Let's Make a Fire Emblem Fates Conquest Tier List (in 15 minutes)

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  • @lorddelibird
    @lorddelibird ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Nyx in B and Mozu in E. This is certainly one of the tier lists of all time 😂

  • @JuliusKingsleyXIII
    @JuliusKingsleyXIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I like how this is exclusively a Conquest ranking and Rinkah still got put on the F tier.

    • @MythrilZenith
      @MythrilZenith  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She was on the list I guess because the original listmaker assumed her usage in the like 3 chapters of the prologue? Either way she's *technically* playable during the regular game so I included her.
      And yeah, she's so bad. I want to make her good but I just can't, even on Birthright.

    • @supergoodadvice853
      @supergoodadvice853 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's so bad, that you're better off using her as a pair up bot with Kaze or Corrin during the beginning, no matter what path.

  • @Tilkino
    @Tilkino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I personally LOVE using Effie despite her slow movements. I would rank her S- Tier. She can survive a lot of attacks even if it's super effective. Unless it's mages with high rank tomes. She's very powerful offense and defense. She is that powerhouse that even tho she goes slow, I make sure the enemy can get to her first before the other units.

    • @MythrilZenith
      @MythrilZenith  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I didn't really want to put in + or - tiers, and while I agree Effie is one of the best units in Conquest it's hard to really say that she's on the same level as Corrin or Camilla.

    • @neog8029
      @neog8029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Archer Effie is such a player phase powerhouse in Conquest. She also keeps some of her bulk and it makes her speed good enough. Kinshi fixes the movement problem and let's her put her Lance rank back to use. Sniper fixes any hit issues she might have and let's you punch through bulky enemies.
      Knight Effie is C-B tier for me. But Archer Effie is a lock in A tier.

  • @rose.i
    @rose.i ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How anyone could put mozu in E tier is beyond me. Heart seal her immediately into archer and feed her all the kills during her paralogue which is really easy to do. She’ll come out of it a level 10 archer with D rank bows and aptitude will mean that unless you got completely rng screwed she’ll have incredible stats. Personally I’ve never had her end up with anything less than amazing str, spd and, skl as well as decent bulk. She’s also just amazing as another archer for your squad. There are lots of fliers in conquest and they can be a problem on many maps so having a unit besides niles who can just delete them is very strong. If you marry her to Arthur or Silas/Xander she can partner seal into fighter or cavalier and grab gamble or elbow room respectively. When she upgrades to sniper the innate crit bonus plus a killer bow plus her high skill will leave her with like a 40% crit rate 50% with gamble. With bowfaire and quick draw she gets a built in 8 extra dmg or 11 extra dmg with elbow room. Certain blow means that even with gamble it's basically impossible for her to miss. Her insane speed stat makes it so that she doubles anything that isn't a ninja or swordmaster and depending on how speed blessed she gets she doubles them sometimes too. She basically becomes a player phase instant delete button even on many bosses. Plus you can have her pass down aptitude to whoever her child is which means that their growths will be insane too. Idk how she’s not an A tier unit. Literally her only drawback is that she can be on the squishy side sometimes depending on how rng favors you which really doesn't matter because shes a ranged unit who does most of her work during the player phase. Idk how you could rate her any lower than A tier.

  • @swiftlandin3683
    @swiftlandin3683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that being said I have some issues in each tier.
    S - I think Kaze is high A, he’s not a must pick and matchups he wants to take are primarily against mages. Any foe with accuracy threatens him after 1 hit no matter the pair up.
    A - Xander should be S it’s not even close. I hear a lot people say he’s worse than Ryoma but you can very easily stack speed on Xander. Not to mention he solos Hard and Normal and had multiple classes that are viable. Hero Xander is incredible. He is the best and safest enemy lure in the game. Silas I would argue for B, his growths and stats are very average and don’t really stand out. He has an awkward personal skill and while his daughter starts off worse she outclasses him late game. There’s also no reason to use Shura. Whether or not the boots are worth over him is up in the air however a unit that only supports with the avatar is a liability and his higher strength doesn’t warrant use over Niles.
    B - Elise should be high A or low S. Demoiselle + Poise is -5 effective reduction. Has pretty good availability and dps late game. Arthur is a mixed bag because in order to be good he must be used as a back pack or use a heart seal on him. Regardless low luck is nightmare for Ironmans and at best he becomes a tanky cavalier which Xander and Silas already do better, he should be C. I love Nyx, but she gets one shot by everything that isn’t a mage no matter the point in the game. Her skill and luck are trash so she’s missing a good bit of attacks that aren’t point blank range, easy C or D. Peri is unique, if you make her a ninja with a partner seal she’s actually insane, but she’s fine where she is.
    C - I don’t see how you can put Ophelia in the same tier as Odin, or even the children that low in general. Ophelia with Elise as the mom is the best mage in the game it’s not even close, she’s makes nyx useless. Every child should be B, stats and skills alone carry them, however Velouria, Percy, and Nina should be A. Percy is a better Beruka it’s just objectively true, Nina outclasses Niles in terms of combat, and Velouria is good in any class. The biggest change should be Charlotte into A. She is not very hard to train, additionally she is a ninja killer and one shots just like Effie after promotion.
    D - Keaton is decent and can flex as a non weapon triangle tank and a beast killer. Low C would be fine. Benny is probably the most underrated character in the game. The best mixed tank in Fates. Doesn’t require much investment, makes ch 19-20 easier, and typically doesn’t miss any hits. High B or low A.
    E- A lot of people think Mozu is untrainable especially on Lunatic but it’s actually quite easy. If you make Mozu an archer she’s actually a very reliable dps that will always hit and double most enemies. I’d argue for low B.

    • @neog8029
      @neog8029 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mozu is S tier unit and contributes throughout the campaign. Archer Mozu is one of the single strongest player phase units and boss killers in the series imo. She quickly becomes THE single-target delete button and, and that's really valuable in Conquest.

    • @4blissful
      @4blissful ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@neog8029 everyone is underestimating the power of mozu.

    • @lorddelibird
      @lorddelibird ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Late to this but Mozu also gives archer to OTHER units if you don’t want to train her. Find Niles speed good but he’s a bit too weak? Marry him to Mozu and get him quick draw and bowfaire. Effie loves Mozu friendship for kinshi knight class and quick draw. Archer is such an insane class and unless you’re giving your Corrin archer, Mozu is your ONLY option to get into it.

    • @supergoodadvice853
      @supergoodadvice853 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@lorddelibirdIt's also just the most flat out optimal thing to do. Having Mozu as an Archer in Chapter 10 is game changing, to the point where you won't even need Camilla.

  • @platinum6619
    @platinum6619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Also mozu and Kaze have equal speed if you count aptitude

  • @CosmicToad5000
    @CosmicToad5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i'd lift benny up to C personally, maybe even low B. I think there's a merit in just how tanky he is. While Effie has better availability & OHKO potential, Benny has one important thing over her and that is an actually pretty great res stat. other tanks life Effie & Xander are gonna get shredded by the stupidly strong sorcerers in the mid-late game to the point where even the prescience of a single magic enemy can be enough to make an enemy formation too much for them, whereas Benny can take a handful of spells to the face before his hp starts to get to dangerous levels.
    Benny laughs in the face of Fates' anti-tanking measures like debuffs & poison strike. his def is so damn good that a paltry seal defense isn't gonna be enough for him to start taking major damage, and poison strike/savage blow/grisly wound aren't an issue for him since Ninjas & faceless aren't gonna be able to scratch him to begin with. once he gets Wary Fighter you can place him in range of just about any Enemy formation and be confident in his survival which i think is pretty commendable.
    He's held back a bit by Conquest enemies not attacking if they deal 0 damage (unless they inflict debuffs and/or have skills like poison strike) but by choosing what defensive support he gets from pairups/skills/etc you can get him to that perfect range where he's tanking like 2-5 damage per enemy so they all dog pile him and lose a good chuck of their hp from Benny's formidable strength, even if it isn't Effie tier.
    it's also worth mentioning that due to his min-maxed stallone you can use benny at very low investment and still have him contribute if you pick his matchups carefully., like you can bring the guy at base level to most of the maps up to the Eternal Stairway and he can do stuff, throw him a master seal (which he can use instantly without major drawbacks thanks to his fantastic base lvl of 15 in Ch 13, for reference Charlotte joins at the same time at lvl 10) and he becomes even more useful without you really having to worry about what supports he's building or buffs he's getting.
    I don't think he's a absolute must have, amazing unit, but he's a cut above the lategame staff bot with awful bases and the dude who has to reclass if he wants 1-2 range.

  • @peterh2223
    @peterh2223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We live in a society where people unironically put Nyx and Elise (and Jakob, although this is debatable) above Felicia

    • @matdylwils
      @matdylwils ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, in conquest, she’s not exactly what the campaign needs. Jakob can very efficiently fill her role and still be effective physically. Magically? She’s middle of the road especially until you can reclass and train her.

    • @Sylvainjose-satoyumiyato
      @Sylvainjose-satoyumiyato หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jakob is a bit more versatile, and Elise has a higher mag stat

  • @platinum6619
    @platinum6619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’d put mozu in S tier. I guess I got lucky but every time I’ve used her she became a walking killer bow nuclear warhead

    • @NotADegenerate
      @NotADegenerate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mozu is solid, it’s just that she takes a lot of effort and favouritism in order to make her work. That’s why most people, including myself who loves using mozu, puts her in low tiers.

    • @ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
      @ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NotADegenerate not necessarily, there's actually a strat to get her all the way to level 7 in just her joining chapter in only 10 turns on lunatic

    • @ununun9995
      @ununun9995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 do the boss moves in lunatic or is he still a punching bag for bows?

    • @christofferovergaard6328
      @christofferovergaard6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ununun9995 still a punching bag

  • @kentknightofcaelin4537
    @kentknightofcaelin4537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gunter in E tier? I hope that's a joke. You should deploy him in every single map he's in.

    • @GeaForce
      @GeaForce ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem is he joins right before Xander, and yeah, that's not a fair comparison. However most people doesn't take into acount his weapon proficiencies. You can reclass him into anything (f. ex: wyvern paladin) and he'll still be able to use most steel and above weapons.

    • @Cupcakkecult
      @Cupcakkecult 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GeaForceno he’s a pair up bot for Corrin that’s why he’s good

  • @shikouji
    @shikouji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my mozu on hard became a sniper and she double hits everyone and nearly always crits. i dunno why people hate her.

  • @lalalabizola
    @lalalabizola ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In all my Conquest playthroughs, Odin has been as good or better than Leo. Even with all the nerfs, Nosferatu is still OP as fuck and if you give him the many Spirit Dusts Conquest throws in your way, he's one of the most reliable 1~2 range tanks you can have in that route. And he can hit like a truck from time to time when you switch tomes and let him abuse his insanely high crit chance + smithed Mjollnir.

  • @Big-Chungus21
    @Big-Chungus21 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly think Mozu is a fantastic unit in Conquest if you reclass her into an archer, as she is one of your only bow units alongside Niles for quite a while, and is usually fast enough to double most enemies. Also just makes those early chapters with flying units so much easier.

  • @jddsrt4
    @jddsrt4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IMO Felicia is the better choice on Conquest Lunatic. Paired up with a Magic>Luck Corrin with a Dragonstone, he almost one shots everything with his insane magic stat buff. Also Felicia's personal skill helps him a lot to tank and dish out punishment. Once you get the Levin Sword for Corrin. Paired with Felicia, congratulations you beat Conquest Lunatic.

  • @Cupcakkecult
    @Cupcakkecult 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok the fact that you just completely ignored all of the 2nd gen units except the only bad one which you put way too high

  • @rogeralvarado548
    @rogeralvarado548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why in the blue hell is mozu on E tier?, That fucker is the only way to succed no death conquest on hard mode.

  • @demonizingwrath7394
    @demonizingwrath7394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While i get that some things about this list do make sense i think its a bit very narrow minded with how theyre ranked. As in not taking into account reclasses and things like pairings and thats to the detriment like for example gunter. Yeah sure hes not that viable because of join time but his bases make up for it and the ability to reclass into wyvern which helps because of the ranks he gains being transferrable. And mozu is horribly ignored because you can say utilize the free dlc to get paragon apply that to mozu and reclass her since youd be getting bows pretty swiftly and she will get to that point where she can reliably hit ninja's and double them while at the same time benefitting from a pair up that can buff up her utility like arthur if your not gonna use him for long term. But the fact that charlotte is lower than arthur does kinda bug me because she generally is better even though she's later because she can utilize better pair up utility like with xander and will have more of a pool of skills that play to her strengths. But the fact odin and ophelia are lower than nyx does disturb me in that respect because odin has great skillsets that you can utilize alot more with nyx and he'd gain better use of nos because of both his stanfard mage setup and the use of duelists blow and vantage which makes chapter 10 alot more managable. But with elise id think shes more of a high A because malig knight is generally a better class for her to go down because of both tomes and the bolt axe. And while effie is the offensive armour knight that can be good for great knight if your lucky. Benny is very great defensively and he can generally handle some mages in late game. But keaton being down in D when he gets alot of use in late game where you deal with alot of mounts and fliers plays to the beastbane advantage and being a really solid pair up option if you need him to with the +3strength and speed. I mean the only units i dont see being as viable are laslow and peri because selena and silas generally outclass them during their join map so theyre kinda overlooked. I personally think izana would go slightly higher as well because while his personal is a worse inspiration it still allows you to combine that with another inspiration which mitigates the negative effect on your own units while also providing -4 to damage enemy damage which for cq where they start to stack up rallies is kinda needed.

  • @christofferovergaard6328
    @christofferovergaard6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Elise and Mozu should move op their heart seal classes makes them
    i think Odin with a nasfartu tome is a way more consistent unit then Arthur
    honestly i think your opinion on the units blending together is wrong, there friendshipseals and heartseal classes makes em uenige

  • @Xertaron.
    @Xertaron. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rapid fire or not, putting Nyx above Odin AND Felicia in any context makes no sense - she's strictly worse than both of them in almost every way.
    Felicia is indeed worse than Jakob between chapters 7-11, but then you get Flame Shuriken midway through ch12 and Felicia (who is the only unit in Conquest that can use it effectively) evolves from a Magikarp into a Gyarados in terms of damage, while Jakob doesn't have power spike like that, he requires good amount of investment to stay relevant. And then there's late joining servant - Felicia is still decent filler thanks to Flame Shuriken, but Jakob is pretty much exclusively a staff bot and not even good one at that.
    Xander is S tier, no other way around it. His availability isn't great, but when he arrives he's a game changer - no one can enemy phase as well as Xander does, maybe except Benny/Effie if you raised them a lot. He opens up a lot of possibilities that would otherwise be unavailable, because most of your units can't enemy phase.
    Awakening trio are way better than C, they have access to bunch of crucial breaker skills as well as being solid units. Benny isn't D tier, his bulk is exceptional and Wary Fighter makes his low speed irrelevant, allowing him to be almost as good as Xander when it comes to enemy phase.
    Gunter is way better than E - he's a very decent filler, not just a backpack. Sure he's not a long term unit, but he's very useful in chapters he's available in for his utility as well as passable combat. Flora on the other hand is propably the worst unit in Conquest - she's both slow AND frail AND she joins after late servant so there's not much for her to do at this point unless you lost all your staffers.

  • @xyannail4678
    @xyannail4678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's Effie!Velouria and Elise!Ophelia not being in S tier. Basically carry you around the whole game physical and magic attacks. The same goes for Nyx and Keaton.

  • @officermario1647
    @officermario1647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Arthur is definitely worth the build up, and I’m revelation he’s even more worth it

  • @masoncowan8596
    @masoncowan8596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    >Charolette in c
    This video is unwatchable.
    Jk jk this is gonna come in handy when i start my conquest playthrough

    • @Cupcakkecult
      @Cupcakkecult 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Don’t follow this list it is actually really bad

  • @scrapyarddragon
    @scrapyarddragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the most cursed conquest tier list I've ever seen.
    You put keaton below midori, selena, and BERUKA. Opinion discarded my guy. I don't even want to say that selena is THAT bad because she can actually do solid work if you put the effort into having her not be stuck in mercenary (either by early promote or friend sealing into wyvern rider) but keaton is such an easy and braindead unit to just give any half-decent wife and just hurl into the crowd of enemies to go murderize everything. Even if his FULL potential isn't super high, his baseline is just so good that he can still put in plenty of work and help spawn a kid that can also do plenty of work, while letting you focus resources into other characters who actually need the attention to do well.

    • @Stigmaphobia777
      @Stigmaphobia777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Biggest issue with Keaton is his daughter really wants powerful Camilla genes. Meaning he sits in the back of a pairup because Camilla is almost always super busy in Lunatic.

  • @jumpmanbestlucina2984
    @jumpmanbestlucina2984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is some hot hot takes but I g

  • @jamesfreeman6946
    @jamesfreeman6946 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spend more time playing the game than talking about it lmao

  • @user-xb1lr8ds4q
    @user-xb1lr8ds4q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    congrats, u made the worst tier list i ever seen

  • @toureyounouss7897
    @toureyounouss7897 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How the hell azura is S tier ?

    • @Cupcakkecult
      @Cupcakkecult 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Out of every horrible placing you complain about one of the few good ones

    • @toureyounouss7897
      @toureyounouss7897 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cupcakkecult And out of this placement that I don't understand, you complain about my question

    • @Cupcakkecult
      @Cupcakkecult 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@toureyounouss7897 it’s because dancers are broken and you can use shelter Strats to have multiple dances a turn

    • @toureyounouss7897
      @toureyounouss7897 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cupcakkecult oh, I didn't know that🤔

  • @shalawalters1361
    @shalawalters1361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo