Spinning Wheels With 30 000 RPM Electric Motor
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Small Plastic wheel and 28'' bicycle wheel Vs. 1.2 kw 30 000 RPM electric motor. Will the wheels explode or motor melt? There is also cool slow motion clips filmed with Chronos 1.4 high speed camera
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If you have suggestions for things to explode next OR for better motor please let us know :D I will at least explode some large grinder disks on next video to see how dangerous they are when mounted to fast grinder, with some ballistic gelatin off course :D
Add two gears and bring that thing to over 100k that will explode everything
HOLY SHEET THAT WAS FUCKINK AWESOME!
Possibly an air tool may work in place of the motor
You should have pulsed the power on initial startup as to not burn out the windings once sufficient speed is gained then it would have been ok
Make a system to release the wheel, and let it go away into the wild xD
I seriously want to see this bicycle wheel ripping apart. Like for part 2!
Iakwbos Nomik same!
They just need to accelerate slower
Or use a pneumatic or hydraulic motor
If they had spin started the wheel the router would have been ok. It could not survive the startup load.
The problem was that the motor was generating a lot of heat due to the load, but wasn't spinning fast enough for its internal fan to cool its windings adequately. You might rig up a leaf blower to force air through the motor to cool it when it's running slow under high load.
"When the smoke is out it won't work"
I wish all the kids in the world could learn this valuable lesson.
But its not like that allways
Because it works with smoke - when the smoke comes out it cannot work anymore
@@wernerbloemwagen6878 hahahahahhaa ur hilarious what a comedian
@@revolution5547 : it's an old joke Revo regarding electrical equipment - strange you haven't heard it before ánd one that he actually made during his video - listen again carefully and you'll pick it up.
@@wernerbloemwagen6878 thats why i said "ur funny" cuz u use old not funny jokes
With a small smoke canister you could refill the Router and it would be good as new 🤣
Lmmfao
Ha haaaaa!! Was he joking
It needs to ber magic smoke, so you'll need to get it blessed or enchanted depending on the manufacture's specs.
You are stupid !!!!!!!!!
Yeah,but no china smoke, you need to put back in, the *same* smoke, or a factory made new one; it comes packaged.
3:27 "...and then we go hella... far away"
Hella has spread as far as Finland. Hella can't be stopped.
well they do have " *hell* -sinki" so it was only a matter of time
"Unfortunatly all the smoke is out and electric only works with smoke."
ROFL, I like that.
I love the "magic smoke" concept, we talk about it all the time at work :D
Yep :D I thought that there would be somekind of heat shield on machine like this but no :D
No smoke - machines don't work.. Simple rule!
@@Beyondthepress there kind of is, but it only works at high speeds
Pity you can't get the refills any more.
One of the best jokes ever and he described it just perfect, love it 😂
I think you should’ve given the bicycle wheel a good pre-spinning by hand before plugging in the router. That way the tool wouldn’t have to labor so hard just to get it moving and use up all of its smoke and fail.
What the hell is all this smoke talk
..lol. there is no smoke in a motor...
dominic bender there is too smoke in a motor. That's how you know the motor has failed. When you let the smoke out of it. In fact at 7:42 in this video is when he starts to let the smoke out, and the motor begins to fail. He even talks about letting all the smoke out at 9:00.
I doubt it would help. The two issues that cause the motor to fail at low rpm is drawing too much current through the motor windings and reduced cooling from the built in fan running too slow. Even at 1000 rpm it's spinning at 1/30 of the designed speed.
Well it is technically melting the brushes and turning them into smoke, until the poppet popped in the brush, so you’re right in a way
@GardenasFinestSGGC - Electronics run on smoke as well. Trust me. If you let the smoke out of anything electronic it stops working.
(OK - It is a long running joke. Either you are a 6 year old with no sense of humour or you are actually the stupid one.)
8:56 if you let all the smoke out of the motor it won't run mechanics 101
You can buy smoke in a can so you can refill it but next time will only run on 415v🤣👍
When he said that I legit slammed my head on my desk... Kinda hurts now.
@@teampython3134 Me too, because they should have had an original magic smoke refill (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_smoke#/media/File:Magic_smoke_refill_(5990429717)_(2).jpg) from IBM (where magic smoke was invented) at standby!
+Michael Bamber Best smoke comes in bags...
As an electrical engineer his smoke theory is the stupidest thing i have ever heard related to electrical stuff
This channel is always doing some crazy, pushing the limit, mythbustery shit.. And I like it👍
I explained it to my father as "Like Jackass, but in Finland"
It's his Spanish accent.
@@michaelsandell4688 so a mythbusters version of the dudesons
chopperkid19 F
@@michaelsandell4688 jackass? They don't hurt themselves. Its the furthest thing away from jackass.
hook a variac up to the motor and ramp it up slowly so it doesnt burn out but still get high RPM
Do you watch the Photonicinduction channel?
Captain Heat I had this exact same thought. The infeed current is burning the windings up before it can even spin fast enough to cool itself.
While a variac may limit the motor's stall current, the motor is only designed for high RPM and the light load of router bits. At low low speeds, the motor's cooling fan is ineffective and the motor may still overheat during the power-limited acceleration from lack of airflow.
its due to the high amps at starting, the windings are just to small to handle the current over longer time, the cooling fan wil not help in this case.< its a series motor, build for high rpm, the higher the rpm, the lower the current it draws.
I agree with this suggestion
9:17 “all electric stuff works with smoke and when smoke comes out it doesn’t work” lmao
It's a router.
EDIT ... It WAS a router. Thanks for the laugh.
"I'm not going to do like boring safe stuff like slow-mo guys"
LOL Shots fired xD
they do suck tho xD htp are the only big channel thats not a sell out and i like that
HAHHA
I was reading through these comments and he said this the same time I read this. It was great.
Hasn't been watching them has he. Some of their videos are quite explosive.
The thing was slow Mo guys versus hydraulic press Channel and Beyond The Press is slow Mo guys do 99% of their recording in a backyard, so they pretty much have to do stuff that is relatively safe because there's a lot of people that live near them. these guys however live in the middle of freaking nowhere, so they can do stuff that's a little bit more dangerous because of her projectile goes flying say 100 some odd meters it probably won't hurt anyone in any way because they either own that land or no one owns that land. Think of it like demolition ranch, Matt has a huge ranch that he owns which is why he can afford to do all that really stupid stuff because that's his property so if someone gets hurt then they shouldn't have been trespassing. It's a similar thing with these guys
I did laugh at ‘now we have to take it back to the shop and say it broke’!
Hay, Harbour Freight did say that it was guaranteed! 😃
Next time try using premium smoke instead of regular smoke!! and make sure the smoke cap is really tight!! don't let the smoke out!!!😁😁😁
😂😂😂
Underrated
Lauri!? I didn't know you would quit this easily! You guys can't let the bicycle tire win! You must deal with it!
it could attack at any moment!
It's genuinely shocking. You know he has a variac somewhere and you also know that he thought of using it, but he didn't for some reason. Follow up video maybe?
Spin an entire car until it explodes apart. Or a piano. Spin a piano until it explodes.
Lmao. Im sure spinning a car until it explodes isnt easy, but its doable. Somehow....
Andy Crowley Sr. your acting like a junior not a Sr.
@Skum Dum youre*... Whats so wrong about that? Afterall, its a username.
Dead Meme I wasnt talking to you dead boy.
Skum Dum goo.gl/GJ1DS7
did you just assume my gender?
wrong smfh so much trump in 1 comment.
"All electric stuff works with smoke, so when the the smoke gets out, it doesn't work any more." Solid science.
Unfortunately you are not going to be able to spin a wheel that size up, as 30k RPM would mean a tyre speed of about Mach 3. 1kg of material at that speed has 1MJ of kinetic energy. IE in a vacuum it would take a 1000W motor near 17 minutes to spin it up to speed. A normal bike wheel is more like 2.5kg assuming 700C and 25mm tyre with all steel construction. That would mean more like 3/4 hour. Even at 75m/s we are talking 14kJ kinetic energy which is only a little less than an M107 12.7mm muzzle energy. Basically if it hit your arm it would not just break it - it would take it off and 20mm plexiglass would be about as effective as fog in stopping it. So please be careful.
Excelente analisis
@@franciscagarayotero2743
Yes, but he should do it anyway.
Because science
Oh ya I get it totally
Great explanation! Maybe help the wheel up to speed with another motor rubbing against the tire and then turn on the router. Or try a 1hp 3450RPM motor to see the results.
THis is another example that electrical things run on smoke. let the smoke out and they quit.
Plus the wheel would have to be amazingly balanced to reach even 1000 rpm.
There are but two classes of people on earth who can pull off those sunglasses as a look. Finnish people, and Jeff Goldblum.
SUGGESTION
The majority of the damage to the motor is the current draw when its starting and at low speeds. Set up a stand next to the wheel with a leaf blower to pre-spin the wheel somewhat and the motor may survive round 2.
Thats what i was thinking. And possibly use the variable speed on the router. Start it up slowly. Could be done with a light dimmer?
👍 The cooling system of the unit probably only works well at near full speed, so after spinning up with leaf blower leave it on and force air through the router to keep it cool. Better yet use compressed air if available.
@@knifejames8163 good luck finding a dimmer that can handle that much current. The triac in the router was getting a workout as it is.
It's not only the weaker cooling of the fan, it's the lack of back-EMF at low speeds, so you get more current than you would at full speed. The inertia is too much of a load then.
yep, around 3 times at start.
This channel is so much cooler than those ones that use equipment that probably costs 10s of thousands of dollars and a team of engineers to set up. This is real backyard engineering!
"An electric wood machine".
I need one of those.
get a washing machine motor and use that in future tests ! ( a good one ) they can up around 20k RPM over voltaged ! just connect it to a variac
koviack probably don't mess with it unless you know what you're doing.
@koviack What you want for spinning stuff to death is an old front loader universal motor! Those things are pretty indestructible and will run on just about any power. And with the motors you have got, if it came out of an inverter drive washing machine or direct drive etc. Its quite possible its a brushless DC motor. They are a pain to try and run without the controllers. (if it sort of looks like the hub motor from an ebike, thats a pretty tell tail sign its one of these)
koviack yeah it's how you don't die though. Start small.
induction motors need variable frequency drive and not over voltage , with higher frequency u can make it spin faster without damaging the coil.... and most motors won't even spin correct with higer voltage....
Maybe you guys could build a transparent barrel to subject things to high levels of centrifugal force? Think of what cupcakes or blueberries or bananas would look like under 40 or 50 g's !
YES!!!
Great idea! It might be hard to design an axle that holds on to soft objects like fruit for long enough to make it interesting, though.
I think this is how Finland fought off a Swedish invasion hundreds of years ago. And still to this day, Swedes have an instinctual hatred of barrels.
Centrifuge press channel! Great idea
Old comment but someone did this with a lawn mower and got like 1500 g's lol, search on yt lawn mower centrifuge
There is a saying amongst American electricians regarding motors: “Don’t let the smoke out.” I’m not sure if it translates well to Finnish.
Your backyard looks like a backyard in Tennessee or Virginia, I love it man
I love how quickly you get to the cool stuff; there's hardly any filler or nonsense going on in your videos. I can still remember seeing your first HPC videos linked on Reddit, really cool to see how far you've come =)
Instead of connecting it straight onto the router, perhaps have a few pulleys and gear up another electrical motor, then there is some slippery on the pulleys to get the bicycle wheel going fast enough. Nice try though! try a go cart wheel, and a kids bike wheel perhaps?
"If the last one didn't look super dangerous, I'm sure that this wheel (will)." lol he's got jokes
You need a variac, gradually increase power but not to full power. wheel should self destroy before 50% power. This Router machine is a high rpm motor and not cut out for low rpm high torq.
TIYL4W sounds like he got a variac on it or some kinda dimmer...!!!!
You owe us an explosion! lol
Marvin martian would be beside himself.
I think best way to high RPM and torque is a burshless setup running on 4car batterys , you can get 1-3kw brushless RC Motors pretty cheap from china
Large lipos can do way more current than car batteries
@@tommihommi1 maybe but not for a resonable prize . 4 car batteries will give you over 50v with a max oft 400amps without getting hot or shir
That is the best idea, plus they would have remote control.
That would be really nice as well. Those also don't have the start up problem that you have using a power tool as motor. The motor and gearing in power tools isn't designed to start with a heavy load on them. So if you just apply full mains voltage from a stand still, the heat loss will be huge and the motor heats up a lot before the wheel get up to speed. For the brush less motors the controller apply a low voltage (and low frequency) from start, then gradually increase. That means they will heat up much less. Then when the wheel get up to speed they will also have the power to get up to high RPM
Buy the Turnigy Super EDF motor. Max rpm is 30,000rpm. I have it in a rc plane that can go 200mph.
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You just made my day... I love how Lauri (please forgive me if I spelled your name wrong) refers to the smoke as something that the router has a limited supply of. Kinda like ink in an ink pen, when it runs out it’s no good... When the router runs outta smoke it’s no more good. 😂😂😂
You should have gone to another hardware store and bought a new bag of smoke then you could have filled it up and tried again..... 😂😂
HA! I was thinking the same type of thing.
@@SamuraiJACsr LOL....Looks like I only just beat you to write it in the comments. No hard feelings? 😁😉
Of course the experiment failed when you actively removed Safety Officer Nelli! ;)
What a rookie mistake for us :D
Why is there a sticker in ur name?
Ha Ha "it's not alright any more".
Lol best line ever. All tools work with smoke, so when the smoke is gone they don't work.
look at some of the rc brushless motors. you could easily get a setup that would do 10k rpm and a couple of thousand watts
My old 1/8 brushless motor is rated for 60000rpm if memory serves.
I was thinking a heli motor, some of them are good for 10kw and have a pretty low kv.
send it to AvE for analysis :D and try to put a wheelbarrow wheel on there :D
It let the smoke out!
yes but there are multiple things that can make it let the magic smoke out :D motor, control circuit, trigger, cabling and so on :P
chinsy windings let the smoke out, no doubt. This machine probably has no electronics at all in it.
toilet brush in this case it had nothing to do with epoxy, but just with the thickness of the windings and the lack of a thermal switch. Epoxy etc can help against mechanical load, such as vibrations, making the tool last long when used "normally".
I would love to see AvE dissect this with his amazing bumblfuckery to see whose theory is correct.
"The main problem was the smoke came out of here" LMFAO
😂🤣😂 Safety spikes - love it !
'Router' in American English.
Bah...i thought i was first.
I might add *handheld* router, cuz I've seen table mount ones that look totally different but are basically the same thing
A "router"
in British English too!
And a nice one too.
No router is that internet thingy ;)
Take the reflector off the bicycle wheel to help balance.
Actually I used the reflector to balance my bicycle wheels. And then a small led weight.
It depend on the wheel, some it helps and some it doesn’t.
Wow I'm on a stupid video. Thanks for the warning of my wasted time.
First, I thought the same. But then, I realized that no need because the router can't survive such load at low speed. And it did not.
8:00 they play the shredding guitar for the fail too lol
“Do not try this at home” also him: gives a step by step of how to make it
Spin one of those round sawblades yo
Isn’t that what a circular saw does??
@@MikeL-FLYeah, but make it faster!
As opposed to the square sawblades
I spun one of those spherical sawblades, yo, it fucked shit up in all kinds of ways.
The countryside is amazing btw, absolutely stunning. I wish I lived in Finland.
"Safety spikes"
Nice.
"Boring safe stuff like the slow mo guys" now that is a wicked burn!
That is a beautiful country you live in, thanks for the cool vids! Jimmy from USA
Put a lawnmower blade on it and toss fruit in it in slowmo
hama traba i think you're suggesting in wrong channel.
You’d be better off with using a lawnmower lmao
Could somehow use the lawnmower to spring the bicycle wheel
Lol 69 likes
Let it cool down and see if there is some smoke inside. Lol. That’s badass. Love this.
Always thought that he was a old man talking in his other vids!😂 Sorry just seen alot of your vids but never any with actually you in the frame! Good Vid mate!
Mike Wright I know right lol
@@silverrain99205 Lol
I use the smoke term at work with guitar amplifiers. Exactly like you said Once the smoke escapes its done. Maybe get a speed controller for next time so you can increase speed slowly and maybe smoke doesn't escape. Thanks for sharing and as always Keep Building👍
yep you need at least 6 or 7 kw of power to overcome the air drag from the spokes of the wheel and you don't need 30k rpm motor one that spin around 8k to 10k rpm will be more that enough to destroy it for that matter a big angle grinder like a 200mm size grinder will do and you wont need more than about 1.5kw of power to spin it still was an interesting video :)
he got it to 70MPH not too bad
what if you get something that needs over 20k rpm b4 it explodes? then a 30k rpm motor would be nice. He should get 2 motors with different RPM lol
A engine from a car or motorbike will be powerfull enough. 6000 rpm, wheelspeed 200 m/s or 720 km/h.
Here's specifically why the motor burned out: The cooling fan is directly attached to the motor shaft, and it will only cool effectively when the motor is spinning really fast. Normally this would be attached to something that has very low rotational inertia, so it would reach its normal operating speed very quickly, and the cooling fan would be cooling it before it overheats. Also, this kind of motor is often series wound, which means it will draw an extra large current when it is rotating slowly - a double problem. So as another commenter suggested, either use an electronic controller to allow the speed to creep up slowly, therefore avoiding the overheating problem, or you could use something that blows air into the air intakes while it is going slowly to compensate for the built-in cooling fan going slowly.
If the small weel has a diameter of 30 centimeter it destroyed at 380 km/h or 236 mile/h
I love you😂
Lauri/Annie,that motor"device thingy"in English is called a"ROUTER".
and pronounced like cow - ter. But I would have liked to hear his pronunciation of it.
cheeto4493 But only in this case. If it's a router of the network kind it's a 'rooter' - unless you're USAnian or in Australia where rooter/rooting refers something else entirely...
+Graham Langley yes, a "rooter" had best not "root" the network here.
Maybe go nuts with the idea. A very powerful motor vs bicycle wheel, cart wheel, even full size car tire. Sky is the limit at BTP !
The sky is the limit... Hmm, but what if you send the fragments into orbit?
XD
what if you give your motor unlimited energy, then some cosmic mumbo jumbo happens and accelerate's the fragents into orbit, to escape velocity, galactic escape velocity, and then get caught in Messier 51?
My grandpa would, when all the smoke came out, say break time and grab a cigar and a lawn chair and blow the smoke back into the machine and Voilà good as new😁
"The main problem was that the smoke came out from here..."
Lmao
0:47
It's called a router, basically a hand-held milling machine for wood.
Put a Stretch Armstrong toy on their spin him around see how far he expands
YourFace Calm down a little. It is entirely possible for two or more guys/gals to come up with the same idea independent of each other.
@YourFace electric motors run on electric.
Despite your warning, I'm still gonna try this at home. But I'm gonna use a hamster in a hamster wheel instead lol
I think I would have parked my car (3:46) somewhere else.
"We're gonna need a bigger router..."
In America it is called a router (used for cutting groves in wood)
In the UK it's called a router too
Australia down under as well
I think I am going to start using the name "wood machining thing"
@@snikwad003 That would cover a hole bunch af wood working tools eh. ..... but you wooden't be wrong lol.
I can´t think of another good tool that does high RPM at high power, but you could get another one of these and also buy a Variac. They´re not cheap, but you could use it for many other projects in the future.
If you do get one, buy one that does at least 10A, better 15A. You can sometimes also buy them used.
get an industrial motor none of this cheap store bought rubbish
@@punker4Real yeah like industrial diesel engine, then do a simple belt+puly system to change gearing & he can spin pretty well anything & only burn out belts.
That's sounds expensive but it does sound like he could do lots of high-speed and precise spinning with less loss overall.
I love it how common sense is across the continent that every electric or electronic device work on smoke. one of the fist things that we were thought in the university was that. and once we manage to get the smoke out of them we can just say goodbye on the spot, and bring a new one. Glad to see the proper values and knowledge know no conventional boundaries and borders.
The most important thing is: THEY TRIED! Unlike haters who dislikes these
Autumn has arrived I see based on Anni's coat
Should replicate this with a monster truck tire. 😉
HankB1993 those weigh hundreds of pounds,it would need a much stronger motor
Testament to the old adage: "Any machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough"
We need the lego engineer to help around here.
The problem is that you tried to spin the big wheel too fast and it put too high a load on the router (router is the English name for that machine. For big wheels you will need to start slowly and build up speed slowly so as not to strain the router too much.
Try a washing machine motor. They have serious RPM. Look forward to seeing that.
Like under 2000 rpm.
I know that I'm going to like your videos before I even watch them , keep blowing shit up
came for the content, stayed for the accents
You need an auto-transformer for the controlling of the speed, especially at the very beginning of a heavy load.
More danger! Saw blade!?! :P Thanks Lauri and Anni!!
The countryside in Finland is gorgeous!
iha ok, mut ootteko kattonu simpsonit sarjasta jakson himo läski homer :D siinä esiintyy koko simpsonit perhe eli myös bart simpsons homer poika fanit saavat nauraa ja naurattaahan se tietty myös vaikka homerin läski kuteet ja muut :D kannattaa kattoo nopee
"Jos et oo vielä kattonu himo läskii ni käy kattoo nopee"
Aha! With a little arithmatic, now I know how fast I can go in my wheelchair and which tyres and wheels will give up first! Happy New Year Lauri and Anni !
(No, I haven't got the figures right away here, yet. !:-) )
Can you try using a nozzle of compressed air to spin the wheel? If you point the nozzle of a compressed air gun tangent to the wheel, it should get the wheel spinning at the same velocity of the air coming out of the nozzle. I want to see that bicycle wheel rip apart!!
Phantom of the Menace I dunno.. Water doesn't compress so it might be an issue having impacts
Phantom of the Menace I wasn't thinking waterjet but yeah.. Water will cut through just about anything since it cannot compress
That bike wheel would have been going faster at 30k rpms than any compressed air stream though. Should be going somewhere around 2500 mph! Sonic boom from rotary motion is a helluva thing 😁
It's called a router, thanks guys.
that router was smoking like snoop dog
See if there's any smoke left... Dude, you would make a good electrician in the US Navy.
You should buy a road bike tire.
buy a 12hp electric motor and you should be okay
Hey!! You’re the “hydraulic press channel” guy. Lol. Finally see a face
In English that tool is a router, or in your case a smoke machine lol. Cheers from NZ another smile on a dull day, thank you.
"If you have ideas what to explode, please let us know!" - BTP, 2018
Beyond the Press: “I have no idea what this is in English.”
America: Neither do I.
United Kingdom: A spinwheel?
Canada: ooo nuo suorry.
Australia: That’s a scobber-babber, mate.
Has that guy learned English entirely from books? The way he mispronounces words is brilliant.
Ceiling fan, house cooling fan, vacuum cleaner inner fan, stuffed teddy bear
Nice sunglasses dudeman
Try a smaller bicycle wheel, 12" or 14" or 16"
This was "The bicycle wheel spinner 2.5 million"
😂
I enjoyed this video very much. Much more than the press videos.