Why Christians Should Exercise w/ Trent Horn
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Matt and Trent discuss taking care of the Holy Spirit's temple; why exercise and eating right are an important baseline for modern Christian.
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"Why Christians should exercise w/Trent Horn..." I'd love to exercise with Trent Horn. Trent, anytime you want to throw around the weights, lemme know.
Lol 🤣😂🤣
Strong in Christ, strong in body.
I'm 9 weeks into (almost) daily weight training. I feel like a completely different person. The best part is the mental and spiritual clarity that having your physical body in order brings. It helps immensely to care for the temple of the body that God has given each of us, even if for no other reason than to not be a distraction from our spiritual pursuit of Christ.
Being honest though, I did it to keep up with my kids too.
you're a slave to the Jews.
I exercise because one day I may be called upon to defend myself or the lives of my family or friends, and in that moment my body will need to be in top physical shape. Remember there are evil people in the world who are training their bodies for evil, so the church needs warriors who are willing to train their bodies to defend the weak. Christian men should be the best of men in all aspects of manliness.
Can you point me to the Bible stories or verses where Jesus said we should answer violence with violence?
@@kevinkelly2162 Stupid troll.
To think that you should stand still while your loved ones are being attacked/robbed is ludicrous.
@@kevinkelly2162 self defence is not violence
@@kevinkelly2162 The Catholic Churc, which is the mystical body of Christ and is guided by the Holy Spirit, the third person in the Holy Trinity, teaches that we are to protect the weak and that self-defence is a moral duty, because all human beings, including ourselves, have an intrinsic worth, which we are obligated to protect.
@@kevinkelly2162 Brother, Self defence isn't violence.
Swole in Spirit baby 💪🏼✝️
I “work out” tending my garden… great exercise and brings me joy!
I have always felt that our body is a machine for our soul, and my machine needs some maintenance. lol This was a timely talk as we plan to go on the Gaps diet as a family and start walking 5ks together.
as a catholic karate coach, I definitely agree that sparring can be just like an apologetic debate lol
Last week these clowns were condemning Yoga............
@@kevinkelly2162 You don’t know the origins of Yoga & what the true Yogi’s are thinking, not what some LA millennial/zoomer thinks it is.
So yes, Yoga bad, pilates or stretching good.
Catholic Karateka with an interest in apologetic debate here as well. Happy to see I'm not alone sir. Osu!
@@kevinkelly2162 Karate is not inherently tied to other religions. I mean, some guys like Gichin Funakoshi liked to spiritually relate it to Buddhism, but other masters disagree and/or have their own philosophy. Or none at all. Here's what Mikio Yahara had to say about it: "Some people think that the tradition of Karate came from Buddhism and Karate has a connection with the absolute, space and universe, but I don't believe in that. My philosophy is to knock my opponent out, due to the use of only one technique. One finishing blow!” "Ikken Hissatsu".
@@rcbmmines4579 osu! nice to meet you!
Because it instills discipline and requires commitment, apart from the obvious health benefits. Two very important aspects if one wants to stay on the narrow path.
I practice MMA, currently, and have been an athlete all my life. It's so important to have a willing spirit and a body that's strong enough to carry that out
@@michaelmckay3179
Are you even married bro
@joehouston2833 Yes sir. Wife and two kids. How about yourself?
Take care of your body....i walk every day...jog and swim 3 times a week...go to church every sunday...ladies and gentlemen take that first step..God will be with you..just take that step..praise god from whom all blessings flow..peace
I have always done strength training at home and followed along with exercise videos on TH-cam etc. God says our bodies are temples, and we should do our utmost to respect it. That includes abstaining from drug ad alcohol abuse, getting a sufficient amount of sleep, and taking care of your mental health ☺️
I also have similar outcomes in my experience. Body and soul composite. Small example, I do one meal a day fasting about 2-3 times a week for spiritual intentions. At the same time, I feel physically healthier because I eat less in the process. Our body and soul are so integral that working on one effect the other.
I pray to the Lord while I’m lifting weights and training.
It literally says In the bible that physical training is good. Spiritual training is better but physical training is still good. I've seen so many Christians have given themselves over to unhealthy foods which ruin our bodies. We gotta be so careful about what we eat and what we do physically.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
Striving to honor what god gave me even it is temporary.
I exercise so I don't become a burden to my family. It also helps me have control for a period of time as I struggle with anxiety and depression.
I pray when I exercise
Keeps me Spiritually fit and physically fit. It is the best Crossfit program: keeps me fit to carry my cross and help others carry theirs ...
Idk how much I agree with the theology, but it's a super interesting take. I definitely believe that we need to be good stewards of our bodies as well as the things around us, and to be good stewards of the things around us, we need to be good stewards of our bodies. So it's a bit of a circle.
I honestly doubt someone with a crippling degenerative disease would say "my body is me" However I would argue if they had the ability/capacity to make their body healthier they would. Who knows what our perfect resurrected bodies will look like.
For all you rad trads in the comments, just remember this is a short clip from a 2.5 hour discussion of random topics. It's not dogma.
If someone doesn't exercise and take care of their body I don't put stock into anything much they have to say. Especially politics, if a person doesn't lift weights nothing they say means anything to me.
RIP all calisthenics/cardio brodies and brodettes
@@thomasbailey921 I've run ultra marathons, including a 100 miler. No reason not to lift too.
Seems like a pretty moronic mindset, but okay.
I love fitness and this is ridiculous lol
@@austina701 damn I forgot the essential upper body strength needed to be a politician. Seems like you've taken this topic too far to the other side of immoderate. Instead of being slovenly you're overly obsessed with your own form and if people dont stack up to YOUR ideal form I guess they must be inferior.
This kind of excessive pride led to Lucifer.
How does one understand purgatory through the corruptionist framework?
It annoys me when Christians start exercising, and the first thing their Christian friends do is quote, "Bodily exercise is of SOME use but godliness is useful in every way"
Nobody ever worries about us eating every day!
It is good to excercise, it is good to enjoy food and drinks, it is of course about to what end and in moderation. To love food and eat some quite unhealthy stuff is bad if you do it for it's own sake. But to do it in love of Gods creation, and within reason, it may be good because it may bring you closer to God. Similarly, if you work out just to be rippped, it's bad because it is centered around yourself. If you excercise to be a more healthy father, or to just feel better and to more easily fulfil your vocation it is good.
It's the key difference of moderation and forethought between glutton and gourmet, between gymbro and people who work out. The ultimate end should of course be to please God.
Amen. Being cautious that we don't fall into an unhealthy habit can be uncomfortable sometimes but it's necessary and the fruits of it, after a bit of toil, will show. May God strengthen us to do His will.
Christians should be working with their hands, correct? Between children, work, chores, kneeling for the Rosary, walking when time allows, I'm going to call it good. Functional exercise is where I'm at.
I'm curious what Trent means since the saints experience the Beautific Vision and we pray to them for intercession- even if they are still lacking in some way before the resurrection of the body
"Benedictus Deus" which defined the state of souls immediately following death and prior to the general resurrection (when we receive our bodies again) only says that the *souls* of the saints either enter into purgatory or experience the beatific vision. Same with the Council of Florence. We say we ask for the intercession of (for example) St Terese bc it is her soul to whom we ask. So it's just shorthand. At least this is the corruptionist position.
I think he covered this a little when he said our bodies and souls still do stuff separately. Our bodies decay and our souls get judged. I think experiences such as purgatory, the beatific vision, and praying for others would also fall under the category of things our souls do during that separation period.
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Absent from the body present with the Lord.
I don't really agree with Trent here. The reason is because our spiritual development is far more important. But I think it's beneficial to exercise but it's not nearly as important. I'd like to know what the exercise regiment of St. Francis was or St. Padre Pio.
How does the view of saints and purgatory fit in with Trents view of what happens after we die?
"Benedictus Deus" which defined the state of souls immediately following death and prior to the general resurrection (when we receive our bodies again) only says that the *souls* of the saints either enter into purgatory or experience the beatific vision. Same with the Council of Florence.
I kind of see what you mean. It's difficult to consider yourself nonexistent if you are still sentient enough to experience purgatory and the beatific vision. Although I agree that our bodies are an integral part of our human existence, but I think the separation of body and soul will be more like losing a part. An amputee still exists when he loses his limb. Though he may get used to the loss with time, he is in one sense now incomplete while in another sense he is still himself. Maybe when our souls separate from our bodies it is like missing a leg except it's our entire bodies that are missing. In death our bodies decay without the form of the soul and can be replaced at the resurrection of the body, just as in life the matter in our bodies is constantly being replaced through digestion and respiration even with the form of the soul. Getting our bodies back will be just like a healing miracle where our bodies are restored to our souls. Our new bodies will be just as much a part of us as in life because of the form of the soul, or perhaps even more a part of us because of their glorified state. I guess I like to imagine my sentience and existence as attached to my soul until then because I don't want to think of myself as a decaying husk. Also the bodily aspect of our existence is dependent on which matter is composite with our souls at any given time. Our waste is no longer part of us even if it was a part of our bodies at one time. While a complete human has both a body and soul, the soul exists eternally because it doesn't have parts that break down like the body does. To me, it seems that the person continues to exist with his soul after death and can function in all ways that souls can (such as praying) but he's in a disabled state until his bodily powers are restored to him.
We are bodily souls, No ghost in the machine.. I think that is Aquinas teaching
St. Leo the Great says "Christ's inexpressive grace gave us blessings better than those the demons envy has taken away". Please am struggling to understand what Our Revered St Pope leo means by this statement. What exactly are the blessings the demons envy has taken away, and what greater blessings do we now have as believers in Christ. Can someone help me with a response please, Thanks.🙏
1:25 so is the corruptionist view similar to soul sleeping? When we die is there a period where we don’t exist? Surely this is contrary to Christ’s words: “today, you will be with me in paradise’ (Luke 23)
You exist after death without your body. Your soul exists and is awake, alive. Otherwise you could not pray to the saints in Heaven who are there without bodies (except for the Blessed Mother and some others who do have bodies), there would be no prayers for the souls in purgatory who are there are suffering terribly, or the rich man who asked Abraham to send Dives to dip his finger in water . If you are not alive after death without your body, then how do we say "St. Joseph, pray for us" or "St. Francis, pray for us". Who would you be praying to?
Why is Lazarus though, resting at Abraham’s bosom, still called by his name if he doesn’t have his body present. Seems like he’s still Lazarus. Use this example for us post-Chris’s resurrection. Aren’t we still called by name, and thus sill Trent Horn for example?
1:03 We don't get our old bodies back in Resurrection. It's a body of spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:50, 'Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God "
So Jesus wasn't resurrected in both body and soul after His crucifixion and burial? Only His soul? That sounds like some gnostic heresy, amigo. Our bodies are good as they are made by God Almighty.
@@siervodedios5952 you're right. Jesus rose fully in flesh according to Orthodox Christian faith, yes.
I don’t know. I’ve looked at the last several popes and they didn’t look like they were throwing barbells. C.S. Lewis? G. K. Chesterton?
@@HosscatForJesus cope
@@jimmytwo-times4394 Sorry, but I don't understand your comment.
I don’t see anything in the Bible which mandates training. I could be wrong but it just seems like it was not considered very important to rhe apostles.
He ignores that we are also spirit-triune beings.
Holy Gains 💪
I've heard it suggested that God gives us a sort of 'interim body' after death and prior to the Resurrection. I'm curious what your thoughts might be?
God will create new bodies for the faithful because a whole parcel load of 1st century Christians were thrown by order of Nero, to the Lions and others were used as human torches to light Rome's streets and diabolical things all that happened during Peter and Paul's time on earth, so the way I see it we get totally new spiritual bodies and not the corruptible ones we have now,
@@alexbernard8907 It does seem like the Church Triumphant isn’t this disembodied force that’s on the sidelines until Judgement Day. I’m inclined to think that the saints are actively engaged as persons in our affairs.
@@alexbernard8907 Can I get one with a larger appendage? Dont want to go through eternity with a wee willy
Working out is boring. But Jazzercise and dancing isn’t!
“Lol”😊
Ohhh exercise... I thought you meant like the exorcist...
This sounds like malarky.
Catholic joe Rogan
Hardly
Guy thinks he *is* his body? How does he feel about giving blood? Cutting his hair? Having a wart removed?
So? To say you are not your body and your body is not you is Gnosticism.
You are a body and a soul, I believe!
Well, these things are parts of your body only if connected to your living whole. Blood leaves your body, it's not your body anymore, and you are not in it.
Uh no. We are body AND soul. To try and distinguish between the two and separate them and say that you're one more than the other or that one part is insignificant is ridiculously absurd and as another commented pointed out, is also Gnosticism.
Tell me about it someone tell him every year every cell of his body changes completely