Timestamps: 0:27 - Mistake 1 Spending too much time searching for sounds 1:52 - Mistake 2 Mixing over Leveling (during creation) 4:41 - Mistake 3 Out of Key 808s 7:15 - Mistake 4 Too many sounds at once 9:01 - Mistake 5 Terrible Sound Selection
Definitely have made a lot of these mistakes 😅, but mistake number 5 definitely is a tough one cause sometimes you don’t know if you can make a sound work or not, at least for me lol
You seriously don’t need melodyne to lay down an 808 pattern in key. If you’re having a hard time hearing it well when In normal pitch, put it together 1-2 octaves up and then transpose down.
Cakewalk by bandlab (which used to be Sonar and a competitive cost, paid DAW) is completely free now that bandlab bought it. Plus you get all the sounds and samples in bandlab to use, PLUS cakewalk comes with a light version of melodyne, it can't do everything, but it can still tune my vocals like they were laid down in a midi piano roll.
How do people struggle with out of key 808s? Like, just look at what the key of your track is and not use notes that aren’t in scale? Am I missing something?? Bro said not to use too many mixing plugins but uses melodyne to not make out of key 808s lmao
@@PreFusah that’s true but this melodyne trick doesn’t solve it either. I guess if you always just want to follow the bass notes of your chords with your 808s then that makes sense but then you’ll just keep making stale boring patterns every time
its alot of factors tbh. sometimes its the room, sometimes its the warped sample, sometimes its because your ears are shot & you cant recognize the notes because you made so much music & loud levels. i used melodyne to get the notes then disabled it. its just things i've experienced thru my years of making music, youll get there eventually.
@@IBEENART I get why you might have trouble recognizing the notes with all factors that you listed, and like I said if your goal is to just follow the sample melody or chords directly with 808 hits then it works, but I’d encourage people to actually hum or sing out the 808 pattern that comes to their mind and bangs, put it 2 octaves up to hear the notes clearly, put it on piano roll and transpose down and see if it works. Might not work 100% times but it will actually be a creative process and will make your 808s stand out when your pattern fits. Also trains your ear and makes you a better composer in the process - after some time you might even start a song with an 808 pattern that you came up with yourself and build a chord progression around it and not the other way round. Cheers!
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Timestamps:
0:27 - Mistake 1 Spending too much time searching for sounds
1:52 - Mistake 2 Mixing over Leveling (during creation)
4:41 - Mistake 3 Out of Key 808s
7:15 - Mistake 4 Too many sounds at once
9:01 - Mistake 5 Terrible Sound Selection
5:45 - that melodyne tip goes a long way!
Not to forget tuning the drum sounds themselves as well.
Yea, if your drums sound off, this can help, I just wouldn't go crazy trying to make sure everything drum sound is in tune
I appreciate your attitude, dialogue, and straightforward explanations. Many thanks
Thanks for the Sample Manager shoutout 😎
No problem 👍
Great tips. Ableton allows you to tune 808s as well. I use the Ableton tuner and the hornet plugin.
That last one was amazing! Great video. 🔥
4:41 Lol right. Even some commercial hip-hop have out-of-key 808s. I'm looking at you, Party Up.
Great info!
On point video
That second beat made me do a nasty face 😂 🔥
Definitely have made a lot of these mistakes 😅, but mistake number 5 definitely is a tough one cause sometimes you don’t know if you can make a sound work or not, at least for me lol
thanks for this. edison looks amazing but I use logic on a mac so I'm trying to find alternatives
damn that 808 sounds nice! can we find it on splice??
Are you using an Arturia midi keyboard? Can you record knob tweaks/automation with your v collection? I can't.
Some effective tips
Great video! I do not understand how people can’t hear off key 808s 🤣🤣🤣
Trash headphones or smartphone speakers
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Melodyne is included in the monthly subscription of Izotope
Xln, Atlas and cosmos are all Great tools
Waves just put out a sample manager like x0 for free as well
How do you deal with 808s that are not tuned to C? What’s a faster fix to that than just transposing to c by ear?
Get a tuner Plugin, or of you got FL you could try the Edison trick (you might need to bring the 808 and octave up)
@@SwiftDreamer I don’t use fl but is there any tuner plugins you can recommend
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Hi what version of melodyne do you need to find the bass notes
You seriously don’t need melodyne to lay down an 808 pattern in key. If you’re having a hard time hearing it well when In normal pitch, put it together 1-2 octaves up and then transpose down.
Cakewalk by bandlab (which used to be Sonar and a competitive cost, paid DAW) is completely free now that bandlab bought it. Plus you get all the sounds and samples in bandlab to use, PLUS cakewalk comes with a light version of melodyne, it can't do everything, but it can still tune my vocals like they were laid down in a midi piano roll.
Using Melodyne is not cheating, it’s just smart🤓
xo wares out your hard drive.
in key 808s is not right advice.
i have a question are the sounds and whatnot on Splice free?
No it’s membership based
@@sharifeady6834 so it's just like cymatics?
how are you going to teach ppl on sound selection. that is something ppl have to do on their own.
ppl with zero music background shouldn't teach.
How do people struggle with out of key 808s? Like, just look at what the key of your track is and not use notes that aren’t in scale? Am I missing something?? Bro said not to use too many mixing plugins but uses melodyne to not make out of key 808s lmao
Just cause the 808 playing in the scale doesn't necessarily mean it will sound good with the chord progression.
@@PreFusah that’s true but this melodyne trick doesn’t solve it either. I guess if you always just want to follow the bass notes of your chords with your 808s then that makes sense but then you’ll just keep making stale boring patterns every time
its alot of factors tbh. sometimes its the room, sometimes its the warped sample, sometimes its because your ears are shot & you cant recognize the notes because you made so much music & loud levels. i used melodyne to get the notes then disabled it. its just things i've experienced thru my years of making music, youll get there eventually.
@@IBEENART I get why you might have trouble recognizing the notes with all factors that you listed, and like I said if your goal is to just follow the sample melody or chords directly with 808 hits then it works, but I’d encourage people to actually hum or sing out the 808 pattern that comes to their mind and bangs, put it 2 octaves up to hear the notes clearly, put it on piano roll and transpose down and see if it works. Might not work 100% times but it will actually be a creative process and will make your 808s stand out when your pattern fits. Also trains your ear and makes you a better composer in the process - after some time you might even start a song with an 808 pattern that you came up with yourself and build a chord progression around it and not the other way round. Cheers!
Xo sucks. Be more efficient save you're money and time
XO is good.