Imagine just crying in fear sitting in a stationary jigsaw trap, thinking about what u did to deserve this and then u just see Jeff walking thru the door
If you were waiting for someone to save you and Jeff walked in you might as well resign yourself to upcoming death. He'd be so busy blaming people for his son dying they'd be half dead by the time he got round to saving them then actually die shortly after.
Kramer actually gave everyone a chance to escape if they were smart, but Amanda was a piece of shit who just wanted to kill people with the unsolvable puzzles.
@@Dashie_124 Actually, he was only suffocated for 36 seconds, meaning that with proper air reentering his body, he could have lived. Did you also check his legs? In the first movie his left leg is shackled, but in Saw 2 and 4 it's on the right leg. Ominous...
@@walkerphillips2818 impretty sure ot was a mistake, even if Adam survived that he would die either way because of blood loss from hitting the toilet and his wounded shoulder,also he has no food or water and I don't think u will last long without water so he would die a day or two after that, the only way he would survive is if Amanda changed her mind and saved him or he breaks his foot and escapes because John can't get him, neither can lawrence since he would have to get used to a prosthetic plus he doesn't know the way to the bathroom so it would have to be one of those two for him to live
@@eleanorcooke7136 And it doesn't take into account the fact that even if the subjects survive, they would be emotionally and/or physically scarred for life, you can't be certain that the ordeal you put them through would make them start appreciate life lmao
@@vincenzomarino9206 "you're here because you didn't appreciate life. good luck appreciating life after with massive PTSD, paranoia, and survivor's guilt!"
How to not get trapped: Don’t commit crimes Don’t be in a relationship Do your job perfectly Be nice Don’t smoke Don’t be depressed Don’t try to kill yourself Don’t live in America
So, Jigsaw chastises Slow-Ass Jeff for being "consumed by rage and vengeance" at the fact the drunk driver who killed his son got away scot-free? Jigsaw, the guy who imprisoned and tortured his doctor, insurance agency, guy who accidentally killed his unborn son, guy whose negligence caused the death of his nephew, and God knows how many more...
Jigsaw puts people in traps for being depressed and cutting themselves I’m not even joking, I think it was intentional by the writers for him to have such a ridiculous ideology.
Adam was the best character and I personally believe that Lawrence came and rescued him and replaced him with an eerily similar lookalike. It’s believable for this series.
We see his body 2 more times after the first movie. I’m saw 2 and final chapter (I believe) but why I think he’s still alive is based on points MatPat made on film theory. His LEFT LEG was in the shackle in the first movie. Yet when we see the corpse TWICE it’s on the right leg. This movie series does so well with continuity it’s literally my favorite horror movie story line. And I don’t see them getting this simple detail wrong twice. If we don’t see a character EXPLICITLY die in these movies. They ain’t dead 😂
I hate Amanda. At least the older Jigsaw made traps that could at least be got out of gruesomely. But Amanda literally just made traps that were impossible to escape. I liked Kerry and hate Amanda for killing her.
@@R3mus7 I don't think so, at least Jigsaw gives his victims a chance for victory, but Amanda's traps on the other hand were unwinnable, she deserved to be killed by Jeff, Hoffman's no better since he slaughtered an entire police force to get at one woman, the only ones who actually agreed with Jigsaw's philosophy were Dr Gordon and Logan
Not to mention how she made Adam's game impossible and killed Adam single handily. I swear I'm glad she was thrown in the needle pit in Saw II. Edit: If Amanda didn't die from the gunshot wound, then she might have died from some immune disease from being in contact with used needles, and thanks for the likes people! :)
Damian Prock "A chance for victory." He's guaranteed deaths since the OG Saw with Amanda's trap. Either Amanda died or the Stomach Key guy died. As far as I'm concerned thats not a chance for victory.
Shrek Swamp the thing is there will always be someone with a worse situation, worse depression, worse home life, etc but that doesn’t me your issues aren’t valid and need to be address depression is depression wether it be a force stopping you from leaving your bed or just a cloud darkening your day. No one should have that cloud because everyone deserves to be happy and shouldn’t need to put in extra effort and energy to achieve that. So that and that cloud only gets worse without help so try and find yourself a good doctor to help you, and if the whole ‘everyone deserves to be happy’ thing seems cheesy and doesn’t convince you it is their job to treat you so you wouldn’t be wasting their time
I think Jigsaw is supposed to be mentally unstable, which is why he's judging people and it doesn't always make sense to normal people, in his head it's justice. He has a god complex.
"You're probably one of those people who swallow antidepressants to hide the pain..." "I'm a surgeon. I see people die every day I go to work. Sometimes it's my fault. I should get a gold medal for still feeling anything at this point."
You literally just described me! Indecisive, Empathetic, Not liking gory things. I never want to be a Vet or a Doctor or a Nurse because I hate seeing things in pain.
Lily Chandler Shut up, stop trying to make yourself look like a psycho, obviously you are mentally stable and trying to act like you aren’t, if you weren’t mentally stable you most likely wouldn’t be showing it off in a comment section.
So *ahem* If you take the antidepressants and feel better about yourself, then you’ll be put in a trap. But if you DONT take the antidepressants and feel shitty and never do anything, YOULL BE PUT IN A TRAP FOR “NOT APPRECIATING LIFE” wtf
The same could be said about Troy in this film. Troy would have beaten it if it wasn't for the ring in his lower jaw that he could never break. The door being welded shut was just another insurance by Amanda to make sure that he wouldn't escape.
“He finally hits the switch to burn up all the toys, giving us that unrated ending of Toy Story 3. That, admit it, you were kind of interested in seeing.” Lmfao he’s not lying
Kramer: You’re the type of person who swallows antidepressants to hide the pain Me: You’re the type of person who sticks people in devices that can kill them then runs around saying you’re not a killer
For anyone confused like I was at the third death at the numbers, it’s a blue girl. Reason she is blue is because she froze to death I believe, James made a funny
jigsaw saying “ I didn’t kill them, the trap did” is like your little sibling opening your bedroom door, standing right outside, and then when you tell them to get out your room, they say “I’m not in your room”
@@leekyboy455 then who set the trap That's like stealing and then put it in a lost and found box and then picking it up as a lost and found box so you technically didn't steal it but you still did it's called lying by omissionit and yes it is punishable by law and it will land you in federal prison forever
@@leekyboy455 Bro he literally forces them into traps where they inevitably die if they fail. He's killing them. Unless you mean the sibling saying they aren't in their room cause technically they're right
If I can complain about this movie. Why is Jigsaw killing/kidnapping people that didn't hurt anyone, but just let a murderer go? He should be kidnapping criminals, murderers, and drugdealers, not random civilians just because they breathed air next to a murderer. What next? He kidnaps a janitor because he cleaned the floor a murderer stepped on?
@321Ian123 Intellect is intellect. They're smart enough to collect intel on who they're kidnapping, what they did, and even plan an entire death-trap surrounding their failings in life. Murderer or not, the logic isn't there. It doesn't correlate well with a person like that.
@@KnightofDark00180 It's called a god complex. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can still do those things as well, collect intel etc. The whole point is their logic and our logic are two different things.
Yowlife productions Jigsaw is about change through torture He kidnaps and tortured people who have committed sins and were not caught He doesn't torture t the murderer s because they were caught
The point of it was to show Jeff's emotional conflict. He is rightfully angry with these people for being responsible for his kid's death. I don't get how everyone just thinks he should forgive them right on the spot
Ya know going back and seeing Amanda just kinda stupidly throw Adam's key is such a small touch to show just how little she cares about the people's survival where as for the most part what John makes is usually survivable if you "have the will to live" where as everything with Amanda and the Huffmiester is all just deadly and killer-y or a straight up slasher in the case off Huffington later
When you're talking about the Classroom Trap, that was the whole point of the movie, Amanda made it impossible, thus making her a murderer, where as John "Jigsaw" Kramer always had a possible escape if the person was willing to fight for their life, it is what drove the stake between them and ultimately ended Amanda's life.
That's something I've noticed , small things allow us to tell who did which trap . The classroom trap was a hint , and at the end it shows why he had no escape , Amanda let's emotion control her , and won't let people win . It shows the contrast , Lynn ( think that's how it's spelt) won , and so John tells Amanda to free her , but Amanda doesn't . There's many contrasts in the traps , no matter how small
Bullshit, how was the flammable jelly trap from Saw 1 winnable? Like the dude pretended to be sick and then got put in a room naked, covered in broken glass, smeared in flammable jelly, and tasked with determining the combination to a safe out of hundreds of combinations all while he was poisoned.
I feel like Jeff has had some of the easiest games to play in the whole franchise. Like, your kids toys? That's it? Wasn't someone thrown into a literal pit of used syringes last movie?
L God Productions you are in the back seat of this movie you know because you aren’t the character itself jeff is written to be that way and it’s consistent throughout the whole entire movie yea we know the answers because we aren’t in the situation just like how something in real life seems easy but if you put yourself in their shoes with knowing that they aren’t stable it suddenly becomes understandable not logical but understandable
@@RJLiams You were the same person who said that Timothy deserved to be in that trap that slowly killed him in one of the most painful ways imaginable. Are YOU even human?
@@RJLiams didn't you say Timothy deserved to get his arms and stuff twisted around? I don't think you really can judge anyone else when it comes to whether someone is humane or not
"Okay, um, I won't take antidepressants." "You have chosen to allow your life to be overshadowed by sorrow, without fighting back. Now you will be overshadowed by..." "What if I go to therapy, but don't take antidepressants?" "Your fear of medication has prevented you from doing everything you can to stay alive. Now you must confront..." "You, uh, you're just doin' a murder, huh." "...cut out a bit of your brain or I'm gonna drop an MRI machine on you." Jigsaw's all about heads-I-win-tails-you-lose.
@@joesmith2959 If you're dense, yes, you wouldn't save him, but Jeff never learned to forgive and forget. Jeff thought the guy that killed his son was as psychotic as Jigsaw, but he was just a guy that had extreme guilt over his actions and Jeff took too long to make the right decision. In the end, we're all humans who made mistakes, you can't reverse death and avenging it does little to nothing.
My favorite thing about watching these kill counts is hearing James rip into Jigsaw's sanctimonious bullshit. Cramer's self-rightous attitude and insistance that he's innocent while literally everyone around him is a problem is something I just can't stand when watching these movies and it honestly gets me to skip major plot points on rewatches, but thankfully hearing James call it out for the nonsense it is makes it much more watchable. EDIT: The fact that James himself called it sanctimonious bullshit a couple of minutes after I wrote this just makes it all the better.
And that so many series fans act like Kramer is so deep and like "well actually, he doesn't technically kill anybody. He just kidnaps and forces them to play a grisly game under penalty of death that at best will maim them and require a lifetime of therapy, if it doesn't horribly kill them outright. Totally different from murder."
I felt the worst for Timothy because he’s just a kid, and you can tell from the flashbacks that he would be haunted for the rest of his life. He definitely should’ve done time for DD at best and manslaughter at worst, but he did NOT deserve to die-especially like that.
I wonder how jigsaw justifies his reasoning for the passive participants of his game. The ones that just sit there waiting to be killed, wonder how the games make them appreciate being alive
Jigsaws logic would be that, since it's not thier game they dont deserve to fight and are just forced to be passive and wait for Jeff to come and "free" them
It might be really, REALLY stupid of him, but I think that Kramer really expected for Jeff to save all of those people. Unfortunately for his "I don't condone murder" schtick, Jeff is too egotistical to let things go and ends up killing all three.
Remember kids: don’t do drugs, don’t have an SO, don’t do crime, don’t be depressed, don’t cut yourself, don’t get involved with court, don’t witness any crimes, etc etc...
Jigsaw doesn't care if you commit crimes or not. In the first movie, he killed a guy for self harming. He killed a woman for... not knowing her husband was a liar. He puts children in danger to get back at their parents. If you have any mental illness or even know a person who doesn't line up with his fucked up morals, you're fair game.
This is a small thing but I appreciate that you take the time to rerecord (or dub or whatever) the opening for each video so that you’re asking people to watch the film your actually doing, rather than using a generic “be sure you watch this film to support” As someone who works in development and donor cultivation it’s the little things that matter and stick with people and shows you care. Definitely gonna become a patron soon.
“You are the type of person who treats your serious mental health condition” Ok but like- jigsaw wouldn’t say that kinda thing if she was wearing a cast for a broken leg or putting eardrops in for an infection
Kramer was always an asshole about mental health. One of his first victims was a guy who attempted to unalive himself and Kramer was super pissed about it because outwardly he was perfectly healthy which I guess in his eyes is the only valid reason to do this.
Danica: brutally gets frozen solid whilst screaming and crying in pain Jeff: wElL YoU cOuLd AlSo HaVe HeLpEd ThE cOuRt To MaKe ThE dRiVeR hAVe MoRe PrIsOn TiMe
Slmfjeff is one of the most infuriating characters ive ever seen. *what the frick is saying "I forgive you" to a dead man you had every chance to save gonna do?*
Not to mention yelling at the victims of the traps--which would be fine *if they weren't in total agony like they've never experienced before and probably can't hear or make out what he's saying through their screams of terror and despair.* That kinda makes the "you suck speech" lose its edge, Jeff.
@@zs1175 They are, but that makes them all the more important to work through because of how dangerous they can be. To me, it seems like Jeff didn't make the effort to go through the grieving process properly, and instead he let the grief and rage consume him. Don't get me wrong, I can't even *begin* to imagine the pain of losing your child. A parent's love is special and sacred and something only they can really understand. But, even so, you have to keep going after you grieve properly. The world's not going to stop turning for you or for anyone. Now for a bit of a disclaimer: I haven't watched the Saw movies (I don't think I even could, not alone), what I know is from James' Kill Counts and some extra studying I did. So I could be completely wrong about it, and if I am I won't deny it. From what I understand, the movie takes place 3 years after the death of Jeff's son. *Three years,* and he still acts like the tragic event happened a week ago. It just... it looks to me that Jeff is, whether he realizes it or not, using his pain to lash out at others. Not just the trap victims, but everyone including his family. His *still-living daughter* whom he neglects and snaps at so he can continue to wallow into what has gradually turned from actual depression and mourning into self-pity. I know that sounds really harsh, especially since the grief will never really go away and this *is* a parent that's lost his own child, but holding onto the pain or worse, using it as an excuse to hurt others, is never, *ever* the right way to handle things. Yet Jeff's actions in the movie point to him doing just that. Again I could be totally wrong about this, and I'm sorry for the super-long reply. I tend to do that. A lot. I'm trying to get better at making shorter replies, even though the process has been... pretty slow so far. And it's late right now, so to heck with it. XD
Fun fact: when my dad took 7 year old me to see Santa Clause 3, the person who directs you to theaters sent us into the theater where Saw 3 was playing.
@@TimerdonDWI my dad nearly quickly covered my eyes and rushed me back to the ticket guy. The ticket guy was like "oh yeah, it seemed kinda weird that you were taking a little kid to a horror movie" then sent us to the Santa clause movie 😂
I was so confused at 17:45 when the second female victim was blue then I realised it wasn’t a mistake it was because she was frozen to death and now I love you even more 😂👍
Jigsaws reasons for torturing people are so weird? What’s next is he gonna say “I wanna play a game, one time you use “can” instead of “may”. Now get out of this trap.”
Film theory has done a video on why he thinks Adam survived and it’s REALLY interesting. and brings up a lot of good points. Unless we SEE a character die in these movies they’re most likely gonna come back later. And the chain was on the wrong foot in saw 2 and final chapter. Jigsaw says “put his left leg in the shackle” and the corpse has the shackle on the right foot. TWICE. This series does their HOMEWORK with continuity and I don’t see them messing up that simple of a detail.
9:37 The pig grinder trap has to be one of the most disgusting in the series, and that’s saying something because these movies are notorious for their gore! 🤮
For a second I didn't get why at the end there was blue woman symbol (picture?) Instead of it being consistently red..and then I saw the one with her head blown off and I realized....that one was the woman who froze to death
Fun fact: The film actually intended to have John, after all this, realize what his result of his legacy be, have a heel realization. To quote Bousman: "For the first time, we actually see him break down and cry. Imagine your entire life's work. You're on your deathbed. You know there's nothing else you can do an here's how you'll be remembered: as a killer, as a murderer. Not as someone who helped people. Not as someone who changed lives. Someone who took away lives. The one thing he didn't want to be and, as he's on his deathbed, he's realizing this." Maybe Lynn would actually get through to John since she probably reminds him of Jill (as he hallucinates his ex during the surgery.) Would've been an interesting scene for sure, and even kind of an emotional one.
Funny, for some times that's what I wanted to have for the films. Jigsaw realizing what he's doing and what he has done. It's just so important and interesting for the character, but sadly they decided to dive deeper in unnecassary blood and gore fest and a bit far-fetched plot. Really sad, it had potential.
@@yesno2697 True, but I think it's mainly what should've been done in general. I think the series has a great potential but past 3, it became more of a gore fest than something else. But yeah, I like Saw III even though it may not be the best, I see many people hating it badly
Hang on I’ve just realised, Jigsaw didn’t want Adam to die AT ALL! Think about it! He listened to the whole 8 hour conversation between him and Gordon and got a judgement of how kind hearted Adam actually was. For example, Adam did not want to show Lawrence the photo of his kidnapped wife and daughter as he didn’t want him to feel more upset! Jigsaw’s final words to Adam before the Game Over were.. “The key to that chain IS in the bathtub!” Key word (pun intended) ‘Is’. Jigsaw was still under the impression that they Key was still there not knowing at the time how haphazard Amanda was with the key! He probably expected Adam to do the same thing and be a survivor. Edit: Also take note that Jigsaw only says... “Most people are so ungrateful to be alive; but not you, not anymore!” to those who survive... Ergo, why he said it through Billy to Amanda (who surprise, surprise, survived!) Also to those on the Saw ride at Thorpe Park who survive!
As awful as jeff he is in my opinion the perfect character for this film. Hes a vengeful fundamentally awful person who is repetadly shown his cruelty personified by the saw traps. In a way jigsaw is showing him how vile his vengeance truly is.
Yeah I never thought his slowness was a plot slowness, I think it was on purpose because he hated the victims and didn't really want to save any of them.
@@Grassroots_Hegemon That doesn't explain his stupidity in never listening to anyone even after it caused 3 deaths and put his wife in a life threatening situation... Seriously he might as well be an Antagonist at this point.
Come now James. We all know Amanda didn't die, she was taken by the Entity! The first 3 Saw films were honestly one of the best horror trilogies ever created. One has to wonder what kind of legacy they would have left if they stopped the series here.
I was sooo confused 😆. I thought I was going crazy cause i swore this came out already thanks for the explanation though alot of people ive seen do reuploads like this dont explain
Detective Matthews was my favorite character in Saw. Can't describe my wrath and dissatisfaction about his vicious death after he had come so close to his escape
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great job man huge fan
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Dead Meat love the kill count
Dead Meat aw man
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Imagine just crying in fear sitting in a stationary jigsaw trap, thinking about what u did to deserve this and then u just see Jeff walking thru the door
If you were waiting for someone to save you and Jeff walked in you might as well resign yourself to upcoming death. He'd be so busy blaming people for his son dying they'd be half dead by the time he got round to saving them then actually die shortly after.
Me: has a gun and has a choice Jeff: comes in Me: *shoots at my hed*
just say last words
At least it's not Bobby Dagan who would definitely fuck it up
I would kill myself before he could
Jigsaw’s idea of “not killing people” is like a kid putting their finger right in your face, saying “I’m not touching you”
LuckyHorseshoe 4 except the kid is right
I would like but it’s as 69
"im not touching you, im one angstrom away"
Kramer actually gave everyone a chance to escape if they were smart, but Amanda was a piece of shit who just wanted to kill people with the unsolvable puzzles.
Spartan Revenant that doesnt turn him into a good person. He is still a crazy satistic killer
literally everyone could have been saved with relative ease, if Jeff wasn’t slower then a stationary object
This dude is slower then my internet on Xbox live.
He hesitated because those people have caused him more problems after his Son’s death... I wouldn’t blame him.
Plus he is resembling a real person, he was stressed, scared, and confused obviously he wouldn’t be able to just be calm about it
@@Inzanity_Play_Houze
Yeah you got a point
Jeff is slower than my phone, it took me years to load roblox
I’m so mad that they killed Adam. Man’s went through so much just to die from a plastic bag
EXACTLY
@@Dashie_124 Actually, he was only suffocated for 36 seconds, meaning that with proper air reentering his body, he could have lived. Did you also check his legs? In the first movie his left leg is shackled, but in Saw 2 and 4 it's on the right leg.
Ominous...
@@walkerphillips2818 impretty sure ot was a mistake, even if Adam survived that he would die either way because of blood loss from hitting the toilet and his wounded shoulder,also he has no food or water and I don't think u will last long without water so he would die a day or two after that, the only way he would survive is if Amanda changed her mind and saved him or he breaks his foot and escapes because John can't get him, neither can lawrence since he would have to get used to a prosthetic plus he doesn't know the way to the bathroom so it would have to be one of those two for him to live
Well dying of starvation and thirst for days is far worse than a paper bag
@@destinyatitsfinest4630i mean john could have easily sent hoffman to go retrieve him and take him to gordon to be nursed to health but its unlikely
Jeff really got the easiest trap plot ever and still blew it
Honestly yes. I mean c’mon dude.
@Jacob Pleggenkuhle fair enough. The toughest thing rigg had to do was fight the woman with the knife. Rigg's is kinda weird tho
@Jacob Pleggenkuhle yeah his was so inverse. He was in no danger and he was "saving" horrible people
He survived though so who cares he lived
@@projectbpn Riggs died, he bled out to death
Someone: I miss my son...
John Kramer: *So you have chosen death.*
You forget that Jeff neglected his daughter after his son died because all Jeff could think about was revenge so hes in the trap for neglect
Me: I have mike depression, but I’m not suicidal.
Jigsaw: does it look like I care?
Artjom Kolesnikov I read that comment in his voice lmao
Man I’m feeling down
Jigsaw: SO YOU HAVE CHOSEN DEATH
@@mightygamer242 yeah! Like, what a hitler, right? 100% tottally deserved
Saw II : "not everything I say is a hint guys"
Saw III : "wouldn't it be funny if he ended up being the main character"
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I like how graphic this movie is that it had to be censored
(Ex the rib breaker, last death of movie)
Omg lol i saw this comment while hearing that
@@megamichael4021 ikr
He said not everything he didn’t say nothing I say is a hint
I love how much James hates Jigsaw’s entitled, pompous, fake philosophizing.
It's like Jigsaw doesn't realise that even if he gave them a chance to live, it's at it's best, torture and at it's worst, 1st degree murder.
@@eleanorcooke7136 And it doesn't take into account the fact that even if the subjects survive, they would be emotionally and/or physically scarred for life, you can't be certain that the ordeal you put them through would make them start appreciate life lmao
@@vincenzomarino9206 "you're here because you didn't appreciate life. good luck appreciating life after with massive PTSD, paranoia, and survivor's guilt!"
@@pat2rome lmao
i acc wrote a paper abt jigsaw’s ethics for philosophy class, and i ended it by fixing this methods
How to not get trapped:
Don’t commit crimes
Don’t be in a relationship
Do your job perfectly
Be nice
Don’t smoke
Don’t be depressed
Don’t try to kill yourself
Don’t live in America
Don’t relate to anybody who has commit any sin and don’t do your job too well.
Also, don't be a police officer ..... or be related to a police officer ......... or be a lawyer ..... jesus 😅, I think just don't live in "saw" city
Oh thank lord i live in canada
Coming Summer 2022!
Saw: EUROPEAN VACATION!
Don't Exist, as that is also probably a crime in John Cramers eyes.
"Doctor, please! My foot is ripped off!"
"Nurse, get him a title card!"
pffft lol
A pack of ice will help too!
@@robertosergiodealmeida8412 naaaa you dont need that
@@rabbitgutz6556 just a cube is enough?
@@robertosergiodealmeida8412 the nurse let out fiiiiiin here *gives a ice cube*
So, Jigsaw chastises Slow-Ass Jeff for being "consumed by rage and vengeance" at the fact the drunk driver who killed his son got away scot-free? Jigsaw, the guy who imprisoned and tortured his doctor, insurance agency, guy who accidentally killed his unborn son, guy whose negligence caused the death of his nephew, and God knows how many more...
He always gave them a chance to survive though they just die because they couldn’t hack it. Dr Gordon is legit the only person he saved though
Dont for get Tabb and Sing as detective's.
@@Jojo1996-_- It's Tapp.
Jigsaw puts people in traps for being depressed and cutting themselves I’m not even joking, I think it was intentional by the writers for him to have such a ridiculous ideology.
@@ethansolorzano5989 No.
Did we see Adam's body in Saw 2? Yes. Did we see Amanda suffocate him in Saw 3? Yes. Am I living in denial about both of those events? Yes.
literally same
Adam was the best character and I personally believe that Lawrence came and rescued him and replaced him with an eerily similar lookalike. It’s believable for this series.
@@Robbity yes
We see his body 2 more times after the first movie. I’m saw 2 and final chapter (I believe) but why I think he’s still alive is based on points MatPat made on film theory. His LEFT LEG was in the shackle in the first movie. Yet when we see the corpse TWICE it’s on the right leg. This movie series does so well with continuity it’s literally my favorite horror movie story line. And I don’t see them getting this simple detail wrong twice. If we don’t see a character EXPLICITLY die in these movies. They ain’t dead 😂
You see it at the end of saw 1
I hate Amanda. At least the older Jigsaw made traps that could at least be got out of gruesomely. But Amanda literally just made traps that were impossible to escape. I liked Kerry and hate Amanda for killing her.
@@R3mus7 I don't think so, at least Jigsaw gives his victims a chance for victory, but Amanda's traps on the other hand were unwinnable, she deserved to be killed by Jeff, Hoffman's no better since he slaughtered an entire police force to get at one woman, the only ones who actually agreed with Jigsaw's philosophy were Dr Gordon and Logan
@@R3mus7 ok, I guess
Not to mention how she made Adam's game impossible and killed Adam single handily. I swear I'm glad she was thrown in the needle pit in Saw II.
Edit: If Amanda didn't die from the gunshot wound, then she might have died from some immune disease from being in contact with used needles, and thanks for the likes people! :)
@@Claimthe_fame exactly, even the fact that Jeff killed her
Damian Prock
"A chance for victory." He's guaranteed deaths since the OG Saw with Amanda's trap. Either Amanda died or the Stomach Key guy died. As far as I'm concerned thats not a chance for victory.
“Swallows anti depressants to hide the pain”
Boi I don’t have enough serotonin in my brain jeez
i like how he says you gotta have survival instinct but she's doing something to keep living and be happy and he's like mhm no bitch
Shrek Swamp bro please see a doctor, about 1 in 5 people go through what you are feeling.
Shrek Swamp you don’t have to downplay your own depression.
Shrek Swamp the thing is there will always be someone with a worse situation, worse depression, worse home life, etc but that doesn’t me your issues aren’t valid and need to be address depression is depression wether it be a force stopping you from leaving your bed or just a cloud darkening your day. No one should have that cloud because everyone deserves to be happy and shouldn’t need to put in extra effort and energy to achieve that. So that and that cloud only gets worse without help so try and find yourself a good doctor to help you,
and if the whole ‘everyone deserves to be happy’ thing seems cheesy and doesn’t convince you it is their job to treat you so you wouldn’t be wasting their time
I think Jigsaw is supposed to be mentally unstable, which is why he's judging people and it doesn't always make sense to normal people, in his head it's justice. He has a god complex.
"You're probably one of those people who swallow antidepressants to hide the pain..."
"I'm a surgeon. I see people die
every day I go to work. Sometimes it's my fault. I should get a gold medal for still feeling anything at this point."
Munstruss _XL I want to be a surgeon but I don’t sympathize with people like if we aren’t best friends I don’t care. I’m clearly not mentally stable
@@lilylilyfofilly you might just be slightly more cold blooded or more tolerant when it comes to death
You literally just described me!
Indecisive, Empathetic, Not liking gory things. I never want to be a Vet or a Doctor or a Nurse because I hate seeing things in pain.
Lily Chandler Shut up, stop trying to make yourself look like a psycho, obviously you are mentally stable and trying to act like you aren’t, if you weren’t mentally stable you most likely wouldn’t be showing it off in a comment section.
So *ahem* If you take the antidepressants and feel better about yourself, then you’ll be put in a trap. But if you DONT take the antidepressants and feel shitty and never do anything, YOULL BE PUT IN A TRAP FOR “NOT APPRECIATING LIFE” wtf
Jeff is what contributed to the movie's runtime. If he just that little bit faster the movie would barely be an hour long. Thanks Jeff.
I’ve become really invested in that little “drop that puppet” segment.
Me too.!! Drop that puppet is amazing on its own but it’s complete with this series
9:09
@@xoticplayz242 i have a fetish for billy, im officially a saw simp😔💅
@@witchexia lmao
@@xoticplayz242 thats true honey, i shit out my happiness when i see billy
me: I'm fine with gore! i don't get disturbed!
Amanda: **gets thrown into a pit of needles**
me: **gags**
Who cares about Amanda
@@IHeartYuga me
@@IHeartYuga where's Matthew
@@mrmyleague2832 I don't know 🌺
I love Amanda
Poor Kerry, she legit beat it but she died
What more could you expect from a trap designed by Amanda Young?
*meanwhile the ancient ones of the jigsaw fandom have a civilized meeting on what the angel trap would be like w/ amanda's ver.*
@@unknown.5372 yeah, weird
The same could be said about Troy in this film. Troy would have beaten it if it wasn't for the ring in his lower jaw that he could never break. The door being welded shut was just another insurance by Amanda to make sure that he wouldn't escape.
@@BjornV1994 exactly, at least Jigsaw gave his victims a chance
“He finally hits the switch to burn up all the toys, giving us that unrated ending of Toy Story 3. That, admit it, you were kind of interested in seeing.” Lmfao he’s not lying
Watching Toy Story 3 I wanted Woody to throw Lotso into the furnace.
That would've destroyed my soul
Imagine the riot from angry parents at the ticket booth. It would be like the bank riot from It's A Wonderful Life.
yeah and there were no 3 tiny aliens with a claw machine to save them this time
Kramer: You’re the type of person who swallows antidepressants to hide the pain
Me: You’re the type of person who sticks people in devices that can kill them then runs around saying you’re not a killer
teChnicAlly tHey hAve a ChancE aT fReeDom
Lmao GAme OvEr
i’M nOt a MuRdErEr tHeY KiLlEd tHeMsElVeS
John Kramer: "You nearly died 50 times in one day."
Me: "That's a regular day tho?"
I nEvEr KiLLeD aNyOne. I DeSpIsE MuRDeRerS
Jigsaw killed by a saw. Ironic.
I think that it was intentional
@@TheFabulousPotato1 ya probably
I think it's more redundant than ironic once you think about it
YEET
@@luciekopernicka9999 what's that supposed to mean?
For anyone confused like I was at the third death at the numbers, it’s a blue girl. Reason she is blue is because she froze to death I believe, James made a funny
Don't forget that Lynn doesn't have a head. It got blown off.
Thank you, I was so confused by that. Take care.
Oh I thought it was for the police detective, since they’re called “boys in blue” (Kerry in this case) 🤔
Honestly his funniest joke imo
Oh I thought bc she was a policewoman and the police are often represented with blue
jigsaw saying
“ I didn’t kill them, the trap did”
is like your little sibling opening your bedroom door, standing right outside, and then when you tell them to get out your room, they say
“I’m not in your room”
I mean he's isn't
@@leekyboy455 then who set the trap That's like stealing and then put it in a lost and found box and then picking it up as a lost and found box so you technically didn't steal it but you still did it's called lying by omissionit and yes it is punishable by law and it will land you in federal prison forever
@@goose_president5504 well.... you still stole from the lost and found box. That's just theft.
@@leekyboy455 Bro he literally forces them into traps where they inevitably die if they fail. He's killing them.
Unless you mean the sibling saying they aren't in their room cause technically they're right
@@llamaniaman4002they are talking about the comment being a bad analogy because the sibling literally isn’t in your room
If I can complain about this movie.
Why is Jigsaw killing/kidnapping people that didn't hurt anyone, but just let a murderer go?
He should be kidnapping criminals, murderers, and drugdealers, not random civilians just because they breathed air next to a murderer.
What next? He kidnaps a janitor because he cleaned the floor a murderer stepped on?
@321Ian123 Intellect is intellect.
They're smart enough to collect intel on who they're kidnapping, what they did, and even plan an entire death-trap surrounding their failings in life.
Murderer or not, the logic isn't there. It doesn't correlate well with a person like that.
YowLife Productions he gives them a chance to kill the murderer because they effected their life
@@KnightofDark00180 It's called a god complex. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can still do those things as well, collect intel etc. The whole point is their logic and our logic are two different things.
Yowlife productions
Jigsaw is about change through torture
He kidnaps and tortured people who have committed sins and were not caught
He doesn't torture t the murderer s because they were caught
YowLife Productions different jigsaw i think
14 years later and I still can't believe that SAMF Jeff killed both Kramer AND Amanda
and was immediately killed like a dumbass threatening an armed man with an unloaded gun
And his wife by killing Kramer which activated the collar
Man did what a whole police force never managed to do
Good riddance to garbage characters 🤣
@@PallysCafeyou’re kidding right? Just so happens the first three Saw were the most successful Saw movies! Can thank John and Amanda for that.
All of Slowassmothafuckajeff's challenges seem to be insanely easy, it feels like it wasn't even a Jigsaw crime.
Tandrarine one was to literally burn inanimate objects
These traps were meant to be more emotionally torturous than physically for Jeff
Lee Anderson yup
But they weren't easy for Jeff.
The point of it was to show Jeff's emotional conflict. He is rightfully angry with these people for being responsible for his kid's death. I don't get how everyone just thinks he should forgive them right on the spot
Ya know going back and seeing Amanda just kinda stupidly throw Adam's key is such a small touch to show just how little she cares about the people's survival where as for the most part what John makes is usually survivable if you "have the will to live" where as everything with Amanda and the Huffmiester is all just deadly and killer-y or a straight up slasher in the case off Huffington later
You mean the myth, the legend, The Hoffmanator?
When you're talking about the Classroom Trap, that was the whole point of the movie, Amanda made it impossible, thus making her a murderer, where as John "Jigsaw" Kramer always had a possible escape if the person was willing to fight for their life, it is what drove the stake between them and ultimately ended Amanda's life.
That's something I've noticed , small things allow us to tell who did which trap . The classroom trap was a hint , and at the end it shows why he had no escape , Amanda let's emotion control her , and won't let people win . It shows the contrast , Lynn ( think that's how it's spelt) won , and so John tells Amanda to free her , but Amanda doesn't . There's many contrasts in the traps , no matter how small
Kramer was a murderer too
@@vinnicinhus44 yeah but people say he isnt
true.
Bullshit, how was the flammable jelly trap from Saw 1 winnable? Like the dude pretended to be sick and then got put in a room naked, covered in broken glass, smeared in flammable jelly, and tasked with determining the combination to a safe out of hundreds of combinations all while he was poisoned.
I love how _that_ is now permanently named "the shit room"
Blue star me too
Lmao ikr
Hahaha
I feel bad for Timothy Young.... him crying just made me feel like he didn’t deserve that...
Ya Jigsaw even told us that Timothy felt really bad for the accident
Ya Jigsaw told us that Timothy felt bad for accidentaly killing the kid
Gal4xy Cat sometimes it glitches like that
Pretty sure no one deserves something like gahg
Thaly Waly2009 same Timothy shouldn’t have died
“Slow Ass Motherfucking Jeff” is one of the funniest and accurate nicknames ever
everybody: watches the actual movie
me: *watches kill count and claims that i watched the movie*
Edit: holy s**t thanks for the likes
John Doe ME
Me because I'm to scared to watch the movie lol
Same
me
Me in a nutshell
I feel like Jeff has had some of the easiest games to play in the whole franchise. Like, your kids toys? That's it? Wasn't someone thrown into a literal pit of used syringes last movie?
@Atomic Elbow I'd rather burn my stuff or families stuff rather then the needles
L God Productions you are in the back seat of this movie you know because you aren’t the character itself jeff is written to be that way and it’s consistent throughout the whole entire movie yea we know the answers because we aren’t in the situation just like how something in real life seems easy but if you put yourself in their shoes with knowing that they aren’t stable it suddenly becomes understandable not logical but understandable
His dead child's toys. Probably the last physical reminder of his child.
Are you even fucking human?
@@RJLiams You were the same person who said that Timothy deserved to be in that trap that slowly killed him in one of the most painful ways imaginable. Are YOU even human?
@@RJLiams didn't you say Timothy deserved to get his arms and stuff twisted around? I don't think you really can judge anyone else when it comes to whether someone is humane or not
The rib cage ripping part made me feel like that was my rib
VolexGamer mine still feels weird after 10 minutes.
Sammee
Same.
OUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Gory REALY Gory
Someone: *Steals a pack of Yu-gi-oh cards*
Jigsaw: So you have chosen... death.
Someone online: **scalps PS5s and Xboxs to sell at higher prices**
Jigsaw: To save your life you must cut the key out of your own scalp.
SOMEONE skip the line
JOHN it’s trappen time
Cashier "Sorry sir, its cash only at the self scan"
John "I'm going to test that woman later...."
Someone talking to therapist: "so yeah... i don't feel like living anymore..."
Jigsaw eavesdropping from behind the door: "time to trap!"
Me: takes antidepressants so I don't die
Jigsaw: so you've chosen death
Me: wait no-
"Okay, um, I won't take antidepressants."
"You have chosen to allow your life to be overshadowed by sorrow, without fighting back. Now you will be overshadowed by..."
"What if I go to therapy, but don't take antidepressants?"
"Your fear of medication has prevented you from doing everything you can to stay alive. Now you must confront..."
"You, uh, you're just doin' a murder, huh."
"...cut out a bit of your brain or I'm gonna drop an MRI machine on you."
Jigsaw's all about heads-I-win-tails-you-lose.
Me looking at my anti-anxiety meds: Oh shit
Me looking at my pills I use because of stomach problems : oh come on man what does a girl gotta do to stay alive??
jeff could of saved a life but he was like nah im gonna chill here for 5 minutes and then try to rescue you TWICE
Ester isn't cool
Would you try to save a man who killed your son? Didn’t think so
@@joesmith2959 If you're dense, yes, you wouldn't save him, but Jeff never learned to forgive and forget. Jeff thought the guy that killed his son was as psychotic as Jigsaw, but he was just a guy that had extreme guilt over his actions and Jeff took too long to make the right decision.
In the end, we're all humans who made mistakes, you can't reverse death and avenging it does little to nothing.
motodog242 facts
it’s was on accident so I would
I would save them cuz it was on ACCIDENT
I never understood how John, who looks like he’s in his 70s , married that chick.
Lyn was married to Jeff not John.
@@angusmeldrum9198 he’s talking about Jigsaw’s wife, Jill Tuck.
@@adhirg Ok, sry
Hey now Tobin Bell rocks!
Jola Otts I agree! But if he were the character in this movie, he’d be lonely lol.
"All you have to do is push that button and it will stop the blades!"
Jeff: "My name is Jeff!"
I love how
*slow ass jeff*
Is the thumbnail
SAMF Jeff does not deserve a thumbnail cause he's so slow
*samf
*_How slow can you go_*
*We might wanna ask Jeff that*
He let everyone die
Well it will take Jeff the whole movie time to give you an answer.
Too slow!
t h a t s t h e j o k e
He won't be able to respond because he's gona be a slow talker
Normal movie + slowass motherfkg jeff = longest saw movie
SAMF Jeff
My favorite thing about watching these kill counts is hearing James rip into Jigsaw's sanctimonious bullshit. Cramer's self-rightous attitude and insistance that he's innocent while literally everyone around him is a problem is something I just can't stand when watching these movies and it honestly gets me to skip major plot points on rewatches, but thankfully hearing James call it out for the nonsense it is makes it much more watchable.
EDIT: The fact that James himself called it sanctimonious bullshit a couple of minutes after I wrote this just makes it all the better.
true
And that so many series fans act like Kramer is so deep and like "well actually, he doesn't technically kill anybody. He just kidnaps and forces them to play a grisly game under penalty of death that at best will maim them and require a lifetime of therapy, if it doesn't horribly kill them outright. Totally different from murder."
At first I thought Jeff was undeserving but then I realised he was so, so deserving. Nearly let someone DROWN IN PIG CORPSES?!
And did let someone freeze to death and someone else have their head twisted all the way around breaking their neck.
Oh boo hoo I have to throw away a toy that you are never even gonna see again regardless
He also became a shitty father to his own daughter
Grief is harsh and painful, but doesn't justify His actions and choices
I felt the worst for Timothy because he’s just a kid, and you can tell from the flashbacks that he would be haunted for the rest of his life. He definitely should’ve done time for DD at best and manslaughter at worst, but he did NOT deserve to die-especially like that.
@@fizzycolapop362 Seriously. I felt so bad for him.
I wonder how jigsaw justifies his reasoning for the passive participants of his game. The ones that just sit there waiting to be killed, wonder how the games make them appreciate being alive
Jigsaws logic would be that, since it's not thier game they dont deserve to fight and are just forced to be passive and wait for Jeff to come and "free" them
It might be really, REALLY stupid of him, but I think that Kramer really expected for Jeff to save all of those people. Unfortunately for his "I don't condone murder" schtick, Jeff is too egotistical to let things go and ends up killing all three.
Wait, he focused on Carrie being too good at her job and not the fact that she slept with a married man.
Nooo!😅
Yeah, weird
That’s what I thought!!!
@@xxjestertheclownxx yeah, talk about messed up, I think this might've been a setup by Amanda Young
It was amanda
"You didn't pay your speeding ticket soon enough, Amanda, so it's beartrap for you. Soon you will be grateful for the roads America has given you."
Remember kids: don’t do drugs, don’t have an SO, don’t do crime, don’t be depressed, don’t cut yourself, don’t get involved with court, don’t witness any crimes, etc etc...
don’t skip work
*remembers I have a SO* 😀👍
Ok soo
✔️
✔️
❓
❌
❓
✔️
❌
Fuck I’m gonna die
Don’t be born to this world
17:46 At first I thought you made a mistake with one of the females being blue....
Very clever lol
I dont get it
@@mariajimenez7030 cause one of the ladies were frozen and looked blue.
@@myelim ohhhhhh thx
myelim Oooooooooh, okay.
you mean 7:46 i think?
How to avoid all of this
Be single
Don't do crime
IDK man, I think Jigsaw would figure out some bullshit of how you "dOn'T aPPrECiATe liFE EnOUgh" and murder you regardless.
How to avoid all of this: *dont be born*
Also don't be depressed
How to avoid this, just be good but not too good
Jigsaw doesn't care if you commit crimes or not. In the first movie, he killed a guy for self harming. He killed a woman for... not knowing her husband was a liar. He puts children in danger to get back at their parents. If you have any mental illness or even know a person who doesn't line up with his fucked up morals, you're fair game.
Damn, Timothy Young’s kill was probably the most horrific. In fact, one could even say...
*It was the most twisted.*
ba dum tss
*giggles*
*puts on shades* YEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
Bad timing bro😭
Doubt anyone will get the reference but..
"HAI, ARUTO JA NAITO!!"
The host is my favorite. When he called Jeff "slow ass Jeff "
YEAH Jeff is my favorite because he is SAMFJ slow ass moth oh you know where I'm going but yeah I like Jeff for 2 reasons 1 SAMFJ and he is awsome
His name is James
@@bluewink1646 no it's Jeff not james go put on some captions and go watch the video again and it says Jeff.
@@theassassin7887 idk if this is a troll but if it isnt: he was talking about the host Janes, not the fucking character
SAMF Jeff hell yeah
Saw 1000: Dude, you didn't drink the water on the table when your friend handed it! Here's a bomb.
At this point,they gonna get you just for walking now
James: imagine if Hoffman became a main character or something?
Me who has seen all the saw movies:
*FUK FUK FUK FUK*
Me too 😂😂😂
Then Hoffman becomes main character
You: FUUUUUUUUUK
lol me too
He knew, he was making a joke
Have you ever heard of *sargassum*
"Slow ass muthafuckin Jeff" is my favorite character in kill count history 😂😂😂😂
Mine too! I love how frustrated James gets with him.
Jeff is living in .25x speed
Lol!!
Wow
Also jeff: So like, do you want me to save you or.....................
3 weeks later: aw man she died
YES JEFF KILLED THREE PEOPLE
john kramer was such a mood when lynn and amanda were fighting LOL
“Wish I had some popcorn”
This is a small thing but I appreciate that you take the time to rerecord (or dub or whatever) the opening for each video so that you’re asking people to watch the film your actually doing, rather than using a generic “be sure you watch this film to support”
As someone who works in development and donor cultivation it’s the little things that matter and stick with people and shows you care. Definitely gonna become a patron soon.
I thought he did this to not get claimed...
Roman Abdolus probably, but it’s still nice of him
Bryant Edw
Bryant Edwards the little things always make It better
Bryant Edwards so true
“You are the type of person who treats your serious mental health condition”
Ok but like- jigsaw wouldn’t say that kinda thing if she was wearing a cast for a broken leg or putting eardrops in for an infection
yeah his reasoning is so fucked up
Kramer was always an asshole about mental health. One of his first victims was a guy who attempted to unalive himself and Kramer was super pissed about it because outwardly he was perfectly healthy which I guess in his eyes is the only valid reason to do this.
At first I was questioning why one of the females were blue but then I remembered that woman froze to death
Good job. As you can see everybody is attempting to find people who misunderstood the joke.
👍
Ah, I couldn't figure it out. Maybe if it was a lighter, ice-blue I would have caught on quicker...
She's one of those creatures from James Cameron's avatar
2:00 "On the screen is Professor Puppet. Billy to his friends."
That part killed me, pun not intended XD.
As much as I don't like Jeff, the scene where he has to burn his son's toys actually made me really sad and feel for him
I would, if it wasn't for that he neglects his alive child, if it was their stuff, he wouldn't give a shite.
Same! That would be hard to do for sure. I miss that kind of writing in the Saw series.
@@Millacks Is his daughter alive.
If she is not alive it's gonna be so sad.
The poor girl
George Tanov he never said that his daughter was dead
George Tanov in Saw V Hoffman saves her.
Fun fact:
The map for jigsaw in dead by daylight is in this movie. It’s where Jeff runs through. That part. I just think that’s neat.
I was going to say something about one of the female figures being blue until I realized it's because Danica froze to death. Clever.
I just love how James isn't taking any of jigsaw's shit. I would kill to have him talk to him in the film and be all real with him.
Kill count for Finding Nemo
7 Billion deaths.
XDDD
sparsed no Death only capture
Nah its way to violent :)
*sigh*
Danica: brutally gets frozen solid whilst screaming and crying in pain
Jeff: wElL YoU cOuLd AlSo HaVe HeLpEd ThE cOuRt To MaKe ThE dRiVeR hAVe MoRe PrIsOn TiMe
Slmfjeff is one of the most infuriating characters ive ever seen. *what the frick is saying "I forgive you" to a dead man you had every chance to save gonna do?*
somerandomk9 you mean samfjeff
Not to mention yelling at the victims of the traps--which would be fine *if they weren't in total agony like they've never experienced before and probably can't hear or make out what he's saying through their screams of terror and despair.*
That kinda makes the "you suck speech" lose its edge, Jeff.
I loved amanda even tho she was a complete bitch
@@GoldLeafGardenia Grief and the thirst for revenge are powerful things.
@@zs1175 They are, but that makes them all the more important to work through because of how dangerous they can be. To me, it seems like Jeff didn't make the effort to go through the grieving process properly, and instead he let the grief and rage consume him.
Don't get me wrong, I can't even *begin* to imagine the pain of losing your child. A parent's love is special and sacred and something only they can really understand. But, even so, you have to keep going after you grieve properly. The world's not going to stop turning for you or for anyone.
Now for a bit of a disclaimer: I haven't watched the Saw movies (I don't think I even could, not alone), what I know is from James' Kill Counts and some extra studying I did. So I could be completely wrong about it, and if I am I won't deny it.
From what I understand, the movie takes place 3 years after the death of Jeff's son. *Three years,* and he still acts like the tragic event happened a week ago. It just... it looks to me that Jeff is, whether he realizes it or not, using his pain to lash out at others. Not just the trap victims, but everyone including his family. His *still-living daughter* whom he neglects and snaps at so he can continue to wallow into what has gradually turned from actual depression and mourning into self-pity.
I know that sounds really harsh, especially since the grief will never really go away and this *is* a parent that's lost his own child, but holding onto the pain or worse, using it as an excuse to hurt others, is never, *ever* the right way to handle things. Yet Jeff's actions in the movie point to him doing just that.
Again I could be totally wrong about this, and I'm sorry for the super-long reply. I tend to do that. A lot. I'm trying to get better at making shorter replies, even though the process has been... pretty slow so far. And it's late right now, so to heck with it. XD
Aw man! That's the second right foot you've lost!
You got noticed
@@Emeowy I know right???
He’s gonna need to regrow I whole nother one you know how long it take to regrow a foot?!
@@random_boi_5006 ikr, i hate when I have to regrow my right foot, it falls off too much
How the heck did you get hearted?!
I love how one of the woman icons were blue because of her death
Ice ice baby
Vanilla.
I literally was like….. why is there a blue woman?!?? Oh wait!!! James is so witty
@Lightning Moon Games I understand, but I think it should’ve been a different shade of blue than the one he uses for males lol
want to see theversion without blue tint
Fun fact: when my dad took 7 year old me to see Santa Clause 3, the person who directs you to theaters sent us into the theater where Saw 3 was playing.
We walked in when the Troy death scene was going on (which is kinda funny because that's my fiance's name)
@@kennytheghostbuster9582 How'd you guys react, if I may ask?
@@TimerdonDWI my dad nearly quickly covered my eyes and rushed me back to the ticket guy.
The ticket guy was like "oh yeah, it seemed kinda weird that you were taking a little kid to a horror movie" then sent us to the Santa clause movie 😂
@@kennytheghostbuster9582Merry Christmas!!
I would have stayed in saw if I was you tbh
I have a feeling Jeff was the last one to finish timed tests
He still uses internet explorer.
@@quedeck5223 Man still uses dial up. Internet Explorer was too fast.
I was so confused at 17:45 when the second female victim was blue then I realised it wasn’t a mistake it was because she was frozen to death and now I love you even more 😂👍
Stevie Dicks x
Stevie Dicks I came down here wondering that so thanks for the answer.
You have answered my question
Oh yeah 😅
HOLY FUCK, THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP
Jigsaws reasons for torturing people are so weird? What’s next is he gonna say “I wanna play a game, one time you use “can” instead of “may”. Now get out of this trap.”
Actually he only does this to people that have been through his life, and did something wrong, now they are paying
HashtagArtastic I don’t know, can you?
HashtagArtastic lol
Or what if
“I want to play a game you’re here because while writing your book you used your instead of You’re now try to survive”
" You sold PPI to me I'm not even gonna tell you how to get out
Film theory has done a video on why he thinks Adam survived and it’s REALLY interesting. and brings up a lot of good points. Unless we SEE a character die in these movies they’re most likely gonna come back later. And the chain was on the wrong foot in saw 2 and final chapter. Jigsaw says “put his left leg in the shackle” and the corpse has the shackle on the right foot. TWICE. This series does their HOMEWORK with continuity and I don’t see them messing up that simple of a detail.
The angel trap (Kerry's death) is murder since she didn't have the chance to survive.
Dragon Slayer it would still count as murder even if she had the chance to survive
All the traps are murder😐
John didn’t make the angel trap, Amanda did, and all her traps were inescapable deliberately.
Hugh J arshole Arshole would it really be? Didn’t John mention that he doesn’t kill them and they kill themselves? He gives them a chance to survive.
Dragon Slayer if you died in a trap what would you call it
9:37 The pig grinder trap has to be one of the most disgusting in the series, and that’s saying something because these movies are notorious for their gore! 🤮
The rack was the most gore in my opinion
Ryan Hutchinson the scenes in these movies usually don’t bother me, but that one disgusted me.
@@robertsilvey8957 i liked Timothy youngs trap
Imagine slowly drowning in slush made out of rotting pig corpses
Well said, it’s a nice change from the usually shocking gore and in this case shocks you with something equally disgusting and unexpected
*Jeff get key*
*Gun kills judge*
Jeff: and I oop-
Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Noo, anything but that
OOF Nemo X😂😂😂😂X
I love this
Someone: *stubs their toe and complains*
Jigsaw: *_do you even appreciate life bro_*
For a second I didn't get why at the end there was blue woman symbol (picture?) Instead of it being consistently red..and then I saw the one with her head blown off and I realized....that one was the woman who froze to death
Luna I didn’t even realize that myself. I thought it was some kind of Edit Error.
Yeah, I appreciate the detail he puts into the editing of these videos. There are always neat little easter eggs hidden in the kill counts!
game over
U got noticed lol
Fun fact: The film actually intended to have John, after all this, realize what his result of his legacy be, have a heel realization. To quote Bousman:
"For the first time, we actually see him break down and cry. Imagine your entire life's work. You're on your deathbed. You know there's nothing else you can do an here's how you'll be remembered: as a killer, as a murderer. Not as someone who helped people. Not as someone who changed lives. Someone who took away lives. The one thing he didn't want to be and, as he's on his deathbed, he's realizing this."
Maybe Lynn would actually get through to John since she probably reminds him of Jill (as he hallucinates his ex during the surgery.) Would've been an interesting scene for sure, and even kind of an emotional one.
Funny, for some times that's what I wanted to have for the films. Jigsaw realizing what he's doing and what he has done. It's just so important and interesting for the character, but sadly they decided to dive deeper in unnecassary blood and gore fest and a bit far-fetched plot. Really sad, it had potential.
Thing is, that could've worked for this movie. Because out of all the other Saw movies this one is more emotional than the others.
@@yesno2697 True, but I think it's mainly what should've been done in general. I think the series has a great potential but past 3, it became more of a gore fest than something else. But yeah, I like Saw III even though it may not be the best, I see many people hating it badly
Bruh.
That would have been a much better ending than the convoluted ending we had here
"Hey, my name is Jeff and my strange addiction is being slow."
The Pixel good spelling
Hahahahahahhaah you’re so fucking funny lmfao I’m dead HAHAHAHAHA
How slow can you go?
*Addiction
Name jeff
NOOOOO ADAM, no one is talking about the worst death. Rest in Peace Adam, :((
suffocation honestly is a generous way to go out, even thought the dude didn't deserve to die at all.
Yeah I was surprised Adam got the dull machete. Amanda was literally Jigsaw’s accomplice and she just fuckin bled out from a GUNSHOT wound?
I loved his character, he didn't deserve this. :'(
You're saying that is the worst death in this movie?
They need a new fucking timeline
SAMF Jeff was only using 1% of his slowness. If he was using 100% he would complete the challenges at the moment of the heat death of the universe.
The acid wouldnt dissolve her hand that quick and just dehydrates it and can take up to ten minutes to actually do damage to human flesh
But where would be the fun in that?
Mr. DiZzY Amanda forgets to do research and just ends up slightly dehydrating someone
You would need a super strong acid to do that I'm just saying that it looks like an acid that doesnt look strong enough
What i am trying to figure out is why, when kerry put her hand in the acid where did the skin go?
“Gone, reduced to Atoms”
Hang on I’ve just realised, Jigsaw didn’t want Adam to die AT ALL! Think about it! He listened to the whole 8 hour conversation between him and Gordon and got a judgement of how kind hearted Adam actually was. For example, Adam did not want to show Lawrence the photo of his kidnapped wife and daughter as he didn’t want him to feel more upset! Jigsaw’s final words to Adam before the Game Over were.. “The key to that chain IS in the bathtub!” Key word (pun intended) ‘Is’. Jigsaw was still under the impression that they Key was still there not knowing at the time how haphazard Amanda was with the key! He probably expected Adam to do the same thing and be a survivor. Edit: Also take note that Jigsaw only says... “Most people are so ungrateful to be alive; but not you, not anymore!” to those who survive... Ergo, why he said it through Billy to Amanda (who surprise, surprise, survived!) Also to those on the Saw ride at Thorpe Park who survive!
He said that Adam was the one who needed to escape. YOUR COMMENT WAS SO DAMN USELESS
Erm...Me confused
Soo... Adam was supposed to be another apprentice (perhaps?) but then jealous Amanda killed him...?
This is just what I picked up.
He drugged himself and fell asleep, he didn’t hear anything lmao.
I respect you for figuring this out thanks
Jeff Denlon the most unintentionally unsympathetic Saw protagonist ever.
Jigsaw 27: "You donated to charity A, not charity B, time to be sawed in half!"
S R you donated to homophobes and sex offenders, not transphobes and bank robbers...
Saw 1000 i lost in fortnite that's when i knew people had to die
Mummy said I had to go to bed early, it was then I knew...
@@Cuteness_overload-g3g lol
Ah yes, the start of SLOWASSMUDAFUCKINJEFF
As awful as jeff he is in my opinion the perfect character for this film. Hes a vengeful fundamentally awful person who is repetadly shown his cruelty personified by the saw traps. In a way jigsaw is showing him how vile his vengeance truly is.
or how slow he is , like jesus christ ,move your damn feet
Yeah I never thought his slowness was a plot slowness, I think it was on purpose because he hated the victims and didn't really want to save any of them.
@@Grassroots_Hegemon That doesn't explain his stupidity in never listening to anyone even after it caused 3 deaths and put his wife in a life threatening situation... Seriously he might as well be an Antagonist at this point.
Considering he learns nothing, can't say I care.
Come now James. We all know Amanda didn't die, she was taken by the Entity!
The first 3 Saw films were honestly one of the best horror trilogies ever created. One has to wonder what kind of legacy they would have left if they stopped the series here.
The rack trap is probably one of the most twisted traps in the Saw series. (Damnit I just made a pun)
Cigar3tin Nic0tin0 nice one
frick
It is so fucking crazy
That and the rib one.
An hour of this movie is Jeff debating wether he should save the trap victims.
Correction. He's SLOWLY debating whether or not to save them. Classic SAMF Jeff. 😂
@@ajchapman5261 yep because emotional distress plays no part in any of it right?
@@RJLiams Calm tf down. All I did was make a joke about him being slow. I'm not the only one who did.
And only deciding to save them when they're not long off dying anyway.
I was sooo confused 😆. I thought I was going crazy cause i swore this came out already thanks for the explanation though alot of people ive seen do reuploads like this dont explain
Jason mason same
Yes they do but they put it in the description like he did but he put it in the comments too
Exactly same
Jason mason omg same
Jason mason ikr
Detective Matthews was my favorite character in Saw. Can't describe my wrath and dissatisfaction about his vicious death after he had come so close to his escape
the fact that he can stand with both Achilles tendons severed is a miracle
* Sees dead meat in notifications *
“CHRISTMAS CAME EARLY!”
Two minutes later... “oh...”
My Profile Picture is God right 😂
Mood
My Profile Picture is God ikr
Why the ‘oh’?
Two minuets more like 2 Seconds
7:08 My favorite thing in horror movies is when the main antagonist tells another antagonist they’re going too far.😂