True. The flag popularly known as the rebel flag wasn’t the actual confederate flag. It was only a battle flag used in battle primarily by the army of northern Virginia.
@@nole8923 My Map shows from “Top” of Virginia to “Bottom” of Texas Was Part Of The South. “DEMOCRAT”. So Who Carried The Rebal Flag? Abraham Lincoln Southern Republicans? Lmfao The North Republican Union Flag Was The American Flag With 32 Stars! I Guess Southern Democrats Didn’t Carry a Flag Evidently? Please Show Me The Southern Democrats Flag carried in the civil War Please, I Guess I’ve Never Seen One Before!
@@TonyKastigar-uh6duThe flag of the Confederate States consisted of seven white stars circled on a blue canton (square) with a field of three alternating stripes, two red and one white. The stars represent the seven seceded states of the U.S. Deep South. Is your Google machine broke? Do a little research, save yourself from embarrassment. I'm just saying...
@ That was just 1 of 4 flags the confederates had, Said Google! Lol I’m just Starting to learn about the civil war very confusing especially The Rebal Battle Flag and who actually Carried it. I always thought it was the Southern flag Your saying it isn’t? Google shows the Rebal Flag as 1 of 4 confederate flags. I don’t know. So Much disinformation I guess.
Same at Wilson's Creek in Missouri during August 1861. Uniforms and flag not really standardized then and a Confederate unit wearing blue uniforms were mistaken for friendly forces.
Eugene B. Sledge wrote in his WW2 memoirs of the battle of Okinawa, and im paraphrasing; When Shuri Castle was taken by US forces General Simon B. Buckner jr. asked for a flag to raise above the castle but none could be found. He removed his father, Confederate General Simon B. Buckner's battle flag from his pack and raised it above the castle. All the southerners on the line gave a loud rebel yell and it scared the hell out of the Japanese.
the last confederate flag was white. and sherman's curse has made sure it will stay that way. dont forget WHY you are eating those black eyed peas while you honor an army of lazy traitors
It's funny how they got rid of the old Georgian flag for having the confederate cross, just to replace it with the actual CSA flag with the state seal slapped on it.
Nova-russian flag the Ukrainian rebels use is literally the confederate flag without the stars. It's been used by the Russian navy for a very long time as well.
@@whatsmolly5741 those have unrelated origins. But there is a face tattooed American political schizo who runs are barbershop in Moscow, have both flags in his shop. He's a fan of the Robert E Lee, and Stalin. He probably got the Georgias confused. He has Iron Cross and neo-Nazi tattoos. But gives WW2 Soviet veterns and Russian Communist Party member free haircuts. He's also big Z supporter, he litterally tattooed a Z on his face.
There’s actually a motion to change it finally which im all for Rumor has it that the new flag will have the symbol of a phoenix to represent the rebirth after the destruction of Atlanta. Sounds bad ass lol
It's hilarious indeed. The "rebel" flag is the only Confederate flag that's controversial. Although understandable considering it's use during desegregation. The "rebel" Confederate Georgia flag is actually on me as that's where I'm from and grew up with a strong Lost Cause myth narrative. It's an interesting issue but people tend to only repeat the same things. It's either an ignorant redneck yelling about their heritage in-between Trump rants. Or people arrogantly saying it was about slavery without any specific context of the issue. It was about slavery more than anything else. But not knowing exactly how isn't proving much either. Checkmate Lincolnites did a good job of deconstructing most of the Lost Cause myth. Yes I think the South were the wrong side. Doesn't mean it's still not apart of me.
Im from ireland and that flag is banned at hurling matches. Some County cork fans used to bring it, because county cork is called the rebel county, and also because its in the south of ireland.
@@trition1234 it wasn’t about the lost cause it was about slavery, the proof is there in the secession documents. Here is one example from Mississippi ‘Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery’. Maybe that was a one off, no wait here’s Georgia: ‘For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.’ May be that was just a fluke, but there’s more such as South Carolina: ‘increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the Institution of Slavery’ It is a fact that the civil war was about slavery
@@trition1234 I thought you were criticising yankees and therefore endorsing southern (i.e. lost cause) history. If that’s not the case please accept my apologies
@somethingelse516 nope im saying it because ANY civil war videos(JJs video also) they come dancing out of the woods like strange folk and the folk that had no connection to the the war (mid west and far west people) are even stranger and yes yes i have heard your speech before i was once a union boy lmao
As someone from the south i take great pride in being from the south, and ive always been around Dixie flags, i dont see it as a racist flag, even though some racist use it. I would say its just a flag representing Southern pride.
Exactly! JUST before Obama banned the sell of it, some black college kid in South Carolina had it in his dorm! The college had a fit when they found out! But he had done a paper on the Civil War and found the truth about the flag (not the stigma attached to it) and liked it and wasn't afraid to display it! THAT'S a story we don't see anymore!
Amen!! We only knew it as the “Rebel Flag” and only meant Southern Pride! Even my black friends had Rebel Flag stickers on their folders or lockers! Our Junior High School mascot was “The Rebels”!! It meant NOTHING about “racism” up until around 2010ish when they seen we were all getting along too good and had even elected a “Black” President! They just couldn’t have THAT! So they started stirring up the divisiveness!! They knew if we were divided by race, we would start looking at the division between CLASS too much and worried we would throw THEIR asses out!
@@GrumpyGenXGramps Stop lying sir. You guys are more coward than your ancestors, as least they were brave enough to say that they formed the confederacy to protect the institution of slavery.
Of course you dont see it as a racist flag but racist and people who experience racism do. But I am sure at least you acknowledge that the confederacy was formed to Protect the institution of slavery right? Like they said.
@ I read the history of this event as well. I especially enjoyed how the Great general sherman marched throughout Georgia nearly unopposed, proving that the traitors had no army to protect its citizens. I remember Gen. Sherman’s quote about the confederate army: invincible in peacetime, invisible in a war. 🤣. The most important confederate flag was in fact the last one. It’s tye only thing that saved your grandfather and his friends from the incipient gen-o-cide.
Wonderful, a video of the Confederate Battle Flag discussing the simple facts and possible sources surrounding it. It's fascinating to me that this flag didn't become such a source of controversy until in just the last 24-30 years...130 years following the end of the Civil War. I'm from Illinois, with three ancestors who wore Union blue, and always saw this flag as a symbol of Southern pride, and nothing more. Regardless of the politics or social issues that led to the Civil War, those who fought under that banner did so bravely and honorably, and deserve to have their memories maintained, including said banner.
Hey! I'm also from Illinois, I grew up with that flag, and I love it. I had family from the south and the north. It's so sad these people had to kill each other. Brother against brother, father against son. This was a fight for unity and protection of homes and family. No matter the side you were fighting, I respect both sides.
Alabamaian here, my and my wife's forefathers fought ( and died) protecting their homes and families under that flag. There never was racism, only fighting for their country.
@@shatterquartz awful comparison. Also educate yourself. There was no statue to Herr Fuher erected as he had an extremely humble mindset and despised ostentatious displays.
@@avvc21 To nobody's surprise, the Confederate apologist is also a Nazi apologist. And a particularly stupid one at that--Hitler despised ostentatious displays???
I grew up in Southern Virginia in the 70’s and 80’s and the Confederate flag was everywhere growing up. It was flown more than the United States flag in that area during those times. I knew some Black people who would where a hat or jacket with the Stars and Bars on it
As a British kid in the late 70's early 80's I had a belt buckle with the Confederate battle flag on it (I loved The Dukes of Hazzard) No body blinked an eye. Try wearing that today 🤦🏻
Maybe because some Brits caring/knowing about the US civil war is few? You wear that today and you get your ass beat for good reason. Dukes of Hazzard is good though I'll toast to that.
I visited the holocaust museum in Michigan on a school trip about 3 years ago and a kid from another school had one on. I thought it was distasteful but to each their own am i right.
As a kid growing up in the south, I loved DOH, it devastated me to see the controversy the flag was causing. That got the show removed from cable tv!!!!
Lynyrd Skynyrd used it as a backdrop for many of their live gigs! Always made sure to explain its usage as Southern Pride rather than anything offensive. Great video
Skynyrd would then not know how to answer the question, “Southern Pride of WHAT?” I mean, I would be proud of having the best bbq, the best climate, etc, but my symbol of that pride would not be a battle standard used by some rebels to help themselves to shoot fellow Americans, namely US soldiers. I mean, I would use that battle standard as a symbol of pride if I was particularly proud of my ancestors shooting US soldiers, I guess. Otherwise, I would not be using that flag as a symbol of what I am proud of. The best 🍗 bbq!
The soldier's flag, or battle flag, became a staple and popular flag for many and most veteran reunions after the war. With a society beaten down the South culturally turned to the symbol as a symbol of honor, respect, family, pride, etc. associated with the veterans. This was marketed with every product imaginable from Coke, racing, food, oil and gas products, Disney, Hollywood movies, etc. you name it. With the 50th and 100th anniversary of the war coming preservation of civil war sites had become a tourist attraction and money maker for states and a source of pride for the region. The popularity of the flag and the stories exploded understandably. Most if any in the KKK chapters or groups never used the flag early on at least not until the mid to late 50s. They used the U.S. flag primarily in parade, marches, meetings, pictures, etc.. However, with the rise in popularity of the Battle Flag they garnered its usage more and more as it was gaining in popularity with the people, and they wanted the same attention that it brought for them as it did everything else it was doing in the South and the country. Most opposed it's use in such a way, but their voices were either ignored or drowned out, or folks believed it was isolated incidences. Unfortunately, because of its use by such people and groups and it's constant negative portrayal in media and entertainment it became not just a symbol of resistance against government intervention, independence, medaling, and cultural regional patriotic pride, but one of hatred in the eyes of pop culture eventually. Today it's still honored for honorable intentions throughout the South with many especially historical groups and individually, although it's fallen out of popularity with most but not all of those in charge politically, media, education, etc. etc. Most you still see do not fly or display it out of hatred and I've been around it all of my life. But some do and that is unfortunate.
The only thing that flag stands for is an old way of thinking that should be left in the past, there's no pride in it, and you're just straight up lying about it being used by the KKK, there are 0 honorable intentions... it's gross and only damages the nation. It's literally displayed OUT OF HATED.
@Yea.IGetHectic no, my display of the flag my ancestors carried into battle doesn't "damage the nation". I served in two branches of the US military, I've sacrificed for this nation, so I get to display anything I want, I've earned it. It's always those who've never lifted a finger for their country who think they can run around ordering others what to do, like a king or something.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 No ones ordering you around what to do except for the people you put into power manipulating you into going into war for a shit purpose. That flag stands for some horrible parts of the history of this nation and you're just brainwashed into believing it stood for anything more than that. By all means fly it, and look like a jackass to the rest of the nation lmao.
It’s the same flag but has the state seal in between the stars. It’s strange that there are no calls to change it. I guess the people that care are uneducated
Really? I didn’t know that. Then again, I am a flag enthusiast and would easily see the difference (to be completely honest, I would think that people would mistake the Danish or Faroe Islands flag with Norway’s more often than the battle flag of Northern Virginia).
I grew up always knowing the flag. For me it was and always will be a symbol of the south plain and simple! My non-white, and non-slave owning Cherokee ancestors also fought under that battle flag and I for one I’ll always defend it! Let us not forget hate groups like the KKK used the American Flag BEFORE the Confederate and how the genocide of millions of American Indians happed not by the Confederacy under any of their flags but underneath the American flag! Should it be changed?
@@robertward8035yes there was millions of them here at one time from the east coast to the west from our most northern border to our southern border. Each state has multiple tribes listed as living there before it was a state. Your only saving grace is they didn't keep population records 🤣😂
As of 2003 this flag is still used by troops in the military in combats arms to show pride and heritage. Plenty of pictures with southern boys of all colors flying her true and proud.
@@ronwatson4135they literally were not Americans. They seceded from America for the right to own slaves. 360,000 Americans died in the civil war, and 260,000 traitors
I never imagined to see a clip from ‘ironclads’ on this channel! It’s an underrated gem, and probably the most accurate representation of the Monitor and Merrimack put on TV. Great video once again!
The "merrimack" was a yankee ship, NOT a Confederate ship! When the hull was raised from the water after the yankees BURNED it to the water line. Virginia raised the burn hulk and built the top super structure and naming it the Virginia! It ceased being the merrimack when the yanks burned it.
@@Cooter4 Everyone still called her _Merrimack_ , even in an original pen & ink sketch by by Naval Constructor John Luke Porter (1831-1893) who had helped convert her into an ironclad, it was written as _Merrimack_ . there is even a bridge tunnel named after the two ships (Monitor Merrimack Bridge Tunnel). The _Merrimack_ was renamed the _Virginia_ only after many months of work on the ship. Having called the ship the _Merrimack_ for so long even after it was in Confederate hands, the shipyard workers and crew continued using that name even after the ship's name was officially changed. I suspect that the alliteration of the two names being Monitor and Merrimack both starting with M probably also contributed to people referring to the battle that way.
Thank you for the excellent history of the Confederate Flag, and for the comments of others, such as the one about friendly fire at the Battle of First Manassas (Union: First Battle of Bull Run) . Thank you for increasing my knowledge. Your video clips were consistent with your narrative, professional quality. I have subscribed.
You're using the "Battle Flag of the Tennessee" as the "Battle Flag of the Northern Virginia Army". The NVA flag was square , and had a bronze , silver or gold border on three of the edges depending on which part of the NVA was flying it. The rectangular flag without a border is the Tennessee flag.
The history behind the flag not many people know is this flag was tennesses first army flag. It wasnt even associated with confederacy until later down the road. If you notice tennessees flag is still quite similar to the rebel flag only diffrence is it has 3 stars now and is still blue white and red.
Yes, yes, yes! Also, when you say “Mauser rifle” are you referring to any and all (military) rifles made by Mauser or do you mean a specific type of Mauser rifle?
I wish we got as much movies about literally any other war. I don’t think I’ve ever even heard of a movie about the Korean War (I’m assuming both koreas have a lot though). Ww2 is insanely overexposed. It’s like 99% of all war related media is ww2 or ww2 adjacent (ie, like that movie about quisling’s trial)
What is the difference between thirteen colonies declaring their independence fro the British Empire in 1776 and eleven states declaring their independence from the United States in 1860?
The colonies became what they separated from, so the south attempted to separate. Now history is written and propagated by the said Empire. The South shall Rise Again, along with the rest of America.
As an Englishman , it’s interesting to hear that many of the ancestors of my Scottish brethren, fought for independence from the US Union. As many will be aware, that desire for full independence from a devolved UK Union, still plays out in many a Scottish heart today.
Considering all but one of the secessionist states were very explicit about it being about banning slavery and being appalled by the idea of all men being created equal, even blacks, in the documents by which they seceded from the union and the founding documents of the confederacy it really wasn't about independence or anything like it. It was purely about slavery and maintaining white supremacy in the south. It being about some vague southern way of life under threat is entirely a post civil war story the south has told and convinced itself of. Much the same way Japan has convinced itself that it wasn't a mass murdering military state that killed over 30 million people partially out of pure sadism and belief in their racial supremacy over the millions they killed. No, instead they tell themselves they were dragged into the war unwillingly (unequivocally the aggressors) and are actually the victims because of the atomic bombings. Even thou they, combined, killed about 1/5 of what just Unit 751 killed.
I'm Australian, my state of Victoria (colony of Victoria at the time) had 20 odd sailers/stowaways fighting with the Confederacy on the CSS Shenandoah, a raiding ship. The Senandoah docked in Melbourne as it was raiding US whaling ships in the Pacific, and needed a neutral port to re stock. Some of my ancestors jumped aboard illegally and sailed with the Confederates until surrender. A tiny, yet fascinating involvement in the war
Born and Raised in Mississippi. Attended 12 years public school never attended school with a with a kid of another race. But me personally when I see it I think of “Pride not Prejudice, Heritage not Hate.”
@@JH-lo9ut There were about 105,000 Dodge Chargers made in 1969. About 300 were destroyed over the entire course of the series. That is literally only 0.285714286% of all the Chargers made in that entire year. Praise the show for bringing attention and fame to such an amazing car.
Doesn't matter what style flag the south had. One of my ancestors fought under that flag with the 25 Virginia infantry and I'm from Massachusetts. So stop the hate. It's are history.
@1:13 shout out to the 2nd South Carolina String Band who, not only is the band in the movie, used to perform Confederate song at events. They've got videos here on TH-cam.
I still got my beautiful Confederate battle flag. I got two of them. One is normal size flag an than i got a small the version of the flag. Gotta represent the Dixieland properly. I liked the Video and I like how you Incorporated telling Southern history in a way good video. Saying hey from North Carolina.
@@shatterquartz that's your opinion not mine. The flag means different things to different people. Just like the swastika means different things to different people. Your just childish because not everyone thinks like you do... You can feel however you want to and I respect that and I'm going to feel however I want to. This flag does not represent slavery to me it doesn't even represent hate to me. I'm actually happy we don't have slavery you're just an idiot because you don't understand if the South wouldn't have succeeded we would probably had slavery for a lot longer. Yeah y'all dont talk about that though. Even when u call us traitors easy yall don't even mention the fact the northern states talked about succeeding before we even did. Don't be mad cuz my people had the balls to stand up to the government. Unlike you people who hate slavery so much but yet your ancestors didn't have the balls to stand up to the government to tell them enough was enough. So do me a favor you can kiss my ass and you can kiss my grits homie I show my Southern pride differently than you that's obvious. I don't care about what people think. Are people have been flying this flag for more than a hundred years and I'm going to continue to do so I don't care how unpopular it gets. I'm a true Rebel.
@@scottbivins4758 "I'm going to feel however I want to." Yeah at the end of the day it's all about your feelings isn't it. But history has long passed judgment on the Confederacy and those who defend it. And as the saying goes, facts don't care about your feelings.
@@shatterquartzThat's fine if you feel that way but you might also consider the fact that for well over 50 years, people in the south have flown that flag for reasons that don't align with the reasons it was originally flown. I'm not defending the Confederacy, but I think you should actually consider why people who fly that flag do so. Usually it boils down to they just want to give the finger to a government and outside groups of people that they feel abandoned them
I’m from the south and was never taught the flag was a representation of slavery. It was called the rebel flag and it stood for anti big government. But nowadays everyone has been taught the the war was only about slavery, but if you read the original 13 amendment from 1861 that Lincoln signed it will open your eyes to the real situation and give you many questions.
Fun Fact: The Confederate flag has always been popular in Canada's Maritme provinces due to the St. Andrew's Cross and the large Scottish ancestery in the region. Particularly Nova Scotia,
Most people would say that the American Civil War ended 160 years ago, but one trip through a comment section on a video about the war would reveal that to be incorrect.
@@Doc_ParadoxMmm no, 90% of it is people hating on Southerners. Blind hatred towards Southerners at that, even when it’s a conversation about modern day Southerners, y’all just bash them because you’re ignorant.
@themisfitbrigade no. I'm from Georgia, and southerners need to get over it. Your cause was to continue chattel slavery, and weather you argue against it or not, the flag was later used by racists in the fight against civil rights. You don't see the Hindu swastika in use anymore for a very good reason, you can't be pissed off at people for assuming your beliefs when you fly a symbol that was used for hate.
@@themisfitbrigade it wasn’t about the lost cause it was about slavery, the proof is there in the secession documents. Here is one example from Mississippi ‘Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery’. Maybe that was a one off, no wait here’s Georgia: ‘For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.’ May be that was just a fluke, but there’s more such as South Carolina: ‘increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the Institution of Slavery’ It is a fact that the civil war was about slavery
As Walter Williams pointed out, the 13 stars represented the original 13 colonies rebelling against the government tyranny of England. The South felt like the North was doing the same thing by ignoring the runaway slave act and knowing the North had the votes in Congress and the President to legally abolish slavery.
The flag you call the Star stained Banner is also known as the 3rd National Flag. It was adopted in 1865 near the end of the war. It was interesting that the Confederate Congress concerned themselves with this issue as opposed to more pressing matters due to the Confederacy losing the war !!
Well done. I used to give pretty much this same flag talk to the visiting public at the Civil War reenactments our reenacting club, The National Civil War Assn. (NCWA) used to give. We were one of the larger reenactment groups in California at that time with about 1,500 members including both military and civilian impressions. Our largest annual ever was held each Oct .near Fresno, Calif. That event would host about 5,000 reenactors from around the country and recv. about 10,000 public attendees for the 3 day event, including 2000 kids for a school day the Friday before the reenactment. The NCWA, along with other clubs took part in the filming of the movies Gettysburg, God's and Generals, (scenes shown here) Glory, Dances with Wolves and numerous History Channel programs. T. Boyte Capt. Norfolk Light Artillery CSA, NCWA
I painted a rebel flag over my whole gas tank on my harley chopper got many compliments from all walks of lives no problems still on her today proud to be a rebel not a racist!😊😊😊
I live in Ireland, and a few weeks ago, a hummer drove though my town (in Wexford) with two confederate flag hanging out the back. In 38 years, I've never seen a confederate flag before in Ireland.
The first slave in America was owned by a black man who had to go through the courts to prove ownership. Out of the entire south not very many people had slaves. A small percentage had slaves and many blacks owned slaves. Many blacks fought for the south. Like most southern soldiers they were not fighting for slavery, they were fighting against their states being invaded by the north. The flags are part of history. God bless Dixie, God bless America.
I've done some ACW reenactment, but we used a Hardee pattern flag ( blue ground with a round white centre). These were Western theatre flags, though. They arrnt commonly recognised as Confederacy flags.
The western theatre had some great flags, Hardee had a whole Brigade kitted out with that flag right? I'm a wargamer, my biggest collection is ACW stuff, I regret modelling my army on Northern Virginia as the flags there were not as varied as out west.
No lie here......Back in the 80s, when i was in high school, there was a black boy who wore a rebel flag belt buckle. When he was asked about it, he'd just smile and show it off. Told us his daddy had a rebel flag in their house!!! That s*** blew my mind
@@cyberleaderandy1 Cromwell did a terrible job, though. It was plain that no one involved in making it had any idea how armies of the period actually fought. To be fair it's tough to depict pike and shot warfare without tens of thousands of extras and the costumes and props for that many people probably weren't in the budget.
Growing up in the Deep South we had this flag everywhere! We NEVER knew it as anything other than the “Rebel Flag” and only represented Southern Pride and nothing to do with “racism” and in fact even my BLACK friends had Rebel Flag sticker, hats and t shirts! It wasn’t until around 2010-2012 that it became such a divisive issue and started being called the Confederate flag more than I ever heard it referred to as such!
Great job, Mr. Johnson on presenting our Southern Flag to the masses; you did so Sir with accuracy. So many ignorant liberals believe the present day media and their endless animosity and hostility towards the Flag. This is deplorable and very inaccurate. I am incredibly proud of my Confederate history and ancestry, as are many other Southern men. Being from South Carolina, one of the original seven Cotton States, I have my ancestor's Confederate records and I have studied them extensively. Keep up the good work!
The early comment section on these kind of videos tends to be mature and polite, until someone lets their emotions get the better of them and post a cringe comment. Then the war starts.
For anyone that is older, growing up in 90s and early 00' it seemed that the stars and bars was a generic stand in for "country" and "rebel/ counter culture" It wasn't till mid to late 00's that there seemed to be a deliberate push that if you had it, it was an automatic visit from the SPLC lol. I under stand the history and some people's concerns, just curious if anyone else had that feeling about it back then?
The white South retconning the history of the war, including the flag, started in Reconstruction and never stopped. Ever notice that black people in the South never festooned themselves with that flag?
@@vacri54 ,,,Wrong. There are a Bunch of them that have the flag on T-Shirts and License plates and Fly it too. You just haven't been down south much. A lot of Black men fought for the South Dumbass. Bet you didn't know that did you??
Thanks for an interesting piece, and especially for pointing out that the 3×5 "Confederate Flag" was actually a Naval "ensign" not used by the Rebel armies. I also appreciate you crediting the carious sources you borrowed your clips from.
haha ya... I debated how much I actually wanted to make this video because of the comment section... but I have been keen to learn more about the Civil War.
The flag that I've seen get mistaken often for the Confederate Flag is that of Novorussaya. I think that's an oblast or province of the Russian Federation, but the flag looks the same as the Confederate Battle Flag minus the stars.
(Just trying to add a few informations) Not an official oblast or province, it's(one of) the flag of the separatist from Luhansk and Donetsk. Novarossia isn't an official region (yet) it refers today to (some of?) the Ukrainian regions the Kremlin want to annex. (It was the name of some part of southern Ukraine way back at the end of the 19th, but I don't think the flag was used back then) The Novarossia flag actually derived from the Russian naval jack, for those wondering I probably butchered the names of the provinces but I'm kinda lost in the old/new and french/English translation of it.
It’s also known as the Virginian Army Flag and Confederate Naval Jack. It never actually represented the CSA as a government. It was strictly a military unit flag. Therefore, it being called the confederate flag is a misnomer and one I try to push back on. Edit: Great coverage overakl
So it was a flag employed by the department of the Confederate Navy and an entire army under the Confederate command.. Gosh. Sounds pretty attached to the government to me. Seeing as they both take orders from and act on behest of the government. So that makes this flag a "Confederate flag" Also the confederates were losers and John Brown is an American hero.
@@heroinboblivesagain5478 The confederacy was also the Dem party back then as well but we don't see them as such now do we? The Dixie flag is used as a symbol of the south and it's culture. I even sleep on a Dixie flag bed sheet. I like to pretend I'm a rolling pin, kneeding the dough for a giant southern muffin. You can have the muffin, I'm just here for the thrill.
misnomer? its still a flag belonging to a military unit belonging to the confederate states of america. it is quite literally a confederate flag and it stands for what the confederacy wanted
The main usage for the Confederate Battle Flag for much of its history was for memorialization purposes. The United Confederate Veterans, Sons of Confederate Veterans, and Daughters of the Confederacy would use the flag during veteran reunions, monument dedications, funerals for veterans, Decoration Day/Memorial Day, and so on. Outside of this usage, it was used during war to represent national guard and various military regiments that had a history with the Confederacy (a number of national guard units from Virginia that fought in WWII were tied to the Stonewall Brigade, for example) and by southerners who strongly identified with the flag of their ancestors. The notion of it having a racial connotation is more of a modern projection by modern people who only see it as a symbol of “hate” (often conveniently ignoring the US flag’s usage by various racial organization).
And the "memorialization purposes", in turn, were a show of intimidation against nonwhites who stepped out of line. No amount of revisionism can conceal the fact that this flag was dug up from the trash heap of history by defenders of white supremacy. Same reasons all those statues of Confederate generals were put up in the 1950s: the idea was to show that white supremacy was there to stay.
Also; least but not last, it’s historical. History isn’t forged to be altered. Those that alter history have less than honorable intentions… Peace be with you all.
That might be true for individuals, though they can't complain if they get called white supremacists for waving a white supremacist flag. Public institutions are another matter.
@shatterquartz Why can't they complain? Are people who are genuinely _not_ supremacists of any kind, incapable of taking any symbol they wish and giving it their own meaning? Symbols like, oh idk say....a black fist
Each regiment in militaries even to this day often have their own flag they will have often up with their country flag. It's an old tradition from way back to the times when city states fought in larger wars siding with other city states against a common enemy.
Try as hard as you can. You will never be able to erase history. You can lie, deceive, do what you can but you can’t make it go away. It is what it is.
I can tell you while on the way to New Orleans from Florida. As we driving through Pensacola we saw this Giant Confederate flag while driving on the highway.
@@werewolflover8636Well, the giant battle flag is not intended to frighten white people, and as you said, “If the flag frightens you, then get out of the South,” … that is exactly why so many people fled from the South and settled in more accepting areas, including Canada.
@@mrsnakesmrnot8499 i try to see that flag from both sides. Yes it’s a symbol of the southern states and i am proud of it. But I also know why so many people like African Americans can get upset or offended because their ancestors died under that flag.
@@Snp2024 There were eccentric bits in Gettysburg that just weren't duplicable. i. e. the bit where Martin Sheen rides past the reenactors and they all surge forward cheering him, that was without direction The reenactors had been told to react to the credited cast in costume as if they were the characters they depicted. Martin Sheen's performance there isn't acting - he genuinely WAS impressed by the dedication the movie's extras had to their roles.
This is wrong. Georgia flew the battle flag variant from 1956-2001. “Roy’s Rag” flew from 2001-2003, when the Georgia Legislature adopted a new State flag that more closely resembled the First National. This refers to then GA Governor Roy Barnes’ campaign lie that he wouldn’t change the flag. He was broadly defeated in the next election. Since that time, many of the black legislators’ promises to not go after other Confederate historic symbols has also been found to be a lie.
Notice how he talks about the 'St Andres Cross' at 4:00. Most of the black people who are so upset with the Confederate flag know nothing about that. Variations of the St Andrew's cross is in almost every flag in Europe.
Exactly!! Most Confederate flags are St. Andrew's flags. Scotland 🏴 is a St. Andrew's flag and the Northern Virginia battle flag was purposely made to look like the flag of Scotland. Many fathers of the Confederacy had ancestry going back to Scotland!
@@A_Dornan_1776 I should note, 40% of Canada's military deaths in WWII were in the RCAF (17,397 KIA), of 44,000 total deaths during the war. At least 5 types of training aircraft were built in Canada (Avro Ansons, Fairchild Cornells, Fleet/Finch Forts, North American Harvards (Texans), and Tiger Moths. Combat aircraft built in Canada include Bolingbrokes, Cansos {Catalinas}, Supermarine Stranraers, Norsemans, Blenheims, Hamptons, Lancasters, Hurricanes, and Mosquitoes. Admittedly, the spitfire was not constructed in significant numbers in Canada, but our boys flew em and gave the Luftwaffe hell while using them. Not to mention the greater impact that Hawker Hurricanes had during the battle of Britain and the Battle of the Atlantic (via the Merchant Marine)). As a side tangent, the last WWII Canadian Victoria Cross recipient (equivalent to American's Medal of Honor) was 27yo Lt. Robert (Hammy) Hampton Gray flying a Royal Navy Corsair August 9, 1945, about a week before ceasefire was ordered, this was also the same day that an atomic weapon was dropped on Nagasaki. It's worth reading Hampon Gray's citation as it is any other Victoria Cross (VC) or Medal of Honor (MOH) citation. If you think yourself a proud man, consider whether you too would throw your body on a grenade for your buddies. The 14th of August, 1945, is considered the end of the Pacific War, and thus the end of the Second World War - though technically the instrument of surrender was signed on August 15, "VJ" day is on August 15th which is considered the end of the 2nd World War Lest we forget I shouldn't have written so much....whoops. Sorry bud.
The Flag when it is square in shape is the Batleflag of the Army of Northern Virginia....When the flag takes a different configuration it changed the angles of the stripes, making it an entirely different fkag
It is held in high esteem by millions. That know its true history and vetted on the field of battle by our Confederate Veterans...
True. The flag popularly known as the rebel flag wasn’t the actual confederate flag. It was only a battle flag used in battle primarily by the army of northern Virginia.
It is Also A Democratic Flag
@@TonyKastigar-uh6du no you fool its a battle flag by your reasoning every us combat vet would be a democrat its nonsence
@@nole8923 My Map shows from “Top” of Virginia to “Bottom” of Texas Was Part Of The South. “DEMOCRAT”.
So Who Carried The Rebal Flag? Abraham Lincoln Southern Republicans? Lmfao
The North Republican Union Flag Was The American Flag With 32 Stars! I Guess Southern Democrats Didn’t Carry a Flag Evidently?
Please Show Me The Southern Democrats Flag carried in the civil War Please, I Guess I’ve Never Seen One Before!
@@TonyKastigar-uh6duThe flag of the Confederate States consisted of seven white stars circled on a blue canton (square) with a field of three alternating stripes, two red and one white. The stars represent the seven seceded states of the U.S. Deep South. Is your Google machine broke? Do a little research, save yourself from embarrassment. I'm just saying...
@ That was just 1 of 4 flags the confederates had, Said Google! Lol I’m just Starting to learn about the civil war very confusing especially The Rebal Battle Flag and who actually Carried it. I always thought it was the Southern flag Your saying it isn’t? Google shows the Rebal Flag as 1 of 4 confederate flags. I don’t know. So Much disinformation I guess.
Also the friendly fire incidents during the first battle of Bull Run also was a reason to get a new flag.
There were also opposing troops wearing the same color uniforms in that battle which caused even more confusion.
@@richardstephens5570 "We can all wear different uniforms! That will help!"
50 Shades of Feldgrau @@MM22966
Same at Wilson's Creek in Missouri during August 1861. Uniforms and flag not really standardized then and a Confederate unit wearing blue uniforms were mistaken for friendly forces.
@@jamesbednar8625How's about The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly with the dust covered blue Union uniforms? LOL!
Eugene B. Sledge wrote in his WW2 memoirs of the battle of Okinawa, and im paraphrasing; When Shuri Castle was taken by US forces General Simon B. Buckner jr. asked for a flag to raise above the castle but none could be found. He removed his father, Confederate General Simon B. Buckner's battle flag from his pack and raised it above the castle. All the southerners on the line gave a loud rebel yell and it scared the hell out of the Japanese.
The true Rebel Yell, that was probably still.known by at least a few at the time, was blood curdling
So sad...
@@cynicallydepressed1 not really, maybe you are just clinically depressed.
Outstanding!
@@cynicallydepressed1what’s sad about it
I’m a huge Civil War buff and this was a great video. Thanks Johnny!!!
and you didnt point out the truth of the flag, not very buff
the last confederate flag was white. and sherman's curse has made sure it will stay that way. dont forget WHY you are eating those black eyed peas while you honor an army of lazy traitors
It's funny how they got rid of the old Georgian flag for having the confederate cross, just to replace it with the actual CSA flag with the state seal slapped on it.
Nova-russian flag the Ukrainian rebels use is literally the confederate flag without the stars. It's been used by the Russian navy for a very long time as well.
To be honest I think they two are not related in any form
@@whatsmolly5741 those have unrelated origins. But there is a face tattooed American political schizo who runs are barbershop in Moscow, have both flags in his shop. He's a fan of the Robert E Lee, and Stalin. He probably got the Georgias confused. He has Iron Cross and neo-Nazi tattoos. But gives WW2 Soviet veterns and Russian Communist Party member free haircuts. He's also big Z supporter, he litterally tattooed a Z on his face.
There’s actually a motion to change it finally which im all for
Rumor has it that the new flag will have the symbol of a phoenix to represent the rebirth after the destruction of Atlanta. Sounds bad ass lol
It's hilarious indeed. The "rebel" flag is the only Confederate flag that's controversial. Although understandable considering it's use during desegregation.
The "rebel" Confederate Georgia flag is actually on me as that's where I'm from and grew up with a strong Lost Cause myth narrative. It's an interesting issue but people tend to only repeat the same things. It's either an ignorant redneck yelling about their heritage in-between Trump rants. Or people arrogantly saying it was about slavery without any specific context of the issue. It was about slavery more than anything else. But not knowing exactly how isn't proving much either. Checkmate Lincolnites did a good job of deconstructing most of the Lost Cause myth.
Yes I think the South were the wrong side. Doesn't mean it's still not apart of me.
Im from ireland and that flag is banned at hurling matches. Some County cork fans used to bring it, because county cork is called the rebel county, and also because its in the south of ireland.
wait really? i guess Ireland has fallen is it northern (uk) or southern Ireland?
@trition1234 it's in the rebublic, the very south of it.
@@johnm3907 that's quite sad honestly damn..
This show is the reason we have so few original Chargers
@@1armijo I think you replied to the wrong comment bud
I look forward to the pun at the end. This was a particularly good one: "When you try your best, but you don't secede."
See what did you there Johnny.
And we were not disappointed! Ooof!
But they absolutely DID secede....for four whole years.
IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SECEDE... LOL!
@jimlaker6552 Great spelling is English, your first language?
Artistically one has to admit it's attention grabbing. Also, it's good to know bureaucracy was just as bad in the 1860s at it is now.
Wow. A video about the civil war and the comments are civil? Only Johnny could instill such peace among his viewers
not really. The yankees are already coming at of their houses lol
@@trition1234 it wasn’t about the lost cause it was about slavery, the proof is there in the secession documents. Here is one example from Mississippi ‘Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery’.
Maybe that was a one off, no wait here’s Georgia: ‘For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.’
May be that was just a fluke, but there’s more such as South Carolina: ‘increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the Institution of Slavery’
It is a fact that the civil war was about slavery
@somethingelse516 who are you and what are you talking about? im talking to chardaskie?? i think you replied to the wrong person lmao
@@trition1234 I thought you were criticising yankees and therefore endorsing southern (i.e. lost cause) history. If that’s not the case please accept my apologies
@somethingelse516 nope im saying it because ANY civil war videos(JJs video also) they come dancing out of the woods like strange folk and the folk that had no connection to the the war (mid west and far west people) are even stranger and yes yes i have heard your speech before i was once a union boy lmao
As someone from the south i take great pride in being from the south, and ive always been around Dixie flags, i dont see it as a racist flag, even though some racist use it. I would say its just a flag representing Southern pride.
Exactly! JUST before Obama banned the sell of it, some black college kid in South Carolina had it in his dorm! The college had a fit when they found out! But he had done a paper on the Civil War and found the truth about the flag (not the stigma attached to it) and liked it and wasn't afraid to display it! THAT'S a story we don't see anymore!
Amen.
Amen!! We only knew it as the “Rebel Flag” and only meant Southern Pride! Even my black friends had Rebel Flag stickers on their folders or lockers! Our Junior High School mascot was “The Rebels”!! It meant NOTHING about “racism” up until around 2010ish when they seen we were all getting along too good and had even elected a “Black” President! They just couldn’t have THAT! So they started stirring up the divisiveness!! They knew if we were divided by race, we would start looking at the division between CLASS too much and worried we would throw THEIR asses out!
@@GrumpyGenXGramps Stop lying sir. You guys are more coward than your ancestors, as least they were brave enough to say that they formed the confederacy to protect the institution of slavery.
Of course you dont see it as a racist flag but racist and people who experience racism do. But I am sure at least you acknowledge that the confederacy was formed to Protect the institution of slavery right? Like they said.
Even in nam and desert storm I saw some pictures of soldiers holding it out and taking a platoon photo with the confederate flag in the background
I made a battle flag to wear on my Vietnam m1 helmet, you see them a lot in pictures
Even a few in the GWOT.
@@Ricky_the_GeorgianI'm not surprised
Battle flags will be battle flags
@@Ricky_the_Georgian ew gross
Wow. A historically accurate video on Confederate flags. Wonders never cease.
the last flag, which is the most important one, was WHITE. remember that.
@@CharlesEbarb-v8g not really, first one and battle flag were most important.
@ I read the history of this event as well. I especially enjoyed how the Great general sherman marched throughout Georgia nearly unopposed, proving that the traitors had no army to protect its citizens. I remember Gen. Sherman’s quote about the confederate army: invincible in peacetime, invisible in a war.
🤣. The most important confederate flag was in fact the last one. It’s tye only thing that saved your grandfather and his friends from the incipient gen-o-cide.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 …what’s really funny is how long the “rebellion” lasted. 4 short years. Yall ran out of men, fast! 🤣🤣🤣
@CharlesEbarb-v8g most wars last around that long. As for "y'all", you're referring to the majority of the US population by now.
Wonderful, a video of the Confederate Battle Flag discussing the simple facts and possible sources surrounding it. It's fascinating to me that this flag didn't become such a source of controversy until in just the last 24-30 years...130 years following the end of the Civil War. I'm from Illinois, with three ancestors who wore Union blue, and always saw this flag as a symbol of Southern pride, and nothing more. Regardless of the politics or social issues that led to the Civil War, those who fought under that banner did so bravely and honorably, and deserve to have their memories maintained, including said banner.
Hey! I'm also from Illinois, I grew up with that flag, and I love it. I had family from the south and the north. It's so sad these people had to kill each other. Brother against brother, father against son. This was a fight for unity and protection of homes and family. No matter the side you were fighting, I respect both sides.
Alabamaian here, my and my wife's forefathers fought ( and died) protecting their homes and families under that flag. There never was racism, only fighting for their country.
I wish people would stop tearing down Confederate statues or monuments and memorials. If you don't learn from history it will repeat.
It was such a shame to tear down those statues of Hitler, they should have stayed up out of respect for history. /s
@@shatterquartz awful comparison. Also educate yourself. There was no statue to Herr Fuher erected as he had an extremely humble mindset and despised ostentatious displays.
@@avvc21 To nobody's surprise, the Confederate apologist is also a Nazi apologist. And a particularly stupid one at that--Hitler despised ostentatious displays???
@@shatterquartz WOW, your ignorance is on display.
@@danerogers9058 Oh, are you another one of those Confederate apologists who think the Nazis get an unfairly bad rap too?
At 0:59 that is not General Robert E. Lee, it is his lesser known nephew General Cartman Lee.
Ah yes
Also know as the real father of adol-
Didn't he abandon his troops in 1864 because they would not respect his "authori-tay!"
Kenny gave his life for him
@@ianharrison3662 he later died in georgia due to sherman figuring out what he said about dale earheart
I grew up in Southern Virginia in the 70’s and 80’s and the Confederate flag was everywhere growing up. It was flown more than the United States flag in that area during those times. I knew some Black people who would where a hat or jacket with the Stars and Bars on it
As a British kid in the late 70's early 80's I had a belt buckle with the Confederate battle flag on it (I loved The Dukes of Hazzard) No body blinked an eye. Try wearing that today 🤦🏻
Before the 1940s, you can wear swastikas and people would just think you are a Buddhist. Symbolisms change all the time.
Maybe because some Brits caring/knowing about the US civil war is few? You wear that today and you get your ass beat for good reason. Dukes of Hazzard is good though I'll toast to that.
I visited the holocaust museum in Michigan on a school trip about 3 years ago and a kid from another school had one on. I thought it was distasteful but to each their own am i right.
Those were different times, things change.
As a kid growing up in the south, I loved DOH, it devastated me to see the controversy the flag was causing. That got the show removed from cable tv!!!!
Lynyrd Skynyrd used it as a backdrop for many of their live gigs! Always made sure to explain its usage as Southern Pride rather than anything offensive. Great video
Clinton and Gore also used it as a campaign sticker. No shit.
Skynyrd would then not know how to answer the question, “Southern Pride of WHAT?” I mean, I would be proud of having the best bbq, the best climate, etc, but my symbol of that pride would not be a battle standard used by some rebels to help themselves to shoot fellow Americans, namely US soldiers. I mean, I would use that battle standard as a symbol of pride if I was particularly proud of my ancestors shooting US soldiers, I guess. Otherwise, I would not be using that flag as a symbol of what I am proud of. The best 🍗 bbq!
Atlanta Rhythm Section had a rebel flag
Yet the clenched fist is all right?
It came from socialism then the communist adopted it in 1924 I think.
Things change. Keep up. The 72 Dolphins were 17-0. The 2024 Dolphins? Not so much.
The soldier's flag, or battle flag, became a staple and popular flag for many and most veteran reunions after the war. With a society beaten down the South culturally turned to the symbol as a symbol of honor, respect, family, pride, etc. associated with the veterans. This was marketed with every product imaginable from Coke, racing, food, oil and gas products, Disney, Hollywood movies, etc. you name it. With the 50th and 100th anniversary of the war coming preservation of civil war sites had become a tourist attraction and money maker for states and a source of pride for the region. The popularity of the flag and the stories exploded understandably. Most if any in the KKK chapters or groups never used the flag early on at least not until the mid to late 50s. They used the U.S. flag primarily in parade, marches, meetings, pictures, etc.. However, with the rise in popularity of the Battle Flag they garnered its usage more and more as it was gaining in popularity with the people, and they wanted the same attention that it brought for them as it did everything else it was doing in the South and the country. Most opposed it's use in such a way, but their voices were either ignored or drowned out, or folks believed it was isolated incidences. Unfortunately, because of its use by such people and groups and it's constant negative portrayal in media and entertainment it became not just a symbol of resistance against government intervention, independence, medaling, and cultural regional patriotic pride, but one of hatred in the eyes of pop culture eventually. Today it's still honored for honorable intentions throughout the South with many especially historical groups and individually, although it's fallen out of popularity with most but not all of those in charge politically, media, education, etc. etc. Most you still see do not fly or display it out of hatred and I've been around it all of my life. But some do and that is unfortunate.
The only thing that flag stands for is an old way of thinking that should be left in the past, there's no pride in it, and you're just straight up lying about it being used by the KKK, there are 0 honorable intentions... it's gross and only damages the nation.
It's literally displayed OUT OF HATED.
@Yea.IGetHectic no, my display of the flag my ancestors carried into battle doesn't "damage the nation". I served in two branches of the US military, I've sacrificed for this nation, so I get to display anything I want, I've earned it. It's always those who've never lifted a finger for their country who think they can run around ordering others what to do, like a king or something.
@1861olesamule very true, I display it out of pride in my ancestors' military service.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 No ones ordering you around what to do except for the people you put into power manipulating you into going into war for a shit purpose. That flag stands for some horrible parts of the history of this nation and you're just brainwashed into believing it stood for anything more than that. By all means fly it, and look like a jackass to the rest of the nation lmao.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 You display it out of stupidity.
An American flag is on one wall of room a confederate flag hanging on a different wall in my room
fun fact Georgia flag is pretty close to the stars and bars
It’s the same flag but has the state seal in between the stars. It’s strange that there are no calls to change it. I guess the people that care are uneducated
That's because it *is* the stars and bars with the state seal on it. 13 stars and all.
Didn’t they change the flag a few years ago? I think it has a magnolia flower on it now.
@ no I don’t think so
@@andygreen6928May 8 2003. The new one has state seal.
Some times also confused with the Norwegian flag
Really? I didn’t know that. Then again, I am a flag enthusiast and would easily see the difference (to be completely honest, I would think that people would mistake the Danish or Faroe Islands flag with Norway’s more often than the battle flag of Northern Virginia).
By idiots. Norway's flag isn't that hard to distinct. 1. It doesn't have stars. 2. It's not shaped like an X
They only confused when the flag isn't waving
It's because some American leftie confused the flag. It was on the news
@@SeanDahletell that to American liberals
I grew up always knowing the flag. For me it was and always will be a symbol of the south plain and simple! My non-white, and non-slave owning Cherokee ancestors also fought under that battle flag and I for one I’ll always defend it! Let us not forget hate groups like the KKK used the American Flag BEFORE the Confederate and how the genocide of millions of American Indians happed not by the Confederacy under any of their flags but underneath the American flag! Should it be changed?
The kkk also flies the U S flag and the " christian" flag , but that is never shown on the " 6 o'clock news"
Millions?? Seriously, there was never that many to start with.... What was done was wrong, but there were never "millions".😮
@@robertward8035yes there was millions of them here at one time from the east coast to the west from our most northern border to our southern border. Each state has multiple tribes listed as living there before it was a state. Your only saving grace is they didn't keep population records 🤣😂
It’s because the war is more about politics and virtue signaling now days then actual history.
Fr @@robertward8035
It gained so much popularity to go from "a battle flag" to "a flag" to "THE flag"
As of 2003 this flag is still used by troops in the military in combats arms to show pride and heritage. Plenty of pictures with southern boys of all colors flying her true and proud.
What are you, like 13 years old. That rag flag is not used by the U. S. military. LOL Pride and heritage? Go read a history book.
You can’t stop history that flag stands for something
Americans fought and died under it to. One thing the Haters want us to forget.
@@ronwatson4135 germans fought and died under the nazi flag, doesnt mean the are proud of it today
@@ronwatson4135"Haters?" How old are we?
@@ronwatson4135oh. No we all want you to remember how many died , In case you feel the need to try again.
@@ronwatson4135they literally were not Americans. They seceded from America for the right to own slaves. 360,000 Americans died in the civil war, and 260,000 traitors
Thanks for the history on the various iterations of the flag
I never imagined to see a clip from ‘ironclads’ on this channel! It’s an underrated gem, and probably the most accurate representation of the Monitor and Merrimack put on TV.
Great video once again!
The "merrimack" was a yankee ship, NOT a Confederate ship! When the hull was raised from the water after the yankees BURNED it to the water line. Virginia raised the burn hulk and built the top super structure and naming it the Virginia! It ceased being the merrimack when the yanks burned it.
@@Cooter4You do know that even the Confederates still called it the Merrimack, right?
@@Cooter4 Everyone still called her _Merrimack_ , even in an original pen & ink sketch by by Naval Constructor John Luke Porter (1831-1893) who had helped convert her into an ironclad, it was written as _Merrimack_ . there is even a bridge tunnel named after the two ships (Monitor Merrimack Bridge Tunnel).
The _Merrimack_ was renamed the _Virginia_ only after many months of work on the ship. Having called the ship the _Merrimack_ for so long even after it was in Confederate hands, the shipyard workers and crew continued using that name even after the ship's name was officially changed.
I suspect that the alliteration of the two names being Monitor and Merrimack both starting with M probably also contributed to people referring to the battle that way.
...and a young Virginia Madsen
Thank you for the excellent history of the Confederate Flag, and for the comments of others, such as the one about friendly fire at the Battle of First Manassas (Union: First Battle of Bull Run) . Thank you for increasing my knowledge. Your video clips were consistent with your narrative, professional quality. I have subscribed.
Thanks for the kind feedback and welcome to the channel!
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Thank you, sir. I hope all comments are respectful.
That Johnny boy is at it again.
Lucian Hamilton here. Franklin, Tennessee. As a Southerner, I approve of this educational film.
You're using the "Battle Flag of the Tennessee" as the "Battle Flag of the Northern Virginia Army".
The NVA flag was square , and had a bronze , silver or gold border on three of the edges depending on which part of the NVA was flying it.
The rectangular flag without a border is the Tennessee flag.
The history behind the flag not many people know is this flag was tennesses first army flag. It wasnt even associated with confederacy until later down the road. If you notice tennessees flag is still quite similar to the rebel flag only diffrence is it has 3 stars now and is still blue white and red.
I suggest videos on:
Battle Axe
Composite Bow
Howitzer
Mauser Rifle
Trapdoor Springfield
Yes, yes, yes! Also, when you say “Mauser rifle” are you referring to any and all (military) rifles made by Mauser or do you mean a specific type of Mauser rifle?
We still don't have a Lee Enfield video from him either
@@SeanDahle I would love to see that, as well as the Mauser m71.
Edit: As well as video(s) on weapons from the American Civil War.
Also Trapdoor Springfield.
A short treatise on the Sturmgewehr 45(M) and how it was the basis for Heckler & Koch would be nice too.
Wish we'd get as many movies about the Civil War as we do World War 2 movies.
I wish we got as much movies about literally any other war. I don’t think I’ve ever even heard of a movie about the Korean War (I’m assuming both koreas have a lot though). Ww2 is insanely overexposed. It’s like 99% of all war related media is ww2 or ww2 adjacent (ie, like that movie about quisling’s trial)
@goldenfiberwheat238 there's one I know of that's really good called Pork Chop Hill with Gregory Peck.
@ oh cool. What year is it from?
There’s one coming up based of Stephen Crane’s book
While I agree, they're not going to make any decent Civil War movies in today's woke agenda Hollywood.
True info without drama thanks, and greetings from the Netherlands.
What is the difference between thirteen colonies declaring their independence fro the British Empire in 1776 and eleven states declaring their independence from the United States in 1860?
The colonies became what they separated from, so the south attempted to separate. Now history is written and propagated by the said Empire. The South shall Rise Again, along with the rest of America.
Absolutely nothing
Not sure. But I guess the southern states had been part of the US by their own choice.
And yes, my English is far from perfect.
President Lincoln answered that question in his Gettysburg Address.
Guessing they are different because the 1776 declaration was backed up by later military victory and the 1860 declaration was not.
As an Englishman , it’s interesting to hear that many of the ancestors of my Scottish brethren, fought for independence from the US Union. As many will be aware, that desire for full independence from a devolved UK Union, still plays out in many a Scottish heart today.
Considering all but one of the secessionist states were very explicit about it being about banning slavery and being appalled by the idea of all men being created equal, even blacks, in the documents by which they seceded from the union and the founding documents of the confederacy it really wasn't about independence or anything like it. It was purely about slavery and maintaining white supremacy in the south.
It being about some vague southern way of life under threat is entirely a post civil war story the south has told and convinced itself of. Much the same way Japan has convinced itself that it wasn't a mass murdering military state that killed over 30 million people partially out of pure sadism and belief in their racial supremacy over the millions they killed. No, instead they tell themselves they were dragged into the war unwillingly (unequivocally the aggressors) and are actually the victims because of the atomic bombings. Even thou they, combined, killed about 1/5 of what just Unit 751 killed.
I'm Australian, my state of Victoria (colony of Victoria at the time) had 20 odd sailers/stowaways fighting with the Confederacy on the CSS Shenandoah, a raiding ship. The Senandoah docked in Melbourne as it was raiding US whaling ships in the Pacific, and needed a neutral port to re stock. Some of my ancestors jumped aboard illegally and sailed with the Confederates until surrender.
A tiny, yet fascinating involvement in the war
Well, these comments might be civil.
It’s the calm before the storm
As civil as the Civil War
Most comments are civil f9r mow
Thank you for including the historical footage of Yosemite Sam declaring”I gotta burn my boots, they teeched Yankee soil”
Born and Raised in Mississippi. Attended 12 years public school never attended school with a with a kid of another race. But me personally when I see it I think of “Pride not Prejudice, Heritage not Hate.”
Lmfao
Rip general lee from the dukes of hazard. You were always the coolest car on tv besides hal
They trashed at least one general Lee per episode.
If you love that car, you should hate that show for destroying all those cars.
@@JH-lo9ut There were about 105,000 Dodge Chargers made in 1969.
About 300 were destroyed over the entire course of the series.
That is literally only 0.285714286% of all the Chargers made in that entire year. Praise the show for bringing attention and fame to such an amazing car.
@@thomasj.8081If trashing a car is a way to respect it, then I guess the Batmobile from the 1960’s show was hated. 😄
@@thomasj.8081 Some 68s were used too
Rip general Robert E Lee and happy birthday 1-19
Doesn't matter what style flag the south had. One of my ancestors fought under that flag with the 25 Virginia infantry and I'm from Massachusetts. So stop the hate. It's are history.
this one aint getting monitised
I'm watching it in Britain, and got an advert before but not after.
@ RIP
Got an ad just now, two days later...
How long does it take youtube to demonetize?
@1:13 shout out to the 2nd South Carolina String Band who, not only is the band in the movie, used to perform Confederate song at events. They've got videos here on TH-cam.
Yes indeed! 👍
I believe I got to talk to David at a festival once. All of 'em are pretty respectful people, nice dude
Love their music!
You forgot to mention the City of Trenton, Georgia continues to use the 1956 Georgia state flag.
Many Georgians still fly it, including myself
@@Ricky_the_Georgian Likewise.
@@Ricky_the_Georgian I am in UK and I got that flag too but its boxed away and currently the Battle flag hangs on my wall.
I wonder what happened in the 1950s that got a Southern state to incorporate the Confederate flag in its state flag.
I still got my beautiful Confederate battle flag. I got two of them. One is normal size flag an than i got a small the version of the flag. Gotta represent the Dixieland properly. I liked the Video and I like how you Incorporated telling Southern history in a way good video. Saying hey from North Carolina.
If your idea of representing "Dixieland" is flying the flag of slaveowners, you're the one disrespecting the southern heritage.
@@shatterquartz that's your opinion not mine. The flag means different things to different people. Just like the swastika means different things to different people. Your just childish because not everyone thinks like you do... You can feel however you want to and I respect that and I'm going to feel however I want to. This flag does not represent slavery to me it doesn't even represent hate to me. I'm actually happy we don't have slavery you're just an idiot because you don't understand if the South wouldn't have succeeded we would probably had slavery for a lot longer. Yeah y'all dont talk about that though. Even when u call us traitors easy yall don't even mention the fact the northern states talked about succeeding before we even did. Don't be mad cuz my people had the balls to stand up to the government. Unlike you people who hate slavery so much but yet your ancestors didn't have the balls to stand up to the government to tell them enough was enough. So do me a favor you can kiss my ass and you can kiss my grits homie I show my Southern pride differently than you that's obvious. I don't care about what people think. Are people have been flying this flag for more than a hundred years and I'm going to continue to do so I don't care how unpopular it gets. I'm a true Rebel.
@@scottbivins4758 "I'm going to feel however I want to." Yeah at the end of the day it's all about your feelings isn't it. But history has long passed judgment on the Confederacy and those who defend it. And as the saying goes, facts don't care about your feelings.
@@shatterquartzThat's fine if you feel that way but you might also consider the fact that for well over 50 years, people in the south have flown that flag for reasons that don't align with the reasons it was originally flown. I'm not defending the Confederacy, but I think you should actually consider why people who fly that flag do so. Usually it boils down to they just want to give the finger to a government and outside groups of people that they feel abandoned them
@@shatterquartz you do know that the union/America had slaves for over 200 years right?
I’m from the south and was never taught the flag was a representation of slavery. It was called the rebel flag and it stood for anti big government. But nowadays everyone has been taught the the war was only about slavery, but if you read the original 13 amendment from 1861 that Lincoln signed it will open your eyes to the real situation and give you many questions.
Fun Fact:
The Confederate flag has always been popular in Canada's Maritme provinces due to the St. Andrew's Cross and the large Scottish ancestery in the region. Particularly Nova Scotia,
Sudanese rebels adopted the Confederate Battle Flag in their fight against their Islamic government
Might as well picked the swastika😂😂😂
Most people would say that the American Civil War ended 160 years ago, but one trip through a comment section on a video about the war would reveal that to be incorrect.
Sore losers exist in every topic.
@@Doc_ParadoxMmm no, 90% of it is people hating on Southerners. Blind hatred towards Southerners at that, even when it’s a conversation about modern day Southerners, y’all just bash them because you’re ignorant.
@themisfitbrigade no. I'm from Georgia, and southerners need to get over it. Your cause was to continue chattel slavery, and weather you argue against it or not, the flag was later used by racists in the fight against civil rights. You don't see the Hindu swastika in use anymore for a very good reason, you can't be pissed off at people for assuming your beliefs when you fly a symbol that was used for hate.
@@themisfitbrigade it wasn’t about the lost cause it was about slavery, the proof is there in the secession documents. Here is one example from Mississippi ‘Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery’.
Maybe that was a one off, no wait here’s Georgia: ‘For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.’
May be that was just a fluke, but there’s more such as South Carolina: ‘increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the Institution of Slavery’
It is a fact that the civil war was about slavery
As Walter Williams pointed out, the 13 stars represented the original 13 colonies rebelling against the government tyranny of England. The South felt like the North was doing the same thing by ignoring the runaway slave act and knowing the North had the votes in Congress and the President to legally abolish slavery.
The flag you call the Star stained Banner is also known as the 3rd National Flag. It was adopted in 1865 near the end of the war. It was interesting that the Confederate Congress concerned themselves with this issue as opposed to more pressing matters due to the Confederacy losing the war !!
Thanx Johnny, your 'parting shot' is so clever and apropos!
Well done. I used to give pretty much this same flag talk to the visiting public at the Civil War reenactments our reenacting club, The National Civil War Assn. (NCWA) used to give. We were one of the larger reenactment groups in California at that time with about 1,500 members including both military and civilian impressions. Our largest annual ever was held each Oct .near Fresno, Calif. That event would host about 5,000 reenactors from around the country and recv. about 10,000 public attendees for the 3 day event, including 2000 kids for a school day the Friday before the reenactment. The NCWA, along with other clubs took part in the filming of the movies Gettysburg, God's and Generals, (scenes shown here) Glory, Dances with Wolves and numerous History Channel programs.
T. Boyte
Capt. Norfolk Light Artillery CSA,
NCWA
I painted a rebel flag over my whole gas tank on my harley chopper got many compliments from all walks of lives no problems still on her today proud to be a rebel not a racist!😊😊😊
I live in Ireland, and a few weeks ago, a hummer drove though my town (in Wexford) with two confederate flag hanging out the back. In 38 years, I've never seen a confederate flag before in Ireland.
The Confederate Battle flag is cool. I have always liked Southern Rock and I am a Yankee.
Still have every ....ok 2.... CDs the Damn Yankees made in the 90s! Great music!
I love that flag. My ancestors fought under it. Have several in my home as we speak.
The first slave in America was owned by a black man who had to go through the courts to prove ownership. Out of the entire south not very many people had slaves. A small percentage had slaves and many blacks owned slaves. Many blacks fought for the south. Like most southern soldiers they were not fighting for slavery, they were fighting against their states being invaded by the north. The flags are part of history.
God bless Dixie, God bless America.
I've done some ACW reenactment, but we used a Hardee pattern flag ( blue ground with a round white centre). These were Western theatre flags, though. They arrnt commonly recognised as Confederacy flags.
The western theatre had some great flags, Hardee had a whole Brigade kitted out with that flag right? I'm a wargamer, my biggest collection is ACW stuff, I regret modelling my army on Northern Virginia as the flags there were not as varied as out west.
Hardee flag was a design more for regiments wasn't it?
Yes, surprised it wasn't mentioned. The home page of well-known artist Don Troiani features that flag.
No lie here......Back in the 80s, when i was in high school, there was a black boy who wore a rebel flag belt buckle. When he was asked about it, he'd just smile and show it off. Told us his daddy had a rebel flag in their house!!! That s*** blew my mind
Could you make a video on pike and shot? I think there are probably a few movies that depict it.
Yep, ECW has several, especially Cromwell and the likes of Moonraker and the Scarlet blade.
@@cyberleaderandy1moonraker the bond film?
@@cyberleaderandy1 Cromwell did a terrible job, though. It was plain that no one involved in making it had any idea how armies of the period actually fought. To be fair it's tough to depict pike and shot warfare without tens of thousands of extras and the costumes and props for that many people probably weren't in the budget.
Growing up in the Deep South we had this flag everywhere! We NEVER knew it as anything other than the “Rebel Flag” and only represented Southern Pride and nothing to do with “racism” and in fact even my BLACK friends had Rebel Flag sticker, hats and t shirts! It wasn’t until around 2010-2012 that it became such a divisive issue and started being called the Confederate flag more than I ever heard it referred to as such!
Great job, Mr. Johnson on presenting our Southern Flag to the masses; you did so Sir with accuracy. So many ignorant liberals believe the present day media and their endless animosity and hostility towards the Flag. This is deplorable and very inaccurate. I am incredibly proud of my Confederate history and ancestry, as are many other Southern men. Being from South Carolina, one of the original seven Cotton States, I have my ancestor's Confederate records and I have studied them extensively. Keep up the good work!
The early comment section on these kind of videos tends to be mature and polite, until someone lets their emotions get the better of them and post a cringe comment. Then the war starts.
Come back to this video in a couple of months and sort by newest, you’ll see a whole different comment section.
History can't be told in a vaccum biasses and politics are always gonna appear on history because history itself is political
Northern states had slaves as well!
For anyone that is older, growing up in 90s and early 00' it seemed that the stars and bars was a generic stand in for "country" and "rebel/ counter culture" It wasn't till mid to late 00's that there seemed to be a deliberate push that if you had it, it was an automatic visit from the SPLC lol. I under stand the history and some people's concerns, just curious if anyone else had that feeling about it back then?
The white South retconning the history of the war, including the flag, started in Reconstruction and never stopped. Ever notice that black people in the South never festooned themselves with that flag?
@@vacri54 It's not never.
Northern Prosperity Anarchy Centre
@@vacri54 I mean Jews don't wave German Swastikas so....
@@vacri54 ,,,Wrong. There are a Bunch of them that have the flag on T-Shirts and License plates and Fly it too. You just haven't been down south much. A lot of Black men fought for the South Dumbass. Bet you didn't know that did you??
Slavery was still widely practiced in Yankee country during the civil war too.
Thanks for an interesting piece, and especially for pointing out that the 3×5 "Confederate Flag" was actually a Naval "ensign" not used by the Rebel armies. I also appreciate you crediting the carious sources you borrowed your clips from.
This should be a gentle comment section, Johnny. Take care, catch ya for another one.
haha ya... I debated how much I actually wanted to make this video because of the comment section... but I have been keen to learn more about the Civil War.
Atun-Shei films will make an episode just about this comment section.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq please please have someone moderate this comment section, there are already people trying to defend the Confederacy
@@Nestor_Makhno That guy's older stuff was really good.
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 Do you defend the killing of millions of preborn babies by Americans and supported by their government?
The flag that I've seen get mistaken often for the Confederate Flag is that of Novorussaya. I think that's an oblast or province of the Russian Federation, but the flag looks the same as the Confederate Battle Flag minus the stars.
(Just trying to add a few informations)
Not an official oblast or province, it's(one of) the flag of the separatist from Luhansk and Donetsk. Novarossia isn't an official region (yet) it refers today to (some of?) the Ukrainian regions the Kremlin want to annex.
(It was the name of some part of southern Ukraine way back at the end of the 19th, but I don't think the flag was used back then)
The Novarossia flag actually derived from the Russian naval jack, for those wondering
I probably butchered the names of the provinces but I'm kinda lost in the old/new and french/English translation of it.
It’s also known as the Virginian Army Flag and Confederate Naval Jack.
It never actually represented the CSA as a government. It was strictly a military unit flag. Therefore, it being called the confederate flag is a misnomer and one I try to push back on.
Edit: Great coverage overakl
The USA has a proper civil flag that few know about. The US Coast Guard ensign resembles it.
So it was a flag employed by the department of the Confederate Navy and an entire army under the Confederate command..
Gosh. Sounds pretty attached to the government to me. Seeing as they both take orders from and act on behest of the government. So that makes this flag a "Confederate flag"
Also the confederates were losers and John Brown is an American hero.
@@heroinboblivesagain5478 The confederacy was also the Dem party back then as well but we don't see them as such now do we? The Dixie flag is used as a symbol of the south and it's culture. I even sleep on a Dixie flag bed sheet. I like to pretend I'm a rolling pin, kneeding the dough for a giant southern muffin. You can have the muffin, I'm just here for the thrill.
misnomer? its still a flag belonging to a military unit belonging to the confederate states of america. it is quite literally a confederate flag and it stands for what the confederacy wanted
@@shadowgoblin123 Oh my, In my country, we always refer it as the Democratic Party of America Flag.
I still fly this flag today. Thanks for being an honest
Very informative. 👍👍
Our history is what makes America, America 🇺🇸
I think its the best looking flag in our history!
Cheers!
Nah the the American flag is so much better
@@Rollt1de14 welcome to America 👍
@@Rollt1de14it’s not bad but it’s not as dynamic and eye catching as the rebel flag
You know things are bad when no one can agree on a flag design.
you know things are bad when racist iconography is lauded as culture and heritage to be honoured
@@shadowgoblin123 You know things are bad when all you see of a flag is one misuse by horrible people and forever taint said flag with its usage.
@ bro the flag LITERALLY EXISTED in the first place to represent the csa cause but ok
The main usage for the Confederate Battle Flag for much of its history was for memorialization purposes. The United Confederate Veterans, Sons of Confederate Veterans, and Daughters of the Confederacy would use the flag during veteran reunions, monument dedications, funerals for veterans, Decoration Day/Memorial Day, and so on.
Outside of this usage, it was used during war to represent national guard and various military regiments that had a history with the Confederacy (a number of national guard units from Virginia that fought in WWII were tied to the Stonewall Brigade, for example) and by southerners who strongly identified with the flag of their ancestors.
The notion of it having a racial connotation is more of a modern projection by modern people who only see it as a symbol of “hate” (often conveniently ignoring the US flag’s usage by various racial organization).
And the "memorialization purposes", in turn, were a show of intimidation against nonwhites who stepped out of line. No amount of revisionism can conceal the fact that this flag was dug up from the trash heap of history by defenders of white supremacy. Same reasons all those statues of Confederate generals were put up in the 1950s: the idea was to show that white supremacy was there to stay.
@@shatterquartz No amount of historical revisionism can hide the history of the democratic party.
Well said
feel free to share that with blacks who lived under that iconography. I'm sure they will disagree using differing levels of passion.
Also; least but not last, it’s historical. History isn’t forged to be altered. Those that alter history have less than honorable intentions…
Peace be with you all.
Good job Brother. Great video...
All symbols are polyvalent & thus it is the intent of the user & the context it's used in that decides what a symbol means.
Absolutely
Long live the South!
Displaying this flag infringes on nobodies rights, therefor cannot be subject to any exception or restriction.
That might be true for individuals, though they can't complain if they get called white supremacists for waving a white supremacist flag. Public institutions are another matter.
@@shatterquartz You don't get to define what a symbol means to others, that's woke fascism.
@@shatterquartz Do you call out Black supremacists when they do the Black Power salute ?
@shatterquartz Why can't they complain?
Are people who are genuinely _not_ supremacists of any kind, incapable of taking any symbol they wish and giving it their own meaning?
Symbols like, oh idk say....a black fist
@@JoeRoscoe-l0l Yes & this is any symbol.
Amazing, did not know there were so many different southern flags
A sign of confusion.
Each regiment in militaries even to this day often have their own flag they will have often up with their country flag. It's an old tradition from way back to the times when city states fought in larger wars siding with other city states against a common enemy.
Well done, as a Virginian,I appreciate you putting out this bit of history.
Try as hard as you can. You will never be able to erase history. You can lie, deceive, do what you can but you can’t make it go away. It is what it is.
What about the Rebel Yell? You should do that next.
I can tell you while on the way to New Orleans from Florida. As we driving through Pensacola we saw this Giant Confederate flag while driving on the highway.
Yeah, you’re in the south. People here are still allowed to express themselves however they wish. If it frightened you stay out of the south!
@ Frightened? Shit i was proud of that. Im proud of my southern heritage
That giant battle flag is not meant to intimidate WHITE people.
@@werewolflover8636Well, the giant battle flag is not intended to frighten white people, and as you said, “If the flag frightens you, then get out of the South,” … that is exactly why so many people fled from the South and settled in more accepting areas, including Canada.
@@mrsnakesmrnot8499 i try to see that flag from both sides. Yes it’s a symbol of the southern states and i am proud of it. But I also know why so many people like African Americans can get upset or offended because their ancestors died under that flag.
OMG, it's the ghost of Stonewall Jackson
I'm going to get me T-shirt with the Battle Flag on it, and wear that everywhere. Best nobody think they can take it off me, either.
The flag shown is the Naval Jack, the battle flag was square and had the same pattern. From the book “The Flags of the Confederacy”.
"A Southern Yankee" is a 1948 American western comedy using the confederate flag joke between the frontlines.
Worst CW film and an all round pile of shite is Gods & Generals. Awful dross.
What’s bad about it? I’ve never seen it just curious
@@Ricky_the_Georgian The pacing's not so good, Martin Sheen was better than James Cromwell as Lee, and the runtime's a bit long.
@@williaminnes6635doesn't seem that bad what u rate it out of 10 ?
@@Snp2024 5
@@Snp2024 There were eccentric bits in Gettysburg that just weren't duplicable.
i. e. the bit where Martin Sheen rides past the reenactors and they all surge forward cheering him, that was without direction
The reenactors had been told to react to the credited cast in costume as if they were the characters they depicted.
Martin Sheen's performance there isn't acting - he genuinely WAS impressed by the dedication the movie's extras had to their roles.
An unbiased take on the Battle flag? Not just another Breadtuber whining about imaginary white supremepizza?
Interesting...
Thank you. I had never seen the other flags, only the Rebel Flag aka battle flag
This is wrong. Georgia flew the battle flag variant from 1956-2001. “Roy’s Rag” flew from 2001-2003, when the Georgia Legislature adopted a new State flag that more closely resembled the First National.
This refers to then GA Governor Roy Barnes’ campaign lie that he wouldn’t change the flag. He was broadly defeated in the next election.
Since that time, many of the black legislators’ promises to not go after other Confederate historic symbols has also been found to be a lie.
Way up here, in Canada, i have the Confederate Battle Flag hanging where my bedroom door should be! Lol.
Notice how he talks about the 'St Andres Cross' at 4:00. Most of the black people who are so upset with the Confederate flag know nothing about that. Variations of the St Andrew's cross is in almost every flag in Europe.
Exactly!! Most Confederate flags are St. Andrew's flags. Scotland 🏴 is a St. Andrew's flag and the Northern Virginia battle flag was purposely made to look like the flag of Scotland. Many fathers of the Confederacy had ancestry going back to Scotland!
I must compliment you. That for a Yankee, you did a very concise and unbiased summany of the flags history.
I'm Canadian funny enough
Johnny - a third party beauty
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq With a British Spitfire as profile pic, to make it even more confusing haha
And yes yes Canadians flew Spitfires too ha-ha
@@A_Dornan_1776 I should note, 40% of Canada's military deaths in WWII were in the RCAF (17,397 KIA), of 44,000 total deaths during the war. At least 5 types of training aircraft were built in Canada (Avro Ansons, Fairchild Cornells, Fleet/Finch Forts, North American Harvards (Texans), and Tiger Moths. Combat aircraft built in Canada include Bolingbrokes, Cansos {Catalinas}, Supermarine Stranraers, Norsemans, Blenheims, Hamptons, Lancasters, Hurricanes, and Mosquitoes. Admittedly, the spitfire was not constructed in significant numbers in Canada, but our boys flew em and gave the Luftwaffe hell while using them. Not to mention the greater impact that Hawker Hurricanes had during the battle of Britain and the Battle of the Atlantic (via the Merchant Marine)).
As a side tangent, the last WWII Canadian Victoria Cross recipient (equivalent to American's Medal of Honor) was 27yo Lt. Robert (Hammy) Hampton Gray flying a Royal Navy Corsair August 9, 1945, about a week before ceasefire was ordered, this was also the same day that an atomic weapon was dropped on Nagasaki. It's worth reading Hampon Gray's citation as it is any other Victoria Cross (VC) or Medal of Honor (MOH) citation. If you think yourself a proud man, consider whether you too would throw your body on a grenade for your buddies.
The 14th of August, 1945, is considered the end of the Pacific War, and thus the end of the Second World War - though technically the instrument of surrender was signed on August 15, "VJ" day is on August 15th which is considered the end of the 2nd World War
Lest we forget
I shouldn't have written so much....whoops. Sorry bud.
The Flag when it is square in shape is the Batleflag of the Army of Northern Virginia....When the flag takes a different configuration it changed the angles of the stripes, making it an entirely different fkag
the battle flag was also present at the tearing down of the Berlin wall.