Did a 155.04 yesterday. 30 second music run @ 29hz. Drivers door open. Three EM Super Team 18s on three Ruthless 8500s @ .5. No wall. Fresh Recones. Absolutely in love with how they sound too.
I think that motor would be better with a 15" or 18" cone and basket attached to it. The motor is so strong that it just destroys anything that doesn't have enough cone area to provide adequate air resistance to stop the motor from shaking the soft parts to shreds 😂. That's a beefy ass motor right there. I bet a single 15", or even better, an 18" version, would have incredible potential for just a single subwoofer on an amplifier like a Taramps Smart 8k. You could probably hit a 150db no problem with a single 18" on a Smart 8k with the right box in the right car. Hell, as long as the box is high quality, and you have the electrical and lithium batteries to support the Smart 8k, you would probably be able to hit 150db in almost anything except maybe the biggest SUV's and Trucks.
@@catch22frubert these parts won't shred. The cone,cap, or spider. These newer version parts are pretty much the best out on the market. Our custom tooled spider is 6-layers and 1/8" thick.
That sub is crazy! Cool to see what it does as a 12 but have to wonder what it would do converted to 18. Great to see EM upgraded the spiders. Another great video Parker!
@@mattsnider5904 seriously, this was definitely built to be mounted inverted. Does anyone even put magnets inside the enclosure anymore? I have been mounting all of my Subs inverted for years now. And not because of how it looks, strictly for cooling purposes. After experiencing a handful of thermal failures, I learned my lesson.
The Sundown world champion subs aren't inverted. And he hits 186 db!! I think it's just preference. You do you bro lol! As long as you are getting monstrous bass who cares I guess.
@@EagleTheBirdmanYou think (4) of the Super Team 18 inch, D1 coiled subs, wired down to 1/2 ohm each, with this new spider pack, with 1- Bass Smart 8k, per sub, wired @ 1/2 ohm each, would be Awesome?
I have a 4th order with the motors inside the sealed section. I put a temp sensor inside the pole vent and have it connected to a thermostat. When the temp gets too high it will make a buzzer start buzzing to let me know. I know it isn't actually getting the coil temp but it will still get hot in there when the coil gets hot. Thermostat is set to 150 degrees. Was nice to meet you and exchange demos at the Knoxville show yesterday also.
Could build an overlapping puzzle piece style baffle that you can slide together around the basket so it's the ultimate sleeper sub with that giant motor being hidden inside the box. Use a removable front baffle with t-nuts to seal the puzzle piece baffle to stop any leaks.
If you wanna set it up properly you can make a top plate cut in half prop the sub up slide the two halves together then screw it down then put another top plate cut out to flush mount over the surround and screw it together.
That first one was a great example of why i never understood people using their amp to blow subs on purpose, I'm not trying to test the short circuit protection on my amp
@EagleTheBirdman what about soft parts for a zv5? I really thought about this like a months ago. Carbon fiber cone, Carbon fiber dust cap, brown progressive spider and 3 inch coil. Basically this sub soft parts but for a zv5 basket and motor. I have 2 zv5's that are due for a serious recone.
I have 2 sdr 15's on rp2000.1d. They are in separate boxes and I'm looking for a dual 15 box. Everything I find is tuned to 39-41hz. Will those boxes still hit down to 25hz? I really don't want to build a box if I can help it and I'd like to stay below $200. Am I asking for too much or are there any good options?
Hey an idea for a video. Settle the debate about distortion. Get a speaker rated say 1000rms. Test it to find its true maximum. Then compare "clean power" and distorted signals. See if the same amount of watts distorted actually damages the speaker compared to clean watts. Or whether distorted watts only damage because they are greater watts and not because they are distorted.
There is a guy here on youtube that has 4 FI subs on 2 16ks and he was hitting around 164 db on a burp and I think 159 on music. He bought 4 of the bass 8ks and his burp score went down because of the amp limiting power but his score on music went up by 2 db.
Switch the meter to driver side dash, then open passenger door. Or flip port to passenger side, open drive side door, and meter on passenger windshield. I bet you'll gain 2-3 DBs.
Great review. Beast of a sub and nice to look at. But I just can’t see it being worth $2000. MBE is hitting over 140 db on music with 8’s and half the power.
@@The_Crasher-xj4el The box is only part of it. To run just one of these monsters it also requires a ton of power (10k at least. )And a massive electrical upgrade. I’m not knocking anyone. If you like it I love it. I enjoyed the video. Personally I think there’s much better bang for this amount of buck.
@@TheGooch123 very much aware that it’s only a part of it. Electrical is also key. I’m currently prepping for a 2 15 blowthrough. Only going to be running 5500w or so of continuous wattage. I’ve done a JS 320, dual 1/0 alt runs to front battery, dual battery to frame grounds alternator to frame ground 1/0 engine to frame ground. All ofc. It’s in a single cab, so I’ve also done 2 oversized 1/0 power runs to rear and dual rear frame grounds. There is absolutely less expensive ways to do this, but it is awesome seeing a single 12 so large and taking such an insane amount of power. And for 8,000 watts you realistically only need 15ah of LTO (I’ll have 10) and a 320a alt or larger. If you wanted to stick with AGM it would take a lot of it but it could be done.
Oh course they are. This one has our own custom tooled progressive high xmax spider pack. The 1st one he tested was a off the shelf spider that we stacked and glued. The new Tan spider is a single pack. Wont come unglued now. And the epoxy we use (same as sundown) spider won't come up now lol
@@EagleTheBirdman Wow it sure took a pounding. What is the real RMS rating and peak wattage of it? I am sure someone can make an enclosure for that sub so that it doesn't have to be inverted.
Did a 155.04 yesterday. 30 second music run @ 29hz. Drivers door open.
Three EM Super Team 18s on three Ruthless 8500s @ .5. No wall. Fresh Recones.
Absolutely in love with how they sound too.
wall? no wall? what type of enclosure?
@@robertwilliams7188no wall. Ported enclosure subs up port up. 24.5" to the top of the surrounds. So it's a legal IASCA no wall.
That sub is like putting an LS in a Miata 😆 What a monster 👍🔊🔊
Exactly!
Put a topper or flat cover on truck and do a build next
Had a blast yesterday at showtime. Nice meeting you and getting demos. Hopefully you’ll be at the next one!
Seconds chances should always given, Great video...
I think that motor would be better with a 15" or 18" cone and basket attached to it. The motor is so strong that it just destroys anything that doesn't have enough cone area to provide adequate air resistance to stop the motor from shaking the soft parts to shreds 😂. That's a beefy ass motor right there. I bet a single 15", or even better, an 18" version, would have incredible potential for just a single subwoofer on an amplifier like a Taramps Smart 8k. You could probably hit a 150db no problem with a single 18" on a Smart 8k with the right box in the right car. Hell, as long as the box is high quality, and you have the electrical and lithium batteries to support the Smart 8k, you would probably be able to hit 150db in almost anything except maybe the biggest SUV's and Trucks.
@@catch22frubert we offer them in 15,18, and 21" sizes. The 12" is just because they got to have it.
@@catch22frubert these parts won't shred. The cone,cap, or spider. These newer version parts are pretty much the best out on the market. Our custom tooled spider is 6-layers and 1/8" thick.
Agreed, Always impressed by Parker's videos. I'd love to get him in for a interview. Any chance of that @parkerTheBasshead ?
@@catch22frubert Yes, put a $2000 woofer on a POS $600 Taramp.....
Seriously dude
Should of tried a 20 hz cool down to see how good it actually works
I was specifically waiting for this and was disappointed he didn’t do it.
That sub is crazy! Cool to see what it does as a 12 but have to wonder what it would do converted to 18. Great to see EM upgraded the spiders. Another great video Parker!
@Parker The Basshead thank you for all your hard work your content is the best there is in car audio your our whistling diesel of car audio
I love the tests with these EM subs
Wow that thing is a monster thanks Parker for the great work continued success always bro 🙏
I appreciate you man!
I've never seen a 12-inch subwoofer with a 13-in magnet.
Haha me either until I saw this guy
They should make it taller not wider for the option if you want to put it face up in the box. The magnet definitely meant to be shown!
@@mattsnider5904 seriously, this was definitely built to be mounted inverted. Does anyone even put magnets inside the enclosure anymore? I have been mounting all of my Subs inverted for years now. And not because of how it looks, strictly for cooling purposes. After experiencing a handful of thermal failures, I learned my lesson.
The Sundown world champion subs aren't inverted. And he hits 186 db!! I think it's just preference. You do you bro lol! As long as you are getting monstrous bass who cares I guess.
@mattsnider5904 and the world record holder doesn't do demos it's not designed to play music for long periods, inverting subs is helpfull for cooling
that motor deserves a bigger cone. And that temp checker thingy was smart! especially if you have a sub that you cant directly see or feel
Alphard audio is awesome! Thanks Parker! I bought the same 10" Apocalypse subs you tested and those things ROCK! ALOHA FROM MAUI!..👍🤙🏽
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🔊🔊🔊🔊
I have seen a Deaf Bonce 4512R take °400 on their 4.5 inch coils, running off of their Aak 20,000.1 amp!
These can too. But only got too 200° with over 9k clamped power. Would probably take 15k+ rms to get it to 400°
@@EagleTheBirdmanYou think (4) of the Super Team 18 inch, D1 coiled subs, wired down to 1/2 ohm each, with this new spider pack, with 1- Bass Smart 8k, per sub, wired @ 1/2 ohm each, would be Awesome?
Wow impressive video and woofer. Love your videos keep making them.
Love your reviews! Would love to see you review the 12" DS18 Hooligan X
I have a 4th order with the motors inside the sealed section. I put a temp sensor inside the pole vent and have it connected to a thermostat. When the temp gets too high it will make a buzzer start buzzing to let me know. I know it isn't actually getting the coil temp but it will still get hot in there when the coil gets hot. Thermostat is set to 150 degrees. Was nice to meet you and exchange demos at the Knoxville show yesterday also.
That thing is a beast man ....keep up the good work brother
Thanks! Will do!
Great stuff dude. Wish I had the engine on a 15💪
Keep up the good work 🎉Parker
Love the the temp radar sensors im gonna have to check those out
Yeah they are pretty cool!!
Thanks for the demo at showtime. Poor massive amp😂 glad Remy hooked it up for the rest of the show!
Yessir Remy is the man!!
when he poped the amp the "OH NOOOOOOOO" got me good 😂😂
Nicebone been waiting for this one and glad they using progressive spiders from now on. 🔊🔊😖 🔊🔊
Your vids are great do you have any playlists?
Could build an overlapping puzzle piece style baffle that you can slide together around the basket so it's the ultimate sleeper sub with that giant motor being hidden inside the box. Use a removable front baffle with t-nuts to seal the puzzle piece baffle to stop any leaks.
Speaker temps got up to 219 degrees. FYI...water BOILS at 212!!! 🤯🥵
If you wanna set it up properly you can make a top plate cut in half prop the sub up slide the two halves together then screw it down then put another top plate cut out to flush mount over the surround and screw it together.
Great 1 indeed
What a beast!!!
seem like it would be louder. Thank you for the video.
What should I get for my down firing sub box? JL audio 12” tw3 or 12” Sundown SLD??
Yo it read 9446 at the end crazy! 💯😎
I have a question if a dual 4 ohm sub read 2.9 DCR but 4 ohms nominal reading is it blown?
This would make a badass single sub setup in like a 4th order or t line
That first one was a great example of why i never understood people using their amp to blow subs on purpose, I'm not trying to test the short circuit protection on my amp
U should do review of mtx terminator's dual 12
insane!
Couldn't imagine that motor on an 18 or 15 inch basket....wow. Great video Parker.
15,18, and 21" we offer
Yessir I’ve seen them in 15s they are BEASTS!
@EagleTheBirdman ok wow, I'm currently running a nsv4 18 on a Taramps Smart 5k...
@ParkerTheBasshead oh I bet, that 12 is impressive 👏
@EagleTheBirdman what about soft parts for a zv5? I really thought about this like a months ago. Carbon fiber cone, Carbon fiber dust cap, brown progressive spider and 3 inch coil. Basically this sub soft parts but for a zv5 basket and motor. I have 2 zv5's that are due for a serious recone.
This EM Audio sub looks NUTS!!!!!
Crazy brother
I love deaf bonce i just got my 8 avatar 15s hooked up in my flat wall its smashin
What a beast of a Sub
I have 2 sdr 15's on rp2000.1d. They are in separate boxes and I'm looking for a dual 15 box. Everything I find is tuned to 39-41hz. Will those boxes still hit down to 25hz? I really don't want to build a box if I can help it and I'd like to stay below $200. Am I asking for too much or are there any good options?
That sub is a BEAST !!!
thts insane
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Parker The Basshead!!!!
Yoooo!
@@ParkerTheBasshead can you do Coca-Cola since it blew up the subwoofer last time
id be a real good test since you never played any low frequency song
What’s your opinion on the JL Audio 600/1v3
I would love to be able to rock 1 of those . Made in America is what I want .
💪🏼💪🏼
"Assembled"
Not bad, I’d expect a bit more but maybe due to the vehicle it could’ve gotten louder. In my sti hatch I do 143db at 28hz with a single skar EVL 10”
I’m really hoping to see the new DB 4512r on the channel soon! I’ve got my eyes on that beast as an upgrade from the sundown x12v3.
There just might be one sitting in my garage right now 🤫
@@ParkerTheBassheadnice I can't wait to see that beast hooked up and see what it scores
@@ParkerTheBasshead broooo hell yeah. Absolutely love the channel man. Doing the car audio community a huuuge service👍
150 pounds!! That motor is just crazy 💯👍
It’s insane, too heavy ha
Aye first comment! Love the videos bro, your definitely a inspiration to get up off my ass and build something loud 🫡
I appreciate it bro!
Heck yeah 👍 Go get loud brother 👍🔊🔊 Remember to get your electrical right and do your homework to keep everything solid and safe 👍👍
Very nice bro
Thanks man!!
put it in a solid 4th should sound wicked
I ended up getting an tsu 15 best purchase I’ve made
Wow just wow 👌 👏 😍
Only you can smoke an amp and sub, then still be stoked about the DB scores lol.
Hey do you have any playlists?
Yeehaw!
EMF... hmm... out of bizz nizz I heard 🤷 got EM audio now. Rock 🎸 on
Yeah we been around about 6 years now. All hand built from our 6.5-24"
@@EagleTheBirdman Very Nice 👌
Beast
Wonder what it would sound like in a solid 4th order box
Does having another person inside your truck increase spl score? They take up volume .
Put that in an infinite baffle build!
Hey an idea for a video. Settle the debate about distortion. Get a speaker rated say 1000rms. Test it to find its true maximum. Then compare "clean power" and distorted signals. See if the same amount of watts distorted actually damages the speaker compared to clean watts. Or whether distorted watts only damage because they are greater watts and not because they are distorted.
Man that sub is BEEF! Great video 🤙
All the BEEF!!
Patrick you need to sponsor Parker on a build of EM audio
Lol I would but I’m just a team member. I have no say so🤣 me and Parker are just good buddies who go back over the years.
Patrick just a team member lol
wire the coils in series and see what happens please . increases bl more windings in the gap.
Good content
I really appreciate it!!
Now you can show your sub getting hot, and how fast running 20hz at low volume cools down the coil.
Yessir!!
There is a guy here on youtube that has 4 FI subs on 2 16ks and he was hitting around 164 db on a burp and I think 159 on music. He bought 4 of the bass 8ks and his burp score went down because of the amp limiting power but his score on music went up by 2 db.
you can do 150's with a single 10's if you build the truck/box right
how does it sound on music?
Have you seen the new American bass king sub. Also good video
Yes! Not in person yet tho
Why don't they have a clamp on the spider? Hell, my Skar VXFs have spider clamps to hold them down
It's a nice subwoofer.
Would you be willing to do a b2 sub? Not a lot of videos on b2 audio
do they make a 15 in them like that🤔
Nice.
🔊🔊💪🏼💪🏼
Oly bajeebus that is a real-life monster.
2 vxf 12 doing 149 on music at 37Hz on 3500 and cost fraction of that sub 😂😂
Could you try some FI audio
How much box space is required for this sub? Could you run 2 in your truck?
2-2.25cu per sub
What glue does he use on the spiders? I need to rebuild a couple subs. Want to make sure I use the best possible options. Thank you. Keep bassin on!!!
Idk exactly but he sells it on his website
@@ParkerTheBasshead awesome thank you. Gotta get my Sundown Z18V3’s re coned. Slammin 🔊
Check my comment below. Has the link for the glue
Switch the meter to driver side dash, then open passenger door. Or flip port to passenger side, open drive side door, and meter on passenger windshield. I bet you'll gain 2-3 DBs.
Another great video 👍🏻
Thank you Nick!!
What app is that to play the hertz?
Ultimate car audio app
Great review. Beast of a sub and nice to look at. But I just can’t see it being worth $2000. MBE is hitting over 140 db on music with 8’s and half the power.
It is all in the box buddy. I’ve seen a single 12 do well over a 150. Lol
And we have a video of our 1k EM audio single 8 doing over a 153.
@@The_Crasher-xj4el The box is only part of it. To run just one of these monsters it also requires a ton of power (10k at least. )And a massive electrical upgrade. I’m not knocking anyone. If you like it I love it. I enjoyed the video. Personally I think there’s much better bang for this amount of buck.
@@TheGooch123 very much aware that it’s only a part of it. Electrical is also key. I’m currently prepping for a 2 15 blowthrough. Only going to be running 5500w or so of continuous wattage. I’ve done a JS 320, dual 1/0 alt runs to front battery, dual battery to frame grounds alternator to frame ground 1/0 engine to frame ground. All ofc. It’s in a single cab, so I’ve also done 2 oversized 1/0 power runs to rear and dual rear frame grounds. There is absolutely less expensive ways to do this, but it is awesome seeing a single 12 so large and taking such an insane amount of power. And for 8,000 watts you realistically only need 15ah of LTO (I’ll have 10) and a 320a alt or larger. If you wanted to stick with AGM it would take a lot of it but it could be done.
@@EagleTheBirdman on music?
That thang is 'tarded! Insane motor on that puppy.
As a European guy i’m soo jealous of the stuff you have there in the states…
Idk says this sub is nearly 2 grand. I think you could get louder with multiple subs from other companies. But if price doesnt matter... go for it!!
The entire point is to get the most out of the least for space saving options.
@@kingwillie206 You could get a really good sub half the price and save space still.
@@mattsnider5904 - This isn’t about really good subs. This is about the most extreme sub.
I have a psi platform 4 15 that ways 84 pounds I could imagine trying to mount this beast 😂😂😂😂
7K watts through 1 VOICE COIL 🤯🫨
Let's change your truck's enclosure to a blow-through so no cabin space is sacrificed in the name of BASS!
Crazy that a 2000wrms (soloX) sub was pretty much taking the same amount of power as that thing
Also when u going to test out the solo x
He dont have anymore power on tap to run lol
Wow
Please do American Bass Kings.
I’d like to! They are just so expensive but I’ll see what I can do
I knew the speaker had a lot more in it all it needed was a new spider
Just saying what did they do to that sub this time around.
Yet are the ones in production done to that level or not?
Oh course they are. This one has our own custom tooled progressive high xmax spider pack. The 1st one he tested was a off the shelf spider that we stacked and glued. The new Tan spider is a single pack. Wont come unglued now. And the epoxy we use (same as sundown) spider won't come up now lol
@@EagleTheBirdman Wow it sure took a pounding.
What is the real RMS rating and peak wattage of it?
I am sure someone can make an enclosure for that sub so that it doesn't have to be inverted.
@@scamchan they are rated for 8k rms. Peak is around 25k
Next vid - 6Th order bandpass 😮😮😮