Terrible and Great RPGs from Spiders Studio

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    0:46 Faery: Legends of Avalon
    2:52 Of Orcs and Men
    11:10 Mars: War Logs
    16:30 Bound by Flame
    22:57 The Tehnomancer
    29:19 Greedfall
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    40:05 Outro & New Merch!
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  • @click4gameplay
    @click4gameplay  ปีที่แล้ว +56

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    • @matt_r.2510
      @matt_r.2510 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have yet to play Steelrising but I have played Greedfall and Bound by flame. Greedfall is my favorite. The writing and voice acting is top notch for a AA game.

    • @peterrjg6843
      @peterrjg6843 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Greedfall. Loved most of the Technomancer too, apart from having to revisit Ophir all the time (and the respawning mobs).

    • @darioildiario3001
      @darioildiario3001 ปีที่แล้ว

      "RPGs" ^_^

    • @metalklown
      @metalklown ปีที่แล้ว

      I played all of them except Steel Rising. And Greedfall is the best, but The Technomancer was really strong as well.

    • @XhumpersX
      @XhumpersX ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I played and loved greedfall. I played technomancer to chase that high, and I enjoyed it enough to beat it, but it was a big step down. I am thinking of trying bound by blood, but im not sure. Anyone else try and like it?

  • @arkeshn729
    @arkeshn729 ปีที่แล้ว +682

    I would love to see what Spiders could create with even half of an Elder Scrolls budget.

    • @claymorexx
      @claymorexx ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Please no

    • @Ordraacks
      @Ordraacks ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not an elder scroll

    • @arkeshn729
      @arkeshn729 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@claymorexx Greedfall budget 5.5 million.. Skyrim 100 million (85 million development, 15 million marketing).. now imagine Greedfall 2 with a 50 million dollar budget

    • @johndodo2062
      @johndodo2062 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      ​@@arkeshn729 you really think they only spent 15 million on marketing? I have a bridge to sell you

    • @SpecShadow
      @SpecShadow ปีที่แล้ว +27

      of course smaller & more competent team could make better game for a fraction of money Bethesda used...
      buit it would sell less because it's not popular developer/publisher

  • @solpd3183
    @solpd3183 ปีที่แล้ว +465

    I have a soft spot for Spiders. They seem to be trying their best with the budget they have, and I totally respect that. Looking forward to GreedFall 2.

    • @nousername2942
      @nousername2942 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Let's just hope they don't make you wear that weird hair strip on one half of your face lol

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Greedfall was fucking god awful, I need to see way more to be excited for a second one
      Edit: when an echo chamber uses ad populum, it’s honestly kinda funny. Look, your standards have to be extremely low to play greedfall and have enjoyed it. That shit was unbearably unfinished and boring. It’s not any better than your average monthly iOS game coming out.

    • @solpd3183
      @solpd3183 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@zzodysseuszz Really? well, to each their own. I honestly enjoyed it, but I do hope for some improvements in the sequel.

    • @pyrosiumofficial
      @pyrosiumofficial ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@zzodysseuszz Interesting take. Everyone seems to have loved it.

    • @maximumoverdrive7554
      @maximumoverdrive7554 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​​@@zzodysseuszz greedfall was fucking awesome. Better then anything a triple A studio was putting out. At the time

  • @medalgearsalad1419
    @medalgearsalad1419 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Spiders and Piranhabytes are the leading giants in Eurojank RPGs. Basically these crazy SoBs are putting out good AA games, while other AAA studios are putting out bug ridden, unfinished, and lootbox frenzy games. Keep that in mind.

  • @Biouke
    @Biouke ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Due to their relative successes with Greedfall and Steel Rising the studio recently grew from 35 to 80 people. Spider's head and founder moved from her position to a creative director's role to free herself from the paperwork and continue making games.
    I'm glad to see this studio grow, I remember playing Mars War Logs when it came out and thinking there was potential, hoping Spiders stay afloat long enough to prove what they're capable of. Also glad to see them perpetuating the French touch : Ambitious artistic games with original premises and great worldbuilding despite the lack of budget overall. Arkane seems to have lost that spark to corporate BS recently, UbiSoft dropped that ball years ago and I hope that Spiders, Amplitude, DontNod and many others will be able to preserve at least some of this "artisanal" mindset :)

    • @ulfk5667
      @ulfk5667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Arkane has the problem they are to big for the games they made. That has nothing to do with corporate BS. Dishonored and Prey were to big for the immersive sims they were and nobody wanted to play them. So they tried something new to survive with Deathloop and Redfall and that didn´t work very well. Arkanes story is a real tragedy and the antithesis of the spiders story.

    • @Biouke
      @Biouke ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ulfk5667 I get your point but to me it has MUCH to do with corp BS. Arkane and Eidos Montreal made big budget immersive sims and got relative success with Dishonored and Deus Ex, for a niche genre like this I'd even say they were great successes. They sold well and still do, both on consoles and PC. The problem is Zenimax and Square-Enix, selling enough to keep the studio afloat isn't enough for these parent companies, they want huge margins to please the share-holders. And they want unending financial growth, which is base neo-liberal stupidity. They grow a studio from 30 to 300 people, diluting the creative vision and freedom, letting key workers go to hire fresh, naive slaves. After a point the studio releases soul-less under-crafted soup and goes bankrupt. It can happen quickly or slowly (the long downfall of UbiSoft, Blizzard, etc...) but it happens. Spiders is at that crossroad where they finally get as big as their ambitions, I hope they won't become too big for the games they make too. Depends of their parent company's goal too, wait and see how Nacon/BBI manages them after buying Spiders from Focus Home Interactive.
      So far I find interesting that after struggling for many years with the combat part of A-RPGs they got the green light to make a souls-like A-RPG. They can learn from this experience (and relative success) to better their next games.

    • @ulfk5667
      @ulfk5667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Biouke Dishonored was a successful game yes. And so they tried to walk this path and what happened?
      Dishonored 2 sold much worse than the first part.
      They tried it again with Prey. Nobody bought this game.
      Than came Death of the outsider. And it bombed saleswise.
      And all these games were fully developed under the umbrella of Zenimax. So you can´t say they didn´t try it.
      Deus Ex is another cup of tea imo. There i can see your argument.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ulfk5667Prey was indeed an unfortunate casualty for one big reason: They gave it the wrong name. Remember that the Prey franchise had a rough history, and the unreleased number 2 sequel was still fresh by the old fans especially that Pray 2 open world looking trailer, and that was before we learn the awful sabotage by Zenimax. Arkane's game should had a more unique name, but of course Zenimax want to keep that IP alive somehow, even if it pissed or confused the general gaming populace.

    • @ulfk5667
      @ulfk5667 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Deliveredmean42 to be honest i don´t think that had much impact. Prey 2006 wasn´t the big Smashhit. Yeah fans of the first prey maybe didn´t buy the 2017 game. But they even didn´t do that if the name of prey 2017 would be different.
      Prey didn´t sold because it was an immersive sim. A genre popular by the critics but disliked by the mainstream.

  • @NotMeButAnother
    @NotMeButAnother ปีที่แล้ว +183

    I've only played Greedfall, but I really enjoyed it. It's painfully straining against the limits of its budget, but I enjoyed having a decently well-written companion RPG as well as the underused setting.

    • @siegfriedgottz698
      @siegfriedgottz698 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The setting sold me alone i love shot and pike warfare wish fnatsywriters would use it more

    • @dificulttocure
      @dificulttocure ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nah, the problems of Greedfall have nothing to do with low budget, it's just poorly thought out rpg mechanics. There are millions of rpgs with lower budgets that are so much better. Example: Outward.

    • @Maityist
      @Maityist ปีที่แล้ว +26

      ​@@dificulttocure to each their own but I think you play Greedfall and Outward for completely different goals.

    • @NotMeButAnother
      @NotMeButAnother ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dificulttocure Outward is great. Nonetheless, I'm pretty sure that if Greedfall could have had a continuous open world without loading screens, they probably would have done that, and the budget limitations also are obvious when looking at how they skip scenes that would require a lot of extra voice acting (e.g. the trial of the evil scientist). That said, of course not all problems of Greedfall are rooted in budget - the aggro ranges of monsters and their reset mechanic are just bad and they should've done better.

    • @siegfriedgottz698
      @siegfriedgottz698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dificulttocure all cities looking the same regarldess of faction ownership kinda blew balls

  • @jobbingtoaster1502
    @jobbingtoaster1502 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    "My name is Innocence," slayed me every time. Also, from what I've seen of their games, Spiders is getting to the point where they could pull a Nier Automata. They started making jank games, but similar to the Nier developers, Spiders slowly improved overtime. If they can keep it up, they could eventually make a game like Nier Automata that ends up being universally praised and loved. They almost made it with Greed Fall.

    • @TheWildManEnkidu
      @TheWildManEnkidu ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Steelrising was a bit of a step back for them, but proved they're learning how to make combat more engaging and fluid. Greedfall 2 could be the one to watch out for with them.

    • @jobbingtoaster1502
      @jobbingtoaster1502 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@TheWildManEnkidu Here's hoping Greed Fall 2 turns out great then.

    • @teyrngalahad5719
      @teyrngalahad5719 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hope i will be proven wrong, but i think their budget is too limited for the kinds of games they want to make.

    • @milanhvozdik3379
      @milanhvozdik3379 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@TheWildManEnkidu I think stepping out of their comfort zone, quite successfully I must add, was a great thing for them to do. More like a step to the side to find a much better path than back.

    • @salahmoharram6136
      @salahmoharram6136 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Nier Automata was made by a completely different studio than any other Nier/Drakengard game.

  • @vagrantender
    @vagrantender ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Spiders is a team I genuinely admire. Because they take risks making things that no other studio wants to do.

  • @rayz0101
    @rayz0101 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    The sheer range of settings and mechanics is pretty impressive.

  • @kainscion9085
    @kainscion9085 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    It's really great that someone finally made a video about this studio's games. Definitely, a video I'd recommend to someone to see all the improvements they've made.
    I do want to point out two mistakes.
    1. Of Orcs and Men: Arguile's rage isn't random. Put him in defense mode to decrease it. I believe there's even a bar that lets you know how far it is.
    2. Greedfall: De Sardet doesn't have the Malacor. The mark on his face is explained in the game and explains why some of the natives mistake him as one of their own.

  • @dennisdavidov782
    @dennisdavidov782 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Before the formation of Spiders there was Monte Cristo that made Silverfall which is another game worth covering.

  • @ave3360
    @ave3360 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All the gothic/risen music in the background in your videos always make me wanna go replay another 100+ playthrough xD

  • @filipstudeny
    @filipstudeny ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I played GreedFall, Technomancer and Bound By Flame. I love those games, however there were times where if they implemented jumping it would make navigation much more fun, because I spend alot of time backtracking so that I could go around a fence.
    GreedFall is by far my favourite game, I love how some of the quests are connected, if you complete one quest it affects some other quests, it's not for all quests but for some smaller ones, I mainly love the companion quests, if you end them early or completely ignore them it changes the story little bit.

    • @jamestownsassacre9211
      @jamestownsassacre9211 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I gave greedfall a chance and I really like a lot of what it does as far as customization, art style, and even the tone of the game. I cannot get past the combat though, is it going to open up more as I progress into the game? I want to enjoy the game for what it is but there are certain aspects that make it hard to keep on, even though I feel like there's something there

  • @BadManiac
    @BadManiac ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Spiders is a studio that has consistently improved over time. Technomancer and Greedfall are my favorites. Steelrising is great but too hard for an old fart with borked hand-eye coordination like me.

    • @arkeshn729
      @arkeshn729 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Steel rising is the Spiders game I skipped. Might try it for 10 bucks but I'm a little burnt out on souls like games.

    • @BadManiac
      @BadManiac ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@arkeshn729 Steelrising is good, just not for me, I bounce off most souls likes. Just don't have the manual dexterity and reaction timesto make em work. Still bought it to support spiders. One of the best AA studios IMO.

    • @stockpilethomas7900
      @stockpilethomas7900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't they have a easier mode on it?

    • @xicario129
      @xicario129 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For some reasons spiders has always kept the same combat mechanics for the last 4 games i think

    • @luxoflux5064
      @luxoflux5064 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stockpilethomas7900 it's easy by default, it has to be the most easier of all souls like that have been released so far. You might struggle with a few specific mobs in the path but every boss is slow, dumb and you either make it hard for winning or just stick close to them and you use buffs to kill them in 20 seconds max.

  • @balduran.
    @balduran. ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Of orcs and men is my favorite, replayed it quite a few times. Great soundtrack, the dynamic between the main duo and the combat itself. Came out when I was at my lowest so I am little biased though. Greedfall is probably their best game objectively speaking, though the amount of running was insane.

    • @teyrngalahad5719
      @teyrngalahad5719 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love the soundtrack of the game. Last played it when it came out, but i still listen to the OST.

  • @JumalaPlays
    @JumalaPlays ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hey, it's nice to see you covering of orcs and men! If anyone is interested in stealth games, the Styx games are more than worth your time!

  • @vegn_brit5176
    @vegn_brit5176 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I only played Greedfall. It was an enjoyable game. My main gripe with it was the constant running back and forth to complete the later quests. I enjoyed the combat though and am curious to see what they come up with in Greedfall 2.

  • @Eaglehead11
    @Eaglehead11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So happy to see someone appreciate Greedfall. I really enjoyed this game when I played it and was baffled some people hated it. Spiders reminds me alot of CI Games where you can literally see their progress and gain of experience. Starting with bad to mediocre games to games that are enjoyable and fun. Then again it took CI far longer ngl xD

  • @wolf4640
    @wolf4640 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was the most interesting video i've seen so far on TH-cam this year! Thank you for your work man.

  • @bigego503
    @bigego503 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Have played all except Of Orcs and Men (only play on console and don't think it's released there) and Steel Rising, which I may not be able to play due to age and arthritis. I can appreciate them all and take note of the fact that they seem to be constantly learning from their mistakes, a character trait I heartily approve of. Eventually, I will attempt (and most likely fail) Steel Rising and was made happy to hear of sequel to Greedfall. Good vid

    • @daddydeadly3428
      @daddydeadly3428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Surprisingly, Of Orcs and Men is actually backwards compatible on Xbox One / Series.

    • @bigego503
      @bigego503 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daddydeadly3428 I didn't know. Seems to be unavailable but will keep my eye out. Thnx

    • @carlosmagnomacieira8210
      @carlosmagnomacieira8210 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      of orcs and men has a pc version... I did not play it because I did not like kt

  • @matt_r.2510
    @matt_r.2510 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greedfall is how I first found your channel years ago. I'm so glad you made this video as I have always wondered about the other Spiders games. You and I have similar tastes and I have played or try to play most of the games you have covered or recommend.

  • @KrisP91
    @KrisP91 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As somebody who has played most of the Spiders games it is a real pleasure watching them evolve and get better with each new game they create.
    Props to them 👍

  • @grymmjack
    @grymmjack ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Great review. I actually beat Faery on my Xbox lol. It was janky but fun. I guess I'm not as hardcore as most, and older than some so it does not take much to impress me or make me happy. This video was great. Thanks for making it, it reminds me to play these games more. Even orcs and men, styx etc.

    • @Rigby350
      @Rigby350 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being hardcore means willing to play anything even if it's not up to par, being hardcore does NOT mean not willing to play games just cause they're janky

  • @baudsp
    @baudsp ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For Faery, the flying around really shines in the levels after the first. And it also offers some alternative solutions to quests

  • @dl30wpb
    @dl30wpb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just played the Mars game a few months ago. Got it for around a dollar. Was pretty good for what it was and the price. Greedfall was a hidden gem. Like a bargain bin Witcher 3.

  • @TehPh1L
    @TehPh1L ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Coming from Gothic I really loved Greedfall. Was the first and pretty much only that gave me alot of things I was looking in an RPG. Im really looking forward to Greedfall2

  • @Renegathu1
    @Renegathu1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DUDE i love that you put the GOTHIC game sountrack on the background

  • @headbangerdnb
    @headbangerdnb ปีที่แล้ว +27

    You're crazy. Mars: War Logs is an unpolished, euro-jank masterpiece. It's like BioWare's soul jumped right out of that studio after Mass Effect 1 and found a new home in France. You should go back and finish the game. Story's good and choice matters, which is very evident if you replay it and make different choices. Nice twist at the end of the second act too, depending a few key choices. I would love for Spiders to remaster it and do a deluxe edition bundled with The Technomancer.
    Edit: I'm listening to your Technomancer review now where you're comparing it to Mars: War Logs, and it definitely sounds like you didn't even make it out of the prison, which is literally just the opening act of the game.

    • @lairofhorrors1756
      @lairofhorrors1756 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      M:WL is Amazing! One of my favorite RPGs of that generation! Definitely Reminds me of an old Bioware title! I agree if he got past the first hour he would probably of liked it!

    • @pixelcount350
      @pixelcount350 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He probably only did a couple of hours and left. I finished that game to completion. Here's hoping for a third game in that series.

  • @onizate
    @onizate ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never knew Of Orcs and Men was a prequel to the Styx games. You had my interest, now you have my attention!

  • @Mataniel
    @Mataniel ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Played Bound by Flame, Technomancer and Greedfall. By far, I enjoyed Greedfall the most becuase of the refined combat and customization. But something about Bound by flame just screams for more. World is kinda interesting looking upon it and a sequel to that game, or at least in that setting would be cool as heck if they used similar sekiro like combat they did in Steel rising.
    I just hope they make world building better and more meaningful quests for their games in the future. That's where almost all of their games lack.

    • @XhumpersX
      @XhumpersX ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That genre of combat is called "souls-like" and its a well populated tag on steam in case you like that stuff.

    • @Mataniel
      @Mataniel ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@XhumpersX Souls like is one thing, Sekiro like would another. I 'played every single notable souls like game available. Hopefully games that are inspired by Sekiros deflect/parry combat are on the rise with Wo Long Fallen Dynasty, Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order and Surviror and Thymesia being prime examples of it.

  • @andrewstencel
    @andrewstencel ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I played Bound by Flame, The Technomancer and Greedfall to completion, and those were pretty good games, although with some flaws. Greedfall was the most well rounded one of those, despite some repetitive elements, but I had fun overall.

  • @TheXiconhoca
    @TheXiconhoca ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent vid, as always :)
    I played most of these and enjoyed them in varying degrees - couldn't for the life of me beat the last boss on BbF on hard and i thought that the combat in The Technomancer was quite fun, i played it on pc some years ago. I join the majority hailing Greedfall as the favorite, played it, in multiple PLs and always loved it - excited to see what comes next from Spiders.

  • @drearmouse9510
    @drearmouse9510 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Wow, I absolutely Loooved Mars War Logs. Even on the hardest difficulty. A couple spots felt pretty unfair, but it gets pretty epic if ya pick the right abilities. Definitely worth tryin again if ya find some time & patience!

    • @KrazyKain
      @KrazyKain ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think one reason people hate the combat in both Mars and Technomancer is that enemies can just decide to dodge your attacks, and you'll just swing through the enemy. If you don't immediately dodge when you notice that, they'll get a free hit. It actually adds a fun sense of rhythm to the combat when you are aware of it, but if not, it'll just feel like enemies just get a free hit in on you.

    • @drearmouse9510
      @drearmouse9510 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@KrazyKain Yeah, it was definitely clunky at parts, but whew.. so much atmosphere & strategy I honestly barely even noticed it. Though I am a diehard Piranha Bytes & Spiders fan, so prolly a bit biased in that regard. xD

    • @KrazyKain
      @KrazyKain ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@drearmouse9510 Piranha Bytes and Spiders...
      You are a person of good taste.
      Literally my favorite rpg developers.

    • @drearmouse9510
      @drearmouse9510 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KrazyKain Aaamen! No one does it quite like them. Just had a flashback of needing to shrink a giant troll with a scroll in Gothic so ya cld squish em, and it's like.. you don't even see that type of curious gameplay anymore. And that was over 20 years ago!

    • @btnhstillfire
      @btnhstillfire ปีที่แล้ว

      No lol. Thats one of the worst games Ive ever played. Theres no excuse or defending that garbage game.

  • @gri22lybear
    @gri22lybear ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bound by Flame has to be my fav game in their repertoire! I’ve played a bunch of their games and I love Spiders, but Bound By Flame is actually the only one that I’ve beaten atm. 😊

  • @jainaymadden2084
    @jainaymadden2084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm crying because I've had an idea for this video for years, but then again, I'm not a content creator, so at least someone talked about Spiders. Definitely gonna give this a watch.

  • @Negolash
    @Negolash ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely love of orc and men and Styx games that followed.

  • @Qrdez
    @Qrdez ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My dude, Technomancer is not the sequel, it's moving in the same timeline, or even a lil bit earlier, we're able to meet few characters, that will appear LATER in Mars. Anyway, thanks for reminding about Spiders, one of the weirdest game dev studio, and I totally love it :)

  • @Jynx0208
    @Jynx0208 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video made me go back to pick up where I left off in Greedfall, thanks!

  • @timinou9915
    @timinou9915 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If you liked Styx , hes own solo games are worth trying too !
    I kinda hope they do another game in the Bound by Flames world. Loved the game but its kinda short and limited.

    • @Minority119
      @Minority119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      V good games but man I'm not gonna lie I'm still rather miffed they went and had prequels based on Styx instead of a sequel that picks up on that cliffhanger

    • @timinou9915
      @timinou9915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Minority119 Im guessing they realized Styx was the most popular and interesting character. The games are mostly stealth and platforming so at least both serie are their own thing. They might still do a sequel later , who know 😜

  • @armelior4610
    @armelior4610 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I only played the last 2, and the improvement in Greedfall compared to technomancer is huge. Not so much the technical side, but better quests, writing, bigger world, better voice acting,etc. which is the important part in a RPG. It still was too long for its own good, because there is too much backtracking and the enemy variety is too low.
    I rarely had trouble with the limited aggro range of combat encounters, but it's a positive when you're just sneaking around a group of wild animals for the 15th time and don't want to fight AGAIN : just run !

  • @Miki90Mar
    @Miki90Mar ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Played almost all of them my favorites are definitely Technomancer and Greedfall although Mars War Logs is not that bad either even if a bit short, Bound by Flames i wanted to like more but i kinda hated the sluggish combat and the damage sponge enemies towards the end. But i gotta say they all got a particular charm to them

  • @jessehayes8052
    @jessehayes8052 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Greedfall was an incredible game with a unique story, great combat, beautiful setting, and a useful and rewarding party system outside of a Bioware RPG. Bound By Flame had most of those qualities but was too short, and needed a larger variation of enemies, I had wished that the game was expanded and allowed you to build a large resistance force against all of the Ice Lords

  • @chillhour6155
    @chillhour6155 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Huge respect to these middleware developer's who go from strength to strength, I hope one day they can find similar success and growth Fromsoft have achieved over the decades

  • @milanhvozdik3379
    @milanhvozdik3379 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I finished Bound by Flame (it was kind of meh by the end, but had fun), then I played Technomancer and Greedfall, enjoyed both games, but dropped them as soon as I unlocked everything I wanted in progression. Just didn't have the motivation to continue. But I really really liked Steelrising. The combat loop was extremely satisfying. Input sequencing kind of felt like an easy version of Sekiro, just with dodge instead of parry. Played with two swords most of the time. Also loved the stamina regen by cooling and fun ways of dealing with elemental damage: Attacking when frozen, dodging when of fire, and NOTHING for some reason when electrified. Could have been jumping or something, not sure why they didn't do anything with that. And the story was also good, some sidequests had really good writing and dialogue. Characters that are supposed to be scientists acted really consistently and believably, which is really rare. And level design and boss fights were great. I had so much fun beating shit up I didn't mind the lack of enemy variety at all.

  • @aperezdeal
    @aperezdeal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greedfall had great quest design. The attempted coup by the guards guild was very well executed and your actions as the PC greatly impacted the world.

  • @ImmortalGodEmperor
    @ImmortalGodEmperor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at last, someone covers Faery. That's like their most forgotten game, nobody talks about it ever

  • @jessecurle716
    @jessecurle716 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Technomancer is a game that I still think about regularly. The setting, the atmosphere, the mechanics. It's all just so genuine and effective. 30fps isn't ideal, but that's a minor quibble. Mars: War Logs is an excellent prequel as well. I'd love to revisit Mars in a future title.

  • @Mitchiepoo97
    @Mitchiepoo97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve gotten all four endings on Bound By Flame. I really like the setting and the lore, even though they don’t really tell you the lore outright. The combat and quest system could be better, but it was really good for its time. Also the music is lovely and haunting.

  • @frntkgamingshorts
    @frntkgamingshorts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *For Mars: War Logs (yes, I love the game)
    - the names in the game such as "Innocence", Roy "Temperance", "Charity", and other names that sounds like characteristics are given by the corporations that rule Mars. Those corporations are the ones providing necessities such as water so they hold a lot of power
    - you can give commands to your companion but you can't fully control them like Roy (the main character). There are 4 commands from what I remember
    - if you're interested in old school rpgs I would recommend it. It's much easier to get in to than Witcher 1 (which I also recommend)

  • @AaronHendu
    @AaronHendu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have most of their games due to tbem always being on sale or part of bundles. I have been meaning to try that Mars one...seems like something I would certainly enjoy.

  • @click4gameplay
    @click4gameplay  ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My name is Innocence.

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear ปีที่แล้ว

    I quite like how ambitious Spiders remains. Looking forward to Greedfall 2!

  • @TheAquarius87
    @TheAquarius87 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Gothic ost in the background hits the feels, man!

  • @TrueRem
    @TrueRem ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greedfall is my favorite rpg on this list,i recently played it and was pleasently suprised on how enjoyable the story and game was,still havent beaten it yet,might replay it just to see the other options i missed.

  • @TheAxiolamer
    @TheAxiolamer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved the combat of greedfall

  • @brendenyamagaya8647
    @brendenyamagaya8647 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played theough bound by flame years ago on xbox 360 and lost the disc was really happy to find the nostalgia and i realized how odd the story was, but i enjoyed the customization of the weapons and armor and the fact it had a fable-esk moral system where your choices brought you closer to the demon or choosing to ignore the demon entirely i really hope spiders brings back this system in a future game!

  • @rodrickstrong
    @rodrickstrong 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am currently replaying greedfall, and i am enjoying it, figuring out what quest to finish first so the other quests will have some good outcome. and i also figure out how to lure away the guardians who are guarding some legendary item.

  • @rusty7448
    @rusty7448 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Now I really wanna replay Gothic II.

  • @CptKennyLoggins
    @CptKennyLoggins ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember Faery, picked it up for like $1 back in the day. Janky but there was some fun to be had. I skipped Greedfall as I was comparing it to some heavy hitters at the time. I didn't know that these two games were made by the same devs. Looks like they have really made some strides which is respectable. Will have to check it out!

  • @tamniall
    @tamniall ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if *Spiders* & *Piranhabytes* merged together? 🤔

  • @JohnnyWalker1077
    @JohnnyWalker1077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bound by Flame always looked interesting to me. Might pick it up soon.

  • @niianiia52
    @niianiia52 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the Gothic soundtrack in the back! ❤ Pure nostalgia!

  • @bobbuilder155
    @bobbuilder155 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mars war logs had a better skill system than technomancer and bound by flame, in my opinion

  • @HughMansonMD
    @HughMansonMD ปีที่แล้ว

    I was looking forward to Steel Rising and I had no idea it released until watching this video right now

  • @AxxmorbidfloristxxC
    @AxxmorbidfloristxxC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Out of all the early spiders games, I always liked the combat in technomancer. It’s not even close to the standard of steel rising obviously, but i seem to have had the opposite experience than c4g in this one. Although I did mainly use the staff too.

  • @sadmarinersfan8935
    @sadmarinersfan8935 ปีที่แล้ว

    There definitely a studio with endless creativity and ideas just never enough money, and people to make it

  • @JohnDeHope3
    @JohnDeHope3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to know more about Spiders re: Piranha Bytes. GreedFall reminds me very much of Gothic. Is there any cross over?

  • @SPVKgameChannel
    @SPVKgameChannel ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never played of any of this games, but I interested only "Of Orcs and men", because of setting and unique main heroes, thx for video!

  • @serjtubin
    @serjtubin ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gotta love that Gothic 2 soundtrack in the background :)

  • @evbvini
    @evbvini ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelent video!

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun choice to mix Spider games with Gothic music. I often wonder what it would be like if Piranhabytes and Spider games teamed up.
    And (maybe later) try giving another chance to Mars Warlogs. It's my favourite Spiders game so far. I replay it like once a year and love it. The only game I replayed more is probably Gothic 1 and 2 NOTR 😀

  • @Priimerra
    @Priimerra ปีที่แล้ว

    good vid

  • @nomercy8989
    @nomercy8989 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember playing Mars War logs. I don't know if it was free for a weekend or if it was a demo but I remember also being bored. I bought Bound by Flame though and enjoyed it even with the flaws.

  • @t-revstastetube8900
    @t-revstastetube8900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved Greedfall, technomancer, and I have to play steel rising more but I buy all of there games on launch now. Also styx is such a fuuny character yhey should have him show up in all games in some way lol

  • @stateofmind578
    @stateofmind578 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I played them all and Greedfall was a big step forwards.
    I loved that game.
    Steelrising is another big step forwards.
    Keep it up.

  • @irate_samurai
    @irate_samurai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love spiders game's, played a few of them and alway look forward to their new releases, the games are pretty fun and sometimes ambitious with what they try to do, sometimes i wonder what their games would look like with a little more time and budget to full realize those ambitious

  • @fetusthegreat9797
    @fetusthegreat9797 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love spiders. I have really enjoyed watching them grow and bound by flame, steel rising, and especially greedfall are some of my favorite games

  • @FijianSouljah1312
    @FijianSouljah1312 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aww man I LOVE the money glitch in GreedFall LMAOO

  • @fuzzylogic3017
    @fuzzylogic3017 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased (on a major sale), played through and reviewed Faery: Legends of Avalon. I considered the game truncated to less than half its proper length.
    I wish they return to it one day and complete it properly. Its gameplay was quite enjoyable as was the story.

  • @categaman
    @categaman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played Steelrising in january and I've really liked the experience. So I found your video about the studio.
    Inspired by your video, I played Bound by Flame and it got hooked till the end.. unlike lords of the fallen (2014) that I couldn't endure.
    Next, it will be GreedFall, eventually.
    Very interesting video.. exploring things outside the mainstream.

  • @LivingZombieJew
    @LivingZombieJew ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With every next game (excluding Steelrising) it looked like Spiders are going in right direction to make awesome big RPG. But they are going there in a very slow pace and in a last game they went of the rails and just followed the trends. Look how CDPred went so fast from Witcher 1 to Witcher 3 and that's something that Spiders are missing.

  • @munchinmomo
    @munchinmomo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i remember getting faery when i was 10 played it for about 10 minutes and thats pretty much all i remember yup great memory still with me after 13 years

  • @DevilOfRoses
    @DevilOfRoses ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spiders has always been the little developer that... could? I enjoyed Mars: War Logs, even with its jank, and the fact that combat came down to beating things with a stick, but it was fun and getting an indirect sequel filled me with more joy than most AAA titles ever provide.

  • @DetetiveRick
    @DetetiveRick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of orcs and men...how i wish there were more game devs who would make games with unusual characters like orcs,goblins and so on. Tired of noble humans, hippie elfs and drunken dwarves. This game and styx are one of my favorites.

  • @aligmal5031
    @aligmal5031 ปีที่แล้ว

    will you ever review chronicles of myrtana archolos ? just finished it 2 weeks ago after 153 hour what a masterpiece

  • @z0zef
    @z0zef ปีที่แล้ว

    I told you about Mars war logs :P . I beat the game and I felt so relieved, it was an excruciating experience. Btw innocence reminds me of Jared Leto.
    Bound by flame was the first spiders' game that I played. It felt like a chore in the end so I wouldn't replay it even tho I enjoyed it.
    Technomancer is my favorite, I prefer the sci-fi over fantasy, the companions system were interesting and had good in depth stories. I thought that there was an impact on hit but I could be wrong. Definitely a game that I would replay.
    Greedfall didn't clicked to me, I'm not into Victorian theme, and playing Elex back then overshadowed this game.
    Steelrising, Ι never tried and possible I never would, due to theme.
    I don't count "of orcs and men" for a spider rpg, felt more like cyanide to me.
    So, no more spider games to "5 forgotten rpgs" series.

  • @wasd-moves-me
    @wasd-moves-me ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love for Spiders to become the new BioWare and they are well on their way

  • @vorpalrabbit4927
    @vorpalrabbit4927 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have played every Spiders game and am waiting for them to really nail the gameplay experience.
    We get little glimpses of greatness here and there.
    One day they'll get it all right and I am here for it.
    Viva Spiders

  • @Noah.Grant.B
    @Noah.Grant.B ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big sale going on Xbox, picked up Mars: War Logs, Bound By Flame and Jade Empire for $6.12!!! Epic score, thanks for reminding me of these games!

  • @pecadorr93
    @pecadorr93 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do remember finishing Bound by Flame but don't remember anything more🙃 Might try Greedfall tho

  • @galvind976
    @galvind976 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've only played Greedfall and I really like it, so I am excited for the sequel that should be coming out in 2024😄👍

  • @dillonkauffman8687
    @dillonkauffman8687 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really loved greedfall, the new world colonization setting is always super cool to me, and the game had a seriously original world, and I can’t wait for Greedfall two to explore its old world

  • @TheOblivionMan
    @TheOblivionMan ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually finished Mars: War Logs. From what I remember, your best combat strategy is to spec in to crafting and technomancer, then just keep spamming grenades and chain lightning to abuse stunlocked enemy.

  • @Psymon_real
    @Psymon_real 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really hope these guys make a real homerun game, seems like they deserve it.

  • @GmanTheTank
    @GmanTheTank ปีที่แล้ว

    I've personally only played Bound by Flame, which i enjoyed for awhile. The later fights in that game become so frequent and tedious they killed the fun. I do want to try Greedfall, it looks pretty fun.

  • @YaNoob1234
    @YaNoob1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact, they gave Styx his own standalone stealth game, I think they maybe made two of them, master of shadows and shards of darkness

  • @cadestormdance6301
    @cadestormdance6301 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Styx has his own spin off game series thats an underrated series

  • @axelander9397
    @axelander9397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'Of orcs and men' is fromm them?
    Loved that Game! It Had a cool world :)

    • @teyrngalahad5719
      @teyrngalahad5719 ปีที่แล้ว

      They weren't develeped by Spiders, but Styx: Master of Shadows and Styx: Shards of Darkness are set in the same setting.

  • @habijjj
    @habijjj ปีที่แล้ว

    I think with steal rising they wanted to really focus on the action that way they could improve later gamed

  • @danbuckig4564
    @danbuckig4564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Played Faery, Bound by Flame and I own but haven't played Greedfall yet, got too many other games on my plate RN. Never knew they were all from the same studio though LOL