There was a blow out sale at a local music store years ago and baught one ply coated Attack heads for my toms and used them w no muffling for ever at a low tunning and they sounded consistently awesome and served me well for a very long time.
They are not as widely used as other name brands. If I remember correctly they are cheaper but not necessarily cheaply made. Terry Bozzio has used them for years and they make a signature snare head for the drummer of legendary death metal band Cannibal Corpse.
I've gone to all Attack Heads on my Tama Starclassic Maples and Starphonic Bubinga snare. I'm using the clear Royal 1 on my toms (coated batter on my floor tom), the Orbit 2 on the bass (with their Proflex 1 black bass on the front), and a coated Royal 1 (no overtone ring) on my snare batter. Absolutely love the beautiful tone I get with all these heads! The coating is by far the most durable I've ever seen. I just can't hardly wear it out... even playing a lot of brushes. The Orbit took a bit of experimentation with tuning to find the sound I wanted. It seems to be a lower pitch for a given tension compared to the Remo PS3 I had on there before. But once I figured that out, I really, really like it a lot! Very glad to see you guys reviewing these heads!
Thank you for actually HITTING the drum! I cannot stand it when I see a product demo for a head or snare, and the whole time, the presenter just hits the drum with his purse
I've got a couple of the single ply medium weight no overtone heads. They're pretty durable and sound great. Will have to give the centre dot a go. Great vid mate 👍
I am using an Attack Baron for one of my gigs. I snare is a Yamaha Rock Tour Custom, 6.5x14. The head has been on one month so far. The recorded playback sounds great, medium tuning, no extra muffling. Tuning is consistent. They are from Cardinal Percussion. Excellent company. Also check out their Orbit Bass Drum Head, batter and resonant.
Thanks man for all that you do definitely a gem of a resource for drummers I’m a bass player so I definitely appreciate these kind of things helps me do my job better
Yeah! We're really digging those other heads as well (details in the description). Hope to see more global distribution for these in the near future. Be sure to ask your local shop to carry them as demand is what feeds these arrangements. Cheers! -Ben
Please ask you favorite store for the Attack Drumhead brand - it’s the only way the brand can grow into other countries. We can be reached at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
Excellent demo. I have an old Yamaha Stage kit (from 1987) with the Terry Bozzio signature Attack heads (from 2009?). They sound great. It'd be interesting to compare heads of this type from all manufacturers.
I *really* dig that high tuning. I am about to do head changes on my Black Beauty, and have no plan in particular. Might try out the Baron for the batter side.
Thanks for the insight into this head! When I was exploring this company I was ver interested in it. I'm curious to see longer term what your thoughts with Attack heads is. The set of heads that I was sent for my kit seemed great out of the box but around the 1 month mark I started having a bunch of issues with the coating wearing off on my snare batter (Royal 1 w/the over tone ring) and the 18" head not fitting on my floor tom(to be clear that issue didn't appear a month in, but right out of the gate). I also found the tom batters (don't remember what they were, but they were 2 ply clear with what looked like a bit of something to cause tone control on the outside edges) the tom batters seemed to lose their "life" really quickly and they just sounded dead and thumpy compared to what I'm used to (either a coated Ambassador or UV1). Not meaning to be negative about the company, but I look forward to hearing more about what you guys think about them. Sorry for the paragraph. lol
Every time I ran into a drum with an Attack head it has sounded great, just couldn't find them in the stores. Well that's a terrible excuse now and I will be investigating their current lines, thanks for the reminder of this brand! Love your videos and recommend them to my colleagues and students.
Please asked your favorite store for the Attack Drumhead brand. It’s the only way for the brand to get into different territories. The store can reach us at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
Nice placement for Attack, last I saw their name was in that Hilary Jones fiasco. This head seems accepting to all sort of diversity, positive move for Attack.
I just ordered this Drum Head pack and the Logic Dot Pack... Both packs include Snareside Heads and Snare Wires. I ordered Thinskin 2 Coated Heads and Proflex 1 Clears for Toms ... Proflex 1 No Overtone Bass Drum Heads and Orbit Head
Brushes with a top dot? They used to have Terry Bozzio signature heads that were single ply medium weight (coated or clear) heads & the only heads they made with DuPont Mylar. Same crimped counter hoop. The coating seemed heavier than other brands but, the heads sounded great. I still have ons as a batter on one snare & a bottom head on another snare.
I preferred crimped hoops because the glue (it didn’t matter if it was Remo or Evans) would eventually break free of the hoop. Not from high tension as some people will comment but from a lot of use. It happens more when the rim is not perfectly round whether it is dented from a drop or came manufactured like that because it was missed in QC. I’m happy to see Attack still using this method.
And of course the high tension requirements in Drum and Bugle Corp, college and high school percussion causes glue hoops to pop out which is why Remo and Evans does it on marching heads only.
First! Thanks a bunch to you and your team, you guys put a top-notch product for us on these videos, which is-actual drum experience and dedication. Now, I play on a renown-gretsch and a Tama-starphonic brass snare, I play for cover bands, with Latin-percussion tracks, so I’m required to play a solid punchy back beat for a rock/funk song and be able to switch to a bossa the next song, if I decide to switch my whole kit to Attack heads what would be your recommendation/s??
Thanks for the kind words! Glad to hear that you’re enjoying the videos. There are a lot of great options in their lineup and we’ve only just begun scratching the surface. The Royal1 Rev Dot or the Baron work out very nicely on snare. We’ve got the ThinSkin2 model on the toms and are SUPER happy with them. Orbit2 system is on the kick and we dig them but are also excited to try some of the other models. I’m confident you could find the sound you’re looking for with some fine tuning. Cheers! -Ben
This is wild! I used to endorse Attack and even talked about partnering with an investor to buy them out but at the time, they were not for sale. They always sounded phenomenal but their film was significantly less durable than Remo. The logo was LOOOOOONG overdue for an overhaul. Best that 16" has ever sounded on any of your videos, honestly.
Thanks again guys, always a good watch from the lads at SLaD. Great sounds! (I’d love to hear those cool Swiss-cheesed bass heads they make as well) I’ve always been impressed with Attack, they’re certainly underrated. The only reason I haven’t used them more is they’re not as widely available as they should be... I imagine there’s a kinda drumhead mafia thing going on. The ‘big boys’ make it tough for a competitor to come in and undercut them. Dudes in Fila track suits breaking flesh hoops and whatnot. I wonder if selling direct with say free shipping over $25 might be a better model for Attack - set up a well layed out website where I can hear sound samples of different heads, and add to cart right there. Take the big box stores out of the equation, have a better/direct connection with your consumer, and build the brand - simultaneously. This consultation is free, but if the folks at Attack would like to consult further - I will work for drumheads! Seriously.
Thanks! The bass drum heads are actually the Orbit2 model (Swiss-cheese style) and will be covered in the future. In speaking with the team at Cardinal Percussion (owners of Attack Drumheads and product distributors) I don't think they're interested in direct sales as they want to support the music stores (something we REALLY need right now). Having consulted in e-commerce and UX, I'd recommend the same thing but I also really want to see the music stores survive so it would be great to develop the system you're describing (perhaps with video too...?) and direct links to stores carrying the heads. As the brand is a relatively new addition to the Cardinal Percussion portfolio, hopefully we'll see something like this in the not-too-distant future. Cheers! -Ben
Please asked your favorite store for the Attack Drumhead brand. It’s the only way for the brand to get into different territories. The store can reach us at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
I was digging on the floor Tom. Is there an attack head on the bottom as well as the top? And what are the mills. Did the snare head stay the same on all three tunings?
I bought one two weeks ago, special ordered it through Sweetwater and Cardinal Percussion. I put it on my 14x6 1/2 Pearl Free Floating Phosphorus Bronze snare. It sounded best at the high tuning. I play in a Skynyrd tribute band so I like my snare tuned lower. I did not care for the over ring. I plan on using it for a more “modern” project. Thanks for all of your videos!
The BARON has our “micro” no overtone ring under the head it was purposefully designed to “sing a bit” - if your hunting for a dryer / shorter sustain any other head we offer with the no overtone ring would do the trick for you. There’s a few to choose from. Attackdrumheads.com
I played a few different attack heads back in the 80's and they sounded just that... very 80's, but you can tell with this head that they've actually put some legit effort into their design. It seems as the co has gotten attentive to some of the more specific needs and desires that we're looking to accomplish, and I for one appreciate that. On that thought, I described a snare to you in a comment a few months back, that had been built for me. So far I've tried out a half dozen different batter heads, but at $17 to $26 bucks a pop it's beginning to get a lil costly, especially when I'm not using but a fraction of the life each head had to offer. I'm searching for a head that brings out what this drum had to offer and I'm not ready to put it in a case and pull out another because I can't get it to sound the way I know it can. Though I'm endorsed, it's called at about $2,700, and it took a bit to settle on this snare. It's too pies of birds eye maple, one ply copper, two more bird's-eye, and the inner ply is again copper. The flanged hope are a lil heavy since they were dipped in Rose gold as well as all the lugs. It has a Trick brand triple position throw off and butt plate, a standard set of snares, and the dimensions are 6.5" x 14". I'm looking for a head that has the warmth and fatness of wood but makes the copper ring like copper but without a million overtones. I tune in the upper range because I like the feel and response if a tighter head. I could really use some help getting the right head. BTW I prefer coated on my snare
Hey! Have you tried the evans hybrid coated? It has a lot of punch but still sounds pretty fat, it made my steel snare sound brass, with very few overtones. I do not know if it would damage wood bearing edges though
I'm thinking about getting the Remo Skyntone heads for my Ludwig Club Date reissue kit. I'm currently in a blues three piece band. So of course I would love to see your review of that line. Thanks for all that you do to help us out.
Hi I have been playing drums for 49 years, in the 90s I played attack single ply coated drum heads with tone ridge I loved them, I can only find that head in 14 inch now, but they are great for toms!! I didn't like the 2 ply with tone ridge near as much!! Please let me know if attack has the single ply coated with tone ridge for toms.
Great Vid.. Always enjoy your playing Cody. I'll keep an eye out for these heads, they sound great but I don't know about the RED dot though. wondering if they do a standard two-ply coated.
Cody it's so weird because a few months ago I got the idea to cut circles from red plastic folders I had laying around cut to the size of remo cs drumhead dots placed center for tom, snare and kick, adhered with double sided sticky sheet adhesive. The drums sounded thick and boxy if you will. Rather bassy with almost non existant over tones. Very different sound I've heard from any head. Very 80's effect like!
Man, I haven't seen Attack heads since 1992. They never sold well against Remo and Evans, but this head sounds pretty good. Honestly, what doesn't sound good on that drum though? ;)
They're definitely about to experience a bit of a rebirth. Lots of other interesting products in their line as well! We're really excited to dig in over the course of the next while.
Noice! But not sure I will be able to get them in my far flung part of the world. I often have to wait several weeks for local store to get me a bog standard Remo snare side. ;). But good work giving those other than the big names a shout out. I'm still saving for an Offbeat snare you featured a while back.
Definitely a challenge to get some of this gear in all parts of the world. We're really grateful for Cardinal Percussion jumping onboard to support the channel through featuring a range of their heads. Glad you dug that Offbeat snare- Jordan is doing some fine work!
Please asked your favorite store for the Attack Drumhead brand. It’s the only way for the brand to get into different territories. The store can reach us at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
Non-sequitur, but Ludwig heads (the ones that were/are actually made by Ludwig, not branded as Ludwig) used crimped hoops that were guaranteed not to pull out. I think the Ludwig hoop design was patented, although the patent may have lapsed. In any event, the crimped hoop, as you mention, makes for a much lighter hoop than one using epoxy to bond the mylar to the hoop. And there's no cracking when you first mount the head.
Kinda looks like the Aquarian collar design. Been curious about the re-branding of Attack heads but gotta tell ya, seeing the visible dents in the head at 1:52 is concerning, that thing looks beat to hell (and i know you guys aren't bashers)! Would love to see a feature on the Orbit kick head, those seem promising.
To be fair, we tuned this thing all across the range while we were experimenting and hit decently hard at a low tuning too. We wanted to abuse the thing and see how it held up. There's minimal wear on it after we removed it from the drum and nothing we're not used to seeing. Keep an eye out for more features in the coming months! -Ben
Great gear feature, really let us know what the heads are like. Along the same vain, is there any chance you can do something with practice systems, like the Sound-offs and others? With a lot of the world in lockdown it could be rally helpful for people.
We dove into the Sound-Off mesh heads here as part of a tuning tutorial: th-cam.com/video/KyoK-MBf7Do/w-d-xo.html Product Features are supported by the brand being represented so other products are dependent on the manufacturer supporting them.
I'm a Remo guy and given the fact that Remo's cheaper Encore-series heads have crimped hoops, as well, makes me a little suspicious of other brands not glueing their heads to the hoops (I am aware of marching heads having crimped hoops, as well). Also, I think you could mix a little more of the room into your examples, to make us hear more what you're hearing, when playing the drum. I must admit, that I don't listen to your videos with headphones, but I think it should sound good either way. By the way: I'm almost always sensing a gate during your examples. Is there something wrong with my speakers? Thanks a ton for your efforts, as always! Love your channel!
Key thing to remember: crimping doesn’t mean lower quality but rather a different manufacturing process. In the end, the proof is on the performance. With regards to the mix, I appreciate the feedback. The primary sound source is the C414 at ear-level over Cody’s shoulder with the close mics dialed in to represent what we’re hearing in the room. This actually sounds quite close to what you’d hear in the room but the room does have acoustic treatment so it’s not quite as “live” as one might expect. We’re not using any EQ, compression, or gates. More alternate mixes (room mic only, etc.) of certain demos will be included on our Patreon if you’re interested.
hi guys! i'd like you to try my trick to have my own batter snare head. i take a clear G1 and i add a 4 inches diameter center dot under. not on top. this the fullest sound i ever experienced. it pops so hard ans sings too. rimshots are similar to the baron in this video. i make the dots with a black vinyl paper. if you want to dry the sound like HD dry system. take a lighter and a thin needle and stab the head between the lugs at 2/2.5 inches from the hoop. you end up with a funky poppy snare drum like OMG.
So there are a couple of things to clarify- Evans has provided drumheads in the past for our Tuesday Tutorial videos but they have never sponsored us (no monetary support). We define this as a "Production Partner". We hope to continue to use Evans heads for our tutorials as we have the greatest amount of experience with them and I was closely involved with design/development of several of their models over the course of time that I worked for D'Addario. Attack Drumheads contacted us about sponsoring some Product Feature videos and we were excited to check out their product line and present our thoughts along with some demonstrations. So far we're having a blast putting them "under the microscope" here. We'd be open to doing this with Remo and Aquarian as well if they're interested in supporting our efforts. Cheers! -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum alright...thank you very much,for the info on things..that makes sense..i didnt know what the deal was with brands ect..was first time i didn't see evans being used ..made me wonder,thats all..😁✔✔..good explanation..keep up the good videos..thanks..🎶🎵🎼👍
I bought one and tested it out over a couple of days. I don't dampen as I feel like dampening reduces playability. Even when I tune this as high as it goes it still feels like it has a ring or tape on it with a dead feel. I was hoping to find a nice compromise with this but oh well. Looks cool.
Just wondering, has pearl or Ludwig ever approached you guys? If not they sure should.So much of your post is involving the use of a pearl kit and Ludwig supra. I think you folks would be surprised if you only knew how many people have bought these kits or snares do to the way you make them perform and sound.Just maybe pearl and Ludwig should throw some Dow your way for all the free advertising. You folks are the best on utube for what you do for the drumming community. Thank you.
Question: what is the red portion made of? I've had heads on the "bad old days" with black ink that literally covered your cymbals? Shame they don't yet make a Baron for 13" drums! I'd love this combo for my 13x7.5.
It appears to be a thinner polyester film (like the primary drumhead surface) with a single-sided adhesive. Didn’t notice any color transfer whatsoever. -Ben
@@Eurodrummer666 As far as I remember it was a small drum shop in Hamburg...already closed...but let's wait, maybe the company will make them available to Europe, soon.
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Promark was the Presenting Sponsor (financial support) for our second season of tutorial videos but had to cut that budget for 2020. Both Evans and Promark are still Production Partners (providing product) for our tutorials though we haven't been able to place a product order since the pandemic. Product features are supported by the brand represented and are outside of our Tuesday Tutorial series. We've been grateful for the support of our Patreon members for making it possible for us to even produce a third season. Without them we would have been forced to hold off for quite some time and there's no guarantee we would have been able to start up again. If you'd like to support the series AND gain access to additional content (including a forthcoming Patreon-exclusive cymbal series!) please consider joining: sladl.ink/Patreon
A Ludwig Supraphonic is a poor choice for testing heads. Those drums, as do Suprasensitives, sound great with a wet burlap sack as a head! OK, maybe that's going too far but you get the idea! See if it makes a cheap drum sound good!
I've gotta disagree- they can sound quite bad when poorly tuned or with poor quality heads. We gravitate towards this drum because it's relatively transparent as far as the tone of the head coming through and we've also used it in a TON of our videos, making it an excellent reference point. These drums can be had for ~$250 too so they're quite affordable by comparison. I wouldn't ever think about a head making a drum sound better but rather a head either allowing the shell sound to come across quite clearly or affecting the tone. In the end it's all relative Cheers! -Ben
Hi, great video again, Thank you but doesn’t like the sound of that snare head. I think there is no presence, body! Question of taste of course. It doesn’t give justice to the sound of the LM400.
Interesting, as that's not really what our take was but to each their own! We like to use the LM400 as we've consistently used it as the primary snare drum throughout this series and it serves as a nice constant for reference. Thanks for watching! -Ben
D’Addario doesn’t have any control over our channel. They provide drumheads for our tutorial series. They’re not a sponsor and they don’t have exclusivity over our channel. We will continue to experiment with and demonstrate a range of instruments and accessories. Thanks for watching!
All good- Just want to make sure that’s clear. Not everyone understands our approach to working with brands. There are so many misconceptions out there about how things work with regards to product support vs. sponsorships, etc. Cheers!
No need to apologize. Not every head is for everyone/every use and not every sound is perceived the same by everyone. We happen to think that this head produced a great sound suitable to quite a few applications and it manages the low tuning range quite nicely. Still, there are some heads that we’ll be checking out in the future that might be better geared towards that. Thanks for watching!
Never been a fan of a dot on my snare. Toms, maybe. Ludwig has been crimping with an insert since the 60's. Remo invented the CS batter. This is a unneeded copy. I'm sure anybody under 13 would love the clown dot. Lol
That's totally fine if you're not into it. Generally we aren't either but this one surprised us in feel and performance. Are other companies doing certain elements of what's shown here? Of course! But a coated head with a top dot and a mild control ring is only available as the Baron from Attack.
When he said “the first thing you’ll notice when you pick it up is the hoop” ...uhh not the giant red dot in the middle? Lol
Plenty of heads out there with dots, can’t remember the last time I saw a drumhead with a hoop that wasn’t raw aluminum or white coated...
Sounds Like A Drum haha I suppose that’s true! Though a bright red dot is pretty unique! Love your channel, thank you for all the great content.
Technically when u taking it out the box u may see the hoop first lol
I have same attack drumhead more than 20 years on my Rogers snare and it's still sounds amazing.
There was a blow out sale at a local music store years ago and baught one ply coated Attack heads for my toms and used them w no muffling for ever at a low tunning and they sounded consistently awesome and served me well for a very long time.
Watch his eyes when he rim shots it the first time with high tuning. It's like... wtf. Nice!
Also he lost a bit of weight. Cool.
Amazing sound with the snares off. Very cool all around.
That one got some money in! Glad for you guys!
I’ve been really curious to try Attack Drumheads! This seals the deal.
They are not as widely used as other name brands. If I remember correctly they are cheaper but not necessarily cheaply made. Terry Bozzio has used them for years and they make a signature snare head for the drummer of legendary death metal band Cannibal Corpse.
The band Live when they did their unplugged Attack heads were on Chad Gracey's kit. Sounded fantastic!
Did they sound like...lightning....crashes?
I've gone to all Attack Heads on my Tama Starclassic Maples and Starphonic Bubinga snare. I'm using the clear Royal 1 on my toms (coated batter on my floor tom), the Orbit 2 on the bass (with their Proflex 1 black bass on the front), and a coated Royal 1 (no overtone ring) on my snare batter. Absolutely love the beautiful tone I get with all these heads! The coating is by far the most durable I've ever seen. I just can't hardly wear it out... even playing a lot of brushes. The Orbit took a bit of experimentation with tuning to find the sound I wanted. It seems to be a lower pitch for a given tension compared to the Remo PS3 I had on there before. But once I figured that out, I really, really like it a lot! Very glad to see you guys reviewing these heads!
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These sound awesome. You guys can make anything sound awesome :). Great demo, really enjoyed it!
Thanks! Just gotta tune the drum- truly as simple as that.
I used to buy those Terry Bozzio snare packs back in the day. Great
Thank you for actually HITTING the drum! I cannot stand it when I see a product demo for a head or snare, and the whole time, the presenter just hits the drum with his purse
Sounds great man, I really dig the low tuning. And when u add the bandana to it- that’s the sound I’m really into right now. Love it. Good stuff!
I'm stoked on this snare drum head. We put it on an 80's Premier Black Shadow and it slams.
The facial expression you made at 6:17 is all the review I need to check these heads out as soon as I can find somewhere in the UK to get them!
Please reach out to your favorite store and ask for the Attack Drumhead brand. The stores can reach us at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
I've got a couple of the single ply medium weight no overtone heads.
They're pretty durable and sound great.
Will have to give the centre dot a go.
Great vid mate 👍
I am using an Attack Baron for one of my gigs. I snare is a Yamaha Rock Tour Custom, 6.5x14. The head has been on one month so far. The recorded playback sounds great, medium tuning, no extra muffling. Tuning is consistent. They are from Cardinal Percussion. Excellent company. Also check out their Orbit Bass Drum Head, batter and resonant.
Nice! We’re digging what the team at Cardinal Percussion has been working on. We’ve actually got the Orbit heads on the kick drum in this video too!
Thanks for your videos. Question , what is the promark stick you use mostly. Nice traditional technique too!
Thanks man for all that you do definitely a gem of a resource for drummers I’m a bass player so I definitely appreciate these kind of things helps me do my job better
Also an engineer
Thank you video editor for S.L.A.D. the little animations for each drum hit is really well done.
Glad you enjoyed them! -Ben
The floor tom sounded preeeeetty. The mediumtuning was fantastic. Its a pity that here in germany no musicstore is distributing them
Yeah! We're really digging those other heads as well (details in the description). Hope to see more global distribution for these in the near future. Be sure to ask your local shop to carry them as demand is what feeds these arrangements. Cheers! -Ben
Yea last time I saw Attack heads in a shop I bought them all
Please ask you favorite store for the Attack Drumhead brand - it’s the only way the brand can grow into other countries. We can be reached at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
Excellent demo. I have an old Yamaha Stage kit (from 1987) with the Terry Bozzio signature Attack heads (from 2009?). They sound great. It'd be interesting to compare heads of this type from all manufacturers.
I *really* dig that high tuning. I am about to do head changes on my Black Beauty, and have no plan in particular. Might try out the Baron for the batter side.
Thanks for the insight into this head! When I was exploring this company I was ver interested in it. I'm curious to see longer term what your thoughts with Attack heads is. The set of heads that I was sent for my kit seemed great out of the box but around the 1 month mark I started having a bunch of issues with the coating wearing off on my snare batter (Royal 1 w/the over tone ring) and the 18" head not fitting on my floor tom(to be clear that issue didn't appear a month in, but right out of the gate). I also found the tom batters (don't remember what they were, but they were 2 ply clear with what looked like a bit of something to cause tone control on the outside edges) the tom batters seemed to lose their "life" really quickly and they just sounded dead and thumpy compared to what I'm used to (either a coated Ambassador or UV1). Not meaning to be negative about the company, but I look forward to hearing more about what you guys think about them. Sorry for the paragraph. lol
I really like this nking of videos ! I really want to ear more about those heads, maybe a more thin and jazz oriented head. Amazing video as always !
Thanks! More product features coming soon!
Every time I ran into a drum with an Attack head it has sounded great, just couldn't find them in the stores. Well that's a terrible excuse now and I will be investigating their current lines, thanks for the reminder of this brand! Love your videos and recommend them to my colleagues and students.
Please asked your favorite store for the Attack Drumhead brand. It’s the only way for the brand to get into different territories. The store can reach us at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
Nice placement for Attack, last I saw their name was in that Hilary Jones fiasco. This head seems accepting to all sort of diversity, positive move for Attack.
We're excited to see what they do next! Keep an eye out for more videos with their heads in the coming months. Cheers! -Ben
I just ordered this Drum Head pack and the Logic Dot Pack... Both packs include Snareside Heads and Snare Wires. I ordered Thinskin 2 Coated Heads and Proflex 1 Clears for Toms ... Proflex 1 No Overtone Bass Drum Heads and Orbit Head
Attack heads sound great!
Really like it up high and it’s definitely not the type I’d ordinarily choose either.
Thanks for the knowledge.
I'm usually not drawn to high tunings, but DAMN did that high tuning sound good
Also, usually a middle-of-the-head player, but DAMN did that high tuning rimshot sound good
Best drum channel in YT!
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Brushes with a top dot? They used to have Terry Bozzio signature heads that were single ply medium weight (coated or clear) heads & the only heads they made with DuPont Mylar. Same crimped counter hoop. The coating seemed heavier than other brands but, the heads sounded great. I still have ons as a batter on one snare & a bottom head on another snare.
Iam sold. Great review!!! Thanks
I preferred crimped hoops because the glue (it didn’t matter if it was Remo or Evans) would eventually break free of the hoop. Not from high tension as some people will comment but from a lot of use. It happens more when the rim is not perfectly round whether it is dented from a drop or came manufactured like that because it was missed in QC. I’m happy to see Attack still using this method.
And of course the high tension requirements in Drum and Bugle Corp, college and high school percussion causes glue hoops to pop out which is why Remo and Evans does it on marching heads only.
I like the sound. Definitely more balanced without choking or ringing too much.
First! Thanks a bunch to you and your team, you guys put a top-notch product for us on these videos, which is-actual drum experience and dedication. Now, I play on a renown-gretsch and a Tama-starphonic brass snare, I play for cover bands, with Latin-percussion tracks, so I’m required to play a solid punchy back beat for a rock/funk song and be able to switch to a bossa the next song, if I decide to switch my whole kit to Attack heads what would be your recommendation/s??
Thanks for the kind words! Glad to hear that you’re enjoying the videos. There are a lot of great options in their lineup and we’ve only just begun scratching the surface. The Royal1 Rev Dot or the Baron work out very nicely on snare. We’ve got the ThinSkin2 model on the toms and are SUPER happy with them. Orbit2 system is on the kick and we dig them but are also excited to try some of the other models. I’m confident you could find the sound you’re looking for with some fine tuning. Cheers! -Ben
dude, thats MY snare too, 1971 ludwig kit!!!!
This is wild! I used to endorse Attack and even talked about partnering with an investor to buy them out but at the time, they were not for sale. They always sounded phenomenal but their film was significantly less durable than Remo. The logo was LOOOOOONG overdue for an overhaul. Best that 16" has ever sounded on any of your videos, honestly.
Depending on the series - we do offer the Royal series with the DuPont S1 film same film used as other brands.
What crash/ride were you using in this video? Sounds fantastic.
Thanks again guys, always a good watch from the lads at SLaD.
Great sounds! (I’d love to hear those cool Swiss-cheesed bass heads they make as well) I’ve always been impressed with Attack, they’re certainly underrated. The only reason I haven’t used them more is they’re not as widely available as they should be... I imagine there’s a kinda drumhead mafia thing going on. The ‘big boys’ make it tough for a competitor to come in and undercut them. Dudes in Fila track suits breaking flesh hoops and whatnot.
I wonder if selling direct with say free shipping over $25 might be a better model for Attack - set up a well layed out website where I can hear sound samples of different heads, and add to cart right there. Take the big box stores out of the equation, have a better/direct connection with your consumer, and build the brand - simultaneously.
This consultation is free, but if the folks at Attack would like to consult further - I will work for drumheads! Seriously.
Thanks! The bass drum heads are actually the Orbit2 model (Swiss-cheese style) and will be covered in the future. In speaking with the team at Cardinal Percussion (owners of Attack Drumheads and product distributors) I don't think they're interested in direct sales as they want to support the music stores (something we REALLY need right now). Having consulted in e-commerce and UX, I'd recommend the same thing but I also really want to see the music stores survive so it would be great to develop the system you're describing (perhaps with video too...?) and direct links to stores carrying the heads. As the brand is a relatively new addition to the Cardinal Percussion portfolio, hopefully we'll see something like this in the not-too-distant future. Cheers! -Ben
Please asked your favorite store for the Attack Drumhead brand. It’s the only way for the brand to get into different territories. The store can reach us at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
Love your video's.....I've always played Remo !
I was digging on the floor Tom. Is there an attack head on the bottom as well as the top? And what are the mills. Did the snare head stay the same on all three tunings?
All of these details are in the video description. Only minor tweaks with tension on the snare head as I recall.
I bought one two weeks ago, special ordered it through Sweetwater and Cardinal Percussion. I put it on my 14x6 1/2 Pearl Free Floating Phosphorus Bronze snare. It sounded best at the high tuning. I play in a Skynyrd tribute band so I like my snare tuned lower. I did not care for the over ring. I plan on using it for a more “modern” project. Thanks for all of your videos!
The BARON has our “micro” no overtone ring under the head it was purposefully designed to “sing a bit” - if your hunting for a dryer / shorter sustain any other head we offer with the no overtone ring would do the trick for you. There’s a few to choose from. Attackdrumheads.com
That feel at 4:48 👌👌
Nice dampened sound across the board if you like that sound. Snares off sounds great. May have difficulties finding them when you need them.
Hopefully we’ll see some more shops adding these to their line!
I played a few different attack heads back in the 80's and they sounded just that... very 80's, but you can tell with this head that they've actually put some legit effort into their design. It seems as the co has gotten attentive to some of the more specific needs and desires that we're looking to accomplish, and I for one appreciate that. On that thought, I described a snare to you in a comment a few months back, that had been built for me. So far I've tried out a half dozen different batter heads, but at $17 to $26 bucks a pop it's beginning to get a lil costly, especially when I'm not using but a fraction of the life each head had to offer. I'm searching for a head that brings out what this drum had to offer and I'm not ready to put it in a case and pull out another because I can't get it to sound the way I know it can. Though I'm endorsed, it's called at about $2,700, and it took a bit to settle on this snare. It's too pies of birds eye maple, one ply copper, two more bird's-eye, and the inner ply is again copper. The flanged hope are a lil heavy since they were dipped in Rose gold as well as all the lugs. It has a Trick brand triple position throw off and butt plate, a standard set of snares, and the dimensions are 6.5" x 14". I'm looking for a head that has the warmth and fatness of wood but makes the copper ring like copper but without a million overtones. I tune in the upper range because I like the feel and response if a tighter head. I could really use some help getting the right head. BTW I prefer coated on my snare
Hey! Have you tried the evans hybrid coated? It has a lot of punch but still sounds pretty fat, it made my steel snare sound brass, with very few overtones. I do not know if it would damage wood bearing edges though
I'm thinking about getting the Remo Skyntone heads for my Ludwig Club Date reissue kit. I'm currently in a blues three piece band. So of course I would love to see your review of that line. Thanks for all that you do to help us out.
If Remo would like to work with us we’d be happy to cover their products as well. Be sure to let them know you’d like to see such a thing!
Hi I have been playing drums for 49 years, in the 90s I played attack single ply coated drum heads with tone ridge I loved them, I can only find that head in 14 inch now, but they are great for toms!! I didn't like the 2 ply with tone ridge near as much!! Please let me know if attack has the single ply coated with tone ridge for toms.
Great Vid.. Always enjoy your playing Cody. I'll keep an eye out for these heads, they sound great but I don't know about the RED dot though. wondering if they do a standard two-ply coated.
Thanks for the kind words! That's actually what we're using on the floor tom- ThinSkin2 coated.
Carmine Appice, Vinny Appice &Eric Singer (Badlands, Alice Cooper, Kiss, etc.) are their there biggest endorsers.
I wanna try this head but I need to check out Aquarian first.
Cody it's so weird because a few months ago I got the idea to cut circles from red plastic folders I had laying around cut to the size of remo cs drumhead dots placed center for tom, snare and kick, adhered with double sided sticky sheet adhesive. The drums sounded thick and boxy if you will. Rather bassy with almost non existant over tones. Very different sound I've heard from any head. Very 80's effect like!
Man, I haven't seen Attack heads since 1992. They never sold well against Remo and Evans, but this head sounds pretty good. Honestly, what doesn't sound good on that drum though? ;)
They're definitely about to experience a bit of a rebirth. Lots of other interesting products in their line as well! We're really excited to dig in over the course of the next while.
Noice! But not sure I will be able to get them in my far flung part of the world. I often have to wait several weeks for local store to get me a bog standard Remo snare side. ;). But good work giving those other than the big names a shout out. I'm still saving for an Offbeat snare you featured a while back.
Definitely a challenge to get some of this gear in all parts of the world. We're really grateful for Cardinal Percussion jumping onboard to support the channel through featuring a range of their heads. Glad you dug that Offbeat snare- Jordan is doing some fine work!
Please asked your favorite store for the Attack Drumhead brand. It’s the only way for the brand to get into different territories. The store can reach us at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
Non-sequitur, but Ludwig heads (the ones that were/are actually made by Ludwig, not branded as Ludwig) used crimped hoops that were guaranteed not to pull out. I think the Ludwig hoop design was patented, although the patent may have lapsed. In any event, the crimped hoop, as you mention, makes for a much lighter hoop than one using epoxy to bond the mylar to the hoop. And there's no cracking when you first mount the head.
Kinda looks like the Aquarian collar design. Been curious about the re-branding of Attack heads but gotta tell ya, seeing the visible dents in the head at 1:52 is concerning, that thing looks beat to hell (and i know you guys aren't bashers)! Would love to see a feature on the Orbit kick head, those seem promising.
To be fair, we tuned this thing all across the range while we were experimenting and hit decently hard at a low tuning too. We wanted to abuse the thing and see how it held up. There's minimal wear on it after we removed it from the drum and nothing we're not used to seeing. Keep an eye out for more features in the coming months! -Ben
Great gear feature, really let us know what the heads are like. Along the same vain, is there any chance you can do something with practice systems, like the Sound-offs and others? With a lot of the world in lockdown it could be rally helpful for people.
We dove into the Sound-Off mesh heads here as part of a tuning tutorial: th-cam.com/video/KyoK-MBf7Do/w-d-xo.html
Product Features are supported by the brand being represented so other products are dependent on the manufacturer supporting them.
Sounds great... I prefer low to medium-high tunings
are the name and color in honor to the red baron?
🤔😉
Is one of the features that it make those sound quotes when you hit it?
Wouldn’t that be cool...for the first couple of songs 😂
I'm a Remo guy and given the fact that Remo's cheaper Encore-series heads have crimped hoops, as well, makes me a little suspicious of other brands not glueing their heads to the hoops (I am aware of marching heads having crimped hoops, as well). Also, I think you could mix a little more of the room into your examples, to make us hear more what you're hearing, when playing the drum. I must admit, that I don't listen to your videos with headphones, but I think it should sound good either way. By the way: I'm almost always sensing a gate during your examples. Is there something wrong with my speakers?
Thanks a ton for your efforts, as always! Love your channel!
Key thing to remember: crimping doesn’t mean lower quality but rather a different manufacturing process. In the end, the proof is on the performance.
With regards to the mix, I appreciate the feedback. The primary sound source is the C414 at ear-level over Cody’s shoulder with the close mics dialed in to represent what we’re hearing in the room. This actually sounds quite close to what you’d hear in the room but the room does have acoustic treatment so it’s not quite as “live” as one might expect. We’re not using any EQ, compression, or gates.
More alternate mixes (room mic only, etc.) of certain demos will be included on our Patreon if you’re interested.
sheppfun Why would it cost more? It’s just one step of work for a machine to do and there’s no extra material (glue) involved.
hi guys! i'd like you to try my trick to have my own batter snare head. i take a clear G1 and i add a 4 inches diameter center dot under. not on top. this the fullest sound i ever experienced. it pops so hard ans sings too. rimshots are similar to the baron in this video. i make the dots with a black vinyl paper. if you want to dry the sound like HD dry system. take a lighter and a thin needle and stab the head between the lugs at 2/2.5 inches from the hoop. you end up with a funky poppy snare drum like OMG.
Just wondering ..i know you primarily have been using evans heads. Did you change drumhead sponsors to attack now? Thanks
So there are a couple of things to clarify- Evans has provided drumheads in the past for our Tuesday Tutorial videos but they have never sponsored us (no monetary support). We define this as a "Production Partner". We hope to continue to use Evans heads for our tutorials as we have the greatest amount of experience with them and I was closely involved with design/development of several of their models over the course of time that I worked for D'Addario.
Attack Drumheads contacted us about sponsoring some Product Feature videos and we were excited to check out their product line and present our thoughts along with some demonstrations. So far we're having a blast putting them "under the microscope" here. We'd be open to doing this with Remo and Aquarian as well if they're interested in supporting our efforts.
Cheers! -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum alright...thank you very much,for the info on things..that makes sense..i didnt know what the deal was with brands ect..was first time i didn't see evans being used ..made me wonder,thats all..😁✔✔..good explanation..keep up the good videos..thanks..🎶🎵🎼👍
I've been into attack for a while love to see some people checking them out.
We’re having a blast with them!
@Sounds Like A Drum: Can't wait time see more. Orbit 2 maybe?
You bet! Coming soon...
Thanks so much!
I bought one and tested it out over a couple of days. I don't dampen as I feel like dampening reduces playability. Even when I tune this as high as it goes it still feels like it has a ring or tape on it with a dead feel. I was hoping to find a nice compromise with this but oh well. Looks cool.
The BARON was designed to “sing” a bitter longer then any of our other heads with no overtone rings underneath.
Just wondering, has pearl or Ludwig ever approached you guys? If not they sure should.So much of your post is involving the use of a pearl kit and Ludwig supra. I think you folks would be surprised if you only knew how many people have bought these kits or snares do to the way you make them perform and sound.Just maybe pearl and Ludwig should throw some Dow your way for all the free advertising. You folks are the best on utube for what you do for the drumming community. Thank you.
Question: what is the red portion made of? I've had heads on the "bad old days" with black ink that literally covered your cymbals? Shame they don't yet make a Baron for 13" drums! I'd love this combo for my 13x7.5.
It appears to be a thinner polyester film (like the primary drumhead surface) with a single-sided adhesive. Didn’t notice any color transfer whatsoever. -Ben
BTW- I believe they’re going to have these in 13” as well.
@@SoundsLikeADrum Not currently listed on the website. :-\ But that would be great.
Yep, that’s why I can’t 100% confirm but if you email them they’re great about getting back to you.
@@TomBelknapRoc we have a BARON13
Attack drumheads have never been imported here in Europe, so they are kind of a mystery to us.
Hopefully we’ll see that change!
I‘m from Germany and I still do have some Attack drum heads in one of my cases...bought them arround 2006...so Europe‘s drummers know about them....
@@drumpromay where do you buy them? Thomann and Music Store do not sell them...
@@Eurodrummer666 As far as I remember it was a small drum shop in Hamburg...already closed...but let's wait, maybe the company will make them available to Europe, soon.
Please asked your favorite store for the Attack Drumhead brand. It’s the only way for the brand to get into different territories. The store can reach us at sales@cardinalpercussion.com
The intro music is missing the brushes and the sticks hitting the floor and that really threw me off.
All of this will soon change...
are you guys not sponsored by D'Addario anymore? sorry to hear that
Promark was the Presenting Sponsor (financial support) for our second season of tutorial videos but had to cut that budget for 2020. Both Evans and Promark are still Production Partners (providing product) for our tutorials though we haven't been able to place a product order since the pandemic. Product features are supported by the brand represented and are outside of our Tuesday Tutorial series.
We've been grateful for the support of our Patreon members for making it possible for us to even produce a third season. Without them we would have been forced to hold off for quite some time and there's no guarantee we would have been able to start up again. If you'd like to support the series AND gain access to additional content (including a forthcoming Patreon-exclusive cymbal series!) please consider joining: sladl.ink/Patreon
Attack drum head. Made in Japan 🇯🇵🤣🤣
Ha!
A Ludwig Supraphonic is a poor choice for testing heads. Those drums, as do Suprasensitives, sound great with a wet burlap sack as a head! OK, maybe that's going too far but you get the idea! See if it makes a cheap drum sound good!
I've gotta disagree- they can sound quite bad when poorly tuned or with poor quality heads. We gravitate towards this drum because it's relatively transparent as far as the tone of the head coming through and we've also used it in a TON of our videos, making it an excellent reference point. These drums can be had for ~$250 too so they're quite affordable by comparison. I wouldn't ever think about a head making a drum sound better but rather a head either allowing the shell sound to come across quite clearly or affecting the tone. In the end it's all relative Cheers! -Ben
Hi, great video again, Thank you but doesn’t like the sound of that snare head. I think there is no presence, body! Question of taste of course. It doesn’t give justice to the sound of the LM400.
Interesting, as that's not really what our take was but to each their own! We like to use the LM400 as we've consistently used it as the primary snare drum throughout this series and it serves as a nice constant for reference. Thanks for watching! -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum Evans G12 was a better sound ;)
Or simply a different sound better suited for a different purpose.
D'Addario allowed this?! LOL
D’Addario doesn’t have any control over our channel. They provide drumheads for our tutorial series. They’re not a sponsor and they don’t have exclusivity over our channel. We will continue to experiment with and demonstrate a range of instruments and accessories. Thanks for watching!
@@SoundsLikeADrum I know, I was just messing around, sorry if I offended. Thanks for another great vid! Can't wait to hear the rest of their heads.
All good- Just want to make sure that’s clear. Not everyone understands our approach to working with brands. There are so many misconceptions out there about how things work with regards to product support vs. sponsorships, etc. Cheers!
Sorry but, since my favorite range is low tunning, I can't say I could have use for it. I can say it sounded like a steel can.
No need to apologize. Not every head is for everyone/every use and not every sound is perceived the same by everyone. We happen to think that this head produced a great sound suitable to quite a few applications and it manages the low tuning range quite nicely. Still, there are some heads that we’ll be checking out in the future that might be better geared towards that. Thanks for watching!
Never been a fan of a dot on my snare. Toms, maybe. Ludwig has been crimping with an insert since the 60's. Remo invented the CS batter. This is a unneeded copy. I'm sure anybody under 13 would love the clown dot. Lol
That's totally fine if you're not into it. Generally we aren't either but this one surprised us in feel and performance. Are other companies doing certain elements of what's shown here? Of course! But a coated head with a top dot and a mild control ring is only available as the Baron from Attack.
@@SoundsLikeADrum Yeah, everyone is struggling to be unique. Must be tough out there with all of the companies making heads.
Many different options to choose from. The BARON is by far one our best selling skus. Please visit the site attackdrumheads.com
That snare drum head looks like it got stolen from a circus XD, I'm sorry but i'm not a fan...
Plenty of other options- not everything is for everyone. 👍🏻