Great video :) Thanks! I have this car and have seen a significant drop in the last few weeks with extreme cold weather here in Bergen. But it is great to know what to expect in these conditions
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@Nikolas Adrien thanks for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out atm. I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
So 165km is only just over 100miles? Even in cold, that isn’t a particularly great range! I’d need much better if I’m to consider spending £35-40k to go electric.
I live in southern sweden, raining quite often so hard to say if that effect the range, but cold do that definitely, and it's not too often really cold in this part of sweden, but the last days have been below 0 degrees and down to minus 12... And that have really affect the range. Not too much but noticeable. I drive a Zoe. I drove 200km the other day and normally I can do that in a single charge, this trip the temperature where around minus 5 degrees, and I had to stop for a 10-15minutes charge.
On the 1st stop.45,000Kwh/265wh = 169km range. So you had about 28km of range left. On the 2nd stop I calculated you had set off with about 33,75Kwh, which gave you a max range of 130km. YOLO all the way Kris :D
If cold weather is worse than wet surface, I don’t know.. Depends just _how_ wet, and how cold it is. 🙂 Also depends on the shape of the car, speed and tire width/type. The combination is really bad, that’s for sure. My experience is that 0 degrees Celsius (32F) and very wet can be just as bad as -20 (-4F). Then it’s always dry. Salt stops to work around -7. Most likely also no wind, with some exceptions. If you add wind to the equation, you can get winter like consumption even in summer, if it’s also wet.
I'd be interested to know if air pressure also plays a part. Sometimes I do the same journey in the same conditions (dry and cold, no wind for example) but achieve different efficiency for each journey. Feels like there's something else at play.
Nice video. I think you should do your test with obd connected so you can also have battery temperature data in the video. I did find that it is more important for range then outside temp. And also you get soc percentage.
Now I'm convinced, you deserve to be a ninja driver, so low SoC, 5% and 0% by the car. You 're the new king. Bjorn is getting beaten by the new generation. Keep on doing great job. Disappointed about the range, 200km is a no brainer but less than 50kwh EV is really city driving. Because speed on highway in Belgium is 120 and my typical speed on odometer is 125 ( real speed 120km and save for speedtraps 😉). Bit some stretches are at 135km/u. That would not be possible. Did a 320km trip today ( 80% autobahn andrest 90/ 70 stretches) but passed 3 X ionity. But 1st= too short ( after 50km) , 2nd after 200km ( too far) and 3rd after 270 ish. ( same as first one but in other direction). Problem : Lidl ( sort of Circle K store) are out of work when shop is closed ( on Sundays and openinghours) , but otherwise for free when shop is open. And that one = 50kW charger was ideally located , after 170km.
Nice video, as always. It could be that rain just above freezing point cools down a car more than dry subzero air. Which would make the HVAC run harder. Let's see if there's a HVAC specialist in the comments.
When using studded tires consumption will go up even further. Maybe EV shouldn’t use studded tires in winter? I have Michelin with studs on mine Plug in GTE.
Nice video.I have been driving ev cars for over 30 years.It is wet road and headwind that take most power.Below 10 C degrees it start to incline power also.Over 10 degress its no big deal..But the most powerdrain you can find is uphill, they are terrible and the downhill does not compensate att all.
Studying much about "what EV to buy" I think the main important feature of EV is degradation of battery. Unfortunately i can't find any degradation statistics of the CATL(China) battery in PSA models :-) IDx with LG(S.Korea) are not the champion at all regarding degradation, Tesla 3 is better and winner is Niro with SK Innovation(S.Korea) battery... :-)
Just 100 kph is pretty slow. How about the range with heater on at 21c. and doing 120 kph.? Unlikely to get 150 km. range. Also that heavy charging cable cc ould cause an accident as no cover over the facility. To sum up EV's are pathetic. The price for charging is generally more than for an efficient petrol or diesel as charging costs are becoming excessive. Then factor in the waiting in the cold and wet for the unreliable chargers and excessive weight and purchase Cost of an EV . Complete and total load of crap. I rest my case.
If you press the button on the windshield wiper it should show battery percentage
Great video :) Thanks! I have this car and have seen a significant drop in the last few weeks with extreme cold weather here in Bergen. But it is great to know what to expect in these conditions
Sorry to be offtopic but does anybody know of a method to log back into an instagram account..?
I was dumb forgot the login password. I would appreciate any assistance you can give me!
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@Nikolas Adrien thanks for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out atm.
I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Nikolas Adrien It worked and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
Thanks so much you really help me out!
@Jayden Frank glad I could help xD
YOLO master back at it! :D
So 165km is only just over 100miles? Even in cold, that isn’t a particularly great range! I’d need much better if I’m to consider spending £35-40k to go electric.
Interesting test. Looking forward you to test the Citroën eC4 based on same PSA platform but slightly more efficient since more aerodynamic.
Good decision to have the same starting- and ending point. 👍 Bad thing is that now you have to redo the other cold weather tests.. 😜
Wished they would bring this to North America perfect small SUV for the city
You guys have the e-niro right? And the kona?
I live in southern sweden, raining quite often so hard to say if that effect the range, but cold do that definitely, and it's not too often really cold in this part of sweden, but the last days have been below 0 degrees and down to minus 12... And that have really affect the range. Not too much but noticeable. I drive a Zoe. I drove 200km the other day and normally I can do that in a single charge, this trip the temperature where around minus 5 degrees, and I had to stop for a 10-15minutes charge.
Hey Chris, your videos are in detail. Love from India
On the 1st stop.45,000Kwh/265wh = 169km range. So you had about 28km of range left.
On the 2nd stop I calculated you had set off with about 33,75Kwh, which gave you a max range of 130km.
YOLO all the way Kris :D
Thanks man , it works . Today drove the testing Car at the PG store in Korea . Now thinking buy or not
If cold weather is worse than wet surface, I don’t know.. Depends just _how_ wet, and how cold it is. 🙂 Also depends on the shape of the car, speed and tire width/type. The combination is really bad, that’s for sure.
My experience is that 0 degrees Celsius (32F) and very wet can be just as bad as -20 (-4F). Then it’s always dry. Salt stops to work around -7. Most likely also no wind, with some exceptions.
If you add wind to the equation, you can get winter like consumption even in summer, if it’s also wet.
I'd be interested to know if air pressure also plays a part. Sometimes I do the same journey in the same conditions (dry and cold, no wind for example) but achieve different efficiency for each journey. Feels like there's something else at play.
Nice video. I think you should do your test with obd connected so you can also have battery temperature data in the video. I did find that it is more important for range then outside temp. And also you get soc percentage.
Now I'm convinced, you deserve to be a ninja driver, so low SoC, 5% and 0% by the car. You 're the new king. Bjorn is getting beaten by the new generation.
Keep on doing great job.
Disappointed about the range, 200km is a no brainer but less than 50kwh EV is really city driving. Because speed on highway in Belgium is 120 and my typical speed on odometer is 125 ( real speed 120km and save for speedtraps 😉). Bit some stretches are at 135km/u. That would not be possible.
Did a 320km trip today ( 80% autobahn andrest 90/ 70 stretches) but passed 3 X ionity. But 1st= too short ( after 50km) , 2nd after 200km ( too far) and 3rd after 270 ish. ( same as first one but in other direction).
Problem : Lidl ( sort of Circle K store) are out of work when shop is closed ( on Sundays and openinghours) , but otherwise for free when shop is open. And that one = 50kW charger was ideally located , after 170km.
Bra video! Har du planer om å teste Citroen e-C4?
Great Video - How long does it take to charge the battery?
Really good video !! Hope you can do this test with the iX3 !!
Greetings Kris !!
Nice video, as always. It could be that rain just above freezing point cools down a car more than dry subzero air. Which would make the HVAC run harder. Let's see if there's a HVAC specialist in the comments.
I want a test from Grotli charger to Stryn and back in winter. 1000 m elevation differens challange.
Thankfully we hardly have these temperatures in the U.K. If we did then the roads would not be drivable!
Normal temperatures in parts of Scotland 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for letting me comment, the ones that don't hate it when I mention those horrible things called facts.
Hello very nice video! Two questions: what driving mode do you use? And do you sometimes use the 1 pedal driving?
What happens if you run out of juice while driving these electric cars ? 🤔
When using studded tires consumption will go up even further. Maybe EV shouldn’t use studded tires in winter?
I have Michelin with studs on mine Plug in GTE.
Why is the remaining range so out of whack with what is the remaining state of charge?
EV in cold temperature... Has anyone made a test in minus 25 to minus 30 degrees centigrade?
Nice video.I have been driving ev cars for over 30 years.It is wet road and headwind that take most power.Below 10 C degrees it
start to incline power also.Over 10 degress its no big deal..But the most powerdrain you can find is uphill, they are terrible and the
downhill does not compensate att all.
Over 30 years?
@@jurgie
He must be a milk man🙂
We’re running on fumes 😅
Studying much about "what EV to buy" I think the main important feature of EV is degradation of battery. Unfortunately i can't find any degradation statistics of the CATL(China) battery in PSA models :-) IDx with LG(S.Korea) are not the champion at all regarding degradation, Tesla 3 is better and winner is Niro with SK Innovation(S.Korea) battery... :-)
Are you a american in Norway?
Why are you in B-mode because it will slow you down going downhills too much so you loose power? B-mode is only for city centres.
I have to agree B mode would effect the range.
Just 100 kph is pretty slow. How about the range with heater on at 21c. and doing 120 kph.? Unlikely to get 150 km. range. Also that heavy charging cable cc ould cause an accident as no cover over the facility. To sum up EV's are pathetic. The price for charging is generally more than for an efficient petrol or diesel as charging costs are becoming excessive. Then factor in the waiting in the cold and wet for the unreliable chargers and excessive weight and purchase Cost of an EV . Complete and total load of crap. I rest my case.
Why drive 120kmh if you want to test how far it goes? 😂
255kwh at 55mph damm that’s bad that’s almost Etron levels
E-Tron did almost 35kWh/100km in the same test 😂
You are not allowed to drive 120 kwh. in Norway. Max speed is 110 kwh
the 2008 ev computer is not accurate i have just test driven this car iam going to order the id4 ev it is a better car
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as always pointless post from the troll