How to hold a dart! THE GRIP!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
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A request was made for a video about the basics of a grip. Here are my thoughts of the basics of holding a dart, where to hold the dart and how firm to grip!
Disclaimer - All darts players should hold the darts however feels most natural and most comfortable! These tips are advisory for those looking to get the basic elements right!
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@Gregory Braylen i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im trying it out atm.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
By farrrrrr the best breakdown for a beginner on TH-cam!! Thanks so much!
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I watched a few other videos on the basics of how to throw a dart and none of them put all the basics together in an easy to understand format. Some split up the process in three videos while others just didn't explain anything well. This is an excellent basic tutorial and I appreciate it.
Best video on youtube. The bit about having a locked wrist I think will help me. Thanks for the video
Thank you. Glad it was helpful Douglas. 👍🎯
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By far the BEST video about darts there is on youtube! Thank you so much.
I started playing darts 30 days ago as a bloody beginner and set myself a challenge of playing 90 minutes a day and track some basic game stats as benchmarks. Got pretty desperate after i had minimal to no improvement.
The good darts got better but i had zero consistency. At least one of the three darts felt completely random. I dont know what my grip was... If you could call it a grip anyway. As everybody told me it has to be my grip since i picked the dart up like this...
After watching this video and applying your tips i had waaay better grouping of my darts after just 30 min of practice. It feels much more controlled. Makes me happy :)
I agree with everybody else. This is a good video. You explain it well. My game has improved greatly. I went from throwing 30 to 40s to '90s to 120 in about 6 months. Thanks to you! Thank you. Keep it up. Make more videos. I'm learning a lot from you
I know my issue now I flick my wrist every throw it just feel natural coming from basketball. Pretty much the opposite to darts where I need to lock it. I tried now but it feels so weird and unnatural just gotta get through it . Lovely video !
Thank you sooooo much fr this. I adapted my throw ad have a similar( not exact) stance, grip and arm action as you. After about 3 days my average climbed from 33-36 to about 60!! (Seriously, 58-60!) I can hit trebles with much better consistency than ever before. Been playing about 7 months and have battled frustration and disappointment. This grip and swing have made me love darts more than I thought possible. I still suck at doubles but I'll take whatever I can get. Baby steps!! Thanks again!!!
AWESOME! it's all about finding out what works best for you, but using some basic solid technical foundations to support your throw! Glad you're seeing some improvements! 👍🎯
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Amazing. First grip instruction that I could relate to. I’m a noob dart player (3 months). I took your instructions for 20 minutes and was awed. I played a practice game of cricket of 1 dart per number. I went around the board until the dreaded bull. Took me 4 throws to get it. Thanks for the vid.
The tips and technique you offer were similar to many others I have watched... but you do it more clearly than many others. Cheers!
Hey thank you, i had a mini stroke, I've had to teach myself how to type and play guitar over again, when i picked up a dart i sent it flying into the ceiling and could not hit the board, i decided to try with my left hand, after watching you my accuracy is blowing my mind, I'm about as good as i ever was with my right hand, i still battle hitting the 1 while throwing at 20s, but I'm starting to think it's more mental, many thank yous
Really appreciate this breakdown. I'm a living room darter and have to remind myself how to get back to basics every so often. This video really helps remind me to start simply. Thank you!
My natural way to hold the dart had my palm more facing the board. I noticed most pros have their palm facing more upward. I improved quite a bit when I made this change and my follow through became more consistent . With my palm facing the board I had to use arm and should more to propel the dart...palm up ,my arm is quiet and the wrist pronation follow through is the majority of what i need to propel the dart
Nice video mate. Love the shading in something with a pen analogy 👍 very informative. Thanks for taking the time. Appreciated.
Thank you so much for the tip of the locked wrist. That one really was gold to me! 👍😉
Just watched this video... Followed the advices given and found my grip style.
Thanks a bunch for posting this video. Much appreciated. 👍😊
Just to echo loads of other comments, this is by far the best video on youtube covering all aspects of the grip. Just wished I had found this first before sitting through all the others!!
Just subscribed, great content. I’ve replayed some of your videos as a refresher. I like that you’re concise and thorough. Keep your videos coming!
Thanks Gabriel. Glad you like it! Great to have you here 👍🎯
Appreciate this video! Just getting back into darts and my grip had changed from 2 fingers on the barrel in my past, to the pencil grip you just showed us. I was torn trying to use my old 2 finger grip clumsily, when now the dart falls naturally into my hand exactly as you demonstrated. So thanks to you I'm no longer undecided on my grip, but will now try to perfect the pencil grip. Thanks again!
Thank you bud. Whatever you change, stick with it for a while before changing again. Don't scramble your brain
I have been playing darts for many years. I have found that a two finger grip keeps the dark flying straight. I take aim and bring my hand shortly backwards, then gently push the dart towards the board. Make allowances for the dart to slightly drop.
Great video! Thanks so much for the tip on locking the wrist, I wasn't doing this and wondered why I was being inconsistent. I've since kept my wrist locked abd scoring has drastically improved. Thank you!
I noticed there's a whipping action to your throw. I had a similar throw and I started developing elbow issues. by following through with my throw all the way down to my torso I reduced the abrupt arrest of my arm's momentum and the stresses on my joints and tendons.
That's actually a very good point! I'm now wondering how the pros prevent joint damage, similar to Tennis elbow etc.
I WAS ALWAYS TOLD TO TRY TO KEEP YOUR ARM AND ELBO VERY STEADY ON RELEASE AND FOLLOW THROUGH BUT WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR ELBO IT MOVES UP WARD ALOT WHEN YOU RELEASE SO I THINK I BEEN SO FOCUSED ON THAT I THINK ITS MAKING ME INCONSISTANT THANKS FOR VIDEO
Amazing video. Looking forward to being better through this channel
I watched this video earlier this year when I came back to throwing after a 35-year gap, ahahahah. Somehow, I ended up with a grip I knew wasn't right but started throwing well (all things relative, lol). Now I have been trying to get a better grip and when I happened on this video again, I immediately watched it paying much better attention. I'm ready to head to the bar and throw a few! I have a bye this week and want to improve as much as I can this next week, week and a half before I play in the local league again 🤞 Thanks for the pointers!
I never even thought about my wrist, I've always used it as that's just what I thought you did lol
How long have you played to not think about your wrist? I try to account for everything.
I'm about a 60 average player but to be honest not really thought about how hard to grip before................just that I have very dry hands and need a grippy dart. Picked myself up a set of Harrows Elite a couple of days ago as they have a bulbous bit I can push against to aid my grip. Took your advice and hold them with a slightly lighter grip and feels better straight away. Won 2 games in a row on webcamdarts with about 62 average in each match. Cheers
Great stuff. It might not work for everyone but a more relaxed loose grip eliminates dragging the dart a lot 👍🎯
I always grip the dart with my thumb, indexfinger and middle finger. I'll try this out next time
Nice, now I do understand why the grip of some pros looks so weird on camera, especially Gerwin Price. I started to grip my darts from the side with 3 or 4 fingers because they fall naturally in that position when I do roll them between my fingers. But they would wobble and hit the board all over the place. The pencil grip feels totally weird in the hand when I pick up a dart. But standing in front of the board and actively analyzing my throw I can understand now how it works...👍
Maybe it feels so weird because pencils have a way larger diameter than tungsten darts. For me it is definitely something I have to get used to.😇
Clear instructions good job lad best darts channel for this sort of thing
Thank you Derek 👍🎯
Thank you, new player here and this was a big help, I am struggling with consistency.
Very helpful. I will try to follow these tips at my next dart league night.
Beginning 😊at veteran's club, thx for dart tips for beginners, very well explained.
Loving your explanations, well described and understandable to a layman who is just starting out. Keep up the great work
Thank you John, appreciate you kind words
@@DartsClass I am one of those laymans trying to get back into it. Need a lot of practise then try and be able to throw straight (sick of getting 26) :). Your videos are helping a lot....I clearly need to tweak my throw more
Baby steps is the way forward, there's not real cheat aside from practice. I may live stream a practice on here later, so if you're interested you can see what I do, and ask any questions etc
How do you determine what type of dart weight and balance you are best suited for?
Great video. Glad you didn't say "What ever feels.compfoetable". That doesn't help beginners like myself. Though I did figured "Hold it like a pen" thing out. I think it would be clearer if people say "Hodl it like a pen you are passing to someone". If you hold.it like a pen you a writing with its a totally different hold. Your thumb will point forward which makes it difficult to caulk you wrist and aim. Today I start led holding it like a pen I was passing. It was a game changer. I could lock my wrist and even aim easier.
You mentioned a locked wrist. Can you please demonstrate how the wrist is aligned with the point of the dart and in which position the wrist should be locked in place in relation to how your forearm is facing the board! Cheers. Love the content
Hi Bryan, absolutely. Its hard to demonstrate written down. If you join one of my live streams and comment in the chat I'll show you so I can stand front on to the camera 👍🎯
@@DartsClass Sure that sounds great! When do you usually live stream? In Canada here, so gotta figure out difference in time. Cheers
I do it Wednesday nights (one tonight) 8pm GMT (in about 50 minutes) and then Saturday afternoons approximately 3pm GMT 👍🎯
@@DartsClass Awesome! Thanks for the info! Will try to catch today's stream. If not definitely on Saturday!
One little detail. Try to have no muscle tension in the last two fingers. This usually means they're sitting outward (not circled under)
Should you be using steel or soft tip darts? I know almost all pubs have soft tip machines. Most tournaments are the sme.
Great video. Think I need to go back to basics as although averaging 58 which is ok I’m very erratic and my grip is very unorthodox. Can I ask question about what weight darts should be using please?
Great video. What type of barrel suits this style of grip please!?
Thank for making this video i was always locking my wrist thanks for the video😊😊😊
Should I be spinning the dart off my fingers or try to keep it in a fixed position through the air?
First thank you for your time and I’m just trying to correct my through around my town is small so most people play for $5$10 $15 or $20 dollars but just want to at least be some kind of competition!.
Brilliant! Some really great tips and explained really simply and in no nonsense terms. Great job! 👍
Thank you. It is important to remember that holding a dart should be done as naturally as possible, but hopefully there is some info in here for beginners to know where to start! Thanks for your support!
I don’t think it’s just for beginners. It is always good for seasoned player to look at their throw and see if there are bad habits they have got into or areas to improve. 👍
The best tip I can give to beginners is to find where you can balance the dart in your index finger finding the center of gravity , and that’s where you hold it, keeps the dart straight in flight, as you play more you can find what works for you but it’s good to start there
How important do you think it is that the thumb needs to be under the barrel facing the way it does in all the examples of the pros?
I throw exactly like Gary Anderson, noting textbook but work wonderfully for me also for Gary
Totally newbie here, locking the wrist makes sense, in terms of repeatability, however, sitting here in my couch trying it (without a dart, I have no board yet....;- ), I feel that the wrist HAS to unlock when throwing the dart, and I think that I see You do the same in the slow motion....?
- Any way, thanks for sharing....!!!
Excellent video, I've been struggling with consistency. I've played darts for years but have been totally self taught. I adjusted my grip, started practicing and within a day, my consistency improved dramatically. It was scary to adjust my grip but this video was so well done, it made it easy and gave me the confidence to try. That you very much.
Glad it was helpful! Keep at it!
fantastic video. packed full of super useful information.. thank you so much.
I've been playing at home for over 14 years how do i stop hitting 3 treble 5 3 treble 1 no joke had moor of them than the elusive 180s lol good vid mate 🎯👍
I wonder if it's possible to see some slow motion breakdown of what is happening on the throw?
Thank U! From Egypt!
Do you spin the dart at all when you throw it? If some spin the dart when throwing is this done by the majority of dart throwers?
Good tips again! :) I hold a pen just like you hold a dart but it does not feel as natural when I hold a dart so it changes a little to more of a fingertips pinch grip which I dont advise people to do as it can cause the dart to rock on the thumb and release at weird angels but its the only way that feels comfortable for me sadly lol
I'd like to know about soft tip darts. I've been throwing 95% tungsten with medium spinners and hard plastic flights. I recently tried throwing 16 gr short shaft short tip and saw a remarkable increase in accuracy. I'm 5 11 and weigh 230. It's the first time I've tried throwing 16 gr shorter days, 5 inches tip to end of flight. Ideas? Suggestions?
So I'm pretty good average a 3 in cricket and about a 27 in 01 should I change my throw completely or stay the way I throw currently.
Cool Video👍🏻 Hard to get all your nice accent down from Switzerland here😉 but your tip about locked wrist is prizeless to me👍🏻👌🏻 looking forward My First turnament as an amateur in spring. always around the triple20, implement Lots of Inputs in My game so far, worked pretty well so far and now i feel i should get more tripples but it stagnates by „Neal by“😤 recognized in My aming that i pull My wrist back to hard instand of locking it in. I‘m sure your tip is My missing puzzle😉👍🏻👌🏻
Thx a lot and game on🎯✌🏻
I can't hold a dart or a pen that way. If you move your fingers away will the dart be balanced on your thumb?
What about weight. I just set up a board. I have to identical darts ( thinner barrel ) and one thicker barrel. besides just getting the feel of the dart or darts, Is there a specific weight I should be using according to my body type? I weigh 225 lbs. 6 ft.
Not necessarily any reason for the weight you use apart from personal preference. If you 'float' the dart in you may want a slightly heavier dart to ensure they go firmly into the board. Most people when they start out tend to be most comfortable somewhere between 23-27 grams 👍
I've been throwing off my middle finger rather than my index finger from day one, I never took darts to seriously but I've always been decent, I recently realized I've been gripping fundamentally wrong, it's a nightmare trying to change
I would like some advice on my grip and throw with some mild arthritis to have more accuracy. I shoot with 24g darts, please help me, Ty.
Any tips for a players who holds a dart with his index , middle and ring finger on the barrel on the middel of the barrel. ( I do put a little light pressure ). I feel it’s kinda like Peter wright throw or something like that.
What advice do you have for right handed and left eye dominant (left foot dominant too - that is the foot I lead with)? Great video!
My natural grip of a dart is to have my two main fingers on the barrel and then to have the ring finger on the point to help with stability in my hand. I understand there isn’t much right or wrong but what do people think of this grip?
Nothing wrong with that. I used to throw like that, the finger on the point makes it more stable when you're aiming it, just remember to pull that finger away on your back swing or it might over complicate your release if you have to get the timing of an extra release finger right! 👍
@@DartsClass Okay, I'll consider that. Thank you
Hello friend as everyone knows darts game is a game of calculations and mathematics wright but what are those multiplications mostly used those ×2 and ×3 am i correct please?
Cheers thks for sharing mate.
Good information! My question is, you said the wrist must remain locked. And used the pros to illustrate that. It appears that MVG very much breaks his wrist in the extension. In fact, his hand and wrist move up and down like he’s waving.
You're correct. However the break in the wrist comes immediately at / after the point of release to ensure a solid follow through. You can try introducing this to your throw to help reinforce a strong follow through, but the break of the wrist isn't essential. Many pros do it though 👍🎯
So what type of barrel should we choose?
Would this apply to left handed people?
Greetings from Oregon!
I’ve enjoyed your videos. You have great tips. I’m pretty much new to darts, a darts Newb, if you will. Since I’ve started after lockdowns and isolation began I’ve only played alone. I’m trying to track my progress by keeping track of statistics such as averages.
How do you calculate in a horrible game that you can’t seem to double out? Against an opponent, the game would be over before too long even if I can’t buy a double. Would you put a limit on throws? What limit would you suggest to me as a beginner, 40 darts? 45? 50? None? An unending nightmare of a game can destroy my average. I’m reluctant to buy a computer program where I can play against a machine. (At least until I can see if I have any potential.) I’m averaging about 50 points a throw after a month of trying out different grips and darts. After “the new normal,” I have a hope of starting a darts club in my town, but a few terrible games out of a dozen discourage me from feeling like I’ve had any progress. Thanks for any advice you can offer me. Keep the videos coming. They’re great.
Hi Bruce. Good to hear you've got into darts.
At the start of your darts journey I would avoid thinking too much about your average at all, as like you say, a bad leg or two can destroy your average, and with that your confidence and derail Amy progress you're making.
My advice would be to pick a number of darts that you think is about your rough average to finish a leg. So let's say 42. That's 14 visits to the oche to checkout 501. If you do it in less than 42 you win the leg, if you still haven't in 42 you lose the leg. Play a race to 6 legs against yourself that way. Once you start winning more than you lose, move your target to be one turn harder, so checkout in 39 or lose the leg. Before you know it you'll be hitting 30 dart legs easy.
Don't let awful legs at double discourage you from joining a local league. The sooner you play competitively, no matter what your standard is, the sooner you'll improve. I've been playing for years but still have the odd game where for some reason I just can't hit the double!
@@DartsClass Thanks for the quick response. Your sound advice seems way less frustrating, more fun. Fun is good!
Following through after release i find important as well. Great tips though
100%, I have a video on that too 👍🎯
It’s impossible to tell someone how to hold a dart, everyone is different. That said, not gripping too hard is very good advice.
All the top players grip very similar so if you want to get good its probobly best to look at how they are doing it.
@@linetiilikainen2755 I think there is still a lot of different grip types with the top pros. Front, rear, fingers on the point. What I’m saying is - you’ve got to start of gripping as feels natural to you, then work from there.
@@willwc2415 I agree with you. You have to try different things but stick to what feels natural, because every body is built differently. Some might even experience pain if they throw just like MVG or Wright. Just keep throwing the darts in a way that is pain-free and natural and build in that muscle memory.
I place my thumb on the balance point. Is that good or bad?
As the realse of the dart. Do you spin the dart i dart so in flight its spinning, or just a straight flight
I spin the dart back into my grip on the pull back, then push it out on release. Neither is right or wrong, but I find more control my way, but sometimes have better grouping if I spin on release
I’m left handed but right eye dominant, how do u suggest I throw?
Well said..😊
What kind of dart you used?look pretty nice!!!...
In the early videos I am using Harrow Torpedos
What grams?
These ones are 26g, I now use 24g 👍
hiw about the flight position. should the flights be rotated to x or + position just before the throw? from what I can see you have your darts flights in + position. thx
Excellent program! 🎯
Dear darts class, when i throw my dart sometime doesnt make the board, i'm not weak but i dont have the rist strength. what am i doing wrong. Very frustrating
I deal with a lot of things at work that dry out my hands, when I try and practice after work, I cannot get a good feel of the darts at all, regardless if I use my high grip level darts or my medium level grip. They feel the same. What advice would you have for someone with this problem of constantly having dry hands? Lotion just takes forever to dry, and it feels like I cannot get a good feel for the dart after the lotion dries.
Does your thumb go straight down barrel in a line
Thanks for the tips
great channel and great tipps! Whats your avg? :)
Thank you Semin. Usually around the 70-75 mark. 👍🎯
I grip 2 fingers and thumb but it’s causing issue at minute my 3rd finger it dosent feel natural and affecting my release I’ve been trying different kind of grips for 6 months now and I’m really struggling
I'm a beginner,my grip is 3fingers I tried to copy this grip but I can't actually do this:( I'm bad at aiming,I try to hit triple20 but I only got triple1:( please give me some advice.
Thanks for the video it helpt a lot
I'm a yank ( more ways than one) . Going to throw my 1st dart at 57 at a bar with some real Richard heads . Thank you ol chap. I have a chance now very informative.. hear hear. God save the king. Is in order.
What is the best way to hit a 180 in darts
I know everyone is different and this maybe a silly question but how do you aim your darts?
Not a silly question at all. I talk about it a bit in my video on Dartitis. Aiming the dart has a few main principles, the first is having the dart in the line of sight to the target, therefore you should have the dart in your forward facing peripheral vision. Your focus should be on your target on the board, not on the dart itself, but ensure your dart is in your out of focus peripheral vision, your pull back should be as straight as possible with a direct lever effect forwards, with an arm extended towards the target when it's finished. Have a look at one of my earliest videos about the extension of the arm and that gives a clearer more concise guide to aiming and hitting the target 👍🎯
@@DartsClass many thanks for your reply, believe it or not, I played super league darts back in the late 70's, I used to aim with my point, but as the years have rolled by my eyesight isn't the same lol having just got the bug again to play, I have started from scratch! I must admit that sound's a far better way, thank you.
Did you delete the arm video you mentioned? I can't find it.
Which darts are you playing with?
In this video I was using the Harrow Torpedo 26 gram darts - I now use Robert Thornton 24gs
All about comfort and personal choice
Do you offer virtual lessons?
Enjoyed the video very informative.
Ty very much im struggling i think this will help
I have a question. Been playing again after years of not picking up a dart. But if I throw naturally, the dart always ends up around the double 20 area. I can't generate much power and I feel like I always have to hold back when throwing especially in the lower numbers. Wich clearly doesn't help the consistency. Anyone got an idea why this could be?
Very useful
I have been trying all sorts of grip technique and just don't seem to get it right, my darts are getting worse, any suggestions
With the tumb and index finger whatever feels good, with middelfinger make it so that it keeps the point in the good direction. U could also use 4 or even 5 fingers to make it even more stable. The reason many dartplayers hold the middelfinger at the point or the end of the point is so that its always at the exact same place. Helps for consistency.
Great Video! You‘re the first person I saw having the exact same grip as me! What darts do you use? Cheers
In this video I was using Harrows Torpedos 👍🎯
Same haha I’ve never seen anyone hold it exactly the same as me I’m surprised
Great video very helpful 👍
Cheers Jack
I'm not a serious player. Until recently, I hadn't thrown a dart in at least 10 years. To make a baseball analogy, my unconventional grip and release would be like holding a bat upside down. Are there any well known, successful players who have unconventional grips?
These are good tips. I'll try to practice throwing a dart correctly.
Hi. There are loads of unconventional darts grips out there. This throw just seems to be typical for the majority of pros.
Some of the more unconventional grips and throws you may want to look at are:
Mensur Suljovic
Simon Whitlock
Mervyn King.
Adrian Lewis
Most of these use parts on conventional technique but spiral the dart to propel it through the air 🎯
Been throwin since '78 and can verify these basics. Almost everyone throws with a little arc. Do not frustrate yourself by trying to throw flat (deadstroking) at first, just control the arc. When Van Gerwin throws a T80, his darts are tailed up.