This is how you do a mic comparison! So many dudes don't add the cymbals and rest of the kit into the exercise, and this just illustrates how important it actually is to explore all aspects of how the mic will actually be used. Most helpful.
@@ramencurry6672 it’s true. It doesn’t necessarily turn a floor Tom or Gong drum into that Metallica-style sound, though. The hyped top end is not for all tastes however. It has its applications
I really appreciate the way you did the test at the end with the china cymbal on all mics - great to hear the difference in rejection - I was particularly looking at the e906 on floor tom - thanks!
Jesus the audix d6 is clearly scooped more then most. High end is way up there. Why every metal guy I know loves it. I'm partial to to the senhiesers or d112
@@joeschlicht Well i think that because i watched many video's where it does not sound good, and i also have two of them, better for guitar cabs ,vocal's etc .
The D6 always sounds like an over processed sample to me...whether it’s kick or floor tom, it just doesn’t sound like a real drum. A lot of people are into that sound but it’s not for me. The 604 was a nice mix of depth while picking up the skin and shell tones.
I went with e604’s based on this. IMO, perfect combination of punch and rumble. The D6 was too kick-like, I mean it IS a kick-drum mic and as a matter of fact I use it on my studio kick with a sub, but I want my toms to sound like toms. I’m impressed with the e604’s.
The complete lack of mids in the D6 is so obvious here. I love it on the kick simply because it's essentially a plug and play mic, but man it really is limited in other uses.
It's a Kick mic boss. Also lovely on Guitar Amps-in the back. Its pre EQd for KICK DRUMS. It's whole existence is to be a kick mic. Nothing more... On the Floor tom will work better than any of those on the video. That cut that it has is exactly what we take out when EQing a tom or a kick drum. Removing the unwanted Low Mid and let thru' the fundamental tone and the attack. Cheers!
A little late to the party here, From this batch, I liked the 604's best. But I've switched to Electro-Voice ND44's & ND46 for my 16" & 18". And then there is always the trusty SM57. Just works on everything. Sweetwater & NDV mic'd the whole drum set with 57's including as over-heads. Worked !
My kit has 13, 16 & 18 toms and all have a D6, I don’t EQ them, I only compress a little. Got the idea from seeing Ilan Rubin using it live with Paramore. Works like a charm. I recommend it to every rock drummer. (I rather have a Shure b52 as kick in, D6 is purely a Tom mic for me) 😂
You basically described the bass drum. Tom’s are supposed to have ring to it otherwise they would all sound like kicks. Terrible mic for Tom’s but hey maybe you wanna sound like you playing a bunch of kicks and cymbals
The Audix D6 sounded weird and drum-sticky on its own. With the cymbal, the non-Audix mics sounded like they had an overkill of energy around 1k, the D6 sounded ok. Maybe the Shure sounded better of the non-D6 mics. I like the idea of testing mics design for kick on the floor tom.
I like listening to stuff like this on my phone where only major differences are quickly apparently. They basically all sound the same except the d6. Theres subtle differences with each but the d6 is in left field for sure.
Probably because these demonstrators use the microphones they have on hand. I'm not going to go buy a $179 microphone just so I can make you a 2 minute video.
It’s obvious there’s is a clear separation between good and bad. The best of them is just a matter of preference. Mic position is essential and can make a good mic sound bad and vice versa!!
KEEP in mind folks that the D6 is a pre EQd KICK mic. The other mics will have to be EQd to where the D6 is to make them stand out in a mix or live situation. The beta 52a and the D6 are the best of them for Kick Drum. The Sen e604 sounds best for RACK TOMS than the others but I would use a D2 or D4 on toms. The D112 is a horror to EQ in live or in the Studio. All that Low Mid mud sounds like diarrhea. AND you will end up cutting the heck out of it and still will not come close to the D6 or Beta 52a. The D6 is a plug and go mic. No need to fuzz on the console.
Spot on. Everyone on here favouring the mic’s that are reflecting what the drums “really sound like” is ignoring the fact that the D6 (and e604) are giving you what you are going to try to make the drums sound like with EQing. Let’s admit it, unprocessed drums sound like crap. No one wants “what drums really sound like” to be what you hear on a recording, unless you’re deliberately doing a gritty lo fi album.
Sounds like... SHURE SM57: flat response AKG D40: a 12 tom Sennheiser e604: too boomy Sennheiser e904: cardboard Sennheiser e906: like a floor tom AUDIX D6: flat out disgusting AKG D112: like a real floor tom SHURE Beta 52: a nice basketball
Depending on the song mix, most of the mics will probably sound the same and listeners probably won’t hear the difference unless if they focus their ear on it
Also ill add the full beat through the d112 sounds the best in terms of if that was the whole mix. Like the snare sounds best through the d112 lol maybe just pick all your mics according to how the make everything you're not close micing sound. All the mics make the floor tom sound OK. But the d112 makes the whole kit sound good in relation to the floor tom. That would be my choice. Nothing worse than mixing a drum to sound good and it makes the rest of the kit sound bad counteracting a different good sounding close mic
I have to say, every single microphone sounds like a tom, for me the most important aspect of a "tom mic" is the off-axis rejection and coloration, which almost never appears on mic test videos...
The D6 is designed as a kick drum mic where it excels. It has a big scoop in the mids....floor tom not the best use for it. The D4 is really the mic you want for floor toms.
This is how you do a mic comparison! So many dudes don't add the cymbals and rest of the kit into the exercise, and this just illustrates how important it actually is to explore all aspects of how the mic will actually be used. Most helpful.
The D6 has the most mentions in the comment section. People hate it and others like it. Interesting
The D6 kind of reminds me of the kick drum in a Metallica song. If that’s the sound you’re looking for than it’s good
@@ramencurry6672 it’s true. It doesn’t necessarily turn a floor Tom or Gong drum into that Metallica-style sound, though. The hyped top end is not for all tastes however. It has its applications
I really appreciate the way you did the test at the end with the china cymbal on all mics - great to hear the difference in rejection - I was particularly looking at the e906 on floor tom - thanks!
Jesus the audix d6 is clearly scooped more then most. High end is way up there. Why every metal guy I know loves it. I'm partial to to the senhiesers or d112
I agree the D6 caught my attention also.
What would we do without the 57? seems to never let you down.
Wow!
The Sennheiser e604 sounds the best to me, then the Beta 52A.
agree.. out of the lot the e604 to me sounded the best.
Agreed. Shame the staple 421 wasn't there to compare.
@@joeschlicht I find the 421 inst that great on floor toms
@@christopherdunn317 Interesting, why do you think that? I have since purchased 2 421s for toms (rack and floor), and that's all I know at the moment.
@@joeschlicht Well i think that because i watched many video's where it does not sound good, and i also have two of them, better for guitar cabs ,vocal's etc .
The D6 always sounds like an over processed sample to me...whether it’s kick or floor tom, it just doesn’t sound like a real drum. A lot of people are into that sound but it’s not for me. The 604 was a nice mix of depth while picking up the skin and shell tones.
I went with e604’s based on this. IMO, perfect combination of punch and rumble. The D6 was too kick-like, I mean it IS a kick-drum mic and as a matter of fact I use it on my studio kick with a sub, but I want my toms to sound like toms. I’m impressed with the e604’s.
The complete lack of mids in the D6 is so obvious here. I love it on the kick simply because it's essentially a plug and play mic, but man it really is limited in other uses.
It's a Kick mic boss. Also lovely on Guitar Amps-in the back. Its pre EQd for KICK DRUMS. It's whole existence is to be a kick mic. Nothing more...
On the Floor tom will work better than any of those on the video. That cut that it has is exactly what we take out when EQing a tom or a kick drum.
Removing the unwanted Low Mid and let thru' the fundamental tone and the attack.
Cheers!
@@DuroSamples Yes I'm aware of this and agree with your point. It sounds phenomenal on kick drums but awful on toms for that very reason.
@@zDerezzedidk if you haven’t mixed it but I strongly disagree, unprocessed it blew these all out of the water. With processing…: wooo it’s a beast
man that beat you do at the end is phenomenal. got such a sepulture vibe.
this video is invaluable. love that you used kick drum mics as well.
Best comparison video ever. Thanx!
A little late to the party here, From this batch, I liked the 604's best. But I've switched to Electro-Voice ND44's & ND46 for my 16" & 18". And then there is always the trusty SM57. Just works on everything. Sweetwater & NDV mic'd the whole drum set with 57's including as over-heads. Worked !
My kit has 13, 16 & 18 toms and all have a D6, I don’t EQ them, I only compress a little. Got the idea from seeing Ilan Rubin using it live with Paramore. Works like a charm. I recommend it to every rock drummer. (I rather have a Shure b52 as kick in, D6 is purely a Tom mic for me) 😂
Funny cause I thought listening to it made the Tom sound too much like a kick and so im gonna use the d6 for the kick now haha
@@Area-5l yeah, I sold them all a few months ago and moved back to Sennheiser 421’s on toms and kick in
thanks so much for these videos! theyre fantastic!!
I like the e604 on a 16" floor tom, but I run a Sennheiser 602-II on my 18" floor with low tuning and it sounds great!
I really like how the Audio D6 sounded on the Tom... to me that was the beat sound. Lots of low end and it didn’t have any ring to it.
No midrange though, good luck hearing it in a mix.
Omg agreed! It’s such a killer mix for basses/floor toms. Deep drums with bass, I’m getting one for sure:)
You basically described the bass drum. Tom’s are supposed to have ring to it otherwise they would all sound like kicks. Terrible mic for Tom’s but hey maybe you wanna sound like you playing a bunch of kicks and cymbals
Honestly, I have most of these mics and the e906 sounded really even and transparent. Really a great multi use mic.
The Audix D6 sounded weird and drum-sticky on its own. With the cymbal, the non-Audix mics sounded like they had an overkill of energy around 1k, the D6 sounded ok. Maybe the Shure sounded better of the non-D6 mics. I like the idea of testing mics design for kick on the floor tom.
Wow.. thanks. I like clarity sound from sm57 and e606.. only the e606 can feel boost on low end a little bit..
Man, this is GREAT!!! Thank you!! **Super** informative. Keep up the good work!!!
Sennheiser e604 is the best all around drum mic I known. I like the audix bottom end though... i would prefer the D4 than the D6
Found this incredibly helpful! Thank you!!!
Super comparison. Thank you
I like listening to stuff like this on my phone where only major differences are quickly apparently. They basically all sound the same except the d6. Theres subtle differences with each but the d6 is in left field for sure.
Hey. Thanks for comparison but, I wonder that why you didn't use Audix D4 instead of D6? Thank you.
Probably because these demonstrators use the microphones they have on hand. I'm not going to go buy a $179 microphone just so I can make you a 2 minute video.
Solid Content! This is how you do a review! 🧀
That D6 sure does have an interesting pattern...
Surprised how much I liked the e609.
D6 was definitely my least favorite. The 906 also sounded surprisingly bad.
D6 makes it sound a like kick. Which is funny cause the standard for recording kick is the beta 52a. Might use the d6 for kicks now.
Thank you, sir. This helped quite a lot.
It’s obvious there’s is a clear separation between good and bad. The best of them is just a matter of preference. Mic position is essential and can make a good mic sound bad and vice versa!!
the problem is he aint mix none.... thats why they all sound dead😂
For me, it would be the Audix then the Shure
I own E604, E609 and B52, but I love the BOOM of the D6 best. I guess I need to own a D6 too 😐
KEEP in mind folks that the D6 is a pre EQd KICK mic. The other mics will have to be EQd to where the D6 is to make them stand out in a mix or live situation.
The beta 52a and the D6 are the best of them for Kick Drum. The Sen e604 sounds best for RACK TOMS than the others but I would use a D2 or D4 on toms.
The D112 is a horror to EQ in live or in the Studio. All that Low Mid mud sounds like diarrhea. AND you will end up cutting the heck out of it and still will not come close to the D6 or Beta 52a.
The D6 is a plug and go mic. No need to fuzz on the console.
Spot on. Everyone on here favouring the mic’s that are reflecting what the drums “really sound like” is ignoring the fact that the D6 (and e604) are giving you what you are going to try to make the drums sound like with EQing. Let’s admit it, unprocessed drums sound like crap. No one wants “what drums really sound like” to be what you hear on a recording, unless you’re deliberately doing a gritty lo fi album.
@@darwinsaye Which is why RTOM made millions $$$ back in the day with a simple product called Moongels !
Sounds like...
SHURE SM57: flat response
AKG D40: a 12 tom
Sennheiser e604: too boomy
Sennheiser e904: cardboard
Sennheiser e906: like a floor tom
AUDIX D6: flat out disgusting
AKG D112: like a real floor tom
SHURE Beta 52: a nice basketball
Spot on
Depending on the song mix, most of the mics will probably sound the same and listeners probably won’t hear the difference unless if they focus their ear on it
Excellent comparison.
omg the D6 BLOWS THEM ALL AWAY! LOVE IT!
still e604 to my ears
D6 ❤️
Nice shootout, it will even be nicer if you can include the MD412. Thanks
The Audix is clearly different, the others almost sound the same. To me the Audix sounded more dead as in little sustain.
E604 -- 0:51 ----- 1:26 --------
E906 --------- 0:59 ------ 1:34
D6 -- 1:03 --------- 1:38 --------
D112 ------- 1:07 -------- 1:42
BETA 52A -------- 1:11 ------- 1:46
Thank you, very useful
ShureSM57, and Sennheiser e604 are my favorites here.
E906 true sound of the instrument
Dude great video
Also ill add the full beat through the d112 sounds the best in terms of if that was the whole mix. Like the snare sounds best through the d112 lol maybe just pick all your mics according to how the make everything you're not close micing sound. All the mics make the floor tom sound OK. But the d112 makes the whole kit sound good in relation to the floor tom. That would be my choice. Nothing worse than mixing a drum to sound good and it makes the rest of the kit sound bad counteracting a different good sounding close mic
The D6 is a kick drum mic, the Tom mics are D2 and D4
Shure and AKG delivers a more natural sound. The rest sound too artificial, if you have a good sounding drumset you will appreciate it.
I have to say, every single microphone sounds like a tom, for me the most important aspect of a "tom mic" is the off-axis rejection and coloration, which almost never appears on mic test videos...
Sennheiser e604 is my favorite, very well balanced. I was surprised how bad the Audix was.
the audix isnt bad it has built in eq and sounds good to me
excelente aporte
D6 !
Audix D6 - just what I was looking for.
Nice shootout! The D6 sounds really... Bad? It's my least favorite anyway. The e604 and e906 are both really nice, as well as the D112 and Beta 52.
its my favorite
D6 sounds strangely bad here.. I am no fan of that mic but here it sound very much like cr**
@@inset09
Me too!
The D6 is designed as a kick drum mic where it excels. It has a big scoop in the mids....floor tom not the best use for it. The D4 is really the mic you want for floor toms.
Its good if you like annoying sounds
Beta 52 sounds like is boosted on low end
The D6 sounds best
E604 - D6 seems too rolled off or "muddy"
0:43 0:51 1:11
AUDIX D6 its Great..
sennheiser e604 and audix d6
I choose the e604 and D6...
God that D6 sounded the worst by far.
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They are all about equal except the D6 is total crap. Reading the comments, some people like them? Seems like sarcasm.
604 gets my vote.
D6 by a country mile.
nice!
wow!
D6
THE BEST IS THE SENNHEISER E604..
604!!!
e604 best for me)
e604
e604 !!!
+1Goog
HAHAHHA D6 is the KING. that D112 sounds like a fart. The worst Mic ever.
Would help if you knew how to hit a drum properly, but this is an incredibly helpful video never the less so thank you.
D6 for me
e604