I love my Z6, but every now and then I think the Z50 would be great just to get to use the two DX lenses. Even more so than the 24-50mm, they strike me as terrific compact zooms. Certainly a great kit for someone who wants a lightweight travel package.
It's nice to hear how a pro actually chooses gear. While specs are important often it is more about how the gear fits one's work flow and if there are any specific features that are very important for one's work flow. Interestingly I was recently talking to a pro I know who switched to Fuji from Canon. His switch was driven more by the Fuji being a better fit than any particular issue with Canon. I have been shooting APS-C for many years now and have gotten use to the improved reach of APS-C cameras over full-frame. Though I can see some situations were a full-frame might be a better fit for me, mostly for improved bokeh. I currently use a Z50 and plan to use it as my main camera for the near term. Though if a Z50 II is released with IBIS I would probably get one.
To be fair to this camera, I don’t think it was ever intended to service a working professional. It was meant to be for enthusiasts who are just entering the mirrorless world. So for the vast majority of people who do not intend to spend a lot of money to buy a full frame camera, this would be a sound choice.
Hey Matt, I like my Z50 as a replacement for my iPhone. The compact kit lens, small body, APS-C sensor are a huge step up from a cell phone. Much better quality, great for candid street shots. I still use my cell phone for photographing documents, or anything non-photogenic that I need to document. GDAY!
Tamron lenses stabilization and AF works well on Z50, i have 24-70 2.8 G2 on z50 for video, battery is an issue, hope they release same version that is usb rechargeable.
A couple months after I got my Z6, sold an absolutely stunning Tamron SP 35 mm F1.8 which did not work with Z mount yet. Of course 3 weeks later they came out with the firmware update after the sale! Bought another one, updated firmware with great results. I hear a lot of the Sigma Art series is Z compatible, just some of the Tamron SP's. Nikkor Z glass is wonderful, but please don't discount others. That 35mm was awesome on my D810, exceptionally good VR and very sharp optics.
I think the Z50 is a great camera for a lot of people, especially for those who buy their first camera, but for your use case it's understandable that you want more interchangeabilty. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@MattIrwinPhotography Really hate this kind of spam. It appears under many of my old comments. They have 2 accounts, one pretending to ask for help, and the other one recommending him a site. Spammers are getting creative.
I was so happy I chose the Z50 as my first camera to get away from the 'point and shoots'. Its a great camera to learn photography on and I've had a blast using it to explore all the photography styles. The 24-70 f/2.8 lens makes the Z50 punch far above its weight class. That said, my Z6 II should be arriving today. Though I don't have the legacy issues that you have, the short comings you brought up are similar to what I've found. I'd like to try tethering, which the Z50 can not do. The low light could be better and the focusing is not as quick as the full frames. But it was through the Z50 that I found out what I was looking for, and if I had gone with the Z6 originally, I would not have been able to spring for the stellar 24-70 lens f/2.8, or other gear as quickly as I have. I'll be holding on to the Z50 as it still makes for a great ECD camera. As usual, your thoughts and experience are a great help and your positive attitude a joy to observe.
I bought the Z50 because of the smaller size so I can use it for holliday and b camera. But I’m loving it so much that I use it sometimes as my main camera when I don’t need super dof.
I wasn't supposed to keep mine as I was just trying mirrorless while waiting for the Z5 and Z6II to be released. I ended retuning the full kit to buy it without the 50-250. I wasn't a fan of how often I had to switch away from the 50-250 on DX. 250mm was enough for a decent handheld moon photo though. Luckily, I landed the 24-200 when it came out.
I’m much more comfortable taking my Z50 travelling over my FF Z cameras, not only for size but also for cost. I’m a lot less paranoid about it getting damaged or stolen.
Agreed - Its the little things in life that make all the difference. I really miss the buttons on my D850 and D500 cameras on the Z cameras. XQD rules - No more crappy SD cards please. The older z6 is now selling for less than AU$2000 - much better value. One Z50 advantage - it uses the ML-L3 remote trigger...
Great video, well laid out case. I have a Z6 and am considering a Z50 for a very different use case. With a high-quality 20 megapixel sensor and a 1.4 crop it makes an ideal tele range extension for travel photography. If I pop on my 100-400 lens it bumps it up to 150-600 equivalent at less cost, size and weight than purchasing and carrying a 200-500 mm lens or 150-600 lens. I could throw a Z50 in my bag with my full frame kit, and gain more range in my lenses at little extra cost. In addition, with the kit lens, I’d have a great light-weight package for walking around with.
Same. That’s what I use mine (Z50) for now. Picked up a Z6II and have been loving every second of use. The kit 50-250 doubles to 75-375 and that little 20mp sensor is no slouch. Plus throwing right into the jacket or hoodie pocket is a big bonus instead of wearing two straps over shoulder or neck.
As a pro it makes sense for you to go that way. For someone like me who can only use one hand to shoot the smaller size makes sense as does the lower price . I don’t do video so no problem for me
Z50 is a great little camera. It does a lot of things really well but like Matt said, it depends on use and if you want to have the same system throughout. I’ve recently picked up a Z6 and was very taken back by the quality of the sensor with the 35mm. I’d love to see what the 85 S looks like with the Z6. I’m going to end up keeping the Z50 and use my 70-200 on it to compress background and get a nice DoF. The full frame look sticks out when you compare files side by side.
I have the Z50 and z7. I love my z50 as it's really easy to take with me and if I lose it I don't really care. The z7 comes out when I am going out to shoot specifically with my camera bag. I will keep it for size weight and it takes amazing pictures.
@@jmlr2011 compared to z7 with 24 to 70 2.8, A used z50 goes for not much over $600, which is less than most decent phones, so i will not lose too much sleep if it was lost. Obviously I would be very sad
@@Alex-zq2yx I get the Z6II and Z7II not having a flip screen since they are more professional cameras, which usually don't require this feature. But the Z5 should have a flip screen, because many pros like a B-cam and then they want a flip screen.
DX is not without reason. The larger depth of field is an objective advantage (only subjectively do we 'like' shallow depth of field). Whenever you need things in focus, like macro photography, it's easier with a DX sensor camera. In low light situations you also don't have to stop down as much. It also looks more natural in video. Cinema films have been shot 'cropped' - on 35 mm film but rotated 90 ° - for a century. The crop factor also means you get more reach for wildlife photography. A Z 500 with in-body stabilisation could actually be an amazing camera.
For video you have the full DX option on the Z6. 4k full frame and 4k with crop. Main reason I prefer the Z6 over the Z7. Wonder if the new Z6II still has that feature?
Sensor size does not effect depth of field - only distance and aperture do. Nearly all crop sensors have poorer low light performance. Video is better on DX because the resolution is closer to 4k. I do like my D500 as a backup for wildlife (when I can start again). A Z500 would be great. The Z50 doesn't cut it...
@@roybixby6135, of course sensor size does effect depth of field since obviously you will be using wider lenses to get the same composition. An FX size sensor might have a little bit better low light performance, but then you have to stop down more to get the same depth of field which negates this advantage.
I used a D7000 for years, which was a phenomenal camera! Then I used a D750, and now the Z5. I considered the Z6 however video is not my game and SD cards don't scare me :) I have to say I'm not a pixel peeper but I do believe the Z5 out shoots the D750! The IBIS is excellent too. Great video Matt :)
You hit on a lot of points that makes my Z50 seem less appealing (even compared to my D5600). Hopefully Nikon listens to objective photographers like you and adds a D500 equivalent (Z70?) with IBIS that opens opens up all the best Z glass for low light, portrait, action, and wildlife situations.
I will be buying a Z50 to replace my slowly retiring d5200, once I find one at a good price (second hand, of course) to use exclusively with my 17-55 f/2.8 Nikkor lens via the FTZ. I figured out that that lens is so good, that it deserves a new body. I am pretty much aware of all Z50's advantages and shortcomings, but for my use-case it will be adequate and the most economical solution, so yes, the day I see the price starting with a "4" in euros, i'm gonna pull the trigger
@@Alex-zq2yx when I compare colours I am getting from the d5200 to what my Z6 can produce, the d5200 is clear winner. The reason is that Nikon had used a Toshiba sensor for it, which had proven superior to what Sony is offering. Unfortunately, we can't get them anymore in the newer cameras, so enjoy the magic of the old tech while it lasts
@@FormlessPhotography Indeed, and there's another cool lens for DX that can be found these days very cheaply - the famous 35mm f/1.8 - extremely sharp, low distortion and low price. Absolutely worth trying on a Z50 too
I think z50 is made for vloggers with limited budget and also for people who want a camera that is light in weight, take great pictures, and videos. My other choice was M6 II but I have bunch of AFS lens so this camera is a more logical choice for me.
I have a Z6, D750 and a D5500.. I was mildly interested in the Z50 because of the ergonomics. But after seeing your video, I will stay with what I have for now.
I recently revived my Z6II and Ive been documenting a new skate park recently opened here locally. I will say I’ve done some severe cropping and have seen not much loss in res. Megapixels are megapixels and I get it. I was initially going to get the Z7II instead but wanted the extra frames for action. Glad I did. Will pick up the 7II over the summer some time on a deal. I get the idea of loosing res when cropping but it really feels like they’ve done something different with these updated bodies. Now I’m not saying crop to blow up to billboard size but for online digital and posting, I don’t see the difference. I’m sure the Z7II will be awesome and offer more. Loving the Z6II for my use case. My Z50 did come in handy though right in my jacket pocket once I filled both cards and drained the batteries. As Matt says.... “All about use case” Cheers.
I'm a big fan of my little Z50 so I was ready to defend the guy. But the role you bought it for, the battery and cable issue would drive me bonkers. Then having to noodle out how a 50mm would work on that camera vs. the full frame kids. Well, as a pro that's not a variable, in your case, you really want to worry about. Wrong tool for job. For my case; I love the smaller size. It fits on the motorcycle really nice and if it gets pranged I won't cry has hard as I would pranging my Z7. With the Z6II arriving shortly I may have to consider declaring the Z7 surplus. No pressing need to move it on, I like it, just have not used it like I thought I would.
I enjoy having both as an option. The Z50 matches the IQ of my D500 at half the size, and can use those really nice and affordable AF-P lenses. That 16-50 is impressive size wise. I like my 85S on the Z50 at 128mm as well, and I can carry two cameras now, and not switch lenses in the field to protect those unprotected sensors. I disabled the top display when using the Z7 and Z6II. My biggest complaint is it not having a USB-C port! Also, not being able to program sub-menu items (spot metering) directly to a button. LOL I'd have a hard time choosing between a Z60 and D780 (for my screw drive lenses) though.
Great video! I wonder why they don’t use the same idea for the flipped down screen for the z6 and z7. It seems like a very good compromise between the flip side out vs only tilt.
Yeah it is interesting the lack of flip sideways ... I think Nikon just really don't believe in it ... and perhaps it effects weather sealing / strength etc ... more digging to be done on that front :)
It was great to hear your thought process wondering if you might do a video like this comparing the Z6ii and Z7ii. I currently have the Z6 and would like a second camera I am mostly shoot portraits but sometimes do landscapes and I would like a second camera and I’m dabbling in video I would love to hear your thoughts I hear people complain Z7 has too much grain in low light thanks Matt !
I don´t think anyone can argue that the Z6 is better than the Z50 that´s probably why it costs almost 3x more so I really don´t understand what the point of the comparison is, the Z5 is probably a better option for you
Interesting video - I have seen quite a few video's comparing the Z50 to the Z6. Sometime the Z50 wins, sometimes it's the Z6. But I see the true comparison should be against the Z7. Very similar pixel density, and not as strong at the z6 when it comes to low light and dynamic range. As a comparison to the Z7, it's much cheaper, lower spec, smaller sized body. So if you expect to crop the images with a Z7, or put it in DX mode, the Z50 is where it's at. So for me it's a great second body to go with my Z6. It's small, light, great walk about camera and a good substitute for a Z7 when I would want the maximum reach (i.e. better than a Z6 when you need maximum reach).
But the Z6 has a 1.7x crop shooting 4k so the 'full frame' look and 'I know what the picture would be like' kind of goes out the door anyway. So, the Z50 with 4k no crop (but in reality 1.5x compared to FX) compared to Z6 with 1.7x crop. The Z6 is worse. The rest of the reasons makes sense no doubt.
Z5 is 1.7x crop in 4K. Z6 is no crop in 4K. See here From DP REVIEW www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-z6/8 "The Z6 can capture 4K video, which is sampled from the entire width of the sensor and then downsized (that's a good thing) at 30p, 25p or 24p. You can shoot full-frame or switch to DX mode for a 1.5x crop. Whichever mode you choose, quality is excellent."
The video button makes sense at the top if you imagine this Z50 as a selfie 🤳 blogging camera actually. They should have used the same battery. And that screen folding is odd.
Yes under stand but Z50 great fun to carry for holidays as soon as we are able have z6 brilliant and D850 but Z50 almost pocket size works great with my voigtlander 50mm lens much easier for manual focus 👍
You explained your situation very clearly, and if I were you, I would do the same thing..me ?..I have a D7100 with crop and full frame lenses..I picked up the Z50 about a yr ago and love it..the kit lenses are much better than I expected, and with the FTZ adaptor, I use all my other lenses..I'm happy..great video !
I have the D7200 and enjoyed it, but since getting the Z50 and its two lenses the 7200 just sits on the shelf. Now have the Z6 as well so gave the D7200 to grandson. My Z6 has the latest 3.40 firmware, and it wears the Tamron 100-400 and 150-600 G2 most of the time.
I am going for the Z5 as it comes in a kit in the UK with the 24-50 lens and the FTZ adapter and I can use my dx lenses to start with and buy new Z ones when I can afford them or buy secondhamd F ff lenses
For me the smal size and weight is the main reason I bought the z50. I would like to ha in body stabilisation but I don't want to carry the weight of prime lenses. The body and two kit lenses weights less then only the body of my old Canon t90 which was my last system camera. I've got an adapter for Canon FD lenses to Z lenses so I can use my old Kiron 105mm 2.8 macro. This is a very heavy lens so a lighter macro lens is the only lens I would buy extra. If I would use more than one camera body I would go for two same size bodies.
I love the z50. Is the best camera out there to carry in a hike. Not Pro, of course a Z6 is far better camera in al ways but in your hands (in my opinion the z50 is the best camera ever made :P ergonomically talking).
Bummer, I get it but I love that little camera. I would keep the z50. Don't get me wrong. I would love to have the z6. In my use case though, I can't justify the cost of it. No one pays me to shoot. Secondly, the ligaments in my right hand have gotten torn up from my job. It can get worn out from the z50 and I'm not sure the extra weight f the bigger camera would me manageable on a long day. What do I not like about the z50? 1. The battery. If you could charge the camera while your shooting the battery issue goes away. Why the hell would a company make it where you could not. Wth Nikon? 2. In body stabilization. The compatability of the z50 with the z mount is nice but the balloon gets popped when you realize that compatability comes strapped to a tripod. No other lens option on the z mount but the kits. The z50 should come with the ftz regardless of the package bought. Body only, you get the adapter. Body and one lens, you get the adapter. Body and 2 lens, you get the adapter. The dropped ball is still bouncing away. 3.. No usb-c. Nikon! Like issue 1, what the hell? I'm not even sure how long it's been since my phone had a micro usb 3. I shoot in the sun a whole lot, everday. I'm not dominant to either eye. I just use whatever one the sun is not blinding. When I use my left eye. I tend to hit the top zoom button with my nose. At times it can drive me a little crazy. 4. The Dx lens issue worries me. I love this little camera and I undertand the balance Nikon faces with offering lower cost cameras. Not all issues are about money so nail those.
I don’t think he’s telling anyone to get rid of it. Lol. It’s just for his use case and having replaceable superior bodies. It’s actually a good problem to have and not a knock to the little pocket rocket Z50 as I like to call it. Lord knows I won’t be getting rid of mine. Pairs just fine on the go with my Z6II
Looks like some of the same issues i have with my Z50, and why i want to step up to z7II otZ6II. since i do a lot of wildlife and landscape plus some other things i might go for the Z7II, also the extra MP will be use full if and when i need to crop something. also i would like to use an interval ometer for my astro photos and night landscape and night street picture. (alwasys go for under 1200 iso for my pictures doing that.)
No crop sensor cameras, so.....you never bought a D500. I’m just a little surprised at that. I love my Z50 but I understand your reasoning. I don’t like the battery issue either, not being the en-el 15, and it’s $70 on Amazon. Enjoy your videos.
The IBS (In Body Stabilisation should NEVER be used for Video Photography - It often renders your video useless. The Stabilisation is good only for stills.
I never understood why Nikon developed and marketed the Z50. It just wasn’t a good decision, especially given the fact that they had to develop a whole line of APS-C lenses. And then they introduce the Z5, an entry level full frame camera. Who wouldn’t prefer the Z5 for just a little more money?
like in our country. a z50 cost PhP 56,000 while a Z5 cost a Php 95,000, those price difference could buy you a motorcycle for commuting in our country. the main reason the Z50 exist is because there's a market for it for those who want a compact system ideal for travel and compact workflow. The development for Z50 isn't a burden either since they would just yank all the parts from the existing D7500 and put it into the Z50 body. The Z50 even becomes a No. 1 best selling camera in japan so I don't think the Z50 is such a bad decision.
In canada the z5 is almost double the price of the z50. Also the z50 has 120fps 1080p and vs the z5 60fps 1080p (both have 30fps 4k) The z50 has a flipped down screen which can be useful to film yourself, to vlog. The z50 is also very compact. So for someone just starting out, or for an amateur who needs to travel light, or someone who needs 120fps for fun and creative use but cant spend 1k more on a body, the z50 is a very smart choice. Also, all of the S lenses are compatible, so one can buy and upgrade the body later (unlikely since S lenses are so expensive, but it’s something to keep in mind) For me, I currently use a nikon d5200 and I want to upgrade the body, i want to have 120fps, i want to have the flip under screen, and I already have some F mount lenses, and I don’t have the money to pay double the price on a body. So for my situation, the z50 is the best. (but i’d definitely get the z6ii if i had the money)
Nikon made a mistake when they released the Z50 and didn't include an 18mm DX pancake lens with it. This would have made it a compact kit which would have fit in our jacket pockets.
I purchased the z50 for travel. I also own the D7200 and decide that the D7200 for travel was getting to heavy while touring Europe and chasing the grandkids. I like to replace my D7200, but not sure I want to go FF at this time. Still hoping that Nikon comes out with a D500 replacement. What your thoughts, should I replace my D7200 with a Z6 or z6ll?
I don’t profess to be a pro at all but if your budget agrees then swing for a Z6II. This thing is great. Especially with that 50mm 1.8 and 24-70mm 2.8. Haven’t put mine down since it arrived.
@@thunder7382 What I meant is a mirrorless version of the D500. The D500 is an awesome camera, but I would like to go totally mirrorless with my camera's
I know it’s only a detail and you still get the message in your video, but i just wanted to say that mAh is a unit of electric charge, so it is the battery capacity, not power! Power is volt times ampere. Cheers
With Z6ii release, Z6 prices crashing of course. You can get a Nikon factory refurb w/warrantee for under $1400 now. Super camera still. Had a Z50 for a knock around cam, nice form factor. Couldn't hold a candle to Z6 low light focus, and that was last Dec before firmware 3.x focus updates. Sharp, lightweight optics, nice VR - but sent it back for refund. Batteries and same connect wire redundancy - worth hundred$ for Z6 favor in honest bottom line comparison. Looking forward to release of FF Nikkor 'pancake' lenses, otherwise all pluses for the bigger cam as a B roll/backup. Cheers!
I was aiming to get z50......just for the prize and chance to get FTZ adapter for the same prize as z5.....probably a lense as well in the bargain But after watching this video will have to stick for z5.....
@@MattIrwinPhotography will be full frame sencor.....dual card slots.....and ergonomics....familliar button position....but is bit expencive for a hobby.....good that I can use my F glass....
I have a Z6 and a Z50 and I love both! The Z50 is great as a webcam for my live streaming (Nikon just released the webcam software) and for everyday family use! The battery to me isn't that horrible like everyone says and I have 2 of them! It def smaller lighter and more portable with the familiarity of my Z6! I makes a great backup camera at that price point.
Slightly off topic, but there is a thread on a Facebook page under the Group Heading - Nikon Z5 Z6 Z7 Shooters commenting on an issue with Z6ii RAW files in Lightroom and Photoshop. As a Z6ii user, Matt, I wonder if you could either substantiate or correct the views relating to this issue. It will be found at facebook.com/groups/zshooters/permalink/988932584939680/?comment_id=989326311566974. As my Z7ii doesn't arrive for at least another month I cannot look into this, but I do use Lightroom and Photoshop and have never experienced any issues of the kind alluded to with any of my D series bodies or the Z6.
My heart wants a Z6 ... but my wallet tells me a Z50 is more in my budget. I had been considering picking up a second hand D750 but then I also need to justify investment in F-mount glass knowing that I'll eventually transition to the Z mount anyway and may as well invest in that system instead. Maybe I'll head to Officeworks and buy a book of raffle tickets, stick one on the fridge and then buy a Z6 II either in the Black Friday sales, or wait for the Australia Day sales... and then tell the wife I won it 🤣
I love my Z6, but every now and then I think the Z50 would be great just to get to use the two DX lenses. Even more so than the 24-50mm, they strike me as terrific compact zooms. Certainly a great kit for someone who wants a lightweight travel package.
It's nice to hear how a pro actually chooses gear. While specs are important often it is more about how the gear fits one's work flow and if there are any specific features that are very important for one's work flow. Interestingly I was recently talking to a pro I know who switched to Fuji from Canon. His switch was driven more by the Fuji being a better fit than any particular issue with Canon.
I have been shooting APS-C for many years now and have gotten use to the improved reach of APS-C cameras over full-frame. Though I can see some situations were a full-frame might be a better fit for me, mostly for improved bokeh. I currently use a Z50 and plan to use it as my main camera for the near term. Though if a Z50 II is released with IBIS I would probably get one.
To be fair to this camera, I don’t think it was ever intended to service a working professional. It was meant to be for enthusiasts who are just entering the mirrorless world. So for the vast majority of people who do not intend to spend a lot of
money to buy a full frame camera, this would be a sound choice.
Hey Matt, I like my Z50 as a replacement for my iPhone. The compact kit lens, small body, APS-C sensor are a huge step up from a cell phone. Much better quality, great for candid street shots. I still use my cell phone for photographing documents, or anything non-photogenic that I need to document. GDAY!
Tamron lenses stabilization and AF works well on Z50, i have 24-70 2.8 G2 on z50 for video, battery is an issue, hope they release same version that is usb rechargeable.
Fantastic to hear the Tamron stabilisation is working well. Cheers Jerome :)
A couple months after I got my Z6, sold an absolutely stunning Tamron SP 35 mm F1.8 which did not work with Z mount yet. Of course 3 weeks later they came out with the firmware update after the sale! Bought another one, updated firmware with great results. I hear a lot of the Sigma Art series is Z compatible, just some of the Tamron SP's. Nikkor Z glass is wonderful, but please don't discount others. That 35mm was awesome on my D810, exceptionally good VR and very sharp optics.
I have one and mine is rechargeable from USB.
I think the Z50 is a great camera for a lot of people, especially for those who buy their first camera, but for your use case it's understandable that you want more interchangeabilty.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Cheers Geek. For sure this is very particular to my use case ... if this was my first Z mount mirrorless I would be over the moon :)
@@MattIrwinPhotography Really hate this kind of spam. It appears under many of my old comments. They have 2 accounts, one pretending to ask for help, and the other one recommending him a site. Spammers are getting creative.
Just advertising?
Bots?
@@MattIrwinPhotography Maybe bots, not sure. I get these similar responses under some other TH-camrs, usually on old comments.
I was so happy I chose the Z50 as my first camera to get away from the 'point and shoots'. Its a great camera to learn photography on and I've had a blast using it to explore all the photography styles. The 24-70 f/2.8 lens makes the Z50 punch far above its weight class. That said, my Z6 II should be arriving today. Though I don't have the legacy issues that you have, the short comings you brought up are similar to what I've found. I'd like to try tethering, which the Z50 can not do. The low light could be better and the focusing is not as quick as the full frames. But it was through the Z50 that I found out what I was looking for, and if I had gone with the Z6 originally, I would not have been able to spring for the stellar 24-70 lens f/2.8, or other gear as quickly as I have. I'll be holding on to the Z50 as it still makes for a great ECD camera. As usual, your thoughts and experience are a great help and your positive attitude a joy to observe.
standardisation in any industry is the most efficient and cost effective so it makes sense
Will you upgrade also your Z7 (if I remember, I think you will not)... so why go with the z6ii instead of the Z7ii?
I bought the Z50 because of the smaller size so I can use it for holliday and b camera. But I’m loving it so much that I use it sometimes as my main camera when I don’t need super dof.
I wasn't supposed to keep mine as I was just trying mirrorless while waiting for the Z5 and Z6II to be released. I ended retuning the full kit to buy it without the 50-250. I wasn't a fan of how often I had to switch away from the 50-250 on DX. 250mm was enough for a decent handheld moon photo though. Luckily, I landed the 24-200 when it came out.
Wow I'm two minutes in and already grateful! That different battery type is really crosses it off the list for me.
I'm sticking with my Z6. I'll upgrade when Z63 comes out or something.
I’m much more comfortable taking my Z50 travelling over my FF Z cameras, not only for size but also for cost. I’m a lot less paranoid about it getting damaged or stolen.
Agreed - Its the little things in life that make all the difference.
I really miss the buttons on my D850 and D500 cameras on the Z cameras.
XQD rules - No more crappy SD cards please.
The older z6 is now selling for less than AU$2000 - much better value.
One Z50 advantage - it uses the ML-L3 remote trigger...
Great video, well laid out case. I have a Z6 and am considering a Z50 for a very different use case. With a high-quality 20 megapixel sensor and a 1.4 crop it makes an ideal tele range extension for travel photography. If I pop on my 100-400 lens it bumps it up to 150-600 equivalent at less cost, size and weight than purchasing and carrying a 200-500 mm lens or 150-600 lens. I could throw a Z50 in my bag with my full frame kit, and gain more range in my lenses at little extra cost. In addition, with the kit lens, I’d have a great light-weight package for walking around with.
Same. That’s what I use mine (Z50) for now. Picked up a Z6II and have been loving every second of use. The kit 50-250 doubles to 75-375 and that little 20mp sensor is no slouch. Plus throwing right into the jacket or hoodie pocket is a big bonus instead of wearing two straps over shoulder or neck.
As a pro it makes sense for you to go that way. For someone like me who can only use one hand to shoot the smaller size makes sense as does the lower price . I don’t do video so no problem for me
Z50 is a great little camera. It does a lot of things really well but like Matt said, it depends on use and if you want to have the same system throughout. I’ve recently picked up a Z6 and was very taken back by the quality of the sensor with the 35mm. I’d love to see what the 85 S looks like with the Z6. I’m going to end up keeping the Z50 and use my 70-200 on it to compress background and get a nice DoF. The full frame look sticks out when you compare files side by side.
Just got my Z50 today 😢
Why being sad, its the best mirrorless camera you can get for the price and size
@@frederikvanreusel yes, I'm actually loving it, the crying smiley just for Matt on his timing 🤣
As Matt always says: Usecase! Just because it doesn't fit his use case that doesn't mean it wouldn't fit yours.
I have the Z50 and z7. I love my z50 as it's really easy to take with me and if I lose it I don't really care. The z7 comes out when I am going out to shoot specifically with my camera bag. I will keep it for size weight and it takes amazing pictures.
lose*
If you lose it, "you "don't really care" ? Wow
@@jmlr2011 compared to z7 with 24 to 70 2.8, A used z50 goes for not much over $600, which is less than most decent phones, so i will not lose too much sleep if it was lost. Obviously I would be very sad
I wish Nikon had put that flip screen onto the Z5 as well. They would sell a lot to vloggers and youtubers
z5, z6 and z7 ! it would fit nicely on all of their cameras
@@Alex-zq2yx I get the Z6II and Z7II not having a flip screen since they are more professional cameras, which usually don't require this feature. But the Z5 should have a flip screen, because many pros like a B-cam and then they want a flip screen.
you vloggers keep your toys,full frame is for the sirious stuff
DX is not without reason. The larger depth of field is an objective advantage (only subjectively do we 'like' shallow depth of field). Whenever you need things in focus, like macro photography, it's easier with a DX sensor camera. In low light situations you also don't have to stop down as much. It also looks more natural in video. Cinema films have been shot 'cropped' - on 35 mm film but rotated 90 ° - for a century.
The crop factor also means you get more reach for wildlife photography. A Z 500 with in-body stabilisation could actually be an amazing camera.
For sure some people's use case works better with crop. I prefer (subjectively) 35mm and technically :) Cheers Matt
For video you have the full DX option on the Z6. 4k full frame and 4k with crop. Main reason I prefer the Z6 over the Z7. Wonder if the new Z6II still has that feature?
Also DX cameras have a higher pixel density per unit area than 24 megapixel full frame cameras.
Sensor size does not effect depth of field - only distance and aperture do.
Nearly all crop sensors have poorer low light performance.
Video is better on DX because the resolution is closer to 4k.
I do like my D500 as a backup for wildlife (when I can start again).
A Z500 would be great. The Z50 doesn't cut it...
@@roybixby6135, of course sensor size does effect depth of field since obviously you will be using wider lenses to get the same composition. An FX size sensor might have a little bit better low light performance, but then you have to stop down more to get the same depth of field which negates this advantage.
I used a D7000 for years, which was a phenomenal camera! Then I used a D750, and now the Z5. I considered the Z6 however video is not my game and SD cards don't scare me :) I have to say I'm not a pixel peeper but I do believe the Z5 out shoots the D750! The IBIS is excellent too. Great video Matt :)
You hit on a lot of points that makes my Z50 seem less appealing (even compared to my D5600). Hopefully Nikon listens to objective photographers like you and adds a D500 equivalent (Z70?) with IBIS that opens opens up all the best Z glass for low light, portrait, action, and wildlife situations.
I will be buying a Z50 to replace my slowly retiring d5200, once I find one at a good price (second hand, of course) to use exclusively with my 17-55 f/2.8 Nikkor lens via the FTZ. I figured out that that lens is so good, that it deserves a new body.
I am pretty much aware of all Z50's advantages and shortcomings, but for my use-case it will be adequate and the most economical solution, so yes, the day I see the price starting with a "4" in euros, i'm gonna pull the trigger
I currently use a d5200 as well, and planning to get a z50 !
It’s a great camera for the pocket and on the go. Even with the adapter and my 50mm 1.8, still fits right in the glove compartment of the car
@@Alex-zq2yx when I compare colours I am getting from the d5200 to what my Z6 can produce, the d5200 is clear winner. The reason is that Nikon had used a Toshiba sensor for it, which had proven superior to what Sony is offering. Unfortunately, we can't get them anymore in the newer cameras, so enjoy the magic of the old tech while it lasts
@@FormlessPhotography Indeed, and there's another cool lens for DX that can be found these days very cheaply - the famous 35mm f/1.8 - extremely sharp, low distortion and low price. Absolutely worth trying on a Z50 too
@@barmalini that’s crazy and very hard to believe!! allow me to have some doubts hahaha. Do you mind sharing some examples?
I think z50 is made for vloggers with limited budget and also for people who want a camera that is light in weight, take great pictures, and videos. My other choice was M6 II but I have bunch of AFS lens so this camera is a more logical choice for me.
Is it worth upgrade to Z50 from D5600?
Definitely! Considering upgrading from my trusty old D3200 as well
Thank you for this video
I have a Z6, D750 and a D5500.. I was mildly interested in the Z50 because of the ergonomics. But after seeing your video, I will stay with what I have for now.
I recently revived my Z6II and Ive been documenting a new skate park recently opened here locally. I will say I’ve done some severe cropping and have seen not much loss in res. Megapixels are megapixels and I get it. I was initially going to get the Z7II instead but wanted the extra frames for action. Glad I did. Will pick up the 7II over the summer some time on a deal. I get the idea of loosing res when cropping but it really feels like they’ve done something different with these updated bodies. Now I’m not saying crop to blow up to billboard size but for online digital and posting, I don’t see the difference. I’m sure the Z7II will be awesome and offer more. Loving the Z6II for my use case. My Z50 did come in handy though right in my jacket pocket once I filled both cards and drained the batteries. As Matt says.... “All about use case” Cheers.
I'm a big fan of my little Z50 so I was ready to defend the guy. But the role you bought it for, the battery and cable issue would drive me bonkers. Then having to noodle out how a 50mm would work on that camera vs. the full frame kids. Well, as a pro that's not a variable, in your case, you really want to worry about. Wrong tool for job.
For my case; I love the smaller size. It fits on the motorcycle really nice and if it gets pranged I won't cry has hard as I would pranging my Z7. With the Z6II arriving shortly I may have to consider declaring the Z7 surplus. No pressing need to move it on, I like it, just have not used it like I thought I would.
I enjoy having both as an option. The Z50 matches the IQ of my D500 at half the size, and can use those really nice and affordable AF-P lenses. That 16-50 is impressive size wise. I like my 85S on the Z50 at 128mm as well, and I can carry two cameras now, and not switch lenses in the field to protect those unprotected sensors.
I disabled the top display when using the Z7 and Z6II. My biggest complaint is it not having a USB-C port! Also, not being able to program sub-menu items (spot metering) directly to a button. LOL I'd have a hard time choosing between a Z60 and D780 (for my screw drive lenses) though.
Great video! I wonder why they don’t use the same idea for the flipped down screen for the z6 and z7. It seems like a very good compromise between the flip side out vs only tilt.
Yeah it is interesting the lack of flip sideways ... I think Nikon just really don't believe in it ... and perhaps it effects weather sealing / strength etc ... more digging to be done on that front :)
It was great to hear your thought process wondering if you might do a video like this comparing the Z6ii and Z7ii. I currently have the Z6 and would like a second camera I am mostly shoot portraits but sometimes do landscapes and I would like a second camera and I’m dabbling in video I would love to hear your thoughts I hear people complain Z7 has too much grain in low light thanks Matt !
I don´t think anyone can argue that the Z6 is better than the Z50 that´s probably why it costs almost 3x more so I really don´t understand what the point of the comparison is, the Z5 is probably a better option for you
The Smallrig battery for the Z50 is cheap, 1250ma, and USB-C charges. I never even use the Nikon battery that came with my camera anymore
Interesting video - I have seen quite a few video's comparing the Z50 to the Z6. Sometime the Z50 wins, sometimes it's the Z6. But I see the true comparison should be against the Z7. Very similar pixel density, and not as strong at the z6 when it comes to low light and dynamic range. As a comparison to the Z7, it's much cheaper, lower spec, smaller sized body. So if you expect to crop the images with a Z7, or put it in DX mode, the Z50 is where it's at.
So for me it's a great second body to go with my Z6. It's small, light, great walk about camera and a good substitute for a Z7 when I would want the maximum reach (i.e. better than a Z6 when you need maximum reach).
But the Z6 has a 1.7x crop shooting 4k so the 'full frame' look and 'I know what the picture would be like' kind of goes out the door anyway.
So, the Z50 with 4k no crop (but in reality 1.5x compared to FX) compared to Z6 with 1.7x crop. The Z6 is worse.
The rest of the reasons makes sense no doubt.
Z5 is 1.7x crop in 4K.
Z6 is no crop in 4K.
See here
From DP REVIEW
www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-z6/8
"The Z6 can capture 4K video, which is sampled from the entire width of the sensor and then downsized (that's a good thing) at 30p, 25p or 24p. You can shoot full-frame or switch to DX mode for a 1.5x crop. Whichever mode you choose, quality is excellent."
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Ahh, sorry. I mixed up the Z5 and Z6.
The video button makes sense at the top if you imagine this Z50 as a selfie 🤳 blogging camera actually. They should have used the same battery. And that screen folding is odd.
Yes under stand but Z50 great fun to carry for holidays as soon as we are able have z6 brilliant and D850 but Z50 almost pocket size works great with my voigtlander 50mm lens much easier for manual focus 👍
I own only a z50, maybe I'll buy a z6. But for the moment, I'm happy with my gear....
You explained your situation very clearly, and if I were you, I would do the same thing..me ?..I have a D7100 with crop and full frame lenses..I picked up the Z50 about a yr ago and love it..the kit lenses are much better than I expected, and with the FTZ adaptor, I use all my other lenses..I'm happy..great video !
I have the D7200 and enjoyed it, but since getting the Z50 and its two lenses the 7200 just sits on the shelf. Now have the Z6 as well so gave the D7200 to grandson. My Z6 has the latest 3.40 firmware, and it wears the Tamron 100-400 and 150-600 G2 most of the time.
I will buy Fuji xt3 over Nikon z50 .hope Nikon bring z50 mark II with improvements, I love crop sensors small size camera !!!
U have got some valid reasons, well for me if it's Nikon then full frame is the route to go...
Goes to show if you can how your better off getting the top shelf models for features you may not currently need
I am going for the Z5 as it comes in a kit in the UK with the 24-50 lens and the FTZ adapter and I can use my dx lenses to start with and buy new Z ones when I can afford them or buy secondhamd F ff lenses
For me the smal size and weight is the main reason I bought the z50. I would like to ha in body stabilisation but I don't want to carry the weight of prime lenses. The body and two kit lenses weights less then only the body of my old Canon t90 which was my last system camera. I've got an adapter for Canon FD lenses to Z lenses so I can use my old Kiron 105mm 2.8 macro. This is a very heavy lens so a lighter macro lens is the only lens I would buy extra.
If I would use more than one camera body I would go for two same size bodies.
I love the z50. Is the best camera out there to carry in a hike. Not Pro, of course a Z6 is far better camera in al ways but in your hands (in my opinion the z50 is the best camera ever made :P ergonomically talking).
Bummer, I get it but I love that little camera.
I would keep the z50. Don't get me wrong. I would love to have the z6. In my use case though, I can't justify the cost of it. No one pays me to shoot.
Secondly, the ligaments in my right hand have gotten torn up from my job. It can get worn out from the z50 and I'm not sure the extra weight f the bigger camera would me manageable on a long day.
What do I not like about the z50?
1. The battery. If you could charge the camera while your shooting the battery issue goes away. Why the hell would a company make it where you could not. Wth Nikon?
2. In body stabilization. The compatability of the z50 with the z mount is nice but the balloon gets popped when you realize that compatability comes strapped to a tripod. No other lens option on the z mount but the kits. The z50 should come with the ftz regardless of the package bought. Body only, you get the adapter. Body and one lens, you get the adapter. Body and 2 lens, you get the adapter. The dropped ball is still bouncing away.
3.. No usb-c. Nikon! Like issue 1, what the hell? I'm not even sure how long it's been since my phone had a micro usb
3. I shoot in the sun a whole lot, everday. I'm not dominant to either eye. I just use whatever one the sun is not blinding. When I use my left eye. I tend to hit the top zoom button with my nose. At times it can drive me a little crazy.
4. The Dx lens issue worries me.
I love this little camera and I undertand the balance Nikon faces with offering lower cost cameras. Not all issues are about money so nail those.
I don’t think he’s telling anyone to get rid of it. Lol. It’s just for his use case and having replaceable superior bodies. It’s actually a good problem to have and not a knock to the little pocket rocket Z50 as I like to call it. Lord knows I won’t be getting rid of mine. Pairs just fine on the go with my Z6II
Looks like some of the same issues i have with my Z50, and why i want to step up to z7II otZ6II.
since i do a lot of wildlife and landscape plus some other things i might go for the Z7II, also the extra MP will be use full if and when i need to crop something.
also i would like to use an interval ometer for my astro photos and night landscape and night street picture. (alwasys go for under 1200 iso for my pictures doing that.)
No crop sensor cameras, so.....you never bought a D500. I’m just a little surprised at that. I love my Z50 but I understand your reasoning. I don’t like the battery issue either, not being the en-el 15, and it’s $70 on Amazon. Enjoy your videos.
£85 Amazon UK
Question? Do Z6ii function as backup Lanscape camera or shall i use Z7ii in combination with D880/D850 or Z8?
The IBS (In Body Stabilisation should NEVER be used for Video Photography - It often renders your video useless. The Stabilisation is good only for stills.
No joystick or dedicated af button too
I bought the D7500 last summer to replace my D7000. The Z50 didn`t cut it. These new camera systems aren´t ripe until mark iii.
Interesting I just bought the Z50 to replace my D7000. I'll see if I miss something.
The Z50 didn't fit my use case which is sports. It is a decent camera nevertheless.
@@helgividar Oh, now I see. Perfectly understandable
I never understood why Nikon developed and marketed the Z50. It just wasn’t a good decision, especially given the fact that they had to develop a whole line of APS-C lenses. And then they introduce the Z5, an entry level full frame camera. Who wouldn’t prefer the Z5 for just a little more money?
like in our country. a z50 cost PhP 56,000 while a Z5 cost a Php 95,000, those price difference could buy you a motorcycle for commuting in our country. the main reason the Z50 exist is because there's a market for it for those who want a compact system ideal for travel and compact workflow. The development for Z50 isn't a burden either since they would just yank all the parts from the existing D7500 and put it into the Z50 body. The Z50 even becomes a No. 1 best selling camera in japan so I don't think the Z50 is such a bad decision.
In canada the z5 is almost double the price of the z50. Also the z50 has 120fps 1080p and vs the z5 60fps 1080p (both have 30fps 4k) The z50 has a flipped down screen which can be useful to film yourself, to vlog. The z50 is also very compact. So for someone just starting out, or for an amateur who needs to travel light, or someone who needs 120fps for fun and creative use but cant spend 1k more on a body, the z50 is a very smart choice. Also, all of the S lenses are compatible, so one can buy and upgrade the body later (unlikely since S lenses are so expensive, but it’s something to keep in mind) For me, I currently use a nikon d5200 and I want to upgrade the body, i want to have 120fps, i want to have the flip under screen, and I already have some F mount lenses, and I don’t have the money to pay double the price on a body. So for my situation, the z50 is the best. (but i’d definitely get the z6ii if i had the money)
All about use case and compact size.
Nikon made a mistake when they released the Z50 and didn't include an 18mm DX pancake lens with it. This would have made it a compact kit which would have fit in our jacket pockets.
if they release one that would be nice!!
It fits just well in my jacket pocket or hoodie with the 16-50mm.
did you just wake up? :D.... jk... love your videos
Z5?
i stopped investing completely now.
if nikon does not open the Z-System to others like Sigma, Tamron, etc. i do not buy.
top video
I purchased the z50 for travel. I also own the D7200 and decide that the D7200 for travel was getting to heavy while touring Europe and chasing the grandkids. I like to replace my D7200, but not sure I want to go FF at this time. Still hoping that Nikon comes out with a D500 replacement. What your thoughts, should I replace my D7200 with a Z6 or z6ll?
I don’t profess to be a pro at all but if your budget agrees then swing for a Z6II. This thing is great. Especially with that 50mm 1.8 and 24-70mm 2.8. Haven’t put mine down since it arrived.
D500 needs no replacement
@@thunder7382 What I meant is a mirrorless version of the D500. The D500 is an awesome camera, but I would like to go totally mirrorless with my camera's
@@cesarm8811 you wouldn’t consider the z50 as a comparable option to the d500? I see no reason not to ...
@@thunder7382 Agree... but would like a mirrorless version.
That's the main reason I got rid of mine. Also they had no spares.
Meanwhile is is -10C with a wind chill of of -15C here.........
I know it’s only a detail and you still get the message in your video, but i just wanted to say that mAh is a unit of electric charge, so it is the battery capacity, not power! Power is volt times ampere. Cheers
It took me nine months to get a second battery for my Z50.
Yeah batteries seem hard to come by for most cameras these days ...
With Z6ii release, Z6 prices crashing of course. You can get a Nikon factory refurb w/warrantee for under $1400 now. Super camera still. Had a Z50 for a knock around cam, nice form factor. Couldn't hold a candle to Z6 low light focus, and that was last Dec before firmware 3.x focus updates. Sharp, lightweight optics, nice VR - but sent it back for refund. Batteries and same connect wire redundancy - worth hundred$ for Z6 favor in honest bottom line comparison. Looking forward to release of FF Nikkor 'pancake' lenses, otherwise all pluses for the bigger cam as a B roll/backup. Cheers!
Take the z50 to Teds as a trade in deposit for the 50mm f1.2
I was aiming to get z50......just for the prize and chance to get FTZ adapter for the same prize as z5.....probably a lense as well in the bargain
But after watching this video will have to stick for z5.....
Sorry Marti if this changed your plans, what in your use case makes the Z5 more attractive?
@@MattIrwinPhotography will be full frame sencor.....dual card slots.....and ergonomics....familliar button position....but is bit expencive for a hobby.....good that I can use my F glass....
Could go for Z6 just a few quid more :)
@@cheetahkid few hundred ...... Big difference.
I have a Z6 and a Z50 and I love both! The Z50 is great as a webcam for my live streaming (Nikon just released the webcam software) and for everyday family use! The battery to me isn't that horrible like everyone says and I have 2 of them! It def smaller lighter and more portable with the familiarity of my Z6! I makes a great backup camera at that price point.
Weird review considering Z50`s tiny price tag))
Yes, it's about use case. That's why I went with the Z7 instead of the Z6. I have no interest in DX cameras.
The Z6 & Z7 have the same physical size sensor, both are full frame. The DX line has a cropped sensor and is not full frame.
Slightly off topic, but there is a thread on a Facebook page under the Group Heading - Nikon Z5 Z6 Z7 Shooters commenting on an issue with Z6ii RAW files in Lightroom and Photoshop. As a Z6ii user, Matt, I wonder if you could either substantiate or correct the views relating to this issue. It will be found at facebook.com/groups/zshooters/permalink/988932584939680/?comment_id=989326311566974. As my Z7ii doesn't arrive for at least another month I cannot look into this, but I do use Lightroom and Photoshop and have never experienced any issues of the kind alluded to with any of my D series bodies or the Z6.
For 15 years I have used DX cameras. Nikon should let the APS-C line die.
In free market nations, prices will be dropping for Z6 and Z7. Something that should be kept in mind.
You get what you pay for...
Wise words :)
My heart wants a Z6 ... but my wallet tells me a Z50 is more in my budget.
I had been considering picking up a second hand D750 but then I also need to justify investment in F-mount glass knowing that I'll eventually transition to the Z mount anyway and may as well invest in that system instead.
Maybe I'll head to Officeworks and buy a book of raffle tickets, stick one on the fridge and then buy a Z6 II either in the Black Friday sales, or wait for the Australia Day sales... and then tell the wife I won it 🤣
Thank you for this video