In all honesty I thought that zach did give karen a proper closure in the salon when he gave her the remaining balance of what he owed her. So what more proper closure she wants, he wasn't mad or hostile he was calm when they spoke so........
@@tomi9897 facts and that episode last night I wanted to jump through the tv and shake karen until her senses come back. Zach told her over and over that it's over and you could see he was pissed last night too
Its about the money if Zack didn't have all that money Karen wouldn't be having strong feelings like that and also Zack is starting to be happy now without her.
Yes she needs to leave zach alone zach has a good woman that love him and believes in him she didn't so Karen good and get your man take you acted lover you wanted him then
She is a liar because she never apologized to Zack for having him arrested. Until Zac mentions it to her. Then she says I’m sorry. She is so full of it!!
Saying Zac when your with Aaron is a personal problem you need to get over! As you said Jeremy we don't always get closure in life so she needs to get over it!
Karen’s on desperate mode now because she really realizes that Zack is not coming back and doesn’t wanna except the fact that he is with somebody else because she’s so used to them breaking up making up etc. etc.
Who really gets closure!? When it’s over, we know it’s over… I’ve been in 3 long term relationships and never got closure.. never needed it or wanted it
Zack & Andi seeing each other hopefully is a good thing. Hopefully Andi tells Zack that Fatima only said that about him on the phone to see if Hayden was listening to her calls. Then he’ll know that Hayden was the one who sent that recording to him. Zack may be ready to take Hayden out. IDK
Tyler needs to let Zac and Tatima be a success story. And Dani allows love in her heart. Zac should know that something is up, who and why would someone send me this????? Talk to your girl. Play it for her. Problem solve. Show communication in good mature relationships. Tyler we are watching you.!
Yes I've said the same thing. He should stop portraying us in such a negative unstable mind body and soul. Present some positive to help uplift us. I had to stop watching his television shows. But I still watch the TH-cam reviews.
Expect even with Shonda it’s better because like with Fitz and Olivia from Scandal they never stopped loving each other it was the fact that Fitz was married
That's what I said! Mama Lisa needs to come help her daughter! Or just give her that Mama Lisa talk: "Look Karen, I know you still love Zac, but stop throwing yourself at a man that no longer wants you!!! That's NOT how I raised you!!!"
Karen is just like Some woman you don’t want him things are not going the way you want it to go he really is not the man you want you let him go and then when he’s doing good you are in love and want him and now all of the bad things you went through with him you tend to forget about them now you so in love BUT HE WAS NOT WHO YOU WANTED AND NOT THE KIND OF MAN YOU WANTED 😳🙄 Me are different with each woman he was not meant for you. MOVE THE FUCK ON BABY Now that you know he’s worth it’s too late baby 😅/😭 cash 💷 💰💰💰 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️
I think that this scene was made to show how strong a woman's love is. She loved him despite being broke and despite all of the times he cheated. They dated 3 years, she stated it was the longest relationship she's had. Ol girl kept telling her remember the bad times stop thinking of the good times. This scene spoke on how a woman who knows she was treated wrong but still doesn't give up still makes excuses for the man and knows that she has a weak spot for him , it doesn't matter that she has a man that loves her and just wants her she is telling him in order to move on she needs to hear from him that it's over that he doesn't love her anymore bcus that would make it easier for her to move on. If she still think he loves her she is always going to keep the man who wants to marry her on hold. You argue with your man and they say things they don't mean or do but y'all make up. She doesn't want to be stuck on him she needs him to tell her it's over he doesn't want her in order for her to be able to not want him anymore. She wants the hold he has over her to be lifted.
He told her it was over in the salon the first time He said he done We done way before this She just not listening She think she own Zac all these years she act like they been together 10 years or more
She took too much time last week.....She did not want him when he was broke now he has some change and someone else she wants closures .......get out of here get on with your life Karen is toxic
I saw where andi real life boyfriend is jacobie wow they were at an awards show together they said they kept it ok the low to keep there jobs wow who knew he said a year ago he was a valet pool parking cars.
Zack ain't all that.....he lucked out and made a wise investment which someone else threw in his lab...Karen I think wants him because he's what she always wanted now that he has some coins....all these ladies are a mess....and are indecisive.....I don't even think Fatema....knows what she wants.
Okay Zac and Karen just got out of a 3 year relationship where Karen invested everything into him and she shouldn’t want proper closure? But something is wrong with Aaron because he want to disregard the 3 year relationship? The fans are bipolar.
Just because people are in a long time relation does not mean its a good relationship . Its a toxic relationship they are in, not good for each other. Everything has a expiration date. He already told her it was over.......how much closure does she need. He is with someone else move on.
@@chinuephillips4464 exactly “HE “ said it was over. Idc wat nobody says dont NO RELATIONSHIP end specially 3 yr realationship end after one person says they done, without one of them back tracking. She is owed closure 3 years of heart ache and taking care if a man he owes her that. Nothing is wrong for fighting for what u want if u win good if u loose thats ok too, at least u kno u didnt let go without a fight. Couldnt nobody tell me what i can and cant do with someone i invested time, love, loyalty, heartache and money into. Just cause zach is Sexy dont make him a saint. He was just as toxic as she was. But because he has fatima and money now, no one remembers the heartache he put Karen through FIRST!
Karen shouldn't question Andi....Karen wasn't there for Andi when she thought her and Gary was going to get married since she so hung up on loyalty. Only thing Andi knows is Zac wants Fatima and Fatima likes Zac....they have never discussed anything in particular about Zac and Fatima relationship.
@@MUNCHOSGIRL01 was it Andi all Rachet in the grocery store telling Karen’s business to Fatima? I think so. Andi has no true loyalty, that’s why she could so easily sleep with Jasmine’s husband and look that woman in the face. That’s who Gary was, someone else’s husband. The girl is self-serving. Karen stayed ready to fight for that girl.
@@theprofessionaltype1947 no, all the girls were discussing Karen and Zac playtime in the closet....at that point she did not know Fatima was even talking to Zac. That is when everyone found out that Fatima and Zac had something going on. She only saw Jasmine because she came to her office trying to seek revenge on Andi by trying to set her and the law firm up. It's not like she was all up in Jasmine face smiling and whatnot
In all honesty I thought that zach did give karen a proper closure in the salon when he gave her the remaining balance of what he owed her. So what more proper closure she wants, he wasn't mad or hostile he was calm when they spoke so........
That's what I thought too!!
Exactly!!! Karen might not want to move on, but we the
viewers are ready to move on from this story line!! 😕
@@Bayouma777 facts
@@tomi9897 facts and that episode last night I wanted to jump through the tv and shake karen until her senses come back. Zach told her over and over that it's over and you could see he was pissed last night too
I hope Zack says I already told you it's over
Its about the money if Zack didn't have all that money Karen wouldn't be having strong feelings like that and also Zack is starting to be happy now without her.
Yes she needs to leave zach alone zach has a good woman that love him and believes in him she didn't so Karen good and get your man take you acted lover you wanted him then
She is a liar because she never apologized to Zack for having him arrested. Until Zac mentions it to her. Then she says I’m sorry. She is so full of it!!
I can't stand Karen
Saying Zac when your with Aaron is a personal problem you need to get over! As you said Jeremy we don't always get closure in life so she needs to get over it!
SHES HAVING A BREAKDOWN
Exactly Karen wants to be the one who ends things.
She still should be blocked if it’s over.
Zack told her it was over when he gave her the money at her shop
Karen’s on desperate mode now because she really realizes that Zack is not coming back and doesn’t wanna except the fact that he is with somebody else because she’s so used to them breaking up making up etc. etc.
Who really gets closure!? When it’s over, we know it’s over… I’ve been in 3 long term relationships and never got closure.. never needed it or wanted it
Exactly Karen is acting like Fawn Aaron ex wife.
Karen is acting crazy like she always do always want to be in charge of everything o
Karen doesn't want Zach but she doesn't want anyone else to have him🍷
Karen is young girl simple minded. She sees that zac is moving on.
He already told Karen that it was over Karen is acting crazy
Karen Already Knew
That. She's Annoying.
Karen is a nut case. Andi should not sleep with her coworker. It will not end good for her.
Please Tell me why Zack got to look into Karen EYE'S to say I don't want you anymore. None of this made any sense. IT'S Over knucklehead.
When Zac a asks Karen was it over Karen didn’t answer she got up went in her bedroom and clo closed the door Zac didn’t get any closure
When he payed her back that was the end then. Who stole her credit card & used it.
Zack & Andi seeing each other hopefully is a good thing. Hopefully Andi tells Zack that Fatima only said that about him on the phone to see if Hayden was listening to her calls. Then he’ll know that Hayden was the one who sent that recording to him. Zack may be ready to take Hayden out. IDK
Karen really think she's the long woman that Zach wants but he's gone on
Tyler needs to let Zac and Tatima be a success story. And Dani allows love in her heart. Zac should know that something is up, who and why would someone send me this????? Talk to your girl. Play it for her. Problem solve. Show communication in good mature relationships. Tyler we are watching you.!
Yes I've said the same thing. He should stop portraying us in such a negative unstable mind body and soul. Present some positive to help uplift us.
I had to stop watching his television shows. But I still watch the TH-cam reviews.
If zac had of told Fatima on the phone about Hayden was trying to make a back offer on the house.she wouldn'ts to make that call,
That's the problem with all TP writing no one talks when they need to.
Im so tired of karen.
Karen is truly being a KAREN!
Zac put Karen back on 📵
TP writing about relationship is like Shondra Rhimes they write terrible relationships
Expect even with Shonda it’s better because like with Fitz and Olivia from Scandal they never stopped loving each other it was the fact that Fitz was married
Zac wasn’t angry when he told Karen it was over
Where's Karen mother at?
She went camping after burying the body.
@@SheniceSays214 well she needs to deal with her before things gets out of hand.
@@nathanielwoods664 I understand why her mother would want to be seen.
That's what I said! Mama Lisa needs to come help her daughter! Or just give her that Mama Lisa talk: "Look Karen, I know you still love Zac, but stop throwing yourself at a man that no longer wants you!!! That's NOT how I raised you!!!"
Karen is just like Some woman you don’t want him things are not going the way you want it to go he really is not the man you want you let him go and then when he’s doing good you are in love and want him and now all of the bad things you went through with him you tend to forget about them now you so in love BUT HE WAS NOT WHO YOU WANTED AND NOT THE KIND OF MAN YOU WANTED 😳🙄 Me are different with each woman he was not meant for you. MOVE THE FUCK ON BABY Now that you know he’s worth it’s too late baby 😅/😭 cash 💷 💰💰💰 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️
Karen wants Zac back now that he’s has money and , can stand on his own. Karen is crazy, Zac told you it’s over girl
Zach made a clean broke up with her
This is a great review!
Yes because many times Karen has called them Zac. Dead cat on him.
Jeremy Zack did the same thing to her.
I think that this scene was made to show how strong a woman's love is. She loved him despite being broke and despite all of the times he cheated. They dated 3 years, she stated it was the longest relationship she's had. Ol girl kept telling her remember the bad times stop thinking of the good times. This scene spoke on how a woman who knows she was treated wrong but still doesn't give up still makes excuses for the man and knows that she has a weak spot for him , it doesn't matter that she has a man that loves her and just wants her she is telling him in order to move on she needs to hear from him that it's over that he doesn't love her anymore bcus that would make it easier for her to move on. If she still think he loves her she is always going to keep the man who wants to marry her on hold. You argue with your man and they say things they don't mean or do but y'all make up. She doesn't want to be stuck on him she needs him to tell her it's over he doesn't want her in order for her to be able to not want him anymore. She wants the hold he has over her to be lifted.
He told her it was over in the salon the first time
He said he done
We done way before this
She just not listening
She think she own Zac all these years she act like they been together 10 years or more
She took too much time last week.....She did not want him when he was broke now he has some change and someone else she wants closures .......get out of here get on with your life Karen is toxic
I saw where andi real life boyfriend is jacobie wow they were at an awards show together they said they kept it ok the low to keep there jobs wow who knew he said a year ago he was a valet pool parking cars.
Real estate agent
Just don’t want to be the loser
It's just Karen's is acting like an spoiled brat....
Your Confusing 🤪 please slow down and explain your content 😉
Zack ain't all that.....he lucked out and made a wise investment which someone else threw in his lab...Karen I think wants him because he's what she always wanted now that he has some coins....all these ladies are a mess....and are indecisive.....I don't even think Fatema....knows what she wants.
So I guess Zac & Karen are going to get back together since Zac over Fatima trying to caught that guy listening to your conversations.
Nothing is wrong with Karen. Let sis get watever she needs to move on! 🙄
Karen needs to grow up .........
Karen needs to give up. Zach doesn't want her !
Okay Zac and Karen just got out of a 3 year relationship where Karen invested everything into him and she shouldn’t want proper closure? But something is wrong with Aaron because he want to disregard the 3 year relationship? The fans are bipolar.
Just because people are in a long time relation does not mean its a good relationship . Its a toxic relationship they are in, not good for each other. Everything has a expiration date. He already told her it was over.......how much closure does she need. He is with someone else move on.
@@chinuephillips4464 exactly “HE “ said it was over. Idc wat nobody says dont NO RELATIONSHIP end specially 3 yr realationship end after one person says they done, without one of them back tracking. She is owed closure 3 years of heart ache and taking care if a man he owes her that. Nothing is wrong for fighting for what u want if u win good if u loose thats ok too, at least u kno u didnt let go without a fight. Couldnt nobody tell me what i can and cant do with someone i invested time, love, loyalty, heartache and money into. Just cause zach is Sexy dont make him a saint. He was just as toxic as she was. But because he has fatima and money now, no one remembers the heartache he put Karen through FIRST!
Karen shouldn't question Andi....Karen wasn't there for Andi when she thought her and Gary was going to get married since she so hung up on loyalty. Only thing Andi knows is Zac wants Fatima and Fatima likes Zac....they have never discussed anything in particular about Zac and Fatima relationship.
@@MUNCHOSGIRL01 was it Andi all Rachet in the grocery store telling Karen’s business to Fatima? I think so. Andi has no true loyalty, that’s why she could so easily sleep with Jasmine’s husband and look that woman in the face. That’s who Gary was, someone else’s husband. The girl is self-serving. Karen stayed ready to fight for that girl.
@@theprofessionaltype1947 no, all the girls were discussing Karen and Zac playtime in the closet....at that point she did not know Fatima was even talking to Zac. That is when everyone found out that Fatima and Zac had something going on. She only saw Jasmine because she came to her office trying to seek revenge on Andi by trying to set her and the law firm up. It's not like she was all up in Jasmine face smiling and whatnot
Karen is pregnant
Hopefully it’s Aaron’s
Karen has not been to the doctor
Yet. She should have went to the
Doctor before she said she was preg