if you worked hard to get the makeup/suit in the first place, at least a FEW should have different skin tone options for their makeup instead of makeup cost + extra makeup cost :(
I believe every makeup should have different skin tones for free, you just select your makeup and the tone like what you do with the pose/no pose selection for outfits
@@meff841 i wish they would start releasing old poses in the new skin tones. they prolly make them for demands as well. i understand it because the devs/artists/programmers need to paid. the cos is i bit high when the details of the makeup are already drawn if it's an old makeup.
i wounder if it wold be possible to make make ups with only the details, so the skin tone was not there at all. then that could sit on all the skin tones
Someone else said it in the comments, but it's not cool how darker skin tones are 1) ACCESSORIES and 2) often labeled "sexy". darker skin is not inherently sexy, and that's actually a very negative association that has plagued black women for many years. To be honest, I don't think the skin tones should have style tags. Because it's not like makeup that make you look younger, alluring, dramatic etc. It's skin.
Part of it has to do with the Asian culture, which take what you will of it. There's literally a tag for hentai for a darker skin tone ( I forget the word), and that's only talking about like a tan color, not even anything darker. I remember there was a video showing some asian guys looking at pictures of women (there was some point of intent to it, I just forget what it was. Think it was a body type thing), and one guy full blown admitted the only time they really see black people is in porn. And I don't think he even liked it, because usually the girls in the porn usually have bodies too thick for his liking (Keep in mind, we're comparing this to asian body standards, mildly curvy bodies a good few of them were balking at, let alone anything on the thicker side, think there was like 1 guy that liked them). Sooo..... that might have something to do with it lol. Also, skin tones used to not be under accessories, but when they started to add more stuff, they moved it so it would be more organized.
While I do agree with you, that would (from a programming standpoint) mean that nikki should come with a blank face, not a default makeup I think. Otherwise, if the eyes etc. are a different shape, the overlapping makeup would look really weird on her default makeup. Do correct me if I'm wrong tho.
That’s a lot easier said than done unfortunately 😭 Translucent eyes nose and mouth are no problem but blushes and eyeshadow would have a very hard time overlaying correctly on different skin tones. And that’s on top of all the artist work to redraw everything
@@meff841 why not add blush to skintones themselves to add a variety of skintones? It is much easier and will help to add skin variety. However, they can easily test out blush on skin before making it translucent through such thing as LAYERS during the creation process. That way they know how it is going to look on other skintones without worrying about making it for a specific skin
right but that would mean re rendering hundreds of maybe thousands(??) of items. it’s so much tedious work and game developers usually don’t have the foresight to avoid every single future problem. this isn’t really a solution moving forward, obviously it would make things easier but it could have only happened in the past pre release
The comments at the end reminded me that we need dark skin boy makeup. I know this is a Chinese franchise for mainly girls but I love boy/man outfits and unisex outfits too, and some variation in skin color where the makeup looks masculine would be so nice.
That comment in the end made me realise we also need darker skin boys! Back to the makeup issue, these make-ups do cost the same as the original, however, considering how little make-up options we have for darker skin tones these or some other on top of these make-ups should've been given for free. Additionally, they should also be in the main story, in the store for coins and for diamonds, in the weekly comp store, in stylist's arena etc. Also, bringing back some past events and make-ups might be the thing to do for right now; like offering the fan made make-up for free again. In the future, make exclusive darker skin tone poses or make it so the poses are for every skin tone. I'd honestly love if you could select the body and change the skin tone rather than it be an "accessory" and don't assign them attributes. This could be kept for unnatural skin tones if they really want, like the purple translucent skeleton one.
this hits different as a black love nikki player. Every day is a fight for equality. Why not just have transparent makeups? It would make it easier for them too but money dmh6
Someone explained why you can't make them transparent, it would literally require rebuilding the whole system from scratch. So it really wouldn't be easier at all lol. On a side note, the reason why is because LN is a game made in an asian country, I don't know which one. Most asian countries tend to be fairly homogeneous skin tone wise.
Another thing, it feels they've started offering a light version of darker suits/makeups, as if to say, psh yea you might not like that, here's the "normal" version. It would be nice if all suits came with deep skin counterparts. That would also make the game so so much more creative. It would be nice if the next big update was the gift of deep skin variations of existing makeups.
@@kld8206 yea, you're right desert jewel doesn't. it feels like lately when they've released a darker skin suit/makeup there is a light counterpart. but it almost never happens with lighter makeups (even though they could do it). They didn't do it for the first barbie event, but they did it for the second and that black and white posed suit (you had to pay for it).
@@bpeoples4043 the Barbie suits don't have a white variant nor in makeup or pose. I own the second Barbie collab suits. There's no light skin version for it
@@kld8206 the darker one is Rebellion, the lighter makeup is Fearless of True Self (lmao, no comment on names). So, if you don't use the pose, you get the suit in two forms. The original darker skin makeup and the lighter form.
@@kld8206 the darker one is Rebellion, the lighter makeup is Fearless of True Self (lmao, no comment on names). So, if you don't use the pose, you get the suit in two forms. The original darker skin makeup and the lighter form.
I'm glad they made the makups in the darker skintones. But I wish they had made it in all of the skintones. I use the tone that looks most like me most of the time and I LOVE this makeup but it isn't available. Also I wish they had made the original pose that the makeup came with available in the darker skintones. It's like they are trying but they could do so much better!!!
I’m just tired of a paywall to make a Nikki that looks like me. Especially when we get suits for us with darker complexion, 9 times out of 10, there is a default non person of color makeup and pose as a completion prize. If they made darker makeups and poses completion prizes too, then we wouldn’t have this issue. For all three of these makeups, you could essentially get most of an event suit lol
Technically, the default is a person of color. I'm pretty sure the default skin tone is that for asians, kinda how in anime, almost all the anime characters are asian, but Americans always assume they're white.
@@heavennunya809 wait why would they be white? Anime is mostly asia thing, most creators are asian, the biggest market for it is in asia so why would the characters be not Asian?
@@CinderelaInTheRain Well, in America you get a lot of people with weird names, they just assume they're weird names. It's just a kind of narrow mindedness and lack of any critical thinking skills. Again, understandable for a child, not so much for an adult.
I was so frustrated by this! I remember feeling so excited when I logged in thinking the recipes would be easy to craft or at least cost coins only, but LN was like NOPE! Let's make this cost a frig ton of diamonds 😂😭.
The snowland Shepherd did not come with makeup. They do that sometimes for suits: look for an comment of "makeup is not included" on the event ad image. The image you show is using Youth Storm for face.
Of the 423 makeups that are listed in the wardrobe, only 32 are not for white. And all 32 have the tag mature and / or sexy. Of all the poses available, there are almost none for non-whites. A crowd is going on to demand that they change these characteristics of the game, go to your user's picture → settings → support → I Want To Make Advice! → Advice form → paste the text - I want to complain about the amount of non-white makeup that is in the game. There are 32 makeups for colored skins and 423 for white, and most of them are unavailable or cost thousands of diamonds to craft while white ones are much cheaper. I recommend that you remove the color of the face in makeup and poses so that everyone can use any of them without being excluded. Do as many times as possible and share with other players.
I’m seriously conflicted about and offended the way this game is attempting to be inclusive with the dark skin & dark skin makeups. The first 3 they made “miss skateboard”, “warm ray” and “hot beat” look like what I’m gonna call “living skin tones”... they then had a thing where the most of the dark skin makeups released were mostly for the lightest of the 3, “miss skateboard” and “warm ray”. Then they came out with the “light of cosmos” which is exactly the same as “warm ray” then the skin “hackers secret” which looks like a dead persons skin with its chalky grayish under tone and is lighter than “hot beat” because of that, then they come out with “virtual image” which has that same chalky undertone but is also like the took “hot beat” and said there are people darker than this in the world. then it took a beautiful FAN took it upon themselves to make a make up for “hot beat” till this day they have not made one other makeup for “hot beat” but the have decided to release a bunch for “hackers secret” 🤦🏾♀️ the dead skin which only looks a bit better when there is blush on the make up. And one for “virtual image”. So far the makeup count is about Miss skateboard- 6 Warm ray/light of cosmos- 9 Hackers secret- 5 Hot beat- 3 (1 fan made) Virtual image- 2 They’ve been on a “hackers secret skin makeup” kick this past while and have done nothing for “hot beat” since it was released with its 2 makeups a fans popular makeup was released and it been out the same amount of time as “warm ray” and “miss skateboard”
They also keep adding more dark shades but then not adding any makeups for them aside from the one that goes to the suit (like Humanoid Source Code only JUST NOW got an alternate makeup).
I also just wanted to point out that skin tones SHOULD NOT have tags. 99% of them have the ‘sexy’ or ‘mature’ tag, and that is just playing into the harmful stereotype that black women are sexual objects.
Well LN developers were really businessmen. They know that most players wanted dark skinned makeups and male suits. That's why they're either last in a Tiered event, always costs high in diamonds and were in app purchases.
The devs get absolutely no brownie points from me for this. Literally every single makeup and posed item should be skin tone compatible, free of charge once you own the original. It’s not an unreasonable or unrealistic demand; we *know* it’s doable so there’s really no excuse. It would take time and effort to fix, yeah, I get that, but that’s what you get to deal with when you fuck up. Also having real skin tones as ranked items in the accessory section is....really racist to begin with. They should remove the tags on all natural skin tones altogether, and if they feel like they must replace that slot with something, make it something like ‘skin overlays’ or instead. Examples of this could include the puppet/broken puppet skins (transparent so they go with all tones) as well as the spooky purple skeleton skin. But there could be so much more?? Give us weird, otherworldly stuff. Give us green and blue and purple. Give us neons and pastels. Give us body glitter. Hell, get creative, give us a metallic robot skin with nuts and bolts?? The possibilities are literally endless. Put tags on those weird things all you want, but don’t put them on people’s actual real life skin tones. Do put them in the game, but don’t be so damn weird about it, it’s not hard to understand????
Well, they didn't really fuck up, technically, this game wasn't really made for Americans initially. It got ported over. All the default skins are technically Asian. Also, skin tones didn't used to be under accessories, but when they added new types of stuff they needed more room, and that's how it ended up there. Used to you used to have to scroll through that menu even outside of clothes, and it was kinda annoying, especially when you accidentally pressed the back button trying to scroll or select the bottom option..... The set up now is a lot better.
i.am.peachy tell me about it🤦🏻♀️ aren’t indians, Pakistanis and other Asians brown too? Do we have our own continent? No. We also belong to Asia. But it’s really bull crap to start with that Asia’s prime is only Chinese,Koreans etc. who have lighter skin. Don’t you recognise us people?
As an Indian LN player, my skin tone is more brown and in between the darker and lighter shades. I always try to make my character look like me, and it’s SO HARD to find makeup that matches my skin tone, and just not-white skin tones in general. I wish the game made them more available and easily accessible. I’ve definitely felt like some devs may be racist or colorist if all they’re thinking of is money or labeling skin an accessory when it comes to darker skin.
I feel scammed as well but at least they put the makeups along with a consumption event. It would have been even worse if they just gave them to us at random. Also remember that the original makeup costs diamonds so I don't know if it would be fair to players who spent diamonds on the suit. What I think they should've done is give players who have the makeup already the different color makeups but players who don't have the suit can get each for about 50 diamonds. But hey they did advertise all makeups as free so I get why people are mad.
#earlybird My ThEoRy Is ThAt MoMo AnD sApPhiRe ArE wOrkiNg ToGeThEr To MakE uS sUfFeR! But actually,they probably trying to make more money by making the makeups expensive so people would recharge to get it.
I 100% agree with you, if you already own the makeup you shouldn't have pay 900 diamonds just to own the alternate skins, also wow I never realized there were so few dark makeups! I'm v5 and I only have three! All of this probably wouldn't be much of a problem if love nikki made faces transparent , I'm not sure how hard that'd be to do, but it seems like a simple solution
They're so expensive because LN devs picked make ups that cost diamonds which is disappointing. I'm not super upset about the ones that have been released costing diamonds because it makes sense for those particular make ups to cost what they do. But I think they could do some gold ones like Peach Sweatheart or make new ones entirely that don't cost diamonds/money that could be in the user shop. Tbh I really think they are making dark skinned make ups cost so much because of the high demand for them on our server which is frustrating. They are figuring people will want them anyway so might as well make money off it.
LN being racist? OMG that's impossible! (Sarcasm) Most wasteland (pay attention to the name) suits are blonde white. Most suits are only pale skinned and not available for darker skins. Why? If darker skins available pale skin, why wouldn't all pose suits be available in darker skin tones? Also, most dark skin makeup have blue or green eyes, only one has brown eyes.
Holy shit!!! One of the darker versions of moth is with the Star Fantasy Skin!!! I love that!! I really wanna use her skin with white/light hair cause love that contrast, but I hate the default makeup and the OG one doesn't fit the vibe, ya know?
I love your idea for making the recolors of the makeup more accessible and still fair. I mean, I paid for the original makeup with diamonds so that should be enough. I might crumble for the Moth to Fire recolors though because I love that makeup so much. TvT
@@FireFoxCamille the new make up being free is asking the devs to do all that work again for free. if i was easy for them to to do different skin tones we would have a lot more make ups buy now, especially for money. i could see them being a bit cheaper than the original, because the detail are done already and only the new base needs to be added. but i understand them being not free. honestly i wish they'd give/sell us more of the poses we already have in the skin tones we have. and split the tomes of make up in to separate categories so you don't have to dig through everything the darker ones
I've never understood why the outfit skin doesn't change when you select the skin tone? Like you have to have a basic version of the outfit to use any other skin tone... That really limits darker skin tones and I really hope they change it 😣
I agree with you, it's ridiculously expensive to get them and YES the original makeup should be in the recipe instead!! It would make so much more sense.
Still sad these cost diamonds. Still bought one tho cause this is one of my absolute favorite makeups. Also we're gonna get dark variations of moth to fire soon. I believe it's gonna be the exact same.
im still waiting them to add the colour sort....its way too freaking annyoing to scroll all the way down to the bottom when u want to use some old clothes
I don't understand why they made the recipes available for a limited time. couldn't they just have added them to the store of starlight or something? also, since they went through the effort of making the makeup in the different skin tones, I think they should've made the special pose available in the different skin tones too.
So, as a V0 player (I'm against using real money for this kind of games.I must resist!!!) I think spending SO MANY diamonds for this 3 make-ups isn't really worthy. I had to skip 3 events so I could save 2400 diamonds more or less (But with the cupid's outfit now I have only 1500 :,) ), and knowing that a HUGE hell event is coming I think is better to save up as much as I can so I can get at least one outfit.
It might make you feel even more motivated to stay v0 if you look up all the tricks unscrupulous microtransaction tricks games use. Like all the thousands of different currency types in order to prevent you from getting a good financial overview and disabling you from being able to save surplus currency.
I love your voice your so soothing and make me so happy!! i also love how you say Makeup it's so satisfying and cute X3 also i love your videos so much
As someone who loves creating fantasy characters like orcs, dark elves and much more, I would love to be able to create a skin that is lavender or emerald and so on. Though it would have to be in a system where all the makeups don't include any face skin color.
@@Call-me-Al There's a lucky bag we haven't gotten where the skin is kinda lavenderish. I'm excited for it. But as stated it's a lucky bag (probably 50+ bucks) idk if the skin will be distributed for free or you have to get the suit to get the skin (like attachment of specter, the most forgotten skin in game, change my mind)
@@kld8206 i love that ghost skin! I was super envious of my boyfriend when he got it. But they released that suit for crafting the day before today IIRC!!! Gonna cost a lot of diamonds but at least it is attainable now. I already started crafting parts of the suit. The skin (and the makeup) is my only reason for wanting to craft such an expensive suit. I really hope they will release that future lavender skin for free.
Something they should do is just put the make up on a transparent png or jpeg so that it can work with all skin tones, it’s a really simple solution and it’s pretty annoying
I thought this game was awesome before I saw how poorly the dark skin was implemented. If the devs originally structured this game so that dark skninned avatars were also dolls that worked with poses and makeup instead of simple overlays they would have had my whole pay check. When I first saw that dark skin didn't work with 90% of the cool stuff it broke the illusion.
If they had them as completion rewards, then for those who don't have the suit, they'd have to craft the entire suit to get them, which would cost even more diamonds.
I own almost none of the dark skin make up we have available to get right now cause I'm not gonna craft a suit only for the make up that's usually a completion prize. Almost 1k for all of those makeups we just got is laughable.
I mean it's fair that they're the exact same price to craft as the original makeup but they just never mentioned that. They said that they were recipes, not free makeups. And since the original makeup required diamonds, then this one does too.
not quite right the thing is, why don’t they release dark skin tones makeups for the cheaper/free makeups we got? There are so many of them, and they would be easily accessible
@@donkeykong3628 That would be fair, and if they put them as rewards for completing newer suits then that'd work too, like for Street Extreme, not that they can do that for suits with already established rewards but they can do it for new suits that they make. As long as they don't just release DST versions of the makeups that cost diamonds to craft, I think it'll be fine.
I’m worried that moth to flame darker skins might only be available if you get the original suit cus moth to flame is only available after getting most of her suit...
I'm late and you probably won't respond but I have Mighty Milky Way and I never could figure out how to get the skintone for it and I just was wondering how.
It kinda sucks LN always puts so much emphasis on, hey look, we have dark makeup and sikn tones, but they're so expensive to make, or buy. Also, congratulations on 16K bb💜.
I feel like there should be a model settings button on the dress up screen. The menu the button leads to lets you change the skin color and it doesn't count towards your style score. And the makeups are transparent, so they work with every skin tone.
For Star Fantasy, her skin is weird because I'm pretty certain she's an alien or something like that, so the gray-black skin made sense to me-even the makeup.
he devs started skin tomes because we harassed them in to it, not because they wanted more equality. i was there on the face book page when there was a post asking for more skin tones every other day.
Yeah but the point of having more skin tone makeup is for more equality and diversity regardless if certain players are being the way they are and it could cause a problem if they put a pay wall if they are trying to help fix this problem....sure this one you can craft and still spend diamonds, unlike the other ones that even im not up for spending diamonds to complete a suit i dont want which is unfair
@@selyinsanitysin5095 ya i agree on the event ones, i forgot about all the exclusive ones that wont be back i also find it off putting that they only made available the makeup for the suit. i want the old poses to work with the skin tones as well. the make make up one of the last thing you the in an event alot. even the white tone.
In Ln I have problems getting skin tones that I am or prefer but they're so hard to get!!(The makeup)Don't get me started on posed suits!! I want to use a different tone like, Hot beat and the makeup Milky way! I thought it would look gorgeous on the suit Psalm of time But NO! I CANT USE IT ;-; And Ln please stop tagging darker skin tones as "ethic" or "Sexy" I'm pretty sure tons of people can agree on that!
It's unfair because they kinda advertised it as a free gift. So many people were excited for DARK SKINNED MAKEUPS. Some people just want something either cheap or free to just do a cute look with a dark skin, it's already unfair for poc who don't have enough content in the game, and then to hype something up just to kinda be like "Oh yeah, it's your fault for assuming" is kinda... Shitty.
@@Sapphire_Kitty yes, the recipes are free. passing the 9 days they give us to claim them for free they going to cost coins or diamonds plus the materials.
v what the people below are saying, and also, it'd be nice if you could just 1) recolor the original 2) craft it with the original as part of it so u still need to spend dias to get the original but free for the different tones
The thing that is annoying is that I have the original makeup anyway, so why can't I have the dark skin ones as well? Let alone ~1000 dias!! It doesn't make any sense...
Tbh why are makeups not just.. eyes and lips on a TRANSPARENT png that is just pasted onto skin so that all makeups work with all skins. Same with clothes. Making it so that all skintones work with all suits (yes, even posed) isnt hard AT ALL
They should make a more cheaper event for the V0 player like me because I have 2 hell event suites that I was almost able to finish, and I don’t know when I will be able to finish them. Plus, most of the none hell events that come up I can never finish! It would be a miracle if there was an event that cost less than the normal diamond count for the events.
I hate when moth to fire dsts came out they added an item you could craft for dias(the mask) and then added cloud lady rather than the original makeup being the ONLY dia item plus non dia items.
So I feel like all posed suits should have the option of being a different skin color. I know they can do it what with those one suits that change with the day night cycle.
I got them all LN Take my overtime money.Why not?🤷♀️ and then on top of that give us a hell event the cherry on the cake🤦🏻♀️......... I hope you're having a beautiful day so far ❤
I'm so hyped for the moth to fire makeup, I use it all the time so I'd love to have it with dark skin tones! If it is a dia based crafting I'll just save it for another dia spending event.
If the original makeup cost dias to craft, it should cost dias to craft the darker skintones. It would be illogical for the other skintones to be free. The only other logical option is to "dye" the original makeup though it would consume the original makeup like with all other clothes if you only have 1 of the item.
If we already own the original make up we shouldn’t have to pay with diamonds for the darker versions, that is unfair 😡
if you worked hard to get the makeup/suit in the first place, at least a FEW should have different skin tone options for their makeup instead of makeup cost + extra makeup cost :(
Exactly. It doesn't make sense.
I believe every makeup should have different skin tones for free, you just select your makeup and the tone like what you do with the pose/no pose selection for outfits
^^^^ best solution
Very true!
That would be so nice but I’m afraid it’d increase the workload for the artists too much and it’ll raise the price of events even more ;;
@@meff841 i wish they would start releasing old poses in the new skin tones. they prolly make them for demands as well. i understand it because the devs/artists/programmers need to paid. the cos is i bit high when the details of the makeup are already drawn if it's an old makeup.
i wounder if it wold be possible to make make ups with only the details, so the skin tone was not there at all. then that could sit on all the skin tones
Someone else said it in the comments, but it's not cool how darker skin tones are 1) ACCESSORIES and 2) often labeled "sexy". darker skin is not inherently sexy, and that's actually a very negative association that has plagued black women for many years.
To be honest, I don't think the skin tones should have style tags. Because it's not like makeup that make you look younger, alluring, dramatic etc. It's skin.
Part of it has to do with the Asian culture, which take what you will of it. There's literally a tag for hentai for a darker skin tone ( I forget the word), and that's only talking about like a tan color, not even anything darker. I remember there was a video showing some asian guys looking at pictures of women (there was some point of intent to it, I just forget what it was. Think it was a body type thing), and one guy full blown admitted the only time they really see black people is in porn. And I don't think he even liked it, because usually the girls in the porn usually have bodies too thick for his liking (Keep in mind, we're comparing this to asian body standards, mildly curvy bodies a good few of them were balking at, let alone anything on the thicker side, think there was like 1 guy that liked them). Sooo..... that might have something to do with it lol.
Also, skin tones used to not be under accessories, but when they started to add more stuff, they moved it so it would be more organized.
YES!!! I agree!!!!
Here's a solution - make skintones of makeups translucent
While I do agree with you, that would (from a programming standpoint) mean that nikki should come with a blank face, not a default makeup I think. Otherwise, if the eyes etc. are a different shape, the overlapping makeup would look really weird on her default makeup. Do correct me if I'm wrong tho.
hanyouangel93 i think her default face would disappear when you use a makeup (like how her normal arms disappear when you use an arm pose)
That’s a lot easier said than done unfortunately 😭 Translucent eyes nose and mouth are no problem but blushes and eyeshadow would have a very hard time overlaying correctly on different skin tones. And that’s on top of all the artist work to redraw everything
@@meff841 why not add blush to skintones themselves to add a variety of skintones? It is much easier and will help to add skin variety. However, they can easily test out blush on skin before making it translucent through such thing as LAYERS during the creation process. That way they know how it is going to look on other skintones without worrying about making it for a specific skin
right but that would mean re rendering hundreds of maybe thousands(??) of items. it’s so much tedious work and game developers usually don’t have the foresight to avoid every single future problem. this isn’t really a solution moving forward, obviously it would make things easier but it could have only happened in the past pre release
The comments at the end reminded me that we need dark skin boy makeup. I know this is a Chinese franchise for mainly girls but I love boy/man outfits and unisex outfits too, and some variation in skin color where the makeup looks masculine would be so nice.
That comment in the end made me realise we also need darker skin boys! Back to the makeup issue, these make-ups do cost the same as the original, however, considering how little make-up options we have for darker skin tones these or some other on top of these make-ups should've been given for free. Additionally, they should also be in the main story, in the store for coins and for diamonds, in the weekly comp store, in stylist's arena etc. Also, bringing back some past events and make-ups might be the thing to do for right now; like offering the fan made make-up for free again. In the future, make exclusive darker skin tone poses or make it so the poses are for every skin tone. I'd honestly love if you could select the body and change the skin tone rather than it be an "accessory" and don't assign them attributes. This could be kept for unnatural skin tones if they really want, like the purple translucent skeleton one.
they did make a darker skin version of a male makeup, but of all the beautiful male makeup they could have chosen, they chose sapphire of all things
I missed a lot of the events so I don’t have as much of them and I’m sad
Probably gonna use all my diamonds on these and then LN will decide it's the perfect time to pull out a hell event ;-;
Yep🤦🏻♀️
omg no oooo DONT FALL INTO THE TRAP but it's a good time to spend dias since u get the cupid suit if u spend 999 dias xD
this hits different as a black love nikki player. Every day is a fight for equality. Why not just have transparent makeups? It would make it easier for them too but money dmh6
this isnt just about makeups either. I think every pose should have another option because it's disappointing
Exactly!!! And not just for us, they could save many time instead of making different versions of the same makeup!
Someone explained why you can't make them transparent, it would literally require rebuilding the whole system from scratch. So it really wouldn't be easier at all lol. On a side note, the reason why is because LN is a game made in an asian country, I don't know which one. Most asian countries tend to be fairly homogeneous skin tone wise.
Another thing, it feels they've started offering a light version of darker suits/makeups, as if to say, psh yea you might not like that, here's the "normal" version.
It would be nice if all suits came with deep skin counterparts. That would also make the game so so much more creative.
It would be nice if the next big update was the gift of deep skin variations of existing makeups.
Some darker skinned make ups don't have a white variant (I.e Desert Jewel, the Barbie make ups)
@@kld8206 yea, you're right desert jewel doesn't. it feels like lately when they've released a darker skin suit/makeup there is a light counterpart. but it almost never happens with lighter makeups (even though they could do it). They didn't do it for the first barbie event, but they did it for the second and that black and white posed suit (you had to pay for it).
@@bpeoples4043 the Barbie suits don't have a white variant nor in makeup or pose. I own the second Barbie collab suits. There's no light skin version for it
@@kld8206 the darker one is Rebellion, the lighter makeup is Fearless of True Self (lmao, no comment on names). So, if you don't use the pose, you get the suit in two forms. The original darker skin makeup and the lighter form.
@@kld8206 the darker one is Rebellion, the lighter makeup is Fearless of True Self (lmao, no comment on names). So, if you don't use the pose, you get the suit in two forms. The original darker skin makeup and the lighter form.
They should just make dark skin versions of all the makeup and poses that already exist
I'm glad they made the makups in the darker skintones. But I wish they had made it in all of the skintones. I use the tone that looks most like me most of the time and I LOVE this makeup but it isn't available. Also I wish they had made the original pose that the makeup came with available in the darker skintones. It's like they are trying but they could do so much better!!!
It’s annoyingly how costly the darker skin tones are
Love Nikki team: Ok so how much should all three makeups cost?
Love Nikki CEO: Yes
I’m just tired of a paywall to make a Nikki that looks like me. Especially when we get suits for us with darker complexion, 9 times out of 10, there is a default non person of color makeup and pose as a completion prize. If they made darker makeups and poses completion prizes too, then we wouldn’t have this issue. For all three of these makeups, you could essentially get most of an event suit lol
Technically, the default is a person of color. I'm pretty sure the default skin tone is that for asians, kinda how in anime, almost all the anime characters are asian, but Americans always assume they're white.
@@heavennunya809 wait why would they be white? Anime is mostly asia thing, most creators are asian, the biggest market for it is in asia so why would the characters be not Asian?
@@CinderelaInTheRain Because they're skin looks white. I get that logic with a child, but adults do it too, unfortunately.
@@heavennunya809 but their names are asian... White people don't really have asian names... One more thing to add to people are strange list I guess
@@CinderelaInTheRain Well, in America you get a lot of people with weird names, they just assume they're weird names. It's just a kind of narrow mindedness and lack of any critical thinking skills. Again, understandable for a child, not so much for an adult.
I was so frustrated by this! I remember feeling so excited when I logged in thinking the recipes would be easy to craft or at least cost coins only, but LN was like NOPE! Let's make this cost a frig ton of diamonds 😂😭.
The snowland Shepherd did not come with makeup. They do that sometimes for suits: look for an comment of "makeup is not included" on the event ad image. The image you show is using Youth Storm for face.
Of the 423 makeups that are listed in the wardrobe, only 32 are not for white. And all 32 have the tag mature and / or sexy.
Of all the poses available, there are almost none for non-whites.
A crowd is going on to demand that they change these characteristics of the game, go to your user's picture → settings → support → I Want To Make Advice! → Advice form → paste the text - I want to complain about the amount of non-white makeup that is in the game. There are 32 makeups for colored skins and 423 for white, and most of them are unavailable or cost thousands of diamonds to craft while white ones are much cheaper. I recommend that you remove the color of the face in makeup and poses so that everyone can use any of them without being excluded.
Do as many times as possible and share with other players.
i hate how they literally make skin an “accessory” like you can just change it whenever. I wish they could switch Spirit and Skin
I’m seriously conflicted about and offended the way this game is attempting to be inclusive with the dark skin & dark skin makeups.
The first 3 they made “miss skateboard”, “warm ray” and “hot beat” look like what I’m gonna call “living skin tones”... they then had a thing where the most of the dark skin makeups released were mostly for the lightest of the 3, “miss skateboard” and “warm ray”. Then they came out with the “light of cosmos” which is exactly the same as “warm ray” then the skin “hackers secret” which looks like a dead persons skin with its chalky grayish under tone and is lighter than “hot beat” because of that,
then they come out with “virtual image” which has that same chalky undertone but is also like the took “hot beat” and said there are people darker than this in the world.
then it took a beautiful FAN took it upon themselves to make a make up for “hot beat” till this day they have not made one other makeup for “hot beat” but the have decided to release a bunch for “hackers secret” 🤦🏾♀️ the dead skin which only looks a bit better when there is blush on the make up. And one for “virtual image”.
So far the makeup count is about
Miss skateboard- 6
Warm ray/light of cosmos- 9
Hackers secret- 5
Hot beat- 3 (1 fan made)
Virtual image- 2
They’ve been on a “hackers secret skin makeup” kick this past while and have done nothing for “hot beat” since it was released with its 2 makeups a fans popular makeup was released and it been out the same amount of time as “warm ray” and “miss skateboard”
They also keep adding more dark shades but then not adding any makeups for them aside from the one that goes to the suit (like Humanoid Source Code only JUST NOW got an alternate makeup).
I also just wanted to point out that skin tones SHOULD NOT have tags. 99% of them have the ‘sexy’ or ‘mature’ tag, and that is just playing into the harmful stereotype that black women are sexual objects.
We should definitely be able to dye makeups
Well LN developers were really businessmen. They know that most players wanted dark skinned makeups and male suits. That's why they're either last in a Tiered event, always costs high in diamonds and were in app purchases.
The devs get absolutely no brownie points from me for this. Literally every single makeup and posed item should be skin tone compatible, free of charge once you own the original. It’s not an unreasonable or unrealistic demand; we *know* it’s doable so there’s really no excuse.
It would take time and effort to fix, yeah, I get that, but that’s what you get to deal with when you fuck up.
Also having real skin tones as ranked items in the accessory section is....really racist to begin with.
They should remove the tags on all natural skin tones altogether, and if they feel like they must replace that slot with something, make it something like ‘skin overlays’ or instead. Examples of this could include the puppet/broken puppet skins (transparent so they go with all tones) as well as the spooky purple skeleton skin. But there could be so much more?? Give us weird, otherworldly stuff. Give us green and blue and purple. Give us neons and pastels. Give us body glitter. Hell, get creative, give us a metallic robot skin with nuts and bolts?? The possibilities are literally endless. Put tags on those weird things all you want, but don’t put them on people’s actual real life skin tones. Do put them in the game, but don’t be so damn weird about it, it’s not hard to understand????
Well, they didn't really fuck up, technically, this game wasn't really made for Americans initially. It got ported over. All the default skins are technically Asian. Also, skin tones didn't used to be under accessories, but when they added new types of stuff they needed more room, and that's how it ended up there. Used to you used to have to scroll through that menu even outside of clothes, and it was kinda annoying, especially when you accidentally pressed the back button trying to scroll or select the bottom option..... The set up now is a lot better.
i.am.peachy tell me about it🤦🏻♀️ aren’t indians, Pakistanis and other Asians brown too? Do we have our own continent? No. We also belong to Asia. But it’s really bull crap to start with that Asia’s prime is only Chinese,Koreans etc. who have lighter skin. Don’t you recognise us people?
As an Indian LN player, my skin tone is more brown and in between the darker and lighter shades. I always try to make my character look like me, and it’s SO HARD to find makeup that matches my skin tone, and just not-white skin tones in general. I wish the game made them more available and easily accessible. I’ve definitely felt like some devs may be racist or colorist if all they’re thinking of is money or labeling skin an accessory when it comes to darker skin.
I feel scammed as well but at least they put the makeups along with a consumption event. It would have been even worse if they just gave them to us at random. Also remember that the original makeup costs diamonds so I don't know if it would be fair to players who spent diamonds on the suit. What I think they should've done is give players who have the makeup already the different color makeups but players who don't have the suit can get each for about 50 diamonds. But hey they did advertise all makeups as free so I get why people are mad.
I don’t think Star fantasy is suppose to be a part of the natural skin tones I think that one is a alien because she’s suppose to be like space themed
#earlybird My ThEoRy Is ThAt MoMo AnD sApPhiRe ArE wOrkiNg ToGeThEr To MakE uS sUfFeR!
But actually,they probably trying to make more money by making the makeups expensive so people would recharge to get it.
thx for being an early birb
Out of all the makeups they made the sapphire in colours too (i say colours cuz I swear I saw dark blue skin)
I 100% agree with you, if you already own the makeup you shouldn't have pay 900 diamonds just to own the alternate skins, also wow I never realized there were so few dark makeups! I'm v5 and I only have three!
All of this probably wouldn't be much of a problem if love nikki made faces transparent , I'm not sure how hard that'd be to do, but it seems like a simple solution
They're so expensive because LN devs picked make ups that cost diamonds which is disappointing. I'm not super upset about the ones that have been released costing diamonds because it makes sense for those particular make ups to cost what they do. But I think they could do some gold ones like Peach Sweatheart or make new ones entirely that don't cost diamonds/money that could be in the user shop. Tbh I really think they are making dark skinned make ups cost so much because of the high demand for them on our server which is frustrating. They are figuring people will want them anyway so might as well make money off it.
Totally on your side Effie! I mean yes, in the advertisement it said "free makeup >recipes
LN being racist? OMG that's impossible! (Sarcasm)
Most wasteland (pay attention to the name) suits are blonde white. Most suits are only pale skinned and not available for darker skins. Why?
If darker skins available pale skin, why wouldn't all pose suits be available in darker skin tones?
Also, most dark skin makeup have blue or green eyes, only one has brown eyes.
I was starting to question why Wasteland suits are all white instead of darker skintones, because it would fit a little bit better with the Theme :P
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Holy shit!!! One of the darker versions of moth is with the Star Fantasy Skin!!! I love that!! I really wanna use her skin with white/light hair cause love that contrast, but I hate the default makeup and the OG one doesn't fit the vibe, ya know?
I love your idea for making the recolors of the makeup more accessible and still fair. I mean, I paid for the original makeup with diamonds so that should be enough. I might crumble for the Moth to Fire recolors though because I love that makeup so much. TvT
#early birb! I thought they would be free if you already had the original makeup 😭
Honestly same, really sad that it isn't
@@FireFoxCamille the new make up being free is asking the devs to do all that work again for free. if i was easy for them to to do different skin tones we would have a lot more make ups buy now, especially for money. i could see them being a bit cheaper than the original, because the detail are done already and only the new base needs to be added. but i understand them being not free. honestly i wish they'd give/sell us more of the poses we already have in the skin tones we have. and split the tomes of make up in to separate categories so you don't have to dig through everything the darker ones
SAME IT'S a shame they decided to go on this path
Very good point, but it could at least be a bit cheaper T-T
I might be asking for much but I just really like them :)
I've never understood why the outfit skin doesn't change when you select the skin tone? Like you have to have a basic version of the outfit to use any other skin tone... That really limits darker skin tones and I really hope they change it 😣
I agree with you, it's ridiculously expensive to get them and YES the original makeup should be in the recipe instead!! It would make so much more sense.
Still sad these cost diamonds. Still bought one tho cause this is one of my absolute favorite makeups.
Also we're gonna get dark variations of moth to fire soon. I believe it's gonna be the exact same.
im still waiting them to add the colour sort....its way too freaking annyoing to scroll all the way down to the bottom when u want to use some old clothes
They should make all makeups with a transparent base, so they could work on all skin tones.
I don't understand why they made the recipes available for a limited time. couldn't they just have added them to the store of starlight or something? also, since they went through the effort of making the makeup in the different skin tones, I think they should've made the special pose available in the different skin tones too.
So, as a V0 player (I'm against using real money for this kind of games.I must resist!!!) I think spending SO MANY diamonds for this 3 make-ups isn't really worthy. I had to skip 3 events so I could save 2400 diamonds more or less (But with the cupid's outfit now I have only 1500 :,) ), and knowing that a HUGE hell event is coming I think is better to save up as much as I can so I can get at least one outfit.
It might make you feel even more motivated to stay v0 if you look up all the tricks unscrupulous microtransaction tricks games use. Like all the thousands of different currency types in order to prevent you from getting a good financial overview and disabling you from being able to save surplus currency.
Anyone knows if these dark makeups are going to return? I miss this for my old phone :(
I need Effie to take over as LN CEO and make all the changes people suggested in the comments come true!
I totally agree there is no enough inclusive makeup and the paywall around it is messed up
Notice how FIERCE these suits are, its a bad publicity stunt to lock the like 3 colored skin tones behind pay walls
Isn't the make up on the Shepard girl called "youth storm " or from the first free suit you get?
The only dark suit you forgot was the Modern Age suit where they remade the original in a darker skin tone. It costed real money, though.
I wonder why some of the dark skin tone makeups are limited, I feel like it’s unfair
I love your voice your so soothing and make me so happy!! i also love how you say Makeup it's so satisfying and cute X3 also i love your videos so much
Yas hates how they made the light skintone the default for some dark skin suits. It also applied to Attachment to Spectre for some reason
Thank u so much Effie for make this premier,it's a good chat
I love u so so much Effie,and I hope u enjoyed ur time😘
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Woah. It would be so cool if we could craft different colour skin tones like red or pink. Ok now I think about it I don’t think so.
As someone who loves creating fantasy characters like orcs, dark elves and much more, I would love to be able to create a skin that is lavender or emerald and so on. Though it would have to be in a system where all the makeups don't include any face skin color.
@@Call-me-Al There's a lucky bag we haven't gotten where the skin is kinda lavenderish. I'm excited for it. But as stated it's a lucky bag (probably 50+ bucks) idk if the skin will be distributed for free or you have to get the suit to get the skin (like attachment of specter, the most forgotten skin in game, change my mind)
@@kld8206 i love that ghost skin! I was super envious of my boyfriend when he got it. But they released that suit for crafting the day before today IIRC!!! Gonna cost a lot of diamonds but at least it is attainable now. I already started crafting parts of the suit. The skin (and the makeup) is my only reason for wanting to craft such an expensive suit.
I really hope they will release that future lavender skin for free.
Something they should do is just put the make up on a transparent png or jpeg so that it can work with all skin tones, it’s a really simple solution and it’s pretty annoying
I thought this game was awesome before I saw how poorly the dark skin was implemented. If the devs originally structured this game so that dark skninned avatars were also dolls that worked with poses and makeup instead of simple overlays they would have had my whole pay check. When I first saw that dark skin didn't work with 90% of the cool stuff it broke the illusion.
Just make the makeup translucent LN!!
If they had them as completion rewards, then for those who don't have the suit, they'd have to craft the entire suit to get them, which would cost even more diamonds.
I own almost none of the dark skin make up we have available to get right now cause I'm not gonna craft a suit only for the make up that's usually a completion prize.
Almost 1k for all of those makeups we just got is laughable.
Moth to fire should require the original makeup to craft the different skin tone ones, since you need almost the entire suit to do so.
I mean it's fair that they're the exact same price to craft as the original makeup but they just never mentioned that. They said that they were recipes, not free makeups. And since the original makeup required diamonds, then this one does too.
not quite right the thing is, why don’t they release dark skin tones makeups for the cheaper/free makeups we got? There are so many of them, and they would be easily accessible
@@donkeykong3628 That would be fair, and if they put them as rewards for completing newer suits then that'd work too, like for Street Extreme, not that they can do that for suits with already established rewards but they can do it for new suits that they make.
As long as they don't just release DST versions of the makeups that cost diamonds to craft, I think it'll be fine.
0:27 What pieces are these from?
I’m worried that moth to flame darker skins might only be available if you get the original suit cus moth to flame is only available after getting most of her suit...
Love nikki needs a trading system for all the items especially makeup
I'm late and you probably won't respond but I have Mighty Milky Way and I never could figure out how to get the skintone for it and I just was wondering how.
It kinda sucks LN always puts so much emphasis on, hey look, we have dark makeup and sikn tones, but they're so expensive to make, or buy. Also, congratulations on 16K bb💜.
I feel like there should be a model settings button on the dress up screen. The menu the button leads to lets you change the skin color and it doesn't count towards your style score. And the makeups are transparent, so they work with every skin tone.
For Star Fantasy, her skin is weird because I'm pretty certain she's an alien or something like that, so the gray-black skin made sense to me-even the makeup.
I keep wondering why they can't have the make-up not have a skin tone, so it could work with any of them.
Well i for one agree because it rly adds up to being expensive and if they want more equally they rly shouldnt put a pay wall
he devs started skin tomes because we harassed them in to it, not because they wanted more equality. i was there on the face book page when there was a post asking for more skin tones every other day.
Yeah but the point of having more skin tone makeup is for more equality and diversity regardless if certain players are being the way they are and it could cause a problem if they put a pay wall if they are trying to help fix this problem....sure this one you can craft and still spend diamonds, unlike the other ones that even im not up for spending diamonds to complete a suit i dont want which is unfair
@@selyinsanitysin5095 ya i agree on the event ones, i forgot about all the exclusive ones that wont be back i also find it off putting that they only made available the makeup for the suit. i want the old poses to work with the skin tones as well. the make make up one of the last thing you the in an event alot. even the white tone.
In Ln I have problems getting skin tones that I am or prefer but they're so hard to get!!(The makeup)Don't get me started on posed suits!! I want to use a different tone like, Hot beat and the makeup Milky way! I thought it would look gorgeous on the suit Psalm of time But NO! I CANT USE IT ;-; And Ln please stop tagging darker skin tones as "ethic" or "Sexy" I'm pretty sure tons of people can agree on that!
Early birb💖🐦 tbh I don't think its unfair, because they're the exact same price as the original one
🐦 thx for being an early birb
If we already paid for the original we shouldn’t have to pay for the recolors, i am a paying player and i don’t think this is a fair move
@@LoveEffie yes actually, that makes better sense, it'd be better if you'd get them in the mailbox if u already had the original one
I would like to have skintones variations with poses too.((
the dark makeups cost exactly the same to craft as the original, i dont see how thats unfair
It's unfair because they kinda advertised it as a free gift. So many people were excited for DARK SKINNED MAKEUPS. Some people just want something either cheap or free to just do a cute look with a dark skin, it's already unfair for poc who don't have enough content in the game, and then to hype something up just to kinda be like "Oh yeah, it's your fault for assuming" is kinda... Shitty.
@@Sapphire_Kitty yes, the recipes are free. passing the 9 days they give us to claim them for free they going to cost coins or diamonds plus the materials.
@@Sapphire_Kitty i understand your opinion, this is just mine
v what the people below are saying, and also, it'd be nice if you could just 1) recolor the original 2) craft it with the original as part of it so u still need to spend dias to get the original but free for the different tones
we got baited :( it kinda goes against their motives of being "inclusive"
The thing that is annoying is that I have the original makeup anyway, so why can't I have the dark skin ones as well? Let alone ~1000 dias!! It doesn't make any sense...
Tbh why are makeups not just.. eyes and lips on a TRANSPARENT png that is just pasted onto skin so that all makeups work with all skins. Same with clothes. Making it so that all skintones work with all suits (yes, even posed) isnt hard AT ALL
How do you get nikki to pose different???
The thing is why is it advertisee as free?
Exactly same thoughts. I would have no problems with crafting the original if I can then get recolors. But not like this.
How do u get hot beat skin it says it is unavailable!!
completed that angel cupid suit by making the 3 makeups ✌️😗
They should make a more cheaper event for the V0 player like me because I have 2 hell event suites that I was almost able to finish, and I don’t know when I will be able to finish them. Plus, most of the none hell events that come up I can never finish! It would be a miracle if there was an event that cost less than the normal diamond count for the events.
True because if you are V0 you have so many limitations
they need to stop that its ruddddddde
LMAO RIGHT!
I hate when moth to fire dsts came out they added an item you could craft for dias(the mask) and then added cloud lady rather than the original makeup being the ONLY dia item plus non dia items.
So I feel like all posed suits should have the option of being a different skin color. I know they can do it what with those one suits that change with the day night cycle.
I only have the space Barbie makeup and youth storm from this video
I got them all LN Take my overtime money.Why not?🤷♀️ and then on top of that give us a hell event the cherry on the cake🤦🏻♀️......... I hope you're having a beautiful day so far ❤
it's always a beautiful day when i get to your commnet. i LOVE YOU~ hey at least you spent 1k~ so that means u got the cupid suit too :)
@@LoveEffie I couldn't help myself the Cupid suit is so cute🥰 God why I am so weak🤦🏻♀️ .....😊
I'm so hyped for the moth to fire makeup, I use it all the time so I'd love to have it with dark skin tones! If it is a dia based crafting I'll just save it for another dia spending event.
Could a possible reason be racism? Asian countries are historically Xenophobic and favor pale faces because a more aristocratic aesthetic.
If the original makeup cost dias to craft, it should cost dias to craft the darker skintones. It would be illogical for the other skintones to be free. The only other logical option is to "dye" the original makeup though it would consume the original makeup like with all other clothes if you only have 1 of the item.
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Looool the thumbnail though XD
Also the darker skin tones in the game are chalky has hell, idk of its me but it feels like the all have grey undertones :(
I'm personally mad that the made the makeup cost so much dias I mean like what with V0 people that can't get easily dias like a V10 for example.....
Do we even have a black boy in the game??
The recipes should have just been the og makeup and the corresponding skin tone tbh.
Hope I can make it
Your video's are really cool 😀😀😀
#earlybrib hey i love your videos Effie! ♡
thanks 🐦 i saw you in the premier
@@LoveEffie Anytime ! ♥
I hope I will be there when premiere starts
HOPE SO TOO