's 1000 miles to Finland . Not impossible if passed through chain of CIA agents . 2 worked in a nuclear establishment . Just a thought . SPF troops coming across them would definitely consider they were up to no good .
@@wcraigburns3458 thing is, when you look at their profiles they actually were from pretty well established families in the communist party, i don't know, it is a possibility of course but the place and their social background don't feet the bill for me
I finally solved the case : Its really simple and makes sense, those people found some wizards who they became friends with and asked them to provide them with smartphones from future with a working internet so they can watch youtube. The wizards created a magic portal and gave them smartphone where they all read the comment section of this video and thus killed themselves in weird ways. Wizards helped them. But now the question is where r those wizards....
I have read the Lyudmila Dubinina´s desperate father´s testimony about the dark brown colour of victims skin and horrible damage to their bodies including their faces which had made their recognition almost impossible (Doroshenko was initially mistaken for Zolotaryev). Then I have read about the radiation level on some of the victims clothes. The weird thing is there were only beta particles of Potassium-40 according to the radiation protocol officially available. Usually, when one is exposed to radiation due to his work (like Krivonischenko and Kolevatov) ALL of particles are found on the clothes (alpha, beta and gamma). Moreover, there were people with dosimeters operating on slopes in the beginning of search for perished students. Why? Ok, let´s go on talking about the avalanche version :)
This doesn't explain many things. Like if that really were a slab avalanche, why it injured only people, but tent was found untouched, even skies were still standing vertical (it can be seen on original photos). And after such critical injuries all people were able to stand up, cut tent from inside and run more then a mile without closes on 2-3 meters snow, at night and with temperature below 30 C degrees. It sounds impossible.
@@saouer I mean if you imagine that students were really injured by the avalanche while they were inside the tent (as author claims), then tent should be totally smashed out, it's base should be moved significantly. But at 1:51 you can see that tent pole sticks up vertically, the ski on the left is also vertical and finally ski pole in the middle is also vertical. That is impossible with such significant avalanche that can mortally injure people. The tent was found 24 days after the incident, so naturally it was buried by the snow falling during that time, but not the snow from avalanche. By the way, Sharavin, that is mentioned in 1:51, totally refuses avalanche theory.
@@prince-solomon it wasn't the test it was the assumption that nothing has changed. They should be trying to figure out how things have changed and how that would have affected things
What enters my mind is they must have suffered what had to have been a mini avalanche. Not very big but big enough to fatally injure some of them. What caused it was partially their doing and the other half the conditions of the scene + night. In other words a freak accident with probably 1 in however high number you want to go possibility. Probably high enough to be insanely rare and pure bad luck..When it happened in the middle of the night their first thought was probably to clear the area ASAP as they didn't know what else would come down the slope. Death by hypothermia takes time but you can take some measures against it. If you get buried under enough snow, however, like they probably feared was a possibility, then you're finished and there's essentially nothing you can do. By the time they decided/realized nothing further was going to happen it was probably too late for them to get back to their supplies before freezing to death. A group of 3 of tried to go back up the slope to the camp but hypothermia was faster.
@@zero3778 Horrendous man, appreciate the reply even though you literally just repeated what I confirmed that the other guy already said... lool but yeah it's crazy thinking qbout a whole damn squad wipe like that irl and the fact that we too will probably or could or how so many get absolutely slaughtered.
@@NegleLir yup, its 60 years ago, little chance of solving it. Even Purzin said “The truth, of course, is that no one really knows what happened that night” at the end of his research, it means he doesn’t even know what happen so its a nope to me. NOT SOLVE OBVIOUSLY
Avalanche its as simple as that, the mutilation was post mortem animal activity, ...very sad...looked like happy poeple having the time of their lives...May their souls rest in Peace♥️
It´s often a very simple answer to questions like these. To die to something as banal as a little avalanche is tragic, but so would be any other death. That´s real life. Unfortunately people will keep looking for much more "fascinating" and fantastical alternatives that make good mystery stories and keep them highly entertained by the tragic deaths of 9 young men & women... Avalanche? Nah, we want Yeti, Aliens, Cover-Up & tribesmen!
That makes no sense at all. The ones missing eyes and a tongue were found underneath 3 meters of snow and there were no signs of it having been disturbed by any digging
@@joedagg4495 that still makes no sense if you're saying it's an accumulation of snow why was only that immediate spot 3m deep in snow? It's the exact same weather environment as the rest of the surrounding area yet the rescue team didn't need to plow through snow to reach them.
@@can_can9119 So you're saying someone just dumped 3m of snow on one particular spot/deadbody and none of the surrounding areas experienced anything? That makes no sense at all, maybe you should check your facts. I know you want this to be a conspiracy or something mysteical, but a lot of bullshit facts have been added to this story.
I've heard it argued by the people who actually went there (literally making video from the monument built in that place) that it seemed weird that they would choose that place to build a tent - there were much safer places relatively nearby, and the speculations have been raised raised that the supposed tent was built there by the "search and rescue" (actually a cover-up) mission. Soviets had so many cover-ups that it could easily have been the case. I wouldn't completely dismiss the theory about them stumbling into the military testing grounds...
@@mwont The tent was found days before it was officially discovered and the soviet authorities already knew the group was dead on 6.2.1959. Even thoug the official search teams discovered the first bodies weeks later
The issue with the soviet cover up stuff is this - Anything that was significant and domestic that could be even perceived as negative was covered up. They even tried to cover up Chernobyle, but it was simply too big of an incident to cover it up or deny it. Around a decade after this pretty much all the files they had they released.
Exactly! Tent was placed there after they died! If you read all the info, what witnesses said about weird lights that night, radiation, location of dead bodies and location of tent.. and then think about tent being placed there after they died... it all makes sense, doesn't it? Tortured and murdered for seeing weapon or rocket test that they wasn't supposed to see. Buried bodies, set up tent, rip it from inside and so they made a cover up
It makes sense to me that the small avalanche just around the spot where they had cut into the side of the hill for their tent would have been what made them leave and set off in a relatively calm manner for the forest. The localized nature of that would explain why there was no sign of an avalanche several weeks later and why nine sets of footprints down the mountain were still intact. Maybe they were worried that more was coming their way, hence why they left everything behind. However, I doubt that the particularly severe injuries that the four of them that ended up in the ravine had would have come from that avalanche since it would imply that the most severely injured of the group would have walked the furthest down the mountain. I think they had split up into three groups once they got to the forest, one to start a fire, one to collect material to build a shelter, and one to go and retrieve their stove from the tent. The first group died of hypothermia when the other two groups didn’t return, the second group either got hit by a small avalanche when they descended into the ravine (hence sustaining the severe injuries), and the last group got stuck on their way up the hill in the storm and died from hypothermia.
Why didn’t they have more clothing or equipment with them if it was small avalanche? Their are pictures of the camp site showing it’s not covered. So why didn’t they take more with them if they knew a avalanche might happen again? You can chalk up the radiation the lanterns if you want. But wouldn’t a scientist be able to tell what kind of radiation it was? And I don’t think they come out and say it’s from the lanterns.
I also heard about that infrasound hypothesis: when wind breaks on slopes in just the right way, it could cause infrasound to mess with one's eyes and brain, cause all sorts of negative psychological effects. But eyes and tongues, omg...
The missing tongue/eyes is easily explained. Those bodies weren't found for over 2 months. When they were found they were in a small ravine with water present. Cold, unless it is sustained at a certain temperature, does not stop decomposition. It only slows it down. The eyes and tongue are soft tissue and would be one of the first to go by decomposing or eaten by scavengers. Hypothermia can also cause one to act in an odd or weird manner, yes.
I wonder if perhaps they bit their tongue off when struck on the jaw by the avalanche. But there would have been blood evidence on their clothing (not sure if there was)
@@zero3778 “Those bodies weren’t found for over 2 months” I should’ve known better than to invest so much time on spookytubers. I just watched two 30+ minute videos on this incident that still somehow failed to mention this, even though it quickly resolves the only genuinely confusing thing about this case.
So, the bodies that were missing the eyes and tongue... Wouldn't the bodies, and those parts be frozen solid, shortly after death? How did the animals eat frozen eyes and a tongue? Even if they were not frozen yet, seems unreasonably coincidental the animals stumbled across the bodies so quickly, in such a remote, cold and snowy location, so shortly after death.
If it was an avalanche, then please explain why they were walking slowly down the slope and not in a hurry. To me it doesn't make sense that the tent was still "intact" after an avalanche or that the footprints were present even weeks after.
@@jadezee6316 the people on the ground who found them,not long after it happened said there no signs of avalanche to been seen.they should know.not this 60 year after tosh.
All hikers were dressed when they left the tent, the low levels of #radiation came from one man's clothing who died under the tree. He had been involved in a nuclear accident at work a short time before the trip. The radiation was only present on the clothes, not the bodies. Being one of the first to die, he was stripped down to his skivvies, and his clothes worn by a few individuals found in the snow den (the worst injured). All left the tent with 3-4 layers of clothing including socks, some with jackets. The missing eyes and tongue of the female were due to animal predation after death. I don't believe she was found until May. The missing limbs of the tree the first 2 (clothing stripped) men were found under, were used for firewood, and to blanket the snow den later. All huddled under the tree for warmth at first, several had burned clothing and a couple with singed skin being too close to the fire. The 3 found on the hill, who all died of hypothermia, with minor injuries such as scratches and abrasions, had to have built the snow den and cut the tree limbs, as the others were too injured to do so. All died of hypothermia per autopsy though the injuries sustained by 3 would have been fatal. The most serious injuries were right sided. Thibeaux-Brignolle's, who had severe injuries to his right temple, had 2 watches reading 8:19 and 8:39, both were on his left arm. Slobodin, who sustained severe injuries to both sides of his head, had a watch that read 8:45. Dyatlov's watch read 5:31, he was one of the last to die, strictly of exposure. I think they're right on track regarding an ice slab accident. From the animations it showed the man lying with his head downhill, experienced hikers wouldn't sleep in that position on a slope. Lying crosswise would explain the right sided injuries better. Not sure if they would need to cut the tent from the inside. The tent was in very poor shape to begin with, one of the women wrote in her diary about continually patching it on the trip.
Catabolic winds caused subautitory sound causing the hikers to panic. Once out of their tent and running toward the tree line, they came back to their senses but died of hypothermia. Crows got to their eyes and tongue...
A couple of things still don’t make sense to me. 1) the mini avalanche filled in the dig holes but not the foot prints? 2) On what did they carry their injured (severely injured) comrades to the dug out shelter? I mean I get that the slow steady footprints are actually best explained by them carrying the injured, or is it that two mini avalanches happened due to their digging? Maybe I missed that part. Honestly, I always thought the hole was cut the night before which was the same time the one young mans coat got burnt. But even then, why were 2 of them so well dressed when everyone is supposed to be asleep? Were they standing guard? I always thought that there was a fight when they got to the tree. Sasha already had his very so maybe some of the ones that blamed Igor for their camp site(since you know someone had to bring up that it wasn’t a good place to camp in that kind of weather.) maybe they went with Sasha after the fight (which might’ve started over the first 2 deaths) got the dugout built and went back to get firewood( stacked from the tree site) and the extra clothes. I believe Igor took off first but his girlfriend would’ve followed him and her ex would’ve followed her thinking fight or no fight stick together. Either she fell first leading to a second more serious fight between her the 2 that fancied her. Igor got one good whack with the broken limb he was using as a hiking pole but the bear scarer knocked him a good one landing him on his ass. Where he stayed and died basically giving up feeling guilty for 3 deaths. Rustim kept going but the smack in the head left him disoriented (which is why he wasn’t in a straight line) and as his brain bled he fell and froze to death. If there was a 2nd slab avalanche (god at the bad luck) came down on the others as they were huddled for warmth that would’ve explained a lot. But that dugout wasn’t a simple fall. It was well done and Lyudmila was probably knocked forward as she was taking a pee break or on her way back from hanging up the wet clothes( since they were found in the trees) or maybe she ran back in a panic when she realized another slab had buried her friends and sinking to her knees couldn’t or didn’t get back up realizing she had no way to make fire and her only shelter was gone and the other 3 had never made it back to the tent
To answer the first question the mini avalanche filled the surroundings of the tend while they were inside so they left the footsteps afterwards. My wild guess is that they were expecting a bigger avalanche so they got dressed quickly and left the tend stealthily trying not to make sudden moves. There's a theory that says one of them was already outside the tend standing guard and helped the others out. The idea of a fight during the waiting by the campfire is quite logical since a bunch of unfortunate decisions were already made like going 1500m away from the tend to avoid a non existent avalanche. But there's also a possibility they amicably made two grups one to built a den and another to get some food and important stuff from the tend. For me the severe injuries were caused when the remaining 4 members were inside the den that probably collapsed due to the underground water running below the ravine. Your description of Lyudmila waiting for her fate is accurately horrific and matches the most likely scenario.
If your house is on fire, you don't think about the freezing weather outside. You don't gather your jacket and boots, you just get out ASAP and then figure out what to do. As far as the footprints showing they didn't run, I'd guess it's cause they thought running might excel what they considered an inevitable avalanche. Still, they jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire, but in the moment, it's dark, hurricane strength wind that must've sounded like a freight train and blinding snow. The thought of getting buried alive by an avalanche must've been terrifying, and they figured they'd get out of harms way first, then figure out the rest once they reached safety. Hypothermia could've kicked in within minutes, so they were probably delusional and not able to think clearly. But again, the house fire analogy is the best example I could think of cause I've experienced that before. I raced out of the house, and that was my only thought. I didn't even feel the snow on my feet or freezing weather cause my adrenaline was so high. We'll never know for certain, but based on the evidence we have, I think that's the most likely conclusion. Hopefully they didn't suffer long, but I'm sure having a fire literally burning your hands and feet, and that still not being enough to warm you up, must've been a horrific way to die. It's a sad but fascinating case.
@@aljazlm1030 I was reading more on the subject and that could be a factor, since the bodieses that were mutilated were found near water. But that still doesn't explain why Dubinina, one of the hikers, was the only one found with missing eyes, tongue and part of the snow. I have this really wild theory that maybe Zolotaryov attacked her? Since he was found wearing her jacket and hat. Hypothermia can have serious psychological impacts on someone especially if they know they're about to die. Could have been a number of factors, including decomposition and birds, but it certainly wasn't all caused by the avalanche
@@brunareivax3258 I don't think that an avalanche was even present. I believe, like you said, that hypothermia caused psychological effects on at least one of them. The strangest part is when someone cut the tent from the inside like they were in a state of panic, but when they went outside, the footprints showed that they were walking calmly. I think someone just went crazy, and cut open the tent, walked calmly and just went into the forest. I doubt that there was any physical involvement in this case. Also another wierd thing was the diary. Why didn't they write stuff in the diary that night. Also i've heard (i don't know if this is true) that out of the 10 cameras they had, only 4 of them were found.
why are they suggesting that a avalanche crushed the tent if all the bodys were found 500 to 1500 m from the tent. also the ones with the "car accident wounds" were found in a collapsed ravine... also also the missing eyes and tongue are common in stations where the body freezes and unfreezes multiple time and the soft tissue is destroyed in the process. also also also the guys with the radioactive clothing worked in an atomic powerplant and on Russia's nuclear program. there is indeed some mystery to this case like why are they almost all underdressed and why is the tent cut from the inside.
theres hypothesis to explain that, they could have been afraid of something and escape the tent quickly. for the clothes, its the paradoxal undressing hypothesis caused by hypothermia
@@JarvisProd so it's even less of a mystery although they could have been scared by something isent really a satisfying answer. I favour the stove theory where they left the tent due to complications with the homemade stove and then misjudged the distance to the treeline for shelter . Some of the body's had burned hair and clothes.
@@uwillnotgetme did they find bur’ing evidence on tent or people ? The problem is that each theories give answers to some but not all evidence, it must have been an addition of bad luck and different problems
@@JarvisProd yes some of the clothing hair and skin of the victims had burn marks on them it's difficult to say though if they were from the night in question. I agree that multiple thing must have gone wrong at the worst possible time and that's what lead to the incedent. I'm still confused by this video as now the government and independent scientists claim it was an avalanche which I don't see how that would fit with really any of the evidence.
So I just read up on it and the original report specifically states that the 15 to 20 cm of snow the tent was only partly covered in was clearly blown there by wind and not caused by an avalanche... Also just to add to my previous point the multiple cuts in the top of the tent can be explained as an effort to vent the smoke if indeed the stove malfunctioned.
The avalanche theory was disregarded, the tracks coming from the tent were not filled in with snow and easily recognizable after 2 weeks it couldn't be an avalanche
It could have been an avalanche or snow slide. But I think people try too hard to come up with a single scientific explanation when the real explanation is psychological and emotional.
these students were murdered by prison guards after they discovered that they visited mining compound without authorization and also collected some ore samples that had traces of gold, all administration of that region was involved in illegal gold mining, huge profit, students were a big threat to business
People who are open minded and listen to logic will know that there’s only one thing that could’ve happened to them (clue: their tongues were pulled from their mouths)
They know now the tent wasn't cut from the inside. That they don't know and the investigator way back when just made that up/just said it was cut from the inside when they didn't really know. And most all of what happened after they left the tent including injuries can and have been explained. Really the big and only question left is why did they leave the tent, what happened to get them to leave the tent...?
@@bowlsie7641 The hikers were joking around and made a "newspaper" sort of thing. It's true they wrote something like this, but it was purely a joke. Their newspaper also had a sports section that joked about who could assemble the stove the fastest and some other things
@@marianarodrigues7405 that's fair, i'm partial to the military murder and coverup theory but because of the nature of the mystery i cant completely discard they yeti theory. we won't ever know 😞
Your leaving out other problems with this case. The group ran away from the tent with barely any clothes on, there was a cut form inside the tent, the group clearly got lost from running away from the tent and then succumbed to hypothermia and other mysterious injuries.
They didn't run from the tent. Evidence found at the time suggests that they left camp calmly and orderly, with no other tracks of anyone else besides them being present. It is possible they got lost after leaving, but a torch was apparently left on ontop of the tent. 3 of the hikers also were found to have attempted to return to the site but did not make it in time before freezing to death. My bet is on a small and rare avalanche caused by the perfect combinations of things going wrong. It explains the injuries on some of them, why they left camp (they didn't know if more was coming and weren't sure if safe to stay), and why they traveled down slope to the tree line (which would've absorbed some power from follow-up avalanches.) The radiation is easily explained because some of them worked with nuclear materials. The missing tongue and eyes is also easily explained by scavengers or decomposition, because those bodies weren't found for like 2 months. When they were found it was in a small ravine with a small river/creek. Soft tissue like the tongue and eyes are the first to go when decomposing and fairly easy pickings for any scavengers.
@@zero3778 Then why try and return? Why risk a second avalanche? What were they hoping to find at the tent that wasn't there when the first left? When asked how long after receiving the two that sustained rib injuries would live, this is what the medical examiner (Vozrozhdenny) had to say: "Dubinina died 10-20 minutes after the trauma. She could have been conscious. Sometimes it happens that a person with a wound to the heart (for example, a serious knife wound) can talk, run and ask for help. Dubinina’s situation was one of complicated traumatic shock resulting from the bilateral rib fracture, followed by internal hemorrhaging into the pleural cavity. Zolotaryov could have lived longer. It needs to be taken into account that they were all trained, physically fit, and strong people." Here is what he had to say about the hiker with the head injury: "[He] would have had a severe concussion; that is, he would have been in an unconscious state. Moving him would have been difficult and, close to the end, movement would not have been possible. I believe he would not have been able to move even if he had been helped. He could only have been carried or dragged. He could have shown signs of life for 2-3 hours." From footprints we know that everyone left the tent and descended the slope under their own power and walked 1500 meters to the cedar. Lyuda and Sasha would have died along the way even before reaching the cedar. Thibeaux-Brignolle would have been rendered unconscious immediately following the trauma and, according to the medical examiner, transporting him would have been impossible. Also, no drag marks were found along the slope. These three were found in a ravine almost a mile from the tent. Nearly all of them were found with clothing belonging to the two found at the cedar meaning that they were at the cedar. At the cedar Thiebaux-Brignolle would have been unconscious and near death. Lyuda would have already passed away and Sasha would either have already passed or would have been very close. Then all three were transported again 70-75 meters deeper in to the forest and into the ravine by the the last remaining hiker found in the ravine (Kolevatov)? The rib injuries and the head injury to the three found in the ravine happened at or near the ravine and did not happen at the tent. Side note: they were able to somehow help an unconscious Thibeux-Brignolle escape the tent, buried under hundreds of pounds of snow but were unable to secure footwear?
Avalanche doesn't explain how people with like 12 crushed ribs made it further and longer, and were better clothed, than the others. I think those horrific injuries happened after the tent was abandoned.
I cant see even the fittest hikers walking a kilometre in minus 15 without shoes; let alone with crushing injuries to lungs and several broken ribs. Then, after all that, they burrowed out a snow cave and lined the floor with tree limbs. Why not take the time to dig out the tent and repair it?
This research lady should understand that avalanches are neither always obvious nor ever boring and I resent her categorization of the method of their deaths as banal. Yes, being hit hard enough by even a small slab avalanche could rip out your eyes and make you bite your tongue off. Small sub-nivean animals could also explain the missing eyes and tongue. Their scattering about would not be unusual as they flee the avalanche path as well as any unsheltered areas for the trees. If the avalanche hit at night it would also explain the lack of clothing and the cutting outward from inside the tents. The entire site could have been buried under a few feet of snow which then settled and/or was blown away exposing the remains. The radiation on 2 students was explained also as they were radiology students. The British lass seems to want to conjour up some flaky theories when it is all beforeher eyes, so sad.
So they were sleeping inside the tent when they were crushed by an avalanche? Weren't they in different locations and even a couple of them lit a fire outside, by a cedar tree? I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly or it isn't clear in the video (by 6:59 )
@@txm100 They certainly should have explained better, thank you for explaining! However that theory doesn't make much sense because then two people would have to carry seven injured people who couldn't walk for themselves, which I don't think is possible, and they scattered them in different places, along miles.
After setting up the tent but before completely getting settled for the night (most likely while they were still eating) the entire group exited the tent and then initiated a long decent to the forested area below the tent in socks (one was found in leather shoes, another was found in valenki, and one more was found wearing a valenki on one foot). It was also suspected that two of the nine were already outside the tent. After walking 1500 meters (almost a mile), they came to a large cedar tree where they built a fire on the leeward side of the tree to block the wind. While there one, or more, of them climbed the cedar on the windward side and broke branches 15 or so feet up (According to M. Sharavin who discovered the cedar, none of these branches were used in the fire as they were found lying on the ground at the base of the tree). It was thought that this was an attempt to clear a 'window' to look at the tent. After being at the cedar for around an hour, it was hypothesized by investigators that two of the nine died of hypothermia. At this time (again, suspected), the remain group members took clothing from the two and split into two groups. Three of them headed back towards the tent (all dying of hypothermia at different locations along the way), and four of them walked further into the forest area where three of the four died of massive injuries and the other died of hypothermia. This is what was theorized by the original investigators and it's all in the original case files and a later interview of M. Sharavin. According to the medical examiner, the three with massive rib injuries found at the ravine would have lived 20-30 minutes. The hiker with the head injuries would have been rendered unconscious immediately meaning that all of the injuries happened at or near the ravine and not at the tent. Walking to the cedar (considering the conditions) would have taken 45 min. - 1 hour. Investigators concluded that most or all of them had been at the cedar for at least an hour. A lot of activity was found around the cedar. Side note: There are modern day photos from the vantage of the cedar tree 15 feet up. In the photos, the area of the tent is clearly visible from the cedar. However, there was no moon that night until around 2:30 a.m. and the only working flashlight had been abandoned along the slope before reaching the forest area. This would have made it impossible to see anything. The recent Russian investigation concluded that they climbed the tree to gather wood for the fire because the branches lower on the tree had moss and were wet. None of the branches broken were used in the fire. The broken branches came from the windward side meaning they would have been more exposed to snow than the branches on the opposite side. I don't know why one of them climbed the tree although I think they did it to look back at the tent.
I still don't understand the tent that was found still standing with the ski supports upright? Wouldn't this have demolished the tent. They discovered the tent arranged. "An open flask of cocoa sits frozen nearby as if waiting to be reheated." "The ski boots standing in disciplined formation, the bags of bread and cereal positioned sensibly in one corner. The stove is in the center of the tent, not yet assembled." "The entire arrangment gives the distinct impression of someone having tidied very recently, and, if not for the collapsed tarpaulin (snow), one might expect a lively band of campers to return at any moment, kindling bundled in their arms." This was no avalanche that crushed them. It would have also demolished the tent, brought the ski's down and disrupted the neat order the searchers discovered. ((((Quotes above- Dead Mountain: The Untold True Story of the Dyatlov Pass Incident October 21, 2014 by Donnie Eicha)))))
Question: Are the cuts that the scientists making being done at the tent location? Because when I looked at the photos in this video and others, I noticed that the tent location seemed nearly flat. Also, in this video, it showed the search party scouring the area and all around them, you can see rocks poking up through the surface of the snow, this would prevent a slide.
to my opinion, they have been moved and they have not died at Dyatlov's pass. one interesting thing, the tent wasn't the right way at all, as if putted up togheter by someone who didn't know how to do it properly. not what 9 experienced people would have done.
Why was the tent basically intact and things set out so orderly in the tent if it was an avalanche? They were driven from the tent in a very disorientated state to be so poorly dressed when found. Perhaps the theory presented in one book of highpitched freakly weird wind noises disoriented and scared them thus the strange conduct and seemingly panic stricken activity. The serious injuried of the group probably resulted from falling down the steep embankment in the darkness in their terrified state. Everything appears to have happened in complete darkness.Colin John Aussie.
Two famous quotes come to mind: Eliminate all other factors and the one which remains must be the truth. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
@@Lue_Jonin I completely agree. Nobody can claim the truth, that's why science only has theories and never 100% certainty. I think it helps a lot to distinguish truth from reality by saying truth is only that what we think corresponds with reality. As opinions about truth can differ, there can never be certainty. Reality exists, but it will always be just beyond our grasp.
@@GiacomodellaSvezia yeah. truth is an abstract concept in our world, and one thing that cannot never be reached. The closest we can get it's a week justified claim with clear evidence
The part that confuses me is 9 extremely experienced people all decided (all freakin' 9 of them) to walk down 1500 meters to the treeline in their underwear in subzero temps...and only *then* thought, "Hey, let's try to go back to the tent and get supplies that'll keep us alive!!". Like...I know some of them would be injured from the slab avalanche...so why not send a few healthy people down with the wounded, while a few others gather supplies from the tent? Or, better yet, get the wounded out, let the healthy get supplies, everyone gets dressed better, and then all 9 walk down together with full survival gear?
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Honestly the missing eyeballs and tongues are the MOST plausible part to me. Simple. Wolves or foxes or some other kind of scavenger found the bodies and ate the softest flesh.
So the hikers were supposed to sleep, surprised by an avalanche. They cut the tent and run the mountain down with the avalanche in their back and not to their hidden supply base they left before ascending.... Can anyone explain why they sleep in socks (they had special boots for inside the tent because of the ice cold ground), without the oven fitted in place on an ice-cold mountain side? Sorry this makes no sense to me. How did the snow took the eyes and tongue of Ludmilla? How could they walk at least 45 minutes with broken ripps, pulmonary edema ? Walking without hats, gloves and boots in the opposite direction of their supply base? The injuries on the hands of few of them are similar of those of a fist fight. How could an avalanche provoke such particular injuries? What about radioactivity of only 2 clothes? Come on scientists, is that all you can deliver in 2021?
This is freaking me out. Never heard of this story til tonight. I'm alone at night and I have goosebumps! And it's because I'm imagining something horribly sinister that happened to them. But I dunno what. Its the stuff ghost stories are made of.
we worked it out ages ago. they asked the people who lived near by. they said "a rocket engine had crashed an rolled down the hill, crushing them in teh tent" - army cleaned teh area and kept their heads down about the rocket so they didnt have to pay out.
Why the tent was cut from inside? Why dead bodies were discovered from different parts of the pass? Moreover why govt was so reluctant to publish the reports regarding this accident? My opinion, it was the place of secret weapon testing.during this all were killed by the explosion.
@watson returns the avalanche makes even less sense though. The front and back poles that erect the tent were still standing when S&R teams found it. Surely an avalanche with enough force to cause enough panic that they would need to cut open the tent to escape would be able to have knocked those poles down
A stampede of Reindeer or Elk which live in the area could have caused many of the injuries. They had to leave tent fast and head for trees for protection. Some had on more clothes while sleeping inside tent and they got separated in the night & snow. Four fell into ravine and got covered by snow from overhead ledge.
Way too complicated an explanation. It's simple; their furnace started a fire in the tent. In the darkness and confusion, they couldn't open the entrance, so cut their way out. They died of exposure. The missing eyes and tongues were eaten by scavengers like foxes. There was radiation on their clothes because two of them worked at nuclear power plants. This whole thing is blown way out of proportion.
I think this is a weak explanation For something that we truly don’t understand what happened of the unexplained phenomenon how do you explain them cutting themselves out of a tent then running away from something barefoot and a half clothes and some of the injuries of having ones eyes removed in tongues removed I’m sorry an avalanche can’t do that to that kind of processed removal of just certain body parts and how do you explain the radiation I mean is Russians that bad with radiation how does an avalanche create radiation that makes no sense as well so I’m sorry your hypothesis on this is wrong sorry
Are you stupid? They were dead for days. Animals ate their tongues etc. People like you just want to beleive its something weird and not just an avalanche
Have either one of you read the report have you because it clearly says in the report that it could’ve not been animals that did the damage nor the elements read the fucking report before you judge me instead of running your come mouth see I read the report I know what it states and if they were buried under ice how exactly the animals have gotten to them you clearly don’t know how avalanche work never in recorded history ever in recorded history say say that again because I think your brain can’t comprehend it has this been reported to happen to people sink that in again I need to repeat it never will I see it real slow never in Recorded history has this happen to anyone else you fuck sticks why don’t you go suck each other‘s dick or if your two checks go eat each other‘s pussies
How would an avalanche cause someone to lose their eyeballs, tongue and lips. And why would they be scattered in small groups many metres from the tent? If an avalanche noise had scared them from the tent they would be all together with the fire somewhere. If you discount something unknown like the Yeti, then the only plausible theory would be that one of them murdered the others then committed suicide or died from the cold. But then the coroner said that the internal injuries would not have been able to be produced from a human attack but a strong compelling force. When you discount avalanche and murder and animal attack, what else is there?
There were 3 items of clothing that were only a little radio active belonging two the two people that worked with radioactive material for there Jobs. Tonge missing can be explained by reapeted freezing and unfreezing of the body's over the days before they were found which would destroy the soft tissue ie tounge and eyes.
I like how he proves an avalanche can occur on a low slope with a weak layer of snow WHILE DIGGING INTO A HUGE SHEET OF SNOW AT THAT EXACT SAME SLOPE AND WITH THE EXACT SAME WEAK LAYER.
No one theory answers all the questions. Maybe a combination of theories like, some kind of bomb testing causing an avalanche or dislocation of a small area of snow and ice at the campsite. But even that doesn't answer all questions. I agree that an avalanche could have caused a lot of the damage noted but leaves us with the question, "Why run so far from the camp?" An avalanche doesn't just keep on happening. So if they were awakened when hit by an avalanche, trapped in the tent, had to cut their way out, Why leave their supplies? The avalanche is over, the immediate threat has passed and the extreme danger of exposure is now in play. Wouldn't at least one of these experienced hikers want to stay and dig out their survival gear, rather than running blindly into the night? It seems that there was an ongoing threat they were facing, something convinced them that staying at the tent put them in immediate and mortal danger. We will never know the "truth" behind this, it will always be a mystery, and though the incident is horrible, it is kind of fun to speculate on it and/or try and solve it.
you are right. Actually the tent wasn't even burried, it was barely hit by some small slide. Also even if they were hearing another "avalanche" ( don't see how that was possible) still it doesn't make sense to run more than 90 seconds away from it because you would have obviously been already caught. They ran at least 15 minutes( if they actually ran) or walk( as I saw mentioned a few times) at least 30 minutes from an "avalanche"... It just doesn't make sense.
if you search Dyatlov pass,zoom in next to the black spot,you will see a long tree sticking up,look next to it,after zoom in on the white in the middle of the black spot,once you see that go done and at the end of the thing at the bottom of the dot you will see a figure EDIT:it's like at a 45 angle from the dot
I'd like one question answered, that I feel is a good one. The 3 bodies found buried in the ravine were the furthest from camp, so how did an avalanche deposit them there while still leaving visible footprints for 24 days afterwards? If the avalanche caused them to leave the tent in a panic, the advancing snow would surely bury all the footprints. I mean, we're to believe that it deposited 3 bodies, with severe injuries, some distance away. Case closed imo, the avalanche story is just to close the case.
it's a snow slab that fell off the top of a vertical wall- that they dug out of the hillside... it's like one big chunk of snow that collapsed on the tent...and caused them to think there was an avalanche imminent- as they were crushed and cut themselves out of the tent and fled what they thought was an imminent avalanche- but it wasn't an avalanche... that was the theory; that explains why they would flee the tent so fast and cut the tent... because they were knowledgeable about avalanches enough to think one was imminent. it makes sense; we don't know if that was after the aliens hit them with ray guns or before the small nuclear bomb was detonated
I don't think anyone was claiming the avalanche deposited them. I believe the theory is that it originally injured them and caused them to flee/abandon the tents. Hence the cuts from the inside after the slab fell on them.
Radiation: 3 of them worked in a nuclear facility nearby and lanterns at the time contained small radiation Tongues and eyes: decomposition, it took them 2 months to find the bodies, it could also be any animal
@@franciscosansalone Pretty sure tongues don't decompose, Atleast that way, but I have a theory. They could have tried to escape (some of them) and maybe the woman fell and bit her tongue off, And the eyes could have decomposed or maybe animals at them. Wait, I remember reading an article about this.. The mountains they were on supposedly had no animals
The radiation came from their lanterns and the missing eyeballs and tongues were of frost bite and animals. I add frost bite, because it gave a cleaner break, which is why they don’t appear to have been chewed off by animals.
I get that a avalanche could be the cause and animals could have eaten body parts, but why didnt the survivors grab any clothes after the accident? I mean they had to have taken the time to drag out their wounded friends from the tents. It must have been apparent that they would freeze to death without it
they could have been in a rush and also when people get hypothermia sometimes they start to undress; I don’t know why this happens, but you can look it up
@@titus4702 it also could have been decomposition, snow and cold slow decomposition down but don't stop it, the eyeballs are one of the first things to decompose (consider it took them 2 months to find the bodies)
The Avalanche does not explain why the group behaved the way they did. They seperated from each other and paniced. Ultra cold catabatic wind explains. It can be so cold that in seconds it can feel like thousand ice shards is crushing your bones. The wind started, the group paniced and tried to run away from the coldness. Nothing else explains their behavior in my opinion.
Thats always been my question, these were all experienced hikers familiar with the area. So what was such an immediate threat they felt the need to cut their shelter open and leave literally all the tools they need to survive behind? What caused them such panic that they felt the need to walk over 1000m just to separate themselves and not attempt to travel in a huddle for warmth?
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Fun fact to add to this: Yuri Krivonischenko worked for Mayak (nuclear facility) and helped clean up the Kyshtym disaster (1957). I don’t know how safe working conditions were in nuclear plants in Soviet-era Russia (I’m assuming not great!), so there is a possibility that the radiation that was found at the site of the incident came from Krivonishenko and his belongings.
About radiation - 3 of them worked in Mayak (nuclear facilities).
Or just thorium in their lanterns, per NatGeo article. Eyes and tongue gone due to animals, etc.
Yeah, most don't realize a few of the hikers worked with radioactive materials. Low level contamination is very plausible.
@@zero3778 If they worked at Mayak, it's more likely than not that it wasn't so "low level contamination."
Oooooooh 👍 Makes sense then.
There is a good in depth investigation and explanation here document.wikireading.ru/6952. Though it is in russian, but easily translated by google. In short, all four sample of clothes with radiation were found near or in spring with significant amount of dirt. More dirt - more radiation. It looks like leftovers of nuclear explosions that were actively conducted by USSR at that time.
But anyway, the main puzzle was why prosecutor insisted on radiological examination, considering that incident was not related to radiation at all and there were any evidence of that.
if a slab of snow falling caused a woman’s tongues and eyes to be ripped out, that’s a pretty sentient slab of snow👀
Yeah...
@@serch3ster that doesn't really make sense though the woman and the two men whose tongues and eyes were ripped out had buried themselves under the snow because the strong wind and the cold would have killed them and by burying themselves their chances of survival increased because of their body heat. I don't think that animals could have eaten parts of their bodies because of that. Also her tongue didn't look like it was eaten or something like that it looked like it was ripped out pulled out of her mouth by force while she was propably still alive
@@blueeeer also radioactive on their clothing plus yellow glow seen by other hikers in the dead mountain that day. All these is a new coverup by government.
@@blueeeer Well an animal could have ripped the tongue out with its teeth. Probably more likely than just taking a bite out of it. How do you know they that they burried themselves? It could have accumulated on top of Them after death. Its pretty obvious what happened to then now. This is no konger a conspiracy.
@@RacmusDK I don't believe this is a conspiracy nor am I 100% sure whether they buried themselves or it was just the snow covering them after they died . From what Ive heard they were the most clothed and because the others where not, people think that they took the clothes from the bodies left behind . The cold and the wind could have still easily killed them though still. It's just speculation and it makes sense that they buried themselves in order to survive . It's actually taught to mountain explorers that it is best to bury yourself than stay exposed to the wind . By burying yourself your body warmth helps you survive cause you're in a small enclosed space. So I think that it is possible that they realised the danger of staying unprotected in the cold and buried themselves in order to survive but it's also possible that the snow covered them afterwards I don't know. Even if they actually buried themselves that doesn't change anything the cold was still able to overpower them and they died from it. And if they died and then the snow covered them then it's still the same the only difference is that they propably lived some minutes longer in the first scenario. Literally changes no evidence or theories .I don't know anything beyond that and I do not believe that Bigfoot, aliens or a conspiracy is somehow involved I don't know what could have caused their injuries, animals eating them does make sense though I just thought an animal like some kinda fox or wolf could have easily ripped them out (they propably live there although I'm not sure the point is that it had to be of some size) that's why I don't think it was birds bugs or critters I don't think they would be able to rip them out with the force needed . Maybe I should have worded the previous comment better
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Sorry, several of the searchers testified that the stove was never used that night.
Huhh?
@@rh9967 ?
@@Trevonious95 lemmino’s theory is based around the assumption that they set up the stove that night and it caught the tent on fire and smoked them out. The tent wasn’t burned and they never used the stove that night.
@@rh9967 source ?
Doesn’t explain the victim that tried climbing the tree and had burn marks on his body...
Probably climbed the tree to spot other members or to see if any one was walking past. Burn marks because he probably got very close to a fire they tried to light to keep warm due to having no clothes
Either that or they were trying to escape from someone or something 🤭😱🤭
he didnt have burn marks, he had severe frostbite due to hypothermia making him want to take his clothes off, as it seemingly feels very warm despite being incredibly cold. dont know where youre getting that one from
@@saouer At least Krivonischenko had burn marks according to the results of original forensic-medical examination. In some places he had burnt out till the bones. Unfortunately, this information is absent in English Wiki version.
@Stabil That is impossible, because they haven't even started fire in their stovekitchen. And please note that Krivonischenko was found a mile away from their stovekitchen.
Do you know they were so impressed with snow animations in Frozen that they had a meeting with the Frozen animator to recreate the scene and solve this cold case with it
Thank you! I was about to say that
Frozen didn’t solve anything. people around the Ural Mountains (and snowy places in general!) have known about snow slabs for years. Is a diagram of a snow slab interesting, and could it put the effects of such thing in perspective? Yes. But did the creators of Frozen bring anything new to the table? No.
*attempt to solve this case
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I've heard that, but solved ? 🧐
It wasn't an avalanche. The injuries to the three at the ravine happened near or at the ravine, over a mile from the tent. The two with the rib injuries, according to the medical examiner, would have survived less than 30 minutes. The hiker with the head injury would have been rendered unconscious immediately and would have died an hour later. Are we expected to believe that they received massive injuries at the tent, dug their way out, and then walked barefoot 1500 meters to the cedar below after which they then made their way an additional 50 meters down into a deep ravine where they were found 3 months later? All this after sustaining massive internal injuries and bleeding. One argument is that their friends helped them to the cedar which is not possible. Not to mention 2 of the 3 would have died before even reaching the cedar. Another strike against the injuries being sustained at the tent is the general consensus among the investigators that they left the tent early that evening and that it is probable that none of them were asleep. Sasha (for example), who sustained massive rib injuries, was thought to have already been outside of the tent. All of the investigators and medical experts concluded that the injuries occurred at, or near, the ravine - over 1500 meters from the tent and a few hours after leaving the tent.
The simulation at 7:23 shows the contact with the hiker happening at a 90 degree angle which is not how a small avalanche would happen and is different than the model they show at 7:21.
Even a small avalanche, like the one shown in the simulation at 7:47, would have not been possible to escape. The expert in the video even stated that there would have been tons of snow on top of them making it impossible to dig out of. I live very close to areas that maintain a high avalanche risk during the winter. If you are completely covered by even a small avalanche you are not digging yourself out - simple as that. If there was an avalanche the hikers would have all been found at the tent. If it had been an avalanche so small that they were able to dig themselves out, why leave so much behind? Why not secure footwear and additional clothing?
The way the tent was found is not indicative of an avalanche. The tent was found with only 10 cm of hard, wind-blown snow on top of it. According to M. Sharavin, The cuts to the tent were found on the leeward side with the windward side of the tent folded over on top of the areas with cuts meaning that, when the cuts were made, the tent was still upright and that later on (perhaps days later) high winds blew the tent over on top of itself covering the cuts and tears. It doesn't make sense that hikers covered by massive amounts of snow would make cuts to the top of the tent, climb out, and then later fold the tent over on top of itself.
Virtually nothing inside the tent was disturbed. Several of the searchers testified that the contents of the tent were completely undisturbed as if the hikers simply exited the tent under normal circumstances. does this make sense if the tent had been hit with an avalanche large enough that the entire tent and occupants were buried and then had to cut themselves free? Almost none of the hikers were found to have been wearing footwear. Nearly all of the footwear was found in a corner of the tent undisturbed. Only two were found with footwear - one of them being Sasha who was thought to have already been outside the tent at the time of the event. If you're able to escape the avalanche, why not spend a few extra minutes securing footwear and other essential items?
3 of the 8 were found trying to return to the tent. Why? What possible reason would there be to walk 1500 meters down the slope only to then, reconsider, and turn back? If it had been an avalanche, what would have changed in that time? What would have been at the tent hours later that wasn't there upon immediately exiting the tent if it had been an avalanche?
There has never been a recorded avalanche on Kholat Syakhl. Even on the steepest parts of Kholat Syakhl (where the tent was not found) there has never been a recorded avalanche event. Couple that with the fact that hundreds of hikers have since been the pass and many dozens have slept in the exact spot where the tent was found and, still, no avalanche has occurred. None of the investigators believed it was an avalanche. None of the searchers thought it was an avalanche. I find it weird that recent investigators throw out expert testimony from dozens of investigators and searchers who had spent countless hours in the backcountry.
The only way to clear this up is to have a team of experts travel to the area and conduct a thorough analysis of the slope above the tent location and attempt to trigger an avalanche. But none have as far as I know. I know the recent expedition to the area did conduct analysis of the slope and snow conditions but, as far as I know, they did not attempt to trigger an avalanche. Trigger an avalanche in that area and we will have the answer.
Wow how do you know all these details? You seem really invested in this
@@Missalicelewis you can read all of the case files here: dyatlovpass.com/case-files
Also, there is an interview on the site with M. Sharavin who was one of the searchers but left early due to injury and was never officially interviewed at the time.
I first heard about it several years ago (on youtube incidentally) and quickly waved it off as avalanche because the video I watched did a poor job of explaining. Later I saw this video th-cam.com/video/8iDOVQZhqSc/w-d-xo.html and it really peaked my interest in the whole thing. I'd kind of forgotten about it until the recent expedition by Russian authorities.
@@rh9967 thank you, I always found it fascinating as well I’ll watch the video right now!
Radiation.. Why?.... Lights in the sky why?.. Why they broke the tents?.. Why they broke their nails trying to climb the trees?
@@elrincondepensar828 About radiation - 3 of them worked in Mayak (nuclear facilities).
I've watched the video and read some of the comments, still things don't add up. If it was an avalanche why did the tent only have a light covering of snow? If the avalanche caused the "explosive injuries " how did they get so far away from the tent? If they dug themselves out ( with extensive injuries) why not get clothing and supplies from the tent? If they were worried about a second avalanche why did they split up? If it was the wildlife that took the eyes and tongue why only one tongue and one pair of eyes? What was the involvement of the Menk (bigfoot) that they took a photo of, that the local tribes reported as killing deer only to take the tongue? Why has there been no mention of the army boot cover that was found near the tent by a couple of the searchers ( The boot cover was army issue, not available to the public and the searchers were all civilian)? What was the involvement of the strange lights seen in the sky?
exactly there is so much missing in this so call study by ''experts''
They said they were not found for 26 days. Probably enough time for some of the snow to melt. If you look at the modeled avalanche in the video, it wasn’t that big.
They likely didn’t grab their things because they didn’t know how big the avalanche was and were just trying to get out alive.
Adrenaline is very powerful. It’s powerful enough to get you moving if you believe your life’s in danger.
One of the girls had her eyes and tongue eaten because she directly fell in the water where organisms in the water fed.
Here's my theory...
They were murdered by military for seeing some kind weapon or rocket test
To cover it all up they placed tent by themselves and cut it from inside. Buried bodies. End of the story.
Now let me explain why I think that tent is a misslead.
If we see in pictures and if you been in dyatlov pass, you'll notice that tent is placed in open place.. there is a constant wind even if you Don feel it you can see how tent or flag will react to it.. now imagine a big blizzard... imagine what would happen to it. Also those sticks ( thing that holds tent. srry for my bad English) ain't broken, but in reality they should be... Dyatlovs hikers ran to forrest supposedly after being injured... if we read about some of em you can notice that some of them died 10 mins after they got injury... you can't psychically get to that place in dark, blizzard weather with God knows how deep snow was at the time. In clear day you can get from tent place till that forrest in 30, 40 mins. They went deeper that where forrest begun. Also mystery is with one of expedition members... who has 1 name in passport but was buried with other name... had a tattoos and was overall badly shaped so Noone could recognize him .. even his parents never knew about tattoos and weren't sure if he is their son... and overall he have alot weird bio that doesn't make sense...
There are bit more details to it. Like a document that had a report about dyatlov team being dead made before they even begun to search for them... overall from what I've read, and from pictures I saw and from physics logics I can say that all this tent thing is a cover up. Dyatlovs didn't set up their tents in that place, it was set after they were dead. There was some things that didn't belong to them. They saw something they wasn't supposed to see and got tortured and murdered by them. And the only reason why it's still a secret is cus that military test had something to do with something that would cause a scandal in USA? Srry for badly written text... it's 01:40 at the time of writing, and I suck at English... but I hope you understood what I just wrote.
Why post so much nonsense. Pay attention on the future.
If you're buried under a small avalanche, you're going to struggle to get yourself out first. But then all your things are several feet down in the snow, which is now hard-packed (moving snow gets compressed and sets up hard in minutes). So digging things out by hand in the dark would be very hard to do. In 26 days, the wind and sun could change the appearance of the site quite a bit.
I'm not going to bother with the wild speculation questions you have.
If the snow slab hit them while they were in the tent it makes sense that they would find a knife and cut the tent from the inside to get out
Doesn’t explain the rest of the victims body trauma and their eyes and tounge being ripped out. They ran away from the site abruptly and were hiding from something
@@Dillonferenc check the other comments
@@Dillonferenc Actually, their eyes were not "ripped out." They were cut out before death, as there was blood present.
@@nanmattingly6402 That's not true, it's not written in any legit incident or coroner reports. Be careful what you read or watch, there's been so much bullshit added into this case it's ridiculous
Hey, hey , hey I know it makes sense but what about the ski-ing equipments that are still standing “Vertical”
The snow scientist says they were sleeping, but at the beginning of the segment, they say that the hikers were in the middle of a meal 😳
Are you sure? She just describes the scene the rescuer found, which included a description of the remains of a meal they seemed to have been eating.
@@doribellan Isn't that the point? That by finding a half-eaten meal it is unlikely that they were laying on their backs sleeping?
@@A_Box half eaten doesn’t mean they weren’t finished. I see it as a meal was prepared... the contents of it could have been bigger than what they could eat. But who knows, none of us do, that’s part of the mystery. But I don’t think the leftovers directly say they had to stop eating.
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@@doribellan In these conditions, it's impractical to pack and especially prepare more food than needed. You don't feast in survival conditions.
Those people were highly intelligent , experienced and familiar with russian Winters. They camped before in similar terrain. Slipping snow boards do not explain why the whole region was closed for three years after those poor souls were found.
Bigfoot aliens!
Exactly... they were experienced... and yet for some reason tent was set up in open place?... or maybe.... tent was placed AFTER Dyatlov members died?
It kills me not to know what happened to them
Yes same
It has been solved
@Syalia Ghazalli I was nine yrs. old when this happened. Spent over 60 yrs. haunted by what happened. As soon as computers came along I started to study this event. I am now finally convinced of the answer. Start with Wiki...those people were in a state of sheer panic caused by sub-auditory sounds while they were sleeping...
It's been solved now. Everything makes sense. There are no gaps or holes.
@Syalia Ghazalli Ok..The team experienced bad weather so they dug into the side of the mountain. Normally this is a good strategy but because of huge winds the overhang (thought to be over 8 tons of snow) fell on their tents causing blunt force trauma to some of the group. Fearing an avalanche they quickly cut themselves out of their tents to flee the scene. Time was of the essence so they left everything behind. They tried to make a fire but because of the wind it was of little use. Some people were burned trying to get heat others died on the spot. Someone climbed the nearby tree to assess the situation and see where their equipment lay. Some wondered around trying to find their tents but eventually died a few hundred yards away. Others tried to dig a snow shelter. Unfortunately a flowing river was not frozen over and they fell in being buried by 15 feet of snow.
It was 23 days until the first casualties were found. Animals usually eat soft tissues first so the eyes, tongues and lips were a quick snack for wild animals.
I loved this and loved reading the article. I never considered before they were already injured when they were leaving the tent. Makes it more tragic to me I think.
But then the strange thing is that those with physical injuries apparently out survived the two young men that were first found by the pine tree near the fire only in their underwear. Because the ones with injuries, were farthest from the tent and they were wearing these two men's clothes
@@cyril9759 which indicates this theory is bs.
@@cyril9759 The people with the worst injuries were the ones found in an ice shelter and one was in the ravine. It's possible they realized they couldn't make it back to camp in those conditions, took the clothes off the members who already perished and went closer to the ravine to build shelter to wait it out. They could have been eventually crushed by the snow and the female feel into the ravine.
@@bonniehowell4259 I saw the pictures. All 3 were lying together in the ravine. Pretty much together.
An avalanche would have knocked the two end poles over that held up the tent.
And covered the foot prints
just a little avalanche that happened to fall on the half of the tent they were sleeping on? it is possible.. the part of the snow slab story I like is that it explains why they may have gone so far from the tent - to seak part of the hillside that wouldn't experience an avalanche... that is something informed people might do if they were sure there was an imminent avalanche coming. - like, if they were partially crushed...but realizing there may be more avalanche coming...that would explain being really injured and fleeing the tent and going a long distance - long enough that they couldn't find their way back to the tent in a dark blizzard
OK, so the slab avalanche could very well explain the injuries of the Dyatlov's group students.
Can it also explain, why:
- the victims who were injured worst, were also clothed best?
- the same worst injured victims (crushed chest, crushed skull, heart chambe bleeding) were the ones who walked furthest and dies last?
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Technically yes, the people who were injured worst most likely had a rush of adrenaline and hardly noticed the settling in hypothermia. those who weren’t as badly injured would succumb to this conditions and begin the final stages of hypothermia which is usually described as a declothing process. destroyed nerve endings make the body feel like it’s on fire and thus those that died of hypothermia would be found dead with minimal clothes. I circle back to the adrenaline rush with the victims who walked farther as adrenaline is an extremely powerful drug.
didnt they write in their diary "now we know snowmen exist"?
@@xcsdjujih7466 This was obviously a joke. Look at the photos in the order they have been shot and not just the single "snowman" photo, taken out of context. It is clear that the "snowman" in reality was Nikolay Thibeau.
@@jakejividen5770 Yes I can understand that an adrenaline rush can overcome otherwise debilitating injuries. I've seen that too, sadly. But nothing, for God's sake, can overcome broken rib(s) puncturing a heart.
The smartest thinkers in the world make comments in TH-cam.
Now I'm scared to go skiing...
that include you?
ok now off to elisa lam's case
Don't forget to solve the Yuba 5 after that lol
elisa lam has been solved a thousand times and a half
@@ebiUsher can you link to any of its solutions or something pls
@@opheteufel504 i don't even think you need a video, but if you want one, nick crowley has one that goes into good detail explaining how easy it was for elisa to access the tanks and jump into them, along with another video on other similar cases - it's impressive how many people jump/fall into water tanks, it's just that elisa's case is the most notorious
in summary, it's often forgotten that elisa suffered from depression and bipolar disorder, and was most likely going through a psychotic episode (which is why she's seen in the video looking around her as if she's being followed). the roof of the building was easily accesible, since there were no alarms, and the tanks were often left open, so, either by accident or on purpose, she got inside one and drowned.
@Raelynn Mayle th-cam.com/video/YweZJeZo13A/w-d-xo.html
there you have, a video of a random person going to the roof through the fire exit - no "card", no "log" and certainly no "alarm" of any kind
I don't think they got killed by the avalanche but the avalanche caused them to run away.
1) A slow avalanche pushed their tent. They cut it open and escaped, badly dressed. They reached a forest 1500m below the camp and sat by a tree and fire.
2) They split up. Some 4 were well dressed, 2 were in their underwear and 3 had clothes but not hot enough. The last 3 decided to go back to the camp to gather clothing or sleeping bags. It was dark and the wind was approaching hurricane levels.
3) These 3 died from hypothermia while moving back. The two naked ones died near the tree. The remaining 4 tried to go down in the dark and fell down a hole while digging to create a new shelter and died from concussive injuries.
It matches clothing and manner of death. Almost naked ones died near the tree, light clothing died between tree and shelter and the better equipped ones died from a fall.
Lack of eyes and tongue can be attributed to scavengers. Naked bodies are explained by them running away with little clothing and the last survivors ripping some of the dead's clothing for more warmth. Burn marks are probably caused by the dying falling over their own fire.
What scavengers wouldve gotten to the bodies buried underneath 3 meters of snow and leave no sign of digging? Also there's no way the 2 people wouldve ran out of the tent naked under any circumstance. It's more than likely the 4 that fell returned to the cedar tree at some point, saw the 2 frozen to death and took their clothes
This is what I believe started it. I just don't understand the massive internal damage to many victims. And if the avalanche covered the tent...the searchers discovered light snow on the tent. And the ski poles were vertical. Not disturbed.
Avalanche makes perfect sense really, their items weren't taken, the bodies weren't exactly eaten, they died in a short space of time too, thats how cold it was out there so I don't believe someone done this and then decided not to take any of their items.
I believe there was an avalanche and they were buried in the tent, this was why it was cut from the inside to get out, in a panic they headed towards the trees to get some cover not just from the weather but just in case another avalanche happened and the trees would give them some sort of protection, maybe this is why they tried climbing 5 metres to see how high they can get in case another avalanche happened, realizing they were in trouble and couldn't stay out there in the cold, 2 stayed there at the camp fire they made, 3 tried heading back to the tent to get their items in the dark but got lost and froze to death, the other 4 carried on going south to look for more cover and fell into the ravine and thats how they broke their bones and died there, the last 2 just froze to death at the camp fire as no one came back to help them.
Believe that a lot more than bloody aliens and Yetis what never ate them.
The one thing is the 4 that left wouldve have had to come back to the cedar tree at some point after the 2 there had frozen to death bc they were found wearing their clothes.
@@can_can9119 I noticed that in another documentary I saw after I wrote this comment, all I can think then is that they all stayed around the fire then and the other 3 went back to the tent, may be 2 of them died while still at the fire and the other 4 said look we can't stay here will freeze to death we've got to do something so they pinched 2 people guys clothing at the fire who died and then headed south down there hill and thats when something went wrong, they must have fell or snow fell on them from the state of their injuries, very weird.
Good theory
What about radiation? Some items found in tent that didn't belong to them? My theory is that tent was placed there after they died
Finally found a video for this as literally none of the articles I read can just get to the point. Also Last Podcast on the Left piqued my interest.
omg SO happy i saw your comment. i had no idea they had an episode on this!!!!
Lemmino's explanation is what i think the most plausible answer for this mystery.
I watched and read tons of theory, speculations and information about this.
Look under some other comments here @RH99 wrote some compelling arguments why lemino right on some things, doesn't explain everything. The stove wasn't used that night.
A main Russian writer sought to prove this years ago and even employed his own expert physician but common sense prevailed even against slab avalanche. The third thing he mentions re the injuries misses the point,that folk with crushed ribcages Luda and Semyon with Tibo with a fractured skull simply could not have walked down the slope to the Cedar Tree nor helped each other there,with these 3 all discovered in the ravine so they carried on from the CT and certainly not in those conditions leaving at least 8 pairs of adjacent footprints seeming to be holding hands as they descended.Please see Keith McCloskey who made this walk.Tho downhill its littered with scrub and rock and not easy surface.The theory also ignores the very unusual lights and the new evidence from an extended view of a negative that a very bright light was outside the tent front door namely the 3 heads photo and assumes this must be coincidental when it was extraordinary. After an avalanche experienced hikers in the knowledge that this tent was their lifeline in that weather would have attempted to dig it out and retrieve everything important, too.These were experienced disciplined hardened young people.They would not have panicked and indeed didnt.
the tongue and eyes are essentially irrelevant as the only real scientific evidence is the autopsy which doesnt state these allegations,the real question being if people so seriously injured,Luda for example being given about 20 mins max to live by medical specialists after her ribcage injuries could have made the walk away ,a walk where there is some evidence that the Cedar Tree was in fact on an escarpment involving quite a climb within the final 100-150 metres.On this ground alone,the theory falls,indeed shows an almost negligent amount of research .
what's the name of the russian writer you got most of your explanation from?? i'd love to read some actual evidence and not this nonsense!!!!
The accidental exposure to a military test seems by far most plausible and requires the least convoluted theories (like the avalanche - they were very experienced, wouldn't run away form the tent naked if a bit of snow fell on it (we know it was not much snow because then they wouldn't be able to dig out and the snow would be seen on pictures as even their footsteps were not blown away in those 2 weeks)). They fled the tent naked because they were absolutely terrified of something:
"Speculation exists that the campsite fell within the path of a Soviet parachute mine exercise. This theory alleges that the hikers, woken by loud explosions, fled the tent in a shoeless panic and found themselves unable to return for supply retrieval. After some members froze to death attempting to endure the bombardment, others commandeered their clothing only to be fatally injured by subsequent parachute mine concussions. There are indeed records of parachute mines being tested by the Soviet military in the area around the time the hikers were there.[50] Parachute mines detonate while still in the air rather than upon striking the Earth's surface and produce signature injuries similar to those experienced by the hikers: heavy internal damage with comparably less external trauma. The theory coincides with reported sightings of glowing, orange orbs floating or falling in the sky within the general vicinity of the hikers and allegedly photographed by them,[51] potentially military aircraft or descending parachute mines. This theory (among others) uses scavenging animals to explain Dubinina's injuries.[52] Some speculate the bodies were unnaturally manipulated due to characteristic livor mortis markings discovered during an autopsy, as well as burns to hair and skin. Photographs of the tent allegedly show that it was erected incorrectly, something the experienced hikers were unlikely to have done.[53]"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident
Simple answer is that a few dug themselves out of the avalanche, after cutting open the tents that trapped them, but without cloths, they died of cold. The missing eyeball and tongue could be eaten by scavenger animals after they were long dead.
It's a good theory, but it doesn't explain why they made small cuts in the tent to try to see something outside, then they made vertical cuts to escape. And even the body was found without eyes and tongue, I believe that area is so remote that there are no animals who could eat it. Or if there was, why would they start with that part? I read some comments about being confused due to hypothermia, I think a human being doesn't have the strength to pull it off. This case will always be a mystery, from all of what I read, The Yeti theory and the military base make more sense, it's said that there was a bomb test in that area that scared the students and the yeti who attacked them. I don't know, but I hope that they finally can rest in piece.
Typically scavenger birds and animals go for the soft exposed parts first. This especially included the eyes; Tongue is a lil strange but not unheard of. Also from the 1900s even up to the 50s and 60s people thought radiation was good for their health going so far as to sell uranium blankets for arthritis treatment. I wouldn't rule out the radiation being from some kind of product/equipment they brought in with them.
In the pictures there is still tree lines which to me, speaks volumes that they are still within the range of habitat and life so these scavengers definitely could have come into question over the 26 days it took the rescue crews to find/come looking for them.
I think she bit her tongue off in the impact she experienced, and birds ate the eyes
They completely left out the fact that the students' clothes were radioactive and that the womans tongue was cut off, this would completely invalidate the avalanche theory
@watson returns the area was radioactive and the tongue was clean off, if she bit it off then it wouldnt be so clean and wed see the toungue near her
@watson returns why would they even test them for radiation? I’m sure they have to dispose of their radioactive clothing after use. Open your eyes.
There was a long time that elapsed between the hiker's death and her being found without her tongue and eyeballs. Animal predation can easily explain them being missing, since predators will go for soft tissue (like tongue and eyes) first since they're the easiest to get to. Predators had plenty of time to scavenge her body.
@@lindanimated the bidy was 3 meters deep in snow so animals would be strange. But the face was in a small water stream for 2 months so natural decomposition could well ve the case. Especially because nowere in the report is mentioned that the tounge was cut off but simply that it was missing. The eyballs were also marked as missing with the explicit additional explaination of decomposition.
@@sebastianheinrich8683 the decomposition might have occured but Dubinina´s tongue was rather torn out and according to authopsy protocols her hyoid bone was very unstable and moving which points to a possibility she had been strangulated.
If this interests you. Read "Dead Mountain" by Donnie Eichar. He does a fantastic job looking at the evidence, talking to experts, and finally celebrating the lives of the actual humans that lost their lives that night. In the end, he takes a really solid stab at what happened. Whether or not it's what actually happened is anyone's guess.
It's nice that he celebrated their lives - that is very important to me
I agree! Especially with how he spoke to Yuri Yudin (RIP), I thought that was interesting to get his perspective.
Only thing that kind of put me off was when he left his heavily pregnant girlfriend to go to Russia, and later when she'd had the child? I get she encouraged him to do it, but that sorta just rubbed me the wrong way for some reason.
Just finished. Such a great read
Seems like Dyatlov is a cursed name.. remember the head nuclear engineer in Chernobyl incident also named Dyatlov?
Half of everyone in Russia is named Dyatlov
@@RabidRekijo WTF are you talking about? It would be more true to say that half of Americans are called John Smith. Dyatlov is certainly not a very common name.
@@kazkaskazkas8689 I was exaggerating, though you're right that it's not as common as I'd thought. Out of the five Russian people I've gotten to know, three of them were called Dyatlov lol. They said the name was pretty common.
Get him out of here, he's delusional
You may laugh, but "Dyatel" (a type of bird) may be used to describe stupid person in Russian.
"Dyatlov" is derived from "Dyatel" (a type of bird).
Radiation and Mutilation WTF is that "Avalanche" ??? 👽
Rocks are smarter then these investigators. No morals no self preservation just idiots.
The radiation is apparently due to a couple of the victims working in nuclear power industry locations.
All of that can be explained. A few of them worked handling nuclear materials. Mutilation? More like decomposition. The bodies missing eyes, tongues, etc, were found about 2 months later in a creek/river bed where there was water. Unless you reach a certain level of cold and sustain it decomposition is only slowed down, not stopped.
Avalanche cause unusually forceful injuries but dont knock the boots down, which were supposed to still be neatly set outside the tent?
Great point . What u think ?
Mansi or spetnatz . Thought kids were defecting .
@@wcraigburns3458 look at a map, it's in the middle of freaking russia, no borders whatsoever fro thousand of km, that would have been the dumbest plan ever for defecting
@@anapoda3081 Finland
@@anapoda3081 it's 1000 miles to Finland . Not impossible if passed through chain of CIA agents . 2 worked in a nuclear establishment . Just a thought . SPF troops coming across them would definitely consider they were up to no good .
@@wcraigburns3458 thing is, when you look at their profiles they actually were from pretty well established families in the communist party, i don't know, it is a possibility of course but the place and their social background don't feet the bill for me
Not solved at all.
It maybe is, a small avalanche, injuries and hyperthemia is a good scientific theory.
I finally solved the case :
Its really simple and makes sense, those people found some wizards who they became friends with and asked them to provide them with smartphones from future with a working internet so they can watch youtube. The wizards created a magic portal and gave them smartphone where they all read the comment section of this video and thus killed themselves in weird ways. Wizards helped them. But now the question is where r those wizards....
I have read the Lyudmila Dubinina´s desperate father´s testimony about the dark brown colour of victims skin and horrible damage to their bodies including their faces which had made their recognition almost impossible (Doroshenko was initially mistaken for Zolotaryev). Then I have read about the radiation level on some of the victims clothes. The weird thing is there were only beta particles of Potassium-40 according to the radiation protocol officially available. Usually, when one is exposed to radiation due to his work (like Krivonischenko and Kolevatov) ALL of particles are found on the clothes (alpha, beta and gamma). Moreover, there were people with dosimeters operating on slopes in the beginning of search for perished students. Why? Ok, let´s go on talking about the avalanche version :)
This doesn't explain many things. Like if that really were a slab avalanche, why it injured only people, but tent was found untouched, even skies were still standing vertical (it can be seen on original photos). And after such critical injuries all people were able to stand up, cut tent from inside and run more then a mile without closes on 2-3 meters snow, at night and with temperature below 30 C degrees. It sounds impossible.
the tent was not found untouched? it was found decimated by the snow? its literally in the video 1:51 theres a picture of it. its crushed under snow
@@saouer I mean if you imagine that students were really injured by the avalanche while they were inside the tent (as author claims), then tent should be totally smashed out, it's base should be moved significantly. But at 1:51 you can see that tent pole sticks up vertically, the ski on the left is also vertical and finally ski pole in the middle is also vertical. That is impossible with such significant avalanche that can mortally injure people.
The tent was found 24 days after the incident, so naturally it was buried by the snow falling during that time, but not the snow from avalanche.
By the way, Sharavin, that is mentioned in 1:51, totally refuses avalanche theory.
Maybe only some of them were injured and they were clearing out the snow and moving the tent up to get the injured ones out.
@@shamimbakhshi7217 I think most bodies had internal injuries but that doesn’t explain y they were naked
@@user-ok2xn1fy5i that's the most easily explained thing, Hypothermia
The avalanche guy is testing the snow nowadays assuming that the environmental the mountain would be identical 50 + years later
These scientists obviously know nothing. So, what test do you propose?
@@prince-solomon it wasn't the test it was the assumption that nothing has changed. They should be trying to figure out how things have changed and how that would have affected things
I'm sure they already calculated that.
I was so confused but I do think it's solved. 7:50 all of that does make perfect sense... slept right under flying slabs.. RIP
What enters my mind is they must have suffered what had to have been a mini avalanche. Not very big but big enough to fatally injure some of them. What caused it was partially their doing and the other half the conditions of the scene + night. In other words a freak accident with probably 1 in however high number you want to go possibility. Probably high enough to be insanely rare and pure bad luck..When it happened in the middle of the night their first thought was probably to clear the area ASAP as they didn't know what else would come down the slope. Death by hypothermia takes time but you can take some measures against it. If you get buried under enough snow, however, like they probably feared was a possibility, then you're finished and there's essentially nothing you can do.
By the time they decided/realized nothing further was going to happen it was probably too late for them to get back to their supplies before freezing to death. A group of 3 of tried to go back up the slope to the camp but hypothermia was faster.
@@zero3778 Horrendous man, appreciate the reply even though you literally just repeated what I confirmed that the other guy already said... lool but yeah it's crazy thinking qbout a whole damn squad wipe like that irl and the fact that we too will probably or could or how so many get absolutely slaughtered.
It is not solved and will never be since theres noone alive to tell
@@NegleLir Obviously some history can never be known, but a perfect explanation has been found :)
@@NegleLir yup, its 60 years ago, little chance of solving it. Even Purzin said “The truth, of course, is that no one really knows what happened that night” at the end of his research, it means he doesn’t even know what happen so its a nope to me. NOT SOLVE OBVIOUSLY
Avalanche its as simple as that, the mutilation was post mortem animal activity, ...very sad...looked like happy poeple having the time of their lives...May their souls rest in Peace♥️
It´s often a very simple answer to questions like these. To die to something as banal as a little avalanche is tragic, but so would be any other death. That´s real life.
Unfortunately people will keep looking for much more "fascinating" and fantastical alternatives that make good mystery stories and keep them highly entertained by the tragic deaths of 9 young men & women... Avalanche? Nah, we want Yeti, Aliens, Cover-Up & tribesmen!
That makes no sense at all. The ones missing eyes and a tongue were found underneath 3 meters of snow and there were no signs of it having been disturbed by any digging
@@can_can9119 Snow can accumulate, just because they were found beneath 3m of snow, doesn't mean they died under 3m of snow.
@@joedagg4495 that still makes no sense if you're saying it's an accumulation of snow why was only that immediate spot 3m deep in snow? It's the exact same weather environment as the rest of the surrounding area yet the rescue team didn't need to plow through snow to reach them.
@@can_can9119 So you're saying someone just dumped 3m of snow on one particular spot/deadbody and none of the surrounding areas experienced anything? That makes no sense at all, maybe you should check your facts. I know you want this to be a conspiracy or something mysteical, but a lot of bullshit facts have been added to this story.
I've heard it argued by the people who actually went there (literally making video from the monument built in that place) that it seemed weird that they would choose that place to build a tent - there were much safer places relatively nearby, and the speculations have been raised raised that the supposed tent was built there by the "search and rescue" (actually a cover-up) mission.
Soviets had so many cover-ups that it could easily have been the case. I wouldn't completely dismiss the theory about them stumbling into the military testing grounds...
I agree
The rescue team found them 1 month after the accident. It's a lot of time to stage and cover up what really happened.
@@mwont The tent was found days before it was officially discovered and the soviet authorities already knew the group was dead on 6.2.1959. Even thoug the official search teams discovered the first bodies weeks later
The issue with the soviet cover up stuff is this - Anything that was significant and domestic that could be even perceived as negative was covered up. They even tried to cover up Chernobyle, but it was simply too big of an incident to cover it up or deny it.
Around a decade after this pretty much all the files they had they released.
Exactly! Tent was placed there after they died! If you read all the info, what witnesses said about weird lights that night, radiation, location of dead bodies and location of tent.. and then think about tent being placed there after they died... it all makes sense, doesn't it? Tortured and murdered for seeing weapon or rocket test that they wasn't supposed to see. Buried bodies, set up tent, rip it from inside and so they made a cover up
It makes sense to me that the small avalanche just around the spot where they had cut into the side of the hill for their tent would have been what made them leave and set off in a relatively calm manner for the forest. The localized nature of that would explain why there was no sign of an avalanche several weeks later and why nine sets of footprints down the mountain were still intact. Maybe they were worried that more was coming their way, hence why they left everything behind. However, I doubt that the particularly severe injuries that the four of them that ended up in the ravine had would have come from that avalanche since it would imply that the most severely injured of the group would have walked the furthest down the mountain.
I think they had split up into three groups once they got to the forest, one to start a fire, one to collect material to build a shelter, and one to go and retrieve their stove from the tent. The first group died of hypothermia when the other two groups didn’t return, the second group either got hit by a small avalanche when they descended into the ravine (hence sustaining the severe injuries), and the last group got stuck on their way up the hill in the storm and died from hypothermia.
what about the radiation?
Why didn’t they have more clothing or equipment with them if it was small avalanche? Their are pictures of the camp site showing it’s not covered. So why didn’t they take more with them if they knew a avalanche might happen again? You can chalk up the radiation the lanterns if you want. But wouldn’t a scientist be able to tell what kind of radiation it was? And I don’t think they come out and say it’s from the lanterns.
The new theory suggests they sustained those serious injuries before they left the tent
@@thedrunkenelf theres no possible way they had any of those injurys before that
@@thedrunkenelf The new theory is a total BS. It basically ignores almost every piece of evidence there is.
There have been people buried in avalanches before without these kind of injuries. I am not buying it.
I'm not conspiracy theory nut myself but the fact that nine people out of nine Dad should strike even the most gullible sceptic is extremely odd
Hang on.. I was all with it until the eyeball & tongue comment.. But can't hypothermia turn you crazy
I also heard about that infrasound hypothesis: when wind breaks on slopes in just the right way, it could cause infrasound to mess with one's eyes and brain, cause all sorts of negative psychological effects.
But eyes and tongues, omg...
maybe some animal, or bird
The missing tongue/eyes is easily explained. Those bodies weren't found for over 2 months. When they were found they were in a small ravine with water present. Cold, unless it is sustained at a certain temperature, does not stop decomposition. It only slows it down. The eyes and tongue are soft tissue and would be one of the first to go by decomposing or eaten by scavengers.
Hypothermia can also cause one to act in an odd or weird manner, yes.
I wonder if perhaps they bit their tongue off when struck on the jaw by the avalanche. But there would have been blood evidence on their clothing (not sure if there was)
@@zero3778 “Those bodies weren’t found for over 2 months”
I should’ve known better than to invest so much time on spookytubers. I just watched two 30+ minute videos on this incident that still somehow failed to mention this, even though it quickly resolves the only genuinely confusing thing about this case.
So, the bodies that were missing the eyes and tongue... Wouldn't the bodies, and those parts be frozen solid, shortly after death? How did the animals eat frozen eyes and a tongue? Even if they were not frozen yet, seems unreasonably coincidental the animals stumbled across the bodies so quickly, in such a remote, cold and snowy location, so shortly after death.
If it was an avalanche, then please explain why they were walking slowly down the slope and not in a hurry.
To me it doesn't make sense that the tent was still "intact" after an avalanche or that the footprints were present even weeks after.
they were injured..... Obviously....
@@coreyorion1236 wrong
it was no avalanche....you think it takes 60 years to come up with this lame theory?
exactly
@@jadezee6316 the people on the ground who found them,not long after it happened said there no signs of avalanche to been seen.they should know.not this 60 year after tosh.
All hikers were dressed when they left the tent, the low levels of #radiation came from one man's clothing who died under the tree. He had been involved in a nuclear accident at work a short time before the trip. The radiation was only present on the clothes, not the bodies. Being one of the first to die, he was stripped down to his skivvies, and his clothes worn by a few individuals found in the snow den (the worst injured). All left the tent with 3-4 layers of clothing including socks, some with jackets.
The missing eyes and tongue of the female were due to animal predation after death. I don't believe she was found until May.
The missing limbs of the tree the first 2 (clothing stripped) men were found under, were used for firewood, and to blanket the snow den later. All huddled under the tree for warmth at first, several had burned clothing and a couple with singed skin being too close to the fire. The 3 found on the hill, who all died of hypothermia, with minor injuries such as scratches and abrasions, had to have built the snow den and cut the tree limbs, as the others were too injured to do so.
All died of hypothermia per autopsy though the injuries sustained by 3 would have been fatal. The most serious injuries were right sided. Thibeaux-Brignolle's, who had severe injuries to his right temple, had 2 watches reading 8:19 and 8:39, both were on his left arm. Slobodin, who sustained severe injuries to both sides of his head, had a watch that read 8:45. Dyatlov's watch read 5:31, he was one of the last to die, strictly of exposure.
I think they're right on track regarding an ice slab accident. From the animations it showed the man lying with his head downhill, experienced hikers wouldn't sleep in that position on a slope. Lying crosswise would explain the right sided injuries better.
Not sure if they would need to cut the tent from the inside. The tent was in very poor shape to begin with, one of the women wrote in her diary about continually patching it on the trip.
NOT ONE AVALANCHE HAS EVER BEEN RECORDED ON SLOPE 1079!!!!(DYATLOV PASS)
avalanche theory,is a cover up.as they all walked away in single file,not running for their lives.
Snow researcher is probably the coolest job I’ve ever heard of
Literally.
Catabolic winds caused subautitory sound causing the hikers to panic. Once out of their tent and running toward the tree line, they came back to their senses but died of hypothermia. Crows got to their eyes and tongue...
yeah but one victim had burn marks explain that one
@@JohnnyPhillips-uo5fg They tried to start a fire to warm up but it was to late...
Brilliant research about slab avalanches. Very interesting!
May all 9 Rest In Peace.
Actually they were 8, the last one has returned in reason that he was sick
This is waste of resources. Do you think heavy slab can remove a persons eyeball or tounge? Impossible right
A couple of things still don’t make sense to me. 1) the mini avalanche filled in the dig holes but not the foot prints? 2) On what did they carry their injured (severely injured) comrades to the dug out shelter? I mean I get that the slow steady footprints are actually best explained by them carrying the injured, or is it that two mini avalanches happened due to their digging? Maybe I missed that part. Honestly, I always thought the hole was cut the night before which was the same time the one young mans coat got burnt. But even then, why were 2 of them so well dressed when everyone is supposed to be asleep? Were they standing guard? I always thought that there was a fight when they got to the tree. Sasha already had his very so maybe some of the ones that blamed Igor for their camp site(since you know someone had to bring up that it wasn’t a good place to camp in that kind of weather.) maybe they went with Sasha after the fight (which might’ve started over the first 2 deaths) got the dugout built and went back to get firewood( stacked from the tree site) and the extra clothes. I believe Igor took off first but his girlfriend would’ve followed him and her ex would’ve followed her thinking fight or no fight stick together. Either she fell first leading to a second more serious fight between her the 2 that fancied her. Igor got one good whack with the broken limb he was using as a hiking pole but the bear scarer knocked him a good one landing him on his ass. Where he stayed and died basically giving up feeling guilty for 3 deaths. Rustim kept going but the smack in the head left him disoriented (which is why he wasn’t in a straight line) and as his brain bled he fell and froze to death. If there was a 2nd slab avalanche (god at the bad luck) came down on the others as they were huddled for warmth that would’ve explained a lot. But that dugout wasn’t a simple fall. It was well done and Lyudmila was probably knocked forward as she was taking a pee break or on her way back from hanging up the wet clothes( since they were found in the trees) or maybe she ran back in a panic when she realized another slab had buried her friends and sinking to her knees couldn’t or didn’t get back up realizing she had no way to make fire and her only shelter was gone and the other 3 had never made it back to the tent
To answer the first question the mini avalanche filled the surroundings of the tend while they were inside so they left the footsteps afterwards. My wild guess is that they were expecting a bigger avalanche so they got dressed quickly and left the tend stealthily trying not to make sudden moves. There's a theory that says one of them was already outside the tend standing guard and helped the others out. The idea of a fight during the waiting by the campfire is quite logical since a bunch of unfortunate decisions were already made like going 1500m away from the tend to avoid a non existent avalanche. But there's also a possibility they amicably made two grups one to built a den and another to get some food and important stuff from the tend. For me the severe injuries were caused when the remaining 4 members were inside the den that probably collapsed due to the underground water running below the ravine. Your description of Lyudmila waiting for her fate is accurately horrific and matches the most likely scenario.
If your house is on fire, you don't think about the freezing weather outside. You don't gather your jacket and boots, you just get out ASAP and then figure out what to do. As far as the footprints showing they didn't run, I'd guess it's cause they thought running might excel what they considered an inevitable avalanche. Still, they jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire, but in the moment, it's dark, hurricane strength wind that must've sounded like a freight train and blinding snow. The thought of getting buried alive by an avalanche must've been terrifying, and they figured they'd get out of harms way first, then figure out the rest once they reached safety. Hypothermia could've kicked in within minutes, so they were probably delusional and not able to think clearly. But again, the house fire analogy is the best example I could think of cause I've experienced that before. I raced out of the house, and that was my only thought. I didn't even feel the snow on my feet or freezing weather cause my adrenaline was so high. We'll never know for certain, but based on the evidence we have, I think that's the most likely conclusion. Hopefully they didn't suffer long, but I'm sure having a fire literally burning your hands and feet, and that still not being enough to warm you up, must've been a horrific way to die. It's a sad but fascinating case.
You cannot run in knee-deep show. You walk. Fast.
No fire damage found on tent. It was still intact.
ONE OF THE BODIES HAD A TONGUE MISSING?? It clearly wasn't just an avalanche
Well, most likely birds of animals ate them.
theres a thing called birds
There is a thing called decomposition
@@aljazlm1030 I was reading more on the subject and that could be a factor, since the bodieses that were mutilated were found near water. But that still doesn't explain why Dubinina, one of the hikers, was the only one found with missing eyes, tongue and part of the snow. I have this really wild theory that maybe Zolotaryov attacked her? Since he was found wearing her jacket and hat. Hypothermia can have serious psychological impacts on someone especially if they know they're about to die. Could have been a number of factors, including decomposition and birds, but it certainly wasn't all caused by the avalanche
@@brunareivax3258 I don't think that an avalanche was even present. I believe, like you said, that hypothermia caused psychological effects on at least one of them. The strangest part is when someone cut the tent from the inside like they were in a state of panic, but when they went outside, the footprints showed that they were walking calmly. I think someone just went crazy, and cut open the tent, walked calmly and just went into the forest. I doubt that there was any physical involvement in this case. Also another wierd thing was the diary. Why didn't they write stuff in the diary that night. Also i've heard (i don't know if this is true) that out of the 10 cameras they had, only 4 of them were found.
why are they suggesting that a avalanche crushed the tent if all the bodys were found 500 to 1500 m from the tent. also the ones with the "car accident wounds" were found in a collapsed ravine... also also the missing eyes and tongue are common in stations where the body freezes and unfreezes multiple time and the soft tissue is destroyed in the process. also also also the guys with the radioactive clothing worked in an atomic powerplant and on Russia's nuclear program. there is indeed some mystery to this case like why are they almost all underdressed and why is the tent cut from the inside.
theres hypothesis to explain that, they could have been afraid of something and escape the tent quickly. for the clothes, its the paradoxal undressing hypothesis caused by hypothermia
@@JarvisProd so it's even less of a mystery although they could have been scared by something isent really a satisfying answer. I favour the stove theory where they left the tent due to complications with the homemade stove and then misjudged the distance to the treeline for shelter . Some of the body's had burned hair and clothes.
@@uwillnotgetme did they find bur’ing evidence on tent or people ? The problem is that each theories give answers to some but not all evidence, it must have been an addition of bad luck and different problems
@@JarvisProd yes some of the clothing hair and skin of the victims had burn marks on them it's difficult to say though if they were from the night in question. I agree that multiple thing must have gone wrong at the worst possible time and that's what lead to the incedent. I'm still confused by this video as now the government and independent scientists claim it was an avalanche which I don't see how that would fit with really any of the evidence.
So I just read up on it and the original report specifically states that the 15 to 20 cm of snow the tent was only partly covered in was clearly blown there by wind and not caused by an avalanche... Also just to add to my previous point the multiple cuts in the top of the tent can be explained as an effort to vent the smoke if indeed the stove malfunctioned.
The avalanche theory was disregarded, the tracks coming from the tent were not filled in with snow and easily recognizable after 2 weeks it couldn't be an avalanche
It could have been an avalanche or snow slide. But I think people try too hard to come up with a single scientific explanation when the real explanation is psychological and emotional.
Would you explain
their tent was cut from the inside,they were watching something outside from the inside of their tent
these students were murdered by prison guards after they discovered that they visited mining compound without authorization and also collected some ore samples that had traces of gold, all administration of that region was involved in illegal gold mining, huge profit, students were a big threat to business
Guys, this is just a fascinating mystery: we have to accept that we might never know what really happened!
RIP to the victims 🙏🏼
People who are open minded and listen to logic will know that there’s only one thing that could’ve happened to them (clue: their tongues were pulled from their mouths)
They know now the tent wasn't cut from the inside. That they don't know and the investigator way back when just made that up/just said it was cut from the inside when they didn't really know. And most all of what happened after they left the tent including injuries can and have been explained. Really the big and only question left is why did they leave the tent, what happened to get them to leave the tent...?
Dyatlov diary: “ now we know ‘the snowman’ exists!” Explain that with avalanche science mr frenchy smarty pants.
You what? What are you on about? Never seen or heard this from his diary?
@@bowlsie7641 The hikers were joking around and made a "newspaper" sort of thing. It's true they wrote something like this, but it was purely a joke. Their newspaper also had a sports section that joked about who could assemble the stove the fastest and some other things
@@laurenscherrer7379 ahhhh ok then, cheers dude, clears things up a bit.
@@laurenscherrer7379 NO one know if they were joking, no one was was alive to tell. Mayby they found something strange in the forest? we never know.
@@marianarodrigues7405 that's fair, i'm partial to the military murder and coverup theory but because of the nature of the mystery i cant completely discard they yeti theory. we won't ever know 😞
Supposedly it wasnt an avalanche because no avalanche was reported around that time by the people living in the region..it was a yeti man..
Your leaving out other problems with this case. The group ran away from the tent with barely any clothes on, there was a cut form inside the tent, the group clearly got lost from running away from the tent and then succumbed to hypothermia and other mysterious injuries.
They didn't run from the tent. Evidence found at the time suggests that they left camp calmly and orderly, with no other tracks of anyone else besides them being present. It is possible they got lost after leaving, but a torch was apparently left on ontop of the tent. 3 of the hikers also were found to have attempted to return to the site but did not make it in time before freezing to death. My bet is on a small and rare avalanche caused by the perfect combinations of things going wrong. It explains the injuries on some of them, why they left camp (they didn't know if more was coming and weren't sure if safe to stay), and why they traveled down slope to the tree line (which would've absorbed some power from follow-up avalanches.)
The radiation is easily explained because some of them worked with nuclear materials.
The missing tongue and eyes is also easily explained by scavengers or decomposition, because those bodies weren't found for like 2 months. When they were found it was in a small ravine with a small river/creek. Soft tissue like the tongue and eyes are the first to go when decomposing and fairly easy pickings for any scavengers.
Read the article. This is addressed.
@@jacksonvanmatre I know it is they just still clickbaited in the title, they admitted that there isn’t a valid conclusion with this case
@@zero3778 Then why try and return? Why risk a second avalanche? What were they hoping to find at the tent that wasn't there when the first left?
When asked how long after receiving the two that sustained rib injuries would live, this is what the medical examiner (Vozrozhdenny) had to say:
"Dubinina died 10-20 minutes after the trauma. She could have been conscious. Sometimes it happens that a person with a wound to the heart (for example, a serious knife wound) can talk, run and ask for help. Dubinina’s situation was one of complicated traumatic shock resulting from the bilateral rib fracture, followed by internal hemorrhaging into the pleural cavity. Zolotaryov could have lived longer. It needs to be taken into account that they were all trained, physically fit, and strong people."
Here is what he had to say about the hiker with the head injury:
"[He] would have had a severe concussion; that is, he would have been in an unconscious state. Moving him would have been difficult and, close to the end, movement would not have been possible. I believe he would not have been able to move even if he had been helped. He could only have been carried or dragged. He could have shown signs of life for 2-3 hours."
From footprints we know that everyone left the tent and descended the slope under their own power and walked 1500 meters to the cedar. Lyuda and Sasha would have died along the way even before reaching the cedar. Thibeaux-Brignolle would have been rendered unconscious immediately following the trauma and, according to the medical examiner, transporting him would have been impossible. Also, no drag marks were found along the slope. These three were found in a ravine almost a mile from the tent. Nearly all of them were found with clothing belonging to the two found at the cedar meaning that they were at the cedar. At the cedar Thiebaux-Brignolle would have been unconscious and near death. Lyuda would have already passed away and Sasha would either have already passed or would have been very close. Then all three were transported again 70-75 meters deeper in to the forest and into the ravine by the the last remaining hiker found in the ravine (Kolevatov)?
The rib injuries and the head injury to the three found in the ravine happened at or near the ravine and did not happen at the tent.
Side note: they were able to somehow help an unconscious Thibeux-Brignolle escape the tent, buried under hundreds of pounds of snow but were unable to secure footwear?
Avalanche doesn't explain how people with like 12 crushed ribs made it further and longer, and were better clothed, than the others. I think those horrific injuries happened after the tent was abandoned.
I cant see even the fittest hikers walking a kilometre in minus 15 without shoes; let alone with crushing injuries to lungs and several broken ribs. Then, after all that, they burrowed out a snow cave and lined the floor with tree limbs. Why not take the time to dig out the tent and repair it?
This research lady should understand that avalanches are neither always obvious nor ever boring and I resent her categorization of the method of their deaths as banal. Yes, being hit hard enough by even a small slab avalanche could rip out your eyes and make you bite your tongue off. Small sub-nivean animals could also explain the missing eyes and tongue. Their scattering about would not be unusual as they flee the avalanche path as well as any unsheltered areas for the trees. If the avalanche hit at night it would also explain the lack of clothing and the cutting outward from inside the tents. The entire site could have been buried under a few feet of snow which then settled and/or was blown away exposing the remains. The radiation on 2 students was explained also as they were radiology students. The British lass seems to want to conjour up some flaky theories when it is all beforeher eyes, so sad.
So they were sleeping inside the tent when they were crushed by an avalanche? Weren't they in different locations and even a couple of them lit a fire outside, by a cedar tree? I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly or it isn't clear in the video (by 6:59 )
Avalanche, then they left(cut tent). Maybe they carried the injured and some died along the way. Survivors lit fire but froze.
@@txm100 They certainly should have explained better, thank you for explaining! However that theory doesn't make much sense because then two people would have to carry seven injured people who couldn't walk for themselves, which I don't think is possible, and they scattered them in different places, along miles.
@@Angie-zk4ei Adrenalin can get you do a lot of things even when you are internally bleeding and dying.
After setting up the tent but before completely getting settled for the night (most likely while they were still eating) the entire group exited the tent and then initiated a long decent to the forested area below the tent in socks (one was found in leather shoes, another was found in valenki, and one more was found wearing a valenki on one foot). It was also suspected that two of the nine were already outside the tent. After walking 1500 meters (almost a mile), they came to a large cedar tree where they built a fire on the leeward side of the tree to block the wind. While there one, or more, of them climbed the cedar on the windward side and broke branches 15 or so feet up (According to M. Sharavin who discovered the cedar, none of these branches were used in the fire as they were found lying on the ground at the base of the tree). It was thought that this was an attempt to clear a 'window' to look at the tent. After being at the cedar for around an hour, it was hypothesized by investigators that two of the nine died of hypothermia. At this time (again, suspected), the remain group members took clothing from the two and split into two groups. Three of them headed back towards the tent (all dying of hypothermia at different locations along the way), and four of them walked further into the forest area where three of the four died of massive injuries and the other died of hypothermia. This is what was theorized by the original investigators and it's all in the original case files and a later interview of M. Sharavin.
According to the medical examiner, the three with massive rib injuries found at the ravine would have lived 20-30 minutes. The hiker with the head injuries would have been rendered unconscious immediately meaning that all of the injuries happened at or near the ravine and not at the tent. Walking to the cedar (considering the conditions) would have taken 45 min. - 1 hour. Investigators concluded that most or all of them had been at the cedar for at least an hour. A lot of activity was found around the cedar.
Side note:
There are modern day photos from the vantage of the cedar tree 15 feet up. In the photos, the area of the tent is clearly visible from the cedar. However, there was no moon that night until around 2:30 a.m. and the only working flashlight had been abandoned along the slope before reaching the forest area. This would have made it impossible to see anything. The recent Russian investigation concluded that they climbed the tree to gather wood for the fire because the branches lower on the tree had moss and were wet. None of the branches broken were used in the fire. The broken branches came from the windward side meaning they would have been more exposed to snow than the branches on the opposite side. I don't know why one of them climbed the tree although I think they did it to look back at the tent.
I still don't understand the tent that was found still standing with the ski supports upright? Wouldn't this have demolished the tent. They discovered the tent arranged. "An open flask of cocoa sits frozen nearby as if waiting to be reheated." "The ski boots standing in disciplined formation, the bags of bread and cereal positioned sensibly in one corner. The stove is in the center of the tent, not yet assembled." "The entire arrangment gives the distinct impression of someone having tidied very recently, and, if not for the collapsed tarpaulin (snow), one might expect a lively band of campers to return at any moment, kindling bundled in their arms." This was no avalanche that crushed them. It would have also demolished the tent, brought the ski's down and disrupted the neat order the searchers discovered.
((((Quotes above- Dead Mountain: The Untold True Story of the Dyatlov Pass Incident October 21, 2014
by Donnie Eicha)))))
Question: Are the cuts that the scientists making being done at the tent location? Because when I looked at the photos in this video and others, I noticed that the tent location seemed nearly flat. Also, in this video, it showed the search party scouring the area and all around them, you can see rocks poking up through the surface of the snow, this would prevent a slide.
Yep. And this is exactly why I think Tent was placed there after they died
to my opinion, they have been moved and they have not died at Dyatlov's pass. one interesting thing, the tent wasn't the right way at all, as if putted up togheter by someone who didn't know how to do it properly. not what 9 experienced people would have done.
Finally, after wading through a sea of spookytubers I finally found a reasonable video on this topic.
Why was the tent basically intact and things set out so orderly in the tent if it was an avalanche? They were driven from the tent in a very disorientated state to be so poorly dressed when found. Perhaps the theory presented in one book of highpitched freakly weird wind noises disoriented and scared them thus the strange conduct and seemingly panic stricken activity. The serious injuried of the group probably resulted from falling down the steep embankment in the darkness in their terrified state. Everything appears to have happened in complete darkness.Colin John Aussie.
Missing body parts and radiation on the clothes now solve me that one.
birds or animals would have had at the eyeballs and tongue and 3 of them worked in nuclear environments
“A snow scientist as well as a snow enthusiast”! Cool.
Two famous quotes come to mind:
Eliminate all other factors and the one which remains must be the truth.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Extraordinary claims are sometimes supported by simple truths.
That is still just guessing.
"Truth" takes no rise or fall from outward things.
If the facts aren't confirmed... One can't claim it as the truth.
@@Lue_Jonin
I completely agree. Nobody can claim the truth, that's why science only has theories and never 100% certainty.
I think it helps a lot to distinguish truth from reality by saying truth is only that what we think corresponds with reality. As opinions about truth can differ, there can never be certainty. Reality exists, but it will always be just beyond our grasp.
@@GiacomodellaSvezia yeah. truth is an abstract concept in our world, and one thing that cannot never be reached. The closest we can get it's a week justified claim with clear evidence
Once the impossible is eliminated whatever remains, even if unprobable, must be the truth.
The part that confuses me is 9 extremely experienced people all decided (all freakin' 9 of them) to walk down 1500 meters to the treeline in their underwear in subzero temps...and only *then* thought, "Hey, let's try to go back to the tent and get supplies that'll keep us alive!!".
Like...I know some of them would be injured from the slab avalanche...so why not send a few healthy people down with the wounded, while a few others gather supplies from the tent?
Or, better yet, get the wounded out, let the healthy get supplies, everyone gets dressed better, and then all 9 walk down together with full survival gear?
Just simple nitpick, I think they meant "topography", not topology.
I am not so sure of that.
Topology: The Study of Shape. Like the shape of the slope.
Ain't no way for nine people to die like that naturally no way of force of some type and it wouldn't snow 🌨️❄️🌨️❄️🌨️❄️🌨️❄️👿👍🙏🏾🙏😭😥😢👽👹👿👺💔👁️👁️🙏🏾🌡️👽👹👿👽👽👹😢👺🌎🌍🙏🏾🙏👍😭👽
Honestly the missing eyeballs and tongues are the MOST plausible part to me. Simple. Wolves or foxes or some other kind of scavenger found the bodies and ate the softest flesh.
Wolves are made to chew bones so it can't be them.
@@jsensei402 Then possibly some other scavenger. I'm just saying that's like the LEAST mysterious part of this.
Well didn’t the snow all cover the ravine
There isn't animals at those mountains
@@kebabelain4969 None at all? That seems like a good place for wolves to be living...
So the hikers were supposed to sleep, surprised by an avalanche. They cut the tent and run the mountain down with the avalanche in their back and not to their hidden supply base they left before ascending.... Can anyone explain why they sleep in socks (they had special boots for inside the tent because of the ice cold ground), without the oven fitted in place on an ice-cold mountain side? Sorry this makes no sense to me. How did the snow took the eyes and tongue of Ludmilla? How could they walk at least 45 minutes with broken ripps, pulmonary edema ? Walking without hats, gloves and boots in the opposite direction of their supply base? The injuries on the hands of few of them are similar of those of a fist fight. How could an avalanche provoke such particular injuries? What about radioactivity of only 2 clothes? Come on scientists, is that all you can deliver in 2021?
This is freaking me out. Never heard of this story til tonight. I'm alone at night and I have goosebumps! And it's because I'm imagining something horribly sinister that happened to them. But I dunno what. Its the stuff ghost stories are made of.
shit man, same here. Something just killed them and it is obvious. The question is only what and why
we worked it out ages ago. they asked the people who lived near by. they said "a rocket engine had crashed an rolled down the hill, crushing them in teh tent" - army cleaned teh area and kept their heads down about the rocket so they didnt have to pay out.
People in the comments are mad at the wrong thing. They discovered this due to the animated movie Frozen and that's not mentioned once
Literally people just want their bullshit fantasies confirmed. So disgusting
Why the tent was cut from inside?
Why dead bodies were discovered from different parts of the pass?
Moreover why govt was so reluctant to publish the reports regarding this accident?
My opinion, it was the place of secret weapon testing.during this all were killed by the explosion.
WHAT ABOUT THE BOOTS BEING NEATLY STACKED? AN AVALANCHE? REALLY?
@watson returns the avalanche makes even less sense though. The front and back poles that erect the tent were still standing when S&R teams found it. Surely an avalanche with enough force to cause enough panic that they would need to cut open the tent to escape would be able to have knocked those poles down
A stampede of Reindeer or Elk which live in the area could have caused many of the injuries. They had to leave tent fast and head for trees for protection. Some had on more clothes while sleeping inside tent and they got separated in the night & snow. Four fell into ravine and got covered by snow from overhead ledge.
All of the footsteps of the humans were visible, so a stampede would definitely be visible still.
Way too complicated an explanation. It's simple; their furnace started a fire in the tent. In the darkness and confusion, they couldn't open the entrance, so cut their way out. They died of exposure. The missing eyes and tongues were eaten by scavengers like foxes. There was radiation on their clothes because two of them worked at nuclear power plants. This whole thing is blown way out of proportion.
What about the rib injuries?
The stove was not used that night.
@@marketapokorna3475 They were stumbling around outside at night. Self explanatory.
It’s incidents like this that make believing in aliens seem much more realistic
I think this is a weak explanation For something that we truly don’t understand what happened of the unexplained phenomenon how do you explain them cutting themselves out of a tent then running away from something barefoot and a half clothes and some of the injuries of having ones eyes removed in tongues removed I’m sorry an avalanche can’t do that to that kind of processed removal of just certain body parts and how do you explain the radiation I mean is Russians that bad with radiation how does an avalanche create radiation that makes no sense as well so I’m sorry your hypothesis on this is wrong sorry
Are you stupid? They were dead for days. Animals ate their tongues etc. People like you just want to beleive its something weird and not just an avalanche
Plus the radiation is thorium lamps. You obviously aren't either a scientist or a weather expert and just an idiot claiming you aren't
Have either one of you read the report have you because it clearly says in the report that it could’ve not been animals that did the damage nor the elements read the fucking report before you judge me instead of running your come mouth see I read the report I know what it states and if they were buried under ice how exactly the animals have gotten to them you clearly don’t know how avalanche work never in recorded history ever in recorded history say say that again because I think your brain can’t comprehend it has this been reported to happen to people sink that in again I need to repeat it never will I see it real slow never in Recorded history has this happen to anyone else you fuck sticks why don’t you go suck each other‘s dick or if your two checks go eat each other‘s pussies
How would an avalanche cause someone to lose their eyeballs, tongue and lips. And why would they be scattered in small groups many metres from the tent? If an avalanche noise had scared them from the tent they would be all together with the fire somewhere. If you discount something unknown like the Yeti, then the only plausible theory would be that one of them murdered the others then committed suicide or died from the cold. But then the coroner said that the internal injuries would not have been able to be produced from a human attack but a strong compelling force. When you discount avalanche and murder and animal attack, what else is there?
werent theyre bodies radioactive and one of their tongues missing?
Yeah. They were also orange in colour when they were buried. This is all bullshit.
There were 3 items of clothing that were only a little radio active belonging two the two people that worked with radioactive material for there Jobs. Tonge missing can be explained by reapeted freezing and unfreezing of the body's over the days before they were found which would destroy the soft tissue ie tounge and eyes.
@@malificentpurple what makes you say they were orange when buried?
@@uwillnotgetme autopsy report said lyudmila dubibina is still alive when the tounge is cuts from her mouth bcs blood is found in his stomach
I like how he proves an avalanche can occur on a low slope with a weak layer of snow WHILE DIGGING INTO A HUGE SHEET OF SNOW AT THAT EXACT SAME SLOPE AND WITH THE EXACT SAME WEAK LAYER.
I still don’t know why one of them has their eyes gone..
Crows maybe 🤷
@@ashcheeks1 no crows that high
The person was found face down into a ravine. Decomposition caused that.
No one theory answers all the questions. Maybe a combination of theories like, some kind of bomb testing causing an avalanche or dislocation of a small area of snow and ice at the campsite. But even that doesn't answer all questions. I agree that an avalanche could have caused a lot of the damage noted but leaves us with the question, "Why run so far from the camp?" An avalanche doesn't just keep on happening. So if they were awakened when hit by an avalanche, trapped in the tent, had to cut their way out, Why leave their supplies? The avalanche is over, the immediate threat has passed and the extreme danger of exposure is now in play. Wouldn't at least one of these experienced hikers want to stay and dig out their survival gear, rather than running blindly into the night? It seems that there was an ongoing threat they were facing, something convinced them that staying at the tent put them in immediate and mortal danger. We will never know the "truth" behind this, it will always be a mystery, and though the incident is horrible, it is kind of fun to speculate on it and/or try and solve it.
you are right. Actually the tent wasn't even burried, it was barely hit by some small slide. Also even if they were hearing another "avalanche" ( don't see how that was possible) still it doesn't make sense to run more than 90 seconds away from it because you would have obviously been already caught. They ran at least 15 minutes( if they actually ran) or walk( as I saw mentioned a few times) at least 30 minutes from an "avalanche"... It just doesn't make sense.
Avalanches usually aren't "just over" the snow shelfs remain pretty unstable after the fact.
The avalanche could've happened after they were struck by whatever force that drove them out of the tents without protective clothing.
Yeah and what force was that? lol
if you search Dyatlov pass,zoom in next to the black spot,you will see a long tree sticking up,look next to it,after zoom in on the white in the middle of the black spot,once you see that go done and at the end of the thing at the bottom of the dot you will see a figure EDIT:it's like at a 45 angle from the dot
I'd like one question answered, that I feel is a good one. The 3 bodies found buried in the ravine were the furthest from camp, so how did an avalanche deposit them there while still leaving visible footprints for 24 days afterwards? If the avalanche caused them to leave the tent in a panic, the advancing snow would surely bury all the footprints. I mean, we're to believe that it deposited 3 bodies, with severe injuries, some distance away. Case closed imo, the avalanche story is just to close the case.
it's a snow slab that fell off the top of a vertical wall- that they dug out of the hillside... it's like one big chunk of snow that collapsed on the tent...and caused them to think there was an avalanche imminent- as they were crushed and cut themselves out of the tent and fled what they thought was an imminent avalanche- but it wasn't an avalanche... that was the theory; that explains why they would flee the tent so fast and cut the tent... because they were knowledgeable about avalanches enough to think one was imminent. it makes sense; we don't know if that was after the aliens hit them with ray guns or before the small nuclear bomb was detonated
I don't think anyone was claiming the avalanche deposited them. I believe the theory is that it originally injured them and caused them to flee/abandon the tents. Hence the cuts from the inside after the slab fell on them.
29 days and buried bodies. But footprints still clearly visible... cmon guys🤦♂️
What are you implying?
how about radiation, tongues, eyes missing ?
Radiation:
3 of them worked in a nuclear facility nearby and lanterns at the time contained small radiation
Tongues and eyes: decomposition, it took them 2 months to find the bodies, it could also be any animal
@@franciscosansalone Pretty sure tongues don't decompose, Atleast that way, but I have a theory.
They could have tried to escape (some of them) and maybe the woman fell and bit her tongue off, And the eyes could have decomposed or maybe animals at them.
Wait, I remember reading an article about this.. The mountains they were on supposedly had no animals
The radiation came from their lanterns and the missing eyeballs and tongues were of frost bite and animals. I add frost bite, because it gave a cleaner break, which is why they don’t appear to have been chewed off by animals.
I get that a avalanche could be the cause and animals could have eaten body parts, but why didnt the survivors grab any clothes after the accident? I mean they had to have taken the time to drag out their wounded friends from the tents. It must have been apparent that they would freeze to death without it
they could have been in a rush and also when people get hypothermia sometimes they start to undress; I don’t know why this happens, but you can look it up
Well i guess animal in the 1959 only eat eyeballs, tongue, and eyebrows. Why not eat the lips or nose or some other body parts, lmao
Maybe they were panicking and wanted to clear out of the avalanche zone.
Hypothermia makes you fell hot most people take their clothes off
@@titus4702 it also could have been decomposition, snow and cold slow decomposition down but don't stop it, the eyeballs are one of the first things to decompose (consider it took them 2 months to find the bodies)
The Avalanche does not explain why the group behaved the way they did. They seperated from each other and paniced.
Ultra cold catabatic wind explains. It can be so cold that in seconds it can feel like thousand ice shards is crushing your bones. The wind started, the group paniced and tried to run away from the coldness. Nothing else explains their behavior in my opinion.
Thats always been my question, these were all experienced hikers familiar with the area. So what was such an immediate threat they felt the need to cut their shelter open and leave literally all the tools they need to survive behind? What caused them such panic that they felt the need to walk over 1000m just to separate themselves and not attempt to travel in a huddle for warmth?