Thank you for this. I just performed this adjustment. A couple notes of my own: 1) I found that I *had* to release to two upper/front bolts to allow the motor to pivot, 2) Another thing to keep in mind is you might want to make sure the two lower bolts are at the same height so that the motor pulley rotates in the same plane as the jack shaft pulley... I think this was the source of my noise.
Mines just gone in for first service but the day before it started to make a whistling sound on de-acceleration quite high pitched , it seems to go after about 5 mins of riding , does that sound like a belt issue ? . I reported it when I dropped the bike off but feel like most places just check bolts and brakes 🤷♂️
No, it's not broken. It doesn't matter that the lever doesn't stick in place when loosened. Its only job is to stop the motor from sliding AFTER you've tightened the bolt again. Just remember to hold it up against the stop while tightening the bolt.
That's a good video man on how to tension it I just got a primary chain 219 and my neighbor helped me install it and that little tab tensioner thing doesn't move up and down freely anymore it seems like I either got to pry it or something like that what do you recommend I do with that tab after I tension it and I want to keep it tensioned?
I don't have this bike anymore, but i would suggest if possible to have the tab lean up towards the stop pin before tightening to have it stay in position. Not quite sure what you mean with it not moving freely
I did this and now I get a ticking noise because the pulley on the jackshaft’s bolts rub on the frame, almost like the jackshaft isn’t aligned anymore but I never messed with the jackshaft only moved the motor…
My 2022 was fine.. my new 2023 is a bit tight.. im assuming they will stretch over time so I'm going to try just waiting for it to brake in and stretch a little. I can't find any 6mm bits here at home. I just have 6mm allen. They're on there really tight lol oh well
I loosened it. Sound happens if belt it tight and rubs on the sides of the pulley. Generally the sound will be worse when wet. That also means you can get the sound with the right tension, but bad alignment
So, is the technical belt-tightness specification from the service manual "Be able to move the belt with your finger, but not a lot?" Funny. I don't remember that phrase. It must be my absolute domination of the English language stifling my interpretation of technical guides.
Heh, i assumed that most of the people googling this problem wouldn't have belt guages, and the belt run is too short to properly get a sound for something like the gates belt drive app.
@@nemistech5425 It's an issue. Luna referred me to your video so that I would understand what the proper belt tension is for my bike. Your description, though vague and abstract, is the sort of technical specification much earlier vehicles were built around. I'm not faulting you, I'm faulting Sur-ron corporate. I've read their service manual. It is NOT abject garbage. Some of the pages have pretty pictures, plus their address is in there, so that's useful, but nearly 97% of it is utterly useless, or worse. Some of it actively causes a form of brain damage as your neurons are forced to make connections they should never make, which decreases general and specific cognition. I still have nightmares from their picture trying to describe "runout" just so they can tell you it's "bad" if there's a lot of it.
@@TheBsavage Hi, i totally understand your frustration, and i felt it myself when trying to do this the first time. The reality of it is that there are no official specs, and the belt is too short to do proper tensioning on without special tools like tension gauges. My video assume that you don't have this kind of tools, and despite being kinda vague, it's accurate enough. Since the belt run is this short, it doesn't really matter if it's not 100% up to spec unless you've got a new controller/battery delivering much more power. There should be a bit of play, but not so much that you risk it jumping over teeth
@@nemistech5425 he's not frustrated - just insecure. There are more videos about surrons and belt tension and he talks in the same manner with the content creators. You may be to modest to do it but I'll call a douche when I see one.
It doesn't sound worse. It's just that the chain noise is more noticeable when the belt is quiet (also the mic was moved a bit). I wish i did a recording of how the bike sounded after i did the belt conversion as well before i sold my sur ron. That sounded really quiet in comparison
Great video, well made. We need more tutorials like this. Please keep them coming! Just dropped a sub
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Thank you bud for the video! I disamble my surron to wrap it and im having a nigthmare rebuilding it. This helped a lot!
Thank you for this. I just performed this adjustment. A couple notes of my own: 1) I found that I *had* to release to two upper/front bolts to allow the motor to pivot, 2) Another thing to keep in mind is you might want to make sure the two lower bolts are at the same height so that the motor pulley rotates in the same plane as the jack shaft pulley... I think this was the source of my noise.
Thanks for the good notes. I'll make sure to explain this in my drivetrain/beltkit video
I think this was the cause of my slight noise that was just starting as well!
Mines just gone in for first service but the day before it started to make a whistling sound on de-acceleration quite high pitched , it seems to go after about 5 mins of riding , does that sound like a belt issue ? . I reported it when I dropped the bike off but feel like most places just check bolts and brakes 🤷♂️
Thanks! Loosening that other bolt helped a lot!
Very nice video! Thanks for the clear instructions
Thank you for showing the rear view of the funny silver stopper ha couldn't get it back on at first I took bolt right out
Very well done tutorial. Thank you👍
I have belt on my Surron and video of instalation also, its quite silent. Also, thank you for video, simple and to the point!
Post a video on the belt drive conversion when u finally do that lol
Thanks alot! I tightened my belt and i feel some kind of vibration on the left side of my surron. What could it be?
So the belt need to be little loose?
Thank you for posting this! But when I losen my bolts that small silver lever just falls down it doesn't seem to do anything? Must be broken correct?
No, it's not broken. It doesn't matter that the lever doesn't stick in place when loosened. Its only job is to stop the motor from sliding AFTER you've tightened the bolt again. Just remember to hold it up against the stop while tightening the bolt.
@@nemistech5425 thank you! I really appreciated this video! Could not find anything online about this at all especially with detail! Thanks again!
That's a good video man on how to tension it I just got a primary chain 219 and my neighbor helped me install it and that little tab tensioner thing doesn't move up and down freely anymore it seems like I either got to pry it or something like that what do you recommend I do with that tab after I tension it and I want to keep it tensioned?
I don't have this bike anymore, but i would suggest if possible to have the tab lean up towards the stop pin before tightening to have it stay in position. Not quite sure what you mean with it not moving freely
How much tension is felt on the primary belt when being pushed/moving with being on?
Any at all? Some? None?
Thanks
I did this and now I get a ticking noise because the pulley on the jackshaft’s bolts rub on the frame, almost like the jackshaft isn’t aligned anymore but I never messed with the jackshaft only moved the motor…
It seems every surron from the factory has improper tension/alignment of the belt
Whats the torque spec on those bolts
Great video thanks!
My 2022 was fine.. my new 2023 is a bit tight.. im assuming they will stretch over time so I'm going to try just waiting for it to brake in and stretch a little. I can't find any 6mm bits here at home. I just have 6mm allen. They're on there really tight lol oh well
Beware that belts do not always behave the same way chains do. Some belts have a tendency to tighten up over time.
@@nemistech5425 i see.. thanks for the tip.. I'll keep an eye on it
great video thanks! was it to tight?
Wait so did you loosen the belt or tighten it? It's not clear whether this bad sound was happening because the belt was too tight or too loose.
I loosened it. Sound happens if belt it tight and rubs on the sides of the pulley. Generally the sound will be worse when wet. That also means you can get the sound with the right tension, but bad alignment
So, is the technical belt-tightness specification from the service manual "Be able to move the belt with your finger, but not a lot?" Funny. I don't remember that phrase. It must be my absolute domination of the English language stifling my interpretation of technical guides.
Heh, i assumed that most of the people googling this problem wouldn't have belt guages, and the belt run is too short to properly get a sound for something like the gates belt drive app.
@@nemistech5425 It's an issue. Luna referred me to your video so that I would understand what the proper belt tension is for my bike. Your description, though vague and abstract, is the sort of technical specification much earlier vehicles were built around. I'm not faulting you, I'm faulting Sur-ron corporate. I've read their service manual. It is NOT abject garbage. Some of the pages have pretty pictures, plus their address is in there, so that's useful, but nearly 97% of it is utterly useless, or worse. Some of it actively causes a form of brain damage as your neurons are forced to make connections they should never make, which decreases general and specific cognition. I still have nightmares from their picture trying to describe "runout" just so they can tell you it's "bad" if there's a lot of it.
@@TheBsavage Hi, i totally understand your frustration, and i felt it myself when trying to do this the first time. The reality of it is that there are no official specs, and the belt is too short to do proper tensioning on without special tools like tension gauges. My video assume that you don't have this kind of tools, and despite being kinda vague, it's accurate enough. Since the belt run is this short, it doesn't really matter if it's not 100% up to spec unless you've got a new controller/battery delivering much more power. There should be a bit of play, but not so much that you risk it jumping over teeth
@@nemistech5425 he's not frustrated - just insecure. There are more videos about surrons and belt tension and he talks in the same manner with the content creators. You may be to modest to do it but I'll call a douche when I see one.
Maybe u can help I tried inpiting the regent code to zero .but the light keeps blinking
I am sorry, i don't know, and i actually sold my Su-Ron earlier this year since i bought a Zero SR/F
it's supposed to sound worse after?
It doesn't sound worse. It's just that the chain noise is more noticeable when the belt is quiet (also the mic was moved a bit). I wish i did a recording of how the bike sounded after i did the belt conversion as well before i sold my sur ron. That sounded really quiet in comparison
@@nemistech5425 it sounds like its murdering a family after
Why is your chain moving so much ? Is that normal