the part where he starts to say everything he would be doing and should be doing was hilarious... "I probably should be standing." great review, im picking up my norden 901 this week. Cheers, from the USA.
The tourist pitch was spot on. Many of my favourite riding and driving roads are in the region. Luckily I live not too far away and get to visit fairly often. It’s even on route to the Alps so I get to enjoy good roads on the way to the mountains. 🙂
Lucky man, but don't tell the locals that these here hills aren't mountains, they'll be most upset. I've got so much more to explore in this region, I'm looking forward to having my own bike (very soon) rather than waiting form test bikes - more on that shortly.
Our pleasure Erwin, please keep tuning in because I'm going to start a new series of 'Great Biking Roads' where I share some of the amazing roads that I keep stumbling upon as we travel Europe looking for stories and bikes to test. I'm buying myself a bike so that I'm not reliant on test bikes, and as I happen upon a road worth making a visit to ride, I'll stop for a few days and make a video. It may not have the wide appeal of an actual bike test, but I think some of you might enjoy sharing the travel aspect of my job. It might bring a new audience to us as well, which would be nice to see.
@@IgnitionBikeShow This sounds like a great idea and I think you'd have a lot of interest in it. And I also echo Erwin's comments that the scenery/history/tourism is also a great addition to the storytelling of the bikes.
I genuinely enjoyed my bit of exploration which was unintentionally more adventurous than intended. Stress? What stress? The only stress was in my underpants. Thanks for watching!
niether one are available so it really doesn't matter get whats out there be happy and ride because no matter whats you're ridjng its the best bike on the planet
I agree completely with your views on the Auvergne. And just like the other mountain ranges that you mention, the Auvergne is even better for a summer bike tour because the temperatures don't get as crazy as they do at sea level. I'm just south of The Pyrenees, and I avoid riding during the middle of the day in summer, it just gets dangerously hot. By that, I mean that you get so hot, you end up not concentrating on the road conditions, just on getting out of the heat.
@@IgnitionBikeShow Agreed. Not sure I'd want your winters, though;). Even so, I could probably be persuaded to live where you are just because the summers would be so good. And that coming from someone who left the UK because of the pain to the old bod when the weather turns cold (too many bike accidents cause everything to ache in the cold and damp). But I do love living in Spain and want to get my Spanish citizenship sorted asap.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for the reminder. I've suddenly developed a nervous twitch in the corner of my eye at the thought of that never ending battle!
Dankie boet! I may be in France, but the idea is to keep travelling in search of interesting content - for both our South African TV audience and those of you who join us on You Tube.
To be fair, you'd be far more confident on the dirt roads if the bike wasn't fitted with street tyres. Even a set of Scorpion Rally St as fitted as standard to the Tenere 700 would have helped you destroy that climb.
I've been interested in the KTMs for quite a while, but never got along with the design. And aesthetics is important to me. So when KTM launched Husqvarna road bikes the problem was solved. My need for a big KTM thumper was happily satisfied by a 701 Svartpilen. For a second bike, I'd definitely get the Norden over the 890 Adventure. Thanks for a nice review :)
Thanks. A detailed assessment of the operation of the bike so it is down to the chassis, The recording is practical and true. I am not attracted though from the noise (older Vstrm).
great stuff matt, certainly got more interesting since you went to europe, can you do more on those guys who modify the guzzi`s, build the bmw scramblers and maybe airhead cafe racer scene.filming is also great, if its still your better half behind the camera her work is top notch, cheers.
My wife blushes and says thank you, and as for riding some of the custom creations I'll definitely work on it. It's sometimes difficult given the rarity and cost of each of those bikes, and the fact that I'm unknown to most of them, but I'll keep trying. I do have an open invitation with Radical Guzzi, a fantastic family operation, genuinely lovely people and I'm heading that way this summer (I owe him some beers!) so maybe I'll film a couple of his bikes.
Yeah, I think this is it for me. A place to call home until the final chequered flag. Not too bad as a starting point for travelling the rest of Europe either. And my South African wife loves the town, the region, and the lifestyle, and you know how important is a happy wife...
I can’t tell you how in-depth and amazing this channel’s videos are. I simply a fan of KTM I’d take KTM all day everyday. Question is would it be reliable as a long term bike?
@@angryuser0 i had that issue , and other issues that were also related to excess heat , on my 2017 1090r i replaced with this bike so i ordered the solution to it before the snow even melted and i could pick up the bike , its all done with those mods and the first service i actually just got the call an hour or so ago going to get it tomorrow am
Very kind comment Ozem, it looks like our passion for bikes is coming through, and that's all we can ask for, really. I'd say yes, the KTM will do you proud, but we do get more comments regarding KTM reliability issues than any other manufacturer on this channel. I know, via friends and acquaintances and professional relationships many, many KTM owners in South Africa - where the bikes tend to get a hard life - and I'd have to say that the overall feedback is extremely positive. Are they perfect? No. Perhaps more importantly, should anything go wrong, is the back-up service from dealers good? The answer there (at least in SA) seems to be a resounding 'Yes'.
Do you mean on as a bike? Or drugs? Or ... Or just not good? Or good? Careful now Flat Cap, the camera'man' is my wife who'd never even used her phone's camera until 2 years ago! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
@@IgnitionBikeShow I just wondering how you got those very lovely off the bike shots. The on bike pictures were very nice too, tell your wife she is doing great 👍
Great review Mat, nice bike if a little expensive! However, I have never considered the Auvergne region until I watched this, I live down near the Pyrenees which is also stunning, but I will definitely have a ride up there soon!
Can anyone assist me with information about temporary importation of motorcycles from South Africa to Europe? We would like to do some touring in Europe but would like to take our own bikes if possible.
I test rode this bike 2 days ago. The screen is shite which can be addressed. My biggest worry is heat soak particularly on the Left side on my shin. Can anyone offer me a solution as I would like to purchase one.
I have a Norden and came from an 890 Duke. The Duke had very minor heat only on right foot and I find the Norden throws heat on left leg. under mid 80's its ok getting into the 90's its fn hot especially in jeans. sorry I do not se a solution for it.
All these Norden press bikes are just fine… the issues start for people actually buying them… it’s the ‘790’s Cancer’ latest incarnation Lemon laws are the saviors in this case
@@TheWfurst ..No news on the 701 yet. I think they have ceased its production and a New one will be rolled out soon with Duke 890 Internals. KTM is also testing a new 990 Duke R with around 140 - 150 bhp ..😍🥰
Damn, I grew up with Bill Oddie and the Goodies. Do I really sound like him? Might have to start smoking again, or something - change the tone of my voice; go for the Lee Marvin gravelly effect!
Nah, not too small - depending on the type of adventure. We're about to launch a new bike rental business in South Africa for affordable, non-intimidating adventure biking across the whole of Southern Africa with a 200cc adventure bike. We've already had several 'trail' customers do 15,000km or so, with no off-road experience, and they've loved the adventure. Sometimes smaller really is better. More news coming soon...
Local dealers in Western Canada have ZERO bikes for sale!!!! The local KTM dealer has not had a new bike for over a year now...How on earth these companies are making any money on sales is beyond me!!!!!
A year sounds like a long time to be out of stock! I've been trying to buy a particular, popular Japanese bike here in France for several months and only just succeeded. There's definitely problems in the production and supply of new models across the board at the moment. But a year! Yeah, if it also supplies spares on a similar timescale you might be wise to look elsewhere!
the part where he starts to say everything he would be doing and should be doing was hilarious... "I probably should be standing."
great review, im picking up my norden 901 this week. Cheers, from the USA.
Looking back at old videos, I miss this chap such an excellent journalist great to watch and listen to .
Rip brother 😢
Thanks from all of us that watch you on TH-cam for the extended version, please always make more when you can... cheers!
We will do so, Sahel, and thanks so much for taking the time to watch.
The tourist pitch was spot on. Many of my favourite riding and driving roads are in the region. Luckily I live not too far away and get to visit fairly often. It’s even on route to the Alps so I get to enjoy good roads on the way to the mountains. 🙂
Lucky man, but don't tell the locals that these here hills aren't mountains, they'll be most upset. I've got so much more to explore in this region, I'm looking forward to having my own bike (very soon) rather than waiting form test bikes - more on that shortly.
Was more impressed by the nice story filming, once again. Beautiful country it is, France! Thanks 4 taking us around Matt!
Our pleasure Erwin, please keep tuning in because I'm going to start a new series of 'Great Biking Roads' where I share some of the amazing roads that I keep stumbling upon as we travel Europe looking for stories and bikes to test. I'm buying myself a bike so that I'm not reliant on test bikes, and as I happen upon a road worth making a visit to ride, I'll stop for a few days and make a video.
It may not have the wide appeal of an actual bike test, but I think some of you might enjoy sharing the travel aspect of my job. It might bring a new audience to us as well, which would be nice to see.
@@IgnitionBikeShow This sounds like a great idea and I think you'd have a lot of interest in it. And I also echo Erwin's comments that the scenery/history/tourism is also a great addition to the storytelling of the bikes.
Brilliant vid! Loved the off road bit and the stress in your voice!
I genuinely enjoyed my bit of exploration which was unintentionally more adventurous than intended. Stress? What stress? The only stress was in my underpants. Thanks for watching!
niether one are available so it really doesn't matter get whats out there be happy and ride because no matter whats you're ridjng its the best bike on the planet
Never a truer word spoken.
I agree completely with your views on the Auvergne. And just like the other mountain ranges that you mention, the Auvergne is even better for a summer bike tour because the temperatures don't get as crazy as they do at sea level. I'm just south of The Pyrenees, and I avoid riding during the middle of the day in summer, it just gets dangerously hot. By that, I mean that you get so hot, you end up not concentrating on the road conditions, just on getting out of the heat.
Agree with everything you say David, we are undoubtedly absurdly lucky people.
@@IgnitionBikeShow Agreed. Not sure I'd want your winters, though;).
Even so, I could probably be persuaded to live where you are just because the summers would be so good. And that coming from someone who left the UK because of the pain to the old bod when the weather turns cold (too many bike accidents cause everything to ache in the cold and damp).
But I do love living in Spain and want to get my Spanish citizenship sorted asap.
Thanks Matt, loving your show. Beautiful countryside and I really appreciate the fact that I didn't see one taxi 😁
Thanks for watching, and thanks for the reminder. I've suddenly developed a nervous twitch in the corner of my eye at the thought of that never ending battle!
Well done Sir! Thank you.
Love the content. Keep it up. SA for the win🇿🇦
He's in France though !!!!!
Dankie boet! I may be in France, but the idea is to keep travelling in search of interesting content - for both our South African TV audience and those of you who join us on You Tube.
To be fair, you'd be far more confident on the dirt roads if the bike wasn't fitted with street tyres. Even a set of Scorpion Rally St as fitted as standard to the Tenere 700 would have helped you destroy that climb.
I've been interested in the KTMs for quite a while, but never got along with the design. And aesthetics is important to me. So when KTM launched Husqvarna road bikes the problem was solved. My need for a big KTM thumper was happily satisfied by a 701 Svartpilen. For a second bike, I'd definitely get the Norden over the 890 Adventure.
Thanks for a nice review :)
Thanks. A detailed assessment of the operation of the bike so it is down to the chassis, The recording is practical and true. I am not attracted though from the noise (older Vstrm).
great stuff matt, certainly got more interesting since you went to europe, can you do more on those guys who modify the guzzi`s, build the bmw scramblers and maybe airhead cafe racer scene.filming is also great, if its still your better half behind the camera her work is top notch, cheers.
My wife blushes and says thank you, and as for riding some of the custom creations I'll definitely work on it. It's sometimes difficult given the rarity and cost of each of those bikes, and the fact that I'm unknown to most of them, but I'll keep trying. I do have an open invitation with Radical Guzzi, a fantastic family operation, genuinely lovely people and I'm heading that way this summer (I owe him some beers!) so maybe I'll film a couple of his bikes.
Liked your views on France I've done the camping with my boys in this region years ago, your correct it's a lovely part of the world
Yeah, I think this is it for me. A place to call home until the final chequered flag. Not too bad as a starting point for travelling the rest of Europe either. And my South African wife loves the town, the region, and the lifestyle, and you know how important is a happy wife...
Very nice places and roads, also your review. I would like some more information about the Southern part of France…
I can’t tell you how in-depth and amazing this channel’s videos are. I simply a fan of KTM I’d take KTM all day everyday. Question is would it be reliable as a long term bike?
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🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 just swapped my 1090r for a Norden
@@justsomedude445 the KTM version has an issue with the exhaust cooking the rear shock and they still haven't fixed that so look out for that
@@angryuser0 i had that issue , and other issues that were also related to excess heat , on my 2017 1090r i replaced with this bike so i ordered the solution to it before the snow even melted and i could pick up the bike , its all done with those mods and the first service i actually just got the call an hour or so ago going to get it tomorrow am
Very kind comment Ozem, it looks like our passion for bikes is coming through, and that's all we can ask for, really. I'd say yes, the KTM will do you proud, but we do get more comments regarding KTM reliability issues than any other manufacturer on this channel. I know, via friends and acquaintances and professional relationships many, many KTM owners in South Africa - where the bikes tend to get a hard life - and I'd have to say that the overall feedback is extremely positive.
Are they perfect? No. Perhaps more importantly, should anything go wrong, is the back-up service from dealers good? The answer there (at least in SA) seems to be a resounding 'Yes'.
What was your camera man on? The bike looks like a good one and thanks for a nice ride and insights on the Norden.
Do you mean on as a bike? Or drugs? Or ... Or just not good? Or good? Careful now Flat Cap, the camera'man' is my wife who'd never even used her phone's camera until 2 years ago! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
@@IgnitionBikeShow I just wondering how you got those very lovely off the bike shots. The on bike pictures were very nice too, tell your wife she is doing great 👍
Great review as always , nice one Matt 👍
Thanks Paul for wasting some of your valuable time on our rubbish!
Thank you Matt, great and funny review, appreciated! perhaps the GS range is not so bad after all😂😉 cheers from Still Bay!
Thanks again Regis for wasting part of your day watching our rubbish. Glad you're entertained (by my fear and ineptitude!)
There’s option for shortcut buttons 😊 and explorer mode number 4, for extra 100€
Great review Mat, nice bike if a little expensive! However, I have never considered the Auvergne region until I watched this, I live down near the Pyrenees which is also stunning, but I will definitely have a ride up there soon!
Can anyone assist me with information about temporary importation of motorcycles from South Africa to Europe? We would like to do some touring in Europe but would like to take our own bikes if possible.
Great vid 👍
Thanks for taking the time to watch
Fab review, really enjoyed it 😁
Thank you muchly Adrian for taking the time to watch it.
I test rode this bike 2 days ago. The screen is shite which can be addressed. My biggest worry is heat soak particularly on the Left side on my shin. Can anyone offer me a solution as I would like to purchase one.
I have a Norden and came from an 890 Duke. The Duke had very minor heat only on right foot and I find the Norden throws heat on left leg. under mid 80's its ok getting into the 90's its fn hot especially in jeans. sorry I do not se a solution for it.
All these Norden press bikes are just fine… the issues start for people actually buying them… it’s the ‘790’s Cancer’ latest incarnation
Lemon laws are the saviors in this case
Thanks for a great review but you only convinced me to go to the Auvergne, but not to ditch my beloved bike.
You won't regret the visit, a truly wonderful part of the world for biking. Maybe see you out on the road one day!
Thanks.
Pleasure, and thank you for watching.
Any idea whether Husqvarna will reintroduce the Vitpilen and Svartpilen???
I loved the design... but the list of reliability complaints were endless.
Husky is testing A Vitpilen 901..🥳🥳
@@abymathew295 nice! Hope this one works better. No news on a 701?
@@TheWfurst ..No news on the 701 yet. I think they have ceased its production and a New one will be rolled out soon with Duke 890 Internals. KTM is also testing a new 990 Duke R with around 140 - 150 bhp ..😍🥰
@@abymathew295 hoping for a new 701...
Bill Oddie is narrating this, am I correct?
Damn, I grew up with Bill Oddie and the Goodies. Do I really sound like him? Might have to start smoking again, or something - change the tone of my voice; go for the Lee Marvin gravelly effect!
@@IgnitionBikeShow Hahaha, yes, you do a little, but I didn’t mean to be rude, was just having a little giggle at the similarity!
Can't hear you very well on my phone speaker but good stuff.
Pardon? Treat yourself to some headphones, then you'll hear how bad we are at mixing the sound!
Sorry, I like the KTM looks more. Takes all kinds, right? Have you thought of the 390? Too small?
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Nah, not too small - depending on the type of adventure. We're about to launch a new bike rental business in South Africa for affordable, non-intimidating adventure biking across the whole of Southern Africa with a 200cc adventure bike. We've already had several 'trail' customers do 15,000km or so, with no off-road experience, and they've loved the adventure.
Sometimes smaller really is better. More news coming soon...
It's an adventure bike that can tour not a touring bike.
If money is tight, don't buy a "ready to race to the parts department" KTM.
Sounds like a bad orange experience in your biking life angry user?
Local dealers in Western Canada have ZERO bikes for sale!!!! The local KTM dealer has not had a new bike for over a year now...How on earth these companies are making any money on sales is beyond me!!!!!
A year sounds like a long time to be out of stock! I've been trying to buy a particular, popular Japanese bike here in France for several months and only just succeeded. There's definitely problems in the production and supply of new models across the board at the moment. But a year! Yeah, if it also supplies spares on a similar timescale you might be wise to look elsewhere!
Nice, but at $27000NZ it may take a few years yo get my hands on one.
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better than 890 ADV
shitter than 890 ADV R