Great remake on yesterdays video bro! I think while intentions are there with 50 f1 that lens is just not LM which most professional fuji uses prefer for snappy auto focus (not to mention that lens being quite unattainable or perhaps not necessary for alot of fuji system user) and moreover, no need to shoot crazy stuff at f1 haha. I think watching the mid part looks like once it loses you it takes a while to come back, but when you were squatting out of screen and coming back quickly it was programmed nicely to remain at that focal point which looked incredible. No subject should be leaving an empty scene for too long. Great vid mate
It focuses so much faster than the 56mm F1.2 that it never even occured to me it isn't a linear motor lens! This is a very fair point to bring up, I'm going to pin it.
@@omarknowsphotos I own and use the 50mm f1, and have owned both versions of the 56mm and yeah, the 50mm focuses much faster and more accurately than the 56mm’s do. I really disliked the 56. The 50 is awesome and accurate even at f1. I think the 50 is capable of fast autofocus, whereas I’m not confident the 56mm is, so it was interesting to see if the new firmware might actually improve my 50mm. Thanks for the footage man
Looks like you might be slightly off in measuring minimum focus distance. That distance is actually calculated from the image sensor and not the end of the lens. On every camera, there's a circle with a line through it on either the left or right side of the diopter. That symbol indicates where the sensor is, which is where any distance measurements should be taken. Excellent test videos (this one and the previous). Thank you for taking the time and effort to do this.
Yeah, someone else mentioned that and I didn't know that was still a thing on digital cameras after trying to learn about shooting film during the lockdown days. For the sake of what I was testing, where people said I was too close in the previous video, I think that's an even better test now since I wasn't teetering on the edge. That being said, I'm definitely going to mention this fun fact in the next video! Thanks for watching!
I picked it on purpose for that reason. It's good enough for what the overwhelming majority of people will ever need it for and a steal for anyone looking for open gate. R6II being priced so close to this means they still need to do better though.
One interesting thing to note is that I didn't see too much breathing in the bokeh when the camera was locked onto your face. I like this. My X-H2S make it look like it was pulsing, especially with anything that was set below f2.0. So far, outside of some misses, this looks promising. Thank you for posting this.
I think admitting bias is not a problem. We all have them and admitting there is a bias with the testing and the comment about companies feeding off of parasocial relationships is important to be aware of! Just like my bias of loving your microphone, especially with today's important news! Newly subscribed for more fuji videos!
Also, I’ll feel like they REALLY made the eye/face tracking the priority here almost to a fault. From the tests I’ve seen so far, it very much focuses on faces even when face detect isn’t on, like when you’re trying to get it to focus on items in your hand. This is great for me as a portrait photographer who doesn’t do video, but I could see that being pretty annoying for video shooters.
AHHH, you put it SO well! I'm ok with it though, I'll adjust if I have to but I just couldn't put words to it. I might do this v-mount video sooner than later now just to see if it's really that pronounced an issue.
That you state the settings is important. Like it or not, and maybe unlike other brands, it won't work at its best straight out of the box with the defaults. Make your own defaults for the situation and store in a custom setting, or even camera profile in the xapp - and adjust from there. It's not a Sony, and if that's what people spefically want rumour has it Sony cameras and lenses are freely available to buy. This performance seems similar to what I get now on my x-t5 today. Stills and burst mode is more important to me.
I have a few telephotos for it. We don't have much wildlife here and it's raining today, but I'll try to grab some birds or something with those lenses and make a quick AF update video within the next few days.
For video? This is a billion times better than the X-T3. I've shot on a pair of those professionally for over 4 years before investing in cinema cameras and if they were this good I never would've gotten this new gen. Really interested in your answer because I've had some thoughts too but thought it was because I'm older.
@@omarknowsphotos I thought I posted this link. There is a really good comparison somewhere in the middle of the video. The difference between pulsing and smoothly focusing, which can be seen in the bokeh. th-cam.com/video/5ehkcwvrzjM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CaXMFBfVPXldYXQz
Thanks for the test! Looks improved but just barely. Guess now its time ti wait for Gen 6 and hope they finally catch up in the AF performance with a new processor.
Also I feel ND filters affect AF on Fuji cameras. Also not correcting you but , if you do use a measuring tape to stay within minimum focus distance arent you futher away because the focus distance starts from the front of the sensor not the front of the lens?
@omarknowsphotos yeah the symbol on the top of the camera of the circle with the line is the sensor point isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong but that's always what I thought .
The problem I observe is with consistency. We should be able to anticipate how are tools will behave, but with Fujifilm, the behavior of auto-focus seems to wander. I appreciate your effort, but I think Fujifilm still has problems.
Was just about to say this. The inconsistency / inability to predict focus behavior is what’s going to always hold Fuji back. It’s why I switched to Sony.
Thank you...I think the CAF is still baaaad. 5 days ago I got the Sony ZV E1. Night and day. AF is magical. I love my Xh2s for picture but let's say for a wedding it's a camera you can't count on because the AF is not reliable at all. Let's face the truth. Fuji for video is ONLY a choice if don't use AF AT ALL. So sad.
Hello Omar, I am a professional photographer based in Lisbon /Portugal, and ami shoot with two H2s and with their respective grips. At the autofocus level the cameras were much better but I already had a problem, when I use flash (godox v1 and V1pro) the cameras sometimes freeze and I have to remove the grip. As soon as I do it, they go back to normal. Does it happen to you too? Hug and thank you
I have a V1 Pro and will test this today. Previously this was not an issue. Are you using these on-camera or with a wireless trigger and if you are using a trigger, can you tell me the brand and model?
@ thanks for the reply. I’m using on camera. When I use the trigger (godox XT2) I don’t have any problem. First I thought that was a problem with one grip, but I make all the changes possible, including the baterias (all fuji) and the problem continues. The two cameras sometimes freeze. Always with the flash. For exemple, when I shoot real state, with the grip and with the fuji 8-16 2,8 the cameras never freeze.
@ufukkiblat at f1.0 that is still impressive from what I saw. I think moving fast and having an aperture of F1.0 on a lens that already isn't that fast to focus is a lot more than anyone should ask of a lens and camera combo using AF .
Don't focus on him focus on the background during movement. It's much easier to see the hunting and pulsing. Still lightyears behind the competition still not as good as the original firmware. Still a failure. See ya fuji.
Lol, I don’t mind it. We’ve all made fun of Tony Northrup for shooting a video from a lake at 1.2 with the EOS R not keeping up. Won’t expect a 75mm 1.4 equivalent to keep up 1.5 meters away.
@@larrydiaz7156 That was the first generation EOS R. Now look at R5, only couple of years later. They focus as good as Sony. Meanwhile Fuji with a decade long history of X series....
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Great remake on yesterdays video bro!
I think while intentions are there with 50 f1 that lens is just not LM which most professional fuji uses prefer for snappy auto focus (not to mention that lens being quite unattainable or perhaps not necessary for alot of fuji system user) and moreover, no need to shoot crazy stuff at f1 haha.
I think watching the mid part looks like once it loses you it takes a while to come back, but when you were squatting out of screen and coming back quickly it was programmed nicely to remain at that focal point which looked incredible. No subject should be leaving an empty scene for too long. Great vid mate
It focuses so much faster than the 56mm F1.2 that it never even occured to me it isn't a linear motor lens! This is a very fair point to bring up, I'm going to pin it.
@@omarknowsphotos Faster than the 56 WR?
@@omarknowsphotos I own and use the 50mm f1, and have owned both versions of the 56mm and yeah, the 50mm focuses much faster and more accurately than the 56mm’s do. I really disliked the 56. The 50 is awesome and accurate even at f1.
I think the 50 is capable of fast autofocus, whereas I’m not confident the 56mm is, so it was interesting to see if the new firmware might actually improve my 50mm.
Thanks for the footage man
Looks like you might be slightly off in measuring minimum focus distance. That distance is actually calculated from the image sensor and not the end of the lens. On every camera, there's a circle with a line through it on either the left or right side of the diopter. That symbol indicates where the sensor is, which is where any distance measurements should be taken. Excellent test videos (this one and the previous). Thank you for taking the time and effort to do this.
Yeah, someone else mentioned that and I didn't know that was still a thing on digital cameras after trying to learn about shooting film during the lockdown days.
For the sake of what I was testing, where people said I was too close in the previous video, I think that's an even better test now since I wasn't teetering on the edge. That being said, I'm definitely going to mention this fun fact in the next video! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Omar! Will have confidence updating my xh2s now!
Hey Omar, thank you for taking the time to do this. Just subscribed. Keep up the good content!
Thank you! Feel free to let me know if there's ever a video on a topic you'd like to see.
Great video/demonstration. IMO it was pretty good and more than acceptable. 50 1.0 is a tough one too for af tracking.
I picked it on purpose for that reason. It's good enough for what the overwhelming majority of people will ever need it for and a steal for anyone looking for open gate. R6II being priced so close to this means they still need to do better though.
its improved but the times where you moved back and forth... The hunting and pulses are still a bit jarring...thanks for the test.
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it's a move in the right direction I hope it goes up from here and not take 3 steps backwards lol
Agree but how often do we move and forward 😮
One interesting thing to note is that I didn't see too much breathing in the bokeh when the camera was locked onto your face. I like this. My X-H2S make it look like it was pulsing, especially with anything that was set below f2.0. So far, outside of some misses, this looks promising. Thank you for posting this.
I think admitting bias is not a problem. We all have them and admitting there is a bias with the testing and the comment about companies feeding off of parasocial relationships is important to be aware of!
Just like my bias of loving your microphone, especially with today's important news! Newly subscribed for more fuji videos!
You are a gentleman and a scholar
That hoodie is cool!
So are you!
@@omarknowsphotos I sub'd, keep it real! ✊🏾
Also, I’ll feel like they REALLY made the eye/face tracking the priority here almost to a fault. From the tests I’ve seen so far, it very much focuses on faces even when face detect isn’t on, like when you’re trying to get it to focus on items in your hand.
This is great for me as a portrait photographer who doesn’t do video, but I could see that being pretty annoying for video shooters.
AHHH, you put it SO well! I'm ok with it though, I'll adjust if I have to but I just couldn't put words to it. I might do this v-mount video sooner than later now just to see if it's really that pronounced an issue.
The fact I noticed you also had an ND filter on the front of the lens is even more impressive for a lens that doesn’t have a linear AF motor.
MFD is measured from the sensor, not the front element of a lens, thus being shorter than you shown us
That you state the settings is important. Like it or not, and maybe unlike other brands, it won't work at its best straight out of the box with the defaults. Make your own defaults for the situation and store in a custom setting, or even camera profile in the xapp - and adjust from there. It's not a Sony, and if that's what people spefically want rumour has it Sony cameras and lenses are freely available to buy.
This performance seems similar to what I get now on my x-t5 today. Stills and burst mode is more important to me.
I put my tracking on 0 and my speed at 2 and switching from my hand in front of the lens to it not being in front of my lens was quick
Nice one mate, hope this firmware will come to X100vi soon. All the best!
ouch man, still long way to get the almost perfect AF.
Omar, well done .
If you have any lens for wildlife photography can you try autofocus for wildlife
I have a few telephotos for it. We don't have much wildlife here and it's raining today, but I'll try to grab some birds or something with those lenses and make a quick AF update video within the next few days.
@omarknowsphotos perfect omar
@omarknowsphotos thank you
Still pulsing. Why they can’t go back to XT3 smooth focusing is beyond me
For video? This is a billion times better than the X-T3. I've shot on a pair of those professionally for over 4 years before investing in cinema cameras and if they were this good I never would've gotten this new gen. Really interested in your answer because I've had some thoughts too but thought it was because I'm older.
@@omarknowsphotos I thought I posted this link. There is a really good comparison somewhere in the middle of the video. The difference between pulsing and smoothly focusing, which can be seen in the bokeh.
th-cam.com/video/5ehkcwvrzjM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CaXMFBfVPXldYXQz
Bro test the new firmware with an F1 lens 💀
Very impressive
f0 lens ☠️
May as well stress test it as much as possible
Thanks for the test! Looks improved but just barely.
Guess now its time ti wait for Gen 6 and hope they finally catch up in the AF performance with a new processor.
Also I feel ND filters affect AF on Fuji cameras. Also not correcting you but , if you do use a measuring tape to stay within minimum focus distance arent you futher away because the focus distance starts from the front of the sensor not the front of the lens?
I actually didn't know that so that makes the claims that I was too close in the other video even less of an issue.
@omarknowsphotos yeah the symbol on the top of the camera of the circle with the line is the sensor point isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong but that's always what I thought .
What ND filter are you using on the 50 F1? Is that a vnd?
Yeah, that's the oldest polar pro VND. Pretty sure they have new versions now along with ones that have a mist built in too
The problem I observe is with consistency. We should be able to anticipate how are tools will behave, but with Fujifilm, the behavior of auto-focus seems to wander. I appreciate your effort, but I think Fujifilm still has problems.
Was just about to say this. The inconsistency / inability to predict focus behavior is what’s going to always hold Fuji back. It’s why I switched to Sony.
Thank you...I think the CAF is still baaaad. 5 days ago I got the Sony ZV E1. Night and day. AF is magical. I love my Xh2s for picture but let's say for a wedding it's a camera you can't count on because the AF is not reliable at all. Let's face the truth. Fuji for video is ONLY a choice if don't use AF AT ALL. So sad.
I can’t wait for the turn of the XT5, I was literally considering the switch to Sony
Wait, what's wrong with the X-T5? I take like 95% of my photos on mine and love it!
@@omarknowsphotosit has false positives issues.
@@lionheart4424Fix your settings …
I get false positives in SAF sitting on a tripod. Did not happen before firmware 4.0.
Oh. (scoffs in Sony) This camera is adequate I suppose.
I can't wait for the day where they install an SD card slot into the side of my head so I never have to buy another camera again.
Man, seems to be slower than 1.03 Thanks for the tests :)
Hello Omar, I am a professional photographer based in Lisbon /Portugal, and ami shoot with two H2s and with their respective grips. At the autofocus level the cameras were much better but I already had a problem, when I use flash (godox v1 and V1pro) the cameras sometimes freeze and I have to remove the grip. As soon as I do it, they go back to normal. Does it happen to you too? Hug and thank you
I have a V1 Pro and will test this today. Previously this was not an issue. Are you using these on-camera or with a wireless trigger and if you are using a trigger, can you tell me the brand and model?
@ thanks for the reply. I’m using on camera. When I use the trigger (godox XT2) I don’t have any problem. First I thought that was a problem with one grip, but I make all the changes possible, including the baterias (all fuji) and the problem continues. The two cameras sometimes freeze. Always with the flash. For exemple, when I shoot real state, with the grip and with the fuji 8-16 2,8 the cameras never freeze.
Compared to Canon and Sony, this autofocus looks heavy. I can literally feel the camera having a hard time focusing.
How's flog 2c
Haven't really pushed it beyond minor adjustments. I thought flog2 was pretty good on its own.
damn bro , are you trying to strangler the camera with those cords all over the place
😂😂😂
@@omarknowsphotos The AF algorithm has been partially revised to improve focusing accuracy and subject tracking performance. "Partially"
F1.0 that's impressive regardless of the slight hunting periodically.
it's hunting A LOT
@ufukkiblat at f1.0 that is still impressive from what I saw. I think moving fast and having an aperture of F1.0 on a lens that already isn't that fast to focus is a lot more than anyone should ask of a lens and camera combo using AF .
Btw u timestamp still from previous video😂
Bro I'm so tired, I'll get rid of them for now 😂
@@omarknowsphotosthx for providing the test btw ,great job 😊😊
Don't focus on him focus on the background during movement. It's much easier to see the hunting and pulsing. Still lightyears behind the competition still not as good as the original firmware. Still a failure. See ya fuji.
Literally just here to say “first”.
second!
5:15 "its okay i dont think it looks bad at all" and at exact that time you get blurred out because you moved 20cm backwards is just peak comedy
Lol, I don’t mind it. We’ve all made fun of Tony Northrup for shooting a video from a lake at 1.2 with the EOS R not keeping up. Won’t expect a 75mm 1.4 equivalent to keep up 1.5 meters away.
It keeps happening 😂
Who shoots 1.4 f in broad daylight?
@@mattlife25 Those with fast UWA lenses.
@@larrydiaz7156 That was the first generation EOS R. Now look at R5, only couple of years later. They focus as good as Sony. Meanwhile Fuji with a decade long history of X series....
Photography..?
If it stops raining, I'll do a video just on testing the photography aspect today.
@omarknowsphotos awesome work 👏 👌
It is still bad, unfortunately. Thank you for your effort.
Man it does enough. It ain’t gonna be no sony but my guy had the lens all the way open.
@@michialharris1850 Still far away from Sony, Canon and Nikon is still doing much better job in autofocus than Fuji.
Af for wildlife is still bad 👎
Just finished shooting a video on the photo AF. Limited testing here but it did very well in extremely poor conditions.
@omarknowsphotos great well-done 👍
Cannot trust AF for professional work
I mean I've been shooting sports, products, and more professionally on the Fuji system since 2018 so I'd outright disagree with that.
What you doing? Autofocus test at F11 bro😂
Bud eye AF! Fuji never Good eye Af....
Actually I think it's a huge step forward there. It was fine for video prior and tracks much better now.