Han is introverted thus not a clingy person. I think this is why Lee Know fits him well. LK gives him space to be quiet and alone because LK is comfortable with silence. LK is not as emotionally inward as Hyunjin. He’s like Changbin and Chan, in tune with people’s feeling around him. His non intrusive companionship makes Han feel really at home. They both can be themselves in private together. LK is also a good listener. He can probably listen to Han for hours with a smile. And then he’d say a few key words to sum it up for Han, that’d make Han go WoW.
imagine writing a whole essay about people you dont even really know, like wow do you actually realize that you dont really know them personally or ...
IN has literally talked about how he's had to learn to read the room and when to leave the two of them to themselves. This means it's very mutual. So weird that people think it isn't.
@@cherubimbap7618 If you watch the most recent Minsung 2 Kids Room from last year, IN mentions he would sometimes hang around and not read the room in regards to those two and had to learn when to peace out
I think the main reason why people assume that lee know likes han more, is because han is just generally quite clingy and sweet with all the members, but lee know on the other hand really acts differently around him than any of the other members. It's the way he shows very obvious affection by staring, smiling, getting all soft and letting things han does or says slide, just because it's him. With han it's a lot of affection that becomes very obvious once you actually take a closer look at body language and all the subconscious things he does, which is quite hard to filter out if you don't know anything about it.
This!!! If you only look at the clingy/flirty side you will find nothing. He's like that with every member. It's just the way he is. You need to take a closer look and start spotting the diferences
Yes and there were times in older videos where Han showed a jealous side when Lee Know gave attention to other's. I think he really learned that it doesn't matter because they are soulmates. Like he said in their last 2 kids room together Han knows Lee Know is his goldfish.
If you think about it Minho came into JYP 1 to 2 months BEFORE the survival started then isn't it INSANE how they were already pretty touchy-freely and affectionate with each other when they were STILL BASICALLY STRANGER ?????!!! They started showing interest right away and their bond grew from there to what was show in the survival. Like it was instant connection ! Love at first sight (?) !!
Yes, it was love at first sight. In fact, one month. Jisung called them soulmates from pre-debut, so immediately their connection became very strong, and pre-debut boys were very closed personalities, boys couldn't cope with teenage hormones hanji for many years, and here he meets a quiet boy and the most beautiful man on earth according to him and understands that being strange is normal, they find many common themes and hobbies and little alien jisung has a soulmate for life. they really tweaked each other's characters that way. it's not for nothing that in the first album they wrote about each other "it's fun with you, it's good to have you here"
@@kikokai7382 Could you tell me more about "in the first album they wrote about each other"? It hasn't been long since I became STAY. I'm sorry if the sentence is strange because I used a translator.
I've never ever thought of this, and as I've loved bts for looong now I thought "is like jk and v, they are just very close since so long, this isn't sexual" but now this...😅
@@francjuy oh yes! I am an army too,and i had the exact thought just like you. But then somehow I saw those little things,which seperate them from V-Jk's relationship 🫂
Imo, they have one of the most healthiest relationship ever, romantic or platonic idk but their relationship dynamic is so damn perfect. I can't express it in words properly because I'm sobbing too much rn. Maybe later idk. But it's just that they're soulmates. Thank you to you for uploading this. It has my heart
Deep mutual respect, they are very empathetic and understanding, they can tell by the eyes what the problem is, even if the person does not say they feel bad, they have one brain for two, they have a lot of fun together, they can both forget about their problems next to each other. They even feel comfortable sitting or lying in silence together. They know that they always have someone who will be 100% on their side in any arguments and conflicts, who will protect and understand. They don't like to fight. They love to praise each other and tell everyone that they are #1 for each other. They have absolute trust and love.
I don't think it's always been healthy tho. Lee Know can be seen being aggressive physically towards Han while Han just stands there; smiling. One time, Han slightly touched Lee Know's shoulder and smiled at Lee Know but, in return, Lee Know hit Han's shoulder with full force while he had a serious face on... It was so serious from an outsider view point that Chan had to come in and ask if everything was okay but Han was just smiling... maybe it was shock? Fear? Tolerance? Whatever it was, Han seemed to be the only one smiling. Sometimes, Han had to bend with Lee Know's antics and just let Lee Know win over... this is why most of the time Han looks so inactive and hence why people think Han is just being tolerant and is not really into it. Although, nowadays, it seems to be healthier with Lee know being more gentle with Han and Han becoming more active... still, sometimes Lee know acts as if he is ignoring Han's entire existence... and only comes around when he wants some affection
@@thatguybutitsactuallyagirl5384 your comment is hella creepy.. like you just assumed their whole dynamic by giving one (unconfirmed) example. can you please say, what exact moment are you talking about?
@@thatguybutitsactuallyagirl5384 whoa.. we aren't privy to their real relationship so i doubt that we can really know what goes on between them.. let's not put things out on the internet that might seem disparaging for one or the other.. we all have our moods and tensions sometimes that affect how we behave with one another.. I do agree they seem to be more than just normal friends, and good for them if they are
Ok, I'm straight married woman, but literally, a blind person would notice there is something very deep in between them. This group is together for more than 4 years now, obviously fan service in kpop in very present. They should win an Oscar if that what it is. Lino is very sensitive and kind person that probably loves Hannie more than anything. You can see on most of Minsung interactions with Stray Kids they don't even " raise brow" because it's just normal for them. I just love them so much🥰
I'm a straight, divorced woman and I can tell that what is happening between Lee know and Han is real. It's just not fan service. I feel as if maybe something is up though and maybe it's the staff. I just wished they could be free and open without any issues. I just love what they have.
The best part is that most of their sensual interactions happen off camera, not when they are asked to say something in talker. All of their tender communication takes place behind the scenes and we happen to "catch" these moments.
@@mommy4bratz4 Well, JYP has a rule that groups that debut from them can't date for the first 3 years. SKZ debuted in 2018. So starting from 2021 they were 'allowed' to date from that point on. But in many Asian countries, if you're 'famous' you probably shouldn't because 'fans' can ruin you if you don't do or say what they want you to say if you 'come out as dating' someone. It doesn't matter who it is. Most of the 'scandals' that 'famous' people have are usually regarding who they are 'dating' or 'interested in' at the time. If you never make official statements regarding your private life, you can't get into scandals like that. Plus, Minsung could just be attracted to eachother and are 'together' but aren't 'official' if you know what I mean. Like you don't have to actually say you are dating or that the other person is your significant other/boyfriend etc... My husband never asked me to be his girlfriend but we got together. So technically you can be together without actually asking the other person. Oh I should also mention it's not just 'fans' that are a problem, it's the country too. Korea isn't as accepting with same-sex stuff as US is. It's unfortunate but that's how it is.
At 1:12:05 what makes it even more sincere is that Lee Know wasn’t feeling well at all at that concert and was really out of it (they announced that he had covid a few days after) me friends and I noticed he was struggling through most of the show and Hannie clearly noticed too. Also when he was squeezing Minho’s arm, it’s a helpful thing I learned that calm people. It helps a lot with anxiety and stress so I’m guessing it’s something han is aware of and decided it would be helpful to Minho. It was a subtle interaction but it was really sincere and through the whole concert Han was checking in on him
What you're referring to is called grounding ☺ usually helps with anxiety attacks or panic attacks (yes, they are different), but a firm physical touch to someone can help them "ground" themselves to keep their minds from wandering or "brings them back to earth".
Really, I love that moment a lottttt, that is one of the most favorite mmts to me, sadly my cat did not feel well during concert and he had to rest several days, too
Their relationship is unique and very special they are connecting everytime if there's something which is not right to them..i really love their tender loving care relationship which is really something different fr the others Members it's beyond only them can know. Love just happen in unexpected time n place...😉😉😉❤️💓💜👫💐💐🌈🌈😭😭🥰🥰😍😍💑
It's not that jisung likes Lee know less, it's that he's easily surprised by receiving affection. He's more calm when he gives it, for example the new iconic REAL Minsung kiss during the two part most romantic member show. He must have felt really brave that day to kiss Minho's neck like that. And, as you said in the video talking about it, Minho's reaction was too late and the rest of the member's reaction was nonexistent, meaning it was common for jisung to kiss Minho.
I think that just people do not notice very long views on vlive towards the minho from jisung. They don’t notice when he only cares about Minho, they don’t notice when he is his 1 fan, they don’t notice how his voice changes, when he talks to him, or how shy he becomes when Minho looks at him. They see a cheerful jI who tries to kiss everyone (as we know this joke to scare, not that he REALLY wants kisses), he is active, affectionate with everyone, likes to play some established relationship like a naughty little brother for binchan, husband for hyunjin, twin for felix, a man who did not get a kiss in pre-debut for jeongsung, well and two universe evils for srungmin. People think that THIS IS THE REAL JISUNG, THAT IS HOW HE MANIFESTS LOVE, ALTHOUGH the reality is far from that, he is very quiet and very caring as a boyfriend. They see that he is like that with everyone and they somehow think that Minho is in the same category, but it is obviously not so, they themselves have already talked many times about the IMPORTANCE of each other in their lives from the series WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THERE REMAINS ONE HUMAN ON EARTH. Jisung does not on camera with Minho what it does with others. And we also see Minho, who obviously has a different character and Jisung is his exception in every sense. So people think that Minho loves him like a guy, and Jisung loves him like a best friend. BUT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT SO. THEY ARE ALL MUTUAL.
seriously.. aside from being shocked and happy to see the kiss on the neck, what was equally shocking was how late LK reacted and how everyone else did not react at all.. it's like they all forgot to 'act' for the cameras
Unpopular opinion: Leeknow is very emotional and very transparent with what he feels in contrary to the major misconception (for me he got to be the most expressive one in the group like honestly he shows it when he feels sad,when he is happy, uncomfortable I really can't tell that with any of the other members{maybe its because hes my bias and I mostly concentrate on him idk})but yeah my point is the reason why people get into conclusions like this might be because of that too....he is very emotional on his relationship (whatever their relationship is) with hanji,his eyes are very different with him meanwhile, hanji I feel like he's very hard to read he is just a happy silly little guy around all members
I agree and would also like to add on to this. ( based on my opinion and observations). Leeknow is one of the most emotionally expressive members in stray kids. subconsciously. When I first started stanning them it was one of the first traits of leeknow I noticed, he is not so great at hiding emotions and no matter how hard he tries to hide it his body language always gives it away. I don’t know either what their relationship stands as but there is no doubt he has a special attachment to han. Really leeknow is such a sweetheart and really lets down a barrier around han. However when it comes to Han expressions, he really is a complex person and I do believe he is a little bit more aware of his reactions, which makes him harder to read and analyze. But at the end of the day we can only observe 😭😅
@@jisselle7717 I just laugh when stays make videos like "leeknow is not mean and cold he just has difficulty in expressing it" like everything in that sentence feels so wrong to me 😭.... Just because he don't cry oncam doesn't mean he isn't emotionally expressive.... even his simple bubble messages gives up what his current mood is up to like he is just so expressive and emotional 😭
@@humming_ rightttt, the only thing I would say is he lacks verbal expression and a little bit physical (he really likes personal space) and that’s why is always mistaken for him being “cold” but if they really payed attention they would see that in every other category he is expressive and is probably the top most kind-hearted member in skz. shii maybe even the most kind idol😭 I can literally compliment him all day
@@jisselle7717they don't even need to pay that much attention like I just watched one or two skz content and his personality is what made me more curious about them... I really adore his personality like I really do I can talk about it all day...my forever best boy 😭
@@humming_ true I think a lot of the time the people who think he’s mean cant read through sarcasm or humor and are just trying to find a way to hate…it’s so annoying like don’t these people have hobbies
Don't you love when a fandom is saying about shipping is They don't care if it's platonic or whatever But they are living there idols happy and finding comfort in their group with other members I love this comment section I love minsung too They are soulmates and livin' their life happily even behind the camera There are so many hardships but they have each other Skz has each other + Most importantly they have stay by their side ❤️
Your last message is so important. They are 2 completely different people. Han tends to be more shy and reserved where as Lee know is open and LOUD. I'm having trouble taking people seriously who think the relationship they have is one sided. You can literally pick out ANY moment they're together and see how much they care for each other. Thank you again for such a wonderful video and analysis. We love you Yongbokis sausage Stan for life ❤️
28:10 has always been one of my favourite moments of them! The way Han ran to Lee Know after he scored, the way he held his head & neck, the way LK immediately put his arms around Han's waist/hip 😩🥺🥰 Such a cute wholesome moment ♥️ And of course the famous sexy dance!! They were wild! From Day 1! That's how you know it's real 🥺😩 And YES!! That 'come closer/my lover' part and LK pointing at Han was hella SUS!! And so bold! 😲 Well, I also love how they keep us fed with their cute interactions on stage 🥰🥰 Anyways, we're never recovering from the back hug swinging+ neck kiss. Ever!!
I do not care what kind of relationship they have, but I am interested in relationship dynamics and different ways to display affection. What we see is a development of what they want to show as they gained in both experience, age and popularity. We know they review everything they do. They watch STAYS reactions too. So, they are conscious about or at least aware of how they look. Even so, there is no one in the world that acts the exactly same way all the time. You cannot always feel flirty. You cannot always be open for physical or emotional closeness. You cannot always be as close as you wish due to work, different interests, diverging time schedules. That is the truth for any relationship. The trustful intimacy by eyecontact and physical nearness has however been there all along, and that's what makes us all like them so. It's very rare in a world of individuality and solitary strength to see vunerability and openess be even stronger. But it is.
They just don’t show the intimacy that there is between them in real life on camera, mostly it’s all the moments when the camera accidentally notices them, they are quite calm when giving interviews being close to each other, laughing. But then behind the scenes we see them looking for each other, constantly sitting comfortably together, standing together, communicating with each other very gently without jokes and their whole body gives out relaxation and comfort. It’s obvious how they rest in each other’s presence.
han was also keeping tempo for him. lk said he was tapping him to help keep him on beat. han couldve tapped him in so many other ways to help him, but he chose to hold lk's hand 🥺♥
9:30 changbin always being around further proves he’s the president of minsung. it makes me giggle how he’s ALWAYS there for it😂 11:27 crying hans face 😭😭 that. if you look closely you’ll see me crying in the corner over how sweet this is 12:18 i’m sorry but i cackled “lix watches han being whipped” sent me to the floor 😂 13:08 not hannie falling off the stool😭 the mission lino had a few minutes back of needing han to say i love you reminded me of how someone said lino doesn’t say han’s name once. he say it at least two or more times🥹 16:52 CHANGBIN SEES EVERYTHING OMFG😭😂 18:42 y’all get someone who looks at you like han looks at lino🥹🥹 19:29 “just k i s s” im weak😂 19:52 stop those are the cheesiest sweet smiles omfg ^reminds me chan pushing han towards lino and he shuffles over but smiles so wide😭🩷 my heart literally can’t take this sweetness i plan to do this for the entire video because these moments are too cute to contain myself💀 20:39 hyunjins reaction and han’s lack of denial will forever be cemented in my brain. especially 🥟 reaction💀 gods i need someone to share this with😂 i need stay friends 😤 25:08 sorry han.exe has stopped working 26:12 i know this entire video is minsung but it makes me lose my mind 😂 i want someone to look at me like that😭😭 37:25 it might have been another video by this same youtuber but the pictures of lino make half a heart👀 41:43 “and so the game started” i can’t 💀 ^for future me this was the last place you left off
In 52:16 when Jisung is literally super loud (as always XD) I had to think of their reaction to Your Eyes. Jisung was also super loud and jumpy(?) when seeing the others, but when Minho's scene appeared, he suddenly calmed down (externally). He barely reacted and didn't have any words left to say anything. And many people are probably thinking something like 'But if he likes him, shouldn't it be the other way around? He should be reacting to Minho more than to the others!' - not necessarily! When it comes to things like that, you shouldn't look at WHAT happens without looking at WHEN it happens before. It's all about the CHANGES in his body language. If he was constantly restless before and suddenly sits still, it would be just as important as when he didn't react the whole thing and then gets restless or fidgety. It's about the CHANGE. (PS: I'm not trying to steal your attention Yongboki's Sausage, I just get kinda soaked up in the flow when watching your videos 😅 I really admire your content sm!)
Yep, I completely agree. What normal people don't get is that there's not only ONE right way to express your love or feelings...it's the change in your attitude that shows your different feelings around your special someone and we can see it so clearly within Minsung...
@@bansheeeierkuchenkiller yes! totally! Like recently when a friend of mine asked me whether I knew what certain types of behavior meant. I tried to explain to her that you can't really say that from just WHAT without the WHEN. Everyone is different. And like you said, you can really see it with Minsung.
Similar to people acting cold/silent towards someone they really like but loud and chatty to their friends/other people.. I found it so adorable that he looks a bit hypnotised when lee know was “falling asleep” on the mv
Minsung are the perfect example of real world soulmates. How amazing is it that the moment their lives really clicked together was caught on camera that first time Minho held Han’s hand. I was in a terribly down mood before this ❤ I would say you don’t know how much good this does, but you clearly understand how much so many of us need this.
Well, they became very close even before the debut, i.e. before the show. In fact, Minho was the first one to hold his hand when Jisung was very nervous before the show. And then when JYP told LK to read the rap for the first time. Actually sometimes I think how close they were that Jisung didn't want him to leave so badly that he could help him in a second, I don't know who else would do that to Minho, I don't think anybody. There was a strong competition after all.
Remember then they went on a picnic when minho was kicked out and they showed a message from minho, everyone cried. then in one of the episodes of the 9 again showed that message from minho, all the guys including minho laughed, but jisung was very sad, it was very hard for him
Yes that handholding when they were young is lovely to have on camera. It seemed an instant connection that has grown to be something deep and genuine. They’re so lucky the stars were aligned for them to meet. I adore them both.
The Han rap 7:00 is very those letters from 200 yrs ago which talk about love, beauty, adoration and yearning between two men who historians deem to be besties who are known for their dinner parties and slept in the same bed. 💅
Curious for me is that they claim to be bestest of friends, soulmates, the members always saying they have great chemistry, and yet we dont see HJ being clingy or flirty or friendly to LK like we see with the others when the cameras are on, and we dont see LK flirting with HJ the same obvious way he does to Hyujin or Changbin for example... Am I making sense? Because, I know they always choose eo and always compliment eo, but when its time to make the fanservice that we love seeing we dont always get it... Its makes me think that there is so much going on off cameras, that they dont show us because for those two it has a deeper meaning... I really hope they continue this whole mistery that revolves them, the secret hand holding, the longing stares and all the body language sh*t that we know is there, as long as we from the outside continue to suport them, I think thats enough, and both of them know it 😊
Around 23 minutes in where they are on Vlive and Seungmin is sitting by LeeKnow. There was definitely something going on we don't know. LeeKnow doesnt seem as confident and more shut in than he usually is, something was wrong and Han saw it right away. Han knew Leeknow was in distress and wanted to comfort him. Then when Han took Seungmin's seat LeeKnow reaches out and is holding Han's knee, almost like to anchor himself? Han moved closer and kissed his head, leaned on him, etc to comfort him and help him feel safe. After that Leeknow lightens up, he starts smiling and laughing in the vlive. No matter what you think or whatever their relationship is, they deeply care about each other. They are so caring and loving towards each other. It's very beautiful. I'm so happy they have each other to lean on. I hope their relationship/friendship will always be strong and a happy one ❤️🫶🏻
For real, I didn’t know how the situation could be up to that point if you don’t cmt abt it, and we don’t know if his other hand doing sth behind LK back too, which I’m sure he did sth there and tried to avoid camera
The whole video feels like a romantic movie but that neck kiss still makes me feel butterflies in my tummy that's the cutest moment I can't get it over 😍
I find it interesting that people think that Han doesn't love Lee Know, or show affection. In most of the clips that I've seen (especially from your videos), it appears to be mostly Han showing affection in my mind. I might be remembering wrong, but most of the clips that I remember are with Han instigating the affection, or showing the signs... I feel like it's Lee Know that tends to try and hide it more so... Thank you for this video! May all of the members continue to grow together, love, support, and respect each other for many years to come! 🥰🥰🥰
Right. I also felt like Han liked Lee Know more tbh. It was only after I watched two kids room and the members said they feel like Lee know couldn’t live without Han that I started feeling like Lee know might like Han just as much tbh
maybe because han was always flirting with other members too..he was like that with everyone.. but if you see clearly there are different flirting when he with lee know and other member..with lee know he kind of shy and more flustered..
@@zsrstI just only had that thought when they said so during 2 kids room, that’s sound sad they said Han is good without Lino, I don’t ever think it’s true, but it’s easy to learn that LK loves him he doesn’t show the same energy or much efforts when it comes to others but with Han he does, but it’s hard to see Han showing his real love so ppl may think he doesn’t love LK more than the others, but I saw he came to the company at late night to make sure LK took rest and went home with him, best friends may not do that but love and special care does
At 36:52 the situation is literally ANY friend group that is pretty close having a sleepover. And the coughing and teasing is just another tell. Close friends ALWAYS tease each other about their crushes and relationships. Whether it be official, unofficial or not even confessed, the teasing is there. I can't even count on my fingers anymore how often stray kids tease Minsung. And they tease them just equally as much as they are like 'oh god here we go again, we're so done with you guys, seriously'. If you're not sure whether you can read the behavior of certain people when it comes to their relationship; read their friends, sometimes it'll tell you even more.
Oh yesyesyesyes Jisung my lovely bias wrecker Edit: WAIT I JUST SAW ITS AN HOUR LONG, BRO THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFFFEEEEEEEEEEEE, IM GONNA WATCH THIS ALL NIGHT. Also thank your for uploading this and take your many deserved breaks and time to enjoy whatever it is you wanna do ahaha
Around 56:57 when Jisung laughs it's just ADORABLE. Like idk if it's just me, but I feel like he laughs kinda differently when it comes to Minho. Like when Minho (or Jisung himself) says/does something funny or even if it's just him laughing when he's around him. I don't know if this is a psychological fact, but I can definitely tell you: If I'm around people I like (a lot), I tend to laugh more and differently. Not just because I like being around them or because they make me happy. It's because I want them to feel kinda... appreciated? I just want them to know that I feel comfortable around them, that I think they are funny/cool/sweet etc. And I'm pretty sure I'm not just talking for myself.
They have a beautiful bond, some people must say whatever they want, but nobody, no one anywhere must be with a person that makes you feel uncomfortable. Han and Lee Know faces tell that they feel comfortable with each other.❤❤🐰🐰🐿🐿❤❤❤❤😍😍🤞🏻🤞🏻✌🏻✌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
From the very beggining of getting into the Minsung world, I was very confused why most people think that Lee Know loves Han more (or that he is more obivoius with his feelings). For me Minho is a better at hidding feelings, expect for the many moments when he is gazing at Han with the stars in his eyes.♥ And well, he also sometimes speaks before he thinks. 😆 Han, on the other hand, is so bad at pretending/acting (he says that himself many times) that I always saw him as an open book. Have you seen him getting shy just by looking at Lee Know? How many times he said iloveyou to him with the cutest face? How many times he acted like he's being paid by JYP to be Minho's biggest cheerleader? ☺
Omgoodness, thank you for this video SO MUCH! I absolutely adore these two. I'm a new stay, but I was drawn to Minsung straight away. I'm also a people watcher and have a lifelong fascination with "reading between the lines" or seeing what's happening with people without them directly saying it. Body language is a proven science and if you understand it, there is so much to learn from observing people and how they behave along with what they say. These two boys absolutely love each other no matter on what level that is. I give people a pass most of the time when they say things like Han not really caring about Minho because I understand that many people are very literal and simply don't have the ability to comprehend what their eyes see over what they hear. I do get more annoyed though by the one's who insist that they're just friends and attack those of us that see more and voice it. I feel that they speak from either homophobia or a really weird sense that they think they might actually have a chance with their idol that they fantasize about. I also feel that it is very damaging because it's that kind of behaviour that makes it hard for queer people to be open and comfortable with who they really are. It forces them to hide, and allows the perpetuation of shame for loving someone of the same sex. If they love their idols as they claim, they should simply be happy that their idols might be happy in their chosen partner. Any way, I will probably watch this video a few times. It just makes be so happy to see their relationship bloom and flourish. They have sacrificed their youth and given up so much of themselves to please their fans. I just want them to be happy.
this is the best video i’ve ever seen literally, I LOVE that you can really see how much they care about each other. There is also a little cute minsung scene in the beginning of the new freeze dance practice. Lee know makes heart hands to Han and he gets really flustered, you should check it out! Keep up the good work❤
I am not forcing a relashioship on them,I just wated to say that whatever they have rather it's platonic or not ,the admiration they have for each other and joy they have when being togheter, really captivates me every time😭
Me too lmfao😭 (I even paused the video and went back from time to time to make sure I read everything correctly since I can't read English as fast as my morher tongue)
I'm not a pro when it comes to body language, but starting at 09:54 Jisungs eyes widen a bit whenever he glances at Minho, which is a big tell (from what I know). If we don't like something we tend to squint our eyes, our pupils get smaller, we cover our eyes or even turn away from whatever triggered that reaction. Our brain just tells us 'we don't wanna see that'. In contrast, we widen our eyes or our pupils dilate when seeing something we like. Or we turn to the thing we like (if the thing we like is the topic, we'll be likely to turn to the one who's talking about it) - our brain tells us 'look! we like that, so we want to see it!'. You can clearly see Jisung having his eyes a normal size when looking at the camera. Then, whenever he catches a glimpse of Minho, his eyes widen. Sometimes just slightly, but sometimes A LOT. When he looks at Changbin, this doesn't happen. Also, Changbin's eyes don't widen when looking at Minho either. (When Jisung looks at Changbin/Changbin looks at Minho, their eyes could widen barely but a certain amount is normal for friends if I'm not mistaken.) Like I said, you don't gotta trust what I say, I'm not a professional, but at least look at it yourself - you'll see what I mean.
I don't think you can see it very well here but I think in the original clip from 54:22 Felix saw that Jisung tried to get Minho's attention (after Minho ignored their 'Step Out'). When he saw, he kinda snickered then tapped Jeongin and pointed it out to him. Then Lix and I.N both grinned at each other in a way that looked like that 'you know what I'm talking about' face. Just a moment that I remembered :)
Damnnnn, in this video there are so many times Han called LK “Jagi/Baby” and he wasn’t aware of the camera/ live stream so he just called him so and realized he was tooooo late to hold that back 😂
I Think the affection they felt when they met Grows with them and before they were more spontaneous and Today they "control their Reactions" in front of the cameras More
I love their interactions they are so wholesome but I still don't want to force any relationship on them if they are actually in a relationship I am going to support them but if they are just comfortable around each other them we should not make them awkward by forcing them in a relationship or something like that.....still this pair is my favorite 😍
My eyes going to burn.... My heart going to blast... My godness,,, I can't handled this love... 🥺 I wanna cryyyy 😭😭😭... I really love Minsung and Hyunlix... But this is, I have no words left... Thank you for making this... ❤🥺
Do you ever just sit there and get hit in the face with the fact that even when they’re all out in public together that Han will still go to Lee Know first because Lee Know is his safe space. 🙃
At 59:40 I think it’s weird no one addresses what Han is actually saying by asking if Minho wants to make a lovely breakfast with him. That’s more sus than literally anything else in this video and I love this interaction so much because it’s so telling. Also, I can’t believe I’m sitting through more than an hour watching moments I already know a lot about but that’s how good you are 🙏🏻
55:12- I'm sorry, I got soooooo distracted by Chan and I had to timestamp for.... reasons. But I think it's easy for people to think Han like LK more because he's super outward with his expressions- like he's introverted, but his expressions are his tell-all- it's like it's harder for him to not show how he's feeling sometimes I think, especially around LK. LK is a little more subtle, unless he's super embarrassed I think. When I first got into kpop I had no idea what actual relationships were like because I'd never been in one. Now that I'm older and I've had my fair share of interactions and relationships, I find myself nodding and smiling at some things they do in a very fond way because it makes me reminiscent of when I had crushes or SOs. Regardless of anything, they're so cute and obviously care about each other and have a very significant bond. Also- these videos have become all time favorites of mine- because WOW the DETAIL and the way everything is broken down second by second. Its so good!🙌🙌
Whether they are friends or lovers..bless them and go on with your life instead of trying to hate. No one has the right to interfere in their personal lives. We should focus on the music and shows they do. Try not to create the life of tje celebrity you like ..a living hell by stalking or obessing over them.
i may have to watch this another time bc THIS IS A WHOLE HOUR LONGGGG. i may forget tho but i love watching stays make long videos, doesn’t matter if it’s a topic i don’t wanna hear, i still love them only bc it feels like… ☆A MYSTERY UNSOLVED☆ idk they’re just fun
@@biancawanabanawannabe i’ll prob watch it like this weekend, since it’s a long weekend. and i was right, i did forget abt it, but i’m totally gonna watch its someday!
Si Hannie ❤es joven,muy joven pero bien maduro en lo que quiere y ama por ello es un artista en el canto,danza y toca varios instrumentos musicales...pero lo mas compositor🎶🎼o sea es bien culto,preparado para ser idol..y uno bueno...por ello debe pasar varias solo..cuidate mi cielo,esa situacion entre seungmin y minho ya sabian que nacia algo entre ellos...pero TÚ no fallaste...dejalos dolod y vivan su vida...y tú mi cielo lindo camina adelante sin incomodar a nadie...cuidate mucho mi vida❤
i love ur channel so so much and your analysis are to the point and makes me feel so positive about them after getting dissed by others. thank u for making them
6:06 Minho is dying inside. I mean...look at him. 17:18 Meanwhile Chan giving himself hearts in Vlive 🤌 K-pop idols having physical touch with each others is normal, but Minsung is different. Idk, they are so real...
Me thinking this was gonna be an hour long video explaining why Jisung doesn't like Lee Know: 😑😠 Me realizing its an hour long video shipping MinSung: 🥰☺
hello, idk if u will see this and i mean this with absolutely 0 hate or bad intentions, but in the videos at 3:16 and 3:46 han was uncomfortable for unrelated and serious reasons. the first video, where he's looking up at lk, was taken by a han sasaeng in an airport. you can see how lk tries to move in front of the camera trying to cover han since the ssg was invading their space. in the second video, i think it's from a variety show (?) but han was feeling uncomfortable throughout the entire video, most probably bc of his anxiety. labeling his anxious body language as "jealousy" doesn't sit right with me. i would really appreciate if you don't use those videos anymore, because when you know the context, it seems as if you are making light of the serious situations and of what han was feeling (not saying you were doing this on purpose, i found out ab the first video's origin like last month or so and up until then i thought of it as a cute moment between them). again, i don't even know if you read all your comments or if you will even find this one, but if you respect han i think thw correct thing is to not use those two videos anymore (and sorry if i come out as rude, i really wrote this to inform you, not to acuse or offend you!!)
I was sad when Chanbin and Seungmin said that Han can live fine without Lee Know but Lee Know cant without Han. I think Han is extroverted so he takes energy from every member. But Lee Know is quiet and doesnt need that much interactions.
I can’t speak for them but I think I’m similar to Han in a way, as in I’m also an introvert who desperately needs to recharge (after having any social interaction) but has no problem at all ,when with people, to be loud and expressive. I think it’s sometimes hard for people to understand my signs of affection. Im super clingy to all my friends when we are together, like Han. I used to get people asking if I was dating all of my friends because when I was around them I am the most affectionate. However when I’m alone I never really contact anyone , I’m the least sociable because I need to recharge. The reason why I think their ship might be real is because it reminds me a lot of my own relationship with my boyfriend/best friend. When we are with other friends I might be slightly more clingy to him then others but not significantly so, the real difference comes in the downtime. I found myself being ok recharging when he was nearby which never happened, and I didn’t mind texting and calling him. It wasn’t a choice I made consciously, it was as if one day my mind just decided he was a safe space for me. Anyway I just wanted to share because I drew a parallel to how I think people mistake that Han doesn’t love him as much, because in my eyes I think he might even love him more. I don’t think people always appreciate how difficult it is for an introvert to allow someone into their down time like that even if it is just to sit there. It shows more love than any sweet words or ski ship. Anyway yeah sorry for the rant.
Don't tell me you are not a writer because the way you explained introversion beats any thing I ( an intrivert) have read. I wish I could print your reply and keep flyers to paste on people's face for when they ask me why am I like this( not socializing for months and more) 😂😂😂
Han is introverted thus not a clingy person. I think this is why Lee Know fits him well. LK gives him space to be quiet and alone because LK is comfortable with silence. LK is not as emotionally inward as Hyunjin. He’s like Changbin and Chan, in tune with people’s feeling around him. His non intrusive companionship makes Han feel really at home. They both can be themselves in private together. LK is also a good listener. He can probably listen to Han for hours with a smile. And then he’d say a few key words to sum it up for Han, that’d make Han go WoW.
Well introverted people can be clingy too, to some people they like.
imagine writing a whole essay about people you dont even really know, like wow do you actually realize that you dont really know them personally or ...
@@aureliesene4487 that's not an essay...
love this comment
@Kdramamama yo moma
Even though I know all the moments, I will still watch this for 1 hour...
Bro, this comment is mine
This 😂😂
I know all their moments sinse 2017 I remember them very well, but still smile so silly when I rewatch these moments, you feel the love here
This
And I add myf on this 😂
IN has literally talked about how he's had to learn to read the room and when to leave the two of them to themselves. This means it's very mutual. So weird that people think it isn't.
Right, Poor baby he said he was young and didn’t know how to read the room, ain’t it clear enough
IN SAID WHAT
@@cherubimbap7618 If you watch the most recent Minsung 2 Kids Room from last year, IN mentions he would sometimes hang around and not read the room in regards to those two and had to learn when to peace out
@@xChijouChanxhe had to learn when to just D I P 😂
@@xChijouChanxsweet baby bread 🥹♥️
I think the main reason why people assume that lee know likes han more, is because han is just generally quite clingy and sweet with all the members, but lee know on the other hand really acts differently around him than any of the other members. It's the way he shows very obvious affection by staring, smiling, getting all soft and letting things han does or says slide, just because it's him. With han it's a lot of affection that becomes very obvious once you actually take a closer look at body language and all the subconscious things he does, which is quite hard to filter out if you don't know anything about it.
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This!!! If you only look at the clingy/flirty side you will find nothing. He's like that with every member. It's just the way he is. You need to take a closer look and start spotting the diferences
Yes and there were times in older videos where Han showed a jealous side when Lee Know gave attention to other's. I think he really learned that it doesn't matter because they are soulmates. Like he said in their last 2 kids room together Han knows Lee Know is his goldfish.
This comment explains minsung so well
Although han just make the shy side of himself to leeknow . He cant flirt with him sometimes and doesnt make eye contact like in golden disc
If you think about it Minho came into JYP 1 to 2 months BEFORE the survival started then isn't it INSANE how they were already pretty touchy-freely and affectionate with each other when they were STILL BASICALLY STRANGER ?????!!! They started showing interest right away and their bond grew from there to what was show in the survival. Like it was instant connection ! Love at first sight (?) !!
Yes, it was love at first sight. In fact, one month. Jisung called them soulmates from pre-debut, so immediately their connection became very strong, and pre-debut boys were very closed personalities, boys couldn't cope with teenage hormones hanji for many years, and here he meets a quiet boy and the most beautiful man on earth according to him and understands that being strange is normal, they find many common themes and hobbies and little alien jisung has a soulmate for life. they really tweaked each other's characters that way. it's not for nothing that in the first album they wrote about each other "it's fun with you, it's good to have you here"
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Could you tell me more about "in the first album they wrote about each other"?
It hasn't been long since I became STAY.
I'm sorry if the sentence is strange because I used a translator.
Don’t mind me.. just leaving a comment here cause I wanna know too
I've never ever thought of this, and as I've loved bts for looong now I thought "is like jk and v, they are just very close since so long, this isn't sexual" but now this...😅
@@francjuy oh yes! I am an army too,and i had the exact thought just like you. But then somehow I saw those little things,which seperate them from V-Jk's relationship 🫂
Imo, they have one of the most healthiest relationship ever, romantic or platonic idk but their relationship dynamic is so damn perfect.
I can't express it in words properly because I'm sobbing too much rn. Maybe later idk.
But it's just that they're soulmates.
Thank you to you for uploading this.
It has my heart
Deep mutual respect, they are very empathetic and understanding, they can tell by the eyes what the problem is, even if the person does not say they feel bad, they have one brain for two, they have a lot of fun together, they can both forget about their problems next to each other. They even feel comfortable sitting or lying in silence together. They know that they always have someone who will be 100% on their side in any arguments and conflicts, who will protect and understand. They don't like to fight. They love to praise each other and tell everyone that they are #1 for each other. They have absolute trust and love.
They are even genuinely interested in each other's hobbies. There is not even any professional envy in their relationship.
I don't think it's always been healthy tho. Lee Know can be seen being aggressive physically towards Han while Han just stands there; smiling. One time, Han slightly touched Lee Know's shoulder and smiled at Lee Know but, in return, Lee Know hit Han's shoulder with full force while he had a serious face on... It was so serious from an outsider view point that Chan had to come in and ask if everything was okay but Han was just smiling... maybe it was shock? Fear? Tolerance? Whatever it was, Han seemed to be the only one smiling. Sometimes, Han had to bend with Lee Know's antics and just let Lee Know win over... this is why most of the time Han looks so inactive and hence why people think Han is just being tolerant and is not really into it. Although, nowadays, it seems to be healthier with Lee know being more gentle with Han and Han becoming more active... still, sometimes Lee know acts as if he is ignoring Han's entire existence... and only comes around when he wants some affection
@@thatguybutitsactuallyagirl5384 your comment is hella creepy.. like you just assumed their whole dynamic by giving one (unconfirmed) example. can you please say, what exact moment are you talking about?
@@thatguybutitsactuallyagirl5384 whoa.. we aren't privy to their real relationship so i doubt that we can really know what goes on between them.. let's not put things out on the internet that might seem disparaging for one or the other.. we all have our moods and tensions sometimes that affect how we behave with one another.. I do agree they seem to be more than just normal friends, and good for them if they are
Ok, I'm straight married woman, but literally, a blind person would notice there is something very deep in between them. This group is together for more than 4 years now, obviously fan service in kpop in very present. They should win an Oscar if that what it is. Lino is very sensitive and kind person that probably loves Hannie more than anything. You can see on most of Minsung interactions with Stray Kids they don't even " raise brow" because it's just normal for them. I just love them so much🥰
Me too
I'm a straight, divorced woman and I can tell that what is happening between Lee know and Han is real. It's just not fan service. I feel as if maybe something is up though and maybe it's the staff. I just wished they could be free and open without any issues. I just love what they have.
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The best part is that most of their sensual interactions happen off camera, not when they are asked to say something in talker. All of their tender communication takes place behind the scenes and we happen to "catch" these moments.
@@mommy4bratz4 Well, JYP has a rule that groups that debut from them can't date for the first 3 years. SKZ debuted in 2018. So starting from 2021 they were 'allowed' to date from that point on. But in many Asian countries, if you're 'famous' you probably shouldn't because 'fans' can ruin you if you don't do or say what they want you to say if you 'come out as dating' someone. It doesn't matter who it is. Most of the 'scandals' that 'famous' people have are usually regarding who they are 'dating' or 'interested in' at the time. If you never make official statements regarding your private life, you can't get into scandals like that. Plus, Minsung could just be attracted to eachother and are 'together' but aren't 'official' if you know what I mean. Like you don't have to actually say you are dating or that the other person is your significant other/boyfriend etc... My husband never asked me to be his girlfriend but we got together. So technically you can be together without actually asking the other person.
Oh I should also mention it's not just 'fans' that are a problem, it's the country too. Korea isn't as accepting with same-sex stuff as US is. It's unfortunate but that's how it is.
At 1:12:05 what makes it even more sincere is that Lee Know wasn’t feeling well at all at that concert and was really out of it (they announced that he had covid a few days after) me friends and I noticed he was struggling through most of the show and Hannie clearly noticed too.
Also when he was squeezing Minho’s arm, it’s a helpful thing I learned that calm people. It helps a lot with anxiety and stress so I’m guessing it’s something han is aware of and decided it would be helpful to Minho. It was a subtle interaction but it was really sincere and through the whole concert Han was checking in on him
What you're referring to is called grounding ☺ usually helps with anxiety attacks or panic attacks (yes, they are different), but a firm physical touch to someone can help them "ground" themselves to keep their minds from wandering or "brings them back to earth".
Really, I love that moment a lottttt, that is one of the most favorite mmts to me, sadly my cat did not feel well during concert and he had to rest several days, too
Their relationship is unique and very special they are connecting everytime if there's something which is not right to them..i really love their tender loving care relationship which is really something different fr the others Members it's beyond only them can know. Love just happen in unexpected time n place...😉😉😉❤️💓💜👫💐💐🌈🌈😭😭🥰🥰😍😍💑
It's not that jisung likes Lee know less, it's that he's easily surprised by receiving affection. He's more calm when he gives it, for example the new iconic REAL Minsung kiss during the two part most romantic member show. He must have felt really brave that day to kiss Minho's neck like that. And, as you said in the video talking about it, Minho's reaction was too late and the rest of the member's reaction was nonexistent, meaning it was common for jisung to kiss Minho.
I think that just people do not notice very long views on vlive towards the minho from jisung. They don’t notice when he only cares about Minho, they don’t notice when he is his 1 fan, they don’t notice how his voice changes, when he talks to him, or how shy he becomes when Minho looks at him. They see a cheerful jI who tries to kiss everyone (as we know this joke to scare, not that he REALLY wants kisses), he is active, affectionate with everyone, likes to play some established relationship like a naughty little brother for binchan, husband for hyunjin, twin for felix, a man who did not get a kiss in pre-debut for jeongsung, well and two universe evils for srungmin. People think that THIS IS THE REAL JISUNG, THAT IS HOW HE MANIFESTS LOVE, ALTHOUGH the reality is far from that, he is very quiet and very caring as a boyfriend. They see that he is like that with everyone and they somehow think that Minho is in the same category, but it is obviously not so, they themselves have already talked many times about the IMPORTANCE of each other in their lives from the series WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THERE REMAINS ONE HUMAN ON EARTH. Jisung does not on camera with Minho what it does with others. And we also see Minho, who obviously has a different character and Jisung is his exception in every sense. So people think that Minho loves him like a guy, and Jisung loves him like a best friend. BUT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT SO. THEY ARE ALL MUTUAL.
seriously.. aside from being shocked and happy to see the kiss on the neck, what was equally shocking was how late LK reacted and how everyone else did not react at all.. it's like they all forgot to 'act' for the cameras
@@shayenadsouza4702 ikr? And the heart rate!? 😂😂
Unpopular opinion:
Leeknow is very emotional and very transparent with what he feels in contrary to the major misconception (for me he got to be the most expressive one in the group like honestly he shows it when he feels sad,when he is happy, uncomfortable I really can't tell that with any of the other members{maybe its because hes my bias and I mostly concentrate on him idk})but yeah my point is the reason why people get into conclusions like this might be because of that too....he is very emotional on his relationship (whatever their relationship is) with hanji,his eyes are very different with him meanwhile, hanji I feel like he's very hard to read he is just a happy silly little guy around all members
I agree and would also like to add on to this. ( based on my opinion and observations). Leeknow is one of the most emotionally expressive members in stray kids. subconsciously. When I first started stanning them it was one of the first traits of leeknow I noticed, he is not so great at hiding emotions and no matter how hard he tries to hide it his body language always gives it away. I don’t know either what their relationship stands as but there is no doubt he has a special attachment to han. Really leeknow is such a sweetheart and really lets down a barrier around han. However when it comes to Han expressions, he really is a complex person and I do believe he is a little bit more aware of his reactions, which makes him harder to read and analyze. But at the end of the day we can only observe 😭😅
@@jisselle7717 I just laugh when stays make videos like "leeknow is not mean and cold he just has difficulty in expressing it" like everything in that sentence feels so wrong to me 😭.... Just because he don't cry oncam doesn't mean he isn't emotionally expressive.... even his simple bubble messages gives up what his current mood is up to like he is just so expressive and emotional 😭
@@humming_ rightttt, the only thing I would say is he lacks verbal expression and a little bit physical (he really likes personal space) and that’s why is always mistaken for him being “cold” but if they really payed attention they would see that in every other category he is expressive and is probably the top most kind-hearted member in skz. shii maybe even the most kind idol😭 I can literally compliment him all day
@@jisselle7717they don't even need to pay that much attention like I just watched one or two skz content and his personality is what made me more curious about them... I really adore his personality like I really do I can talk about it all day...my forever best boy 😭
@@humming_ true I think a lot of the time the people who think he’s mean cant read through sarcasm or humor and are just trying to find a way to hate…it’s so annoying like don’t these people have hobbies
We're so far gone that a 1.5 hr video won't deter us lmao 💀💀
If anything, it spurs us on 😂
Facts lmao 🤣 I was like cheering
Lmfaooo
FR---
Seriously tho. I saw the time and was like 😲 ooo this is gonna be good! 😂
Don't you love when a fandom is saying about shipping is
They don't care if it's platonic or whatever
But they are living there idols happy and finding comfort in their group with other members
I love this comment section
I love minsung too
They are soulmates and livin' their life happily even behind the camera
There are so many hardships but they have each other
Skz has each other
+ Most importantly they have stay by their side ❤️
I was expecting like a 10 minute video, not AN HOUR AND 20+ MINS !?
LOVE THIS THANK YOU!
Your last message is so important. They are 2 completely different people. Han tends to be more shy and reserved where as Lee know is open and LOUD. I'm having trouble taking people seriously who think the relationship they have is one sided. You can literally pick out ANY moment they're together and see how much they care for each other. Thank you again for such a wonderful video and analysis. We love you Yongbokis sausage Stan for life ❤️
28:10 has always been one of my favourite moments of them! The way Han ran to Lee Know after he scored, the way he held his head & neck, the way LK immediately put his arms around Han's waist/hip 😩🥺🥰
Such a cute wholesome moment ♥️
And of course the famous sexy dance!! They were wild! From Day 1! That's how you know it's real 🥺😩
And YES!! That 'come closer/my lover' part and LK pointing at Han was hella SUS!! And so bold! 😲
Well, I also love how they keep us fed with their cute interactions on stage 🥰🥰 Anyways, we're never recovering from the back hug swinging+ neck kiss. Ever!!
why do I see you in EVERY.SINGLE minsung video? like seriously!! your everything 😭😭
I do not care what kind of relationship they have, but I am interested in relationship dynamics and different ways to display affection.
What we see is a development of what they want to show as they gained in both experience, age and popularity. We know they review everything they do. They watch STAYS reactions too. So, they are conscious about or at least aware of how they look. Even so, there is no one in the world that acts the exactly same way all the time. You cannot always feel flirty. You cannot always be open for physical or emotional closeness. You cannot always be as close as you wish due to work, different interests, diverging time schedules. That is the truth for any relationship. The trustful intimacy by eyecontact and physical nearness has however been there all along, and that's what makes us all like them so. It's very rare in a world of individuality and solitary strength to see vunerability and openess be even stronger. But it is.
They just don’t show the intimacy that there is between them in real life on camera, mostly it’s all the moments when the camera accidentally notices them, they are quite calm when giving interviews being close to each other, laughing. But then behind the scenes we see them looking for each other, constantly sitting comfortably together, standing together, communicating with each other very gently without jokes and their whole body gives out relaxation and comfort. It’s obvious how they rest in each other’s presence.
I love the fact that they were almost strangers when han held lk hand to comfort him when he was nervous about rapping
han was also keeping tempo for him. lk said he was tapping him to help keep him on beat. han couldve tapped him in so many other ways to help him, but he chose to hold lk's hand 🥺♥
9:30 changbin always being around further proves he’s the president of minsung. it makes me giggle how he’s ALWAYS there for it😂
11:27 crying hans face 😭😭 that. if you look closely you’ll see me crying in the corner over how sweet this is
12:18 i’m sorry but i cackled “lix watches han being whipped” sent me to the floor 😂
13:08 not hannie falling off the stool😭
the mission lino had a few minutes back of needing han to say i love you reminded me of how someone said lino doesn’t say han’s name once. he say it at least two or more times🥹
16:52 CHANGBIN SEES EVERYTHING OMFG😭😂
18:42 y’all get someone who looks at you like han looks at lino🥹🥹
19:29 “just k i s s” im weak😂
19:52 stop those are the cheesiest sweet smiles omfg
^reminds me chan pushing han towards lino and he shuffles over but smiles so wide😭🩷 my heart literally can’t take this sweetness
i plan to do this for the entire video because these moments are too cute to contain myself💀
20:39 hyunjins reaction and han’s lack of denial will forever be cemented in my brain. especially 🥟 reaction💀
gods i need someone to share this with😂 i need stay friends 😤
25:08 sorry han.exe has stopped working
26:12 i know this entire video is minsung but it makes me lose my mind 😂 i want someone to look at me like that😭😭
37:25 it might have been another video by this same youtuber but the pictures of lino make half a heart👀
41:43 “and so the game started” i can’t 💀
^for future me this was the last place you left off
I would love an analysis video of the members reactions to minsung. I feel like it'd be different and fun.
Yes
I need the same hourly version but with Minho 😭
Mary K preaching for us in the back 😤🥺❤️
but pls pls if you can have one for Minho tooo🙏
@@parkchaeyoung1942 FR HELPP😭😭😭 (i would watch it all)
In 52:16 when Jisung is literally super loud (as always XD) I had to think of their reaction to Your Eyes.
Jisung was also super loud and jumpy(?) when seeing the others, but when Minho's scene appeared, he suddenly calmed down (externally). He barely reacted and didn't have any words left to say anything.
And many people are probably thinking something like 'But if he likes him, shouldn't it be the other way around? He should be reacting to Minho more than to the others!' - not necessarily!
When it comes to things like that, you shouldn't look at WHAT happens without looking at WHEN it happens before. It's all about the CHANGES in his body language.
If he was constantly restless before and suddenly sits still, it would be just as important as when he didn't react the whole thing and then gets restless or fidgety.
It's about the CHANGE.
(PS: I'm not trying to steal your attention Yongboki's Sausage, I just get kinda soaked up in the flow when watching your videos 😅 I really admire your content sm!)
Yep, I completely agree. What normal people don't get is that there's not only ONE right way to express your love or feelings...it's the change in your attitude that shows your different feelings around your special someone and we can see it so clearly within Minsung...
@@bansheeeierkuchenkiller yes! totally!
Like recently when a friend of mine asked me whether I knew what certain types of behavior meant. I tried to explain to her that you can't really say that from just WHAT without the WHEN.
Everyone is different. And like you said, you can really see it with Minsung.
Similar to people acting cold/silent towards someone they really like but loud and chatty to their friends/other people.. I found it so adorable that he looks a bit hypnotised when lee know was “falling asleep” on the mv
@@alexandra31882 oh yeah you're right! I didn't even think of that but it makes total sense too!
Minsung are the perfect example of real world soulmates. How amazing is it that the moment their lives really clicked together was caught on camera that first time Minho held Han’s hand. I was in a terribly down mood before this ❤ I would say you don’t know how much good this does, but you clearly understand how much so many of us need this.
Well, they became very close even before the debut, i.e. before the show. In fact, Minho was the first one to hold his hand when Jisung was very nervous before the show. And then when JYP told LK to read the rap for the first time. Actually sometimes I think how close they were that Jisung didn't want him to leave so badly that he could help him in a second, I don't know who else would do that to Minho, I don't think anybody. There was a strong competition after all.
Remember then they went on a picnic when minho was kicked out and they showed a message from minho, everyone cried. then in one of the episodes of the 9 again showed that message from minho, all the guys including minho laughed, but jisung was very sad, it was very hard for him
Yes that handholding when they were young is lovely to have on camera. It seemed an instant connection that has grown to be something deep and genuine. They’re so lucky the stars were aligned for them to meet. I adore them both.
The Han rap 7:00 is very those letters from 200 yrs ago which talk about love, beauty, adoration and yearning between two men who historians deem to be besties who are known for their dinner parties and slept in the same bed. 💅
Is it a story
@@awuraadwoa3492 yah it is a greek mythilogical story of king achiles
@juicyprostates5175 it’s in reference to this song (history hates lovers): th-cam.com/video/lVE0CHiUucM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=evFh_g2dszf7kl80
wait which video was it that han rapped? was it an interview or smthg?
Jisung fell first we all been knew
I cant believe I just spent 1hr and 20minutes watching these 2 be absolutely whipped for each other. Whatever it is, romantic or platonic, I want it.
I'M DESPERATELY IN NEED OF WHAT THEY HAVE PLS
Try the 3 and a half hour one😭🤣
Three Minsung videos in one month is everything I needed right now. Thank you 🙏
never get tired of this content. thanks so so so much
wooow almost 1,5 hour long😭 thank you!!
Curious for me is that they claim to be bestest of friends, soulmates, the members always saying they have great chemistry, and yet we dont see HJ being clingy or flirty or friendly to LK like we see with the others when the cameras are on, and we dont see LK flirting with HJ the same obvious way he does to Hyujin or Changbin for example... Am I making sense? Because, I know they always choose eo and always compliment eo, but when its time to make the fanservice that we love seeing we dont always get it... Its makes me think that there is so much going on off cameras, that they dont show us because for those two it has a deeper meaning... I really hope they continue this whole mistery that revolves them, the secret hand holding, the longing stares and all the body language sh*t that we know is there, as long as we from the outside continue to suport them, I think thats enough, and both of them know it 😊
Around 23 minutes in where they are on Vlive and Seungmin is sitting by LeeKnow. There was definitely something going on we don't know. LeeKnow doesnt seem as confident and more shut in than he usually is, something was wrong and Han saw it right away. Han knew Leeknow was in distress and wanted to comfort him. Then when Han took Seungmin's seat LeeKnow reaches out and is holding Han's knee, almost like to anchor himself? Han moved closer and kissed his head, leaned on him, etc to comfort him and help him feel safe. After that Leeknow lightens up, he starts smiling and laughing in the vlive. No matter what you think or whatever their relationship is, they deeply care about each other. They are so caring and loving towards each other. It's very beautiful. I'm so happy they have each other to lean on. I hope their relationship/friendship will always be strong and a happy one ❤️🫶🏻
For real, I didn’t know how the situation could be up to that point if you don’t cmt abt it, and we don’t know if his other hand doing sth behind LK back too, which I’m sure he did sth there and tried to avoid camera
The whole video feels like a romantic movie but that neck kiss still makes me feel butterflies in my tummy that's the cutest moment I can't get it over 😍
I find it interesting that people think that Han doesn't love Lee Know, or show affection. In most of the clips that I've seen (especially from your videos), it appears to be mostly Han showing affection in my mind. I might be remembering wrong, but most of the clips that I remember are with Han instigating the affection, or showing the signs...
I feel like it's Lee Know that tends to try and hide it more so...
Thank you for this video!
May all of the members continue to grow together, love, support, and respect each other for many years to come! 🥰🥰🥰
Right. I also felt like Han liked Lee Know more tbh. It was only after I watched two kids room and the members said they feel like Lee know couldn’t live without Han that I started feeling like Lee know might like Han just as much tbh
maybe because han was always flirting with other members too..he was like that with everyone.. but if you see clearly there are different flirting when he with lee know and other member..with lee know he kind of shy and more flustered..
@@zsrstI just only had that thought when they said so during 2 kids room, that’s sound sad they said Han is good without Lino, I don’t ever think it’s true, but it’s easy to learn that LK loves him he doesn’t show the same energy or much efforts when it comes to others but with Han he does, but it’s hard to see Han showing his real love so ppl may think he doesn’t love LK more than the others, but I saw he came to the company at late night to make sure LK took rest and went home with him, best friends may not do that but love and special care does
Please analyze Han’s new song “Volcano” 🥺 I have so many thoughts right now but the first time I heared the song, I suddenly think of minsung 😭
55:38 Han trying to keep his eyes off of LK while I’m trying to keep my eyes off of Chan walking shirtless in the back
Same😂
I SWEAR THIS IS ME
THANK YOU FOR 1 HOUR OF MINSUNG CONTENT!!!! 💕💕💕💕
I can do anything for Lee Know version😖✊🏼
One of my favorite moments is at 12:26 because the side-eye Lix is giving Ji XD
But looks like he did not like it? I hope not.
At 36:52 the situation is literally ANY friend group that is pretty close having a sleepover. And the coughing and teasing is just another tell.
Close friends ALWAYS tease each other about their crushes and relationships. Whether it be official, unofficial or not even confessed, the teasing is there.
I can't even count on my fingers anymore how often stray kids tease Minsung.
And they tease them just equally as much as they are like 'oh god here we go again, we're so done with you guys, seriously'.
If you're not sure whether you can read the behavior of certain people when it comes to their relationship; read their friends, sometimes it'll tell you even more.
I love that your videos are so good that I sat through 1 hour and 20 something minutes of it 😭😭 I love minsung sm
Oh yesyesyesyes Jisung my lovely bias wrecker
Edit: WAIT I JUST SAW ITS AN HOUR LONG, BRO THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFFFEEEEEEEEEEEE, IM GONNA WATCH THIS ALL NIGHT. Also thank your for uploading this and take your many deserved breaks and time to enjoy whatever it is you wanna do ahaha
There are other videos on this channel that are 3hrs long
@@ericajones6334 your right, I’m aware but I’ve watched those - way too many times
@@HannieJS same
Not me watching 1hr&24mins of minsung video instead of watching 20mins lecture video bc I feel like it's too long, lmaoo
I need a Minho version :( but I understand your message and I never thought Minho is more than Jisung wtf ? They mutually love each other !
Babe an hour and half!?
Thank you
Imma devour this
Around 56:57 when Jisung laughs it's just ADORABLE.
Like idk if it's just me, but I feel like he laughs kinda differently when it comes to Minho.
Like when Minho (or Jisung himself) says/does something funny or even if it's just him laughing when he's around him.
I don't know if this is a psychological fact, but I can definitely tell you:
If I'm around people I like (a lot), I tend to laugh more and differently. Not just because I like being around them or because they make me happy. It's because I want them to feel kinda... appreciated? I just want them to know that I feel comfortable around them, that I think they are funny/cool/sweet etc.
And I'm pretty sure I'm not just talking for myself.
They have a beautiful bond, some people must say whatever they want, but nobody, no one anywhere must be with a person that makes you feel uncomfortable. Han and Lee Know faces tell that they feel comfortable with each other.❤❤🐰🐰🐿🐿❤❤❤❤😍😍🤞🏻🤞🏻✌🏻✌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
From the very beggining of getting into the Minsung world, I was very confused why most people think that Lee Know loves Han more (or that he is more obivoius with his feelings).
For me Minho is a better at hidding feelings, expect for the many moments when he is gazing at Han with the stars in his eyes.♥ And well, he also sometimes speaks before he thinks. 😆
Han, on the other hand, is so bad at pretending/acting (he says that himself many times) that I always saw him as an open book. Have you seen him getting shy just by looking at Lee Know? How many times he said iloveyou to him with the cutest face? How many times he acted like he's being paid by JYP to be Minho's biggest cheerleader? ☺
Omgoodness, thank you for this video SO MUCH! I absolutely adore these two. I'm a new stay, but I was drawn to Minsung straight away. I'm also a people watcher and have a lifelong fascination with "reading between the lines" or seeing what's happening with people without them directly saying it. Body language is a proven science and if you understand it, there is so much to learn from observing people and how they behave along with what they say. These two boys absolutely love each other no matter on what level that is.
I give people a pass most of the time when they say things like Han not really caring about Minho because I understand that many people are very literal and simply don't have the ability to comprehend what their eyes see over what they hear. I do get more annoyed though by the one's who insist that they're just friends and attack those of us that see more and voice it. I feel that they speak from either homophobia or a really weird sense that they think they might actually have a chance with their idol that they fantasize about. I also feel that it is very damaging because it's that kind of behaviour that makes it hard for queer people to be open and comfortable with who they really are. It forces them to hide, and allows the perpetuation of shame for loving someone of the same sex. If they love their idols as they claim, they should simply be happy that their idols might be happy in their chosen partner.
Any way, I will probably watch this video a few times. It just makes be so happy to see their relationship bloom and flourish. They have sacrificed their youth and given up so much of themselves to please their fans. I just want them to be happy.
An hour of minsung 5 hours before I have to be at work? Absolutely sign me up ❤️
this is the best video i’ve ever seen literally, I LOVE that you can really see how much they care about each other. There is also a little cute minsung scene in the beginning of the new freeze dance practice. Lee know makes heart hands to Han and he gets really flustered, you should check it out!
Keep up the good work❤
I am not forcing a relashioship on them,I just wated to say that whatever they have rather it's platonic or not ,the admiration they have for each other and joy they have when being togheter, really captivates me every time😭
YESSSSSSSSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR ANOTHER MINSUNG VID ❤❤❤❤❤
Not me being totally invested in MinSung love story even when my own love life is in gutter😂😂
😂😂😂
I can't believe I watched the full video without skipping and in one sitting. What a productive day 🙃
Istg same lol😭😭🚶🏻♀️🚶🏻♀️🚶🏻♀️🥲🤣
Me too lmfao😭 (I even paused the video and went back from time to time to make sure I read everything correctly since I can't read English as fast as my morher tongue)
I'm not a pro when it comes to body language, but starting at 09:54 Jisungs eyes widen a bit whenever he glances at Minho, which is a big tell (from what I know).
If we don't like something we tend to squint our eyes, our pupils get smaller, we cover our eyes or even turn away from whatever triggered that reaction. Our brain just tells us 'we don't wanna see that'.
In contrast, we widen our eyes or our pupils dilate when seeing something we like. Or we turn to the thing we like (if the thing we like is the topic, we'll be likely to turn to the one who's talking about it) - our brain tells us 'look! we like that, so we want to see it!'.
You can clearly see Jisung having his eyes a normal size when looking at the camera. Then, whenever he catches a glimpse of Minho, his eyes widen. Sometimes just slightly, but sometimes A LOT.
When he looks at Changbin, this doesn't happen.
Also, Changbin's eyes don't widen when looking at Minho either.
(When Jisung looks at Changbin/Changbin looks at Minho, their eyes could widen barely but a certain amount is normal for friends if I'm not mistaken.)
Like I said, you don't gotta trust what I say, I'm not a professional, but at least look at it yourself - you'll see what I mean.
I don't think you can see it very well here but I think in the original clip from 54:22 Felix saw that Jisung tried to get Minho's attention (after Minho ignored their 'Step Out').
When he saw, he kinda snickered then tapped Jeongin and pointed it out to him. Then Lix and I.N both grinned at each other in a way that looked like that 'you know what I'm talking about' face.
Just a moment that I remembered :)
do you have a link for it? I wanna see this 😂
@@frecklyfelix143 here you go ^^: th-cam.com/video/nCkfmCjd3es/w-d-xo.html
(It's pretty much at the beginning of the video)
@@blue6875 thank you so much!
@@frecklyfelix143 no problem ^^
Damnnnn, in this video there are so many times Han called LK “Jagi/Baby” and he wasn’t aware of the camera/ live stream so he just called him so and realized he was tooooo late to hold that back 😂
Han is so mesmerized when Minho talks! 😊 it’s sooo cute!
PLEASE it’s so obvious that hanni views minho as something more than a friend
i’m so sure that it’s love
jisung is constantly beating the “can live without leeknow” allegations, he’s just doing it subtly
I can't believe I watched the video completely, time flew by so quickly.
Thank you for your work! I love Minsung❤
I Think the affection they felt when they met Grows with them and before they were more spontaneous and Today they "control their Reactions" in front of the cameras More
Literally came here in the speed of lightening 💀💀
I love their interactions they are so wholesome but I still don't want to force any relationship on them if they are actually in a relationship I am going to support them but if they are just comfortable around each other them we should not make them awkward by forcing them in a relationship or something like that.....still this pair is my favorite 😍
My eyes going to burn.... My heart going to blast... My godness,,, I can't handled this love... 🥺 I wanna cryyyy 😭😭😭... I really love Minsung and Hyunlix... But this is, I have no words left... Thank you for making this... ❤🥺
こんなに沢山編集して頂いて、本当にありがとうございます。
幸せ！！！の言葉しかありません。
I was literally checking your page this morning to see if you had uploaded and was sad to see you didn’t… Glad this showed up on my feed❤
Do you ever just sit there and get hit in the face with the fact that even when they’re all out in public together that Han will still go to Lee Know first because Lee Know is his safe space. 🙃
I've just realized how much i need this video
That neck kiss said everything it needed to if were being honest😅
Minho is in love ... But.... Jisung is crazy in LOVE 💕💕
At 59:40 I think it’s weird no one addresses what Han is actually saying by asking if Minho wants to make a lovely breakfast with him. That’s more sus than literally anything else in this video and I love this interaction so much because it’s so telling. Also, I can’t believe I’m sitting through more than an hour watching moments I already know a lot about but that’s how good you are 🙏🏻
Out here doin the Lord's work. Thank you... also forgot about those who diss your content. As a relatively new stay... i live for these
i can't believe i watch it till the end, I LOVE UR VIDEOS SO MUCHHHH
55:12- I'm sorry, I got soooooo distracted by Chan and I had to timestamp for.... reasons.
But I think it's easy for people to think Han like LK more because he's super outward with his expressions- like he's introverted, but his expressions are his tell-all- it's like it's harder for him to not show how he's feeling sometimes I think, especially around LK. LK is a little more subtle, unless he's super embarrassed I think. When I first got into kpop I had no idea what actual relationships were like because I'd never been in one. Now that I'm older and I've had my fair share of interactions and relationships, I find myself nodding and smiling at some things they do in a very fond way because it makes me reminiscent of when I had crushes or SOs. Regardless of anything, they're so cute and obviously care about each other and have a very significant bond.
Also- these videos have become all time favorites of mine- because WOW the DETAIL and the way everything is broken down second by second. Its so good!🙌🙌
I litteraly had such a bad day your content brightens up my day🩷
Same here 🥰
Whether they are friends or lovers..bless them and go on with your life instead of trying to hate. No one has the right to interfere in their personal lives. We should focus on the music and shows they do. Try not to create the life of tje celebrity you like ..a living hell by stalking or obessing over them.
Your videos are the best, I was so happy when I saw this today, these two love one another so much, it's a beautiful thing to share ❤
AN HOUR- oh my I love u
THIS IS SO NECESSARY!!!! OMG THANK!YOU!!
The way Jisung pulled Minho's shirt in 13:49 💀💀💀
30:31 my heart is racing hearing the way he describes the first time he saw Lee Know ❤
Bro literally one minute in and I love😊
Finally someone else that can also read a person’s body language. My job consists of reading body language all day, everyday!
i may have to watch this another time bc THIS IS A WHOLE HOUR LONGGGG. i may forget tho but i love watching stays make long videos, doesn’t matter if it’s a topic i don’t wanna hear, i still love them only bc it feels like… ☆A MYSTERY UNSOLVED☆ idk they’re just fun
Did you get to watch it?😭 (if you can you really should🤸♀️)
@@biancawanabanawannabe i’ll prob watch it like this weekend, since it’s a long weekend. and i was right, i did forget abt it, but i’m totally gonna watch its someday!
@haresme_☆ That sounds nice ^^ (but also don't feel obligated to watch it)💖
@@biancawanabanawannabe ^^
Si Hannie ❤es joven,muy joven pero bien maduro en lo que quiere y ama por ello es un artista en el canto,danza y toca varios instrumentos musicales...pero lo mas compositor🎶🎼o sea es bien culto,preparado para ser idol..y uno bueno...por ello debe pasar varias solo..cuidate mi cielo,esa situacion entre seungmin y minho ya sabian que nacia algo entre ellos...pero TÚ no fallaste...dejalos dolod y vivan su vida...y tú mi cielo lindo camina adelante sin incomodar a nadie...cuidate mucho mi vida❤
1:19:36 Me not finding it funny till I hear Seungmin's laugh 😂
The fact that Changbin and Seungmin are always in minsung scene is so funny JAJAAJAJAJAJ
i love ur channel so so much and your analysis are to the point and makes me feel so positive about them after getting dissed by others. thank u for making them
6:06 Minho is dying inside.
I mean...look at him.
17:18 Meanwhile Chan giving himself hearts in Vlive 🤌
K-pop idols having physical touch with each others is normal, but Minsung is different.
Idk, they are so real...
Ugh I just want someone to look at me the way they look at each other 😭
I am telling you, IF MINSUNG are NOT in love............. Love doesn't exist~
"jisung does NOT like lee know...he LOVES leeknow to the heart" i luv minsung...
oh my MINSUNG HEART!!!!!!
Me thinking this was gonna be an hour long video explaining why Jisung doesn't like Lee Know: 😑😠
Me realizing its an hour long video shipping MinSung: 🥰☺
If i was editing this i would have forgotten midway what i was trying to prove and just blushed and flustered over minsung
An hour? This is an effing movie! Thank you😢❤
hello, idk if u will see this and i mean this with absolutely 0 hate or bad intentions, but in the videos at 3:16 and 3:46 han was uncomfortable for unrelated and serious reasons. the first video, where he's looking up at lk, was taken by a han sasaeng in an airport. you can see how lk tries to move in front of the camera trying to cover han since the ssg was invading their space. in the second video, i think it's from a variety show (?) but han was feeling uncomfortable throughout the entire video, most probably bc of his anxiety. labeling his anxious body language as "jealousy" doesn't sit right with me. i would really appreciate if you don't use those videos anymore, because when you know the context, it seems as if you are making light of the serious situations and of what han was feeling (not saying you were doing this on purpose, i found out ab the first video's origin like last month or so and up until then i thought of it as a cute moment between them). again, i don't even know if you read all your comments or if you will even find this one, but if you respect han i think thw correct thing is to not use those two videos anymore (and sorry if i come out as rude, i really wrote this to inform you, not to acuse or offend you!!)
If they break up i will cry for the rest if my life!😭😭😭
Us
I was sad when Chanbin and Seungmin said that Han can live fine without Lee Know but Lee Know cant without Han.
I think Han is extroverted so he takes energy from every member. But Lee Know is quiet and doesnt need that much interactions.
Han is INTROVERTED.
Omggg thanks for this video!!!!
I can’t speak for them but I think I’m similar to Han in a way, as in I’m also an introvert who desperately needs to recharge (after having any social interaction) but has no problem at all ,when with people, to be loud and expressive. I think it’s sometimes hard for people to understand my signs of affection. Im super clingy to all my friends when we are together, like Han. I used to get people asking if I was dating all of my friends because when I was around them I am the most affectionate. However when I’m alone I never really contact anyone , I’m the least sociable because I need to recharge. The reason why I think their ship might be real is because it reminds me a lot of my own relationship with my boyfriend/best friend. When we are with other friends I might be slightly more clingy to him then others but not significantly so, the real difference comes in the downtime. I found myself being ok recharging when he was nearby which never happened, and I didn’t mind texting and calling him. It wasn’t a choice I made consciously, it was as if one day my mind just decided he was a safe space for me. Anyway I just wanted to share because I drew a parallel to how I think people mistake that Han doesn’t love him as much, because in my eyes I think he might even love him more. I don’t think people always appreciate how difficult it is for an introvert to allow someone into their down time like that even if it is just to sit there. It shows more love than any sweet words or ski ship. Anyway yeah sorry for the rant.
Don't tell me you are not a writer because the way you explained introversion beats any thing I ( an intrivert) have read. I wish I could print your reply and keep flyers to paste on people's face for when they ask me why am I like this( not socializing for months and more) 😂😂😂